Terrific. Call a meeting to order. Okay. Doesn't seem to be a lot of bills. That's a good thing. >> Pass them around. >> We do have some minutes. Everybody would like to look them over.
>> Hi. How are you? I'm >> great. Hi. >> Nice to see you. >> Nice to see you. Move to accept the minutes of July 21 as presented. >> Second ch.
>> Yes. Second. Sorry. >> Any other questions, comments? All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Okay. >> Welcome, Kathy. >> Oh, thank you for having me. >> Can you join us? You sure do.
>> So pleased to join you. I have some information for all of you. >> Thank you so much. for the welcome. >> Thank you. You're welcome. I have this obviously mine when I give it back to you.
>> Um Oh, so thank you for having me. So I don't know how much Joyce has told you, but we had met about um this drug that's around. It's called Has anyone familiar with it? So I was not familiar with it. I had a call from a constituent
um about it. So, it's being sold at like smoke shops at Cumberland Farms, like that type of stuff. Um, and it's highly addictive. So, the constituent that called me, it was about her friend's son who was buying it um with cash
>> at a premise some place in Kingston. I think it was the smoke shop. I'm not sure if it was We talked about the mobile what it was. Hi, Jeez. >> Uh not sure exactly what place it was, but he was buying it and he became addicted to it. Did you know he was addicted to it? >> Good evening.
>> And was at this same establishment and someone behind him said, "How long had you been on that?" And he said, "A few months." And he said, "You need to go home and ask somebody for help because this will ruin your life." And he did. He wound up in rehab. >> So since then, I reached out to the chief. We go to the chief. So I reached
out to the chief and, you know, doing some research, there's been some towns that have banned it in in the Commonwealth and there's some states that have abandoned too. But more and more that I hear about it and that I look into it. It's highly addictive. It's an opioid and it's highly addictive
and we're just selling it here in Cumberland Farms and in smoke shops. And um there was another story. There's some bills that are at the state house that you'll see in your packet. >> And one is from a young man to never did any drugs, never smoked. Well, obviously did he didn't smoke. He didn't, you
know, drink, didn't do anything. And he thought that this was like a health thing. And um he w up dying. Yeah. He wound up all dingying and dying. So there's a bill for him. And there's It's interesting. I was just at a conference and there was someone there big time,
right? >> Trying to tell me it was okay. >> It's okay. It's natural. It's what they put in it. Right. It's what they put in it. It makes it really And it wasn't >> Sorry. Exactly. Right. >> It's not exactly opium though. It's
>> No, no. I said Okay. Okay. But fat is an opioid substance. Correct. Okay. >> Technically, but it's technically not an opioid. >> Correct. It's technically not. >> Technically, it is not as opioid. >> Sorry, you got two narcissist. >> No, I know. But it's as addictive.
>> It can be, >> right? It's not like you get addicted without the recreational benefits. No, it does have recreational benefits similar to those drugs that we also don't sell over the counter.
>> Right. Exactly. Exactly. So anyways, um they were giving different information to my colleagues and then they sent me down so we had a nice conversation. Um >> but anyways, I brought it to you after we brought it to the chief because there are we do have that opportunity to van
in it's lo under local control under the board of health. Right. >> So, didn't know what you wanted to do with it. I'm just providing you with information. The chief has more information and bringing it to your attention >> on a state level. What are they talking about doing? >> We There is four bills. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. That are just lost in >> Well, they're not last note. We We Everything has to be when it's heard, it has 60 days now to leave that committee. Um, >> one, two, three, four. Actually, there's five. There's another one I found today. But, >> okay. You know, it sometimes that takes
a long time and >> sometimes we can get a little more proactive on a local >> and there's other towns in the district. So, why represent six towns? Each town is looking at it as well. >> Oh, good to know. Okay. >> We can get it out of our area, >> right? >> Well, I mean, they still think there
needs to be >> more information out there on this. Um, >> and everyone when I first heard about it mentioned it to had never heard of it. Even the kids. There's a lot of kids that have no idea what it is. Yeah, which is good. >> But come quickly to find out quick. And
then in Penroke, I went by a Penroke um convenience store today and in old you know those neon lights that says cratom. It's funny because I always heard and then I was saying and the guys that had the things that said them so I don't know what it is. >> I don't either because I've seen I've
seen I've heard people discuss but >> yeah I don't know >> tomato tomato. Right. Right. Right. >> So this did any other towns in the commonwealth pass any >> regidering. So we have Chford Draket Belure Town.
