3:45 a.m. Call the Kingston Commission meeting to order a motion to approve the minutes from June 24th. I move that we approve the minutes of June 24th as published. So moved and voted. Our first appointment is Doug
Carver from 168 Street in condition. 18 is the one that's They were at one time both cottages and then 16 was raised in basement as is
to the best of my knowledge they had from from way back long before I was aware of it. I built this property because I did stream
They both have their own. They both have their own water heaters. They both have their own electric service. You say both have their own means. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and the we call it
we call 16 the house, 18 the cottage. 16 we did 18. Yeah, one closer to the road. 16's closer 16. Oh, that's 16. Okay, that's 16. That's it.
You said there's seven sewer services that Yeah, the sewer sewer for 16. If you're looking at streets down from the left front corner of the house out to the street uh 18, it comes from the house
towards the property line up to the street two separate few years ago for what it's worth back to this. This is originally four lots panel then. So we call it the back lots.
We're going to move it back and orient towards and we're approved. We're approved to do that. The utilities the east side of the property to the sewer. the pitches all work
down Standard Street. There's water that comes up standard, but the sewer stops at the name of the street. So, so there was no sewer. So, we left we were leaving the sewer in place and we were going to do a new electric
service. the electric service comes in off the pole uh to the front right corner street goes over to the house and back to the cottage. So we were going to move the cottage back
a new water service and run a new electric service that underground just a lot and that was all approved but then the whole feet So what what happened with the water
which is why is apparently when they did the basement of 16 in the back right corner of the house in the basement is a one inch line that comes into that
that comes up and tease and goes off to a meter or 16 and then it goes back through the wall foundation over to 2 meters and 16 two note there's two meters one is in 16 it
splits before that meter and goes over the 18 that me outside so they're both me one is one is me at 16 is service comes in one service
primary res. So what what we're we're currently selling it. So yeah, sometimes today Um, so we're we're selling it and there's been inquiries and you know
they're asking to do and I told what I had approved and all this stuff and apparently there's been a new water services what I'm here to ask is because at the time one of the things that we were told was yeah you really need to separate those that's a bad setup and I agree
it's kind of dumb house yeah it's no longer Yeah. Yeah. So, and I don't know why they did. I wasn't there. You guys probably just want to interject one thing wherever you had proposed years ago part of those discussions never recorded or
accepted by it wasn't approved. You had proposals that it was approved. They weren't recorded to fall back on. No, we we it was approved. We just didn't proceed to the building permanent stage and and we didn't know that we
current. So, so what we're we're asking now is to basically have the option same thing and frankly I would probably not do what I'm doing but because it's a bad bad position I'm assuming
want to add and that's right where the pipes are. The last thing that wants to see is Unfortunately, the issue is you got one inch line going and if you want to add it, you got to add another line.
Yeah. That's the smart way to do it. It's not really It's not really adding source over. Yeah, they already have a service there. It's just kind of a weird system, but from what I understand, it's the Well, we talked about a little before, too.
The fact it's one lot. You haven't subdivided the lot yet. It's not going to be any more water. Yeah. But it's it's I think most the bylaws are we have one service per month. So once they're subdivided then I think it's a easy call that service
there whatever that could that would be a prerequisite me this would not be a change in our moratorium. It would be a simple adjustment for what's on going on this property with no additional
water. You turn on that service right now. It's on. Okay. So, right now just re recl the one the one that goes from 16. Yeah. And then add one to 18.
But I think with there's one service going to that one service. And so once they subdivide that then I think go ahead do that. But I think that's that's prerequisite to to getting.
Yeah, I think I proceed with extreme caution that if you did subdivide it service, that's what was discussed. I don't mean I don't think it was out there 15 years ago. They would talk build new
structural garage and bring water in offsh and and I went and dug and checked because we had some couple of boulder heads sticking up and we went down around not as much as it seems to be. I can't
speak with the private plan but I just cautious on a new tapenuating circumstances here but the ultimate to take it down because the sewer
is down the street for you're going to sell it, right? The whole thing. You're selling the whole lot. You're selling the whole thing. Okay. I'm not plann Not at this time.
