--------- Time being 6:00 on the 11th of March 2026. I call this meeting of the capital planning committee to order. Let's begin with a roll call vote. Heath Ember I. >> Wayne Bullley I. >> David I. >> David Fuller I.
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ex review and accept discussion, I'm postponing that meeting to another time. So I suppose you can stop listening to the recording. Um yeah, we're not ready with the meeting minutes. We only have one set outstanding. So save that for next time. Does anyone else on the committee have
any announcements? Right. Hearing none. Uh Scott, do we have any updates with regard to finances or anything else might be pertinent to capital? >> No, we still haven't had a free cash um submitted and certified yet. So,
>> okay. So, we're at some point uh and I was hoping to have time to do this today, but I didn't. I'm going to have to assemble a list. It sort of be like a draft of everything that we're reviewing for this year with the estimated cost. something that maybe you could build the
um warrant article off of when the time comes. Sure. >> But we have to get a sense for how much we in terms of money have we actually looked at so far u by next meeting. So I'm going to probably get started on going through all this stuff and then I'll if I can get a copy together, I'll send it to you.
>> Great. >> Um do we have any idea? I don't really want to jump ahead too much to future meeting planning, but um sorry um how much time do we have do you think in
order to continue this process? Because I get the feeling that we're going to get some more updates on the fire department's medical equipment problem. Um and obviously we don't want to make a decision till we know more about that. Um,
>> well, the the warrants's going to close on the 24th. >> So, really have very little time between now and then if you wanted, >> we'll have a place back in. There'll always be a placeholder for you.
Um but beyond that that's you know really the biggest deadline. Um someone named Stephanie Hatton online. Is that another school committee member? >> That's our um business and finance director. >> Okay. The new position, new person. Okay. Just want to make sure. I'm pretty
sure I know at least three members names member names. At least three. So, I think it was probably ruled out. I just want to make sure that um that you guys aren't posted. We're careful of that. All right. Then on to schools department. So, you may join us at the table if that's easier or
more comfortable. >> Okay. uh broad here. Whenever you're ready. Okay, I'm >> I'm gonna ask Mike to present the the two requests. The principles are also here to add any additional information
as to how these two requests would impact the school. Um and um Mike can also address the the change in request as well and as to >> the elevator. Yes. Circuit board or whatever it was. Yeah. So, um, we put in originally for one machine at one
building and then the elevator upgrade at the other, um, building and this week we had our state elevator inspections done. And we had, um, reached out to other vendors to have them come out to, uh, give us a quote on top of the one that we currently use, the company we currently use. And during the
inspection, the tech realized that the control board in our elevator isn't what they had um in for replacement. So I reached out to the vendor and asked why and they said they somehow had messed up putting in what control board we had in
those two elevators. So that's why we changed and um added the other machine to it. So um the two machines both are kind of combo machines. Um I'll start with the Ventra. That machine will help with um mowing the fields at KISS all
back. Um currently we have an old John Deere that we had the horiculture kids take last year up at the high school and try to work on and get that running. Um that one is a 1999 I believe. They weren't able to get it running um
efficiently. So that one is sitting there, you know, kind of just dead in the water in the garage. Um, so this ventra will have a mowing deck on it and it also um the quote that's in in there has a snowb blower attachment bar for it which will help with the winter and on
the sidewalks. Um, we have one up the high school and the machine is unbelievable. It really goes through the snow. Um, so a storm like we have these past uh couple of weeks would have helped a ton up there with that. Um, it has an enclosed cab with heat so you can
be in it all night long if you need to to keep up with everything. I can't load the price on my computer's acting enough. I can't see the total price, but I think it was just shy of 60,000 for that vent track. >> I have one that's just shy
um yes of 60,000. I also have a nor power equipment uh equipment estimate. >> 37 38. >> So the nor power one is that's for um a Kabota RTV, which is like a mini pickup truck. has a dump bed on it, which would
help out with landscaping stuff and clean up after storms like we just had. Um the two attachments that we included in that quote were a um sixoot Vplow for the front of it for sidewalks and a spreader to be able to salt the
sidewalks on campus. >> Can I just ask a question? I know you were just started I think on the on the vent track, but this says invoice to the middle school. >> They keep screwing it up because we have the account there. So when we actually get the quote Yeah. >> anything is going to live at or work at
the middle school is not in our wheelhouse basically. >> No. So it it will be if it get moves forward we will get the actual quote that says can. >> Okay. Continue. >> So these two machines um will help a great deal um on campus both buildings
be able to be utilized at you know both campuses there. Um I talked with um Sean Turner this past storm and you know they you know do what they can and they kind of went above and beyond because we got so much snow this year they had to come in with you know heavier equipment. If
we had these two pieces of equipment we would be able to alleviate the need for that extra help at the end because the crew would be able to keep up and sustainable. Right now they're operating on a small old old two old Kobotas um that are kind
of hybrid tractors too. They have mowing deck and snowblower attachments too. Um but they're not as heavy duty as this vent track. Well, the Vplot would be for the uh RTV. >> The K one is >> the K one is been it goes into the shop
at least twice, three times. >> It's been three times since I've been >> Yeah. Okay. So, this one that we're looking at, make sure there's a lot of stuff here that this type of machine is going to live at KIS >> on most facilities. >> Yes, exactly. But that one would be
probably at KIS because of the fields right now. It's difficult to keep up mowing all those soccer fields out there with a 4 foot, 5 foot mower. >> So, that will help. >> And uh where does this machine live when >> that would be over? That would be over
at the elementary school. >> Elementary school. Both would be utilized on both campuses during storms and stuff like that. >> Okay. So, okay. You've got some uh accessories here. >> Yeah. >> And I'm haven't had a lot of time to go through this. Um it looks like we we
have like a catalog or brochure that lists multiple >> Yep. So, that's the mowing deck. >> Mhm. >> And then with that machine, there's um they list everything else separate. So, you buy the tractor and then everything else is on top of that. So, there's a an enclosed cab that would come on that um
that has, you know, heat, um windshield wipers, stuff like that. So, they'll be able to utilize it in storms. The um that machine, I think there's a dual wheel kit in there, too. So, the dual wheel kit enables you to mow the hill
safely. So, without the dual wheel kit, you can't mow the hills because the grades too much on them. So, >> yeah. Uh, >> now would the dual wheel kit just be installed for the mo entire mowing season and come off of the snow season? >> Yes. It's very easy to remove.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, it's just a stabilizer. >> Yeah. Yeah. And same with the cab. The cab is removable, too, because you can't use the cab with the dual wheel system. So, when you put the mowing deck on, you would take the cab off. >> Okay.
>> Unless you're not mowing hills, but gas has a lot of hills. It had too much >> raises the center of gravity. >> Yeah. >> And you have a snowblower. >> Yep. So, snowb blower attachment on that too. It's heavy duty, belt driven. Um,
it really powers through the snow. >> Anyone have any questions so far? Wayne, Chris, David? >> Well, I'm curious. Youth soccer uses those fields. Do they often help out with uh cutting? I mean I know you have to do you probably run gym class out there too I'm assuming.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. To my knowledge they have not to help and I think you soccer is the ones that schedules the fertilization the overseating and stuff like that. >> So that's kind of out of our hands. So we try try to mow it and keep up. And I
know it's it's getting hotter and hotter to you're going to mow it anyway whether they're pitching in or not. So u I mean or at least you know purchase the equipment and keep up with it. >> Yeah. And the amount of snow we had, the parking lot in front of KES is kind of small. Did you have to have any snow
removed from that parking lot or just let nature take its course? No. >> So, Steve, um, sorry, Gerna, you know, the the town does that, the parking lot. So, the uh staff at the schools do the sidewalks and the in the back uh playground at KIS and K.
>> Yeah, we have addresses at K. So, it's it's a lot. >> Oh, it is. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, the parking lot, the town brings up heavy equipment, so they were able to stack it with that. >> Now, um I think it's the Ventra here, the quote has um
a date of expiration on April 6th. >> Everything that you get nowadays for quotes from these companies are 30 days. And um we're probably you know we'll obviously be at town meeting later than that. So we'll be past that point and I don't know how the schedule goes. I know a lot
of departments it seems to be July the July following the town meeting they enter their orders or their procurement for these capital items with some exceptions. Um do we have any idea what kind of a contingency we should be building in? >> I can check with the company.
