it's 7:15 we finally met all the uh meeting of the agricultural commission to order um this meeting is being recorded by the local scene Impact TV anyone intending to make an audio or
video recording of this meeting should notify the chair at this time no one online and I'm going to ask everybody to just go around the table introduce themselves please it's the easiest way misty Maltra
John Levelville chair who's Catherine Morsy Missy D Jean Land Snowman Ry Santos thanks everybody um first item on the agenda approve the
meet the minutes of the February 26 and for March 13th 20.5 meetings make a motion make the motion on February 26th and um I don't know i can't do March right because I do I'll
do March i'll second on a voting member oh you can't make a motion if you're not a voting member no oh I can't do it either ruy will make then we'll accept the minutes for February 26th
do I have a second second all in favor i I make another motion that we accept the minutes for March 13th i'll second that all in favor we need to take a voice vote when you're doing hybrid
one by one has to say we need our names and everything no you just individually all right we'll re we'll red we do that um but we're going to combine them february 26 March 13 have a motion to accept the minutes from both meetings i
I make that motion okay second i'll second it um All righty take the fas getting there all those in favor
I I I I I Okay it's unanimous now we got it recruitment of new members good luck with that you guys have had a lot of turnover in
the last couple well we Yeah ages out it's becoming a problem on all boards what happened are you here um in what role are you just a resident to see what we're up to or are you interested in
joining well my mom told me about it she got to be interested in coming to see a meeting and see what we're all about yeah okay cool well welcome thanks for coming yeah what's your background um I studied food systems at UVM i worked
on a apple orchard for like two years i did some beef cow farming pigs chickens for a summer some cut flower stuff and vegetable gardening just a little and
now I oyster farm at Island Creek oh awesome join oyster farms too that's great sometimes I'm in the warehouse when people drop stuff so they'll see me oh and I also got a masters in physics
thanks that's great and now you're an oyster that's good that's good yes definitely a part of my food system do we have any Is there anybody in Kingston that's under the age of 50 15
well I have Kelsey who lives at my house is there any opportunities she's waiting right kelsey she's what she's waiting to get She has her instructor town she her license say California she's on a census
is living in a house so she's reported as a resident um had we talked about the wees any of them let's leave that ruy speaks to John Wear i haven't talked to him about it lately
recently even a little poke let's see i will be seeing him he's doing some work for me so mention the other person would be maybe Tim Heinstep he's got the goats and does go scaping so that kind of
qualifies doesn't it yeah he's never responded to any of the invitations to the egg yeah he's very busy is he yeah we know him though ruy how are the chicks coming the chicks are in i've been in for two weeks how are
they doing they're doing good well they lost the water that's cuz it escaped bomb up outside the corral and outside the heat so it didn't make it didn't know when he had it well that's right how many did you get in oh 130 and
you only lost one wow get a tree TLC i was going to say get a good breed and then you And a heat lamp three of them that's a lot of chicks yeah and they'll be producing
eggs when august august but they're doing good they're growing they're four times bigger than they were two weeks ago when I got You're feeding them well you're feeding them super duper
okay drinking the warm water how many chickens have you got they're ordered oh they're ordered all right competition not my chicks or chickens you're gonna raise my first year without them
what's that you're going to raise them in the in the house in in the palace yes that you built that's a nice It is a nice house all right collaboration with the Kingston Library Seed Library um I did
speak with um I haven't seen Gail um and she's you know promoting the seed library asking for donations i made one but they want more
what's their qualification what are they looking for anything anything pretty much primarily I guess there's a baby okay this is the letter that No it's the letter she sent to us
okay because this is the same letter that she sends to U we'll keep reading go to the bottom sure they they um our in this work with local organizations like the Kingston Garden Club and the Agricultural Commission to
promote their noble efforts as well as our own noble efforts remember that um we hope to encourage and teach our families in towns folk excuse me more about all the benefits of home gardening for our neighborhoods and our planet um
so they're looking to us to provide some seeds well they're looking for us to for support too you said you you know wrote that letter for them right but they want us to provide seeds don't forget me i don't grow anything because right now they're
limiting it to four packs per household but they have our they have our vegetable garden 101 brochure right there at the um you know seed library i think the only way we can donate is individually
we could authorize payment from our funds sure it's program i don't know um suppose we could what were we thinking 50 100 we don't have a ton of money well we
do all right you know my feeling what do we have i don't believe in just spending i think that's what gets us into trouble if you start looking at at budgets and you see the spending
trends just before the fiscal year ends spend it no that's not the point we are not going to get any money if we if we continue to return all of it um they've made it
quite clear at the finance exactly and they'll try and save any way they can all right they kept their money back their money out our current budget okay our budget for the year is,000 our balance is 8.2660
we have till July 1st to spend and we're going to be talking more tonight about the fair and what kind of signage we're going to need there um but I can tell you if if we continue
to return the majority of our money the next year the budget will be much lower and then we're going to need it because we still have our program to pay for that's $250 program is a vegetable farming oh that's
right they've approved our budget for next year though so that means fiscal year it hasn't been voted by town meetings well I don't anticipate the cut thousand dollars out of it i hope not too but I
understand what you're saying in the real world yes I understand exactly what you're saying right but just to let you know it's because I shepherd that thing through every year to make sure that you know they don't cut us like they did last year down to
$250 which wouldn't virtually eliminate any program i I think we we have the funds available if there's the interest in all right spending some of it do we want to make a
donation and next question is um given what we have in the rest of this fiscal year we have signs for the for the egg fair that we'll have to especially if we change locations or do something
different do we want to donate to the library to the ceiling what kind of money did the signs cost us in the past do you know i don't know they were they weren't expensive oh less than 300 right i think I think
it was right around 300 was the You guys were probably getting a whole new band right we talked about replacing the prices on they have access to mobile site the town uses yes
they've been pretty good about doing that um the library commission is really good about sending something out to their email list they just sent out the vegetable garden and the library's actually been good too the library's
been good about their sign too no they haven't they did last time for this they haven't done seems to be only I did send it off to the transfer station
is it um reasonable that we take $100 and purchase seeds to donate to this library is that or even just 50 or 75 okay i think it's I think it's nice if we support the seed library if we have the
means to do it because it is in line with what we do right well we started the C oh okay yeah then there's that the next question is um it's a small enough month that you
