705 follow agricultural commission to order um present this evening are John webble Deb Mueller J sowman Beth Corbett ruy
Santos Christine NAA malr Bruce malr and John Mathias um anyone wishing to make a recording um please notify the chair at this time you have to also say it's being recorded
oh and this is this is being recorded by the local scene formerly pack TV anyone intending to make an audio or video recording of this meeting should please notify to shair at this time what would you do if we all ra our say
go all right um first order business is to approve the minutes January 9th anybody anybody had a chance to look at him y I make a motion we approve the minutes from January 9th I'll second oh
no I'm not going to because I wrote him somebody else do that I'll second okay all in favor please it's unanimous thanks so all right um next item on the agenda is recruitment of new members I didn't hear
I'm actually m i going to be a member or not should I stay an auxilary member oh I'm sorry Karen did you weigh in on that that's you right are you on mute Karen we can't
hear you it just it keeps going in and out there you go oh there you go you're in um how how did you vote on the minutes please yes okay thank you it's unanimous um and K Karen Johnson's also on Zoom back to my
original um recruitment of new new members well we have a potential new member sitting in this evening how many members do you need um well if you know Karen at some point uh why don't you start with what
you have in front of you gent don't you have a resignation yes okay but but spill it John tougher every
day Barry Matias is um resigning and um John Maas is hoping to take his place as fine is in the processing the fine I hope he can get enough votes Barry
has bares it's five on the select board we'll see bar was saying U Barry's resignation hasn't been formally presented it'll be presented for John's application um all right well any
anybody want to talk about new members possible new members what about Beth yeah I I can go from what we associate member to a regular member much farmer is I'm a I mean up
yeah sounds real good but do we have an opening yet no but if you have one yeah yeah so if and when Karen uh resigns then you could apply to be a voting perfect did you get that
Karen yeah okay I thought you had another position maybe a non the the girl that was up your neighbor yeah the one across the street I don't know she went or what happened
was that Magie Meg so what wasn't that a position she was associate I think wasn't she was she was um Missy from the board of selectman is also an associate so we have B and Missy are the three Associates and then the five voting
members so there's eight in total oh great so you've got it all you got well well as long asay like it is but as people leave yeah then we have to but I think that would be great yeah be able to join his V I couldn't before because
I was working that's why a poor excuse I know it was but hey it the best one I could come up with well you'd be great because we know that you will come and right and yeah well ipate I am but you know let me know if youever want to take over the
secretary be You' had it for a while well ruy took it from me and then you took it from R well you know there's nothing like new blood in the in the Chairman's chair can't call you
we'll give you a couple meetings John and then then we'll vote you in June June is we usually vote so don't scare him L I'm not scaring he's not even spor in yet let's get him on the board first all right
um I think we Deen that one to death uh discussion of agricultural programs for 20 25 I'm going to hand that to Jean because she's done a bunch of research on that okay so we have one speaker
lined up for April 30th uh this lady is coming to us from the Massachusetts Master Gardeners Association and she's presenting a program called vegetable gardening 101 Wednesday April 30th 700 p.m. at councel naing okay hold on one
second when is it when 4:30 at what time no 7 p.m. yeah 4:30 April 30th yeah 7 p.m. the councel agent from the mass Master G Massachusetts Master Gardeners
Association okay and it's gardening 101 yes vegetable gardening 101 and did she give you some type of poster or digital anount well you all got what I created and I said what do you think
and I got crickets so I don't know if that meant don't remember I you didn't like it or I didn't see it you didn't see it I sent you the colored copy I don't
want to waste my colored ink at home but this is what it looks like you know I have to go with what word has available I don't have any other programs um I which just got a new computer I'm
trying to figure it out um but I thought you know it's a picture of vegetables and you know that's a good one here so it's really colorful um and I'm sorry if you didn't get it I thought I could be my new comp
um but what I would like to do is to get some color copies made and put up like usual places and give you guys because it is April 30th and even that seems like it's two months away it's only two months away right so and I know ruy you
said you had someone asking about it yep so I did you know I'll get a copy to you for your egg room be nice if Ry could hand out copies tomorrow with this chicken presentation y yeah Al look can we can
photocopy that black and white I have a printer about my printer Tom run off to many copies of color I don't use my printer much you okay but I can I can run off I can have for selectman's office run off a
few color copies I can send it to them electronically and they'll run them all and then I'll just come in and pick them up yes or I'll drop them you do it oh I'm about tomorrow so okay oh I can leave him in the egg room I can leave wherever you want y okay so
here's the deal on that one um it's a it's $225 there's two checks that have to be made out one is $125 to the gardeners Association and then $100 that we're going to hand to the
speaker um when she arrives so I have I've made up the necessary document for the accountant's office to do but again I need at least three signatures
in their you can do that take care of that tonight um any questions on that you know I'll make sure that the library has it because they always have the seed library and then they put up a
a nice display on gardening so I'll ask them if they can put one of our posters right there my if I have a copy I'll go talk to dog see if put it on the side sure they did last time for us yeah yeah so I'll see
if I can't get a dozen copies out of the selectman's office tomorrow and I'll leave them in the mailbox here yeah okay but I'll get yours to you directly because you need them for tomorrow night okay I do not know how many people I'm
going to have but I'd say 10 should do it last I heard it was six s s but that was two weeks ago so that's that one then if you remember we were talking about the lady who does the
[Music] permaculture and I had been corresponding with her because I just wanted to have her come in and do a presentation for us see what see what it's all about and whether or not it's something we would want to promote to
the community so she is busy um she has she runs classes on Thursday evenings from 6:30 to 8:30 but it ends June 5th um so she said we could plan ahead for that or try for another night so I
thought her we'd be meeting in February and then I'd get back to her on that one so if we go to June and the second Thursday is the 12th does that work for everybody for me
to invite her to come to that meeting which which dat June 12 June 12 that would be our regular meeting what your schedule like Christine uh I'm I think I'm home well
I'm potentially home that week but there's a chance I may be going to Canada that week I don't know yet but you don't need me for the presentation no but it would be our regular meeting yeah um but by then John
