Being 4:30 on May 7th, I'll call the sewer commissioners meeting to order. Elaine I, Bill Watson, I Brian D. I Okay, we'll start off with um update from superintendent while I pass out.
We're gonna pass out some some more documents. So, um we had our new employee start this week. Everything's going well so far. Yeah. Our employee that's out on injury, we hear he's going to get assessed next
week and hopefully he'll be back. Couple other items. the uh BFD that failed a couple weeks back. The person that
representative sold us the BFD um they said it'd be about $6,000 to come in and look at it. I found someone that will change the components and get it up run up and running for that same amount. Oh wow. So hopefully uh I gave the approval
yesterday those parts and hopefully they'll be in shortly. Um they're not coming from China. Hopefully. Yeah. Who knows where they're coming from. But if they can fix it for what the other companies said, they would just come in the door and say yes. Yeah.
For that same Europe. So yeah, it is crazy. Uh, a couple things that came up just in the last 24 hours. Um, there's
a person down in Manuk looking to add an ADU on their property and the plans that came across my desk are looking at two bedrooms on the ADU. Which the original house is three
bedroom five bedroom. So they wanted to know what the costs were and I went through our rules and regulations. I think you and I discussed in the past 11,000 for an addition per per bedroom where located I don't know
this one is Cedar Street sevenseater is that seven seed in the in the so they under the phase one phase two phase one four bedroom for three. Yeah. So that that but they're going apart. So that would be under our current rules right
now 11 the 11 I told them I'd get confirmation on it. Okay. Um which is very reasonable. Well yeah and just so Brian what we did is um we grandfathered in four bedrooms
and allow basically four bedrooms for phase one. Um and then anything over the four would be um $11,000 per bedroom. Yeah, at this time. Yeah, I I think there's three things I soon as came
first are a great idea. Hate to be slowing them down. Keeping the old number. We haven't assessed the new number, right? I think policy wise we might want to think about this. Anyone who's already on keeping it closer to the it's not going to be a lot of them,
but keeping it closer to the the old number. You know what I'm saying? So that's consistent. But any any new house, it's all different, right? But well that that's what the 11,000 based on is three. I mean that's very fair. Just think it's such a policy kind of question and we're
u we don't want to stop something like that. That's a very it's economically for the family. It's a great thing and uh I don't know if they have a water issue but it's another problem. My problem.
Yeah that sounds I think that's a great idea. Okay. And then we can Yeah. And um whatever they do would would be under the current rules. Uh so whatever we may change next week, I would say, you know, they'd still be under the parent. Yeah.
I think we should make sure we have a little niche out for that particular unique circumstance. So we don't mix apples and oranges. Yeah. Yeah. And that's something I think once we get through this hurdle of the leeching field issue. Yeah. Then we should probably look at our policies and
procedures, rules and regulations again just to kind of close up a lot of items that haven't been looked at in a while. Exactly. Okay. Um Oh. Um got another inquiry on 200 Main
Street. Um, currently right now 200 Main Street is where you start coming off of Summer and head up towards the station right at that intersection of Maine and Summer. We go up to 198 and 199 post 200 is up
on Main Street. So they were asking if we have any anticipated time frame that that area would be sewed. I told him at this point there's nothing I know of in the immediate future. So I just wanted to get we at
that point. This is at the point they called the point right? Are you heading towards all the churches? Yeah. Yes. Um would love to go up that street. I was showing Dave and and Dean the other day that's on the phase that came
out of the TMDL report which is what started all this anti it started I as I look back this is what started all the people want not to have leech encouragement that was well and and then so my question would be if we go to 198
what would it take for what would it cost to go to 200 you know is that how how where's the stuff on the their property liner. Right now they don't have a Yeah, we have to take it. No, I mean Well, where where's the Where does ours end? Well, there's got to be a
manhole at the end of that that run, right? Well, I think right now the way that um street comes up and Maine goes up that way. I think our line just does this and I think house 198 has dual
frontage. Yeah. Okay. So, I think they come out this way. And then the other house is right here, which probably has a main street address, but probably comes out on some. And where's where's the next right there? Next one up.
