WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=ebI0NwhDSqM NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: ebI0NwhDSqM): - 00:00:09: Opening Remarks and Southshore Vapor Tobacco Violation - 00:00:59: Southshore Vapor - Preventative Measures and Board Discussion - 00:04:22: Southshore Vapor - Fine, Training, and Closing the Hearing - 00:07:52: ID Scanners, Fake IDs, and Brazilian Point Introduction - 00:09:29: Brazilian Point - Second Violation Explanation and Ownership Transfer - 00:12:24: Brazilian Point - Selling the Business and License Penalties - 00:15:57: Brazilian Point - Suspension Recommendation, Motion, and Closing - 00:19:05: Brazilian Point - Advice for New Owners and Farewell - 00:19:52: Introduction to Kingston Liquors Tobacco Violation - 00:20:09: Kingston Liquors - Contesting Violation Due to POS Discrepancy - 00:21:29: Kingston Liquors - Training, Community, and ID Practices - 00:24:08: Kingston Liquors - Signage, Training, and Continued Hearing Motion - 00:26:31: Kingston Liquors - Notification, Burden of Proof, and Cameras - 00:28:40: Kingston Liquors - Closing the Hearing and Approval of Minutes - 00:29:12: Health Agent Report - Inspections, Complaints, Training, and Ticks - 00:31:13: Health Agent Report - Nurse Visits, CPR Training Costs, and AEDs - 00:34:26: Health Agent Report - Housing Inspections, Hazmat Training, and Outreach - 00:37:11: Health Agent Report - CLEA Certification and Health Fair - 00:39:09: Health Agent Report - Loaner Program Discussion, Safe Serve Class - 00:41:52: Health Agent Report - Further Discussion and Old Business - 00:43:32: Republic Quarterly Report, Failure to Comply - 00:45:04: Republic's Violation - Determining Suspension and Revocation - 00:46:57: Republic's Violation - Trash Service At School - 00:47:46: Republic's Violation - Revocation of Permit and Notification - 00:51:54: Republic's Violation - Formal Motion for Revocation and Adjournment Part: 1 1 00:00:09.200 --> 00:00:26.720 We have no participants. >> Okay. Listen, what we're going to do is we're going to get right into these public hearings. Um, and we'll take care of our stuff afterwards, minutes and things like that. That way they we won't be delaying you guys any longer that we 2 00:00:26.720 --> 00:00:43.840 than we have to. Okay. Um, according to my paperwork here, first up is Vapor. Come on. Now, the I don't I'm sorry. >> Did you call it to hold because she just >> Yes, I already did. 3 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:59.280 >> Thank you. >> I did that while she was television the meeting. >> So, shortly. >> So, I need a motion to public this to uh open this public hearing pertaining to this matter. Are we opening it for all of them or just the Okay, so I make a 4 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:14.479 motion. >> I have to move it individually. >> I am making a motion to open the hearing for Southshore vapors on their tobacco violation each. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I It's official. Okay, sir. 5 00:01:14.479 --> 00:01:34.159 >> Yes. >> Um, you've been invited and the inspector is not here. >> They're not required to be present. I understand it, but I kind of thought it might be. Um, well, let's see. 6 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:49.200 >> So, it looks like you acquired the property in June of last year. >> April. >> April. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, maybe the permit changed over. I don't know. There was a new owner in 611 and then the 7 00:01:49.200 --> 00:02:04.479 violation actually happened on December 11th. It is the first violation um ever >> under my ownership or just in general >> under it's your first violation as the new 8 00:02:04.479 --> 00:02:20.080 owner but the company that that facility has never had a previous violation. So this is the first violation ever. >> Yeah. And I do apologize. My employee was recommended. Um, previously when they have came, you guys issued me this 9 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:36.239 letter ID complied. Um, always checking IDs and I had now have one of these right here. So I scan the ID. So we'll never not miss an ID check whether the ID's expired underage or always by the book. I've watched the 10 00:02:36.239 --> 00:02:51.200 film. There was quite a c quite a few customers in that day. But she was super apologetic about it. Promise it'll never happen again. When I'm there, I'm very vigilant. ID's expired. Kids like, "I'm going to go to the Red Seat tomorrow. Sorry, I can't help you." Like, you have 11 00:02:51.200 --> 00:03:07.680 to have a valid ID. So, we're always on top of it. >> Okay. >> And I know by the previous owner, he has a high reputation with the store. So, I always try to keep the same level of reputation. So, when customers do come in and they understand I'm a new owner, I extend the reputation of the previous 12 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:23.920 owner. >> Well, especially being such close proximity to the school too. We >> yes, >> we are going to hold you as we hold the whole town very accountable because >> we all know that tobacco is not good for kids that you know >> I do and I work in the industry. I'm a 13 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:39.760 distributor so I'm I I feel all the time. I've been in the industry about 10 years distributing on the other end of it. So I'm fully aware with all the stores across I my warehouse is in Nashville now. We used to be in Newton. We moved to Nashville about three years ago. So I literally cover the whole all of New England when it comes to 14 00:03:39.760 --> 00:03:54.879 distribution. totally get it from the towns that went um tobacco 03 when it comes to the generations going after 04 the towns that have adult retail establishments only where there's only two smoke shops or one smoke shop at a time the stores can't sell so I see it across the board 15 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:22.000 and I told you get the you >> yes I didn't bring with me All right. >> Well, it was the first offense and um they didn't ask for an ID and they did make the sale. 16 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:37.120 Lousy $6.69 and that's the violation is what it is. You're not saying it didn't happen. You're just saying you're taking a number of preventative measures to make sure that it doesn't happen again. >> Right. >> I'm hearing you. 17 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:54.880 Oh, everybody else. >> I know. It was a sale to an underage under 21. >> To my knowledge, I'm not sure if it would. >> Yes. If it's a anybody that's here is because it was an under 21. 18 00:04:54.880 --> 00:05:12.080 >> Okay. Does this thing pick up fake IDs, too? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> You want to see it? >> I'll I'll ask questions later. >> I just had to start with that one. Dennis, I know you came in a few minutes late, but uh have you got anything you'd 19 00:05:12.080 --> 00:05:27.759 like to add? >> The the offense happened. He understands that. Um and he's taking steps to >> prevent it from happening in the future. >> Yes. >> And none of us have a time machine, so we can't go back and change what happened. All we can do is deal with it. 20 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:52.639 Right. >> Okay. What would the board like to do, if anything? In some cases, these things >> Well, that's right. >> The fine is not negotiable because we don't have any preview over what >> the first defense requires the store 21 00:05:52.639 --> 00:06:09.720 owners to do is complete a training program. >> That's what is expected. Just >> I'm sure you know online stuff. So, okay, >> that's that's what the health department the the board of health um 22 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:25.360 >> stipulation is that that's what they they need to complete. There's no laws or anything for fresh offense. >> Okay. >> I'm assuming if you from the industry, you know, we have no perview over the >> but any suspension of the right to sell 23 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:41.440 is in fact negotiable. Yes. >> Right. But there is no he's not facing one right because it's the first violation. >> The best we can do from what I understand of the law is collect the $1,000 and tell you go forth and send no more. 24 00:06:41.440 --> 00:06:58.479 I mean that's what it comes down to. And um you know I appreciate uh I think the board does your cooperation, your acknowledgement and uh the fact that you intend to make sure that there's a fee. 25 00:06:58.479 --> 00:07:18.240 >> These things get crazy if they happen. >> Did you complete the class? >> No. >> Okay. So we do have the expectation and isn't it in our >> it's in your in our regulations 26 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:35.120 >> in our regulation is that you need to complete a class about >> it's training program employees do it then when you guys get the certificates >> print them out and send them to us and I'll put them in your folder show when 27 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:52.880 you did Wish there was more we could do. >> No, I understand. >> Absolutely. Yeah, >> there's no I could take a motion to close the public hearing. >> So move. >> Second. >> I can second that one. >> All in favor? >> I 28 00:07:52.880 --> 00:08:08.400 >> I >> Okay. Sorry this has happened to you and I >> thing on all of ours. >> All right. >> I like it. What's it called? feel an ID reader. We did discuss this, but I think Dennis was the one that said, "Well, 29 00:08:08.400 --> 00:08:26.080 anybody can >> scan an ID. It doesn't mean it's real." >> No, it picks up the fake ID. >> I know that. But yeah, >> there was an adment against requiring it as part of some good ones out there. >> Not always. >> Okay. >> I have I have more 30 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:40.640 than >> Okay, that's good to know. Thank you. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but that would create another scenario if in fact the the app that purchaser reported that his ID was 31 00:08:40.640 --> 00:08:57.760 scanned on something like that and it came back by even if he in fact was underage. >> Yeah, >> that would be a whole different scenario. >> That would be different than No, I'm sure there's liability disclosures on >> Yeah, I'm saying it doesn't catch everything because 32 00:08:57.760 --> 00:09:14.160 >> they're good but there's nothing. >> Yeah. Yeah. you know, people are really good at making big ideas, >> you know, at least the effort goes in. >> Yeah. You know, I think it's great that you even have that's what I'm saying, you know. >> So, we thank you. Unless you have anything else. >> No, I'm not. Thank you, guys. I 33 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:29.360 appreciate it. >> The letter will tell you how to pay the fine. And then, like I said, once you guys are all completed, just send me your certificates and we'll put them in your folder. All right. It just shows that you did it. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Any questions? >> All right. Thank you. >> Have a good night. 34 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:51.920 >> Thank you. boy. >> Next up, Brazilian Point. How are you, sir? >> Hello, everyone. >> Hello. I would like to open the hearing on Brazilian Point or tobacco violation number 35 00:09:51.920 --> 00:10:07.680 two. >> Two second. All in >> favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Okay. You in favor? Thank you. >> I Yes. >> Okay. >> I made the motion. >> Okay. >> Good evening to you, sir. 36 00:10:07.680 --> 00:10:24.800 >> Good evening. >> You came here tonight to take it to explain the situation and see if there's anything can be done about it. >> Yes. >> So is yours. >> Yep. So, I take full responsibility for the action of selling to um an underage, 37 00:10:24.800 --> 00:10:40.880 I believe. Uh, and to be even worse, it was my uncle um that sold it. We know that because we don't sell too much tobacco, hence why we probably didn't take the ID. Plus, all the other 38 00:10:40.880 --> 00:10:59.440 ventures that we have going on kind of made him forget. Um, but we do take responsibility. After the second count, I made sure that all my um employees were again um trained and I had everyone 39 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:16.959 signed. So I can show you guys over here all the documents uh that I trained them that um no one would be um sold a tobacco product without special ID. And since we don't sell too much tobacco, I 40 00:11:16.959 --> 00:11:34.399 think that's why um we kind of did it. And another thing is that we sold the business about two months ago. Um and I wanted to see if we can do anything about um not having the 7-day suspension 41 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:52.640 for the license. >> Well, let me understand this. This violation happened before Christmas of last year. Yep. >> And he just sold it two months ago. So, it's not even the current >> owners that would be penalized for >> although the current owners aren't in 42 00:11:52.640 --> 00:12:08.959 possession of the business technically because they have not filled out permits with them with us. >> So, still technically own the businesses. >> He's running it under his name. >> We haven't gotten the paperwork for the transfer of the permit at this point because they're still working through all this. Yeah, we're still working 43 00:12:08.959 --> 00:12:24.880 through all that because we we are also a money service business which takes about 6 to 8 months to process all the um licenses and everything. So, it's not even the liquor that's the number one problem. >> Third time, make sure you're not moneyaundering. 