will be here so yeah I don't I can't I can't tell you for sure I'm at a hor show the week before and then I told my father I would potentially drive to Canada with them that following week but nothing's been said in stone so I don't know all right so I will go if it's all
right I'll go ahead and I'm not I'm open p wise as long as I'm not in Canada okay so may a Canada so John go ahead and okay sure okay women what do you
mean current issue of edible magazine as an article per okay good is that the current one no this is old okay cuz I thought I picked up current one in your egg room yeah the one the current one is much more bright
kinds of stuff but it does have an article from the culture so if you'd like to buy a copy of the magazine she's the um the woman mentioned in that article I think is the one that Jean's talking
about is it I think so she is the one that had the the U booth at the okay yeah all right that's all I had for now all right so just so I'm straight for the minutes
we potentially going to invite her to come to the meeting on June 12th right okay we short presentation for us to determine whether or not it's a topic we think would want to sponsor a full program for
commun I'm just I don't know enough about it myself to know if it would be of interest to abroad people do you think there would be enough interest if we tried to pursue somebody to talk about [Music]
beads bead why not why not did did the um Library something on be possibly want just run it by Donald make sure we're not both
scheduling do you know anybody in the B Club no but the um is it be Club put stuff County yeah no not the B girl oh
yeah name but yeah she is and then kenl is a guy who does the stuff up at the marfield fair so they this health is so bad is it he's the one that comes to the than I mean
he's almost not mobile anymore oh really well there's probably somebody might be what well somebody else maybe within that group yeah I think there's more interest in why but more people talking about
yeah there there is yeah there is [Music] interest interested in that will do that just a little public educational thing you know about it [Music]
[Music] yeah it's it's still a big industry yeah we have so many people doing soap I don't I'm gonna ask a couple of people I know if they'll come do a soap demonstration what about the cheese lady I have it down she kep she hasn't
calling me back so yeah Kina yeah yeah her health is up and down yeah yeah she's had some some health issues so do she make cheese locally no she she well she actually we make I you know she uses my milk and makes cheese and uh she won a
competition um but um yeah she sold it at one of our egg Bears did you guys see that carlo' Neil's Farm is gonna get taken over by a goat lady who makes cheese no and she's gonna St yeah she's going to start like some duckberry brand
um her goat cheese and hopefully like start a business with it I start a thing and I don't remember the lady's name sounded familiar like I've heard it before maybe from you guys do you remember where you saw it yep um it was
on Facebook like Duxbury helping ducksbury or something I think it was Duxbury helping Duxbury one of those Town Pages where they made the announcement I think Carl's keeping a a small group there to milk for the for AG
kids and stuff I think so but it's going to mostly become goats down there oh interesting is they probably have Nigerians yeah I have no idea um but they're going to milk the goats and then she's going to try to start a a um a
cheese business there and it'll be like like Island Creek ghost oysters but like Island Greek goat cheese or whatever it's going to become like a duckburg name product good yeah go cheese very popular now I like go cheese and Linda cook was looking
for local cheese because she does the flowers and wine and and cheese with she's switching to flowers Oh Linda cook with the horses yes because after her surgeries her knee surgeries um she
wasn't able to ride for a long time and she's down to just a couple of horses so she started flower oh okay um as a Kingston yes off Grove Street um what's that
road oh okay yeah and um so this would be the second or third year and she contacted the gal on Main Street about flowers and she does a the one Hospital crooked bar oh
crooked bar yeah so she was looking for local cheese and I okay so that's what I read that that was going to start happening I don't know when but um in the no I think not that I've seen right it's
really once um once Alex stopped being the da inspector around here Megan who took it over is really a pain in the ass she makes it very difficult for anybody she makes it you know it's really difficult to stop being a
commercial Dairy before you know ellex did this for so long it was just he came to my house he said oh all you have to do is this this and this well she came she say well you have to do that and you have to do that you have to do this oh no you know you can't do this you need that and I'm like it totally negated
most of what Alex told me Alex had done it be years so new RS no she didn't know what she was doing she was learning yeah no she said she says I'm trying to learn this I really don't know what I'm doing I'm like oh great this is helpful for us but that's I mean there are a few licensed people
around selling milk but you know and stuff but it's um they make they've been made it very little more difficult yeah you know it's it's actually just a certification it's not grade A but they want you to practically
meet grade eight so you know which is quite an expense you we know that all righty the uh Southeast England agricultural conference sponsored by
C what the heck is the name of the school thank you see any moments are coming Fast and Furious Jo the group I I went out um you know got there nice and early and
actually had a really nice day they um they had a number of different um seminars I went to one on Aven flu and uh one of the ones on aquaculture that um both very interesting very
informative the agriculture was sort of was more of a discussion about some of the programs that have been available that were marginally successful so I get to put my two cents worth in just you know about making some
improvements and some changes but I would recommend it it's a great way to spend the Sunday and they give you lunch and it's a really good lunch so locally sourced up them about the food laor retriever
John how many different seminars you guess probably 12 maybe maybe a couple more I don't think I you go to I didn't go oh just do
yeah John and I went years ago and then I haven't been back it's it's definitely a worthwhile you know worthwhile thing to go to I'll definitely go again next year I had positive feedback on it from people
that I had sent them sent out the information to where is Bristol a what what 138 44 no 72 I think it is I think it is 138
it's not it's not a horrible Drive no half no I I think you I know I took like 7 what is that 78 or something 79 79 yeah when I was on my way down to uh rovus and that I went that way to someone and I went my buy it it was like
oh I well I go 44 to 195 yeah but that's how I get to swans depends what time you go lot times has to go bankrupt it's considered Center Street but it doesn't say the rap number um so anyway you know I recommend
if you have the time it's a nice take they've been doing that a long time m i remember I went there many years ago I'm talking like 30 years ago I think it's a beautiful campus it's a great school they just redid it yeah nice I mean it's like a little it's like a little Ivy
College campus yeah does anybody know if um the nine towns that are represented in South Shore vul I'm not so sure if that vope was Ved through they want to build a brand new