So, the this if there's not a manhole like Bill said that the uh the other way to do it would be a uh they're uphill, so it's gravity line, right? No problem that way. So you could put a a 4 in stub like you would normally do and then have
them go down the sidewalk and tie into the other connection and that'd be temporary and someday whenever that is when we do the sewer all the way up they just make the connection at no cost to them. It's just a matter. That's the thing. You know,
that would be the simplest way to do it. And it's about only 50 or 60 ft at the most once you get out to the street, right? They put a manhole right at that intersection. There is one out here on three on 3A. Yeah. So,
they actually kind of out to it. You don't want to go We wouldn't want to go digging into 3A. We can help it. Well, that's I see what you're saying. You possibly come into house 198 collateral with a Y. Exactly. And then you're not taking up 3A. We're not getting all that
mess. And then it's it's a temporary probably 10 year temporary but temporary connection. We get the betterment. We get the you know the flow and and then it sets up a the fact someone's asking to get in it to me is that the biggest thing we can go. We just Sure. And
there's been some houses on Shirley and Maple been asking lately, too. That's keep a list. These are these are things that keep a list. I mean, yeah. If it's not an immediate thing that we're going up there, they're going to have to put in septic system. So, it's it's a
becomes a timing issue. But what I can propose to them is, you know, coming in discussing some options. Yeah, I think that's a good idea. And if we can, I mean, there's nothing stopping us right now. If we get if we get just six or seven or
10 or 15 people that want to do it, right? Good. You'd have to get you'd have to get you'd have to get a lot of people to volunteer to volunte. But, you know, I think the the message the fact that someone's coming in in voluntarily to ask, that's a really good
sign to me. Um, so maybe it's like as Wolf said several times, we're open for business. Let's we get there's a lot of people on Main Street I've heard that want that sewer and they're frustrated. Particularly when you go further up like Maple A goes down all the way down the
river. They have septic systems. They are really they've failed. Um, you know, even if they see if they failed, then we have to wait five or six years. Whatever. It t it takes time, but at least that would put them on the list with water health to say you can't have a failed septic
system, but you can fix it enough just to keep it going like a minor maintenance type of thing and we'll we'll expedite the sewer and you know, won't be the three of us maybe, but who knows? But I mean, it's just to get it if the more people that say we want it
as opposed to we're going to put it down there, you have to hook up, it's a whole different thing. And and maybe that's it. Once we get get past this, yeah, we send out letters, you know, to is there any interest on Main Street, you know, not that we're gonna we're going to initiate it, but if there's enough
interest, maybe I don't know. I just happen to bring this. Well, then the thing is is once you once you're going to meet up that street, everybody's going to be tired. That's why it'd be interesting just to do a like a straw poll like are there two
people out going up there and let's say there's 100 houses 50 want to tie in on the main the other 50 you don't have to tie in but they don't have to tie in but they have to put they have to pay the benefit but it was a board of health regulation. Yeah. If it won't buy you
out title five says buy your house you can keep your septic system long as it doesn't fail. So it just starts to fail. You got to hook up. Yeah, we can. It's something to talk about. I mean, not gonna solve it in one
night, but but to at least people are Yeah. much better. Interesting. I love it. It's we want to join the better than that neighbor getting these from the other neighbor down the side of his honey property. Yeah. Although I know
the nicest nice fences, they really tight houses. You get an easement to run across the other guy's property and stuff to him. If you stay in the if you stay in the in the street sidewalk, then that we own these at the town, right? That makes it kind of takes away
any kind of difficulty that a neighbor might have or cost they would have. But going just the last point going the sewer all the way down the sidewalk on that part of Main Street the main street sew it's it's a disaster that whole sidewalk is like 1940s version. So if
you went down the sidewalk and then you directionally drill under the highway under route three I mean 106 you that that saves cut through making the connections. I mean there's a million ways to do it now that we didn't have before.
