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All right, it is now 4:00 p.m. We'll start the meeting of the Board of Water Commissioners for the Town of Kingston. We have signed the bills. We have minutes from July 7th to approve. Now, I need a motion to approve those minutes. >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of July 7th. >> Second.

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>> Thank you. So voted. Uh Kristen, you're up. >> Okay. Um the quick update on the South Street well cleaning, that work is still planned to occur during the fall. Um so, we'll just keep that on the the list.

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Just um and touch base with Mar Services once we get closer to that time when the work will be happening to coordinate with them. The new well project, Chris and I met with Kleinfelder this afternoon to get

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an update from them on the status. Um so, run through some of those items. Uh they are finishing up their work on the pump test report and the DEP WS 19 permit

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application. They plan to have a draft report for our review by August 5th, which is next Wednesday. And then they're requesting return of comments on that by August 14th so that they can get it finalized and submitted

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to MassDEP. They did mention that the um review time for MassDEP for that permit is 144 calendar days. Um so, it's just something to keep in mind. We We talked about that before

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with regards to the overall schedule and the permit time frame being long for new sources. So, that's one of those steps. Um they also provided the 75% design

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drawings and specifications for the the pump station in the well construction. Um I'm currently reviewing those documents. My goal is to have comments back to Client Folder by August 14th.

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Um we might be able to get drawing comments back to them sooner than that, but some of the comments are going to be things that need to be coordinated with the water department. Um so in light of Chris's news

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we'll need to have a point person for me to talk to about those items to discuss. So it's just something that to keep in mind once we get to that point in the um the agenda of the meeting. Um

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The current design still includes the restroom that we talked about before being a plan plumbing code mandatory item. Um They've mentioned that there's been some movement and wiggle room on others getting

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the restroom requirement waived for groundwater supplies when the building is below a certain certain square foot square footage. It's a process that still needs to get submitted to request a plumbing code

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variance to remove the restroom requirement. Um so they are identifying the process that is required to make that request and figure out who's the entity that um makes the final decision

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and gives the waiver. So um that'd be great. For now like it it's in the plans if it can be removed and just made into a storage room. Yeah, that's great. It provides more groundwater

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protection not to have a restroom out there right at the pump station. >> Would that be a local Board of Health or would that be something would be strictly DEP? >> Uh it's not DEP at all. Up till now it's been the plumbing board, the

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Massachusetts plumbing board, that's been making those determinations. So, the the local plumbing inspector up till now has not had the authority to waive the restroom requirement. It's been the Massachusetts state plumbing

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board. So, unless the plumbing board that and like I said, there's been some movement because there's been so much pushback from Mass Water Works and other water suppliers, you know, and they've been getting more individual requests from from different projects saying,

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you know, that think they're getting a lot of those request individual requests to remove it from being a requirement because of the potential, you know, contamination impacts. Um so, maybe they will delegate the final

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decision to the town plumbing inspector, but until the state plumbing board makes that determination, it's not the plumbing local plumbing inspector's call. >> Might be better off that way anyway, but that's all right. >> The the Kleinfelder's also working on

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other permit applications. We just talked about the Mass DEP WS19 permit. That's the pump test report and the zone two map. Um they have already submitted the environmental notification form and that

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got posted to the environmental monitor. There is going to be a ENF virtual public meeting on August 5th at 9:30 a.m. Um Kleinfelder's going to attend that meeting and

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then comments are expected to be or required to be submitted by other agencies or the public by August 21st. Um based on what those comments are,

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then um MEPA will make a determination as to whether um no further action's needed or if an environmental impact report is required. And they've been saying Kleinfelder's been saying that there would be nothing that would trigger having to do an

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environmental impact report, but until we get that official word from uh the agencies, that's to be determined. >> Kirsten, is that meeting specific to our project alone or does that include other towns with similar

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projects? >> Um it's I believe it's just your project um because it was a date that Kirsten worked out with the MEPA people. >> Okay. Is that something that I could like listen in on? I'm just curious.

