10 o'clock for the cultural committee. We will begin by on the first agenda item. We're all here by the way. >> Shall we do a roll call? >> Paula Fay, >> Diane Fay, Cora Milik, >> Chris Morano, Susan Sherman.
We will uh now take the time to review the minutes and hopefully vote on them. Please, >> I make a motion we accept the minutes as written. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Do we have to take a hold on Zoom?
>> We're on >> We're on. >> So, nobody sign. It's not recording. >> It is recording. It says recording up in the upper corner. So, we are recording. >> Nobody signed on. You have to acknowledge if there was somebody signed up. >> You only have one.
>> That's how you can get me. >> Hit the button that says video. You'll see us. >> Are we happy now? >> Yes, we are. >> Thank you for checking me. >> We are not happy. >> I'm not either, but that's another
story. Um, okay. So, we have um roll call. Let's do a roll call on that because I think we should on the minutes. Paula Fay I >> Diane Fay I >> Karina Milican I >> Chris Morano I
>> Susan Sherman I >> Okay. And secondly on the minutes are continue review of the application for the grants. >> Okay. So maybe I can help through facilitating this process.
Just let me say I did give you a copy of um the letter from uh Reverend Bruce. >> Oh yeah, I had a letter >> right there. >> Okay. >> This is a new one. >> I can actually go through this.
>> Okay. All right. >> All right. So, just to start reviewing some of the things from last meeting and this meeting, I do know that we had a couple of issues. One of the first issues we had was to reach out to Mass Cultural
Council for the purposes of determining what number they and ourselves would be comfortable with pertaining to available funds which would have been funds from last year that were not uh utilized or potentially are sitting there waiting to
be utilized. So in my conversation with them, I expressed to them the fact that, you know, it's an entirely new group. You're dealing with issues. Well, new group plus one previous, but dealing with issues of uh not knowing what has
cleared through and and settling that out. So after some discussion, they had some numbers that they thought they had from Kingston. They've come back and basically have indicated that what they
will use as the total amount of money that Kingston has to expend this year is $12,650. So that's what we will be reaching for. We'll be reaching for the 8,900 that they gave us this year as the
annual state allocation and additional funds making it up to the 12,650. >> What is left? Because people did not put in Well, that's that's it. We don't necessarily know that because all of
that clearing through hasn't >> necessarily clears if it if it clears through then we don't have that money. Correct. >> If >> and we only have the nine. >> Well, they they feel that based upon what they're seeing that this should
suffice at this point. Okay. >> If that becomes an issue, it does become an issue that we have to deal with. But we also have to realize that some of these people that we award money to is because it's reimbursement. It's not just a we're giving you 500. Here it is. We're giving you 500.
>> They have to do their >> They have to do their one. >> All right. So Paula, could I ask a question at this time because I don't know the answer being new. >> Who allotss and how do they allot? >> All right. That is >> Do you know? >> No. at at the state level
>> the state level does >> at the state level they receive money from the p the state budget that goes to mass cultural council mass cultural breaks that into various programs they run this is just one of the many programs they run they grant programs
and things like that I like the facility things so they put so much in the pool for local cultural councils then they look at the local cultural council based upon demographics and size. All right. >> Of the town. >> Of the town. All right. And a little bit
of population. They do a mix. This year they've added to it where they've and I think they potentially had it for a portion last year that they've taken specific groups to and allocated some of the money above and beyond town. So like Kingston as a town gets money.
Middleboro as a town gets money but places where there's Native American the tribal council overseeing those various towns >> they get more >> they get well they get they get their own spot of money I see >> that they then can
>> so it's through demographics. The answer is through demographics and history. >> Yeah. they consider it need or community involvement un uncovered or unrepresented communities. So that's how they take it and so they decide that you
get 8,900. Middle borrow got I think 1900 19,000 excuse me you got 8,000 they got 19,000 other communities probably there's probably a whole bunch of communities got the 8,900
you know it's not that they so they do it in chunks. >> Oh I see. Okay. Well, yeah, that's interesting. I mean, that's an awful big difference. 8,000 to the 18,000, did you say? >> But yeah, and it's the population.