>> If this number it passes then come yes >> May, June, July. >> Yep. So I can get a quote right before you need that number and talk to them and see what they are suggesting of what they're anticipating for increases. >> Thanks. >> I know one of the departments works with
a vendor that gives them an advance if you wait until this day. You can expect a likely >> Yeah. >> price increase or a definite price increase even sometimes to the amount. We've rushed a few things because of those price increases before. >> Yeah. Yeah. I can look into that.
Okay. And um the K Cabota machine, what are some of the applications other than just being able to throw something in it and drive it around? >> So that one there um is a four-wheel drive machine. So that one, one of the attachments is the Dplow for the front
of it. So that will be able to help with the sidewalks um cleaning up and then also a um spreader like a little mini spreader you'd have on the back of a pickup truck to be able to spread salt on the sidewalks and stuff like that to get around. So that way when you're in a situation where you know you get those
early morning storms and you're trying to get ready for school opening, you know, you can make sure that you get everything salted and it actually starts to work before students start to come in. And that has the dump bed on it too. So they can do use that for like landscaping stuff and be able to pick up
stuff. And >> and to do the sidewalks this time around, did we need snowblowers or >> they use the um the >> We only have one at K. We used the K Cabota and then snowboat. Snowboard was just got kind of eaten alive. We were constantly tearing those up. >> The K Cabota was good up to a certain
point. It was just too much snow. >> Yeah. >> What was that? >> Was it? >> I said there was that. I know my snowblowers had >> Yeah. The whole back of K is just one big like parking lot for the playground.
And like it was >> the trouble with the plowing operation was the wind was so bad. >> Plus the accumulation was so quick that they the wind made they had to they had to pause plowing operations >> because the wind was taking trees down and branches and everything else. Right. one of the contractor's vehicles got
struck and then that snow built up so rapidly that by the time it ended but what I heard was they couldn't use the one tons, the pickups and the six wheel dump trucks, they had to do the first pass with the 10 wheelers. Glad we bought those a couple years ago. I >> I feel like they did the most shoveling.
Like that's that was like a ton of it because >> the machine supposed to keep it from shoveling now can't do the work and now you're back picking up a shovel. You become stronger than the machine at that point. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's challenging. >> Which if you could only have one, which
one would you take? >> The bad track. >> Cuz we have no idea what our >> Mhm. >> finances are this year in terms of what we're able to spend. We have to pay $700,000 or so. So nice deficit down with the same money we
would have used for capital. And some of that money has to go to pay prior years uh capital financing and we don't know what we don't even know what our total number is let alone with you know what the balance will be after we fulfill those commitments.
So yeah I mean anything you can do to help us understand the level of priority here um is going to be really important. Yeah, definitely the bench rack and like I said, the the amount of time it takes the guys, you know, to go out and mow their mowing, you know, if it's a three times a week on that back soccer field.
>> Yeah, I would I would say and there was a significant amount of overtime because we don't have the right equipment. >> So, it's I mean, the overtime is going to be significant and that's that's a cost that if we have a better machine, we'd have less overtime. >> Yeah. No, I know that's um an argument
we've made for some of the other equipment we do for the highway department, the streets, street trees and parks people, some other departments is that if you have the right equipment, you get the job done faster >> because you're talking eight custodians and significant amount of overtime >> and risk of and reduce the risk of injury too. You know, it's it's a lot to
do all that in a day and then recover. You can't really recover because you do all the next day and then >> people um have cardiac arrest just using a you know, snowblower. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> sometimes I feel like I hear about that more than shoveling. >> Again, the machine's supposed to make the job easier, but becomes a real
hazard at the same time. So, >> um, yeah, you don't want them doing that all day and all night. >> What type of warranty comes with the Ventrak? >> Um, I'm not positive. I can look into that. >> I can tell you we've had um the same machine up at the high school now for
four years and it it's it's unbelievable. You can get a a ton more attachments. we wouldn't need it at, you know, KS or KS, but the adaptions we have at the high school level because of all the field maintenance and stuff like that, it's it's a very unique machine >> and I'm assuming it's serviced annually,
so going in, you know, it's going to >> Yep. So, there's two two local companies, I believe. Um, the one we use is out of Connecticut and there's also one in New Hampshire, too. And they'll come, they pick it up, take it down, usually winter service, you try to schedule it when you're
>> it goes, >> think you don't need it. Uh the the for the high school it goes to uh Connecticut. >> What's that cost? >> Um it depends on the year what it needs. So >> I mean the transportation just >> Oh, I think it's $150 each way.
>> We're paying like between 250 and 300 one way to send the trackless up to burn. >> We have a lot of equipment at the high school and middle school level that that is Toro product which uh purchase that track. So, I don't know. They give us a
better a better deal about pick up a couple machines at a time. >> Any other questions on the machines from the committee members? >> Hey, can you hear me? >> Yes. Yep. >> Um, so general comment and then couple
questions. So, general comment, remind me, Heath, I thought, >> yeah, >> at Falltown meeting, um, we purchased the track list with Streets and Parks, and that was supposed to take care of some of this. That that machine was a quarter of a million
dollars with a large mowing attachment. Uh, >> I think that machine has priorities. If I'm not mistaken, I think there's certain So, for instance, anyone who can drive that in a department, they don't take that out until all the truck plowing, I believe, has been done first.
And um I think they have certain I don't know what the exact breakdown is of the operation, but I think there's certain places that maybe they hit first with that machine. I know they I've heard they gone and helped the schools, but I don't have level. I thought I remembered in their presentation that this was like
part of that or at least they were going to try. Anyways, uh that was one. Uh we tal we touched on the warranty. It would be good to get that information and then general life expectancy of the machine.
Um how long they they normally last. Uh annual maintenance cost we we touched on. Um, and then lastly with with our budget situation, um, I mean, how about the short term of of just contracting out mowing those
fields? Has that been taken into account? What's the cost of that? >> Well, is that just multiple applications machines are involved in? So, if you said we're going to delay the machine on the on the on the uh field mowing, what
do you have when winter comes? you know, unless you can find someone to do the snow work and get it done so school can open promptly. Um, you know, I'm thinking about this a lot from the snow side of it, not just because that's what we've been through, but it's harder and harder to get people
to help the snow. >> So, I mean, that's a good question. Um, but that's not the whole picture. I just wanted to say that. >> Um, >> I hear you just just trying to take everything into account. >> Um, you did mention something though.
Oh, the the trackless machine. Did they bring the sidewalk tractor to the school this year in prior years to to do any of the sidewalks or anything? >> I think just the sidewalk that comes down the main road. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I've never seen >> that's like that's not usually ours to do anyway though,
>> right? >> I have just physically seen that. So, >> yeah. >> I think this year with the amount of snow they had to bring the big equipment, the skid steers and stuff like >> which aren't even our towns because we don't have a skid steer. We're talking about somewhere down the road adding one. All right. Um,
let's see. Let's a little bit about the future. What are we looking at in the years to come? Because I know we've we've had we got some stuff on last year's list. There was a bunch of stuff we haven't gotten to. Um, looks like, you know, this year at least we're talking about this tractor. We don't have to worry about the elevator
right now, but what else is on the horizon? >> So, working on that um the um building list that we have the um >> envelope my mind um you know working on that you
know so we have um a lot there obviously um you know we're doing a little roof work this year >> when you say working on it are you talking about like the facility staff are doing a lot of the stuff on the list or we're talking about planning to pay for a contractor >> paying for a contractor yeah so there's
like window sealance stuff like that uh dual asalent stuff like that >> I'm I seem to recall I think it Kes was like $2 million not including the roof and a few hundred,000 at KIS not including the roof. >> Yeah. >> And um it could be anything from like
$200 to replace a vent cover or $1,200 to seal something on the roof that wasn't, you know, like a pipe opening or something like that. It was all these little things that just >> add up. But I'm getting very worried, especially after this wet and cold winter. all of the uh the mortar lines
on the brick out especially by the preschool and on the front of the preschool those cement blocks that build up the core they're just dissolving and they've got to get that replaced or patched um not just unsightly but eventually
it's going to be a problem for the building itself. >> Are you planning on how are we going to finance that? Are we going to do like a special article and you're looking at maybe like some kind of a bond to do a large project or are you going to try to do it in pieces just find some way of paying for it year after year after year
until it's done? >> I mean I guess that depends on how the town wants to handle that like what the best option >> is. I mean you can do either or um chip away at the stuff. Um some of the like the roof obviously you know we'll reapply again to the MSVA for the roof
then we'll be >> continue the more get more of the square footage done. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then same with um we applied for the the storefronts, the windows and doors at KES also, but we then invited into that one. So that's on the facility assessment. So when we're when that opens up again, we'll apply
for that. >> I guess a lot of it could be like potentially grant a grant >> from MSBA. Yeah. >> Um what about the roof on KISS? >> So there that's in tough shape, too. Um I think >> you're laughing. I've been up there to
see it. It was a few years ago and it's not getting any better. >> Yeah. So, no, we're spending some money um right now for roof repairs. >> Yesterday and today, they're working on it >> once the snow cleared. We were set up to to go right before the snow happened and the the cold snapped there. Just so
anyone that doesn't doesn't know, David Puller was on the line and I we went we went up there with a big group, but we went down a ladder to a lower level into a shaded area. It was a heap of scrap roof membrane growing like mold and moss all over because it's in the
shade and it's wet and it's holding the water there. Uh it's not drying out. And you'd walk around the roof and you'd find where they took pieces of that and glued down patches where they identified the source of leaks. But it got to a point where it's like the patch is now coming off or the patch I found one that
had was a hole in the patch. is patching hole >> and it would seem like that I think at some point should we get like a contractor's part of the budget to go up there inspect and make small repairs. >> So that's what we're currently doing
now. So we have a we have a contractor that's going out and they're spending um I believe that one was three days with two or three guys, you know, a set dollar amount and they're going to go through, inspect it, patch what they see, and then let us know from there what else we need. Have they done what
was it the um infrared inspections I think it was where they where like you know the leak comes down here but you don't really know where it is on the roof because it comes through the roof hit the pipe moves this way >> comes down on the ceiling in the other wing. >> So that was done years ago. >> Yeah. Okay.