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>> Yes, yep, it's a public meeting, so I will ask them to give you a link. I have a conflict with attending it myself. Uh but we're Kleinfelder's going to be there and they're the designer on the project. They can fill us in on whatever comes up. Um

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Yeah, I'll I'll ask them to send you the link though so you can join the meeting and just you know, be able to listen and hear firsthand. Um they're also working on the Conservation Commission permit submittal that will have to go in. They're going

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to hold off on actually submitting anything until they get the comments back from us on the 75% design just in case any tweaks have to be made. Um but they are also concurrently going to send a letter to the

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conservation agent regarding getting a conservation easement for the portion of the zone one that is on town-owned land, but it's the conservation land. Um so they that is also happening.

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Um the other item for this project is the construction phase funding appropriation and pulling together an article with a construction cost estimate for that meeting. Um so I asked Kleinfelder to take a look at construction phase

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engineering budgeting. Um with the 75% they gave us a construction cost estimate. Um so I want to take a a look through that and we'll have to have that number, Kleinfelder's construction phase engineering budget, and then the OPM

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budget for that fall article appropriation number. Um is What is the deadline for getting a budget into that meeting? >> Probably going to be early September would be my guess.

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>> And you probably can get the article written and you know, we'll have a placeholder. >> And a placeholder. And a placeholder. And then get a you know, amount to add to it, you know, somewhere shortly after that.

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>> I I can confirm with someone up in the Select Board tomorrow, Kristen, and get back to you on that. >> That'd be great. Yeah. I think we should be able to have a number to discuss at the next Water Commission meeting. And then but there might be some questions and

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um but I you know, I would the goal would be to get it all sorted out by the end of August. Just wanted to make sure that that was still adequate. >> It gives us time. >> Okay.

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Um all right, and then um the un of kind of water water compliance plan, um we did receive the findings of the M-36 water audit from MassDEP's consultant, Tighe & Bond. So, we'll be able to pull

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together that un of kind of water compliance plan. That was a little bit of a revised date once the ACO was um finalized with

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updated deadlines. We have a little bit more time to get that done. I believe it's the end of the calendar year. Um but, we'll be able to do it more quickly than that and get that done over the next um couple months.

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And that is what I have. >> Thank you, Kristen. >> Thanks, [clears throat] Kristen. >> Yeah, before Kristen's update, I want to thank you, Chris, for your years of service. Um I'm going to give these guys a chance to chime in as well. Really appreciate all the time and effort you've put in over these past few years.

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Um you guys want to >> Yeah, I think you you presented yourself well in many ca- many cases in town. Early in your employment area, I remember there was an accident in front of the post office, and you jumped right in without having anybody to have to

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tell you to do it. So, I appreciate your um of ability to step up. >> Thank you. >> It's been a long road. You know, there's been some bumps and some curves and you know, all I can do is wish you well in the future. You've done what you've been

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able to do here, not always in agreement with some of the votes, but not all of us were always in agreement, but you know, you've been a man of your word, you've kept your word as far as I'm concerned and you know, I wish you the best as you move forward.

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And the department's going to lose a lot of knowledge. Uh but with knowledge comes the ability to expand and move on. So, good luck. >> I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. With that, I think I'm We move to

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accept. We need a vote on this? Or is that just We just acknowledge it? >> I think you just say acknowledge. >> Okay. Thank you. I will see you after Christmas. Uh the guys have been doing a great job out there with hydrant and maintenance. You know, we're particularly in the Main Street corridor, there was kind of a big

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push to get that done for the Kingston 300th parade on that parade route. They had to make it look good for >> I saw them painting last week. >> Yeah. So, it was a a big push to make it look good for the residents and and the like, you know, represent the department as best as we could with you know, showing we take pride in what we do.