>> Okay. and >> LOL. >> Uhuh. >> And did they all pass similar legislation? >> I have that in here as well. >> Okay. Right. >> This is what they had written, >> right? Okay. >> Through their board of health. So, regulations of the low board of health prohibiting manufacturing, sale, and
distribution of Adam. Um, that's in here as well. And then the states that have banned it. >> Rhode Island to Vermont. I was surprised like how did we miss it >> really? I guess what a shock.
>> I think it's just rolling >> I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. >> It sounds like we can act as a local board uh me much more expeditiously than the uh the commonwealth legislature and the whole
>> you know they can catch up at their will. Mhm. In the >> meantime, we can uh have a regulation in place to ban the sale >> Mhm. >> uh of this product. That's essentially what you're requesting.
>> I'm just bringing it to your I'm >> requesting it. >> Why are we going to wait, >> right, until something >> something happens? Somebody's kid winds up in rehab or dead. >> Well, we've already had it wind up in that. >> Yeah. So, >> I'm not suggesting waiting. suggesting
being proactive. I I like that idea. I don't >> It feels to me like it's going to take an awful long time for this to move through the powers that be. >> Just if if we do it, it's done. >> Yeah. We don't have that much red tape. >> Yeah. We have $7,000.
>> For us, what we would have to do >> um do an act of regulation >> is hold a public hearing, advertise, and hold a public hearing. We can't just unilaterally do that. That's an internal rule of the board of health. Um, hold the public hearing, get public input,
and then based upon that input, uh, enact or not a regulation. >> And we get thousands of people will show up, say, "No, no, don't do this." So, you give us pause, but I don't think that's going to happen. >> I would hope that wouldn't happen. >> I am getting some hate mail about it
now. >> Are you serious? Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean to that point there are people my understanding that say it does help them. Um so it would be interesting to hear from maybe some of the community agencies um like for instance you know the bridge
clinic up in way youth disorder and just sort of get some understanding of that because >> I wonder what Chief Holmes has for. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. >> Because because I think Um, you said something good to add to those comments. >> No, I'll I'll just talk. I didn't bring
anything for you to consider in terms of paperwork, but I can tell you that uh we're fortunate to have a state rep that's taken a proactive approach to this. I'd love to see it passed at the state level so that it becomes u statutoily prohibited and we can do do it under criminal enforcement for controlled substances.
>> Um, you know, this stuff is scary. What you don't know is how you're going to react as an individual when you try this. And then you don't know what can happen after those effects take uh take a hold on you. >> Uh it's right on the money that you know the u this this interacts with your body
and it behaves like an opiate and it behaves like a stimulant. So it's it's being equated to crystal methamphetamine. Uh and that that brings a whole host of problems. If you're both nurses then you know about the heart rate going up. You know about respirations going up. You know about all those those psychoactive side
effects. Um, and again, I think it's it's scary that something like this is just out there. It's being marketed. It's being put into a pill form. You can drink it as a tea and you just don't know what's going to happen after you try it for the first time. >> Well, it goes on the different do the different on a lower dose. It acts more
as a stimulant, >> right? >> And then becomes more of a >> like any narcotic does. You know, the larger the dose, the more somul you become. And that's not a good thing. >> They don't usually have the stimulant effect at the beginning. But I also think regardless of what its
therapeutic us is, we're not talking about therapeutic use by regulate, >> right? But and by banning it as a product be sold in stores, takes that out of it. If some >> therapeutic agency sees fit to use it,
that becomes their issue and a whole different >> a whole different segment. It's got nothing to do with banning it for sale in the town. And that's what we should stay focused on. >> I don't I don't see that. I mean, people will say mushrooms, psychedelics, the
pots useful. >> Great. >> Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I'm not a doctor, but I think that staying focused on the fact that right now it's being sold arbitrarily. Anybody can walk in and get it. >> That's scary. So,
>> it's uncontrolled right now. >> Absolutely correct. There is no nothing. >> And it's unregulated as well. So even the users are asking for it to be regulated so that they know exactly what's in the product. Some of it has been contaminated. People have gotten sick from that. >> My understanding is that it's not um
it's not dramatically associated with an overdose. It's usually in like a multi-drug situation or crate or whatever it is is one of the drugs that are involved. very little evidence that I've seen that's just >> interesting that you said that. Okay.