Um, other than that, uh, Brian and I went to the Leech table this morning to discuss the punch list of items that need to be dealt with with CNC. CDM was on site. We discussed they're going to look into some seating [Music]
us issues that we have up there. Some of the seeds haven't quite taken place yet. They haven't started sprouting up. There was some wash out during the winter and potentially some of the seed wash away. So, we're looking at some solutions to
deal with the seeding issues. We'll probably get some information by the end of the week. Yeah, they have to do some within the next week. They have to fix it within the next week. Um some other issues wash out due to the rain. They're going to address those issues in the next week or so. And then some potholes
up on Country Club. They're going to seal those up. and um couple of manholes that we had put the asphalt on for plows to ride over them this winter. Then some of the asphalt got beaten up. So they're going to replace
that to something else. The manhole on a Smith last one we have that intersection with the lights down it. Yeah, the top. Yeah. Haven't driven over it lately. I saw it a couple weeks ago and it's pretty It's really bad. I
watch I was sitting next to it. Watched the car ride right over the top of it and a 4 inch drop this wag three to three inch drop and that one and the other one a little further down. You have a cold patch or
Yeah. Um I'm trying to work with um Sean. He was going to get a list of manholes that need to be that first one. The second one for I'll put I don't know if you guys I'll put it
temporary cold pad is that manhole have to be raised you know reseal reset is no no not yet it's down where you can see the the metal rim the concrete underneath the gas ball where they originally put it in the gap it's all gone okay it hasn't settled yet but I
think if they keep hammering Oh yeah on the concrete won't be long it's going to get worse and I I'm surprised that the person that went through it didn't lose up Yeah, they say too some of the salt has just eaten away the concrete that's holding everything together. So once
that disintegrates and starts falling apart concrete I put around those patches is really not very strong concrete is meant just to hold the thing from moving. But when the soft gets in, it's not good until you line somebody up to go out and actually fix it something
just Yeah, there's a few on Evergreen that Sean talked to me about about three weeks ago on and he did mention something on Smith Lane and they actually came out the state came out around that like three weeks ago. It's actually their property
but it's our man. Yeah. Yeah. On this lane that Yeah. Once you get past Frank Street Yeah. But that they own that's their problem. But we can throw something in that. Yeah. They they came in three weeks ago and obviously it didn't hold. So we may end up having to
raise a frame of the cover concrete and patch it. I'll talk to Sean about anybody anybody that lives in the town knows to either straddle it. Oh yeah. Go on the inside. You must do it too. Don't drive over it. Another thing I
would add to your enlisted health agent took a tour with Dave around treatment plan. Oh, okay. It went very well. Very well. And she's on board with understanding how, you know, if we have a line that runs in front of the property that, you know,
they shouldn't be tying a new septic system in, we should be tying. So, we covered a lot of bases. Okay. And she actually had some uh presentation done by Mass Maritime a week ago. U what a great presentation.
It was absolutely phenomenal. So it was three of the cadets were doing their final presentation, their forget what they call it. It's kind of like ais thesis paper. Yeah. And what they did is they took the town of Kingston and they
set up a scenario that we're going to get this hurricane that's going to come through. And they talked about, you know, five to seven days prior to it landing in Kingston, what do you do for prep? Then two days prior, what do you
do? Then when it lands, what happens in the scenario is 150 plus mileph winds, loss of electricity, a 12 foot extra high tunnel title search, uh, and all different scenarios. And the police
department was there, fire department, waste, water, facilities, health department. And each one took him to a, you know, sat at a different table and added, you know, to the questions. What would you do if it was, you know, police
related? Uh, what do you expect? What if it's fire department taking people out of their houses with the the flooding of um wastewater department? They had the scenario that the Jones River pump
station generator failed and water inundated the station and we had bypass an overflow situation. So it was very realistic. Oh wow. That almost happened too. Yeah. So, and that's that kind of helped on my
end having a discussion because we actually had to bypass that station this past year to do the air relief valve replacements up up in the golf course on each way. So, I already had experience of bypassing the station to begin with.
So, having a plan ready to go, it it was already in place. So, it's very inspirational to see these young kids coming out of school thinking about these things and they're going into like the disaster preparation. Oh, wow. Good for them.
There is hope for the future. Yep. If there will Okay. Um, have you heard anything more on um anything with the water or any part of um moratorium or anything? No, no
discuss. I know I know they're discussing it. They had a meeting last night, but I haven't heard any news on what came executive session with us that Okay. Um we're going to talk high level
different um scenarios for next week. So we're not you know going in um without any background but I want to have um Jeie explain she's been talking she's reached out to division of local services and department of revenue on some questions. So if you just want to
fill everybody in on what you found out. Okay. Um so Kelly Donado from DOA um left me a voicemail also sent me attachments um and she's saying um on page eight which question
about the special assessments. Okay. um the time frame when special assessments must be bailed after completion date um aren't included in this time frame, but she sent um a case a state case that um had the ruling
on it and she said and agreed that the six to eight months is a reasonable time frame for us to do the special assessments. on both the real estate and um the real estate it'll be six months and the utility six days no imple in imple to
implement that's what they're saying our wait period should be or reasonable wait period reasonable time to put the assessment onto the accounts that then that means what we're doing timewise we'll meet that yes if you wait
we won't meet it correct to make sure that then the allocation of the remaining $1.6 million. Um, Kelly stated that the remaining $1.6 million could be used for any lawful
purpose with an explanation. Can a very Okay. So, why don't you put that to put that in an email and send it to us and and copy Kathleen and Keith and just so
we're all on the same page. Um, so it would sound like that the 1.6 if we, you know, based on she's DO or Department of Revenue. Okay. So, and the Division of Local Services had the same opinion.