But but I would had it approved as 200 by 100 because we have furniture. So that's that's why I'm here. Don't say that it changes anything except that it
basically structure source when I build and let them know what this is like This would be no different. The current situation with the ADUs, the ADUs have a
serving subservate service on one purpose of that grandfather as a single family separate house except it's a single lot. This this 109
[Music] that's two dwellings on how many square feet is 1800. Oh yeah. So be qualified but you don't I wouldn't
get grandfathered as is just get water using that weird setup that currently exists where it's separated in one of the buildings the other building and if it's two separate owners that creates a
real problem. Yeah. And even if it's not even if it's still one building underground place to do something anyway it my issue is that as a single property
that you have basically inu I think for lack of a better term you know like grandfather because you have two meters for that if someone buys that house you have to have a subdivided in order to do that right and that subdivision I think is what's I
in my mind is required before you can start re plumbing all that because it already has a separate right now but there's a separate property line now it needs to have been cleaned up so I think if you're not going to subdivide I think
it's going to up to whoever buys it to to kind of play with that. Come back to us. Well, okay. One one of the problems is somebody that was looking at it said that oh there's a three different things but that's what their opinion was when
they came back. They said it was a two year, three year, five year, seven year moratorum. We can't do anything. It's like you already have a service. Yeah. So if subdivided to me it's got a service and so then that could be without being too much of an issue with
the moratorium you can come back later after the moratorium is real to get a separate service for that would be easy I know more state is they've got case that this has a separate service need
for that to situation. You have anybody to subdivide a lot say that shed out. Well, there's two two separate bills and two separate addresses. So, I think that's kind of what separates it from it does make this two separate addresses
and two separate bills. Yeah. But I think until it's subdivided, I don't think I support doing anything. So, how would we get something? Well, we the last time we did it, what they said is first move the
building and make it live again, which is part of doing the water on Standard Street. Okay. And then I'm questioning that now because there's a lot of places that have gone up that are
nothing similar down else. Yeah, I'll bet. I'll bet it did. But that's why the property does Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was a good thing for a lot of reasons, but um
Bay is clean. Yeah, that's that's my big thing, which is a big thing. Um but uh terms of why they wanted to move the house process. Yeah. So, so that's what
they were saying then and and then going for the subdivision and going for they wanted the the cottage live again online store
to to do that I I don't think that's where it would be now a different process just a cumbersome process you should be able to do it say here's our plan here's doing and
this this and then it's done. Want to sell this? I'm getting tired just [Music] um I I I enjoy this kind of stuff. It's just it's just yesterday.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I get it. I would just be cautious with this because if you do service it a different way 18 and still one thing lots it crunch both
structures put one structure on that now you have two services going just to me you have to have some stuff that you know the idea of moving a house first before you there's a lot of things that have to get synchronized
I also understand why that because you get subdivisions I understand I mean people that appreciated it up for people that do but but by right it's got that right anyway
says 37 I think right now especially the moratorum it has to be subdivided before they can do it if the moratorum is left in the next year or two whatever especially when we have a new well coming then I I think it's you know you want to add a new service there we add
new service but right now the board uses it a bit and until it's subdivided I don't think we can so many came in because these are questions came in I would approve it because it already had a bill for Yeah, my reason for
saying it has to be a second one per lot. So you have one two buildings on it. When did that I don't know the memoriz
[Music] 22 years and this is this is this is why you have two lines thereates all of that why it's different can keep using it the way it is
we're we've got a new well coming in so in the next year or two we're probably have more attention hopefully maybe even sooner if we hear back from the D about some other concerns we we have that if it's not a concern to the D then we can possibly consumer
but we still waiting to hear back from that so by the end of summer we hope to have at least a little more solidity on what our plans are for the moratorum how long it's going to last wells would probably take three years right
minimum so this is Um, but if it if we can get uh some permission from the state, we might be able to lift it sooner. So stay tuned. I think right now I don't know we can do much.