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Uh the opportunity came up through one of the vendors we deal with to attend the Plymouth County Water Works uh show and event with free classes offered for the guys who obtain uh training contact hours

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to renew their licenses. So, you know, I encouraged them all to go. They all went. They all took classes and had a good a good day out, you know, with each other and I kind of held down the fort from where they went out and you know, they had a had a had a good day to interact and mingle and meet with other vendors in our

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community. >> Water Works used to do this more often. Used to be yearly, I think. >> Well, this is this is the Plymouth County water works. >> Okay. Yeah, so they they did away with it for quite a bit of time during COVID. And it's slowly come back and it has it come back to

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its glory that it it once was. I mean, it used to be quite an event and each year it gets a a little bit you know, bigger, but you know, COVID I think you know, knocked down a lot of things. Uh so, that was good for the guys to get

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out and spend some camaraderie time, you know, and and work together and attend some classes and get something out of it. So, it was good for them. The uh pump operator position has been posted. Uh there was internally and externally there were no applicants

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received or qualified applicants. There were two applicants received with no qualifying licenses. So, now the position is >> in inside or outside applicants? >> Outside applicants. Uh with no with no qualifications. So, now the position has been

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uh posted as a water repairman. Uh >> Is that internally first or is that internally and >> Yes, they can do internally and externally, but I we can't look at anything external until the time has elapsed for the internal time. So, for the beginning >> That hasn't been posted yet, but it will

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be. Back to the labor, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Want to try to post it immediately in the water works or any of those sites? >> Yeah, we've looking to post it on Mass Municipal and water works. >> I asked for pump operator. You didn't want to try to post >> We have to We We posted on Mass Water

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Works, didn't we? >> Not this time we didn't, no. >> Oh, I thought >> before we go to the lower position. >> Yeah, we want to try that route first to see if we get any qualified applicants right now. >> Okay. >> I don't I'm talking to them one of the vendors who's out doing meter calibrations. He says every every town

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and every department is really struggling for operators. I mean, the turnover rate right now is he says unbelievably. He says he, you know, six every six months they lose an operators. Um it's real tough. They're all going to private sectors. >> [snorts] >> So, um

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That's all right. There's one other thing that I wanted to take and add on the other a concern that I kind of thought about more when I was on vacation uh with the Miramar um sewage agreement that the sewer department has. And I kind of bounced it

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off of Kristen, a concern that I had about interbasin transfer from Duxbury's aquifer with discharge or recharge through leaching fields into our aquifer and any potential contaminants. You know, the Duxbury's um contending with PFAS right now. You

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know, and they don't have any PFAS removal, so that's going to >> to be in their sewage >> [cough] >> stuff, too. [clears throat] >> Well, it's all their water. So, it's just things that I want to go on the record as being noted that I think it's something that you should be concerned about as far as that water quality from their wastewater goes and any potential other contaminants that go

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from that. Uh I think it's important that be noted. >> Is there anything that you have on that, Kristen, at all? Is that a concern, do you think, or the amounts that are in there? Is that something you can't speak to? >> yeah, I mean, I don't know how much they

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have, what the loading rate would end up being. Uh but it's certainly introducing something, you know, to date you've been fortunate with having water that's been below detection or just right at the

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detection point. Um so, to have more PFAS continue, you know, coming into your water supply could change that. Um but is it enough to make a measurable impact? I do not know.

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>> Mhm. I think it raises a very interesting question. It's nice to know that the sewer commission can uh receive uh substantial amounts of money by taking the Miramar uh wastewater.

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But, to base accepting that wastewater on strictly a financial betterment for the sewer commission may be detrimental to, you know, the town of Kingston. And while, you know,

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Kingston Bay and Duxbury Bay and Plymouth Bay are all the same, you know, Atlantic Ocean, um Duxbury is is very clearly not paying any attention to PFAS as far as new developments are they concerned. And

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just to accept something like this without a great deal of technical expertise on how that's handled and whether or not, you know, PFAS coming into wastewater being, you know, uh transferred to our

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uh >> Is it >> treatment facility and and then close it down to, uh, IE shifts, uh, may not be in the best long-term interest, you know. >> Is that something we can ask the sewer department to kind of address? Is that what you're concerned about?