Yes. Uh but they wanted you to check with DOI, right? So Ryan from the um from DO said that he's just the attorney. Yeah. So that's why we had me go to Kelly and gave that information
because she's on the financial side and he's more on the legal. And if I remember, you said that one of his comments was because we had already used 1.6 6 million to pay the ban that it would be he felt it would be appropriate
but check with the financial side and then Kelly Donado said um it we can use it for lawful purpose with an explanation. Okay. And you have that as an email in writing you said perfect. That's
we're done. Well, she's I have a email um of what she sent to me and also a voicemail. So, okay. So, with that being said, the first page of this packet,
um, I'm just looking at FY26 Leechingfield debt and I show that the amount uh, we need less than 137 from town meetings vote leaves the balance and if we divide
it by the existing EIUS, it would be $102 for the year. Then the second scenario shows if we took $100,000 from the 1.6 million
one point one and a half million 150,000. Yes, that the back sheet does show 150, but now you're saying 100 in addition to the one in addition to Okay, because
it's actually 53. So the the third page from the back, not the third. Let me see. One, two. The third the third sheet in the packet. Dave shows 150 with 4%
interest. And then the draw down we that would give us 15 years. I just did 153 because right now $53,000 is paying the apartments's share
per year. So if we had increase that by another hundred to offset the leeching field debt um with interest that would last 13 years and then I have the third scenario
is if we if we don't earn any interest on the 1.6 that's in the in the kitty the and we still draw down 153,000 that would last 10 years. Robert, but we're we're really looking
at somewhere somewhere in the next six years short term, right? In the next five to six years, we're selling off the rest of the fourth thing. That's what I would think. And then see two different races going on at the same time, but each time we're ahead of the game,
right? Yeah. Right. So I mean if if you know if we draw it down for 10 years without interest I mean and and nothing's changed then there's more problems than just the sewer department because that means there's absolutely no
growth whatsoever in town right so that's just go back to the first point so with this information do both the fin the municipal side and the do you know that both sides of
legally. This seems to address what Keith and Kathleen's concern were about being able to have free cash um approved. That was their I thought that was their big point the other day. I have no clue about that. But right,
this puts that issue away. Right. It does. But when I had talked to Ryan from the do he even said is this because of having free cash certified is that so that was his assumption as well
that had to do something with the certification of free cash. So that's why they were hesitant and they addressed with the second opinion um that is addressed. So we're pretty solid on that point. I just want to make sure you know we had a good discussion. It
was new stuff that we're addressing that and now we're going forward with kind of where we were a while ago. And I think part of the the the concern as well is us drawing down too much too soon. That makes sense. Which is understandable.
We're just in a weird situation that none of our doing. No. Okay. By drawing 100,000 a year in addition to the 53. Yes. So overall being around 150 it would put us
out 15 years. Yes. That with you have 4%. Gotcha. Worst worst case worse worst case. It's 10 10 years. I mean that's if we can't figure this out in two years, right? I sorry I interrupted you as you were
going down. So you're saying first scenario will be $102 a year, right? Added to the bill, right? And the second scenario is 64. Yes. And that's using $100,000 in addition to the 53. Uh I'm
okay with that from the 1.6. Yeah. So this is these are the scenarios that I will bring forward next week. Right. But I would like to see that additional fee put in as a service fee on our service fee on top of it because we could change
that anytime we want. Reduce it. That's a good point. We're all looking. Absolutely. There's no special assessment. There's no betting into being titled to the It's just part of the bill and and that's it for next week's meeting. Um we can do pro I'll do
pro and con of a special assessment on the real estate bill and then um an increased fee on the utility bill, lot of sewer bill and then we can make a you know a decision next week. Okay. But
yes, the the utility side would be flexibility that we could change. Um that the the com complexity and it's not complex once it's set up. Um we I believe the approach that we're looking at is still
doing it by EIUS. So if you're a single family home, you're not paying what the mall would pay for the fee. Um, so that would just make more codes in the implementation. Like a single I'm making it up. Single family home would be code
one, but the 150 EUs would be code 150. Making it up. Okay. So, yeah, because so the 64 would be basically for one eru. Correct. And then if you had two of them, it would double that. Yes. Three, double that. Correct. Triple. So that
would be so will we add that to the service or will we have a se a separate service fee specifically for that on that bill? We can discuss what's the best appro I'm going to say just for the way you said I'm going to say probably a separate one. Yes. Because it's based on EIUS.