And that was one of the bills uh named after >> named after the young gentleman that died. Right. >> But it was the autopsy was specifically because they said the same thing. >> Right. Right. Right. But specifically Yeah. Extremely rare, but does happen. >> It is rare. You're right. You're
correct. >> I mean, the thing that jumped out at me is like no one under 18 should have anything to do with this. It should be completely prohibited under 18. Adults choose to do things that harm their health sometimes. Right. >> That's right. Um so number one, it
shouldn't be available to anyone under the age of 18. Number two, if it is, it should be totally regulated, licensed, and classified as like a schedule one drug, just like opium or people whose medical doctor does say this could be helpful for you.
And so that's just sort of thinking, you know, broadly >> that's the nurse in you. Yeah. >> Yes. Dennis, >> what I see as a course of action that we need to do is um uh one draft a regulation for consideration um by the
board. Once we've got the language of the regulation um down, schedule a public hearing and then enact, you know, enact or not the regulation based upon public input. >> So, Dennis, I feel like we should be
doing those both sim simultaneously. I can't speak tonight. Um, and just get this moving because you don't need this. I'm going to tell you this sounds like a gateway drug. >> This sounds like a gateway drug. This sounds like the thing that kids are gonna get into because they can go to Cumberland Farms and buy it and they're
gonna start and we're gonna see just a bad you know >> that's why I'm saying instead of delaying it out I would like to see us move in a more rapid manner. >> That's the that's the most rapid manner we can't we have to have a regulation >> but
>> we have to have a public hearing >> at the same time. Yeah, we have to have a regulation. She's >> just suggesting that we draft the regulation this evening. That's what she's trying to get. >> We can just copy what everybody done and make it simple like if it's already
>> not taking away just accelerating the fuss. Well, and and in that case, we can just um uh >> choose to adopt a regulation that another town has already adopted. That is
>> sounds like it's tweak a little bit. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I feel like we can take a lot from their hands, >> right? Right. I mean, we're meeting again. >> Oh, we're not meeting for another month, right? Because of Labor Day. I can if we met in another two weeks, we could sort of refine and just, you know, get a few
more questions answered. >> We can always meet not on a scheduled meeting, right? We have that option. >> Yeah. All right. Let's do it. >> Everybody's regulations and >> talk amongst what I thought was good,
but I thought their um >> their fines were not. It's like it gives them their their penalties basically need to be a little tighter especially for that >> city >> you know I thought I thought they were a
little loose for being a city coming from a little I know >> the ones that have been enacted it are listed at the bottom so it' be enough for everybody to go each one person go poke them each down and you can all decide what you want to write >> oh I see these okay at the bottom of
that left so the four l including these three is that correct Okay. All right. Yep. That would be helpful to see like their their language. >> Now, last time I looked at the bills that were pending, it was very skeleton. It was just >> I mean, there was no, you know, um >> information.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right. >> And so, has that changed or are they still here? They are. >> I think I did. >> Uh I don't know. I can find out for you,
but once it's heard and I could look at them too. Yeah, I could go back and look at them and mark them so that you know if something chang I'm just mindful of um the experience with um medical um recommendations and
information particularly during co >> when we were all accused of being overly regulatory >> um and want to be careful. I mean, I think we're at a point right now in healthcare that we're really trying to reestablish trust >> with the public. Um, so just to be sure
that we have our facts in order before we proceed if it meets a couple more weeks. Like I said, I lean heavily towards as much regulation as we can reasonably do and hope it would be statewide. Otherwise, all anyone has to do is hop on their bicycle and go to the next town.
>> Right. Right. Um >> but yeah >> the other way to look at that is we can spear you're heading this and start the trend for the area. >> Right. Right. >> And you know we know that there are drug problems and we know that we have ways to help >> prevent them by taking away gateway drug
access. >> Right. >> We can help people be healthier. >> Right. >> And and getting that education out there in the community. So, Chief, can you speak to and we don't need the names, I don't think, but how many establishments in the town of Kingston are you aware of
where it's for sale? >> Well, we have 18 tobacco licenses. So, >> okay. >> The possibility is there is at least 18 places selling it. Now, whether all 18 are doing it, I can't tell you that, but >> Okay. Okay. >> There's probably two on our radar that
that may be doing that. >> Okay. Yeah. Uh, and that's not that bad, but I I think the >> No, it's true too too many. Right. >> Right. The mayor is being proactive about it. So, >> Right. Right. Right. Okay. >> The only I'm aware of is Humb and MK
Smoke. Is that the two you have? >> Oh, okay. >> I I don't want to comment. >> Yeah. No, that's >> okay. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Great. >> No, I just I just think that um like getting ahead of it is is a good thing, right? You know, if there is a clinical benefit to it, then then the stuff should be prescribed by a medical.
