okay all set to uh open up the April 1 sewer commissioners meeting Elaine I Bill I Brian Don I um and nobody's on right Okay Um let's
segue into um Okay Hey do you want to talk talk us through that summer street i don't know the all of the details Let me run down and get Okay So while you're doing that we'll go to Dave Update from
superintendent I can move on No it's all right I'll I'll just give you a quick summary because u there's just been so much going on Okay And a lot of it is all tied to all the other items on our list here today Okay But
um just briefly we did uh clean out our septage tanks last week Project went well [Music] Um our injured individual staff member should be back in we're hoping about
three weeks or so Uh no surgery required so we're good on that end Excellent Um I started interviewing some laborers for our labor position Had two gentlemen committee today and both strong candidates Good So we're still working
through some items on that So just an update as far as that goes Um and then like I say we've been working on some of the stuff for the rest of the meeting tonight So it's kind of tied myself and Jeie the last few days but um other than that everything's
going well at the plant Do you want to you can segue into any of them if you want So couple items that have come up Quick question You said septina take the So where the guys come in to offload their
septagement all that sediment that drops in there and does but it's Yeah separate Yeah Yeah Probably a dumpster and a half of sediment just from those pits So rubber duckies What do you a guy come with an empty
truck and just suck it all up take it someplace else It's a It's a two-day That was a three-day operation The vacu vacuum truck comes in they open up the the manhole covers and there's a split wall
between the two tanks and they just pretty much the entire day just vacuuming up with a probably an 8 inch tube just pretty much like what they use for the storm drains that type of truck So the town has a smaller version a little little larger scale a little more
powerful but yeah for three days they just pull dirt out of those two pits And then once they get it all cleaned out we go in there take the diffusers off the aation diffuser take those off bring them up and put we have a spare set So
now you let them dry out and clean them off or check check everything Make sure they're level as we're putting them in And the old ones are usually caked up with dirt and debris So we'll take those out clean them get them prepped Next time we go clean it we'll just swap
those in We'll spare Very cool Yeah And all our results are coming back great with that So everything's all good there Um let's see So one of the things that we need to address we don't have to necessarily get into the weeds of it
tonight but um looking at what the contract calls for for the leeching fields in terms of when the loan starts Okay U with the plant upgrade that loan was
supposed to start six months after substantial completion But I'm not sure if that same uh time frame applies to the leeching fields Uh what I heard today and I'm not sure if
it's accurate is that time from when that loan starts is supposed to be July one of this year That's based on the SRF um schedule we got Yes So it doesn't
seem like and I'm not sure yet I'd have to check on this or we as a crew um if that contract doesn't finish say the wells and all the approvals that go through if that's after July one does
that then move the loan forward or is that July one date for a start for payment written in stone and separate from a time frame of completion it's a good question but I think it's I think similar to the last the upgrade it gets
pushed out because we're not done and the question is what substantial completion like what does that mean and um I was just I had written down before we a punch list we have still going through Yeah And we lost It's still not
online yet It's still not online yet It's not approved We still got to do um I was going to talk about this today scheduling survey the wells in get all that stuff done So this what is sub what does substantial completion mean in
terms of either items on the list or dollars left to be spent and that's this a CDM kind of question right now go back to them but the more we can delay it the better that's kind of what we're doing we could have actually started taking
out earlier well and this goes to the timing right if that if that can't be delayed there's a six-month window for the special assessment to be assigned to it Right so we've got a kind of tricky scheduling
that we've got to kind of lock down Does the loan start July 1 as a deadlock date or does it depend on the the completion status okay So let's say it it doesn't get completed until July 1 Our only
opportunities to collect money for any debt that's known next year fiscal year next year is the August and November bills which we need to have all the information to the assessors for
midmay or January Now if the timing gets pushed out for completion and we're stuck in the middle somewhere we're not going to have money to pay January's debt for the leeching fields
So I think my my s thought is we know the amount we have that on the SRF we know the immunization schedule that if we start collecting if we go with the approach we've been taking with we're going to get it on the July bills then
worst case we have the money in the bank for the bill to come in rather than being backtracking and I would agree with that completely There's two things going on here That's important one we're talking about now But on the other one it's pulling in