Exactly. You know so so if you have one you're going to see that 60 you know you're going to see your regular 42 plus 64 or 64. Right. I got you. I got you. And then that's what would be based on. Yeah. I think the way you did uh with
these guys made it flexible. That's like the key thing because we you can only be a one year thing. You know, we can maybe do it 10 years. We get to go, but it's it's the flexibility is the best thing that could happen. Yeah. And which brings you to your third example, right?
Because your third example doesn't have the 137 correct contribution on it. the right the third example I have FY27 leeching field debt um that doesn't take into consideration town meeting uh
voting again for the third so every year give the flexibility the town meeting to help out with it right it could be as low as $64 or as high as 120 and the only the only issue there is the change
but That's a whole lot worse problem. A lot better problems I should say than it's an easy number we can come up with. Yeah, this is perfect. And it goes by that year's debt. It would go by that year's debt. So this is much more real.
We can at least explain it. So that represents two3 right there. Looks like we have to divide. Yes. Okay. And but they're still paying a third in their tax bill, but they don't just they don't get a C. Correct. It's
not everybody, right? It's it's just because you're It'll come out of a of the um cash bucket, right? Not too harsh. So the core number
was the way we ended up going. That'd be 16 per. Well, and that's another conversation where vet we're working with Stacy mo mostly Jeanie, but um there's some properties that don't
get built four quarters, seasonal properties, things like that. So, you know, do we just build for two quarters? Do we Is there a flag or something? You can say you're not getting a bill, but you're going to get one for the service fee. You know, the
the little processes. Yeah. That's that'll be some other things. And um so that's whether it's four quarters, two quarters, three quarters. Just even the seasonal still getting the service fee. No. So with the service fee, if the
water is shut off at the street, they don't get charged a service fee. Oh, interesting. If the water is turned off, but it's still at the house, then they get the quarterly fee, but it has
to be set off at the street. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. Because if they're servicing the service, it's a flat fee for you or not. Makes total sense to me. And they can lock they can lock the road box. They can lock the road based on just like
that's the it's a flat rate that they come up with. That's what they said. I talked to if they leave the house abandoned without it shut off the curb stop, it's potential that could freeze and be
running all winter. Oh, somebody vandalizes the house and million different scenarios. If it's off the street, it that can never happen. and hours of water. I'd say that's really is seasonal that we don't we don't send them a bill or they don't get a bill at
all for service. What the there's no water. My house I turn it off at the street for the winter. Yeah. I don't get I only get four bills. I'm sorry. I only get three bills out of you once attack occupied. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, so they've just decided
that the way they're doing is if nothing reads and no one's using anything that they could build that Yeah. I'm going to guess it's probably because it's just how the software works, right? But but I just thought the service fee was to pay for like office
staff and that was basically we using to pay for our staff upgrades or whatever. Yeah. The only reason that would change If everybody went on vacation, we'll figure it out. Yeah. So, so just so the the behind the scenes there, if
we went this approach, there'd be multiple codes. Okay. So, count the the number of EIUs. Another thing that helps me anyway put this into perspective. If you look at these three scenarios, if you did it by quarters,
it's 2550 for the top one, 16 for the next one, or 2975. It's an additional fee, but it's relatively small when you break it up into quarters. It's just a lot between our bills
increasing. Yes. Um taxes, everything. It's just um but our our goal is is temporary. So yeah, I was kind of figuring out the math on the future what was left over
865. We haven't sold yet. Yeah. You know, if you break that down the entire cost of the $8 million, what's that? $10,000. 865 time 10,000 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So, if you're going to charge them fee, that 10,000 that's there and the little 13,000 on top of it, that's 23 or 24ish. And that's that's you know, anyways, it'll pay you'll pay it off. It'll pay the debt off at some decide to be
aggressive. Exactly. And that's what the the second page shows. This is again uh Leeching Fields debt. the um 6 million6 is the project cost. Uh fif the million5 is interest and admin fees. So the total
project cost that we have debt on is 8 million2. Yeah. divide that by um existing and potential um u
um the leeching fields would cost $2,300 per EIU if we're just looking at debt over 20 years because that's the term of the loan be $119 per year. Where is it 23? I don't see is this on page two? Yes, second