Exactly. If if if there is a benefit, then it should fit under like a schedule a drug which would, you know, limit access. >> Our issue like our banning it here does not negate somebody's medical use. It just negates being sold.
>> So, what it's doing is negating it being sold over the counter. >> Oh, right. Okay. >> Prescription, right? >> You know, we're making it >> so they cannot be sold like bubble gum. >> Right. Right. At this point it is. >> Okay. Okay. >> Funny story. I had a friend. It was
3:00. Friend my age 3:00 in Cumies >> and you usually at 3:00 you need the coffee or something and it was called pep or something like that and she had to call her husband. She said I was high as a kite and it would had cra pepper something like that. Yeah. >> It's like an energy.
>> There's very catchy names for this. >> Yeah. I know. And they have they have lots of false claims, you know, they could cure everything, whatever it is. >> Yeah. Realistically, >> yeah. Yeah. >> What we're looking at is the earliest um ban could go in effect in the Kingston
is probably about a month >> and acting expeditiously. Um starting tonight, we make a decision to um get a bunch of uh sample um regulations from other towns.
No point in reinventing the wheel. >> And then once we have that, we go over the language to our satisfaction and then publish it and schedule a public hearing and then enact it or not.
>> You you you can't say for certain. I'm pretty certain what the um likely vote will be, but it's it sounds a little presumptuous. We're going to have a public hearing to get public input and well then we'll render the verdict we've already decided. No, we're going to decide on what we hear.
>> We want to be very careful about that. Yeah. >> Has there been any discussion at the meeting? Yeah, we've spoken briefly about it at the last grant meeting because we were there actually not for the grant for to do interviews
>> and so at our next grant meeting it will be addressed more fully because I'm you know there's other towns that are willing to get on the panel. Yeah, >> we're part of a grant >> with five other towns. Columbus and Calip. There's a bunch of
>> and that's why I asked that question if you're on >> I know D is interested in doing it. Um >> part of >> Clinton Hav where him Plymouth us and Dbury the six. So I know that D is very
adamant to do this as is I believe Plymouth is right on board. I can't speak to plent but >> already done. >> Yeah, I have not I >> not brought it up to the chief in Clinton yet. Thank you for reminding me.
But I have talked to you know when I um came. Yeah. And >> Penroke >> and Hal. >> Well, that will keep ours from going one town over. I know it. I know.
>> 12y old. >> Yeah. Was right on. >> But have there been other instances in Kingston? Like have you heard, you know, sort of chatter about it >> with young people or >> it was a middle-aged individual that six
months ago. >> Okay. >> So, we had a record of it because we responded along with fire, right? >> And he later came in to apply for a firearms license and we denied him. So it went all the way to a hearing because he exercised his rights of appeal. >> Okay.
>> And the judge upheld the decision to say no, you're not gonna get a license. >> So I mean there hasn't been a ton, but when you go to an overdose, >> there's always the what is the real substance? What's the >> overdose really in it? Exactly. Right. >> Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Mayor, to move
things along, I'll make a motion to um uh to prepare a set of regulations uh control uh relative to I don't even know how do you pronounce it? or crap.
>> Kraton. Okay. Uh collect our uh regulations, draft regulations relative to the u uh control prohibit prohibition of the sale of crayon products in Kingston for the next meeting for our next scheduled meeting.
>> Do we want to do an extra meeting because we're not going to meet again for another month, right? September 15. We have two meetings a month scheduled. Usually, >> one is cancelled. All right. But the next one would fall on Labor Day, so obviously we won't be here. So, the next available date would be the 8th.
>> Well, >> for the 15th. >> Can we see what rooms are available because I know sometimes that becomes an issue. >> No, no. I I'm s I think Dennis was asking about just having a board meeting. I'm going to ask that. The next question is when do you want me to schedule the public hearing for? >> Okay. That's what I was saying was the
board meeting. Sometimes we've had trouble in the past having room for Right. >> So, we really can't schedule the public hearing until we have the regulation because we have to publish the regulation >> that we are proposing. >> Okay. So, do we want to meet on the ETH
just for the few the sake of getting this regulation? There's four towns. So, four people >> each grab one. You guys should all be able to come up with a >> concise version. >> Yes.
Does the eighth work for everybody? >> Yeah, >> if we do the same five o'clock time. I think it would. Okay. >> Motion made. Is there a second? >> I'll second. Look for it. >> You pick. You pick. Lenn
>> favor. >> I. >> How many days does it have to be um published in order for the public hearing? Like how many days in between do we need >> between posting and having our public hearing? How many Larry, help me out.
>> Excuse me, >> you have to publish it in two editions of >> which is so challenging. >> Clinton Health. >> Right. >> Right.