44 00:12:24.880 --> 00:12:41.680 >> Yes, that too. Yeah. And like we said for the ID checkers, we have that, but we've caught couple of of licenses in the past that were fakes and I just decided not to use that as well. So I 45 00:12:41.680 --> 00:12:59.760 usually um sell to people that look over the age with their ID. So that's how I usually do it. If it's someone that comes with an ID from out of state, I'm like, I don't want to sell because we have the liquor. So, I'm very like um focused on the liquor with that, but 46 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:15.760 since we don't sell too much tobacco, I kind of leaned back on the tobacco. >> So, you're selling the business? >> I sold the business. >> I'm still transferring over. >> So, this the business was already sold 47 00:13:15.760 --> 00:13:33.040 about two months ago. >> So, you say you don't sell a lot of tobacco products? >> No, you don't. So the seven consecutive business days of no longer selling tobacco wouldn't really affect your business. >> It wouldn't affect it, but since the 48 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:48.639 business is not mine anymore, I don't think it would be fair for for the new owners to take that on my >> right to sell anything because they have >> it can be theirs on paper, but they aren't the owners of the business in the eyes of the health department. They have 49 00:13:48.639 --> 00:14:05.199 not turned any paperwork >> in. So it is your business. Yep. Yeah, it is my business. But yeah, I >> until >> until all the permits are in place. >> So possibly >> four or five months. >> Yeah, >> it's not just about our permits. It's 50 00:14:05.199 --> 00:14:22.480 all the other >> We've got liquor, we got uh MSB that are state permits. So all that >> something like this isn't going to look great for you. >> Yeah, it wouldn't. Yeah, that as well would not look good for them. Um, I 51 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:37.680 wanted to see if we could work anything out. Like the $2,000 I I don't mind paying. It's just I don't want the the second count. >> We can't do anything about the money. >> And I just didn't want the second count on our record. >> Have you already gotten your >> Well, the second count's going to stay 52 00:14:37.680 --> 00:14:53.040 on your record. It's not coming off your record. >> Wouldn't come out? >> No. >> Wait a minute. Wait a sec. If he doesn't own the business anymore, >> he No, he does own >> He owned the license. So, it's going to stay on the license, >> but a few months from now, 53 00:14:53.040 --> 00:15:09.040 >> somebody else owns the business. >> Change his own. >> So, if something go for something happens, >> it's a first offense, >> right? But we're saying no, this is not a first offense. This happened. >> No one's saying that. I didn't say that. I said that new owners. 54 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:24.959 >> My question was not that. The question that I was trying to ask him simply was, "Have you obtained your liquor license if if there's one you need from the select board in this town yet?" >> No, they did not apply. Well, they did apply. I think that they're waiting on a hearing for that. 55 00:15:24.959 --> 00:15:41.199 >> So, they apply for you. >> Sorry, >> I already have I already have the liquor license. >> He has a current liquor license. The new owners are applying for their >> I think they already have applied. They're just waiting for a hearing. Yeah. Well, this is all here. >> It hasn't. 56 00:15:41.199 --> 00:15:57.680 >> No, not yet. >> I'll let them do that. >> I was just looking at potential negative impacts. That's >> Oh, yeah. No, it's it's all negative impact. >> We can we as the health department can also provide information to the sled board that the people 57 00:15:57.680 --> 00:16:15.839 were not involved in that >> if they ask. Okay. Um, >> what would anyone like to do with the suspension that comes along with it? >> Well, as it reads, may be suspended for 58 00:16:15.839 --> 00:16:31.040 up to seven consecutive days. >> Yes. At this time, it sounds as though another owner has taken is reaping the proceeds from this business >> and that this gentleman right here is 59 00:16:31.040 --> 00:16:49.480 not. So, I'll be with >> that. They're selling illegally because they do not have permits to sell through us. >> Okay. Right now, nobody's with anything. >> Give me a second. Okay. Um, 60 00:16:49.600 --> 00:17:11.360 I don't know. I need to think about it for a minute. >> Dennis, what do you have? >> I'd make a motion to assess the fine and not enforce the penalty, the sale penalty portion of 61 00:17:11.360 --> 00:17:26.079 it. >> Thank you. What do you think, Heidi? >> I will second that because that's how I was leaning. >> That's what I thought I was hearing. >> Yeah. I just need words. 62 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:43.919 >> Okay. Any other discussion? >> Charlie, you got anything? When was the other offense? >> Two years ago. Three. >> You got to read the date on it. I just know it was 2023. I don't know if it was 63 00:17:43.919 --> 00:18:01.760 You know when it occurred exactly? >> It looks like it was almost >> because we do them twice a year, >> right? >> It was December 23. >> Yeah. >> And who was responsible for that violation? >> That was full responsibility. 64 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:17.320 >> You. >> Mhm. >> So, it was you that sold the >> I don't know. I don't It was me. It was either me or my uncle. >> It was either one of us. Yeah. Like I said, we don't sell too much tobacco, but um 65 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:33.679 >> any other discussion of the board members, >> but now we know. Now it's like >> I don't care who it is. >> Still going to work. >> No, no, no, no. I told him get out. >> Brazil right now. >> All in favor of the motion. >> I >> I 66 00:18:33.679 --> 00:18:50.080 >> Okay, then you move to close the public hearing. I will make a motion to close the public hearing against who are we talking to the Brazilian point. >> Yeah. Second. >> Okay. Where are you going? What are you 67 00:18:50.080 --> 00:19:05.600 doing? >> So, I'm going business. Okay. >> All righty. I'm building just building four town houses down in Buzzard's Bay and just closed on one today. Another lot. So, building that. So, >> good luck building. Advise these 68 00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:21.520 >> your spec building. >> Spec building. Yeah. >> Go for it. >> Yep. >> Advise these new owners, please, that this is serious stuff. Don't want to get jammed up. >> 100%. Okay. >> 100%. And um >> Good luck with everything. >> So, everything's okay now and just tell them >> just need to transfer those licenses and 69 00:19:21.520 --> 00:19:36.400 then, you know, I'm not sure why one license would hold up the other licenses. >> So, you think we can do that ASAP? >> They just haven't applied for anything. So, >> okay. I'll tell them please to do that um as soon as possible and >> all right. 70 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:52.320 >> Thank you very much people. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you sir. >> Thank you. >> The letter you received explains to you how to pay the fine. >> Okay. No worries. Good luck. >> Thank you. Byebye. 