>> Size of the community. Depends on how much money they get as well. I mean, we've gotten >> we've had $12,000. Oh, have you? >> But if you live in Somerville, I'm sure you get a whole lot more. >> But why did it deplete to eight? >> Because maybe they didn't get as much money.
less >> or they picked up other things like they they moved to doing the tribal councils which they hadn't done many years back >> but it wasn't lack of use is what I'm checking no
that's what I'm checking it it's consistent >> okay sorry to interrupt but thank you for that education >> so that's what we're working off of so I know you got updated last huh print out. This is the same print out
you received the last time that was all over. >> It's it's it's in green because this is our starting point >> for discussions for today. >> Thank you. >> I just want to go through and review some things that we agreed upon.
>> Uh talk about some things that we had open. >> All right. So the top three sections there we basically agreed upon but on the section that says number seven and number 22 we had said
that we had to go back and do get some feedback on them because we weren't fully comfortable with what was written as their supporting letters or if there was support. So I know you went out to the library and asked about the one that
had Steve those things and your feelings are >> well I feel um it when you want me to read what the email I got an email back from the library director Donald Cologne and he said when I got back to the library after he talked after our last meeting I asked Karen about those
performers and she vaguely remembers Stephen mentioning on them the name Lewis rang a bell to her. So I am not sure if she even had the conversations with them, but if no letters of of support were given, then they may have just been informal discussions. I know you have a small money pie to provide
us. So we know that decisions must be made, but because Steven is out on surgery leave, he's not coming back, Donald said, until the beginning of January, and we need to make a decision before that point. But I would recommend that Stephen has been involved with
these people and would like to see them approved. So, >> okay. And and not only was there some involvement, but at least conveyed that they would relocate it because of the size. So, are we all comfortable that we'll keep them in the pool? >> What numbers are they? >> I sort of these numbers.
>> I sort of feel >> I do too. >> Um but you know, I mean, we'll have to vote on it. I I mean I sort of feel that um it the director didn't even have a >> Well, it wasn't put put to him. It was
put to the record. >> No, I understand that as well, but there was no letter really recommending >> that they wanted to do that program. >> So, there were other programs that they >> did do that. Isn't that correct? I don't
believe >> I think if we step back and we look at it, Kingston did not put out any guidelines. So there was actually no requirement through the application process that there'd be any >> even though we've done that. We've had guidelines in the past. All right.
>> Yeah. That that's what happens when you you know a community doesn't give guidelines. It opens it up to >> We've always had them >> and that's the same >> and the library was aware of that. >> That's the same with our town. the borrow. >> They didn't do guidelines. >> They didn't send them the guidelines
this year. So, when it came down to it, >> they got 45 applications doing >> there's no guidelines saying and lots of them are saying we'll do it anywhere the town can find us. >> So, so they're meeting today. But
>> I I feel uncomfortable for the same reason. I mean, you're saying the library director has an idea about this, but who is the one that's in surgery? >> Stephen Miller, reference librarian. >> He's the reference librarian. >> And I must say, we do have funds.
>> We do have funds. >> So, we'll and we'll probably end up with extra funds if we don't. And then we'll go back and we can huge >> and we've done that and we've reconsidered. >> Not saying that they made a definite person, right? You're saying they're just kept in the
>> they're kept in the loop at this point because we have some work to go through today before we still be if we had funds and >> based on the request. I I think it's okay knowing they've spoken with Stephen and it's something that Stephen is supporting but I well we can't talk to
him at this point. I don't know what we should do. I mean he's not accessible. >> So who put it in? Was it Stephen or was it the librarian? No, it was the it was the performer. Submitted the application. The performer
indicated he had had discussions with Stephen Miller and that Steven Miller was moving it from the library to the big room in the CO, wherever that might be. >> All right. So, and >> and there was some member of the staff that has said that she remembers the
name and the whole room. So from from my standpoint, I'm going to personally say I think there's enough information that we don't drop the person right now because remember we've also said that all of these in the talk that doesn't mean they're going to get the full amount. We still have to go through that process. >> So
>> based on the fact though that he must have discussed it at length because it's changed to the senior center. So I'm thinking that Stephen >> knew enough to have >> knew enough to Yeah. Yeah. So I I think it's >> and we we're seeing that in other town. We're seeing that in Middber where they
have an activities director and they have a um facilities, you know, the head of the council on aging and the facil the activities director submitted stuff for people that said they'd like
to come and perform >> approved >> or approved it and they the person says the activities director told me this will be fine. There's no letter from the head of it or anything and she says, "Well, I let my activities person do the programming because that's her job." All
right. So, we're all right. So, >> at least that someone will consent. >> I think they're worth considering again. Sure. >> Okay. So, now the next entity was Matt York and he was the one was going to do it at the first parish in Kingston.