sou Shore right Regional local I don't think they call it locational but it requires the vote of nine towns and the proposed building was like $240 million of which the state was going to
kick in 60% of it maybe 58% of it but in nine towns like an pbrook in those towns they have to vote it in each town and that's that vote was do to come up I was to see a couple months ago this wouldn't be a good
year yeah it might be [Music] tough yeah I don't know how that's vot was I gu yeah it I mean if it has to come up at a town meeting the town meetings don't normally start until
April May they had a all the towns had a special election had a special town meeting a special election and then to see if they were going to go to town meeting I guess I don't know well you would do the town meeting first and then the election maybe they don't did it I only
heard it on ATD I saw something about that on Facebook too yeah that's Kingston's F they only do Kingston business stff here P come talking
about they don't accept any more penro kids any more Duxbury kids because there's so many from Hal Cas well didn't they get out of the uh regional thing anyway they could still go for the vocation ellia told me that last year they had almost 50% of the eth grade
trying to get into y y but because you know they realize kids some kids out there realizing you know why spend 60 Grand on going to college when you can start out in one of those programs get an internship and get your foot in the
door and then go from there and get paid while you're doing it yeah Yool and I know the the nursing program at soil Lake last year when I went to the you know the little banquet what other thing they had to fall every
single one of the I was I'm going to say girls but there may have been a male and there a student there every single one of them I think there were 14 of them were all going on and a couple of them had a deal with some hospital where you come to work for us and we Pony up some
of the money it's nice because they get the certifications while they're in school yeah W yeah by the time they're mostly Juniors they already have the certifications that would get right out Senor year and go right to the yeah they get the certification well they Coop
opportunity too so as they get their foot in the door that program always it's very competitive to get into those programs yeah I got a couple kids that work for me on and off and stuff and it's like you know struggle to get
in had to wait extra year to apply and stuff okay R want to talk about eggs please okay I got a bunch of stuff to tell you about eggs um I'm might s i don't I had an agenda somewhere but I in um stick to
things I'm G start importing Turkish eggs so we there's a there's good news and there's bad news across the across the board in terms of Agriculture um some not so good news is that the
price of food is never coming down for the next year year and a half at least because 63% yeah 63 I think it is percent of all farm labors across the board in the
United States are foreign born and 42% of those are duing in the case of when this current Administration started running people up there were reports in Texas and in Florida of entire crws not showing up at
the height of picking seat because they were afraid of being rounded up and sent off and the illustrious powers that are rounding people up are at times rounding up the wrong people they're rounding up people somebody goes to work and doesn't have a green card they don't care they
just round them up and send them off and it takes days for they can get that straightened away um another piece of nuts of good news is in the five years between 2017 and 2022 142,000 Farms went out of business
in the United States how many 142,000 farms went out of business in the United States um as far as pouth County goes I remember talking to John about this um
between 2012 and 2022 Plymouth County lost 670 Farms just in Plymouth County just in Plymouth County but in 2022 the number of farms went up by three or four and John said he thought
it was because of people wanting to get into oysters well aquaculture yeah the number um in in 207 7 there was 882 Farms then by 217 they
were down 802 Farms now we're up to 89 farms in Plymouth County Le according to all these statistics are from 2023 um of the Farms that
exist today in pouth County more than half 480 produce a value of sales of less than 25,000 so they're all Hobby
Farms no nobody's making aimia well the state likes to count anything we can call a farm that's right uh and of that 480 Farms are making less than 2500 half of them literally half
240 less than 2500s so that's somebody with the bomb standand selling tomato Tomatoes yeah M yeah if if you want to talk about chickens in all of Plymouth County there's
40 is 4,126 chickens in the entire BL County that that have been counted yeah I'm sure there's some that haven't been counted and I assume they get that statistic by rounding up all the
information that you sent in the state I don't I don't sh State doesn't use share I got this numbers I guess can be shared this was from the United States Department of Agriculture 2023 well they send out a survey every year
so who who sends it back yeah yeah 4,12 so the good news is if you want to get two dozen chickens and put them in your backyard price of eggs is not going
down contrary to powers it be okay because it takes six months to raise the chicken before they lay a large egg and uh the Hatchery that I deal with Reich hatchery in carile Pennsylvania I
called down in December to put my order in for March and they told me I just made it under the wire because they were running out of a lot of people ordering chicks um and um
they just said people are are trying to get chickens but you know eggs roach Brothers is selling eggs for $10 a dozen my daughter goes to New Bedford one robbery I mean the big why they I thought I saw the other day weren't they
like five bucks four five bucks if you go to maab basket you can get two dozen for like five bucks yeah I don't know what why roach brother I'm so used to paying $5 because I buy fresh eggs all the time so you know I I didn't think it was that bad but else is hori my daughter goes to newbedford one day a
week for her job and she said they were selling them there for 1129 a dozen new B so and I have seen on television New York City 1499 California 12299 they taken advantage oh of course
they are but a lot of the California stuff is some of the regulations that California oh problems are faced with human May treat it's a lot of outrageous stuff yeah California is
just tough tough stuff I mean tough place to do anything 55% of Massachusetts farmers have a primary occupation other than farming they're all doing something else I think most Farm is across the country
are well there's not enough land here to make it go you know you've got to have t and they tax the land at residential prices they don't give you a farm in New Hampshire you you could get a current use you know but in Massachusetts you pay you pay residential tax on your
land and three4 of all the Farms that exist in Plymouth County are owned and operated by people of age 65 or old 75% uh yeah 678 out of 809 so that's
three qu 34 75% Maybe 80% and that was farms in where is that mass or FL County that's in Massachusetts now you know even if you had in a right to farm town like Kingston and you wanted to put a dozen hens in your backyard and you're willing
to Pony up the money for the first six months you can then sell the eggs for six and7 a dozen and people will buy them I mean they I sell out every single day and there's only seven or eight or nine dozen now we'll see what happens when we
get to September October and November when I'll have 230 hens lay in as opposed to 115 or 20 right now but right now everything goes every day you know I think the younger gener a