So the subdivision would trigger an okay for that. Yeah. And without worry about my opinion. All right. Two three votes right here. Yeah. I mean, for right now, if I was just there, the houses are made a difference.
It's working. It's fine. It's just It's just that once you start digging and moving things around this one, the water Oh yeah, you guys were great about that. I felt so bad.
All right. Well, that that's that's okay. All right, we're going to be a little more helpful. No, that's all right. It clarifies the When people come in, they don't know what they're really asking. Kristen, you're on deck there.
Thank you. Okay. Um, yes. So, the first item that we have is the update on the new well. So, I'll let um Kirsten speak to that since she's right in front of you. You guys
page like what I wanted to cover with you today too far in the weeds and any questions. Okay. So, first thing um wanted to talk about task one that's the well-designed cast. Um and the first handout I have
here is brief memo that we prepared at the end of June just documenting the results of the first item shortterm or 4hour public tests do the two test wells.
tested for about four hours each wells. As a result of that clear that testific water quality results, no surprises there comparable to the existing travel pond. Well, TWW4A is much better in terms of the
expected field estimate at least around 650 or more per minute size well installed at that location were low in that that initial sample and
it's not fully represented exactly there was one compound that was like detected at point8 per liter which is below the reporting
limit. So high enough the lab but it was essentially non regulatory. So this amount documents that we're recommending of site 4A and the
substantial out here the next is the WS7. So this is a draft of the large package information that we for
the site this is This is a good site to speak at this particular site. How we propose to conduct the public test at this site walk you through maybe just a table of contents like ask your question. Yeah, of course.
is uh the P4 site is that one that would facilitate the possibility of putting another well in the vicinity of that property talked about this extensively about possibility there being two you know what I'm talking about
yeah it's it is that one the one that that where we're trying to target to be able to leave the northern area of the property to be able will achieve a 400 ft circle
um or radius I should say but this is the one that we're hoping to yeah this is the one we were hoping for you know and not knowing what the other soil conditions are in the northern end of the property just looking at space okay yep yeah this is definitely
radius so this this submitt we uh for credit draft and submitted it to Chris and Kristen I think mid last week and then Kristen reviewed it like you know I don't know within a matter of hours she got comments back for us um so we talked
through those comments yesterday I think two major a lot of like smaller things couple of tweaks and so we incorporated those edits into this we're on track yeah yeah I would say so for sure um I think we lost a little bit time of the
driller not getting out. Yeah. Yeah. Water. So, um we're we're asking for a review by you folks of this document. Um so, let me walk you through a little bit by looking at the table of content
here. And I did not print every single page that's going to get submitted to the a lot of supporting material that goes to the appendices that I have stacked this week to provide. So basically provided the narrative, some
of the some of the maps that are maybe of interest and then some of the supporting appendics that provides the alternatives analysis narrative justifying why this source and not an interconnection,
you know, a whole new well on the other side of town. I think that would I don't know water different water different ways to treat water understood and that's we we understand um especially the work that Kristen has
done and the study from last year that provides a really good basis for when we crafted the narrative um that alternatives analysis um it's very specific what is required to submit this packet to be
wants you to look at the no action. It wants you to explain why you're not doing it. What about weak detection? Enough with that to solve your issues. So there's a lot in there that we have
to explain why that's not the best source. So you know that that is appendix D actually. So I think that's one thing where you know we want you to be comfortable with the narrative something in there
that you can't needs to be rewarded. Basically this this document the narrative goes through the project history all the previous studies all the test well drilling that was done 80 up to this is the site you know this is why
you purchased the land and chapter two the request for site exam this is all really deep we're saying zoning around this site so wants to know is there anything
nearby waterhed that has potential to pay this source choice by industrial things. We walk through that. And then the other part is are there any
sensitive resources that might be negatively impacted by the development of this endangered species etc. Um fortunately we don't see any issues there. Um there is a tiny isolated vegetative wetland
close to the post site. Um we have the wetland surveyor went out there. They report they decided it was a pond. It's actually the NGI report called it's not it's not a state regulated
resource. It's it is subject to the local shrub. It's very small. So we will you know we will need to file That's and then section three is a request for
pumping test approval. This is where we describe this is how we propose to go about conducting the public test or minimum five day test that starts with drilling an 8 in test well
to 4. So the 8 in test well becomes the actual well that will become tested and the existing in will become an all. So this is all together
the next step which is the moneys we bless this site go ahead and we bless your methodology so the methodology is very prescriptive in these guidelines for public water system so a lot of that
is kind anywhere that's high level what's in this document approval. This is what they So once we submit it, they have um per their regulations, they have up to 66 calendar days, I believe, review it.