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>> I would hope that the sewer commission would be looking at, but from what I understand, they're only looking at dollars and cents. They don't care about what comes out of the pipe. >> I think I still, uh, say they don't care about Maybe they haven't gotten to that point where they've

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done due diligence on it, but to say they don't care is not not there. >> Well, let me give you a surprise. >> All I hear is dollar amounts. It's not telling me that they're really not looking at potential impacts on, you know, IE shifts. >> I'll I'll send something out to the the

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sewer commission ask them to answer our our concerns about that and let them uh >> [snorts] >> spend the engineering to figure out if it's an issue or not. I mean, it's probably so dilute by the time there's only the certain wells they have and and that's diluted by once the other water they have. And then as it kind of goes

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in it's going to take a long time to kind of eventually enter the water table. Imagine we have years of time >> they need a comprehensive study to see what what what what happens. >> that's what that's coming in what's what's in that. It'd be nice

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[clears throat] to know what's coming in and they you know if they can do some testing we have testing done done by you know >> And what kind of issues that can create [clears throat] for us so they need to be investigated. >> Is that something I should just email them myself or is that something we want to have letter on letterhead Stacy?

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>> Should be on letterhead. >> Yeah, I mean I think um you tell me what you want to write. I mean >> Yeah, I'll email you later. Yeah, I'm okay. >> It's important that we keep track of all the correspondence as it goes forward.

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>> Yeah. I'm good. Yeah, so just in closing I want to thank you know the water department for my opportunities that I was given and afforded here and you know I made a lot of great friends, a lot of great relationships, learned a lot you know and you know

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is mistakes and is education and you know I'm going to miss the people that I work with. I really enjoyed working in town. Kingston's my jam. It's born and raised here. It's where I am and um the stresses and the um issues right now which is taking too

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much of a mental toll on me and my mental and physical being that I'm carrying home and it's not fair to my family and it's time for me to move on so >> I think it's hard to be a superintendent in the time you live in because if you're at the grocery store, you go to the pharmacy, you run into people all the time.

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And you don't get to ever really let your hair down because it's you're you're surrounded by the people that you're serving so I I get that. >> Yeah. I just got to be time for me to move on so >> Do you want to take part in the discussion or do you want to jump ahead

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to the RFP discussion first? Your feeling. >> Do whatever you want. >> I'd say let's if I would love to have your input on things. But if you Let's just go ahead.

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So we skipped now to new business. I reached out to to Matt Darche and he is available to come in on an interim basis and can discuss a little bit more about what that interim time period is going to look like.

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You know things I think I get him. He is acceptable with the current salary position at Chris's rate. The question I want to have from discussion on this is

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how long do we need for search process and onboarding stuff. And that sort of things. >> I My opinion >> Mhm. >> is that if we're bringing Matt Darche on as an interim superintendent, we don't

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put an ending date on it because we don't know how long it's going to take to one advertise and then to find the person that's going to meet the requirements that we write as far as the superintendent's job description. I think we need to one

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quickly bring on an interim superintendent. >> Yeah. >> And sort of if we can do it, sort of leave it open-ended until we can find a new applicant that meets the needs of the town and then can be

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brought on long enough and would match expertise, be able to provide some additional training so that we're not just, you know, one walking in the door and one walking out the door. That doesn't help the department at all. Probably When you

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to Matt, did he give you a any time? >> Yeah, I mean, at least two to three months. Um he seemed to open for longer, but he does have some limitations with, you know, uh pension sort of stuff like that. So, we'd have to really kind of look at the timeline for

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that. My thought on this was to choose, you know, a certain length of time. I'm thinking of even, you know, depending on what Tina's saying, um whatever our our our liberal estimate for what it would take for that, and then maybe put some language in whatever as an extension uh

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allowable to both sides. Um and that would handle because he has a some voice in this, too, for >> Oh, absolutely. And and what I'm All I'm saying is I don't think we should arbitrarily come up with a 30-day, 60-day, or 180-day. What I'm saying

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leave it >> Mhm. >> loose enough that it serves the department's and purposes, serves the town's purposes in its broadest, you know, uh spectrum. >> Does that work in your world, Tina?