don't have to do any bidding or you go where where would you go to where would we go to buy it barbie online or or you could just run up to I was gonna say Job Lot has a big display of seeds right now that are all Berkeley
seeds yeah or Lowe's or wherever well does Job recognizes how no and you know we don't have a test ID number there we do at Lowe's we do at Lowe's and it's it's a pain in the butt
yeah i've got one employee if she's there she knows how to do it so you need to have a town credit card credit card to use it so what we've been doing is just purchasing reimbured
ocean State was cheap when we went there i just bought seeds there they were a pretty variety for what it's they were discounted yeah and if you guys authorize it I I don't mind going i'll make a motion that we
authorize Jean to pick up i don't buy seats so I have no idea how much they are it's 50 or 75 a better amount um what do you think miss they were running two or three bucks a pack right i think 75 would be gracious like you
would get a lot with that you probably All right so I'll make a motion that we um donate $75 worth of seeds to the libraries seed i will second that all in favor i Jean that manager is really good
there too so I I bet if you mentioned what it was for okay they might even give us pay attention yeah yeah they're really generous now will we be able to get um a check for the town you just pay for yourself and get reimbured yourself and I'll
just I'll just stay at home and then you guys don't be dashful and forget something if an individual makes a donation to the seed library like how many seeds of the same variety count what's going on
they're accepting anything are they Are they breaking packages where you're just I don't think so i'm not aware that they are i got like a partial package did you did you i did but I don't know if that was just random it was like broccolini so it was not
something many people I guess would but it kind of makes sense because you don't often plant squash for example whole pack you're not going to plant more than a half a dozen probably and you said they're looking for flowers
they're looking for vegetables and flowers but Gale indicated that flowers seem to be the most popular and it's important i've seen it i haven't like opened any spend some
money for a good cause oh it is i agree i agree of all the causes that's a good one i mean if we're gonna we're gonna offer a program that's called vegetable garden one we need to support so do you think you'll get vegetables then to go
along with the program you mean like um people returning seed no I think when you buy your When you buy them you think you'll try to buy so you can promote the veg garden no I'll do across the board yeah things that I
think are easy and spinach lettuce yeah i mean it might have been peas they had bulbs there as well yeah they did see the bulbs yeah yeah i don't think they have space yeah because they're the little drawers i know yeah i mean it's an old card catalog that they
had painted if you haven't seen it it's really pretty and just a a garden club has their books in bloom displays written out through Saturday they're very imaginative
beautiful imaginative so you just have you know 10 minutes to swing by the library and take a look it's It's really I'm I'm amazed how people come up with these ideas pretty neat um agricultural approach
i put a couple of things out on Facebook trying to talk to D club because I don't go to meetings anymore but um nobody's responded to me but I'll just keep doing it because I really I talked to a couple of people I know with bees but they don't you know they're uncomfortable
getting up in front of anybody yet okay and I know what that feels like the more you do it the easier i have no commitment from that one
she's not sure if she can do it last time it didn't work out so not for me i don't think it's everybody um well I did speak to um Kathy back and forth
she's I said this before she's going to do a program she did kind of a neat thing the early winter seed yeah up at the high school it was It was pretty cool so what was the topic early winter seed yeah starting stuff
in little plastic jugs in the winter time it makes like a little greenhouse i went to um a winter so workshop in Worcester they did a presentation on
them and had everyone bring in jugs and they had a bunch of soil they saved bunch of seeds like everyone got seeds for the workshop yeah yeah we going club do that a few
years you can use other containers too classroom project it would be a very cool classroom project and it works well till you get a really hard about two weeks ago
sometimes you pull your jokes in i should Well I should th Oh you didn't and when they was so excited oh I know i lost it i'm going to What do you use for jugs like half
gallon container clear plastic or the Yeah don't use the white milk jugs but these you know clear plastic so the sun will penetrate the milk and you cut the top off you slice them
and leave a hinge fold it back fill it with potting soil plant the stuff close it tape it and uh leave a little top off you know you can spritz it with a little spray bottle of water if it needs water
packs like a terrarium good idea it's really It's really neat yeah so you said we were going to try and schedule her i spoke to her and she'd be willing to do it next year for us early in the Yes
february probably March maybe we'll see what her schedule looks like [Music] um you um you talked about Well we've got the lady with permaculture coming
um in June yes um We're just going to have her come and present to us before we determine whether or not we think it would be of value of interest to the wine
and then was John going to talk to Kot Cranberry he was going to probably have some hat to say probably no yeah and it's almost time for produce sharing
i have the shelf i know i will I will try and get an appointment with the selecting in May get permission again to do it it worked well last year yeah I think each year it's going to build as people know more about what it is
stuff i had lots of questions from the council on aging too and I went and did hours there about how to access it and what it was and to where to at the council on aging oh okay they were very interested in it
well I don't think so i mean probably many of them are no longer gardening produce now to go with that the recycling committee has arranged with council on aging to have one of our bins there for black
earth mhm so all of the organic material coming out of the kitchen is going in there and then what holly holly yeah all I could think of is her last name yes holly um she said when
they have extra baked goods that don't go they can now put them in there and every Thursday they get fresh produce in and whatever's left they're now putting in that also and I reminded her that if it was of any value to just trot it over
to the produce sharing she said yes perfect okay yeah so yeah I think you know it's going to take a little while for people to get the hang of it but last year we were really helped by people who drop stuff
off took a picture put it on Facebook so people knew it was there because I got calls like "Well are you going to let us know when something's there?" No you know you just have to swing by right and see if there's anything there
um cuz it's supposed to be a low Yeah activity it's not supposed to be right you know something more and then we all stop by and make sure there's no sitting in That's great okay
yeah I think Yeah it's just a small no wild animals going we have not had any any more animals trying to get in considering everything grows outside i know no bears are trying to break in no
no all you have to do is go down the street and they can get all they want so is there anything we were going to try and do for the fall other than I Well it would be nice if we could connect with the bees do you know uh Ken
Pearl is he I mean that's but but when my back went I haven't really had any that's been the one that comes today yeah but I wonder if he'd be willing to do a talk or I'll see if I can get in touch with him okay because I I couldn't
remember seeing Okay ken Pearl ken Pearl yeah he's in shield do you have his info or do you want I can get it or I can send it to you i mean I'm I can get it from the B club membership officer i'm trying to see your phone that doesn't have it the money
that email is building all right the legislative breakfast well Jean Ruy and I were in attendance with Ruy's daughter Michelle who we are trying to recruit the farm
i I am I should tell you that uh she's going to file a grant from the Massachusetts Department of Agriculture for greenhouse oh good good for her yeah we're not sure size yet green body or
