Let's start the meeting. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> All right, we have a second. Uh we just got um Sean, we've never met uh Tomia
>> and uh I've been blessed to be the chairman for the last few years and um guess that's all you need to know. I just that's that's it. >> How is it possible that you've never met Sean? >> I know. Well, it's probably 15 feet from
your house. >> Oh, it is. Well, I I only use it on the weekends mostly, so it's it's a little tough. And you know, the tides are, so it's not every every time. >> Okay. What? So, you're on the B dock? >> No. So, I'm in the in the river. Um,
it's I think it's 21 maybe as the as the marker, but it's a Sailfish 218 and I had a 18 foot seat before that up the river. And then I also had a McGregor 21 sailboat initially when I first moved to town also. >> Okay. Oh, probably wave going out the river
then. >> Yeah. Next to um Nicole Mashad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I know it now. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Right in the center there. Conveniently avoiding the birds except
for one day the whole season. So, >> it only takes one day to get them messy down there. >> That's for sure. We had a hover master with a gun. Um >> with the air. Uh
so, uh rumor has it you're interested in, uh in our little committee here. >> Yeah. So, I've lived in town a while. Um I'm an attorney with an office in in Ducks in Boston and do a lot of community based things and sit on a
bunch of boards and things. And I think the number one resource the town has is the waterfront and I love it. And sailing my whole life uh you know taught sailing at Hangingham Maritime growing up and when I moved to Kingston I was lucky enough to get on a moing right
away because they had just added all the slips and I was like this is amazing here. So I just >> you know um know you guys have been doing great things especially with the recent you know um whole renovation down there. I guess there's some more work to do. I was talking to Jared. I was like,
what could we possibly need to do? But I guess there's that idea of maybe raising some things. So, just with my board experience, I want to do some more local work in town here in Kingston. So, I thought it'd be a good opportunity to check it out and see if I can contribute.
>> Um, awesome. uh besides Garrett and myself on the phone uh driving a tugboat or a ship right now is uh Matt Webble and he's on his way through the canal or to the canal and um he lives on Jones River.
>> Very cool. >> He commutes uh back and forth to New York probably what about a month at a time that >> Yeah. I thought that was a background not a uh a real image here. That's pretty cool. >> Yeah. No, that's a live shot. this man. >> I can switch the camera back here for a
second so I introduce myself. >> There he is. >> How you doing? >> Hey, good, thanks. How you doing? >> Good. >> Uh, tell us your job. I'm sure there's downsides, but uh pretty much >> And we have one other member, uh, Mike
Ellis. Uh, you may know him. He's, uh, pretty much right where your boat is uh going toward the nook. >> So, yeah, >> we might have run into each other. There's a lot of uh hellos and you know, pleasantries down there, but I haven't chatted with too many people.
>> Yeah. >> And uh yeah, Mike's been around he's been on the committee as long as I have. >> Nice. >> But uh he is a software salesman. I believe he does for healthcare for Medit. So his territory is the Northwest
Passage, but he has Oregon, Washington, and Alaska. >> Oh, yeah. So he's out there a lot and he's traveling this week. So um he makes as many meetings as he can, but >> yeah. So this time he can't make it in.