>> So that would >> I think eventually we could apply for MSBA grant because it's been 26 years. I know. Okay. They keep pushing out like probably like 30 depending on who applies. Yeah, I was I was in the by the way in the um elementary school for a cub scout
meeting at night. Those ones we had like 3 4 days of rain and the rain had stopped just done like an hour. We were in there for you know it stopped before we got there were in there about 30 minutes or so and over where some of the ceiling tiles are with the water
stains. All of a sudden it sound like somebody opened a hose in the ceiling and we had to run a barrel over to catch it like >> K. >> A k. So, it was basically unless a hole opened up, there's no cause for it to come in at that volume
that we think bad shape up there or it was just >> pulling up someplace in the space between the ceiling and the roof and then just let out. >> But, I mean, it was just like it was like a running hose and it lasted about >> 2 minutes maybe, maybe not that long, maybe a minute and a half, I don't know.
But, uh, luckily that's the that was over the cafeteria. So, that's part of the new roof, right? Is that >> I don't know. >> I believe that was the part that was repaired. >> There's a there's a strip along the front of the building, but I don't know if it extends into the cast.
>> No, the one that's going to get repaired is >> more that connector that >> the wooden connector that >> that's not spot we usually have water. >> Yeah. If you look over the ceiling, like over where the tables aren't up at the stage, you'll see where there's like two or three of these ceiling tiles that
kind of have a juncture uh on the framework and you'll see some brown marks. That's water leakage, right? And it there's no hole in the tile, but it somehow got between, you know, the tile and the track it sits in and it just all of a sudden everyone's just like, "What is that?" Who turned on a hose? Was
>> that recently? It was I think in the fall. Okay. >> My kids cub meeting. You know, they only have the meetings when their school days. So, >> yeah. >> Wasn't summer. It wasn't winter cuz it would have been snow. >> Yeah. >> All right.
Well, that's good. What do you >> Did we remove roof uh snow from the roofs after the storms >> at um K? Yes. >> And how do we do that? By by a snowblower. >> No rain. We had a a roofing contractor in there. >> On the roof.
>> I know, but they it was actually this big big burlap sack and they would just shovel the snow in and the crane would bring it off and dump it back up. >> That was a lot of work though. >> Her roof didn't have that much snow on it for some reason.
Did the cost of that go to snow and ice? >> I was wondering if that was how that was if that was something budgeted for if that was >> No, we definitely know. >> No, with with Kes because there was some interior damage to the sailing tiles and sailing grids. The insurance
told me that they would if we file a claim they would most likely cover the roof snow as part of that claim. Does anybody else have any questions? >> The only thing is I don't put the chill for KS that's been on the list for a long time. >> Like a half million
>> that's been on since we created seven years. >> Was it K? K one >> that was well it's K I'm speaking for Kill. >> It's been a high priority since I think >> there was a chill around >> 2023. K 2021. I guess my question is
though, there's no air conditioning. Is that to get air conditioning >> or KIS? >> Yes. >> Is that >> that's Yeah, that's to get air conditioning. But those those numbers >> they don't dehumidify though, >> right? >> I worked in an office and the was very humid in the summer and they turn on
chiller. >> Why is all the paper curling? >> Because we don't have an air conditioner. We have a chiller and it doesn't take the humidity out of the air. So the printers would get jammed because the paper would go in like this. Yeah, rugs get wet.
>> Rugs get wet. The car the hallway carpet gets wet. So, it gets saturated and then >> just stays there. Unless you preschool hallway, we'll have five dehumidifiers going just to soak it all up >> in the summer or in the >> Yeah. >> I don't know, you know, if you're if that's what if that's the battle you're trying to fight. I'm not I've never
heard of a chiller that did both functions. I've heard of air conditioners to do both and like the you know the mini split units will do both but I've never heard of a children joke now but that was an older building so it might have been very old technology I don't know
I know KISS it's been mentioned to me by one of the teachers that they wanted one some area of the building has no um cooling is towards the back >> well there's no air conditioning at all >> at all >> the main office and the library
>> and The >> auditorium >> save the book. >> And that building is how old again? >> Kis is from 2020. >> And we it is we have three wings that are different. >> 200 >> 2001. >> Sorry.
>> Yeah. Do every single day. >> Yeah. No, it's 2000. >> 2000. >> 2000. That's what I got. Yeah. Why? I literally look at every day. All right. Well, I think that that probably does it if I don't hear any
other questions or comments or anything. >> Do you know what date you need that updated quote so I can >> um I would just make it the sooner the better because we don't really know when things are happening because this we have a a real obstacle not knowing what
our budget is. Uh, and then we decide how to prioritize. Um, which will probably be done in one meeting, but I think there's probably some outstanding questions on the fire department equipment and some other things we may have to meet about again leading up to that. Um, but once we hear that the
number will probably start moving faster or maybe even scheduling earlier meetings. Um, so I would say you could do it next week. That'd probably be, you know, more than sufficient, but getting beyond that when we're going to be, you know, scheduling these meetings to finish it
up. That might be something I I be a big topic for discussion, but I feel like we have to go through some of the fire stuff again because things are going there and um I don't know if we'd have to return to this stuff. It would be good to at least have it in the meeting and say, you know, this is
what's changed. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> You as well. >> Great. >> Yes. >> Have you met Carrie and Jake as well? They're the two
>> No, I don't think I've met you guys. >> I'm nice to meet you guys. the new principal now, right? >> Interest there's so much that needs to be done. >> Yes. >> And you know, having somebody on the committee who can kind of drive it from
that side, right, >> would be good. I don't I don't think the schools are fully capitalized. Not that we have the money to do it, but something we need to keep top of mind. >> Yeah. No, committee and see if we can get that at least sort of out for upcoming year. >> Yeah. Sure.
>> All right. Thank you very much. Have a good night. >> Are you ready to talk about information technology? >> Not really. >> No. Okay. >> No. What I actually So what I did get out of them a lot of confusion but from it appears
so we we did have in the was it in the fire budget for their server for the police fire server. I think the buyer had already submitted that. But I do have what they had recommended, what I got from MX um
was um server and of the townhouse uh new servers over at the police department for FY27. And so the townhouse um consists of 14,29926
and the same thing at the police department 14,29926. Then the installation um comes to $10,000 and that was it for FY27. >> FY27 is
okay. 144. That's what was just rounding up a 29 >> and then the $10,000 installation. >> Yeah, >> we were originally looking at a $25,000 server install this year, not including the joint server. So, why are they is
this a different server for the police department than the one that they want for 80,000 now? >> I believe it is. >> But like I said, when I asked them to send this over to me, I I actually found it I was more confused than I was before they sent those over to them.
>> Did they happen to tell us which buildings they installed in the prior year? >> So that was my question. I basically sent them everything that you had asked and then what they sent back was a lot of papers. Um so FY26 it says Allen House 14
and >> right and then um the fire department one for um 10,89 library for 14 plus and then a $12,000 install. Now whether that was done or
not or how much of that was done I'm not sure. So police and fire each either have or getting server even though they need a joint server which I suppose supports the um dispatch but I figured all their record keeping that they >> was like in their redundancy server right. >> Okay.