whatever is to be done And then making sure that we recover what we didn't get on the other account the other pumps the other the motors we can possibly get that into this which will change the number slightly going forward but like you said we'll have the money We'll be short $2
not $3,000 Exactly Exactly Regardless it's going to have to happen within the next six months Right Right Excuse me The contract completion might be different
from approval from the D to be able liquid up there Yeah There's there's three different things three or four different things looming Our our discussion tonight I agree is that's the priority But you got
to keep in mind the other you know when we get to actually use it which is imminent but we got to get the well stuff We got to get a few other things Just just as long as everyone's thinking that way Did do you see any obstacles with that
do you see any uh So I've never really been through the route of you know how these things play out Okay Um but I'm just kind of bringing the information forward as a consideration because there was um some
talk between other departments in in town the assessment department um collectors department and and just some of those items came up as far as you know is that July one the actual
time the loan starts or if this project isn't finished by then does that push it out because and that whole six-month window becomes a concern It's a good question What I'm going on is we have an ammonization schedule from the SRF from the state saying our first payment is
due and unless they give us a de a different um instructions we have no other option than to go with that Right And that's kind of where the discussion was going that you know we we at this point consider July one that's when it's
due right and you've got that six-month window Um so either way we've got a timeline to address but that the question came up about the completion Is it related to you know is that a drop dead date or is it getting going to get
pushed out six months and and you have to wait for the final numbers to come through but we already know we're at 98% of what the final number is going to be right somewhere in that range right and you know if we we happen to collect
the money a month sooner than uh the the contract all that does is give us um we pay it off a month at the end I mean it's not like we're we would be taking extra money that's not going to be used towards the loan Sure It's all going to
go directly to debt but you know we're kind of pushed off the other field because it's done except for a few things But this is these are all kind of wrap up questions Maybe we should be once we get through this money
stuff because everything's working But this is a priority But you and I particularly because we deal with it Go to get CDM sit them down say "Let's finish the punch list What's left to be done?" Ask that question if you want to give Tom a quick call and we can you and
I can meet sometime you during a week or something just because it's all it's all it's all administrative but it's SRF administrator which is it's a whole another it's up here some and you know let's just say that at the end of this
all um there's $100,000 less that we are going to be borrowing if that's a concern anywhere um If we're fortunate enough to have the town pay um the one-third then the last payment they
just don't pay whatever the one-third you know what I mean it it it'll all wash out in the end We have more um the town has more liability if we don't do this because if if we can't pay our debt
goes on goes that the town has to pay right so yeah I think the the general consensus is we got to get this done sooner Yes That's good And we're you know talking about some timelines that miday
timeline get stuff out as as as the fourth tank gets sold betterment fees supplied by the people get buying in and the usage goes up Is there a time
if we're making X amount of dollars above and beyond the normal operating costs is there a time we would take that money and put it back into paying the debt faster or sooner on the fields we can we can we can talk about it structure of that right yeah because we
the first time the first round I don't know if it was phase one or phase two that was brought up and it didn't didn't buy us anything like there was no it's not like we would pay less interest because they've still got their their
bond or their debt with whoever and they don't pay theirs off sooner so us paying ours off sooner didn't make any difference yeah there's no prepayment benefit other then you get it off your books But then okay let's say let's say we have we start getting a surplus of
money Can can we reduce the special assessment we can certainly yeah I mean we can for for a customer you know that's the case and we have the still have a 30-year commitment or 20 or 30 year commit then we then we could reduce
theoretically reduce the rate We could Yeah And we could reduce the user fees too because we're only going to take out what we need for operating and you know extra Yeah For a future project but we're not building anything at this point in time and and the users
shouldn't have to be paying for something in the future that we're building other than m maintenance and future repairs what we already have Right Right So there is some hope at the end you know once the fourth tank is sold off Yeah I mean I and even at that
we as things develop as it is sold we can we always revisit everything okay for the betterments for the veterans the other part of the equation is if we keep it in our it's in the bank in our