lot of people don't want to get into farming in the younger generation because it's not a pristine clean business there's a lot of animal stuff to deal with it's a lot of poop you know it's you you got to deal with you know
got to pay to have to ha it away or you got to put it in the garden or you can sell it like I do um but it's just a business that the younger generation doesn't want to get into anyway okay let's talk about
um Aven influenza for which I brought my friend along over there is he healthy he's healthy he hasn't been out with the wild Gees no that's another thing you know people who are raising their chickens in their
backyard and they want the idolic thing of letting them around fre yeah free range um they're really playing with dynamite because the Apen influenza is spread by
wet waterfall Prim arly geese and Ducks oh and the discouraging thing is I found there is a breed of duck duck what Ducks one duck two ducks I don't know a breed of those things they call ducks
that they have determined as a carrier but it doesn't die I got that out of University of Wisconsin and Madison said they just came across that somewhere so let's hope it doesn't
domestic duck or a wild duck probably a wild so I don't know if that gives us so there a carrier they are a carrier typhoid Mir all right talk about Aven influence um according
to um the scientists it's a contagious respiratory disease that pretty much reappears in in the United States every five years 3 to five years you get it not always as
as deadly as this one and it's like the flu just keeps coming back it transitions it morphs and it comes back there are excuse me say every three to five years three to five years yeah at least that's based on past history and
there there isn't anything that seems to to um indicate it's going to stop now you know if the government shows up on your chicken farm they got to try to figure out if your chickens have Aven influenza there are some things that the
farmer would note right off the bat but there's one in particular that I brought my friend to show you um if you're a farmer the first thing you look for in chickens is is the F production gone down I mean the food consumption gone
down chickens eat constantly if they're up it's just part of their nature so you should be able to tell from day to day if all of a sudden there's an excess of food in the fetus
and then the next day it's there again that's a warning sign also the same thing with um water is there water consumption going down lack of energy misshaped eggs
noticeable egg reduction those are all things that the farmer should be seeing but the thing that they look for over here on this guy does he have a name huh does he have a name she
she don't lay of the chicken it's called watles w a TT l s yeah it is supposed to be read along with a comb comb all the time it's full of
capillaries yeah cap and it what these things help the chicken cool down in hot weather blood flow increases in they they cool down when the hen gets about a year and a
half right along here you'll start to notice some discoloration it's a little grayer but if this turns purple or blue you've got ABN and fluen that's the way that's what they
come they come and they look at a flock they see one or two hens that has these WS any shade of purple or blue hey ruy would you mind doing that so that it can be on the on the camera so people can
see it you put to the um the way the government durans if your flock has Aven influenza is by examining is by looking at the chickens and looking at these two aspects not so
much the comb but at these wattas that's the only word I've ever heard of they hang down they are there to um cool the bir down in hot weather because of the large number of capillaries that
go through here when a hen when a mature hen gets to about a year and a half this part right below just the lower you know not even a quarter an in eighth of an inch starts to lose its redness because
of age but if the entire watas has a blue or purple Hue to it then you have Aven influence in your flock and the government comes in it only takes one bird for them to find
they take the whole flock and they wipe it out now I did find out you do get reimbursed but a lot of the small farms people with you know less than a couple of thousand Birds if the government comes in and wipes them out they're not going to go back into
business because so many of the farmers are doing something else um and so the Farms just decreasing number how do they get rid of the birds that I don't know my guess is they probably burn them yeah and that would be my guess because I
don't imagine they would want to bury them on the property right I I didn't find that out big thousand you've been hold yeah but I guess they have some kind of you know ecologically
sound system to you know to get rid of them but there I also found out that the majority of eggs in in this part of the country come out of Iowa and Missouri where there are farms I don't have the statistics now I was going to look them
up where there are farms that have millions Lings I've seen photos of them looks like a wagon wheel all the feed bins are in the middle and the houses go out like Spokes and every one of the houses has 200,000 hens
in okay so it says comp posting is the most efficient and environmentally responsible method of disposal for the bird carcasses with flue the compost piles must rise to temperatures that ensure the virus is inactivated they're monitored daily with thermometers to
ensure temperature levels are consistently maintained how do they compost it on the property and then one big hill probably per purpose management um yeah mhm an
in yeah that's been done with just the anal guys that throw them in the man PS they do that that's one of yeah that's that's one of the approved ways of uh it'll be disposing of them composting yeah but you got really it's really hard to do it well enough so the coyotes
don't get them yeah I was G to say yeah coyotes coyotes will dig like three feet of anything to get to something yeah so thanks ruy would seem that you have to Maybe cover the pile probably fence it off or something
yeah yeah which would help with the raising the temperature now do you uh this is just a question for you putting like um this is like little Farmers like putting um like tops over not free range chickens they're in their pens but people putting
tops over the pens so that anything that's line by can't leave any droppings do you think that's it could be a possibility but uh these bir are already approved they've already been inspected yeah um I don't know about whe the small birds
like sparrows or chickies or anything like that whether or not they're spreading as well I do not know that I didn't find that anywhere I haven't seen that yeah right now it's wild wet F they saying on
may may just spre but they are worried about the Scavengers with disposal as they we know that the aan influenza is in cows we know it's in cats and they just had a report out of new B where a seal
died yes I saw that oh at the zoo yeah yeah one of the zoos might been one of the questions uh just to go back to the um seminar that I went to was people asked about turkeys and apparently
turkeys AR they haven't been affected they only like L one one three days but well no they haven't been they hav gotten sick gotten sick yeah it's so far so you ask about sparrows sparrows are highly susceptible to the influenza
infection however they do not transmit to Sentinel contact Birds just so if they're in your fter houses they could facilitate fire spr much for the very the
um Department of Agriculture as of February 8th had disposed of C 145 million h and that was from