Um, so basically we have a kind of a short agenda, but we're going to kind of uh we have a couple of new things that I'm going to go over tonight and um it's actually a kickoff to what you just
said is uh phase two of the ADIA. Um so we got to go through that tonight as well. So I guess first we'll just do the prior minutes. Um, I didn't see any changes except for one question. Was
time at 8 o'clock or 7 o'clock on Saturday? >> Seven. >> Seven. That's what I thought. >> Got it. Um, Matt, I don't know if you got to go through them or you're not uh on Wi-Fi. You got to be on Wi-Fi because here you
are. >> Yeah. I I didn't get a chance to go through them yet, but um sure they're fine. >> Yeah. All right. Um, so just with that one change, um, I'm going to make a motion to accept the
minutes from September. We have a second. >> Second. >> Second. Uh, all in favor? >> I >> I. So, it'll be a 300. >> That's it. Um, we don't have any We try
to get a community input. There's actually um somebody on the call last time who lives on the river. Uh he was just checking in to see what we do, kind of hear about the community that he moved into, but um he's the only one
that's really dialed in for quite a while. Um so nobody else is on the phone right now. Uh we got to try to keep the we got to keep the meeting on Tuesdays. I think this has worked out pretty well for me anyway
as far as beginning and getting everything posted on time uh as opposed to Mondays. I kind of like the Tuesdays. Um and we'll keep it the second week of the month. Matt, how's that sound? >> Yeah, that's fine. I have another
meeting that's the third Tuesday of the month. So, that should be fine. >> Okay. And Sean, how does that work for you? Um, currently my daughters have a lacrosse commitment, so I could definitely attend because I will be in the car like transport them back from
uh, Union Point to Kingston, so I can attend by Zoom. Um, and if if that I mean I prefer to be in person. I'm an inerson person person like I love the inerson meetings, but you know, that's going to end eventually and I I think I should be able to make more inerson stuff, but I definitely am available
during that time. Don't have work or anything like that. So, >> um, as far as I know, there's a small process that you have to do. Um, I think you have to fill out a one-page application. >> Yeah. >> First name, last name, address, phone
number, and your interest of the waterfront. Go to the selectman's meeting, not meeting, uh, office, sign it, drop it off. Okay. Make a recommendation that you join or we're in favor of it. And um I think the
selectman just vote based on our uh recommendation. >> Understood. And I know that um when you're dealing with a committee, we don't know each other. So if you wanted to meet up, talk uh get together some other way outside of this this me. I'd be happy to do that. Um just from
different boards I've been on, like it's usually a good idea. Um you know, I think I'm great, but you don't know that yet. Um you know, all those things. It's just important, I think, to assess assess me as a potential candidate here. So, I'm happy to to meet up or a phone call, whatever's easy for you.
>> I appreciate that there might be an opening here that I can help out with. So, I'm very, but I'd love >> Yeah, I work from home, so I'm usually I'm always available. >> All right, sounds good. >> to do whatever. So, >> okay, >> good.
Uh, before we get into the meet harbor master report, do talks out Saturday at 7. box Saturday at 7. Everybody got their boats out except for two kayaks and a dingy. Can't figure out who owns those. >> Kayak's mine.
>> The yellow one. >> Oh, the yellow one's yours. >> Sorry. >> You're on the slip. >> I was across the room. >> Yeah. Um, do you know whose red one that is? >> You know who inflatable that is?
>> No. It's a nice inflatable one. >> It is. And I'm thinking of doing the same thing Desper does. >> Tom Kingston. >> Open it. Open it up. They they put them all out for free. >> Auction it up. >> They they just take them and throw them
in a pile and you know, obviously not right away, but come January 1 and they say anybody wants them, they're there, go get them. One thing I'd be >> looking to help with is maybe add some um communication
for people that are current, you know, holders or slip holders. Um even just like an email list at least a good example of something you could easily do um to have everyone's information. So it's like, hey, who's is this? Come get it. You know, that sort of thing might might make uh time your job a lot
easier, too. Then again, these list serves can be something where people, you know, run with it a little too much. So there's pros and cons. the communication thing, but um maybe you already have all that info, but it'd be great, I think, to have some sort of a community forum sort of a you know,
ability to even just like other other areas will be like, "Oh, I'm selling this boat." And they'll post something, sure, down at the at the place paper, but they'll they'll just send it out over list serve or something, too. So, there might be some opportunity for more understanding of who your neighbors are, you know, out there.
We have a website and we have all that stuff, but nobody seems to pay any attention to it. >> Rules and regulations that nobody seems to pay any attention to and all that stuff. >> There comes a time that I just go, you know what? I'm done.
>> Well, it wouldn't be your job. You know, it could be Yeah, I hear you. I'm just thinking, you know, I think it's a well-run place for sure. It wasn't a criticism. It was more just, hey, this could be a good thing just a list serve even just to email everybody. >> Well, uh 18 usually. >> I don't think I've ever communication
unless there's something we're like talking about. Maybe I'm not on the right list or something. Um I know that the website stays up to date like on the town website and of course the postage down at the at the spot is great on River Street like hey we're doing this this day but maybe I'm just out of the
loop for some reason. >> Maybe that that inflatable just no one claims inflatable. Could we use another like >> Yeah. >> talent pender for people to use? >> They all everybody in CL everybody all always says they it's theirs in the
spring and I'm supposed to babysit them all. When they're not there in the spring, everybody wants to know where their stuff went there >> and I' done kind of >> an MS number on it, right? So isn't it searchable?