>> Redundancy server. So but you said the townhouse I thought under this year and fiscally year 27 are we do we have multiple servers in the building? So it says, yeah, K Kingston townhouse host one was FY26 and it says Kingston
Townhouse host three is the FY27. >> Yes. >> I think the way it was explained to us the prior year is that you kind of had this vision in your head that >> they're picking what? >> Not in my head. No, no, but no, but the
way I I perceived what was being explained is that we would pick two facilities per year >> do an installation over the course of five years. So now it's like, okay, what have we done? What are we going to do? >> So FY28 does have Kingston Townhouse
number two. So there must be three in service here. It also has um the library um for host three. Um and then 29 there's another one Kingston townhouse and it's less expensive. It's a $10,000.
>> So what's probably happening is some of the operations from other buildings are probably going through the network and coming into this this building here right with COA or >> um I imagine like phone lines and stuff probably have their hub here. So there may be something separate for that
agent. Maybe EPW was separate but maybe just put it in his townhouse. >> Yeah, >> it's not DPW. >> We'd like it to be >> officially streets, trees, and parks. You had that conversation last night. >> We did trying to find a shorter way to
we'll call it a highway. Yes. Does anyone have any questions about the servers? I think that answers my questions. No. Okay. Um I was hoping to bring the bylaw in some changes I've been taking notes on, but just didn't have time to
formalize a draft or anything. But if anybody, this is your time, if you have any questions or additions, things you want to do with it, let me know. Not hearing any. um future meetings. Uh we are scheduled for the 25th.
Excuse me. Uh when we didn't vote on the 25th of February, I figured we'd be doing that on the 25th of March, but I'm not sure we're going to be ready by then. Um I'm seeing one meeting between now and voting just to go over some of the stuff and get it into a format that
we can really um grasp it during the meeting when we're actually having to pick and choose what what we're going to do. Um, for now I'll just take it one day at a time until we have numbers or anything else that we're going to get. I would I
wouldn't mind potentially seeing if we could if something happens in the short term during a meeting on for the 18th or the 19th and that way we can vote on the or the 23rd. Uh, you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Monday. Uh, that way we'd be ready to vote on the 25th. Um, part of
me though says this is this will probably go into April. >> Yeah, I do and and you folks are invited. I do plan to have a budget presentation for the select forward select ben on um the 24th. So, um
obviously it's uh it won't you know they're closing the warrant that day. Um we'll have placeholders for everything. Um, we won't have all the articles or or any of that stuff already, but I will give the general overview. And I would
desperately hope that I would have my free cash number by then. If not, we certify them. >> Yeah. You guys hear that on the phone? Um, there's going to be a budget meeting at the board of selectment on the 24th. >> We're invited to attend.
>> Yeah. >> Hey, I got there in double capacity, David. Yeah, probably. Hey, the 25th I will likely have a conflict uh assuming the boys reach the championship game,
which I'm hoping I'm hoping to as the undefeated number one seed. Um, >> so >> so uh yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to make that meeting. >> All right. Well, if we do also might
have a conflict Was that correct? >> I also uh will have a conflict >> on the 25th. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we may want to push that if we're going to have that big meeting on the 24th. A little time to digest. We
may want to push that. >> Yeah. >> Would anyone be opposed if we have information on the medical equipment doing something sooner like the 18th or the 19th? It's not something you have to answer now. just think about it. Um there's
some some things that need to be confirmed about um what the status of, you know, what we're going to have to do with regard to this equipment and uh the fire chief is looking for some means of resolving this
without necessarily knowing that we just probably don't have the money for it. And you know, I I would think that we need once he knows what's going on. I figure there's probably a discussion there to be had so everybody's informed. Um, you know, one meeting ahead of voting it, if
not during the meeting, we're voting it. I just usually prefer to come in and just do our voting. And the only other thing we do is if we have to do minutes because the voting discussion itself and all the motions take a while. >> Yeah. 19th is preferable over 18th.
He trying to get some clarification from the state if that is a drop dead date on the expiration of the town council. >> See when did he indicate that he was having a roadblocks in the answer or >> I think he discussed it but I think he
wants to reconfirm just to make sure maybe there was some gray area. >> Did you say the 19th was good David? Yeah, I'd prefer the 19th over the 18th
>> and either works fine for me. >> All right, good. Um, yeah. So, I think I I uh we we spoke today. I gave him a call because I'm starting to get my my memory on some of the stuff's getting a little fuzzy and I didn't um have time to
rewatch them the prior meeting with the fire department. Um, I know he was going to have a conversation about that. I know that town council is leading any specific direction. Um, I didn't want to bring too much information to a meeting
if it wasn't true or if you know just any conditions that we shouldn't really go into detail about it tonight. So, he mentioned that um he may have opportunities to uh I guess replace this equipment if he has to. I don't know if he has a funding
source or whatnot, but I certainly wouldn't want to jump into talking about how to pay for it if he's found a way. >> He's great for social. >> Yeah, he is. Yeah. Um
All right. Uh member comments, questions, concerns. Anybody have any? With that, I would accept a motion at 6:44. >> I move that we during the meeting at 6:44.
>> I have a second. All right. That was you, Chris. >> That was me. >> Sorry. What? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sorry, a little bit muffled there, >> Dave. I hold on a second. All those in
favor I have to write this down for the minutes. All those in favor say I. Oh no. Sorry. Roll call. >> No. We got a roll call. >> Roll your I know. I know. >> All right. David said I. >> I. >> I. Chris said I.
>> And I say I. >> Motion passes unanimously. >> Meeting is adjourned. Part: 2
Okay. Um, I don't have any minutes from last month. So, um, I didn't get anything sent out from Jim and I didn't hear from about it, but uh, >> so we have to go today. Bills, we have no bills to pay. Um the mail we did get
a uh I sent it out to you guys too today. Basically that NAPC webinar. >> Yep. >> And the uh address we can go look at any of the older ones too. Some of the others might be uh more applicable than
the one that's coming up. But the codes on there to get into this one for free too. So >> 25th I think it is. go ahead and uh take a look at it. That was the only mail. We haven't got much mail lately.
Um CPC report that we went to the Tom and I went to the CPA meeting, CBC meeting last week, >> right? Last week, was it? I guess it was seemed like, >> right? It was last week. Yeah. >> And um the project right now, our
proposal for the uh gravestone restoration went right through. No questions, no nothing. We didn't have to say a word. >> And let me add, you were praised for how well you made uh the application. They said your application was perfect.
>> How many have you done that? >> Yeah. But still, nevertheless, you know, you're doing a great job. So, >> so yeah. Well, you know, we have we have a lot of history here. So, yeah. >> Um, so that went right through. The next step is it was supposed to be a public
meeting. Um although it's run a little bit differently than what we used to have public meetings and public hearings. Um but uh next thing is the town meeting which is May 2nd. So if you can be there
on May 2nd just you know just back up that'll be good. I don't know where our article is for that the CPA article but usually comes on the first day unless it's a lot of stuff. So that's the plan right now.
Hi. >> What is it? >> Upstairs. Yep. Yep. Um the 300 historical talks. Now Ken had requested information from the uh
library and whatnot and he sent out that email to you guys about the different things coming up during the year. Want to talk about them or we all set with them? Did you get to see that? Yeah. >> Well, there was one that that I'm going
to do and it's probably going to be in May, probably close to Memorial Day, and it's going to be on the um Captain Simeon Samson and the Independence and at the library. And it was kind of funny the way he kind of put a question mark there
and uh and uh and that it's uh going to I don't know going to be a I don't know talk and I don't know. He said it was worded kind of funny, but it's just going to I'm just going to give a presentation. That's it. And it's and uh apparently it's been approved by uh the
library. Uh the date has not yet been set. It'll be either be Tuesday or Thursday and u and it's a fascinating topic other people. So >> yeah,
I don't see you on here though. I think it's on the >> Oh, okay. You're on this program on Kingston South Irish history. >> That's not me. >> Let me see.
>> When's yours? Missing it. >> Yeah, it says here 5 526. I maybe they already picked the date and didn't tell me. >> It says talk with Tom. >> Yeah. What's it want to >> That could be your own webcast or podcast. Yeah.