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>> Yeah, I think um like I said before, it's kind of on him to make sure any of the pension-related stuff, he's got to, you know, be on top of that. Um and this would be an employment contract, right? Like he's not set up as a vendor in any way, right? Like he doesn't have his own little business on the side or anything

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that we could just get billed. >> [laughter] >> Cuz that would be so much easier. But, um yeah, I think if we, you know, I would probably start at a four-month because one of the questions I have for you guys is do we want him to be part of the

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recruitment process? And I say that because if you three or one of you three are part of it, you know, there's things we have to kind of abide by. Um my initial thought was, you know, if you want to

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A- again, this I'm just speaking now, you guys can discuss, but, you know, if we want Matt to be part of the recruitment, maybe also have Stacy be part of the recruitment, and then the three of us, me, the two of them, um, go through the applicants, kind of come up with who we think is the right

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people to at least bring in for a first interview, which would be with the three of us. And then from that, we could present the other people, like the top two or top three to the three of you, because that's when those interviews become public, names get put on agendas,

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they're televised, those types of things. The alternative to that is, um, you know, the two of you, or the three of you can vote on one of the members to be part of that group. Um,

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in which case, the same thing would happen, but there'd at least be, uh, board involvement early on in the stages. So, that's an idea on the recruitment side. Um, so, I would say back to how long Matt's, uh, contract, at least initial contract

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should be, I think starting at four months makes sense. You know, we're probably looking at, you know, at least a month and a half of just advertising it. And then, um, you know, there's this there's other hoops to jump through as related to like

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wage and personnel if needed and things like that, so. And then we want him to help train the next person, so. >> Yeah. All right. >> The other question I've got, you know, would it be appropriate for the three of us together with you and Stacy to look what the job description is and what the

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requirements are? And then, then maybe, you know, bring it back down to, you know, only one member of the commission, uh, yourself and Stacy and Matt, because Matt, you know, got a tremendous experience in the department, he knows what the department is, he knows where

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it was, so it would still give, you know, a a core group that could look at it, but at least giving us a chance to look at what the job specs are and maybe each one of us, you know, pulling that together.

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>> Yeah, so um I had provided the job description in last week before, I can't remember. Um with that that kind of directive, you know, so the idea being I think independently, again, because if you do it together, it's a meeting, but I think independently, if

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the three of you were to redline what you think um the changes can be, should be, what have you, >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> then we kind of and and send them to me, then I collectively put it together, and then ultimately you guys vote on what that job description looks like at the end of the day.

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Keeping in mind if there's substantial changes, then regional personnel may need to get involved. Um but if not, then it's really just cleaning it up to say, you know, what's changed since Chris took the position, the last time it was posted. I don't know if there's new regs or different things like that.

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Um and then that that of course will be our our starting point as to when can we post this and what does it look like. >> One of the things I was hoping to do, um I'm going to be gone on our next meeting on the 11th, um I was hoping maybe we could actually meet next Tuesday

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instead, and that might be give us some time to kind of get the job description ready to go and then be able to review it in an open session and then get that posted as soon as possible. Um I don't know what you guys are >> I'm most good with that. That's >> Are you good with >> That's the fourth. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah, I can say that a bit, but as long as long as it's before 6:30 on the fourth, that's fine, right? >> [laughter] >> 6:00 actually. >> So, um so like I said, what I what I would recommend is you in the the three

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of you individually look at it, make your redline changes, send them to me, so that by the fourth I can present you with this is the collective changes. >> Yep. >> Stacy, you're on top of it. >> Yeah, I'll bring it up. >> Okay. >> And then you can you can just email it I'll take an email it'll be fine.

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>> One question I have and it's sort of an awkward one is but since we rely on Kristen so extensively as far as engineering is concerned, would it be appropriate to have her adjust look at it not be part of the

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description? >> Mhm. >> The description not be part of the selection process but have her look at it from >> It's a great idea. It makes sense cuz then I know what it is and I can change it. >> Yeah. You want >> That's a really good idea. >> Would you be comfortable sending us if we sent you that Kristen? Is that

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something that you're okay with? >> Uh sure. >> Sure thing. Thank you. >> Yep, I can read it over. >> Anything for billable hours. >> [laughter] >> Right. >> All right. All right. Um so I guess uh the question's going to be

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Tina if we um is this something that you and I need to talk about tomorrow then to kind of put something together to send to uh Mr. Darsh? Or how would we uh do I ask him or where does it come from? Like >> So, I think if you go back to him and

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say, well, I don't know what kind of votes need to happen or not but um for today's meeting but whatever that comes out to be, I think if you went back to Matt and said, "Okay, I met with the board. We're looking at an initial four months, you know, this is the salary.