>> No, nothing. That's There's no MS numbers on anything that it doesn't have a motor on. Kayaks and stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. >> And they're supposed to have a sticker on it. Town sticker and half the time they don't put them on
for it. >> Yeah. >> More importantly to um Yeah. Communication. All right. We'll work on that. Like I said, I didn't even know there was a website. >> Yeah. Anyway,
>> uh I'm going to jump over the grant uh for now for one quick thing. And uh we do have one article on the town meeting in the fall. Uh it's kind of an important one on October 3rd. The engine
on the Parker went kabutz um and has to get replaced. So, just under the the gun, we're going to uh put that it is on the warrant for the fall town meeting, which is next week, >> 28th,
>> the 28th, so two weeks. Two weeks from tonight. Um to replace that engine approximate cost of uh 32,000. I don't know if you get anything more firm or just try to firm that up at time meeting. Uh
>> and we just give back whatever we don't just put it back. >> Put it back in. So, so, uh, it's on the article, it's on the warrant for 32,000. And, um, that way with the town meeting in the fall, it'll be ready to go into spring as opposed to waiting for spring,
which is in May, you don't get the job done until June. So, >> right, >> uh, we were able to push that up. Brian pushed it through. >> And the money comes out of waterways money, >> right? Just kidding. The the town doesn't Yeah, it's you know not money.
Um so what's that? >> Are you presenting it? >> Yeah. >> Yep. You you in favor? >> No. >> No. >> But it's important to say that it makes no difference to the taxpayers. >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> People vote against it.
>> The last one I voted I voted I presented >> it was I forgot what the article was for. Waterways money comes out of the waterways fund blah blah blah. Everybody in the place except for one person voted for it. There's always one. >> I'm like, who is this person?
>> They bundled. >> Yeah. Half the time they bundle them already. >> Yeah. That wasn't bundled. >> Yeah. Um anyway, so uh Sean and Matt, I don't I know you don't know this. Tom and Jared do. Uh last
week um the Hilly administration uh released the coastal communities uh coastal zone management funding and Kingston was on there for
uh a grant for 166,632 to do phase two and not to do phase two to take a look at phase two what we need down there um in changing or upgrading the warf the parking area so it covers
the whole town land and um taking the hover master office off of the stilts replacing the stilts and jacking that up as well. So if we take the if you eyeball it the parking
lot we're going to make a flat for the warf. So, that's going to go up, let's call it 2T, 2 and 1/2 ft. And that'll be level all the way over to where it's dirt now. Um, and make that concrete order we have to do at that point. And,
uh, the harbor master office will go up accordingly, uh, two or three more feet, um, in height. So with the king ties last last week, the water came all the way up to um the top of the seaw wall
there came the top of the warf. I didn't see it any over it, but um >> but there are times that on the king tides with the surge, it'll go to the top of the the pilings. Um part of the grant money, we'll take a look at
uh the the warf which is only I think 11 years old. the piles on silt or whatever. Make sure it's structurally sound so that we can put the additional weight on top of the warf and make it all flat. Uh that's our
ultimate goal. Um to do that, we have to get uh permitting done. So it's going to be a process. We are obviously right at square one. At 3:00 this afternoon, I
got an email from well, one from Val um to hold the time and then the other one from uh coastal zone meeting uh coastal zone management and we're going to kick off this whole process. And
there's got to be somebody on there from Coastal Zone, a couple people from the Woods Hole Group, myself, Matt Panella, Val, and Brian Holmes was invited. I don't know if we're going to just start
with that small group and try to figure out who else to add. Obviously, the most important one for me to include is Tom. Um, so we'll have Tom included in that group as well. Um, but if I remember from my notes and
I did dig them out from Erin in the spring when she presented everything that they wanted to have a work group uh which would include conservation the Woodsole group um she said something about the oyster farmers and we have enough oyster farmers right here in our
group um to uh talk about the needs of uh down there. I don't know if the police and fire department will be included, planning board. So, um I'll find out a lot more next Tuesday at that meeting and we'll keep everybody posted
on what cultural zone is looking for. Um one thing she did say, um there will be informings of the need to reverse the scope. I have no idea what that means. So, I don't know if it's the scope of the project, scope of