account it's gaining interest that wasn't a big deal three or four years ago going back because there was no there's no zero before that when we first started this it was a big deal and the town was actually keeping money in the bank taking more interest out of it and re remotizing the loan and making
money on both ends But then we got in the middle there you know 1% can make a difference Now we're back to potentially So you know it all depends on the timing and all these other things Okay
Anything else Dave um no I guess just uh you know we could roll into any one of these various things Um the presentation to the selectman Yeah I passed something out
It's um just the one pager It's just really talking points for tonight It looks like this And beneath it I had the um facilities report that
um was the letter from July 1997 This will probably ring a bell for you and it's this letter Okay Um and underneath it I highlighted the letter from July of 97 The first page of
it just says exactly what Brian's been saying to us There's um phase one and then there's a phase two um and it mentions another disposal
site and that's on the last page It says alternative disposal site and it mentions the Davis property Basically what it says is the first one says the current plan phase one involves um constructing a wastewater treatment facility to treat 350,000 gallons per
day And that was the first two tanks And I'm saying this more for anybody who may be listening And then it says phase two um expected to be implemented five to seven years later involves uh suing an
additional area which we call our phase two Phase two Yeah And then it also mentions um expansion and the disposal site which is our current plant expansion Um and then the disposal sites the leeching fields that we've just done
So on the talking points for tonight's meeting this would be the packet that uh we give the selectment and again anything could be tweaked for town meeting based on the feedback we get But it basically just says 1990s the town embraced the role of an environmental
steward of our local waterways with the introduction of the municipal sewer system I lists the benefits of the clean waters I reference the environmental um letter from
1997 and just say that the town committed to paying one-third of the adopted plan back in 1997 And to date the town's paying the co one-third cost of the phase one that's described in this letter and
nothing more They're not paying for phase two which we call our plan expansion and they're not And now we're asking that they pay for the alternate bleaching fees And then I just break down how much that will cost The real permanent one Yes Yes The permanent Yes
Real Yes And um you know that's And then the it was a Tom meeting articles that we the articles have been going back and forth that we submitted Uh the last one that's
on the warrants is in here Um it's article number seventh It the description isn't as uh definitive as we had submitted but we're asking for
$137,820 for the kids for FY26 one-third portion for the T sewer customers would pay the 2/3 and being taxpayers as well would be paying the one-/ird So based on the calculations
um going with 5,000 parcels in town uh the taxpayers would be paying $28 per parcel per year for 20 years which is $551 over 20 years The sewer customers
23 is $125,000 plus the 28 they're paying because they're taxpayers would equal $153,000 $153 per year for 20 years at
$3,60 and that's you know the oneird two3 split If the we're not successful and the 1/3 2/3 split does not happen then the existing sewer customers would be paying $188 for a year for 20
years So I mean it would be a a relief So we're just asking the town to continue their support of paying one-third of the adopted plan from 1997 I mean I you're a taxpayer and a sewer customer Mark do you are the town
buildings getting any part of that betterment for the fact we're getting sewer you can't charge a municipality or a state facility veter but they're paying user fees First part of your argument regarding the one third party
did your town building sewer without a while I hate that I stretch that say if he has to look after coming to the town hall's work Wow that's awesome
People line up in the door That's how I think it's really problem Yeah because that includes the schools too Yeah the elementary school Yeah Mhm We're working on the other school Police
stations on it What else right Police station is not read uh COA highway Library Yeah Library Elementary school School Not yet It will be
That's on the agenda That's since 1997 your nitrogen focus on getting the nitrogen out of the the groundwater I think is is something that needs to be brought up because it wasn't the focus in 1997 as much as the bacterial problem
but I mean we publicly treating municipal waste is it's certainly better than putting in the septic system you know for the end results putting it where the bleaching fields are versus putting it
leeching field that's next to a or direct discharge to the ocean right yeah Yeah I just think that that's a different argument today why the town wants to have clean ponds and rivers and the ocean algae
So one other thing just on this I think this is fine This is great I mean what I think is important is to say if we get the betterness pay this
off as quickly as we'd like this goes away in the future Yeah With with selling the fourth tank So we're open for business Yeah So we have the leeching pill ready to go It's not finally but we're ready We're ready to open up for business And we've been sending that message out in our last two