>> Talk with Tom. >> Talk with Tom. >> Yep. >> Yeah. So, yeah, it's it's >> right. One thing I just want to also mention >> historical talks today. I met you remember Christy Costa came um maybe
three meetings ago or so from >> from the Windgate. >> Windate. Yeah. >> Yeah. Right. And she asked if we could come down and you know talk to the people about history. I went out I talked to her today and what what I'm going to do uh it's going to be
I think April. Yeah, it's going to be in April and it'll be again a Tuesday or a Thursday and she just wants me to do kind of like small little bits. Um you know funny little story about this and oh during the Civil War this happened and and and there's a house in Kingston
which is quite interesting. just little little bits of things rather than a long lecture about something because many of the people there are challenged with dementia and many health issues and so on. So, she'd like me to just kind of do like little
highlights. So, I'm going to choose, you know, a dozen little highlights and just talk about and I'll I'll I'll um I'll I'll photocopy some large images to show and I'm going to bring like u like the the sword u you know, things like that.
they'll be very interested in it and um and tell tell them a little bit about the Grand Army the Republic and I'll bring you things from church, you know, the old model of the first parish meeting house and and a foot warmer, how it was so cold in the churches and you
know, just fun stuff basically do and I'll let you know how uh how it goes. >> That's great though. When are you going to start that? I think it's going to be done in um April. And I told her that I'd come and do another one um maybe during the summertime or something, you
know, but or we could take a small group to the ovarian ground. She was very interested in that. The only thing I mentioned was the footstones are a bit hazardous. You want people who can see well and who can walk well because somebody takes a head trying to get away.
>> Yeah. I need that sounds really good. >> Yeah, it was a good meeting with her and I'm glad she came to us. Steve is the sort of thing that we can help her out with. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um Okay. Anything else in that regard?
You know that that uh we talked about briefly before how that someone was telling us once that they had um Barry Moore the actor um not Drew but like >> John
maybe his father or some actor but they lived out that way and they would race their horses up and down groves. >> No kidding. >> Grove is it Grove or Lake Street? the one that goes past the wind gate. Is that Lake Street? Lake Street. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, there's some history
there about them. >> We got to find out about that. That's very interesting. Where did you hear that? >> Um, some woman came one night talking years ago about this. >> We got to find out. I'll ask Lil.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Because we we should record that >> the other thing. Oh, well that's the steamer thing out there, too. That >> Oh, yes. >> blew up. >> The lady of the lake. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, but yeah, that would be interesting to have written down somewhere.
>> Oh, yeah. >> Those two houses that were there, they took down. We had preservation. We tried to, you know, we employed the demo to lay on them, but they eventually, you know, took them down. Um,
we should probably investigate that because the beams and everything someone took them for to rebuild and I heard, didn't we? Yeah, there was someone was building one in Alaska or something. >> I don't remember that. I know the the building of a mantle was kept as well cuz that was a tavern that allegedly some of the tea party was planned at.
>> Really? >> Where did they hear that? I'd heard that going back to when I was a child when that when they tore that last one down that um some of the tea party was actually playing in there as a tavern. >> Well, we got to find the mantle then.
>> Yeah. >> And some of the stuff was put over in the archives in the the library >> um before long before it actually got officially approved as an archival storage area. So, they may still be there. >> Okay.
um signed to Peters Grove was still there. >> Y >> but um the mantle and a few other pieces of the building we we were going to keep well I'm not sure it was the mantle. I think it was it was some paneling. >> Yeah. >> So um well that's I didn't know that
facto about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> If we had known that then we could have used that as an examp >> because they never built there. They just tore down the houses. They were going to they want them torn down because they were going to build it on >> those plans again. >> Are they? >> Yes.
>> Well, we'd be facing it again, but you know, um that's interesting. So, you you want to follow up on that? >> Yeah. Well, another thing is um one of the sailors on the independence, the great independence was a Tea Party veteran. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, I have his name. We can check
into that fellow. So, I wrote down Tea Party. I'll check into that and see if he has any Kingston or or even surrounding community. Uh because you know they could have a ball net there. >> Fascinating. They could bring the mantle over to Windgate. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You know that'd be an interesting thing though that they could incorporate into the new building if they build a building in there. >> Yeah. >> With the mantle up there and say this was a mantle original site and it was a home that Yeah. >> So if they're buying a building, we should talk to them. But first, let's
see if we can find the mant. um PA helps. I talked to uh this was a couple weeks ago after actually after our meeting, week after our meeting, I talked to uh facilities manager about
it. He was all upset because how he was treated at CPC and um and they were asking for all his stuff he didn't have and then he couldn't make it one night and they um you know didn't treat him very well. So he was he pulled out his
applications for work on the on the uh >> Adam Center and also I think on the powder house he was going to ask for um but he was you know he's really up to here with the uh
Mike Barry as far as getting back to him on the work that's being done on the powder house. It's very little contact. You know, he sends some emails to have a gift from them and there's invoices that he wants to make sure if there are any invoices that they get paid. Otherwise, they're going on. They may not have any
money. So, um I gave Michael a call and he picked he didn't answer. He said he when he called, he never answered the phone. I called him and he picked right up. Um and I don't know if he really knew who I was, but he picked right up. And so we were talking about it and I
was telling him to give us, you know, get in touch with him. Um, soon as possible, if you have any invoices and he said he didn't have much of any, but if he did, he got them right out and, um, he talked to him over the weekend. Well, last week in the middle
of the week, uh, Rob sent me an email saying he hadn't heard from him. That's it. They're going to pull the plug on on that. Look for someone else to finish the work on the powder. So, um, and he knows about the date. Michael Barry knew about the dates, you know, and he is saying if he got going on it again, he
could probably get it done by late spring. But, um, there's a little Eve's work to be done. There's a shingling on the roof and the front door has to be done, um, completed and then the thing would be done. >> So, it's not that much work to be done.
And he said, Bur said that he thought that the what they had budgeted for it right now um would cover the rest of the work. They've already procured a bunch of the shingles for the roof. They have to get some more, but um
so that's where we are with that. I don't know what's going to happen with it. >> Let's hope this year it'll be finished for the 300th. >> Yeah. Yeah. December 31st. So, um, that was the powerhouse 300th
anniversary committee. I guess we have kind of a schedule out here. >> So, um, we're a little bit below right now till May. Um, except for our talks. Um, the next event will be the art show um, in
May 9th. And then followed up after that is the um proclamation on June 27th. So that will be at the town green. Um like to we put a request into the governor's office um to see if um or the lieutenant
governor could come out. Um we did hear back from the lieutenant governor's office that they would let us know um weeks to a month prior. So, we may not know um just leave a spot open and may not know until shortly before. Um along
with that, um I've been getting some pricing um need to go in front of the board of selectment, but I would like to put a um memorial for the Revolutionary War soldiers. um preferably on the town green, but if not, then in the veteran
section of the old barber ground uh just because that location is right next to both locations are right next to where all of our Revolutionary War veterans are buried. Um the I think the green would be more satisfactory just because does have a
Civil War monument on it already, but as you know, a lot of our Civil War soldiers joined other regiments and went elsewhere. They didn't really go on that green, but that green's documented as our Revolutionary War soldiers actually mustered there. >> That's where the men, the Kingston men
mustered on that green. I think it should be put there. If you put it back in the old buring ground, it's hard to >> No one will get that. Yeah, that's the one place to put it is in the veteran section. Way in the back. >> Way in the Yes. Um again, I think that's appropriate. So, I'd like to um dedicate
that um that day if possible. Um if it's not completed then uh do a groundbreaking and then maybe dedicate it on Veterans Day um in the fall. >> Will it have the names on it? >> No. Um it's just going to right now just going to be basic um just dedicated to
all revolutionary war veterans from the Tower of Kingston. Simple sentence something like that. Um we is it 41 veterans roughly if I remember right number >> um this is it's not a large stone it's
just going to be 16 in tall by 30 by 15. Um we could always get a pricing for more and add stones to it. Um I know >> is it what when you say stone >> um it's like a a small angled almost like a gravestone. Uh so small angled stone.
grand. >> So it's thin though. >> No, it's um it's so 16 inches high. >> Yeah. >> Um by 30 wide by 15 >> wide. So like this. >> So it's a thick gravestone. >> Yes.