whatever all you have to do is pony up $2,000 yeah what does she want to grow probably her husband would be grow but he grows everything imagine okay so vegetables or flowers yeah vegetables vegetables are great
vegetables you guys think that market stand no we'll just sell them with the eggs we did that maybe four years ago worked out well okay so it is kind of open oh we do have a Yeah because song checks
are opening till July yeah I talked to Scott the other day what's the story they're just not doing a spring um that's when a lot of stuff's coming in and and it's also got a labor problem
okay yeah he said it's hard to recruit get high school kids but September they're better at school yeah yeah yeah i was just surprised he didn't have any spring vegetables you know a lot of local people and some of them grow greenhouse but a lot of
them buy vegetables too yeah i know try and get his summer inf is that gonna be an automated full automated right now I don't know um we're just looking into what the potent possibilities are and we're facing a
deadline of May maybe 10th or 15th has to be filed so we're just discussing what we really want but if we're going to put it in my suggestion is put in a one that's state-ofthe-art good don't go half ass
with uh something that you're going to have problems with insists so yeah it's got a s it's got a source of power the power is right there and and water yeah so we'll see
i thought that the breakfast this year was especially good the um the speakers um I didn't know if you wanted to talk about that John no well they had um they had a couple of people there from Bristol Aggies the
um the woman who interviews the kids to come there was sitting at our table she spoke a little bit about that and um right now they have the average class size is
160 um where is Smith vocational mag school is that Rhode Island maybe they have average class size of 142 norfolk County egg has 140 and Essex North egg
contest has 16 so in 2026 um um for the for 2026 they've had 544 applicants for60 positions 2027 they expect almost
600 and 2028 643 and 2029 700 and there is legislation proposed to limit it to strictly count yeah because right now they draw
[Music] from 16 different communities including Kingston we have a couple of kids that drive every day um and so they were talking about that legislation and how
the communities need to be aware that there may be nowhere for their kids to go for an egg school if they that's the only one in the area there's Norfolk too which is I think like within driving
distance for a high school there is none on the Cape relax no just CTE program at Silver Lake is like you're running yeah which is great yeah you know and they were saying that not
only do they have the agriculture but they have all the related fields too like the mechanics running a farm you're your own mechanic when you're a farmer so you've got to do that and they
were talking about last year there's a there I think there had been something passed saying that they couldn't use the the hoist the hoist yeah they changed the hoisting license
that they they wouldn't let the kids learn how to use the horse had to be 18 right which eliminated all kids they were all they were all graduating within two months or five months very few 18
year olds coming in so they they state had to change the state had to change that the state had to change and and that's a reversal because years ago there was no restriction and then some legislator got a hair across his elbow who didn't
know anything about agriculture right and we got the legislation to pass restricting the hoisting leg because they might get hurt well if they learn how to use it properly they're not going to get that's the whole point i mean they use torches
at the welding program so I imagine So then they gave us this whole list of current bills pending bills and the ones that supports and the ones that they do not support so I went home and I um sent
off emails to um my Senate representative and my House representative because there's co- bills one in the House one in the Senate telling them which ones that I wanted them to support and which ones I wanted
them to oppose um because believe it or not they pay attention to those emails and phone calls and that's often how they vote um I I know a representative had to vote in a
way she didn't feel was right but all of the calls she got in support of that so she felt she didn't really have a choice so and it's quite possible that a lot of these
senators and representatives have no idea what these bills actually mean to the agricultural community and so it's helpful for them to find out um which ones the agricultural community
actually they don't so I'd be more than happy to run off this if any of you want to take the time to look at it and you can come back to I would it so I thought this was probably one of the most organized
um breakfast that they've had the woman who used to be at CAP is now their executive director and she runs a very good shop i think she was very well spoken they had very appropriate speakers um breakfast
was the usual It was okay it was okay except for the eggs but the program itself was far better than any Boston yeah you know a good mix of legislators as well as farmers and and
just to back back to the Bristol A thing I don't know if anybody's had a chance to go out to that school it's beautiful oh it's like a little college campus it's gorgeous i' I have I've known kids that have gone out there and love it even for the
amount of time it takes them to get out there do their education come back again yeah the director of admissions she said Saturday she said they have some students going to Bristol that are riding more than an hour to get there so
they're getting there and then riding another hour to get home and they they really wholeheartedly have their have their interests in agriculture which is nice to see i know a couple young people that have
helped me are going there m that's every day yeah it's a big commitment what time is that lady i was going to say river yeah it's a long ride
no easy way to get there no and Silver Lake pays students by the state state law requires but but that's where um Cap has their an
annual conference that you too when when was that february right yes yeah it's it's worth going yeah i'm interested in going this year and I went years ago and then I haven't been back but you went
that was great yeah yeah cap was kind of getting act back together you know they had had um well this woman who's now with the farm she had been in charge in CMA and then they lost a lot of staff and now they have a new executive
director and they build up their staff again so they send out a periodic newsletter if you're not signed up for it I would recommend that they do um it's a lot of information on grants that are available um different programs that
they offer and then again this yearly conference where they have a variety of speakers you sound better than than last week i do we were at the library um grant
presentation they got a $29,000 grant from T-Mobile to redo the whole Oh that's nice yeah so when you go in they have a couple of the boards there with all the materials and the design
what it's going to look like really going to be very nice and I said where where was it it was at the library no no but I mean where are they going to do that in the line oh okay you know where you pick where the seed library is where the library of things and the
periodicals that sort of thing just take the shop right here has there been any more discussion about that big back room used to use it for the storage for the book sale books i'm not sure where they are on that i
haven't heard any they really want to develop that but it's probably Yeah in the small room too well there's access issues heating air condition you
know oh yeah no it has to be renovated i mean it's just a big big open space it's a good size space i've never been back there no it's worth the look that's where the archives used to be before they moved them over to the Adams no I've never been it's mostly used just
sort of dead storage and bookshel used to use it as a staging area books in and out of there so is that area run parallel to if you if you want back to it you know where the the
sets and movies are it's right it's past it's cold storage really down a set of stairs so it's not in the same It's not even the same level yeah so that's you know it presents some issues but but