71 00:19:52.320 --> 00:20:09.360 >> Well sir and then there was one. And I will call to order the hearing for Kingston Liquors on their tobacco violation. >> Second. >> Okay. >> Sir, you have the floor. >> Sure. We're here today for a second violation. Uh there was a first 72 00:20:09.360 --> 00:20:25.520 violation in 2023 which we did not contest. Uh we checked our POS system and that sale did occur. We're contesting this violation here today because we checked our POS system and we do not have record of selling this MA these Mavericks on this day. 73 00:20:25.520 --> 00:20:40.720 um December 11, 2025 uh at any time that day. So that's why we're contesting this today. Um one thing to note is the guy that did sell this, he's in his mid70s. It says adult doesn't check off older adult. He was 74 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:56.559 the guy working that day. Uh he denies selling a pack of Mavericks and we have no record of it on our POS system which keeps track of every transaction. I did a further check uh because this employee could scan it and then not process the transaction through. It's like called an exception report. It's not on our 75 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:12.799 exceptional report either. So, we check the exception reports to make sure people aren't stealing things. You could come in, bring a bottle of wine up to the counter, the employee could ring it, and then not process the whole transaction through. Uh but here, this would have to be scanned and there's no record of it being scanned, no record of 76 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:29.200 it being processed through the system. So, that's why we're here today. Um there's no one here from the state. >> There's no one here contest this. >> There's no one here that can contest this. >> So that's why we're here today. Uh we take these uh violations very seriously. We do trainings on our employees at 77 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:45.039 least once a year, sometimes twice a year. Uh the first violation, we terminated that employee when we got it because we did confirm that it happened and we take this stuff very, like I said very seriously. We sell liquor. Uh my dad bought this store in 1961. We've been in town here for 66 years. Um, we 78 00:21:45.039 --> 00:22:00.880 value the community. We get a lot out of the community. Uh, we give back whenever we can. Um, we want to be good members of the community. We don't we the last thing we want to do is be selling anything to a minor. Uh, we refuse people not on a daily basis, but it's not uncommon. Uh, not only because not 79 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:16.720 because necessarily not out of age, but because they don't have proper identification. So, it's but it happens a regular basis. I do it myself when I'm there. Um, even if they say they come in and they know so and so, that doesn't count. You have to be, you know, and it sounds terrible, 80 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:32.000 but a lot of times they probably they are open. They come back later on with their ID and they prove it to us. >> But we do it all the time. >> What time do you open in the morning? So >> 8 a.m. >> Okay. >> We try Well, we're supposed to be open at 8 a.m., but this older gentleman is is late often. He's at like 8:30. 81 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:48.320 >> Sometimes 8:15 a.m. >> The goal is perfect. >> Yes. Yes. Uh, we do constant trainings. Uh, we keep track of them. We, you know, I pay them, I pay for the training and I pay for the time to do the training because we we we feel that strong. 82 00:22:48.320 --> 00:23:04.240 >> You have one of those ID readers. >> No. >> Okay. I'm just curious. >> Um, we looked into them. We we don't find that they're that effective. Okay. >> And they're very expensive. They're like thousands of dollars. Um, and we >> So are tobacco fines. >> Yeah. Exactly. No, we take this very 83 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:20.960 seriously. I mean, it's it's it's a big part of I mean, this is what we do. We're not a supermarket. We're not like Brazilian was the one before me. He's like a market. He sells like like you said, he sells limited cigarettes. Yeah. We're This is our livelihood. This is like what we do. This is 100% of 84 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:36.880 >> you know, we don't even want you come in our store and you're 16 years old, you want to buy a soda. We said go next door and buy the soda. Like we don't even want in our store walking around saying that they stole a bottle >> because we even think that we're liable even for that >> because we feel like somebody would come in and said like, "Well, what do you mean you like two 15 years old coming in 85 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:51.840 to buy us something?" >> My dad was like that with there was a driving school with the rent where the floor places car dealership and they would walk down and they would try to come in because we're like the first store and uh I can remember being a young guy and my dad would say like absolutely not. He would stop them at the door and say like go to the gas 86 00:23:51.840 --> 00:24:08.080 station. It's right there. Like we you can't be walking around the store because they'll come in and they spread out and there's one or two people there >> and there's six aisles you can't see and they run out the door of the lot. You know you're now you're like chasing them. It's just a bad seat. >> So maybe you should have a sign on your door saying no one under 21. 87 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:23.679 >> We do we have a time but they don't always read it. They come in. It's >> Yeah. >> It's like training the employees like this this first person we had to fire. We give them training. We tell them >> we don't keep track of who they don't sell to. So there's no like no one's going to get in trouble if they refuse five people today, right? Or six people. 88 00:24:23.679 --> 00:24:39.760 >> We're just tracking the sale. >> We're just tracking the sale. >> I understand. I understand. >> Okay. >> We're at a very responsible establishment. I would take a motion at this time to um continue this matter indefinitely until we can gather further information 89 00:24:39.760 --> 00:24:56.799 or make arrangements for >> people to be here. >> Go. Yeah, >> that's what I know. I did reach out to them. Oh yeah, I would make a motion to that effect. >> Yeah, especially with this with >> there being no coordinating point of sale. You know, 90 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:12.080 >> one thing to notice, we we get >> continue without the motion is to continue without a finding to a date certain. >> Well, until we can get the >> inspector comes in, >> the state inspector in here to >> that's the motion. >> I think we should put a limit on this. I do not think we should be waiting a year 91 00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:28.480 for this state inspector to show up. >> I don't think that's going to happen. >> Okay. I'm just saying I don't think it's fair to have anything. >> Put a date on it. >> Be a month time a year. That's what it is. >> Yeah. Are you okay with that? >> Yes. >> One thing I was going to say is that we get liquor deliveries twice a week from these liquor companies. We get wrong 92 00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:45.520 deliveries all the time. People confuse our store. Kingston Food and Liquor Open. It's so similar to our name. I know it's Kingston Food, but it's Kingston Food. We get their deliveries. They they get their deliver they get our deliveries, which is like an ABCC violation of liquor companies. They just make