1410 commercial flocks and 637 backyard fs and in Plymouth the Avan influen was found was found I believe in a backyard flock yes
as well as wild GE on dington sea and in Plymouth I was told that uh they weren't even taking the carcasses off the uh off the bonds because the department of whatever is in charge of
that did not P but everybody knows Plymouth has as many Pawn it's 365 pawns they did not have the Personnel nor the equipment to get out under the ice to get the caucuses and I was told that I thought
they brought the state in and and Fish and Wildlife is doing is doing the wildlife part is joining the domestic so and they had a big outbreak at uh Fields Park in Brockton too yeah close that
though well any place you go now there's a field there's peace oh yeah you know everywhere every state in the United States has been affected and impacted and Aven influenza has been found
um dairy cows to 92 29 Dairy herds in 16 States now I don't know if they put cows down I didn't find that out I don't think they do I I I I think that the cows just just it goes through and they
just work it they I did I I can't State my like but I I believe that they don't put the cows down because the cows survive it quite well last but not least the U University of Wisconsin had madicon some Professor
Friedrich theology has said that the signs of the Aven influence the way it has transitioned into cows the version that in cows is very similar has it take that
back has the characteristics of the same kind of flues that humans get so they're cautiously they're cautiously watching the cows to see because there have been a couple of people that have been infected from dealing with cows working
with cows do you think we have enough information on on the town website and we've put a lot of material there what do you think um I I put together a combination
of information from different agencies and um you emailed that to everybody didn't and then Joanna Animal Control put it up on their site it was I just there was so much
information that was specific to to looking for it or disposing or whatever I just took it all and compiled it into one document which I have and then uh she posted it on the animal control
they don't have anything like any kind of working on any kind of like inoculation part or anything they bad well that's that's the good news the bad news is that probably be very expensive to an of Health
and Human Services had allocated $590 million to speed up the development of vaccines to deal with the Aven influenza and that's been St that's been cut probably everything else has been cut I
don't know that for sure but and the other thing that I read is that the country is weary of uh vaccines there's been so much misinformation sent out there wrong information on I certainly hope the
cases in Texas are yeah helping people to see what can happen yeah the fact that a poor child had Le their life because one was this
the saw meil can be deadly that's why you vaccinate and it's too bad a poor child had to pay the price but the people that are coming in they're bringing in a lot of this stuff they aren't stopping them at the border making sure they're
healthy unvaccinated people that choose not to they're antivin yep so something like I can see not getting the covid vaccine because it's a virus because it's going to mutate every year but something like Mees is a disease a
disease is a totally different thing I I know people that have had adverse problems with the covid my my nephew has permanent hot damage um I know other people who' ended up in the hospital because of get the shot and Stu you know I'm a little bit of you know ly
of that of virus things measles is pretty well meas is a disease so that's a yeah document but back to the Aven flu vaccine just the cost alone and trying to vaccinate every bird I mean it's
quite an undertaking yes it's impossible really how well I said you couldn't possibly do the wild birds unless you found a way to put it out there in nature and then what else does it affect they do that with
rabies they do it with rabies yeah yeah well let's say they have done it with Ries they have yes it's quite an undertaking it's extremely expensive it's it's there's a lot of personnel involved a lot of them are
volunteers and that's only just Southeastern Massachusetts really and how many do you chickens do you normally have i s them get over 230 to 40 okay so divide that by eight of
us how many birds can you of this vaccinated usually the vaccines that go to chickens or it's in the water you right in water yeah you deprive them of water for like eight or 10 hours then you mix them water and give it to them
they flock to the water and that's that's the only way that I years ago before they had the disease was cidos years ago cidos you used to have to inoculate the
chickens and I remember with my parents catching and the chickens and dividing the building up in half catching the chickens and then you would pick them up and under the hen you just under the wing of the hen you would just pull out the
um the little pin pin feathers that are there we had a a a needle two two prongs that was Hollow and you stuck it in a vial vaccine and you stuck it in the end and
then you let it go you just have to do them all I said yeah and Dick W you know dick W dick W used to work with my dad all the time and myself to
2000s but that was the that was the 1950s would have been late 6s but now everything that vitamins every supplements it it's all it all go in the water all goes in the water well that's good that's much
better much easier oh yeah yeah yeah because and they all and they all drink so you know it's kind of evenly distributed you just deprive them of water not usually not usually 10 hours usually six eight hours yeah because
chicken people don't realize this but chickens drink twice as much water as he they eat mhm 100 chickens this time of year will drink let see three about nine gallons of water in the summertime they'll drink 15
gallons because they're so yeah and you'll also notice if you have chickens talk about the wless when hens drink water often times that goes into the water and helps them cool off and one of the problems you have with hens for
manure control is you get hundreds of hens into the water the watet get wet and they do this and then it wets all the manure around the water then you shovel the wet manure
and you get hernings that's when you send the younger people out to shuffle it's hard to find young help all right um 2025 agricultural Affair thought we have I think
everybody's had a chance to read this from the U from Missy datman s's representative she spoke to the town attorney I hope she'd be here tonight to explain this yeah I was wondering what it
said no I read it I I was going to say read it too that's why I was hoping that we had a a little clearer explanation if anybody has one please what yeah what do you need to know which part the COI is just a
Certificate of Insurance yeah does it say yes or no oh okay Town committee the town employees well no Town employees this is a Town Event the town was to hold this event on non-owned property I would assume the owner of the property
would request the Kingston issue a Certificate of Insurance to show the town that's covered for the event we would issue that for Town Event we would need to see the agreement contract the town would engage for use of the
space and what thank you and and what insurance requirements the property owner would be requested lastly I am assuming Kingston and its employees are running this event volunteers that's us who will work the event must sign a
waivers this W we've never done that any vendors contracted to participate would have to provide coverage of insurance to the [Music] town they can send us the minimum limits and coverage naming the town as an