There was a letter of support for that activity in that event. We had some concerns because the letter as written wasn't fully open. So it was something that the public could attend but it wasn't fully open in that
>> and I spoke with her and she revised it and very clearly. Yeah. And we have I've given you all a copy of that. >> Right. >> Did you get it? >> Right. Yeah. And you know, if we decide to approve it, you know, they come back
for the monies, they have to, you know, show that it's been advertised, those sort of things. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, so we're okay moving with that group at the top now. And now I'm going to go down to the bottom of the first page and onto the second page.
Those were applications that we indicated at that we were not going to fund. Um, number six, the king is dead. They had no reference to the library >> and the library director said he hadn't heard of them. Number num number nine,
the same thing. They looked at the library, right? >> Same thing. He hadn't heard from them. >> Right. >> Number 15, which was the catnip junkies >> for 1800, not heard of them at all. Right. So then we go back to
um number 10 which was the dance >> and they had an environment that was a private corporation uh for >> um without accessibility >> accessibility to the outside and it was truly written that way. So we decided
that that doesn't meet the need of meeting all of the community. And number 21, which was the theft of dignity, >> which said that it would be taken place and be mandatory at the middle school. No reference, no involvement at all. So we had concerns about those. Are we
comfortable that those are the ones that ended process at this point? Yeah. >> Okay. So, now I'm going to say we can put those away and I'm going to give you another sheet and I'm going to explain the other sheet before we go anywhere so people
understand conceptually how it's structured that pass that down to the very end. And that's >> she's still walking. So I have one. Thank you.
>> We're not giving you one to share. >> So >> thank you Paul. >> I've now separated this into two pages. The first page are all the ones that we just went through and we identified what we were going to do with them. All
right. The second page are all of those ones that we still need to discuss. >> Okay. >> They didn't get thrown out the first time around. Remember the first time around we were looking at location, we were looking at letters of support and
clarifying their ability to fulfill all of the community. >> So, so the first page basically is everyone. I'm going to take you to the bottom of the second page because I want you to look at some of those numbers.
You'll notice that the first column matches the first column in your green sheet. That was how much was originally asked for. It was asked for $16,325 in total. That's how much we were going to give to each of them.
>> It was going to give to everyone. >> Right. Right. >> You will notice that the second column now shows $7,620. But if you look at the second column on the green page 76, >> it says 7,100.
>> Oh, 76,200 7,000. >> Yeah, 76,000. >> Thank you. >> You'll notice on the green page 7115. I want to explain to you where that additional money came from. >> Go back to the first page on the white
one >> on the on the white desk. And you will notice that there is a new amount added. >> It's called local cultural council administrative fee. >> That is money that they give a 5%
money out of what you have of all your available >> can be set aside. Now if you look at that when it's set aside you can use it for a variety of things including in it is you can use it for mailings and overall advertisement.
All right. >> So that has some additional use for this committee going. >> But is it for this fiscal year or for next? >> It's for for the fiscal year that this is involved. >> So we can't use this for advertising for
next year. You can use that at the end. That's one thing you can use it for. >> What we did one year is we um we sat at one of the fairs. I don't remember years ago and we got coffee mugs with Kinson Cultural Council on them >> and people could you know so we out that
money and pens or something and they would pay for the >> a little siphon for the mug and we tried to advertise and we had a little flyers. Yeah. >> You can also use it for um advertising
group things like all of the >> 300 events. You can use it for that. It can be used any kinds of things like that if you go through. >> Not our Christmas party. Eh, >> not our personal Christmas party. Sorry tonight, then it's over.