meetings And I know it's come it's come back to us because we've had people come to Dave and ask for check this out and check to you know have us that's that's message we're going to send is the faster we build the capacity and get the betterment's going to go up We have a we
have a number out there floating Yeah And and after you sent that you see what I said back Oh yeah If you I that's why I was talking about we bought 36,000 which the better I think now that we have some information that from
howish example that's 50 you know you saw my answer that's 50 then is equivalent about 40 our 22 is about 45 we're not far apart so again that's another just kind of everything here is a open door to end
But we want to be open business and we're being held back Yeah And we'll I think as long as everyone's on the board that side of fight Yes Yeah It was interesting looking again at
some of the history that I looked at probably a year or a year and a half ago But uh yeah seeing some of the documentation to to your point about the problem being people call for in the bay the
cleanup has been incredible but seeing some of the old documentation about it how it's benefited the town and to Elaine's point with the math being one-third contribution from each
parcel being $28 seems pretty reasonable ask for something that's benefited the community so much and I you know I definitely see it from what I saw as the early history with the early so commissioners
and some of the documentation and the fecal caulifform counts and direct discharges of waste water to the ocean Now where we've come even recently being asked by the state that we might have to do even more nitrogen remediation and when they discovered
how we're already being proactive on that I think they basically said "Okay Kingston's pretty good right now We don't have to touch them for a while." So definitely what we're doing is making a difference and to have absorbed all this in
$199 as opposed to um Harris being asked to do $50,000 per eru we're at 22,000 Yeah So it it's been a even though it's been um years in the service it's a lot
easier now to absorb some of some of these costs Right How much money is in the CPA room this is this is for environmental purposes right that I don't they could probably add they could probably add the t they
probably add the assessment of the third to the entire column that way and just put it in separate column the fourth column in their buckets those three buckets they're working That's an interesting point That's right That's an interesting point because you know you
have do you guys have any other ideas I'm just throwing it out Better than affordable housing is certainly one of those categories It is absolutely affordable housing on that fix up an old building The town's
expense revenue source So I followed a truck today that said non-toxic waste water tanker truck route 95 I'm going like wonder what that is We could sell Oh is that one of the long trucks yeah
So they're probably picking up sludge from one of the plants to go to Cranet Okay And then we'll take it down Yeah I was like visiting with Al Just don't tell you But that's I was curious you know if we
had any market for that have a way to actually fill a truck I was thinking about that today for some funny reason You know if you treated it could how could you return it back into the community well it becomes economic problem
We we've discussed this We have a we have a we had a willing customer who I think is going to come back to us for irrigation water and we had all that ready to go So there's one option but that doesn't buy us much income Unfortunately we also I think you were
at the meeting I went to the Kingston Business Association after we to talk about where can we put this water somewhere sell it We have an industrial park right next to us We have a bunch of stuff Can we get to them for some use that they would have to treat it for again that when I say open for business
what all kinds of whatever whatever we can legitimately properly do is good environmental stewardship that's a good thing to do I hate throwing water We cleaned up the drinking water supply level into the ground I hated that from
the day I started with the EP And it's interesting It's about the whole constable which has five water districts They're all based on fire They actually have to hammer on that point down there When I was in D they actually I heard this the other day I met with somebody
at D They said they are seriously considering using that water for other purposes in town Really it's like Yep Because how far how far does the Silver Lake from here from our plant pump it up there and put it in there and Brockton
will buy it from us cleaner than rain water I mean that's not a legitimately that's not a stretch If you put it into the ground water upstream of the Silver Lake and let's add a little bit more filtration or just disinfected it Yeah To pump it up to you know take a big
experience more important But the concept is real I mean it really is Most people see that and they go "Uhuh." Yeah Well you drink it first It was originally invented the water gulp Yes
And is there any possibility that that arrangement could be weakened it's been on It's been brought to my attention And I think the commission for me personally and I I've said yeah they want we can figure how to do that you know we're not
going to spend the money to disinfect it like we did before but you know this is our permanent thing it's going to be disinfected and they can do whatever they want But the difference between a price of a gallon of potable water from this water system which is is it worth a