>> But it'll have an angle top. So you'll be angle. >> Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice if they had the names on there and then have an indicator which ones are buried there. you know, like a star buried in >> it would have to be a much larger stone. >> Yeah, we could uh
>> you know, >> we could see what the pricing is for that. We don't know what we'll have um as part of the committee for that. Um >> but you don't want to, you know, be so big that it out civil either. They got >> Yeah, I know. Um the town of Marshfield,
I believe, did one recently and they put all their veterans on it and it was a large obelisk um but they spent upwards of $70,000 on that. So >> yeah, those are very expensive. >> We are the good thing is is that we have
located our our Revolutionary War veterans and they're they're marker there's a marker on >> so they can be located so it's not like they're missing a >> Yeah.
could have a little little uh like kiosk or something that would hold a pamphlet that had their locations and names and the cemetery right there. Yeah, >> I have seen those kinds of things. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I think at the uh
at the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington, it's a kiosk and and you can actually open up and find the names of of anyone that you know, like an uncle of yours that was in there and you can locate where where his name is.
>> The risk of circling back around, you could use a QR code. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. except we don't know too much about them. Um yeah, John, go ahead. >> So, um that will be uh June 27th. Um the
parade will follow that uh the end of July, July 25th. Uh we have a bunch of plans. Nothing has gone forward yet. We're still waiting for the um uh approval from the state. We got kind of delayed with I had to get approval from the police, fire, and the board of
selecting. So, I went in front of the board of selecting last night. um get delayed two weeks because of the storm supposed to go the night of the blizzard. So that didn't work out. Um so as soon as I get all those letters complete I they go right to the state highway and the state police and then when they approve um we'll move forward
with everything for that. >> Will that be the same route as the memorial? >> No, it's going to be um the proposed route is starting the same location at the elementary school coming down Main Street at Maiden Summer. um stay on your main street um go all the way up to
tourist corner and then come down past here and then it will end uh anyone walking will pull into the parking lot and we'll bust them back and any vehicles will continue down to Spurs at the end of Summer Street. >> Maybe the historical commission should march right along
>> or we'll have floats too. >> Get the old people out there. >> Yep. >> Why not? We are trying to line up some um antique um cars as well. So >> Oh, that'll be wonderful. Yeah, >> we can always >> Isn't there an antique fire truck in town?
>> Uh there is. It's now It was the fire departments. It's or the fire department, one of the associations involved with fire department. They sold it. So it's privately owned. >> Um so I think they're trying to find out if that's still around. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Doesn't um
Bog Hollow don't they have that firet truck still? >> That that's a different one. Yeah, that's I think down from the Bourne Wayham area or something like that. >> Yeah, >> it's not Kingston one, but it's fire truck. >> Yeah. And then but we will um our two antique
handdrawn hose reels will be in the parade. >> Oh, those. >> Oh, great. >> Yes. And >> are they going to use horses or man? No, they're going to be on the trail. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Jeez. >> Yeah, >> that's what you could have done. Pull
that trailer. Those >> need to do what's happen. >> Sounds cool. >> Wheels fall off and that'll be horrible. It's wonderful. I'm glad you're doing that. >> What about bands and stuff? >> Um, we do have some uh interest from some bands. Uh, they can get quite
expensive, so we're thinking of limiting to two or three bands. Uh, and then if anybody wants to have like um a rock band or something on a float, that would be accept acceptable, too. So, >> you have to pay them. >> Wow. >> Bands are two $3,000 a piece to march in
your parades. >> Really? >> Yes. >> Some of these groups like Revolution and War Reenactors and stuff like that are all you have to pay. So, the parade could be kind of expensive. >> I mean, I guess, but I just assume that
like they would do it for publicity. No, >> the high school. >> Um, we're we've been in contact because they're supposed to do the Memorial Day parade as well. So, we reached out to them for that, but we haven't heard back from the band director yet. So, >> how about the churches in in town? Any
interest in the churches? So, we haven't put anything out yet, but once, like I said, once we get approval that the loot is definite, we want to put out to all social groups, churches, uh, rec groups, uh, sports groups, anybody that wants to participate, March, do a float.
>> Yeah. So, that will, uh, hopefully come out shortly in the next few weeks once we get approved. >> Yeah. >> Great. >> Um, so moving on after that, we'll have the old home day in September. Uh that will be followed up by fireworks at night and then um we will >> where will they be shot?
>> Um all that will be down to Paul Street Fields. >> Oh, okay. >> And then we'll finish. >> Real fireworks or drones? >> No, we're doing fireworks. >> Yeah, the drones are a little bit cost prohibitive. Um so then we'll be doing
um our final thing that we have planned is the house doors in October finished up by the senators. same day. >> Yes. >> Follow up on what? >> Uh the cemetery. >> How come you didn't go for the governor? So election year, right?
>> We sent it out to both of them, but we've only heard um from the lieutenant governor's office. >> Yeah. So >> you think she'd want it? But okay. Well, that's pretty cool.
>> Sure is. >> Anything else? 300. No. Okay. Um burying ground cleanup. We got green green grass. We got clear ground. >> Yes. >> Over there now. So, anytime. Have you
found anything on the scouts? >> Uh no, not yet. Still trying to get a contact of them to put the flags out for Memorial Day. So >> because the rumor was they they're not in existence anymore. >> They they they are still in existence. Um a lot of the parents that we knew
their kids have all aged out. So we need to find out who's actually involved now. >> Probably stop and talk to Mr. Elgen. He still stays involved with them. >> Okay. >> All right. We do have um a few adult
volunteers that wanted to learn about the um cleaning the stones. So I think they would probably also be interested in doing a clean up. We plan something >> we should be setting a date on that. Shouldn't we? >> Yeah. >> Clean on the stones.
>> Uh so I u I stopped down today because I was getting that's the one of the gentlemen I got prices from for the uh memorial. Um, and he said anytime. Um, I did double check with him about the respirator thing. So, he said, um, I
know we got those kits. He said just use the sprayers. Um, he'll show us everything, but he said don't even bother um scrubbing them. Um, it's better when it's wet, but you don't don't touch them at all dry because they're that's all black mold. So, he said you don't need a full respirator. You can use a paper mask, but he said
our best bet is just to walk around, spray them all, let them sit two or 3 weeks, go back again, see what changed, and if we need to, we can respray them again. >> Right. Yeah. They don't they don't scrub them, right? Yeah. >> The ones that take the lynching off, too. >> It can. So, that was some of what I've
done some research on is some of the heavy lynching uh lynchings. You can use the uh the plastic scrapers >> um or the the soft wooden bristle brushes and take those off if need be. So, we can see what gets taken off after
the two sprays. Um and then if we need to then we could have someone with a respirator >> because I run into a few of those and with the stones. >> Yeah. Some of them are quite large on them. Yeah. >> Yeah. No. Uh, no scraping on Marvel. The
marble is just too fresh. >> It's It's too Yeah. >> Be better just to leave a >> Yeah. >> Like it on. Yeah. >> I mean, it's like it's I think they call it sugar sugar >> sugarizing. Sugarizing, right? It's you you can put your hand over it. You get
>> you get little >> But they say don't don't do that because that is black mold. So that affects you. Yeah. So it shouldn't be >> cigarizing. Yeah. any any of that anything growing on the things that shouldn't be touched because it can when it's dry because it can get into the air
bugs. >> Um so yeah, so that's anytime he said he'll come out and show us that if we get a group together. Um I I told he said, you know, a little bit more into the spring and we need to let the rest of the snow melt anyway, but I
told him I would like to um do a cleanup if possible beforehand. So maybe you plan that first, get as much of the heavy stuff out of that cemetery as possible. >> Yeah, >> I know. I talked to Sean and we said I don't know if they probably won't have people available on the weekends, but um
if we do it during the week, you could probably have some of those people help us out, but at a minimum we can make piles and you would send us. >> It's really bad. I was just doing that today in my backyard. >> Yeah, it's just >> it's horrible. I'm like branches after
branches after branches. >> Big clean up. >> Some of these stone companies that I talked to um they sent praise to us for restoring that cemetery to what it was before. >> They sent what? >> Praise. >> Oh.
>> Um and they said um thank goodness we did it when we did cuz if we hadn't in the storm, we probably would have had massive amounts of broken. That's the truth. I didn't think of that. >> Yep. Well, I did when it was blowing. Thought, oh, it's a good thing and stuff.
>> And we have to think of that be too thing. >> It's the strangest thing. They just don't get back to you. >> Yeah. >> But springtime. Well, yeah. Springtime's a good time. >> Um, >> season.