So if we met on the 8th, then we published for >> to have an a hearing on the either the 22nd or the 29th of September. >> That's we'll work with that. >> Yeah, because we could wrap it up on our
next >> look and see which of those Mondays is an opening in 203 uh 200 and I'll book it in for that. >> Okay. the 22nd. >> Well, that was easy. Jesus, >> you guys.
>> My goodness. >> I have the more I read about it, the more I was >> I was stunned like we didn't know. We didn't realize that this was in the town. Really? >> I didn't even know there were those bills. I know. Well, it's everywhere. But >> Rhode Island and Vermont beat us to it.
Massachusetts better step it up, huh? >> Well, I'm not surprised because Vermont has a huge >> or the 29th, but I because I know I'll email you and say that. >> I'll be there once we lock. >> Thank you. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you for coming. >> Nice to see you. >> Patty, could you check in with the ER staff at um VI Plymouth and I can check in with them? Sure. Just to see >> you're not anymore. Okay. Okay.
Don't worry. Okay. I can I can check in at show with ER folks. >> I don't have many connections there anymore. >> Okay. Okay. And I can also check in with the bridge clinic up in the Great Clinic up in Bridge. >> Yeah. >> You know who I will reach out to? Um I
can reach out to Sarah Cloud. She is the director of social work >> at implement. >> Oh, perfect. Yeah. Right. >> That is real. Um, and I should be able to get a feel for her. >> Great. Great. >> And she also has boots on the ground
when it comes to She's part of the overdose team. >> Oh, perfect. >> Okay. All right. >> So, do we need to divvy up the towns? >> I'm going to email Sarah Cloud. Somebody else can do a town. >> Let's see. Where are these four towns
again? It's belt town. >> Um, lol det. >> Yeah, I I mean, I'm happy to do two of them. I mean, >> we just basically need to get the word you guys sit down and say, "Yes, we like
that." No, we don't. >> Right. >> Come up with something for the game. >> Sounds good. It was pretty vague. >> Okay. I'd ask you. >> Yeah, >> I would ask. >> Cheryl's already done some of this work, guys. >> She knows the information that Joyce
sent me. >> Okay, great. It was hard. It was very >> late. >> All right. >> Joyce, if there's another grant meeting between now and then, would you ask if any of them are their boards? >> Absolutely. >> Okay. And if they do, bring along
copies, please. >> And Joyce at your health agents report. That's next on the agenda. >> All right. >> Did we square away the towns? >> I'm doing two and gonna do two with >> Okay.
>> You already did, right? >> Shford was what you sent me and it's pretty >> generic. Is that their wording or is that just I don't know. >> I don't regulation. Okay. >> What's the regulation? Okay. All right. So, tell them what we have. Okay.
>> And then LOL was a little bit better. considering they have a lot more. >> All right. So, I'll do Draet and Velure Town. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> You're up, Joyce. >> All right. Um, as far as,
uh, stuff that's been going on in the department, we, you know, septic has been pretty steady. Nothing monumental. Um, I'm sure everybody's aware that 273 Penrook
Street, the house that I had at condemn is has been sold and is moving on. Uh we I've made contact with 22 river 2 28 River Street um and spoken with one of the owners of that and it's my understanding they they
cleaning it up and he was over there cleaning it when I went to visit trimming back bushes and stuff and securing the residence. They are in supposedly in the process of selling the property. So hopefully that will soon be
not a blight. Um I've it's come to my attention that we also have one at three marsh. So that correction order will be going out. Um we've gotten a number of just sort of really
obscure complaints. We had a noise complaint to do with Napoise vent who were on vacation for a month. Uh so I just approached the owner of the building. They apparently went up and greased. So now people are okay. Um, we
have trash issues over at Cranberry Court. So I've had enough dealings with the management company. So I have a direct line of communication. I just emailed her the picture and said, "You need to you need to clean it up or I'm going to have to send a correction order. This is, you know, needs to get
done." So hopefully that'll be cleaned up by tomorrow. I just got it today. Um and then we have we still have the outstanding
um issue of country club away where the correction was sent. The trash has not been you know picked up. We did send him a letter. Lori, what was the date we told him? >> We told him the 15th. >> The 15th was is our next scheduled
hearing. Um, so he's asked to appear on the on the 15th to show up um to have a hearing in front of you guys. >> September 15th. >> Yep. To explain why he didn't pick up No. Well, didn't show up and we'll pick up the trash. Um,
so we we'll proceed with that when it it comes. Um, we're signed up for the MHA conference that's in November. So I was able to get Lori in to be able to go to that as