filtration system on the benefit of the golf course They could treat it on their own to finish the treatment process and the only treatment is disinfection That's all that's left It's as clean as can be UV isn't the current technology What's cheap for them to pump it out of
the ground up there which is too bad for our aquifer that they doing it that way better They were using ours to do it because then well now the electric cost ozenation is a more safe technology and
then there's uh which is what city MWA uses It's the first large place large you know municipality did it very well with that It's a very simple You get rid of chlorine and decllorination You get rid
of UV You get rid all that stuff Ozenation And the water actually tastes really good Tastes better than water that you have Water Water in Boston always hits the top of the list as the best water This for employees that work there is
deadly stuff You don't want to play with dangerous Yeah It would have been nice if they to have an agreement with like the apartments that went up at the mall 500 apartments that they have a separate pipeline in and all the water that comes from us just goes to the toilets You know what I mean and to flush the
toilets up there which is going to be 50% of the water use or a third of the water use That's a separate pipeline in get it from us Cheap money cuts back on their bills Project like that possibly on some new construction going up there They do
something similar for Foxboro Stadium Gillette Stadium they have you know purple lines which supposed to bring in just the urinal rec water but can only be used for gray water systems Unfortunately it's a building code problem that been trying
to be tried for quite a while They have dual systems like that But like you said [Music] attemp complex same thing They were taking hazardous waste treated water not sewage pump and treat cleaning it up and
then we're using it for it was like 350,000 gallons a day It was giant postal service that they were going to save instead of taking in water Take the pressure off the water department What less water they have to produce
from the ground Well it's good All of us are thinking about Yeah that's a good idea These are all good ideas This is exactly what we should think about is drinking putting portable water into a toilet is stupid Well back in the day there was discussion of PA landers
getting the getting a uh discharge to them but they have a on-site well so it wasn't cost Yeah but that that would have been another right for their for their processing right for the concrete and everything That's something
to the other And so the other point back to the Haritch discussion we were having u the people in Harwitch are actually sending their waste water to Chadam or yeah they're not making their own
treatment plant So they're just conveying in the river to another town So you look at this situation if if growth isn't happening in town and there's a need for a neighboring community like Ducksberry along the bay where they have nitrogen issues it might
benefit neighboring community if the town's people here on side in So there's definitely some um different thinking nowadays that different communities sharing assets and things So there's there's some
opportunities you know going forward that we can customers aren't the problem right customers aren't provoked It's the well to get to that point Yeah Ducks coastline directly for
Kingston Bay at the same time You just go up what is it bay road has their own private The interesting thing is the pipe is already there from Pauler There's a there's a collection system that takes all that going on Bay Road to
to uh Mr Deto's house Oh does it he's on he doesn't in part of this but it goes up and pumped to a bleaching field a giant septic system that's on room 3A under the bleaching fields under a golf ball
That was an interim kick it down the road can time thing but still was there So it doesn't it's not like it's a huge thing A pump station you're done over the bridge No no it's not even the bridge right there We already got it over the bridge The pump station's on
the other side of there So we have our own pump station right at River Road River landing road Yeah Landing road The park right there Yeah As you come under the bridge and before you take a right to head down to the Adena right there on the left is our
pump station and that pumps over to Maple Street which then pumps up Landing Road and drops into Jones River So the deal with we're right there you know Well I said there's plenty of customers that can really don't have to look
I think the Maring up there Well that's from what I understand and they would try to sell it and nothing's happened Okay Just for this reason we know that that property is pretty pretty wet So like you've been saying you know we're open for business and if Kingston
isn't interested we have bills to pay I mean they could run right that that project they could run right down Park Street be right there Are they tapped out or they got No I don't I think they have plenty of capacity I think they overdesigned that
plant and that's what led to their problem with the collection system mains that they were oversized and the gasification in there was ruining the material pipes So oversized pipes are always going to get
and oversized plants which steel pipe is okay landers [Music] Okay So it sounds like we're just the u take kind of the lead We'll all chime in and yeah I mean purpose is still an