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Here you have to also be thinking about what do we want him to get done? Like okay, we talked a little bit about the recruitment. I don't know if there's other projects on the horizons that he he on the horizon he needs to be on top of other than everyday stuff. Um certain reporting like all those

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things I think you should put as objectives of the of the contract. Um >> boarding uh the new the new person. Okay. Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And then but and then you speak with him about all that, right? And he's like,

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"Yeah, sure, that's great." And then we'll >> [clears throat] >> we'll get legal involved to draw up the the contract. >> Okay. And having him come in as early as Monday before all that process is that process going to be finished? >> Likely not. I mean, you have to speak

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with him. Uh you have to speak with him and then they have to put the they I mean I think what you can do is if you the three of you right now talk about like here's the things we want done in the four month time at least because you know what's on the horizon.

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Talk about that now and vote on it now and then give you the authority have the other two give you the authority to talk to Matt about it and work with Matt on closing that contract. Then we guys don't have to come back to reread the contract, okay? Um

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So I think if we can get all that part done and if we can get the shell of it to legal space Tuesday, if we can get the shell of it to legal by Thursday, they might have something they could have ready for Monday. >> Okay. >> Okay, then I move that we engage Matt

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Dash as a interim superintendent for the period of time that we need him. >> But including offering asking if assistance in the recruitment of a new superintendent and onboarding of that individual.

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Is that been a second of that motion? >> Second, beginning as soon as m- next Monday. >> As soon as possible. >> I again, but think about I don't know if there's things in the horizon that the department, you know, if Chris was here, he would have been doing it. So are there certain guidelines that he Matt

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needs to walk in going like, "Oh, there's a huge report." I don't know. So >> The town hall meeting is going to be a big thing, I think. Um >> Yeah, and the comments on the pump station design. >> Right. Yeah. >> keep that moving. And then there's whatever's ongoing with

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the consent order, so the leak detection. >> Does that all need to be listed out or does that just fall under the regular uh >> If If they're If they're regular things, then no. You know, you'll provide him with the job description to say this is what we're expecting you to do in 4

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months. But if these are like one-offs, then yeah. The other thing is um his involvement with the recruitment of the pump operator or if it ends up being the repair the repair person. Or do you not want him to be part of that, you know? >> Oh,

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I think it I think the more help we can get the better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The more the help we get, the more expertise that he's got going in the day-to-day operations. It's not like we're bringing in somebody that's completely new. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, there's been a a period of time

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where he hasn't been a water superintendent anyway, but he in fact has done some inspection work for us. He didn't have as a retired employee. >> He has >> Yeah, so we look >> all his licenses still. Those are all up

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to up to speed. And um what about hours? Is he expected to work 40 hours? >> Well, he's expected to pay the same amount for the same amount of work, so yeah. >> Okay. So So when you have that conversation, you let him know.

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>> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah, he would have been assuming and I think he knows it that he'd be assuming the responsibilities of the superintendent on a full-time basis. So a full-time basis means means technically 24/7.

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>> But you know, agreed. It's just he has he has the additional he's a retiree taking a pension, and so there's parameters with that. Yeah. >> So as we go through the job description, if you see anything, think of anything that's that's coming up over the next 4 months that seems outside of the regular

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job description just to let me make sure you make a note of that to include as a addendum. >> Yeah. >> So I'm good. >> And [snorts] then just make sure if you're going to do 4 months at initial that he understands it might need to be renewed cuz we don't know where we're going to be in 4 months. >> And I doubt he will renew it cuz I think

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he believes in Chandler. >> But you know, you know, we we need to make it flexible enough because, you know, we don't know what the, you know, market is out there for uh water superintendents coming from someplace else that's going to meet the requirements that that we're looking for.

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>> But fortunately Chris gave us enough time that we can do this in an appropriate way and not last minute kind of thing. So it's good. Stacy, did you get that motion? Kind of rambling. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> You did? Okay. So do we have a second? >> I will second that.

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>> So voted. >> My my only my only concern is that I have meters that need to be read um like next week. >> We we did say Monday. As early as Monday.