mistakes. on it 93 00:25:45.520 --> 00:26:00.799 >> and >> well assuming that this motion moves forward. >> Yeah. >> This will give you time as well if you want to print out what you have. Correct. >> And bring that with you as well if this comes to fruition, which I don't know whether or not it will. >> Yes. >> But the point being that's that's what I 94 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:16.480 would move to do. >> Okay. Let's throw that motion. Yeah. >> Second it. >> I will second. Did you get it? >> Can you like redo it? change the continue finding to a date uh to date certain >> how about June 5th? 95 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:31.440 >> No, >> we don't need to put a date on it. We can leave this until >> September is going to be >> okay. >> Believe me, I'll be on the phone tomorrow. >> Okay. >> So, a date to be determined is my motion. >> Date to be determined and we'll notify that. 96 00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:46.320 >> Thank you. Thank you. >> That's the best I think we should do. It'll appear to everybody. Gives everybody some time and You have you have a you have a right to contest and uh the state >> we have a responsibility to then at that point you're going to contest I await 97 00:26:46.320 --> 00:27:02.799 the evidence make a determination >> and I think the state the burden should be on the states they're the ones making these allegations we're coming in we got these notice two or three weeks later we're playing touchup trying to find out what happened so we're like >> yeah if it if they gave simultaneous 98 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:19.919 notice it would be so much better so if they came in and b bought the tobacco then came right in 10 minutes later, 20 minutes later. >> They're not they don't want to get involved in a confrontational situation, but that's their policy. >> Even if they even mailed it the next day, you would get them in a few days 99 00:27:19.919 --> 00:27:35.600 would be nice. Unless I'm not getting them. That's >> I know. >> Yeah. No, but it's just it creates a situation here where we get a notice three weeks later and we're going over our camera footage. we're going and and we're trying to a >> lot of time a lot of time elapses from this thing and it makes it difficult for 100 00:27:35.600 --> 00:27:51.919 not just us for any store owner to go back and say like did this happen and then we're questioning this guy like did you sell this he's like no I didn't Billy >> and then we're going through all the and then we're questioning him whether he's telling us the truth >> and then you know so like it's it's the whole thing >> how long do how long of a turnaround do 101 00:27:51.919 --> 00:28:08.640 we have coming from the state giving us the violation notice >> it can be a week it could be two weeks And I think also it has to do with the time of year. It's usually right around the holidays which >> is to me not the optimal time for them 102 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:24.000 to be doing them like it >> but I don't get a say in it. >> Okay. >> Cameras. >> Yes. Okay. >> And we check the cameras. We couldn't find anything around that time. Nothing. So we're like And then it puts us in a situation where almost accused with our employees like what happened? Because 103 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:40.399 you're getting this thing and you're trying to figure it out. >> Yeah. You're trying to recreate the scenario and >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we appreciate that. >> Thank you guys. >> Yeah. You're all >> sending off I'll let you know you luck. 104 00:28:40.399 --> 00:28:58.640 >> Good luck to you, sir. Thank you for coming here. >> Thank you for coming. >> I'm going to make a motion to close. >> I'll close the public hearing. >> I'm going to make a motion to close the public hearing for Kingston Liars. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. Okay. Um Okay. minutes 105 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:12.960 >> to close it. No, to um >> continue. >> Yeah, >> continue. And um I got some minutes everybody look at them. >> I did. Yep. 106 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:33.679 >> You got a motion on those minutes. >> Make a motion to accept the minutes. I have to warm them up. the third. I don't have that. Um, 107 00:29:33.679 --> 00:29:52.480 >> April 6th. Yes. As presented. >> Second. >> That's the only reason I like that sheet. I know. >> All in favor? >> Okay, Joyce, you're up. >> Um, so 108 00:29:52.480 --> 00:30:09.679 skeptics are picking up. Um, food inspections are going smoothly. We haven't had any major issues. Uh, haven't really seen much of an uptick in permitting as far as 109 00:30:09.679 --> 00:30:27.840 residential, you know, like kitchens or food establishments has been pretty slow. Um, we have had a couple of like nuisance complaints to do with trash. Um, and 110 00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:42.799 there's um I got something from the animal control today that has to do with Nelson Street that literally just came in later this afternoon. So, I'll be checking in with them. It had to do with some rehoming of animals because there's an issue with the house. So, I may get 111 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:58.559 called in on that. Um, as far as for the department, Lori will be attending um, pool operator training next week. We'll also be attending the Miha conference. It's a one-day thing in Malbor. It's 112 00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:13.760 going to have some topics that, you know, probably pretty relevant to our the cannabis updates. Um, also about ticks right now. That's obviously a big concern. Um, our nurse is killing it. 113 00:31:13.760 --> 00:31:29.840 She is just unbelievable. Um, she wrote a a quick little blurb for us. Uh, so she's continuing her weekly visits at the COA. Definitely an uptick in how many people are getting their blood pressure and and 114 00:31:29.840 --> 00:31:46.480 checks and just checkins. We also um she's also been submitting pieces for their newsletter, just little blurbs. uh working on setting up some trainings or or uh classes with Holly. So, there'll be some 115 00:31:46.480 --> 00:32:03.279 presentations going forward. We were supposed to do CPR training with the COA, but it turns out that they aren't ready yet. They the people they have their certifications don't run out for a little while, so they're going to hold off, which is which is fine. will be 116 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:18.159 offered to do it for the schools for >> Well, the problem is we have to charge money for it because it costs us money to get the cards and the books. So, there is a fee associated with it and I'm pretty sure the schools aren't going to want to pay it. So, we we're going to 117 00:32:18.159 --> 00:32:35.760 open it up to the COA and and do some and offer it to the participants at the COA if anybody's interested in taking. >> Can we even offer it like the recess like or like a wreck class? We're trying to start slow because we haven't done it yet. So, we'd like to just keep it a 118 