opportunity for revenue for you guys and we keep trying to get an answer I don't think the town is totally taxed out what we can take for purchase That's some serious I think I put this out before and it's a public number $400,000 is our safe number to budget every year of
anticipated revenue from just what the electricity uses fun school I can't believe that we're not capped out We have throwing the dollars away every year by not taking on partners with more solar places Yeah
No that's great Your use has gone up The water department's use has gone up and you should be getting your percentages of those benefits Yeah Because our numbers make it all work
So yeah I'll just I'll do this briefly with them and then it's you know I'm certainly not going to be the only one right under the special I sent you all an email the
meeting for the DPW we haven't had one since December correct I think you all saw my comment that's what I have that's my brain dump of what we talked about and if you had any comments yeah since you sent that out I mean you why don't you just update on where that status is
because I was surprised to see the article for forming a DPW on the war this I think we need to talk about more about this but I wanted to we the meeting was supposed to be things getting pushed out so
my I will inform you after the meeting Thursday I think it's Thursday evening I'll give you another update on what that is but my comments will be what I wrote to you which is on the table already I I think seriously that this is
being rushed and needs to be tabled at least and maybe have a study committee look at it more in depth There's tons of questions about I mean the except there's other writers I look at this the selectman the way this is written selectman end up being
um it's it appears to be the slapman wanting to become sewer commissioners water commissioners and taking more of the financial responsibility which is a I'd love to share it but don't take it away it's very unique and my suggestion
which I made to water commission is as an interim idea to throw out for discussion That's the right one But to have water and sewer commission start to merge because we have combined we have a $65 million capital
investment in a three or4 million operating budget something like that And so the water commission has something like $150 million cap the whole town and similar kind of budget you know start merging those because there's a lot of shared you know we wouldn't lose any
minister because it's going to take all of more to do this you know and more importantly as we talked about this phase two I mean the other phase of this wastewater program is the entire north end of town which is on there from 25
years ago And I I keep saying we're not done So when you're in a capital improvement program it's a lot more complicated than just running a business You know just the standard thing when
you start doing design engineering and big things like that That's very unique to a particular kind of project to throw it to a DPW person who's not have to be a very special person for that You have been very and that's not
what this description shows Yeah So for a lot of reasons I think just thinking that through some more is my recommendation You I'm representing board but tell me what you think and I'll you have to put it into the that picture I I would agree with you I read the article the the Warren article
myself and I was um conf confused by some of the the language in it Um to your point Brian it does appear that the DPW director would be hired who would report to the selective So we're taking
a position that one everybody's paying for that um is going to report to another elected board whose focus is not that particular discipline like ours is so water is
water Uh so now you're adding two more um critical infrastructure issues to the to the selectment Uh the qualifications for the position I think they said five years in a bachelor's degree if I read
it correctly um is less than what our superintendents need to run their operations I mean I have a whole host of you know in shared employees that um would be utilized for
um roads streets uh maintenance of town buildings and there there are no resources to to at from a wastewater perspective to utilize and there are no there is no downtime to have the staff
doing anything else and um that other staff can't help wastewater because they're not licensed So I mean there's just so there's a whole host of things that I think it's premature It's unfortunate
your committee wasn't able to meet more frequently to hash some of this out but I would agree that I would not support the article or that concept at this time with the information that's here It's the last one on the list too
Put that in the formal motion Um that second Okay I will make a motion Uh the sewer commissioners do not support um the formation of a department of public works with the
information available at this time I'll second that All in favor all right Okay Um I think that's and Genie gave us all a copy of our articles The first one of ours is to supplement the existing
budget that we knew we'd have the shortfall based on the rates getting three quarters of the rates rather than the full year of the increased rate So that's one The other one's our normal budget And then the Leeching Field article the Leeching Field article is
before our budget article because if the we're successful with the Leeching Field article our budget article will be amended Well two numbers will be amended the tax levy number okay and our debt number