>> Oh, all right. >> Um, all right. So, that $445 is what has changed it has, but it has also changed the bottom line. So, if you're looking between the two, you know where that it wasn't pulled from the
sky. So now if we look at this handout still on the bottom of page two >> right >> the available funds there that are shown of 12,650 that is the amount of our 8,900
plus the amount the cultural council says take from >> so we are going to use that as a line >> that's the line we're going to use. We've currently dispersed 7,620 assuming everything that we picked >> previously is getting is that including
the library and that that's including all right? >> Yep. >> So we have available right now today >> I should move around $5,30. You'll notice on the other side there
it says that we have to be assigned 5,30. >> Y >> we have waiting to get money 6,500 and that is truly those people
>> listed on this second page. So that's who we have to now look at. Okay. All right. So obviously we can't give every one of them money. All right. So we probably should begin
by looking at those that are in the still to be reviewed page. So page two and start asking some questions. They didn't make it because of location of how we did that. >> They obviously and that was the first
knock you out was the location. So all of these are really outside of Kingston. >> Yeah. All right. We fund every one of them. We can't do it. So now this is where it becomes a case of you have to
start looking and say which ones submitted grants at the state level because that's where they go first >> and answered all of the questions on the state form. Would you know the answer to that? >> Yeah, you wrongly do.
>> They're the ones in our book. >> I because >> one of the things if you if you read everyone's questions, you'll notice we all answer the same questions and the very last question they ask you is did
you apply to other cultural councils or tribals and identify the ones that you applied to. So if somebody said I applied to a bunch of local ones or
one of my favorites, I'll tell you in February who I applied to. Well, that's nice. You know, it's kind of like tell me tell me your name, but I'm not going to tell you my name until this date. So those are the ones that you say to yourself, did they read and process
this this grant application, you know, >> did they answer in good faith qu? >> So I will tell you right now as we go through them which ones >> bullet craft says that they will
ask a whole bunch of people in surrounding communities. That's not telling you which ones cuz it doesn't tell you the so scope of surrounding. >> So that's two of them. >> Those are two of them. >> All right. >> North River. >> North River did identify.
>> Sure. >> All right. The the only other one that did not identify and receive money previous years from a whole bunch of places, but they don't tell you that they identify.
>> Some of it. >> No. No. Oh, they give you a list of mile one. They're out to >> denim, >> right? >> Um, nope. It's It's in middle barrow. >> It's soul homestead. >> Soul homestead. >> They don't tell you yet. They actually, I believe, received money last year from kids, too. All right.
>> Plus, I a lot of people go there go take part >> and they go >> money last year. >> I'm sure they did. And the issue is, you know, >> when you don't do that, you're not following the rules of what's being done.
>> Is that in the guidelines? >> Well, it is. >> Well, it is because they ask you the question. They ask you the question. All right. >> So, you know. >> So, those are the only two. >> Those are the only two. >> Well, actually three because um >> North River and Soul. >> Soul.
>> No. No. North River did was all right. >> Full of crap. >> Full of crap. They have two requests and soul was the other one. Doesn't mean you have to cut them out completely, >> right? >> But they're but but they are questionable. So now
>> I got to find Oh god. Closing up. I got to pull up my my sheet. I'm gonna quickly do something right now. One of these because I want to show you what numbers we're now working with.
I'm just going to go through and I got a spreadsheet here and I'm just going to put in the numbers that show everyone else that they asked for. Okay. >> Or the full amount. You mean >> I'm going to put the full amount because that helps us to start
>> having another conversation. >> I mean >> because a lot of this is >> sometimes we've gone through the next ones and say okay which ones do we want to consider? Do they have some of you know did they have >> so I am going to ask some of the questions.
>> I'm going to ask a special question. of any of those that remained, >> was there anyone that you said to yourself, "What the heck is this pro program and should we be funded?"
>> Yeah, I think the best practice I have to look at that one for number 14 >> practice best practicing. >> Yeah, >> that that application is more of an online >> Yes. >> aspects. They they create videos that
are then available for you to use. >> Their focus is actually on two types of entities. Their focus is on artists. >> So, you know, if you're a weaver or whatever, it gives you information on
how to apply for grants that are out there. It gives you information on how to fund or restructure aspects of what you do. And it gives you information on marketing and how to market it. >> All right? how to design flyers, those kinds of things. And if you're a
nonprofit focused on supporting cultural events, all right, >> it gives you ideas there. So, it's sort of like a support system for the artists and the cultural community.