the work that needs to get done. I I have no idea, but uh but they want to revise the scope of the grant. So, we'll we'll find out more next Tuesday. >> Well, they're only getting going to get
60,000 >> 16632. >> The last time they needed 320. >> Yeah, >> we're going to have to cut something. >> So, yeah. So, I have no idea what that means. Hopefully, we can do it within the
confines of the grant. Um, and and see what else. >> But this is this grant doesn't cover any construction, right? >> No construction. This is just for everything structurally sound. We can do that. Um, if
they had talked about moving the H master office back, >> which just is crazy. >> Yeah. because that's in the back of the parking lot where you can't see. >> Yeah. >> The safety issue. So, um you know, we we'll find I will find out
more on Tuesday. >> So, stay tuned on that. So, but the good news is we have money um and things will start moving forward. Uh Sean, like I said, what more can be done? We have a
lot more to get done. Um, and you're you're coming in right at the very beginning of it, except for the grant, but at least you're coming in with money in your pocket. So, it's a good way to start. Um, that's all that's all I know right
now. I will know a lot more on Tuesday. And, um, Sean, I'll get your email address, too, so that you get in the loop um, when you get up and running here. So, more to come, but it's good news. We can
work on this stuff during the winter. Um, and they also said something about a site visit. I don't know if it's um coming up soon or whenever, but obviously they have to take a look. Uh, when they had the original or the first meeting, it was all by Zoom and they had
Google Maps. What's that? Where are you? >> Yeah. Um, where was I going? Lost my train of thought. >> Site visit. >> Site visit. Yeah. So, there I had a meeting with coastal zone um, uh, people
from planning board conservation and, uh, they just said, you know, best place for the harbor master office is in the back because the, uh, topography is 5t higher. But if you actually come down there and look, it's flat, you know. So,
um, that's what they need to see and what we need to do. I mean, if it's flat, let's just go up where we're at, but hopefully >> What about adding some height to it? I know that if I think of most hardmaster offices, there's some elevation to them for visibility purposes.
>> Again, yeah. Um, good question. So, if you stand on the walk and you follow that um the parking lot, the new parking lot with your eyes straight over that almost goes just under where the deck is of the hover master office.
>> Yeah. Make this move back. Maybe we can ask to go up or something. >> Yeah, exactly. That's what >> not make like a Tom turret or something like crazy, but just something that is, you know, um even higher, you know, so it's like point. >> Yeah. So if we're going up two, call it
two feet, though the har master office will go up two or three feet as well. So >> okay, >> um that's the goal because we're trying to beat sea level rise, which is the big thing down there. So uh at least I can get my lifetime out of
it. And the selfish, I know, but that's that's all I have for tonight. Uh, any other questions? I will let you guys know what I find out on Tuesday. Um, you know, if we need to put a work
group together or whatever, we see who's interested or what the parameters of the whole grant are. Uh they haven't really released much information except for uh Kingston got the grant and the dollar amount
and uh it is for the war um the parking lot in the building make sure everything is structurally sound to do phase three well the second part of phase two is the actual construction cool stuff to come I
What's that? All new motors. All new darks. >> Yeah. >> New parking lots. >> And we're doing the one the the dock that we just did all the docks and I forgot one. We're going to replace that this year and then the rack next year.
>> No. We hope. We hope. So, so we actually uh Sean, we kind of came up with this fiveyear plan about a year or so ago, maybe two years ago, and we just kind of pecking away at that list.
>> Um, yeah, the new the new docks were important. We got those done. We got the ramp done. >> Uh, the parking lot was a bonus um because we had extra money from the state and uh we're just trying to peck away and make it the the best asset in
town that is. >> It's in there. It looks great down there. Um, >> yeah. >> Has anyone ever brought up um a dinghy dock at an angle where you could like pull the dinghy up out of the water? >> Uh, so that there's not um just like the growth that happens for the various dings down there. You know, like a lot
of other places have this sort of thing where you're it's like slanted. It basically be an extension of the current dock and allow uh dry docking of dingies just by pulling them up on on on the ramp there. >> I've never heard of it. >> No. Maybe I'll show some examples. It
just would be a cool additional feature. Wouldn't be too much extra in cost. Could be could be helpful. I know I'm scraping uh barnacles off off the dingy I have down there this week. >> Thanks for the you know up under the boat, but um >> to voting.