it's as wide as the library so it's really good oh yeah it's a good space i mean you know the stairs is could easily be addressed just Yeah it just cost money
to just cost In my former life I saw how spend before you lose it goes oh I know John it's always doesn't sit well with me
i think there's big cold storage units it's not sustainable spending i mean if you I do remember what you're talking about they used to like buy all new furniture at the end of the year i know what you're talking it's crazy if you're awarded you'd be great but they don't
it's no money yeah how do we back away from it how do you convince people that you maybe level fund the budget you just spend less so you don't you don't blow it you don't necessarily lose it
the fall right that's how how state and federal funding i understand that i believe me I understand it's not right though you'd have to get the whole system changed well philosophically yes right
if you do it I tell you what if you do it with your home budget if you spend every cent that comes into your house and don't save anything and you every year you increase that sooner or later you find yourself in the body
well that's why we have stabilization and stuff there's something that goes into them oh I understand that but the the credit card debt if you're in Yeah yeah yeah we have no credit card
debt for the federal or the state all right talking about CAMAP is there any any interest at all in um us uh as an organization purchasing a membership i
think it's um $75 is that right yes the only thing there is and a big fan of this because you have to spend $75 what do you get for that i mean what
do you get that I say individually if you if you join individually you get get the mailing and stuff but as a group I don't know you know how the mailing would go dead spot at the town hall and see it in our mailbox but then what happens to
it we pick it up John but I mean how does it get dispersed i mean how does everybody other than read it at a meeting share it at a meeting how do you get this John i scan it and send it to everybody well I also get it
some yeah I scan it send it out i mean there are ways John and um I think theirs is probably all electronic which I was going to say that isn't it but multiple emails or just ask the question
we all get the email or would it just go maybe go to one person and that person like like Jean does sends it out to everybody if you get it you know way to get me to read an email is to
send me is to text me a comment you know I I've discovered that if um you contract vendors and you don't tell them to send you a paper statement takes months before it catches up to you literally
months i had a plumber you know what they cost disconnect a gas dryer where my daughter lives rental and then reconnect a new one four months before I got a paper bill he kept on I waited a month for a bill didn't get it called
them up and they said "Oh yeah we sent you a bill and I said "Where?" And they said "Oh I think we sent it to your phone." And I said "I don't do bills on the phone." Right so I said "We'll take care of it." Another month went by literally it was 100 days before I
got a paper bill well if you've been paying attention to this to the state this has been a statewide problem with the utilities yeah so it's not this year or locally statewide they can't force people to do it anymore
right is that what they came out with they can't force anybody to take an electronic um billing any longer yeah but they were trying to force everybody all they do is throw your phone away yeah and they'll never catch up
it'll take it'll take it'll take them take them years i lost the phone i drown one about once a year yeah so I just bring it up because um I think it's it's a very worthy organization it's
definitely worthy i did inquire about our membership to Plymouth County Farm Bureau and all acoms get a free membership do it so that's why we we've never been built i I talked to um Lisa and I said I
feel guilty you know coming to these and we're not paying anything and she said egg moms get a free free membership i thought really nice [Music]
well what do you think do we want a membership i say yes so is it $75 or is it free what $75 that's as long as the literature goes to our mailbox and we have access to it then I
say yes okay so Ruy's making a motion john will pick it up and and he'll scan it he'll scan it he'll email it to everybody all right i'll second Ruy's motion for the membership about as likely as I'll fly this is the $75
do you even know where that mailbox is i do know where that's good process all in favor i I Okay so we'll do it we figure out how to do bones are you
okay corinary right here it's not a negative yet so it's okay no i don't like spending other people's money either
spend yours i do all right you ready for the egg fair yes let's talk about the egg fair so should we set a date should we start with a date well let's let's back up a little bit i got an email from Debbie Grace which you got to Yeah saying that
the the decided on a date for their library event it's going to be September 14th they're going to have it at the library in the parking lot like they've done before they do not want to um have
it anywhere else because they feel that that takes away from the whole point of having it you know the library and u they wanted to know if we were going to be doing something in the town green and I said the egg pit will probably never return to green street as it has become too large for the old town
green and we do not have the funds to pay for police detail we more than wipe out our entire credit um I said the fair this year will probably be held on the grounds of the townhouse probably late in September after the big de
um because I had mentioned to her before that we were looking at another non town site um so I think the the first thing we have to deal with is [Music] um where where are we going to hold
it and then date and we had asked Missy to get some information for us on insurance and um it left us with a lot of unans
I just voted what I got i know i know i know um so Trisha in the Slackman's office contacted the insurance town insurance and council um to get information about liability
insurance i can answer well we doesn't have a policy that covers those events i because you must cover stuff with raised be they do because it's town property but I think
the question that I that's that's what she was going off of because that was the that conversation the next question and one that's just as it's important it's the cost the
limits from the board of health okay well we've got that resolved it has been resolved yes what's the resolution yes um their their solution was to charge us a flat fee of
$150 and for us to figure out how much we wanted to have each of the vendors spend um and that that flat fee sorry Gene is for the entire event okay yeah that makes more sense then what is that
that's a the vendor food of food and here's the silliness that's going to happen the town gives us a budget and we're going to use part of that budget to give to the board of health
we could ask the vendors to do that individually a little bit we asked the board of help to Yeah knock off the baloney just for the Oh listen they thought that this was a big deal a good deal they gave us instead of each vendor paying $75
that's what happened efficiency wise it seems better but how does is this food vendors or is this every vendor you don't know is this just the food vendors or is this every vendor is it because they have to do inspection the alpaca guy has to pay a
fee if they're selling something there he does not um I think that It is a food all required for the food vendors anyway right well they're supposed to right right right there's a whole thing here of what they have to have you know so
all of the vendors that you're planning on having I just I'm trying to wrap my head around this because the same question came up for the farmers markets all the vendors that you're planning to have are already licensed with the town of Kingston and inspected right and so what is serious question I'll be fresh yeah
what is the $150 fee flat fee for yes that's right i want to know what happens to the money what do they have to do with goes back into the general fund for it so the board of health is standing up saying to the town we're good because we
charge this fee well we get the money and then we get You're saying because they have to process everything for that one day event here that that's the school yeah but what is the difference between doing it somewhere else