well. Um the tracks are good so that you know she's be being exposed to all different aspects of the health department which will make hopefully her job a little bit easier as well. Other than that you just the same just we have
an issue at 22 Main Street that is illegal apartments. I use that word carefully because it's sheds um that people are living in that have
illegal plumbing, illegal electrical. It's unclear where septage is going into the ground. Um yeah, it's so building's involved, involved, we're involved. It will be um we have a meeting with town
council on Thursday to discuss how to move forward with this. Everybody's pretty much out um of the facilities. So that's good. We didn't have to Some person one person
chose to leave on their own. Person that remains is actually in a legal apartment. So that person can stay but he is leaving at the end of the month anyway. So basically that part of the property will be vacant. So I will give you an update as it
proceeds forward. >> So should all those people be voluntarily or did they need to be placed somewhere? >> So one guy, yes, left voluntarily, but there's also a criminal issue of a restraining order that's against him. So it was in his best interest to vacate
the property. >> The person that remains, like I said, is in the legal department. >> Okay. Right. There was a third person but apparently that person doesn't live there all the time. They have a significant other which they stay with
at times. So that person is staying with their significant other. Um there is evidence that other people have been there but they weren't there at the time of the inspection. You know like there's there's clothing and you know people's
life you know goods are in these apartments. So that that's what we've been dealing with for the last week and a half. >> Hopefully they'll, you know, town council will give us guidance on
how because everything has to sewer wants the um driveway dug up because you can't tell where the sewer pipes are going. There's allegations that there's literally 50 gallon drums just sunk that's holding sewage and this is quite
close to you know waterfront. So there's even a question if sewage is being released into storm drains that would flow out. >> So that's sewer's problem. >> Yeah. Right. But it's also a public
health problem if it's going into the water because >> my problem. Yeah. And >> so far this year, we only have two more weeks to go. There has been the numbers have been fantastic at all the beaches.
So that's wonderful. Um so far so good. We also remained at low risk again this week for both triple E and West Nile. Kingston is holding steady at low which is good. Uh there has been an uptick I
believe it's in Blimp. One of the towns sort of heading towards Plton Halifax Penrook area is at medium. Um so hopefully this little cold sample do us some good. >> When you say low risk does that mean no
samples have been found? No, it means that it's um the incident rates of samples is such that it's insignificant and there's been no whole human cases. It's just sampling. So >> that's my understanding of how the risk
is is determined. >> Okay. >> And I know that I sit on Plymouth County mosquito so I get the updates when I go I get to talk to the entomologist. So >> they're trapping like crazy. >> Good. So, so far so good.
>> I th a sign up at Halifax saying triple E has been found at Halifax. >> Yeah. So, there's a medium, >> not necessarily a human case. It means that the incident rate is significant enough for them to raise the risk. >> Okay. >> I noticed that one of the local one of
the surrounding towns, I forget which one, had posted the link for if people wanted to contact Plymouth County >> mosquito >> mosquito is on. It should be on there. We had we had >> every time I post the frames I post your phone number.
>> So they have a link there's a website that you can the link and it's so easy to use because sometimes calling mosquito control can be quite tedious. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Because there's nobody. It's one person. >> I may already have. >> It should be the link should be on there
because I know I sent it. But maybe they just posted the link like if you'd like to get sprayed. This is the link for Mosquito County for mosquito. >> And it could have been on there because we just they just updated our website
like the whole town's website. So we're having to go through and make sure that everything transferred >> and there may be some things that need to either come off or be added in. >> Yeah. So, >> I just thought it was really easy and I actually followed the steps breaking.
>> Yeah, it's so much better when you go on. >> So much easier than trying to call. >> So, yeah, they've hit like 50% now of everything is gone and it's only been up >> um I think a month. >> Are they spraying the schools yet? Because we have sports going on.
>> They if we want them sprayed, I will have them sprayed. >> Yes, please. >> Because the high school's out there. >> They already started. >> Football has already been out there. Yeah, that's where all the schools all the fields. >> Yeah, great. >> All right, we're I'll call them tomorrow. >> Thank you.