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>> All right. >> All right. Yeah, I'll as I talk to him, I'll check in with all those. See what's what's up. And maybe I mean, Tina didn't have I didn't get a chance to ask the question. If the legal stuff isn't done by Monday, uh can we backdate things in

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terms of starting on Monday if he's here and working on that and trust us to the You're I see your expression even from 20 ft away and it doesn't look good. >> you know, I'm not going to tell you you can't because you guys can do whatever you want. >> [laughter] >> But um

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>> Let's leave it at that, Tina. >> Um but think about it cuz this will come up. Um think about if the foreman is going to be required or expected to do any additional things um and what that may or may not be in terms of working out of classification.

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Uh so think about things like, you know, is Mac going to be signing off on payroll? Is I don't know, like those types of things, right? >> [snorts] >> No, I don't want to over- I don't want to overwhelm him. That would not be a good idea. That's the good That's the good a reason as any to start Matt Monday.

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>> Yep. All right. Any other thoughts? >> So, we're going to We're going to meet We're going to meet on the 4th. At what time? >> 4:00 p.m. >> [clears throat] >> And um you guys will have me redlines of the job description that I've already sent, yes? >> We will.

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>> Yep. >> Perfect. >> You too. >> Great. >> All right. >> Redlines by Thursday. >> Yep. And I'll I'll loop you in on on what Matt's response is and if there's any issues according to what we want to do and what he wants [clears throat] to do. So.

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>> All right. And then I'll I'll put legal on notice to start putting a template together. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. All right. Thank you. >> Thanks, Tina. >> Of course. >> All right. New meter program. >> So, we have to have an RFP, right?

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>> Yes. >> Well, let's get the RFP out then. >> Is that all Do we have that all written up then or >> know what to write up for it? >> I >> No. >> No. >> Do we have any information on how to do the RFP? Well, that's going to go to town council, right?

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>> We haven't got anything from >> But it's town council's responsibility to provide a template for it, right? I would think. I've never written an RFP before. >> that we got something from the town council that gives you a format to use. You got to fill in the blanks.

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>> Is that something that can be done this week as you finish up your time or >> I don't think so. >> No. All right. Um >> Can we ask Stacy to get in touch with >> I can reach out I can try to reach out to Stacy to find out how to

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start this process. Actually, you know what? I'll reach out to Genie and see what she does. A lot of these for different things. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Also, keep in mind the the meter companies maybe are able to give you examples from other

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towns to take a look at especially to help with the technical aspect. You know, it won't be you know, certainly the contractual items would be coming from town council, but they won't be able to help you with the language for that the technical side

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of things. >> Yeah, we we need to make sure that it's written in a broad enough perspective that you know, more than one company can bid it. I mean, you know, you know, we know the perfect mass installation would be

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the only [clears throat] one that could bid it. But, that sort of defeats the purpose of of looking for a contract to begin with. >> [clears throat] >> So, they're not the they're not the manufacturers this pump that we're looking for RFP for the different styles of pumps cuz we went through all the presentations and settled on this pump.

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>> I think the things this pump do are the things we have to ask for. And if somebody else has a pump that does it too, then we should consider it. >> And like we mentioned way before, we're not part of our RFP. That was just our own information gathering. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. All righty. Yeah, if you could take a

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look at that and then I say reach out to mass installation about the technical details. >> I think I have they sent us a template. >> Okay. >> I'll only search that. >> All right, thank you. All right. No correspondence. Nothing else going on. We have adjusted our

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meeting date for next time. I I'm going to switch it. >> So, we'll be on the fourth and we'll meet again on the 11th for a regular meeting. >> Well, I will not be here on the 11th, but yeah, we can just swap it if you want. I was thinking of switching it. >> Fourth instead. >> So, just switch to the fourth. >> Yeah.

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And we'll have the 28th as the second one of the month. I won't >> at the 28th, though. >> Okay, so we'll have two and then just we'll have one, two, three and then just >> Yeah. Yep. All right. >> [clears throat] >> And the calendar. All right. So, do we have a motion to adjourn? >> Motion to adjourn.

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>> Seconded and so voted. Thank you.