well no matter yeah so they paid a flat fee they haven't done the whole time already now they're paying another fee it's going to Well it's not a flat fee it depends on you know they gave me the old forms and the fee if they uh if they do 0 to 13 farmers markets it's $30 and
15 or more farmers markets visits it's 60 and yet for one day they wanted $75 that's just bad math right there yeah i was having a little trouble
following you know what we're going to do 60 of them but you know what and it's not even a day it's three hours i know it's three hours it's not a day considered the same trying to explain like a farmers market yeah why is it I don't know yeah yeah maybe because there is has there is there no past practice
to it like there isn't it's never been done before and so they don't know how to handle it yet because it's not practicing what other towns do but um you know John and I met with them
they told us they were going to take a look at everything and including the the permit forms that are available if you look on those board of health web page there's a a slew of different applications there depending on what
what the thing is for and then there's an associated fee for them to handle all the paperwork um and and honestly I cannot give you a really solid explanation thing okay because it
doesn't quite make sense okay so if I if I were going to ask I would I guess I would be asking that are they planning on in your idea is to use all already
licensed food trucks but vendors or right they've already had their license and inspections in fact and they've already paid their fees yeah they've just posted a complete list they did of all the vendors that they've approved um I saw that okay unfortunately we don't
know the vendors to use it's not on here yet but it's not that long of a process okay but we do know which ones they've already is that online um it's on the board of health Facebook page too put it in there
and I'm sure it changes daily and then keep in mind the alcohol needs to get a a one day permit yeah and that's that's understandable just this I I just don't understand why board of
health needs to charge another child entity a fee well see they're thinking we're going to charge the vendors we don't charge anything this is free this is That's what I was saying you know we're
you're going to give us 15 or you're going to give us 150 out of one pot and we're going to put the 150 back in it's just a It's really hard to believe and and where does somebody like John uh seen Christine fit in they're not
selling anything no no and they don't have to theirs is a whole different permitting for animals they have barn instructions and everything so well but they have to have certain vaccinations paperwork with us but you already do all
that we do health we pay it ourselves through our vet to get the health certificates but then I feel like it would be double dipping if they then asked the No no no we wouldn't be asking them i think they're focused on the people you know
it's the food it's the food and honestly I think um you know if I were a vendor I'd be like I'm not paying a dime i'm not going to show up because I already paid for the that doesn't happen at the wreck so when the food trucks come to music nights they have to we have to use
trucks that are certified already but we're not paying a fee out of recreation's funding to then get up i think they're thinking of people who might be there selling cheese or spices or canola or that sort of thing
so it's not a food truck per se it's like whatever they call it a victory license or whatever a different license but we have very few of those probably has a license to sell and the pickle lady I'm sure she
right but see she might have to because she's not a food truck she would probably have to fill out the paperwork the only other person I can think of It would be you selling eggs but I just don't sell eggs i can't think of any other but if those
same people are going to the farmers markets in Kingston and selling they must already they've already done due diligence right and they've already been inspected by the board of health and have already gotten their Are they not counting this as a farmers market no
it's just a free just a community and we invite anybody who has anything associated with agriculture to set up the table and you know whether we really are trying to keep it
very low low effort high community there's no bureaucratic stuff i feel like there's a way to make the connection that it's not a farmers market necessarily but those same people are involved in that event and shouldn't
need to be it's more like a benefit to the town as far as like a free nobody's really making money even the vendors that sell stuff aren't they're not making that much money well even if they were They're still already licensed they're not going to make
pay right this is a free event to promote it's more of a promotional event it's nice to you know introduce What if I decide to buy my groom so $200 does the board of um does the board itself
have any say in being able to wave these according well that was the That was the vote sorry Joe explain it a little bit there must have been a reason coming from
this is why nobody doesn't between the lawyers and the fees makes it not worth it made proof of liability insurance license bottle cleanup procedure kit employee reporting agreement and policies copies of permits
from the town where the kitchen was located copy the most recent inspection report the next they do run that that that came up at the farmers market last year yeah because those kitchens do have to be
certified sure you know or even the bodily fluid even though it was an outdoor event they figured out how to store it on site somewhere in case that were to happen so it's it's the same sure so the 150 flat rate their final
decision to you according to to Joe so they would rather have nothing he should have said to him Joe if you were a vendor in a to charge $150 to come sell hot dogs at my place what would you do i I hear basically just slap me in the
face and go away yeah so you know that's that's one issue i think the big issue for us right now is to figure out where we're going to have it and and what the implications are as far as insurance not only for the town but for you guys
you know I've asked you talk with your insurance people to see what what coverage you have what this kind of event yeah and I talked to him and it would cost me $125 to get coverage for the event and extra umbrella to protect you that's all that was for one day so
it was for a day and we only need three hours yeah so it's it's peanuts it's not it's easy okay so then the issue is the the town everything that the town has to do including what did they say on
that email i have to pull it up on my email now i should have it out if if this is a town committee with town employees which it is not none of us are employees we're all volunteers but it's a committee i think is it's if the town was to hold
this event on nonowned property I would assume the owner of the property would request Kingston issue a a certificate of insurance to show the town has coverage we could do it your insurance company would be looking for the town liability from the town and then the
town would issue the that for their town event we would need to see the agreement contract the town would engage for use of the space and what insurance requirements the property owner would be requesting um lastly I'm assuming Kingston and its employees are running
this event volunteers who will work the event must sign waivers any vendors contracted to participate in the event provide coverage of insurance to the town uh we can send you the recommendations for minimum limits and coverage naming the town as additional
insured and as always town council review all contracts it's it's getting very complicated it doesn't make any sense it's their own deep pockets thing yeah I I was reading it more that the our the
town's liability insurance would ask for waiverss but we would provide a certificate to your insurance saying we have but then any vendor contracted to participate in the event would have to provide covered certificate of
insurance to the town naming the town as an additional insured well they do that just because first they sue Christine then they almost you want to have
again doing this anymore they just make it so difficult and it's so much work for what i mean we had we had a wonderful offer here to to do some something really unique for the community