additionally sugar and as always have any vendors no that'll be it for vendors yeah well maybe the vendors can be my guest not and does this also include if we do it
on Town property again I'm thinking that at least so we need that clarified yeah I'm thinking at least the the the volunteers who work the event must sign waivers I'm guessing that would apply and then the vendors would
have to provide coverage or Insurance to the town and then we have all the requirements from the Board of Health that our vendors have to have to fulfill and I haven't got remember John she said they were GNA update this and yes and I
haven't gotten anything from her yet I check I spoke with recently recently couple of weeks ago okay and she said she checked the website she didn't seem real receptive to reducing
this was the agent choice right okay um she checked it and it was $75 and she said that's the cost of doing a business John didn't she say they were willing to to revisit that I thought you
would had a discussion with her she indicated to you that they would I wasn't part of it unfortunately weren't you okay why was I thinking you were there that's what she emailed or told me to inv the office she came back and said it's $75 because I said you know she then she
wanted examples of people which I have um I just said that you know it's it's a big expense when you're for one day event and it's three hours it's not even a whole day no it's not even a half day right I know so I don't think they stand
why would I show up if I'm gathering right now yeah you know 7even to n doz in a day right at seven bucks so we're looking at $65 79 is 63 yeah right so I'm G to show up a nine dozen eggs to sell nine dozen
eggs and pay $75 for is one what I'm gonna see that's what I needed that kind of I I didn't have a response yeah okay so what about and this is I don't know if this is doable or not but what if what if we
named it just open Farm day at timber Hill stable and didn't write Kingston eggc com on it I don't know if we could put like a booth up for Kingston eggc com sure but
you're actually my guests on my property instead of it being Town sponsored do you know what I mean I do the set I mean I would talk to my insurance company but I have I have a lot of insurance coverage because it's a public business
so you know I would tell my insurance guy that we were going to host this but call it like open Farm day like like they used to do with Crow o' meals they would do a farm day and then have a booth for the
egom that way people wouldn't have to do all this crap they could just pull it and set up for the day and just call we can't call it Kingston found no we wouldn't call it that we we'd have to yeah it would just be like timber Hill open Farm day we didn't have to put
Timber Hill just open Farm day and then the first thing they could come to would be the eggcombat the eggc com I don't know just an idea of how to how to get around some of the red tape you really have to check on your
insurance I will I'll talk to my dad but I can't imagine that I'm not we have what if I was having a party we have to be sure we can attend as a as a town an but you're my friends I think we could yeah you're my friends we
could um but it just it's stupid we started out with this little tiny egg there and we grown it a little bit and now they want to killing and it's a great Sunday event for for three hours
yeah with you know with I know I know this F is like up in Maine and stuff require the exhibitors to have insurance but I'll have I I didn't pay attention because I wasn't going to these fairs but somewhere somehow you can get you
can get insurance for a dollar to go to the fair you have to have a million dollar insurance or something but they have a way of getting people you can buy it for like a dollar or something cheap like I'll have to look into it I may not have the N exact figures but if they're showing goats at the fair they're not
paying sending a lot of money you know because what I'm thinking is um you know could we just get a r sign of waiver saying they won't hold the town responsible I mean that means everybody that comes through the gate you've got
to have them and I don't think a parent and I may be wrong I'm just V okay well next question okay sorry ahead what does this do I wonder if the library is going to have another Li Brewer just what I was going to talk
about what what does that do to that event with all this okay well I got a call I got an email from uh Debbie Grace she's on the foundation yeah and she asked if we had set a date for aair because they're working on setting it
the libr So I responded and I said would you consider either holding your library event at the townhouse in conjunction with our tfir or offsite I didn't say where I just said offsite and she said well I'm not
the chairman of the committee but I will take it back to the committee to see if they would be open to that so John you read our MS I'm just thinking if this
is I'm not thinking good thoughts right now with all this it's just silly because they're just trying to do something fun for the for people for free for an a promotes some good stuff it gets people out vendors up right I know you ever go to a jerk
trap St that's the most fun you've been having River yeah right they still have their motorcycle scrambles and car I can't remember going no they C sto few years ago did
they field we're actually going to put a call into our agent this week about Farm plates and some other stuff so we'll talk to him about it and see what he says because with volunteers at the
shelter um they have to sign a waiver well at the time Town Council said they're not worth the paper they written oh okay he said you can never wave your right to so yeah that sounds that sounds
think about that you changed your mind so I I don't know our place doing what you wanted to say the only problem with that is like say want to bring that account
put his hand right yes that yeah but but I mean an animal we just asked them to have someone standing by the animal to oversee or something right you know which most people do I don't think anybody leaves you sit by your goats the
guy with the Llama sits by the llama and the cows we've had for the cowp they've been holding them on yep yeah on ropes you know so they're not meering around over the veterans sign put a sign up on every single fence
outfit an animal that this real put these are live animals that behave you know randomly like animals yeah you know it's not in Disney yeah so I don't know what to tell you J that's the
information we have um but it would be we should see what the library has to say from their ability standpoint see if they're getting the same information I mean they serving alcohol too right because the other thing like when
you said have it at another meeting I don't know that I want the brewery event at my property with alcohol no you gotta say no to that yeah I don't want to combine that because that takes it to a different level yes and I don't want to do
that it's all just right but that's why we needed to start to see where we right you know what we were going to run into what we're GNA do are there any other communities around that do something similar through their adcon the only
thing I could think of was when they did Farm day at car O'Neal they would do it every year at the end of the summer do you know who oriz I don't but Jimmy neelon probably he's the guy that brought the cows here he probably knows who did
it yeah but of course the town of Duxbury owns the farm so that is one other that's a different situation but we'll talk to our insurance guy and get some information
in how many people couple hundred maybe and they're not always all there at the same time they kind of float in and out right yeah you've got your early birds and you got the people come later y mhm have people continuously coming