>> Yeah. So, the stones out there, um, we've got this coming up for town meeting. So hopefully we'll have the um money if if it's approved, we'll have the money July 1 so we can start. And that puts us back to this grant that
we're looking at this MPPPF grant from >> and it's just like if we had applied for the grant this year, well, one thing is that the conditions and requirements have really changed. They've just mushroomed. In fact, now they want a preservation
restriction on a property. you getting it for. Um, and so that would have to go before at least the selectman, maybe even the town at a town meeting. >> Um, it's all sorts of stuff that they require. But the thing is that the timeline is you wouldn't have this
money. It wouldn't be for the money wouldn't really be coming until like into the winter and if you wouldn't be able to do any work done. So, we would get no work done this year if we tied our money to the grant. So this year thinking is we'll just take
the 75 from CPC and work on getting things lined up for the grant for the next year and we'll also put in the money for CPC and we can the CPC money will come in July and this
other one will come if we get it will come in the spring basically following it. So we'll have like basically two hits in one year >> if we do that. But we won't be getting it this year. Um
and I and the 75 is for you know just from the CPC. So what I've been doing is so we can send out um contract information because this is going to have to go out to bid I think at 75. >> Yes. Um, I've been over I was over in
the cemetery before the snow fortunately and I did 75 stones over there and I had the sheets out there. I took a bunch of photographs of each one, measured them, wrote down type and what uh what's really has to be
done to them and I'm going to have a hundred of these. I'm going to get a couple more over there and um have these available to people who are going to be providing bids so that they can look at them. They can come out
and look at the stones too >> and see. >> We can flag them like we did before. >> Well, there's a lot to flag, you know, but um we can if we have to. >> Yeah, I guess there's no other way to really unless you've memorized where all the stones are. Well, I marked what grid
they're on according to the, you know, a cemetery grid, >> whatnot. It's got the name and the picture should help to locate them. That's that's the first one of the list >> that um we've got. Now, that one only has one picture because it's pretty self-evident,
>> but several of them have like different views of the stone, whatever. Maybe you and I can take a walk through and take a look at like see what you're doing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can you can help with the next ones because I've got to do 25 more.
>> Yeah. To finish up. >> Oh, I see. Yeah. >> As we estimate we'll be able to do 75 to 100. >> Yeah. Are you thinking of taking care of any of those stones that are just turned over just flat? >> Look at that one. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's good to do that, you know.
>> Yeah. That's that's they're top on the list. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah. Yeah. >> Some of them like that one that's broken into like five, six pieces. I don't know if they can fix it. >> No, they may not be able to. Yeah, some of them I call them dead stones.
They're gonna be gone. >> So, I don't know what to do with those, but we'll have them look at them and um they'll come back with their proposals as how many they can do, which ones they can do. You know, the amount of money we have, >> I imagine you could probably put them
back together. I mean, they may not have the original look to them, but you could still cement them. >> Yeah. Some of them, you know, some of the um marble ones to get back again, they're just >> you pick up the pieces and they're
practically disintegrating in your hands. They're horrible because of the ground mainly. >> But there's a question I have about stones. Um on this talk, the um I found this stone a couple of years ago. It's under moss. I was walking through the
graveyard there. There was moss there and I saw like about a dollarized thing. and I see this gray thing down there. I said, "That must be a stone down there." So, I cleaned off all the moss off of it. Sure enough, there was a stone down there. Person died in um 1724.
Um he was a pushman. He was a young guy about 21 years of age or so, something like that. And was married. I looked up on ancestor. He was married, had a kid, he drowned. It's all written down that he drowned. And he was the son of one of the what do you call it? the engine,
>> right? >> Right. Exactly. And um so uh so I have so I mean it was it was just it's it's very fragile, you know. I don't think it could be repaired. We could show it to somebody. The whole base is gone,
>> you know. So it's so it can't be put in the ground unless you create a base or something. We don't even know where it really was from exactly. I know where I found it. My question is this, and it's something that um what do we do with stone that simply
can't be reinstalled but are in the burial ground? Should they simply be photographed and literally buried in there or should they be stored somewhere? Like should this one may want to you may want to bring it to the archive because it's a very old stone
and it's got a certain art to it, you know. Mhm. >> Um or should it be kept in the basement of this building right here on shelves and until people decide future technology how to what to do with it or create artificial ones and take pictures
and I don't know but it's something to think about um uh over time what do we do with stones that are old that are clearly worth something and um I don't know what I know Boston has like a repository
where bring the old stones and they keep >> Yeah. I was going to say when I lived in the UK, all of the cemeteries had um like maybe along the edges against the rock walls, they would like
lean stones that they found out of order or were broken or >> you know, so they were always still on display, but they were kind of >> along the walls or, >> you know, off to the side in like a
garden area. So, >> something to think about, you know, I mean, but in any event, the stones have to be somehow stored, saved. Meanwhile, this stone is in my basement, you know, it's on a on a piece of plywood, and it's nice and dried out now, by the way.
I mean, you can really read it now, whereas before you really couldn't. But, um, and I brought into the classrooms twice to show them about the art of of the parks. Maybe that area where those people might be people but might not be people
>> um on the hill there. >> Yeah. Bus building >> if you cuz if I remember correctly there's like a wall right there. So maybe you could >> Well, that's I don't know the wall. It's just a hill. >> Yeah, there three tombs.
>> Oh, the tomb. >> I mean, they could to store them. They could keep them inside the tombs. have an entrance to that. But >> nobody's going to see in there. >> Yeah, >> but there is a wall between the green and the >> cemetery. >> That's just a thought. So,
>> no, that's that's something to think about. Plus, we have those stones that are over at the townhouse, the old townhouse in the garden there. And this he had another stone in my basement too which was hit by a tree that uh right next to the Bradford Major
John Bradford's uh gravestone and it's like big big slabs of stuff and maybe in in this uh in the new brand we can have them put it back together. >> Well yeah picture of it. >> Yeah I'll bring in a picture and show you uh what you think but it's got to
it's going to need professional work. It's just it's very heavy. I have a random one that we can throw in from my basement. >> I'll send you a form, Tom. You can fill out the form on it. I don't have any blanks here right now. That's all right.
You have a random stone in your basement. You said, >> "Yeah, I have a very old stone." Um, remember we talked about it, I think, when I first joined and we found out that apparently whoever it is is actually buried and has a
stone. So, I don't know if this one was >> Yeah. an error or you know sometimes people make mistakes or >> different type. >> Yeah. And we had >> you said get a picture of that to us. >> Yep. >> Yeah.
>> Um there was a stone in the uh older house of a person who has a stone in the new part of of the old burying ground. And the one that's in the new part of the old burying ground has a cross on it. You know >> the one that's in the in the um in the
what do you call it? the hurst house. It's just a plain round thing. >> This is the standard like >> pilgrim hill like arch gray granite, you know, standard if you
draw old gravestones. >> Yeah. >> Um 1700s. >> Yeah. Get a picture. >> And no idea why it's in my garage or like >> Yeah. It's been there for ages, but I
don't know how or why or >> that house is private property, right? It was >> the Hurst house, right? >> This debate still around. >> Yes. >> Is it good? Okay. >> I haven't seen him for about half a year, but then again, you know, the
winter time, you know, he I don't he's not down there in that graveyard. I see him in Evergreen all the time >> visiting his wife's grave. There are also several stones and I don't know if you've seen them in the garage below the office in Evergreen
Cemetery and Yeah, there is. Some of them >> may or may not have been from the old barrel down there for sure. >> Yeah, I should really check that. So many things to but those are probably from Evergreen, right? >> Not necessarily. When I went down there with Christopher showed me them some
people just bring them so it could be >> from the old barrel ground. >> So some of them are quite old. I I was told by um um one of the aberists that works down in Evergreen that uh there's
some homes um on Green Street uh and in their yard there are gravestones uh that that that are used as a walkway. And uh he says, "I'm not telling you who they are. That's up to you to find out kind of thing." You know, he doesn't want to get into trouble.
>> But um but that's the kind of thing that was done. You know, an old gravestone was laying down. Somebody said, "Ah, well, I'll take it. I don't need it anymore. >> Don't need it anymore." Right. So, I mean, yeah, we should have maybe we'll figure out how to do that after we finish everything else. The
300th and all that. Yeah. >> All right. Anything else tonight? >> Okay. >> Yeah. I got one thing. Um, the old seat that we got was down at the Mel. Yes. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Something we need to find a spot for that. So, I don't know how much longer at the time we'll have that building. >> Okay. Have you seen it lately? >> Yes, it's in there. It's still Okay. >> Is that the one that Jack Bur? >> Yes. >> Oh, we've got to do something. >> I actually talked to Nick about it and
he was unaware of it. I don't know. I was going to show him it. I don't know if there is actually um >> Can you fill me in because I don't know what you're talking about. >> Do you remember what type it's called? I I forgot what it's called. >> What is a settle is the name?