>> Yeah, no worries. >> Yeah, good. >> Anywhere else? >> Pick up on that. Yeah. >> How about Puddle? >> I didn't know. Is Ple considered to be the school though or no? >> The field. >> All right. No. No. Is it too
>> all the >> We'll get that done. Thank you. >> So, anything about tick surveillance? Any prevalence of anything? >> Tick surveillance is still, >> you know, we have the epi, >> but >> I have not received anything that says
we're getting a ton of visiosis or >> limes or anything. I've seen plenty of and plasmosis and not as much lime but in the first six people >> you know just within my case reviews
>> and right now the tick cycle is we're down it's going to ramp back up in the next week or two. So they go through a cycle sort of like August is like a low >> dormcancy >> a low tick month and then September into October is when you really need to be
Yeah. Well, you just need to be careful. >> Yeah. >> So, and I know we posted stuff on there about be careful. We have our tickets. We >> We have our tickets. >> Do we still have tickets? >> Yeah. >> Tape Inside Out on your ankles. >> Yeah.
>> We um we did Lori was nice enough to go to the night out and hand out tickets to people. So, we made our presentation. >> I would have did that with you, Lori. >> Yes. >> Thanks, Mommy. But yeah, I would have gone, but I was
at >> Okay. Anybody have any other questions on the health agents report? >> And if not, Mr. Randall has a public service announcement that he's presented tonight. >> Want to go over, Dennis? >> Yeah, it's u
um Kingston Board of Health public service announcement. Feel free to edit, change, or uh revoke anything you want. Kitchen homeowners of title five septic systems should be aware garbage disposals are strongly discouraged. Food waste adds excess solids to septic
tanks, which can clog leeching fields, increase pumping costs, and shorten the life of your system. Title 5 regulations require systems be properly maintained to protect public health, water quality, and the environment. The installation of a garbage disposal may require a system upgrade or increased frequency of
inspections. >> It's actually should Can we correct it because it should say will will it require 50%, >> right? >> And then the frequency of inspections is not that's not a thing. >> I mean, it's a good idea, but it's not a thing.
>> Okay. >> But other than that, I think it was great. >> Why don't we let Dennis read the whole thing? >> Then you chew it apart, >> sorry. I was just think That that's clearly all right. Uh the installation of garbage disposal
um will require a system upgrade. Uh protect your investment, your wallet, and the environment. Use composting and municipal waste options instead. Healthy septic system means a healthier Kingston. Think before you grind your septic dependence upon it. If you have any questions or need more information,
please contact the Kingston Board of Health. >> I think it's great. >> I do too. I think Okay. Go ahead. Um, after we say that the garbage disposals are strongly discouraged, I would say and not advised.
That >> was a good move. >> Yeah. I mean, again, this is change anything you want to on. >> No, >> that's what I'm saying. I was hoping >> I like it. >> I think you did a great job. >> Yeah. Perfect. >> And I would just add substantially. That shortens the life of your system substantially.
>> Yeah. Right. So, we start at the beginning. So, I is I got to Yeah. Okay. >> So, I can put it up. Kingston homeowners with Title 5 septic systems should be aware that garbage disposals are strongly discouraged and not advised.
Food waste adds excess solids to septic tanks which can clog leeching fields and increase pumping costs in rather increase pumping costs and shorten the life of your system substantially. >> And substantially shorten the life of your system.
>> Okay. And just throw substantially in there somewhere, Dennis. Um should we give a nod to the um to Jean Nman's that food they you can do food disposal at the dump.
>> I wouldn't do that. I would just stick with what we got. >> Okay. >> I wasn't sure where there's an option to dump the food waste. >> Well, it says municipal so it indicates that they have >> that's what they have, >> right? >> Well, no. They have a whole compost. They have a whole system.
>> Composting bins. Yeah. >> Yeah. They have a thing. >> They do. >> So it doesn't go to the dump dump. It goes into a food recycling like composting place. They process it. >> Yeah. >> Title five regulation. Go ahead, Heidi.
>> You want me to keep going? >> Oh, I will read the whole thing. Title regulations require systems to be properly maintained to protect public health, water quality, and the environment. The installation of a garbage disposal will require a system
upgrade. Protect your investment, your wallet, and the environment. Use composting or municipal waste options instead. A healthy septic system means a healthier Kingston. Think before you grind. Your septic depends on it. If you
have any questions or need more information, please contact the Kingston board. >> Oh, that's great. >> Well done. A dramatic reading. >> I know. >> I don't know, but I really appreciate it. >> I think you did a great job. Thank you very >> well done. That came out really good. >> Okay,
>> great job. >> We found you. And then >> and the last subject on the agenda for this evening is how to address the unpaid fines. Joyce, >> uh yes. So we have outstanding fines
that need to be paid. Um so in your regulations, you have it. So I want to know how you all want me to proceed with this >> fiance force non-compliance. >> Okay.