through yeah and they might stay longer where they'll be if more to watch if there'll be more to do if we have some demos going on we're giving pony rides I was thinking if we could get John we's wagon that used to be Your Wagon we could pull it around the fields with a tractor and
give rides in the wagon like stuff like that fun so people might like stay longer but make sure you mention that yeah what' you say and I mean even
just walk with kids petting horses or whatnot you know mean I just mean that's more for them to look at so they may stay longer yeah that's what I meant yeah yeah you know yeah
yeah it's it gets more complicated was um was that written down that she pull those numbers out of her hat is that actually like part of the Town thing or yeah you mean from the Board of Health yeah is that actually
what they want people to do for that I mean it's it's been on the records before this a new thing well she did say something about if they if their food truck is in Kingston they already have have like a permit I
don't know if they need another day permit I guess I'm not I can't imagine that they would if the truck is already has a permit there's a temporary one day event application for yes because you can hire some of
these food TRS to come to your own party you know what I mean so they must have their own permits for the town I would think $35 a day to drive around town yeah that why the the beer company couldn't come because they hadn't
submitted their application and had to approve by the sele but some of those food trucks probably have one for the season like some sort of a know that go out every time they're gonna drive the truck around and have a new permit no because like Amber had a
couple that came to her house for a party for kids one time they came parked kids got I don't know ice cream out of one pizza and stuff out of another one I don't think she got permits to do that I think she hired them and they
already had whatever they needed they may have known what they had to get ahead of yeah and one other question the heading on this it says response from insurance um I wonder if this was from
insurance or from Town Council well I don't know at the endend it says Town Council reviews all contracts I I'm not sure who she went through and is well it says and because it says liability insurance answer for an offsite property
event that's the heading yeah I'm sorry she's not here tonight I knew we would have some questions because some of this just I don't see little venders and I know we discussed
this no I don't even make any money there why would I spend $75 you know it's not even like I'm selling anything there I'm just I'm a display right yeah I mean it's a promotional event primarily yes
yeah all righty uh [Music] please um I went to the um rabies task force meeting in
January um that was that was a nice event and I primarily went because I was curious about the raccoon that showed up in East Ham in November it did test positive um but it wasn't from the cape
or even from Massachusetts USDA is the is the group that does the the vaccines and holds these conferences no USDA no I don't okay I'm still hearing from them may not be
around uh they sent it out uh to uh labs in the Midwest and that raccoon actually came from the um Pennsylvania New York state border so where was it found East Ham I it all the way across the bridge
um it was it was dumped it was dumped at a a rehab so I didn't drive so somebody drove it up from Pennsylvania and dropped it in a well we don't know if somebody drove it or it hitched a ride but it had to get out of the truck and it was dead when
the staff found oh okay and how did they figure out where it was from so USDA has labs and they can um the uh the strain of the rabies they is that how they tell they can tell what the strain of the rabies but they actually do genetic testing oh W and they and
they have genetic tags that they they've done the whole like Eastern United States and so they know they knew when there was Rob there was raccoons of M's Vineyard and they knew they came from Forbe back or something oh my God they
have a big um that's fascinating I know that's why I went and that's so they know where they came where this animal came from uh they were they had been very worried because it was positive that whoever transported it has
been exposed and not receive post exposure but no one ever they never they never did find out no they put up all kinds of stuff on social media and um they never heard
anything I did not see that on Facebook yeah I was not on the right page for that I missed that one'll go home and look for it tonight okay um so that was that meeting and [Music] then I told you I I
started uh the mailing to the barn book group I mail it to myself and I blind copy everybody in it and the first one went out [Music] um you did one about the birth oh here's
the first one yeah the first one was about the New England a conference I get really positive feedback um some people actually went and had a great time yeah I I recommend definitely if uh and that was successful so I knew that it was
working and um so that was the first one on January 23rd and then the second one went out about fe uh February 10th and that was on the buying selling giv away and I sent him out the um the testing and you should be buying from
npip this the uh form that you should be looking for which is this one so that was the second mailing then the third mailing went out by now I think you're all probably getting tired of
me I forwarded the from J to everybody so they would have it and then lastly was the AV influenza um like I said I I developed this
information um document and then with with mdar who's handling the backyard poultry and um fish and wildlife who's handling uh the wildlife portion of it
so I had the information to where a report to which agency how to get rid of dead wild birds that you find and um the announcement that Plymouth County had you know was positive for it
are we not supposed to report dead birds well they only want to know for wild birds if there's more than five so is this a new initiative or is this something you've been doing all along sending out this type of
information to you no she just compiled this email list this year I've never done that I just are you getting any feedback I'm getting positive feedback from from quite a few folks yeah yeah that's a great that's a great great service so what I do is I I mail it to
myself and then I blind I'm not you can't share right information about who's in the B right because that's just goes to the state and the town's not supposed to but they don't have it because nobody sees who else is in the
group so um and I can also use it for you know like if you were looking for a new member and I thought maybe if you were looking for help as a new member um I can use it to spread the word that
way too excellent it wouldn't hurt to put a email out saying that volunteers are always welcome or whatever if anybody's interested in getting more involved so can you out our grure on the vegetable gardening yes
okay it looks like we're you know depending on parents decision it looks like that was going to step yeah but even just to still get people to come to meetings to just to have other people to be the
secretary it has to be an officer it has to be one of that's a rule follower I know I know but if you want to come up with a a blur about wanting help for the once we
know what doing yeah then I can I can just yeah because people need to be fingerprinted drug tested you're an analysis that's a drug test
really promise of your first born um oh I didn't know speaking of a lot of things that technicalities I got a email about the ethics training and everybody that's one town committees is