[Music] Um and tomorrow night uh we'll we have a posted meeting for anyone who contend for the finance committee at six o'clock just to talk them through the Leech and
Field article Yeah 203 Oh yeah Um and that's all I Oh how you doing with stuff with uh Erin doing eric hasn't been in this week Okay So she's coming in tomorrow I'm gonna get an update from
her Okay Um I feel comfortable that we're at least halfway through Okay That the spreadsheets have been updated Um and then by the end we speak on this
product the template Okay Good So at least um I have a april 17th or 18th with Munice Yeah So I want to get at least like maybe 115 properties on that template to just see
and work through test that Good Very good Okay Um 41 summer Yep So 41 summer was a burst pipe Um there was 332,000 gallons on the meter for water
and sewer They average 8 to 9,000 per quarter Um so their sewer bill in March was 4,6996 and the water was
4,430 Um so if we average it out they average about 9,000 gallons for 1860 plus the $42 fee Okay I'll make a motion to adjust the sewer portion of the bill based on their average usage of 9,000
Yeah Second All in favor i imagine getting that bill A medical bill too Heart attack Well burst pipe doesn't go in the system So just just goes on the ground ruined
the burst pipe to the ground What the burst pipe of the ground out in the house It ruined the furnace No I'm just saying a burst pipe doesn't go into our system Right Right No I thought when you said that they kept using it and they didn't realize it was all watering and past them either
That's not good I guess his comments there Bathroom and kitchen water lines and walls were both leaking the water damage The the furnace is unrepaiable Um water damage
and this Kingston Shores letter is it this is history Oh yeah that was just part of the history that we kind of attached the other paper there with the yellow stickies kind of copied to it It was just more on the history Okay
On heard about this letter but I've never read it about sewage is so bad one does not wish to go out of the house The stench This was in 1988 Kingston Shores I wish I could have captured that that
whole thing I mean it was gross It says we have raw sewage running down the sides of our streets See about kids waiting for the bus I don't think that your property wasn't as bad as you know to the other side of Rocky
going up from Holland's lane I mean all the way and then the end was spaghetti I mean I can you could smell if you stood at the boatard near the dock It was like unbelievable Those plumes of suds going out like five or 10
of them at any one time it was raining out Really oh yeah It was I mean every day it was like there's no place for anything to the ground Yeah You have people there who were supposed to be cartridges Now they're living around there no placement to go and it even if
it didn't rain it was doing that but if it rained it was no go down it was you could smell the tide and the sewage at the same time you know all that going all the way up and you have like 15 and then it was a windy day the sudden just get worse and worse and
worse I mean right and every like Michael grew up down there you know they just used that when they were kids it was the big deal was they open a sess They take a bunch of buckets and throw them into the water So the ses would be
they throw them into the beach and then get them a couple hours you know Planted a lot of rhubarb as well Yeah Everything grew better around the same existence Remember the toilet paper
stuck to the stone street out of that pipe that comes down from Florida shut down the red community building Yeah because the we're having to pick whatever day it is going There
was water running down the staircase on the back of the building that was overflowing the manhole cover that was at the top that the toilets all fed into But we wanted to find out where the where it went and that discharged directly into the Jones River Went down
on the landing road and discharged from the reed community room into the river That's where it went But we wouldn't have known if it didn't back out Oh wow So we forced them to put in a septic system four or five years later Sutton Sue was but they couldn't use the
building They couldn't use the bathrooms toilets in the center of Kingston that flush directly floor directly into Oh yeah I remember Yes I I remember getting my head didn't even have plumbing There was a plant on the on the floor
I remember getting my hair washed in the sink and you could look down in the sink you could see the river running up In fact when I started when I removed the Kingston there's a pond If you go on Maple Street is it Maple Avenue now Leap Street where the PI station used to be
and the river comes through there Stony Brook On the upstream side of that there was a pond and somebody came to the conservation bridge You want to fill it in and Alli Ken was on the commission then and he let it be filled in The reason was because of what you just talked about Everyone was there was like
I'm not kidding you There was like three bars there right flushing toilets all into the river and the pond It ended up being like a septic tank The water would go down the river and then settling because you had a road with the dam on it So you'd have toilet paper whatever all sitting there all and it's not like
hell and they said fill it in so the water go faster through and keep going to the river Everyone's giving a hard time Why are you filling the pond in well look at really haven't we there's a backyard You see this big blonde there that was a pond