page. I'm seeing 23 2371. Oh, I thought you said $23. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I got it. So, and then this the underneath that just shows if um you paid it in full if this So, this is the approach of
a betterment. The first page is the approach of um on the utility bill. So um and then just below all of that is just breaks out the construction services, the interest, the admin. So
this is these calculations are all focusing on just leeing code in this package. The first two is the leeching field, the first three is the leeching field, right? And then um the fourth page is just showing you the debt. The page after that is our total
debt which is the plant expansion and the leeching fields is uh 22 million. The admin fees of half a million. Then when you add in the interest it's $31 million of debt. If we
have that paid by the potential additional EIUS, the 865, um that would be $36,000 for EIU over 20 years. And then again at the bottom, I
just have a paid price. So, um, if we get to a point where there's there's that much additional flow coming in, um, the additional capacity would pay our debt.
So, that's not just not just the vending fees, but just the usage fees as well on top of that, right? You'd get additional money for that. So, this would pay the leeching field and the plant expansions debt, right? So um just looking so should is part of
our hearing I think it is but just make sure to establish a new betterment going forward for new services correct and is this the number you're this is the minimum
because this would this would just and it's a it's a starting point because that would cover the debt 36,000 um if we wanted to include um you know some capital costs in that future capital costs and we can
come up with a number that we think is think about this before the next meeting. Yeah. With the hearing meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Because that I think that's where we have to go. We can't be just going to minimum. One of the one of the from a as a a town council said one of the points I'd like to get a number on
this is probably pretty easy for these guys is just what have we taken out of our bank account to pay debt out of either free cat whatever those numbers all that stuff if it's a million or $2 million over the last
several years put that back in here divide the same way so that you know what I'm saying so we have a justification for we never should have been taking money out of the betterment sideway to pay this these operational costs. So let's put that in
there. Yeah. And I think I did it before is is just under 40,000. Okay. And then you add a little bit more round it off kind of thing um for other capital just that that's how I'm thinking but it it gets us in the $40,000 range and we
can always go up again as we get further down escalation of money all that kind of stuff. not wait 10 years or 15 years to do it, you know. Yeah. Every four or five years. Yeah. We make an adjustment and even every year. All right. This is really good. Quick
question. Are we allowed? You have people You have companies are coming in and they're putting in 300. It's a commercial entity. It's a business. Yeah. Not a residential thing. You're allowed to charge different rates on veterans fees based on what their
entity is. the other end, you know, it's commercial industrial, if it's a commercial business or resident residential neighborhood, we can check into that. Yeah, I know. My uh my experience with this is you can't Okay,
that's I guess you can't do it. You've probably seen it. And the reason why we have you have to come up with a unit rate, whatever that is. We establish it at EU. Yeah. Okay. If we had done something that's more on what you're talking about, then you could have flexibility. So, in order to go a
different direction, you have to come up with a whole different mathematics. Yeah. To do that now. But the number of potential commercial properties we're going to get into are limited. I mean, I look at as couple of these maybe 40B the
mall and maybe some things on Route 3A that are now we're open for business. They'll they want a bigger thing. Yep. But if you go back to this number, you think about it in EU, if it's a residential, the EU is going to go up because it's more applicable, right?
Whereas you go to commercial, they're actually it drops. It actually drops in terms of by the restaurant by seat. Yeah. square footage. So, it gets tricky really. What I'm saying is having gone through there a bunch of different it gets really complicated, tricky, and
ends up not doing you any favors. So, sticking with that that unit cost, it's very defendable, been used for 25 26 years now. No one can argue that it's long. No. And in fact, if anything,
people got a good break maybe a few years ago, but we also didn't have anything we couldn't expand. So we were basically because like the mall they got all those apartments up there. They're making a fortune and they they
they paid very little because they don't have to do anything with their their subject waste. We're taking care of it for them for you know user fee and those those apartments one bedrooms they're not using 110 gallons a day. Yeah. And they're that because of the water
restrictions they put out. If I remember correctly the apartments are 150 EUs. So that it was a big number. Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. Goes it actually works out. Um but they got it at a at a bargain rate too. Yeah. Yeah.