supposed to take it oh really and where do we take uh it's so I I completed mine on um February 2nd it's um is it because have um a um Kingston
mas.gov email um because there was no announcement like that in our mailboxes so Paul sent it out and said that everybody and all the members has to take this but see that
would have just gone to people with with the town em had to do that before do you want me to find it when you resigned up we had to do it because I thought it meant I'm G take ethics
training I never did either you and I I probably didn't read it all right so I need to find it find that I mean we all we all took it at one point when we joined I think he said it
was but I I well it should be it should be for elected officials and and employes Paul G oh yeah he he sent it out okay and then um I went online and completed
it so I'm all set with that and I I do remember reading something about it they would find you a computer if you didn't have one oh we have a computer just dead most of the time um I think it took
think you need to stop reading I think it took about half an hour to get Ser is it on a on a town website online must be State no it's state state all so you look into that for us
yes I will find that and I um I don't think it's going to reply to us continue I just don't think it will I think was more towards town please pleas um you
want me to forward you a copy when I find it sure okay I can either read it or you can um I I told you my J that I spoke with Joyce where already
talked about that oh and I I also um I found a video from the USDA on biocurity practices to protect C and um they couldn't put the video because it takes too much space but they put a link so J posted that for me
where's that you sent it out is that posted on the website it's on the animal inspector page of the town of Kingston it's a good and lastly was
um the rabies clinic is scheduled for April 5th at the shelter okay yeah and Jean's got it in front of her March 14th is the is legis breast uh Farm
Bureau legislative breakfast March 14th doors open it's 7 a.m. I thought it was what is it called again this is legislative breakfast County Farm Bureau legisla breakfast March 14th and
it Boston in Middleboro I got post that's the one I told you about yeah that where you go goes everywhere you guys yeah yeah but they talk about the
pending legislation whether or not they're in favor of it or not favorite there's usually a ton of um polit politicians there is their opportunity show [Music]
up yeah it's informative you get to meet other people involved in it don't you always ask me what I do and I say I come to [Music] meetings have
any that frightens them more than anything huh that frightens them more than anything say show up yeah so I did send that out but just a reminder you do have to let them know you're coming and they'll have a nice little name tag for
you we signed up right R make sure that it shows you from the agriculture told you were you were coming thank you yeah and John I still haven't looked into membership there how that works it's on my long list of
things to do John I sent you the the picture of the horses that the fisherman in Belgium use to uh cap shrimp right oh I haven't I know you
never the mail it electronic if it goes electronic he only knows if I call him and joh but I thought it was interesting they used the horses they're suited for
waiting through the chilly Waters in the North Sea um but it's the last place on Earth where this unique fishing method is still practiced only na fish keep this tradition alive but they yeah they um
they train these draft horses to assist them in Catching shrimp they weigh more than 2,000 pounds and are perfectly suited for waiting through the chilly Waters uh it says it's one of the most challenging fish techniques ever devised as it demands expertise in healing both
massive horses and delicate shrimp uh the horse fisherman guides a horse parallel to the Shor line about 100 meters out while dragging a large net fitted with a metal chain the chain
startles Bray shrimp driving them into the net then the draft horses um okay it says they're blubby okay the shrimp are beloved delicacy in Belgian Cuisine remarkable of Power Precision
and tradition so they show the horses and they show they've got the baskets on the side which is where they must put the sh oh yeah so I I sent it to John if you he was
our resident Aqua guy right we can team we can Team Up tag team I'll bring the horses we'll drag the O that's all my miscellaneous farming stuff before we um
before we decide to um adjourn uh a March meeting any dates were especially well for anybody well we would we would be scheduled for the 13 uh remember we switched to the second
Thursday oh we did yeah is that what we're planning on the 13th does that work for everyone think we're going Canada no no no no wait are you guys secretly this is the first I've heard
about Canada gu my first question be in the car why are we going to Canada you're not remember my father drive up there and my father's G to be 85 in a couple of weeks and my siblings
and I are concerned about him and my mother driving to Nova Scotia by themselves so I had to make off like I'm dying to go see my aunt and my cousins and drive with them so that they have a chaperon okay so March March
13 I wonder what kind of they use okay March 13 I told you I wasn't going to P you into and I told you that you didn't have to go so we used to have my kids it was the three FS it was family
fun but I had to go in my defense I said I have to egg that is true he did say that lawyer insur if she packs an awful lot of stuff to go in this trapped you may
never see anything will definitely be back I won't have the dog with you won't have the dog if the dog disappears know yeah that's all right Bruce it's the same in my house
John so I'll make a motion to a Jour wait is Karen still there does she have anything no I'm good he still awake Karen barely thank you foring we're not very exciting okay so my one question is
can I resign now so that Beth can take my my place I would say yes we hate to lose you but um yes you may well I had to make sure that there was a somebody that could step up you
know I mean my health my health is just awful so I I never know when I can come well thanks Karen I'm sorry to sorry to see you leave but thank you very much for uh hanging in there for us
but Karen remember you can always zoom in just to see what we're up to or rather yeah if you're feeling good come to yeah yeah you know I I may do that you know I mean I just I'm not even driving yet so I mean this all happened
in the beginning of SE September and I just had another surgery so I just don't ever know what fun and games I'm going to be up to next yeah well you can always tune in and have a few laughs with us yes okay all right you're on the
hook now yeah we may need you to keep an eye on us you know so does she have to do a formal letter of resignation yeah you need to you need to do a letter of resignation to the selectman okay and just um I I don't know if you can just get a
copy to to one of us on the committee please for I can put it in the mail okay but how do we get Beth hooked up before the next meeting so you have a quorum um well first you have to submit your papers and have that approved by
the selectman but at the same meeting we'll have Beth's um volunteer form in there yes so Beth puts her her volunteer form in you know and you know how where that is how to print I'll send it well that's
right you'll have two resignations and two new appointees so that you know that's all you have to do that thanks Karen okay good luck good night Ken take care of yourself please you guys need to vote to
to I'll I'll second all in favor