and now once you ask questions maybe that's our fault we ask questions um because we try to do everything right but what if but then it defeats the purpose of the ACOM but what if it just became a private
event that's open to the town and you know I don't know how you would you could set up your own vendor table at your own private event i can hire any food truck I want to come to my property and sell at my party and provide food at
my party and you could set up a table and offer information at my culture committee or something you know what I mean it doesn't have to come under the umbrella of the of the egg come it can just be um have a presence
of the egg come to represent what the town has to offer yeah that's what I just said friends friends of the agricultural committee right sad that we lose Well it is sad it's very sad point of it yeah you know which is as much as you don't want to hear a
town event that you know to promote agriculture something positive for the town very positive just promote a day that it could have been so cool they do like Dexter does that farm day with the town the um What do they do but see they
own the land they own O'Neal's farm now oh they get away with that's the difference i wonder if cornstrip does something we could find another you live down south issue i mean honestly like I
could buy my own insurance umbrella and host an open farm day at the farm and like you say the egg could just have a table set up there and then have all the people that normally come set up come set up but we just wouldn't call it the king the egg fair which stinks cuz
that's kind of sad it's the whole right the whole point but I don't know i don't know any other way to do it without it being a nightmare headache for everybody yeah it gets a little complicated for us as well as the vendors right i mean here we
can't bring our stuff and John can't bring his stuff in there's no there's no room there's no room there's no public time like space besides this that's big no I mean this place really has the most parking you know we've been asked about
doing it in at Grace Beach but as you know Grace Beach has zero parking well we have a hundred spaces 100 and we've got what three or 400 out here which majority of them get used on the day you know as people come and go but it's
mostly parking what the area is so it's only you have only room for cars and not everything and and the thought like to come here we have a horse farm so to come here we we'll bring a tractor and a big trailer and a horse and set up a little display but if we had it at the farm we could run demonstrations we
could give pony rides yeah we could give uh tractor pulled hay rides around the pastures which I already talked to John Weir and he agreed to do um if if we had it i ran into him at the urgent care actually and um and you do what you got to do with
whatever you know so I chatted with him about it and he said "Yeah." He goes "Ru had mentioned something about it." And he says "I' I'd do that i could drive so close i could drive it right over." And I said "Great well if it happens then we'd love to have you." So that we could just make it so much more fun for the
kids and the families and offer so much more we'd still have the alpacas and the goats and the cow if we could get a cow the rabbit people the rabbit people would still have all the normal stuff that we always have we would just have more animals because there'd be 42
horses also on the property and then we could like I said do demos and give rides and whatever there'd be more i can't bring all that stuff here there's no room anyway right right no I mean it would certainly be an enhancement yeah it would just make it more tangible the
more stuff for kids you know petting and the the fire department has that nice sign out there and it could say this way turn here but then it gets tricky too as far as we really couldn't buy signs for the
event no we really couldn't spend any of our money because it's a private event you can't use like the field at the school that's what I was just gonna say so where National Night Out goes do they still do like
what is it we did it at the elementary school for years national Night Out but they've now moved it to the middle school high school in the back lot they had a conservation property still the only still real difference is we still couldn't add all that extra stuff which is what was going to enhance it and if
we're not going to do that we might as well just stay right here you know what I mean and just keep it small like it is and just not try to make it more hands-on and it just is what it is you know it was just we could do so much more right if we're over there we could
have we could have so much more set up for people to see we've got a bunch of tractors that we could have instead of just having a one we We've got the big semi horse trailer we've got a small horse trailer we've got all kinds of stuff that could be out on display for
people to walk through and see and and the you know all the horses there's four barns of horses there they can walk through and see that is a huge draw yeah it is you know the kids love to we have people come in off the road all the time with you know parents and their
grandkids and they come through and walk through and you know touch everybody and whatever it's fine we don't care and you know it's so now how much parking do you think you have there we have a decent amount of parking but people can park right up the side of Brookdale it's not
that busy of a road that you have a field or anything we have a big parking lot where the construction company used to be that we can it'll be so dry then parking yeah oh yeah it's right in the middle of everything oh okay police things to need to weigh in on
street i know are there any signs that say no i I walk there all the time and I don't even pay attention so they can park all the way up to Brookdale to the street i mean I think if you made a phone call
and just said we're having an event and the road just to give them a heads up i can't I mean Yeah i don't I don't Sometimes I think it's better to ask for forgiveness than Yes to even say anything you know if someone said "Geez I had no idea i didn't realize that
would be a problem i'm sorry i mean I I imagine most of the time the problem is if a fire truck can't get through there but that would be all I know is we're covering i really wouldn't care all right well do people want to think a little bit more
about it or I think we need to um because we don't have to make a decision tonight um a little bit of time to have it there it's just like a lot of hoops to talk through well it isn't if I do it under my farm because then my insurance
company will just charge me $125 for added protection for that one event which is not a big deal right could it still be called a Kingston Agricultural Fair but not the Kingston committee not the town of
Kingston the name not since pretty much taken agricultural fair in Kingston let's say ag in Kingston as opposed to Kingston agriculture hill
state an open farm like it's just about farming right you know welcome to the ohides can't say kingston on them or we would they would say open farm day and
then you just farming in general if you can't believe somebody wants to sell vegetables it's all farm related right you know what I mean we don't have to use the word agricultural right use farm day open farm day i mean that's not bad that's
not a bad title open farm day no it's a great title and you know if we if we got some banners made up ahead of time I could stick them on the fences out front on the road people drive by all the time i used to years ago when I
first started I put a lesson banner up there riding lessons with my phone number i got a lot of people that that call so if we put banners out there on the fence that just says open farm day September whatever 1 to three
free come on in or whatever you know I mean I bet a lot of people would come let me just put them out early enough that people see it far enough in advance probably Facebook i can put it up on the town page as if it's coming from me
and if you do it as an event like you actually click the event for Facebook then it becomes a public event and then everybody see it okay right that's that's usually what I do i usually put in the events under an event and put out all the town any town i'll have to
figure that out when the when and if the time pass yeah it's just an event tab and it walks you through it the title it is the address the time yeah it's really easy it walk it walks you right through it and I'm sure the recck department I'm sure I work with her for summer camp programs anyways I could probably ask