Hoping they'll review it in shorter time frame. Um planning to reach out to the reviewer, you know, probably next week just to give her a heads up. This is coming. Yeah. So hopefully uh hopefully they'll be able to more quickly southeast region
in my experience a lot better. You guys be ready to go once the timeline. Oh, we'll have everything lined up so that we'll make sure our some preliminary work that we can start
doing like identifying where we're handriven that's material for that. It's always possible that they may come back and say additional observation. only propose two additional observation
wells. Why would they want? So they they want to see um that you have wells at a sufficient disting like they usually want something within
say 50 100 ft. I think we're pretty well covered there but we you know they may want So we want to know that um the observation wells would be a 2 in well similar to what's out there in that
area already. We're planning to use existing test wells and observation wells in our coverage in terms of you really want to have on a radius like north. We're trying to
show them the draw down. this way. This way. So that is in there. I did also have a great discussion with the technical lead for the new source program
I know very well. So I wanted to run by them propos and what they're going to require. But you know as far as like how he approaches some of the requirements I think it's probably
Okay. So, yeah, as far as next steps, um right now the board get comments back. in your comments. Yeah, it's not what you're comfortable with the changes that you Oh, yes.
Yeah, we Yeah, we walked through my comments yesterday. Um there were only a few things. Overall, it's a very good report because to be honest, I'll be reading through this and a lot of this is going to be like great to me, but y um you're the person that's kind of
that's Yeah, I mean it's Yeah, very thorough. How do you typically handle that? You know, I don't know your process analysis might be something
else to read that. Chris, is there anything you recommend focusing on for us besides appendix D? Um, no. Oh, I mean the first couple of sections of the report do give a a good overview. Um, so I'd probably
just look at that the alternatives analysis and then the work that they're proposing to do just so you have an understanding of what's involved in the next step. Okay. section 3.3.
Yeah, this 3.4 is how we're going to pump test. Like I said, that's pretty much the guidelines. background. Okay, I got really that covers that item. Um very brief
update on the task two station design. Um so may know we had our surveyor cond First phase of their survey. So what our our design and civil team have been trying to do is look at the
topography, look at potential road alignments for access roads. Matt Miller, are you on the on the zoom? Yes, I am. What is that? Matt, this is Kirst. If you have any questions for the road
alignment, yeah, um I can't really hear anything that's being said at the table. So, if you need me, just wave your arms around or something. I can't hear you either. Perfect. A second. Hold on.
That's as high as we can go. So, maybe if we can turn and talk to that. Okay. Um well just to update the commissioners um Matt and Tyler I believe had No, you had Matt and Tyler.
I I spoke with I met with Matt. Okay. So basically um we in this figure here you can see we prepare several options for road alignments. Alignment A, B, and C. Um this the test well location is to the
south of this page that was provided with this hand out at some point. So the shortest and uh the third alignment is road alignment C which goes from the test well site or postwell site to
the northeast um up to the existing pump station to the east side of travel. Um, so the topography out there is pretty pretty tough. It's a lot, you know, up and down. It's really, you know, topography.