00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:53.200 small class till we all three of us have done it and gone through it. Um, I don't know the kids or the opportunity. >> I am happy to be your uh test student. >> Thanks. >> I've taken BLS. Um, >> I'd like to do that too when you guys are ready. >> So, it's what we it's 35, right? Yes. 119 00:32:53.200 --> 00:33:07.919 So, that covers the book that you need and the t the cards because we have to pay for them to issue cards. Oh, I know. >> Which is really mind-blowing. >> I wonder if we could find a grant so that we didn't so that we could just buy 120 00:33:07.919 --> 00:33:24.640 like 20 books. >> Yeah. >> And keep the books, you know, people could use them during class or sign them up before the class and leave a $35 check and we give them back the check when they give us back the book. >> Taking a Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Because most people will read the book 121 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:38.960 when they do it and not look at it again, >> right? No, I know. you know, and that >> but I'm fine with that. We just had to have an initial investment to get everything up and running. I was able to get the dummies through the grant. 122 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:54.640 >> Um, so that was helpful. And it's Plymouth and and us are the only two towns that decided to do the training. So the the mannequins are housed here. If if at any point anybody else from the other towns get certified, we would 123 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:10.639 share them with them. But they'll be our they'll be in the town of Kingston. So >> um we've reached out to the uh AD's office um a DA's office to get ads AEDs 124 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:26.879 put in Kingston Library, one for the town hall, a second one for the town hall because I think we have one on the first floor but we don't have vice versa. We have one on one floor but not the other. So we're trying to get another one. one for the highway department and one for the BO house. Um 125 00:34:26.879 --> 00:34:42.560 >> I think there's one at the dump. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm saying it backwards. The AEDs we reached out to to get for certain places. We're waiting to see how many we can get. Um and then we reached out. We're also trying to get the name 126 00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:59.359 the locks of boxes for the places that I just named the townhouse, the BO house, the highway department, and the library. >> Do you guys know what the locka boxes are? >> Okay. >> So, and they're free, so 127 00:34:59.359 --> 00:35:13.359 >> you can get them. Why not? >> Yeah. Uh we also will be having I'm currently in the last stages of the housing training which is the tier three. It's the part of the state requirements. Um I've 128 00:35:13.359 --> 00:35:29.280 scheduled the tier three piece of the inspections for food. So hopefully by the end of the summer I'll be done with all of that and certified through the state. Um, it's just a matter of hooking up with the people that have to come 129 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:46.240 here and we have to have things to inspect. So, as we get housing cases, Paul Hoffman will come down and then the other person is from Bonsville Training Hub that does our food piece. So, I've scheduled as much of that as I can. We'll also be conducting a hazmat 130 00:35:46.240 --> 00:36:03.280 training on the 28th of May, which will be opened up. The grant is paying for this. Um it's we contracted with uh firefighters who have their own agency that does specifically does hazmat 131 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:20.079 training for nonf firefighters. So for health departments and other >> um group that might be responsible for cleaning up stuff and during the grant meeting we're talking like we get no training on this. We're responsible when things happen, but the state does not 132 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:36.400 train us on what we're supposed to do with the mercury, fluorescent light bulbs, bomb making materials when we go in for something. So, this seems like a good training to have. >> Yeah. Um, and then on the 14th of May, 133 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:53.839 the Mass Maritime group that's working with me will be here to do their tabletop presentation for active shooter for the high school and middle school. Think I'm getting that right. Um, so that'll be this will be the second year we've done it with Mass Maritime. And 134 00:36:53.839 --> 00:37:11.599 it's there's not a lot of requirement on my part, but we get a lot out of it. So, um I feel like it's a good thing for us to invest in. >> Uh let's see. Um we are now part of the Plymouth County outreach uh situational 135 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:29.040 table. We don't have to attend every time, but if we had um a case, I can think of something that's happened recently where there was a father son involved both older that this kind of thing may have been helpful in securing 136 00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:47.359 some help for the the son. Uh so at least it's something it's another tool in our box that we can access if we need some help through other agencies. Um the nurse has also done uh certification. It's called CLEA 137 00:37:47.359 --> 00:38:04.079 certification. So it's specific products to do with the blood testing, the the sugar testing and cholesterol testing that had we have to do it a certain way on certain equipment with certain standards. And so she went through all the rigma roll to get us certified so we 138 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:20.960 are correctly doing this in accordance with what the rules are. So that was good and she did just great about doing everything. Um she'll be attending the COA advisory meeting to introduce herself to the head group. She's over 139 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:35.839 there all the time and we thought it would be a good idea for her to let the advisory group know that she's around and what things we can offer. Uh, and she's also going to be doing the health fair on the 29th and and Lori will be 140 00:38:35.839 --> 00:38:53.119 attending that as well over at the COA to just have we'll have our presence know if we'll hand out tickets. We are getting more tickets in um in the next couple of weeks. I don't know when they're specifically going to arrive here because it's through the grant. So 141 00:38:53.119 --> 00:39:09.200 we are trying to look at any kind of training we can set up while we have this grant money. >> We look at that ramp up for the books. >> Um it has to we can I can ask but there's like all these very strange 142 00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:26.320 parameters as to what we can and can't buy. >> Okay. >> And they change. It's like a moving tax. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But but we could start there and there's got to be a grant some like another grant like that we >> if you can find one let me know because 143 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:41.280 I've gone on the one stop and there isn't much for health if you want to do >> streets and parks they got it >> not health it's and that's where we're supposed to apparently go for all these greens is the one stop 144 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:57.760 >> to the state um >> or I wonder if we post something you know Maybe some of the local companies would like to sponsor. >> I didn't think we were allowed to do that. >> Why can't they? Why can't we ask companies to give back? >> I was under the impression that we 145 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:13.440 weren't allowed to do that. But if if you can tell me otherwise, great. >> Well, we can take this the board of selectment has to accept the gift. But we can take gifts. >> Okay. Yeah. Well, what do we get? How many books did we got? 20. 146 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:30.880 >> 20. We have 20 that I bought with our >> How much was that? >> $35 each. >> No, that's We had a lump in how much the books were. How much >> stuff? Yeah, >> the math does come with it. >> No, I can't remember how much. 147 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:46.960 >> Oh, it doesn't even come with the book. >> I have it. >> Will you Will you get back to me on that one? Maybe. >> Maybe I will. Um, let me see what I can do. Well, um, it's taking those 20 books are taken care of out of this year's budget. So, 148 00:40:46.960 --> 00:41:02.560 it's the going forward. >> So, why don't we So, why don't instead of us giving these books, why don't we make them a loaner program? >> That I I don't care. That's fine. >> What do you guys think of that? Because that would drop the cost of the CPR class for people. Yeah. 149 00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:19.440 >> And we could get more people in town CPR certified. Hence >> save creating a safer town. >> What if we only charge $10? >> How much? >> I I have to look at >> We have to do a break down. >> Yeah. And I can't do it because you have the card. The card costs the oneway 150 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:35.599 valve mask cost >> and wipes. There's a whole bunch of stuff that we have to we have to buy the wipes. The wip dummy, you know, like there's all these pieces. So, we try to >> figure out, okay, how much are we going to use and break it down so we're 151 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:52.560 covering our costs. >> Yeah, let's figure that out >> because when the grant goes away, >> let's figure this out so that we can make it >> affordable. >> Affordable and get as many people trained as possible because >> Yeah. So, and then the only other thing 152 00:41:52.560 --> 00:42:07.839 I have is we completed another serve safe class. So, I probably won't do one again till like the end of summer, you know, maybe maybe August depending. It just really depends on how busy we are. >> But it was good. >> It was a great club. 153 00:42:07.839 --> 00:42:26.640 >> We had a a good We we always we've been having a really good turnout. So, >> that's wonderful. >> Yeah, >> there's definitely a need. >> Yeah, that's all on the side. I thought of you, Joyce. I was the first one at the buffet bar at 154 00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:42.319 this celebration. I was >> lucky you. >> Are there any other questions on the health agents report? >> Okay. Hearing none outstanding business, residential 155 00:42:42.319 --> 00:42:56.880 kitchens and wholesale licenses. Yeah, we haven't really addressed that, but we had a we talked about I think um Rosemary and had that put on to continue. So, >> okay. 156 00:42:56.880 --> 00:43:16.800 >> Retail food food service permits >> that's part of the same thing. I don't know why. >> Okay. >> On there. >> Readress wanted it on there. So, it's fine. We'll just move along. >> We'll move it on. >> What's this about? Readress food inspection postings and greetings. 157 00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:32.640 >> Remember we talked about maybe putting grading. Dennis wanted >> Oh yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> Yeah, we tabled it for another >> basically all of this is one is Rosemary. >> Okay. >> Request to table. So >> Okay. 158 00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:47.040 >> Yeah. >> Okay. Any other business? >> I have nothing hearing none. I'd like some proper uh a motion to adjourn, but before I do, I want to say thank you very much. It's been a 159 00:43:47.040 --> 00:44:02.400 pleasure you're serving because we probably won't meet before the election, so I may not be back. >> Stay close for me. >> Before you guys um close out the meeting, there was one I want to bring one thing to your attention. 160 00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:18.960 Uh >> what's the name of >> Republic did not again did not turn in their uh quarterly reports and that's the one that you guys um had said if they did it again they're done. So you 161 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:36.880 sent them a letter >> they did not that's you know I believe that's the letter that you guys had us send >> in September >> in September. And their report was due on April 30th and it is not in and we are now. 162 00:44:36.880 --> 00:45:04.880 So you guys can tell me what you want to do. >> Certified. >> Yes. >> The certified is attached. What would anyone like to do? is part of a regulation. >> Yeah. >> And we have to abide by the regulation. 163 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:23.520 >> There's a regulation telling us whether or not that we wrote >> that you're supposeding and you guys said that if they did not comply that they would not be allowed to be permitted to pick up trash in the town. >> Okay. >> So I'm just giving >> So they're not complying. 164 00:45:23.520 --> 00:45:38.560 >> They're not complying. So again, this goes so They're they're right to do business in this town under that license. >> Period. >> Is it something that you need to have a hearing and we need to have them come? I I'm asking you because I I want to know what how you 165 00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:54.240 >> have to notify them if the board wants to suspend or revoke their business license in the community and invite them to attend a public hearing and we have to post that public hearing and that'll be that. >> Okay, >> that's the procedure. Would the format 166 00:45:54.240 --> 00:46:10.160 be that they're hereby notifies that the right to do business under that license is suspended and that suspension will become permanent after the public hearing. >> Can do it that way. >> Yeah. Other was, you know, I don't want them, oh, we didn't show up, so you 167 00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:25.359 can't do anything. No, this is it. You're suspended now. You have a public hearing to you're back. >> Okay. My question is though, with what teeth do you think I'm like, how am I supposed >> You don't have their customer list. No. 168 00:46:25.359 --> 00:46:41.760 >> Yeah. Like they can ride all around our town. >> Well, and pick up trash. Like I say all >> we can do because we're we're not going to have patrols out there looking for one, Eron. But we can notify the police department that >> right 169 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:57.119 >> this business is suspended for the school. >> Huh? I don't know. >> We can advertise it. >> So, do you want me to just send a letter saying I mean because saying that they're currently suspended, there's no peak to it, >> right? 