And the river goes is pushed off But you know what I'm talking about yeah I know My the whole district folks are going to that pond where it was driving down Bag Nell one time There's a hedge You can see the water coming underneath the
hedge going and running down the street into the storm range coming out of the septic system There was a lot of those Or if you opened up the manhole cover the street you look down on the grate you could see the white pipe sticking inside about 18 inches below the the great from
somebody's house Overflow Yeah Doesn't count the sun pumps Unfortunately there are several pumps They're not as noticeable They're not as big a problem because most of the sewage you know you're taking all this continual sewage every
single lot and the ground saturated everywhere Now you're taking that up So now there's more dry in So some of the septic systems that would have failed that were failing now have somewhere to go a little bit and there's only two people left in the house or you got five kids anymore All this
stuff still we're still working on We still have a lot to do It's bottom line Did you notice back the groundwater table going down in your your area of the town since the sewer line's been in um well when the sewer first came in thanks to the crushed stone you guys put
along all the water lines and being at the bottom of the hill um all the weep holes on my seaw wall were at full capacity 4 inch concrete hole built in the early 1900 was shooting water three feet out of that wall the bottom of the
sewer Yeah Because all that water was coming down like a great big French drain for I got it all Yeah Uh so we were providing some good uh good ground water but it was going straight into the the bay but it was ground water because all was clean was pristine So your
system was so because I noticed my property when I first bought it used to have water in the basement like 6 8 in and since the then we got on the sewer line but that within two years I've never had water come back into the basement It's never plucked up up out of the ground Well could be like that is
finding that stone is traveling line for the stone Well most if it's in the pen lane it's fine If it went if it went across excuse me any kind of wetland they put dams in it so that it wouldn't do that right that's just the design because you didn't want to drain
You don't want to drain a weapon Yeah Yeah But if it's just getting high ground water down it's a good thing Once it stabilizes stop doing it right which stabiliz okay eventually soaked in they they're gonna go up and hydro seat
again or what's the plan that's one of the punch list items that okay we need to talk about because now is the time to do it like now it's on that list I know they know about it but I think CDM we got to Are they going to do the whole property or just the areas that are they're critical I would think we should
probably meet on site take a walk through and assess it with CDM and say look this is what we where we're at now And you know you're the expert as far as the seeding side of things To me grass seed is grass seed Since we're talking about the leeching
fields and CDM uh I've been reaching out to them about the reimbursement since midFebruary Dave reached out and copied I believe Elaine Um and we still haven't received anything So um if we can next
week at least Yeah I'll be trying because I something did come through but not should 449,000 came on the 14th okay of February Um but that's it So there's still some outstanding reimbursement So I just want to
yeah I think he was tied up on Friday was going to put something on someone on it this week I think was his response So hopefully we'll see something from soon but okay Originally when I sent out the
email it wasn't made aware to me anyway that that 400 whatever was reimbured but that's that big chunk could come in but there's multiple other if you can just coordinate with CDM and have set up and we can have it
on site that we put with the contractor Maybe CDM and us first I don't know Well maybe see what the punch list is and what we're going to deal with There's some spring rails They're not they didn't get worse over the winter Front There's a couple things like that that that uh run off the problem And I looked
at the know how that happened A tree hit it A tree hit the like when you look at it A tree hit the sil fence knocked it down Water went underneath that Somebody cut the tree a little bit but that's where the water was going under You can actually see it on the underneath
Somebody came back I didn't look at it all So because there was a burm it was designed and built correctly I can say But there's that kind of thing Just getting that if that was all grass none of that would have run up It would have just soaked in or held it you know But they need to get some annual eye up
there and then see what happens to the rest of it Fill those roads It's not a big job It's easy Of course we ran an irrigation pipe up there from our plant right to reuse the water from that site Good You can put a well We have well there we could use that in an
image We probably let us do it because it's gone in the ground and it's cheaper than it will self-contained Anything else we should talk about you got a half hour before the next meeting right yeah So we'll um
not journ but I think they may be going through other articles as well just show you and the uh capital plan and then they're going to finalize the warranty Okay Then that would be the rest of the articles I I don't want to keep this
meeting open Yeah Reconvene to the suck meeting at six o'clock Okay I'm approve with that Second that All in favor