Uh, the other alignments would require a ton more tree clearing. They're a lot longer distance. So, while alignment C is in the buffers um of Tropical Pond for a short section,
not the entire way at all. So of the three alignments, it does impact the buffer zone more than the other two, but the trade-off there is, you know, the tree clearing issue. So this this memo that's at the back of
your packet kind of compares the three alignments um in terms of buffer zone impact, tree clearing, cut and fill cost, pipe cost, pavement cost, and A and B are significantly more cost.
significantly more cut and fill, significantly more street clearing. So we prepared this to you know try to show our thought process to that. Yeah.
Yeah. alignment. We we would prefer that we understand we'll need to file a notice of intent and design it to avoid minimizing and mitate impacts on the wetland buffer zone. Yeah, I think you're making the case to the commission that um go
think you're making the case to the commission that although you know there are alternatives to get out of the buffer zone that those would be generally more damaging to the area surrounding the pond by clearing a lot more trees and you know bringing in more fill. Um, so you know, you may be able
to make a good case and maybe in the portions that are in the buffer zone, maybe be able to slightly pitch the the pavement away from from the wetland. Um, yeah. So, I think there are ways to, you know, show that you're being as as least
impactful as you can be while still having to be in the buffer zone. Yeah. Which makes Yes. Yes. So, I think our next step, Matt, would be to, you know, once we get a little
further on in the design process, you know, to prepare a draft filing, I I don't know if it makes sense to go to the commission at this point. I mean, unless you know you know them obviously better than I do, it's up to you. Um, you can put together
a draft and kick it by me. Um, or you can just put the whole thing together and file it. Um, yeah. I mean, it it really doesn't matter one way or the other. I mean, it's not I mean, it you know, you're probably most filings, most NOIs, you're looking at a minimum of a
couple of meetings typically. Um, and either way you're looking at, you know, around a month, maybe month and a half between filing, you know, information receipt deadlines and and uh scheduling the meeting and all that. So, um, yeah,
I don't think it really matters one way or the other, but feel free if you want to, you know, run a draft by me and get feedback, that's fine, too. That might help, um, expedite the process a little bit. Okay. Appreciate that. Yeah. Cool.
that you know that it doesn't look like alignment is a deal breaker you're going to have the surveyorize survey on that alignment they will actually pick up individual trees so we
know how many trees that process so they don't become a problem. Okay. Um third item on my list agenda is the WS26 land acquisition. This is something that we discussed this with the
approval on their water supply. approvals list related to acquiring plants for water supply purposes. Um, and so when I discuss that with Bruce B and his other staffer, they didn't think that it was
going to be a huge issue at all. Um they did give me a name of addition contact that work but basically you know pretty sure that
water pretty determined that water Okay. So, that's good to know. That was one question I had on my mind and when I reached out to I'll discuss that with her. That's the whole purpose behind this
making sure that if it is for water supply that water department's office So didn't think that it's going to require public hearing, but sounds like
the goal is to slow things down. Yeah. But the goal is to get it done. Yeah. No, I don't think it's going to be it's not going to be like a but we'll find out exactly what they want to check. Okay. Um last on my list was the SRF
funding application. Um so that's the construction funding application. evaluation form that's progressed. We should have something ready sometime next week for Kristen to review
a brief narrative about the project estimated project where you come in the file there. Yes, you're allowed to file this. So I have I have motion.
Yeah. When we did the Grassyhole treatment plant project, um that you guys voted to have the chair be the authorized representative. Um so at the time it was Bud. So he was the one who got the um the sign off vote for that.
But you're basically voting for to approve the chair and the form that gets submitted right now says that and then it points out that um Bob's the current chair. So I imagine we'll have to do it
again if the project gets selected and we proceed to the next step that would be the SRF application. They'll want to see it get voted again and resubmit the same paperwork. Okay. And I move to authorize chair the
port water commission's act on behalf of the applicant as its agent to file applications and execute agreements for grant and or loan assistance as well as such information data and documents pertaining to the applicant for a grants
of loans as may be required otherwise to act as authorized representative of the applicant connection with this application for the following project. Dr. So moved and adopted. However it is that happens.