>> Yeah, >> if it's too we don't have to do it. I just was curious if uh >> No, it's a good idea. We're looking for ideas. Uh right now each section of dock that we're replacing is about 11,05 to
$12,000. So it's expensive to uh keep the bonicles off the bottom. >> Fair. Is this aluminum? We're talking about the aluminum portions or >> Yeah, the aluminum. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Everything else seems like wood and it's basically just at an angle and you drag it up onto it and it's
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we can uh put that on the agenda. >> No, no, it's okay. I just was >> on the plan. >> Um, but it's those sort of improvement things that the five-year plan addresses, right? Like just this idea of
how we can make it better. Is that the idea? >> Yeah, exactly. Like we even talked about trying to put pilings in off of the main dock just to really stabilize that. Um, we haven't talked about that for a while because we get all the other
pieces and expenses going. So >> but but it's on X >> maybe. >> I mean could we add that to this coastal scope? I mean they're doing all the work and permitting and potentially putting in pilings for
the master shack. >> I don't think you need permitting for the pilings. >> Okay. Wow. >> They did them in situate without a permit. >> It's just existing. So I I guess Yeah. >> Yeah.
But they would hold the whole dock right the mains the main >> if we could do it >> getting them down in the ground up >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So I talked to Dennis and he said yeah I don't think it's a problem this the
ledge is further out in the river. I could be wrong. He said he walked down at one time. It was like a dead low tide and he just walked down with the legend. >> I talked to the guy that did Mullins Landing. Had a nightmare of a time. >> Is that right? >> They didn't put that many in.
>> Interesting. >> He actually said that before you even really get into it, you're better off doing a pilot. >> Yeah. >> Try one. It's just to see if you can even do it. >> Well, I know they made out of that that new
house. Behind my boat. They put those pylons in, right? >> Just show up. >> Yeah. >> Behind my boat. That new house. That nice new house. >> Oh, Johnson's there. >> Must be. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. A couple. Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Just up top, I think. >> Yeah. But again, it doesn't be as strong as we need it to be. Yeah. We want to be on the river. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because you're going to be out in the river, right? Yeah. Yep. All right. Anybody else have anything?
>> Hey, Matt, you're in a no wig zone, you know. >> Yeah. Right. >> What's the cargo on that? Is that like uh containers or gas or what is that? >> Yeah, this is a gasoline mostly and uh some ethanol.
>> Gotcha. Very cool. I put my uh email in the chat. Jared also has >> All right. >> On next steps, but out loud just um Hagen h agnhlegal.com. So l and then two h's
le eg-l.com. >> Okay, cool. Next meeting is veterans. I didn't find a cousin. >> I don't know if everyone else is, but I try locked. >> Uh will be locked and I'm going to be in London.
>> You can zoom in though. >> I can I'll have a funny accent, too. >> We can do the whole thing by >> But you're I'm assuming you're going on vacation. You don't want to move next month. I'm assuming it's important with the coastal zone.
Yeah. What's the week? Uh the week after. The 18th. I'm coming home. >> I come home the 18th. >> When do you leave? >> The 11th. >> This is November, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Or we can schedule them. >> As long as we don't have conversation email, you can send updates. I believe we just can't have back and forth. Then we have to we'll schedule one if we really need one. Uh it's up to you. Yeah, I guess
I guess we can just do it through email. Um just to give you guys updates on what's going on. Uh what's the week before that? >> Uh the 3rd. >> November 3rd. Yeah, I'll be the 4th
because they're doing Tuesday. do that as well. >> Yeah, we can do Tuesday. We'll try we'll try for um November 4th and then that way uh we kind of have it scheduled for now and I can give you a live update of
what's going on with CZM. Yeah, we'll do that. Yeah, because the next two Tuesdays, so I'll be gone. All right, you will make a motion to address and I will second that motion.
All in favor? Matt.