170 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:13.280 >> I think they do this all. >> Well, >> I think they are the trash for the school. >> Well, in that case, um, >> check with Sean, see if that's the case. 171 00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:29.280 Because whoever it is, it's very early that they collect. Very early. >> You know. >> Oh, I hear it. >> So, who do you want me to talk to? Sean. >> Sean. >> He'll know who picks up the trash for the school. >> Yeah, >> he very well may. If not, a simple email to 172 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:46.000 >> Yeah. What's Mike? Mike uh is the head dude for the schools. >> Jill Farrell is the >> No, but he's the head guy. >> Okay. I don't I I don't keep track of whoa. I keep track of the >> All right. So, what do you want the 173 00:47:46.000 --> 00:48:05.400 fleta to say to this company that is currently suspended or they need to appear for a hearing for permanent re revocation of their permit? >> Health is considering whatever it is that they're supposed to be doing 174 00:48:05.839 --> 00:48:22.640 suspending and or revoking. >> Well, We we have two bill we have two two levels. Suspension means that they can't operate. Revoke means they can't operate ever. >> That's right. >> Right. I'm just trying to get a letter. What needs to be said in the letter that 175 00:48:22.640 --> 00:48:37.680 I'm going to send out tomorrow? >> Well, that's where we will go. >> Yeah. Right. I know public hearing on such and such a date. >> What is the board is considering due to lack of >> compliance. Compliance reporting compliance. Yeah. Sorry. 176 00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:53.760 >> Yeah. Yeah. 12. >> Yeah. >> The per revocation of permit to operate in the town of Kingston. >> Yes. >> Suspension or revocation be a permit to operate. >> Okay. So now what? So it's not 177 00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:10.000 permanent. It's suspension >> after if they come to the hearing, they've got a case or whatever the problem is, they rectify it and we suspend it for a period of time. That's one thing. On the other hand, if we they don't even show up this that and the other, we say, "Hey, you know what? >> Yes, >> you're all that's good. We don't want to 178 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:26.720 do business with you anymore now or ever." >> Well, actually, what they have if they if they are operate if we have I don't know. Are they suspended currently? >> No. >> No, >> that's on us. >> We're just chasing them right now for um 179 00:49:26.720 --> 00:49:42.480 reporting information. We're not getting it. So, this is what we're going to do. We're going to schedule some public hearing and if they choose to come and put in their >> Yeah. By the way, they failed to appear for the last hearing. So, they obviously aren't taking this very serious. 180 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:57.839 >> Well, this time it will because you're telling them if they don't show up, we're going to revoke their license to operate within the community. >> Nothing happen. They don't show up. They will show up. No, >> it's up >> because if they operate if they operate, >> you guys read what you wrote though. 181 00:49:57.839 --> 00:50:13.839 >> Go ahead. You guys wrote that Republic failed to appear for the hearing. The board made the following unanimous motion to terminate Republic's permit and to suspend that termination so long as they made timely compliance. 182 00:50:13.839 --> 00:50:32.640 No further violations for one year, otherwise it will result in automatic loss of right to operate in the town. That takes actually >> telling you to tell them that it's going to be suspended or suspended now. 183 00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:50.400 >> I say we follow through with our letter. >> Yeah. Dennis, you know, you know, it's like telling a child this is the last time I'm going to say, and then they do it again. This is not the last time. Really? I think this is the last time. >> Well, that's why it needs to stay revoked until your hearing. The board of 184 00:50:50.400 --> 00:51:05.760 health has determined that your permit is to operate in this town as a trash hauler is revoked. Revoked immediately revoked >> as per our notification date of that letter. >> Yeah, reference that letter. >> Authority to operate with this town is revoked. 185 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:24.640 >> Yeah, reference that letter too. Yeah, that's right. Good. >> Police department has been notified. But if they get that letter, that'll be true. Well, I'll have it served by constable. I'm not playing the game of the um 186 00:51:24.640 --> 00:51:38.400 >> yeah, >> it's certified mail to take like must go to China before we get >> the thing is they if they are picking up at the school and they continue to pick up that's then you have somebody who is 187 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:54.720 uh flaunting your author our authority the board's authority and say you know >> what is a violation and then There should be fines, daily fines for that. >> Sure. >> But we also have to look at it this way from a health standpoint that we need 188 00:51:54.720 --> 00:52:11.920 the trash picked up >> so that we don't create a public health hazard. >> Yeah. >> So that's why I'd be curious. Will you follow up with and figure out who's picking up especially like schools trash? >> Guys, hold on. You wanted to say vote of health has revoked the permit to operate 189 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:29.839 at the trash hall in the town of Kingston immediately. >> Yeah. as per and I reference the uh the previous notification they got >> as per. It wasn't that suddenly out of nowhere >> notification and 190 00:52:29.839 --> 00:52:46.640 clear my >> What a shame. They must have an awful lot of business to ignore. >> They don't care. They just think nobody's going to do anything. >> Tiger >> for you from the girl. >> Oh, 191 00:52:46.640 --> 00:53:04.640 >> all right. >> They didn't want anymore. >> They didn't want him to go bad. Well, they get scrap. >> Next time I'll shove them in the kitchen. >> I heard a motion, but I've never got a second. 192 00:53:04.640 --> 00:53:20.559 >> I think you made the motion. >> Motion. >> You made the motion. Somebody's got a second. >> Second. >> Cheryl seconds the motion to adjourn. Dennis made the motion. >> Did we go on? >> Yes, he did. But then Jerry, there was >> that other discussion. Now we're back to 193 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:37.160 that same motion. The chair seconding it and all in favor I. >> And that's that law. >> Thank you, Larry. >> Next meeting is June 17th. >> No, it's May 18th. >> I mean, they moved everything.