If you I mean they make it out on the cheap because they don't have they don't have to run a treatment plan. Right. Exactly. Exactly. It helped them and helped us at the time we needed it. Yes. But think of the number. Think of the number thinking the how
many units? 150 150 * 40 6 million bucks versus 3.2. Yeah, they paid half of it. Yeah, but I'm just saying that's we're fixing we're fixing it. We're
going to fix it. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. But they'll be paying they'll be contributing because they're users and they'll be and they're going to be contributing to the leeching in that same stream plant they had up there. I had the report it was going to be four and a.5 million to upgrade it
for what they wanted to do for what they wanted to do. So for their point of view, business point of view, what a good deal. Yeah. Even at six million it was going to be even to pay the user fee still going way cheaper than three million. Oh so that's that's it. And the pages after
that um the la the the fifth page well the second to last page is just showing um the plan expansion debt you know after the mass works grants and all of that um that's the debt and then uh the
last page is just showing how I arrived at the EIUS so not have anything to say a Mark, you there on the subject of U. There you go. I just had a question
about whether or not I could get a copy of that some point. Sure. I have your email, Mark. I'll send it to you. Thank you very much, Lane. You're welcome. And this is just drafts, Mark. We're voting next week. Yeah, that's what I
figured. Thanks. Yep. What time is our meeting? 6:30. 6:30. J. Did you do you feel that you want to post another meeting at 6 o'clock just before that for us? Is there anything we might want to discuss
prior to that? Yeah, it doesn't hurt. Then your discretion for you guys if you feel that there's something we need to talk about just before even if we just have a regular half hour meeting and not have one the week after. Okay. Yeah. All right.
Because we've been meeting like every week. We have I love you guys. I miss you. Go away. Right. call. So, FaceTime. So, this will be pretty much the the base for next week. Yeah.
I'll do close and call like I said with the betterments and the utility bills. Um and we'll just have handouts for everybody. Everybody's going to get together and get this over get over the story. Yeah. Things up. Yeah. And that's it. I mean, there's there's things out
there that um could very well be in the pipeline as long, you know. Well, that's I'm hoping I'll try to stress getting this resolved before our meeting that we want to talk to. Yeah. That'll be a whole different dimension
on some of what we're talking Yeah. Okay. Anybody have anything else? No. If um if we ran into any resistance just for planning purposes on the 1.6 60 news when we come out of that meeting
next week. We have two options or do we have to go with one option and that's it? Um we I don't see why we can't have two options. We vote, you know, in this scenario, we'll do this. If not, we'll do that. Um just to have that flexibility because, you know, nothing's
been easy about this process so far. Yeah. And uh to that point um when we're not going to you find out for next meeting when um this would go on if we do the we know if
it's the real estate bills it would be for July. If it's the water bill, what building would that be on? And when would Tracy's deadline be? If we um do the two quarters, it would be like the
September January bills, okay, that it would go on. Um and usually by like the 10th of the month, Stacy starts running the report. Okay. So would need to be no later than August 1st. August like 10th. Yeah.
Okay. Because another question I also asked was the um um with real estate it's one property and with like a some there's multip a
property can have multiple water meters depending like maybe the plaza or some of the shops or something like that. So Stacy was looking into that. She hasn't given me the that information to see if she didn't think there was a lot out there. Yeah. to see if there's like a master. Yeah. The guy next to me on
range for he's got three water on one property and that's got five. Okay. And that's where it'll be. How do we assess it? Yeah. Well, the one there's one the old green houses they're not it's not being used to shut off and
he's not being built. The other two he is. So he would get separate building. this too. So I think if we go that way, we'll just have to do some fine tuning of Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Or any any condo
complex. Yeah, those are right. And some are on a master deed and some aren't. So those will be that's what it'll give us some time to find to those. So, um, you're going to MUN training. Yeah.
Saturday. Saturday. Oh, this is what you want to specifically learn. Yes. Yes. That niche. How to create charge codes or whatever they call them in Munas for EIUS. Yeah. Good. Motion to adjurnn. I'll second
that. All in favor? All right.