So yeah, just to wrap up next steps. Um again that WS and see all the sausages made other ways. I got to go. All right. Thank you.
Yeah. Kristen, thank you. Matt, anything left on Main Street? Kristen? Um, no. Right now it's been quiet. We sent over the updated list of issues for
CC to address. Um in between the last meeting and now um we were prepared a revised list. They there were a few valve boxes that did get paved over. So Chris and the guys went out and
identified those. So we sent CC that revised list. They need to it it should just be a little coding. Um cuz they raised everything. They spent more than a day adjusting structures
so that they wouldn't be paved over. Um and so it should only just be a little bit that they have to clear off to expose for access. Um, so if there's an issue like uh, you know, a water man break or a service break and you need to
isolate an area of the distribution system, you want to be able to actually get on the gates. You don't want to have the guys now having to clear them off, you know, get the asphalt off before they were able to get on the gate, turn the key. This is not
contract. They got to come back and fix it. Yes. Have to raise them any further or just clear? No, they should just have to clear them because they did get raised and they just weren't careful. I'm assuming they just weren't careful and it just went
coated right over it. So, but I didn't, you know, I wasn't out there during the fieldwork, so I couldn't say if they were raised all, you know, proportionately the same or not.
So, for right now, where do I going to say DOT's out right now, Chris was saying doing their sidewalk project. Um, so, and Chris is away next week. So, I I reached out to CC today to let them
know, you know, now is not a time to get out there. We'll have to kind of regroup the week that Chris gets back and figure out what the schedule's looking like for the DOT project. So, you know, if there's a window where we can have them
sneak out there and take care of these things, that'd be great because we we just don't want them out there working at the same time as this other construction's going on. that just creates compounding traffic problems. So, so that's that's all that's um
really no no big update there. Um but yeah, we'll keep on it and we'll touch base about it at the next meeting. Chris, what you got? Uh so finally got the infrared company
Corporation. They did the infrared past. So that worked out very well. Some good news report that Evan is taking his T1 class test
exam. So he's program his state exam for his T1 license and he's in the process of applying for the state licenses. Excellent. It was great pass the first time. So seems great. Seems like a really quiet.
Yeah, he's a great fit. Great assets hard work willing to learn new stuff their work. So it's great. Did you see correspondence from Verizon Street water tank? Additional equipment or do they have
one? No, they have nothing else. Who's negotiating? Uh I'm working with right now working with Verizon contract
then I'll work with USG USG to review that make sure that it's done properly on the correct the new and is it the town that negotiates the price for this
it'll be ultimately the office direction that renegotiations they asked for to do more and pay us less. [Music] Sprint and sprint sold T-Mobile that was
T-Mobile trying to do that. I think they did. I don't know. Not that I'm aware of. I thought they had provided a contract that had sign. So there once I get some more
information on that I can this time it's very early stages equipment we're going to need the space do we have a file of what's on our so we have a separate file for each of
the Okay last thing I have is that I've been working on replacing the It's going to wear off two years now that has a leftover truck from last year. So,
which is great. Get truck probably year. Yes, a little cheaper. I asked them on the trading optist truck we have in keeping it in surplus throwing it to the
town for auction general fund and the trade option I think is a much better to go for us truck so that helps us get Okay. I have that proposal. Would you like to
see it? Take a motion to this. I don't think list What's the treat00? Yes. What we approve? was already underneath. Well, it's a little bit better for us
GM warranty stuff like that. So, it's worked out the other trucks Chevys worked out really really well guys like the better ride. It held up well. That's fine. Then the key is always
extra cushion seats for their big buttons. Yeah. So I'll get that motion that official tomorrow and that'll be good. I did I did reach out to remember last time.
Okay. If Good. Thanks, Kristen. Okay, take care. Bye. Bye.