>> With tobacco >> um with tobacco with food regulations inspections, you know, like when we go there multiple times and you haven't cleaned. >> Um do we have multiple vendors or is it a
single? >> It's down to two. Okay. Different vendors. Everybody else is paid. And these two vendors are we looking at >> one one I I'm hoping will be rectified.
Um the second one is a larger issue. >> Another one that we are in legal issues with also. Well, the uh yeah um at this point given the repeated tobacco violations and the that's actually of more concern
than the food violations, but it's it's everything in totality. >> Um I am working with council because some of this some of the mechanisms have changed. Why? I have no idea. But I would
based on what you guys wrote for regulations, I would move to have a hearing to have the vendor come in, the owner come in and have a hearing. I would like to revoke the tobacco permits at this point. >> Absolutely.
>> Given Yeah. Just to clarify this, this was discussed at a previous meeting, right? Is it the same page? >> It's been ongoing. >> Okay. But I mean from my two years, but I mean from my experience, it's just Okay. Okay. So, it's violation. >> It's the same case and it still has not been resolved.
>> Correct. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Right. Yeah. >> Is that part of the regulation anyhow that if you don't pay your mind, you >> you're subject to revocation? >> I'm sorry, Dennis. >> No. Isn't that part of the regulation
anyhow that if you not pay your fine, >> your permit will be revoked? Right. >> But even more importantly, in your regulations, it clearly states that after the third or fourth offense, if there's a continued egregious disregard, that a permit can be revoked. at this
point. >> Mhm. >> It feels like considering you guys, not the board, I don't know who was on the board when it happened, but the board has already given >> the break >> um owner repeated breaks and they
continue to do it. >> I have a big hat. >> I know. >> So, >> we're trying to have the brain the same size as the heart. That way your mortgage will balance. >> Thank you. >> So, so according to our regulations, the next step is to invite
>> Yes, they have a hearing. So, >> everybody's on board with that. >> So, I guess we need to revisit the whole because the next schedule the we have a >> board meeting scheduled for the 15th because that's our normal date.
>> Mr. Tomsburg has been issued a request to appear at the hearing because he didn't show for the last one. So that is already scheduled for the 15th. Do or let me rephrase that. It are
is the board able to communicate on just the basis of those putting together a ban for the catnum without having a meeting or can that be done on the 50? Then we still which means we'd have to
push the public hearing out even further because you guys say we need two weeks >> have a meeting on the 8th. >> Yeah. just that just the right okay >> and then go back to our >> regular what's his name if it's not resolved we'll schedule the meeting for
the 15th but if in fact it's been resolved then we'll move forward okay >> okay I'm going to send him a letter tomorrow >> you don't send them on the 15th it's not going to be resolved as it's only on four or three
>> okay you send them a letter >> I will >> please send me a copy Okay. >> If there be no other business, I make a motion. >> Oh, okay. >> Just one other about to say. >> Well, I I talked with you about this on the phone. So, I looked into our
membership in the Massachusetts Association of Boards of Health, and currently we're not a member. We haven't paid due since 2023. So, I'd like to make a motion that this board renews their membership and pays the invoice. I think it's $150. Is
there a second? >> Would that cover all of us? >> Yes. Yes. >> Members, that's right. >> Rosemary, what was the motion? Sorry. >> Um, the motion was for this board to renew our membership with MAHV, which
has elapsed apparently in 2023. um and then pay the the invoice for that which is $150 a year which covers every member of the board of health. Right. >> Moved seconded. >> I'll second it.
>> Any discussion? Heidi, >> you have concerns? >> I don't think I have concerns. >> Okay. You have what? How does that look? What's up? >> My grandmother's in the ER. >> Sorry.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> You good with it? >> Yeah. >> All in favor? I >> So, where does it come out of? >> Say what? >> Where is the money come out of? >> It can't be funny. Like, I don't know if it's it comes out of
>> Do we have the funds >> to pay? You have seen the budget, right? >> We haven't seen the budget in a while. >> I have never seen the budget since I've been here budget. >> Okay. >> The same as last year. We didn't get diddly squad. >> Yeah. But we had been paying the
membership >> treasur where it gets paid out of make sure it gets done. That's all. >> Unless opposing the hardship that we should know about >> fees. >> Yeah. No, I'm just
>> All I want to know is if we're supposed to pay it or you guys pay it. That's all I >> That's all I needed to know. >> It belongs to the board. So if the >> comes out of the budget, it's the members come in and out the other the
new members will be covered. Old members are ahead. You said a minute ago. Uh if there be no other business, I make a motion to adjourn. Second one. >> All in favor?