her if she could put the word out she'll do an email yeah so I don't know i mean again I'm willing but it's up to you guys and for the I think it's great
banner is that we can't use the funds from here for that probably not no but that's fine we'll figure it out how much did the banner cost you don't know they were a couple hundred bucks if you found if you advertised just an
idea you advertised the vendors that were becoming onto the banner then maybe that would be like the right offer yeah the only problem is you get too too many things on the banner people too busy and then they miss the
important info you know what I mean i think Personally the bigger the writing and the less stuff the better because it catches people eye yeah you can do that on the Facebook the one we put at Grace Beach is pretty big
on the tennis court uh Sorama did it for us and it was not that and it's pretty big yeah I'd probably get I worked with Yeah with Sorama too yeah it wasn't that i think it was 100 something but it's pretty big and it
last i don't know i um I don't know i have to go 4x 10 or 4 by 8 that big i honestly don't know i have to go i have pictures of it but I'm not sure I can figure out and we can adjust the size depending on what the cost is
we can go right down and look and see what they have to offer you can get on dirt cheap yeah I forgot you for like 75 bucks the key is deciding early enough to get
it all done that one sign that cost me $5 something yes that was what's that specified by what do you think we need timewise to make a decision and go
forward i will maybe by next summer we might have a better decision in May and then still have it in the fall yeah so the dates space that I guess what you do would
make the assumption that we have the same vendors as last year i would have to change how we do the invite because it couldn't technically couldn't come from us but
can you like create a separate open farm day committee subcommittee i was just thinking not connected to this but it's the same people we would have to in order I don't know what all the ins and outs are you know I just teach your letter head
yeah that's fine to do it would you also be looking to have those um the medical certificates for the animals i would think yeah i just want to make sure everybody's animals are healthy because I don't want to There's too much stuff out there to take a
chance yeah so yes I would still I would still want that just Deb can still be in charge of that part and check that i probably wouldn't get them for all of mine because it's 50 a whack and they
already live there and 42 horses i'm not going to do that but no but they're fine just the ones coming in most of I get one a year it takes all of New England and I know you and I know you take care of your No I know but I'm just saying that most of us that show like that that
I know right we get it's I think horses are like a 30-day one aren't they oh yeah 30 days i have to get one for every horse right i mean that's pretty that's pretty bad you know but most most people they only have to get the one a year so it's not that bad
but they have specific for what they wouldn't have to I don't have to pay an additional fee to come to this because I've already got my certificate if I want say or something yeah so it's different for the goats than it is for the horses for the
livestock compared to the horses yeah all right so what do you think John we'll just um try and come to a a decision next month after everybody's had some time to think about it yeah and the biggest the people really have to make the
decision loose so so the Sunday there's really only one Sunday that we could have it if you don't want to be the same day as the libraries brewery thing if they're doing the 14th well when is the big E is that
going to affect any of our um vendors the big E is The Big E ends on the 28th it ends on the 28th september that's the last day is that going to affect any of our vendors what day is that is that a Sunday yes it's Sunday yeah but we're already on
our road to Oklahoma though we leave the 26th for Oklahoma so does the 21st work or the 28th 28th does not work we won't be around so it have to be like the 21st yeah i mean in
a perfect world the 14th would be the best day for us but is that when the library event that is that's why I was saying Yeah and the seventh in a horse show is that necessarily a bad thing to have it on the same day yeah I think it is if if we were down
the street it would be no problem but where it's two very different locations people are going to have to choose we probably siphon people I think so yeah I wouldn't want to impact their event
what does the library do for children they have activities inside i don't know about outside um I would think the animals would be a draw for children oh there's no question oh yeah there's no question that when we had it alongside
there that's where the kids were oh yeah but so can we tenatively say the 21st yeah that would be the day we'd have to do it we need to check on Patriots games yeah
we're not going to have much any other option because the 14th is the library the 7th I'm Judging a Horse Show and the 28th we're not there we're on the road to Oklahoma so it's the only If we have it at your place it would have been Yes yes put a screen up and stream Patriots
i'll probably make that happen on a projector on the side of the house or something oh yeah there you go how can I do this i'm just trying to think you have a big screen in the barn six days it's five days
five days to undo everything we got to do to make sure everything's ready to go when do you come home from Oklahoma because we leave that Friday right four and four and a half days and why does it have to be in September
just curious is that what it just passed over in the past weatherish it can be a little coolish for us i mean we could do at least we get back after the
second August we could do the end of August we have the Marshel Fair too is that the end of August yeah yeah it's usually the same week yes the 21st is the only date that's going to work for you whether it's at your place or or if it's here what he's
saying is he thinks that I'm putting too much on top of us when we're trying to leave Oklahoma do we want to have it here this year and give ourselves a year to try to plan and have a whatever i told you I'm gonna be the same
[Music] probably somewhat limited next year so this year yes in July well maybe this year we just keep it simple and you think you'd be able to participate here on the 21st or would you do it on
the 14th here no I wouldn't yeah I I really don't want to detract from what they were doing because they were kind enough to see if we had picked a date first i mean bottom line is the 21st i can't bring a big rig okay well that that would be okay 80 ft
long yeah I think that'd be during the during the small trails tough yeah because we do pack like the whole week before oh yeah you have there's a lot of lot of work involved yeah yeah
and do you think you you can get your friends to bring the fire engine and the car was that you or No that was that was Karen Karen's husband they wonder if she can get them she would but Beagle will come okay that'd be great yep he asked me if you were interested because he
thought you know it so I said "Oh yeah." Yeah yeah yeah um the guy that we had used before was a little concerned he hadn't been asked last year but now he's moving oh I think we'll be okay
what's this music music music yeah yeah they were great yeah they were great the only thing is we can't put tables as close to it as we did right people couldn't talk i think scratch this year
we get our date early and do the 14th because Yeah because the library won't do theirs next year they only do it every other year yeah so that's two weeks realistically it'll put in a lot of to try to jam it in yeah before you
you're leaving yeah the if we could do it the 14th it's a different story but we 14th do 21st all right so maybe we'll just do it here this year and consider your offer for next year okay yeah
that'd be great um but as I said I'm going to need help definitely going to need help have you ever asked the Florida culture program at Super League to help and you get a big no have trouble getting them
tableiculture program really because the kids don't want to it's the fall sports season yeah the kids don't want to spend Sunday yeah well they need 40 hours of community service so they all