>> It's a long like deacon patch. I think came from Didn't it come from the church? >> It could have come from the church. We have to examine >> gave to the town before we left. >> Yeah. >> And just a place to put it. It didn't give it to us, >> right?
>> He gave it to the selectman or >> I think he gave it to the town or something. And the only place they could find to store it was the oval. Why don't they put it in the library? >> Yeah, right. The Adams Center. I don't know maybe books or I don't know if it's
sturdy enough. I But we I know we were discussing we wouldn't want people sitting on it. >> Oh, really? >> Um >> is it is it fragile? >> Because of the age, but I didn't seem fragile to me at all.
>> But it's supposed to be really heavy. I hate it when people put stuff up and then put like a rope across it. >> Yeah, that that might be a church. >> Why do you have a couch here? I'm not quite >> obvious, >> you know, the heat was bad in homes, you
know. You know, it's an old antique. Uh >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> I don't think it's a church. We'd have to turn it over and really examine it. Yeah. So, it's made out of >> I was going to say it looks like a more like a tavern booth.
>> It kind of does. Maybe it comes from Bill Dad's Tavern. >> Maybe. Yeah. So, >> because those look like what all the Snugs like in the UK and the taverns look like. >> Yep. >> Right. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I do I do need to check with Nick and see if there might be a location for it.
>> Yeah. >> Next. >> Yeah. >> He'd want to know. We put the keg next to it and really >> Yeah. >> Did you John did you know about this first? Is that how it came to our
attention? >> Jack told you or >> No. All of us. I believe that's how I found out about it. >> What was the story in it? Do you remember? >> No. It must have been something when he said
that or it came from or we think it came from God. >> Did it come out of the old town home? >> No idea. >> So it came out of his house, right? >> Well, yeah. Yeah, it is. >> Is it along or um I don't know.
>> Maybe a waiting bench. >> What? >> A waiting bench. >> Yeah, I don't know. Okay, I have a few things. One, and one is a good thing about Jack Bur. Um, uh, we brought a book, uh, one of our books
down to the Plymouth Library. We thought maybe they would like it in their historical room and they have a lot of local history stuff in there. So, we thought, ideal. So, I I brought it down there, and I left a copy with uh my card and information. And I said, uh, because
the, uh, person who was in charge of the local history room was in on that day. And she emailed me the next day. She said, "Hello, my name is I think her name is like Sheila Bur and and my father-in-law, Jack Bur, what a loved history of Kingston and uh, you know,
and he lived, you may not know it, but he lived up on the Holmes Brewster uh, house and and so on." >> Brewster and and we're very happy to have your book. So I emailed her right back. I said, "Well, of course we knew Jack Bur. He
was a member of the, you know, the Kingston uh commission, historical commission, and and uh was a great fellow and we visited his house and all that. So it was kind of nice, kind of neat to to uh to hear that, you know, the name Burmains."
Um, okay. Uh, next book committee. We're winding down. Uh, we got our second alignment a lotment from the state. Um we were uh and with that together with the money we had we've been able to pay a lot of our bills which is really good.
Um and uh make certain adjustments which we should make and and uh you know as time goes on we'll have less and less in our account and and after we have about 40 books left to sell. That's about it. And uh oh >> it's amazing. There was originally a thousand >> thousand. Yeah. Amazing isn't it?
>> That's really good. Yeah. >> Yeah. That was a lot of a lot of uh a lot of work by the treasurer, put it that way. Not this this I had long um long lists of things uh sold. Well, anyhow. Um yeah, so
everything looks great. Uh I did contact the selectmen and there's a couple of selectmen apparently who never got a book. So I said, uh I have books. I'll put ones aside for you. So they're going to be picked up in the next few days. Um, so things look uh very good. We're
very happy with the way things have gone for the book. We've >> we've had a lot of positive comments and um the only negative comments were things like, "Hey, my uncle Joe did this in town. Why isn't he in the book?" And >> you knew that from the beginning. >> Yes, we knew that from the beginning.
And that's okay. Uh we did our best. uh uh and uh and hopefully uh uh somebody somebody else may write volume two or something like that someday along the line. So that'll be fun. Um the only other thing I want to mention is um a
concern that I have and I I talked to Linda about it. Um the um outside the front of town hall is a beautiful historic veterans monument. It is fabulous. It was put together with a
lot of thought. Um it's a place where benches where contemplative thought can be had person go there and sit. When people drive by town hall they can see this beautiful memorial and when we have our Memorial Day parade that's where it
concludes where people gather where there are speeches where people remember. We have we have had we have a picture in this book of probably a hundred veterans there in front of that monument which was which is great. By the way, we're going to have a copy of
that made a big big copy made. We're going to donate it to the veterans agent down here. So, that's that's coming up. Well, the town put up a sign there and that's bad enough, but they put this
light that blinked that you know like you you know like um you know like >> I saw it on the way and I came down the street and I was like what the bloody hell is that? >> Exactly. You know you know transfer station
clothes. Transfer station clothes >> and it's green and red too. And I was like I literally that was the first time I saw it. But I on the way in here I was like what the >> if if I took all those vets in that picture >> if they like the fact that they put a
sign right out front that has an ungodly blinking light on it. The sign is bad enough, you know, and would you like it moved? I bet every single one would say absolutely sign should be moved. I don't care where the hell they put it. But that is a horrid place for it to go. And
I feel bad, you know, because last Memorial Day we were there and it was beautiful and it was just God, it was it was just >> When did they put that there? Because >> Yeah. Well, after months ago, >> there's been a sign out there for the town buildings.
>> Yeah. >> Now, I think all they did was like tack the digital thing like across the bottom of it. >> It looks like they put it in front of the monument. Where was the sign before? >> There shouldn't be a sign.
>> It was there, but the sign was always there. It was just like a hanging >> painted sign. >> Yeah. >> And but it was completely unobtrusive. And >> now they've like >> these like >> why couldn't they put a sign on the town
hall say Kingston town hall right on the building like most town halls do? >> I think it does have one as Then why do we need this ridiculous thing out the >> walk know and drive it by where it is. But I mean they don't need the big bright flashing sign.
>> Yeah. >> I think they would get more use out of that if they put it like up at the dump. >> Exactly. Do you know what I mean? >> Well, there's one up there, but it's not red and green. >> Yellow. >> Yeah, that's true. >> But you're right, Tom. But maybe we can get them to take the lights off because that's the
>> be changed. I I I think the blinking one is set up because they changed the way people are notified of emergencies. So I think they were trying to get people's attention to get online and change what you're doing. So I don't I don't think it has to blink. >> Yeah.
>> So that why can't they bring it down the hill on the left hand side or something? You'll see it down there. Not in front of this is this is very important. Extremely important. It's a memorial. >> But if the sign was there before they
built the memorial, it's not a very good argument. >> I don't I don't remember. >> Yeah, there was a >> There's always been a sign there, but it did flash and light up. >> It was not the same sign. I'll I'll find the picture. We'll take a look at it next time.
>> But uh it's uh to me, >> what are they what were people thinking? Who's who's in charge? You you have to be a total dot, you know. >> Well, in any event, I was shocked. I'm shocked by it. So, >> that's me.
>> Well, I was too when it first come around when first time I saw that. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Well, >> it's funny. I wasn't going to say anything. That was the first day I was hell. >> Yeah. I would like a discussion on it the next week. Welcome to Reno,
Massachusetts. >> Right. >> No. >> Oh, >> the memorial committee. No, I just um >> Oh, it was Linda. >> Linda was on >> the approach the people that are on that committee,
>> see what they think about it. >> Yeah. >> You know, as a start. >> Oh, sure. Absolutely. And those people work very hard and boy I'll tell you it's a gorgeous thing. >> All right that it all right next meeting
is at uh second Wednesday when what's >> that uh holy Wednesday? I don't know if anybody does anything in particular. That's Holy Week. >> Easter Sunday.
>> Oh, no. Actually, it might be after the >> No. >> Okay. I think Easter's like the sixth or something. >> Maybe the fifth fifth was a Sunday. >> Maybe >> the You mean Easter? I think it's the next weekend. >> The fifth.
>> Is it the fifth? >> It's the weekend before. Yep. >> Yeah. Okay. I was like, it's really early this year. >> Really? I guess it is. >> All right. So, we'll do the 8 6:30.
>> Very good. All right. John, I'll be talking to you about the cemetery then. We'll go. >> Great. Yeah, we'll we'll uh take a walk up there with the snow. It's cold again. >> All right. We need a motion. Sounds like a pass favor. All right. All
right.