miraculously find it somewhere yeah they text me right now and ask me "What can we do?" And I have to come up with projects so how about we be proactive and get them there i mean we've been trying to do this for some time actually i mean I've with many organizations here
in Kingston and trying to get kids to put in their community service they go "Oh I'm offset." You know it Well yeah i mean we have what the hockey team does the luminaries the horiculture
that's it it would be great if we get a little more involved in here yeah I know they're doing their big like chili cook off did you see that okay seventh is that when it is and we have to see if
can do her catalog so the class that she was working with is the one that's graduating right now so I don't know if she has a class another one yet so we have to find that up but I'm sure we could get Jimmy to bring a cow
he's pretty good with that the cow plot brought a lot of younger kids you know the high school age kids and and then we had 4 kids who were bring their their cattle so it was good
it was good alaska Lee she's She's gonna She's the one leasing O'Neal's farm and they're going to be making specialty cheeses and stuff like that yeah that's they're getting it all set up now hopefully she'll be set up in time and maybe she can come give a table that'd be great i
just thought of it yeah I just thought about Yeah Mary we have a pretty good list from last year but that'll be an interesting thing to have too you know a food truck like that because she'll be all licensed just keep in mind all the things we're going to have to deal with
if we do it here oh but later oh boy all right um think we need to move on yeah um just for the record let's say that agricultural affairs we're going to plan
on the town hall Sunday September 21st no that's okay so John you going to do the request to the select can we i just when do we need to do that that's I
don't need to do that until August well I would say if they say no hey just to come to talk about it to get permission to use the town
um yeah do you mean can I do anything to help with that it should not be it's pretty It's pretty much a no-brainer in a row without any any issues so and it isn't the select that
usually have commentary to go no it is okay it's it's going very smoothly i think each year we learn so July is that early yeah no later than July what would you prefer that I talk to you know go from June probably June
because if we're going to do it I need to start sending out letters and you need permission [Music] because June and July are going to be tied up [Music]
and who's going to work june 3rd and then um where are you having your surgery the 3rd or the 17th when we do it the third is there like official paperwork that has to be filled out or is it just literally an email to the
We usually just send a request to to um request permission okay it was there last year so what's what's the big hang up with back library it's
too small too slow and there's no parking and we have to pay for two police details which far exceeds our yearly okay on the old green yeah but it's just too small for the
number of vendors we know this worked out you know this this has worked out well we sort of limiting ourselves by being here but anyway we want to move on we can beat this to death next meeting
now set it up thank you photos for website i was just going to mention that we had been asked to provide some agricultural photos for the town website for our our
web page and we got some from Ed okay i talked to Ken Brack i sent those over okay i haven't looked to see if there are any u and Deb isn't here for the animal inspector and I don't think she had
anything special for us to to report for tonight no I had asked her back no I No there wasn't she just She's good about letting us know she's not going to make a meeting um any other agricultural related issues yeah I just
I had sent you guys a couple of different things one was a recent article from the Lancaster paper on the acres of um farmland that they're preserving and and how they're doing it there's two different entities that are um putting putting farm preserving
farmland um and I just thought you would find out that we'll see we have a ton of farmland here preserving uh the other one was are are we all aware of the Massachusetts farmland action plan it's a long range strategic initiative
intended to guide actions to ensure that farmland and farming are available and viable to current and future generations it focuses on three overlapping goals to address challenges protection access and viability
um so it kind of goes along with what they're doing here but I personally had not been aware that there's a Massachusetts farmland action plan it's on the um massachus.gov website um under Department of Agricultural
Resources and um the goals of the plan to accelerate the permanent protection and stewardship of farmland Increase access to farmland enabling farmland accessibility requires equitable affordable and identifiable
opportunities and options and then support and viability of farms and farm land i mean um and certainly I think Cap plays a a good
role in helping with this in their their area i think they're a little more active on the south coast than in this area um I just want to bring it to your attention since I wasn't familiar with it i've never heard of it
yeah but you know where South Korea that's where the eggs are coming from gonna get your tariff on there though yeah oh we start roof cart rooftop gardens and affordable housing areas
i'd be all match it i'd be happy all of our parking spaces here at the school i know that's where they should be putting solar panels yeah you got all that in the academy i see that road there's great big there's big open
space there the bog and um the bog in Kingston did a great job in their parking lot putting up the solit the parking lot that's it didn't take this um right next to Big Y and Club the race
oh okay they just installed them and they were very quick is the revenue from our solar panels at the old that came up but I don't remember so I can find yeah that did some I see an
inquiry to administrator okay I'd like to know where that revenue is going what it's intended for we used to have a program that could reimburse residents if they did
energy saving upgrades to their home and it was funded by the engine fund once that disappeared that program kind of fell by and where we now have a a different related revenue source i just like to
know what's happening with that yeah that's a good point you know because I really don't want to see a lot of solar panels sitting on farmlands and that sort of thing i just Is was there something Yeah something about if you put solar panels on your
home you could only use one reimbursement or what do they call it like in the we put them on our house i think there's a rebate you could use one or the other and I think Massachusetts one was better than the local but we
they don't even offer it because I did ask one Amazon yeah i mean for residents anyway a lot of people did insulation or they replace windows um um appliances you know you're
replacing a 30-y old appliance heating up energy yeah they humidifiers like things like that yeah i mean it was a really uh viable program it didn't have a huge amount of revenue but it was enough to support residents and in
reducing their energy costs you know panel revenue what can we do to help residents with their costs right now electric bills are crazy right now oh yeah they're all crazy and everybody's watering sewage so we have revenue where's it going
what's it intended for i think it would just be nice to know meeting the 8th of May that would be the second one right yeah since May 8th work for
everybody's Tuesday or Thursday I think what yeah it's a Thursday may You have a date the chili cook off oh yeah you just said that date but maybe promoting sort of running that
safe voting course moonlighting on us yeah so it's the sixth and the eth and it's full um so so I may be able to Well no if we if we don't go too late I can Thank you i can come for the meeting and then go
back about you know Well if you want to just bump it to the 15th i'm out of town let's do the 8th we'll We'll make it We'll make it work okay all right we'll make it work all right as long as we have a quorum that's not the second Tuesday is it second Thursday second
Thursday i put it in my calendar how can I add this does anybody else want a copy of the legislation i'll just go look it up do I have a second second all in favor i