>> I guess for me, I did I would think they go directly to Mass Cultural Council. >> Mass Cultural doesn't offer that service at all. >> Oh, okay. >> Surprise. So looking at >> say that would be you know >> and for anyone else their other
opportunities are they can pay to go to some of these bigger conferences that are out there >> and they did say they went to like 9,000 different places >> that Yeah. And that there are people >> there are appears to be people using
their system. >> Yes. Um, it was kind of enlightening for myself, too, because I know as a nonprofit, there's a big nonprofit state organization, but it's all kinds of nonprofit. It's it's, you know, it could be people that are doing food
service type things, >> but it's not cultural based. So, this kind of narrowed it down there. What bothers me is if you um have you applied to other cultural councils for funding >> and they were honest and said yeah >> and they >> yeah but they're all on you know much
further south west >> and none of them I mean we are the closest they have us listed Plymouth is listed which I would think would be appropriate but it's Rochester Swansy Somerset Taton where Hambridge
>> well Cambridge is a little out there isn't and cushion. It just seemed like we're that much further. I have a little bit of an issue with that. >> All right. So, now some things that we can talk about on that one is it wasn't a poor choice on their naming that the
original people who started this process as a small group before they even started to ask for money named themselves Southshore or whatever that South Coast, >> you know, and well, it is South Coast. Well, they No, they actually name
themselves best practice best practice. They started in New Bedford, but as a small group, >> but it does say South Coast and online. That's their name >> target audience. >> So, why is that a bad thing? >> Well, it's not. It just kind of excludes in my mind Kingston, Dubury.
>> I think that Plymouth would be the furthest. >> There is Plymouth there. >> Yeah. But then they go to Cambridge, right? Isn't that >> Well, Cambridge is out of the box. I mean I don't understand >> but I think it's because and that now spread themselves to be right >> online right >> I think those initial people that
started it could have done that but so so that's one that you know we we talked about so at least we've got some ideas and and I'm not saying let's do anything yet but I do want to say let's look right now >> at >> it's only $200 to >> right
>> let's look right now >> is under isn't it >> isn't it 250 is what if you if you listen to their things they say ask for $250. >> So these people >> were happy with >> we're happy with 200 you know and I've
seen people ask for $100 too and it's like why did you waste time doing this? >> Yeah. >> So but let's look at the bottom page here on on your sheets because I just put in all of those numbers excluding >> Are we on the green sheet or >> No, the green sheet's gone. >> Oh. Oh,
>> white sheet. The white sheet. >> All right. Sorry. >> The new white sheet. >> Yep. So if you look at this to be assigned was $5,30 >> right now awaiting to be assigned. All right
>> is 65. Yes, 500. >> 650. Now I >> 6,000 worry about what >> my mind is going to be. But if we looked at it on the other side, having assigned
all of those people less soul and the fuller museum, >> we have a total of $13,470 that we would be putting out. >> Where are you getting that number? >> Adding everything. >> I am getting that.
>> Let's go through this. So, you're just saying >> I gave I I didn't give anything to soul. I full twice >> and I didn't give anything to soul. I gave everyone else the same what am I asked for. >> Okay. And that total is what?
>> 13,470. >> So we're still over. >> So we are over. >> So now you have to start making some decisions as we would, what >> $47, right? >> So we're over by $820, right?
So, >> so you can fix that real easily, I would think. Um, North River is looking for a thousand, we could give them 500. The Philarmonics looking for a,000, we could give them 500.
>> All right. So, now if we start thinking it from that standpoint, >> I mean, >> and and and and I think that is a good strategy to take. All right. But you're also looking at the YMCA in handover, >> right? >> But I do think there are people
>> here in Kingston that would take advantage of some of those things. >> All right. So, so let's look at it from >> Well, let's look at the program uh 18 YMCA in handover, >> you know. Um
>> they those are those are those are nature centers. handover is at 19. 18 doesn't say where it is. >> Um, >> it says the nature center. I don't know where the YMCA nature center is. >> I think that was still local, too. I can't
19. >> 18 is just the nature center for the YMCA. I'm wondering where it's located. The one underneath it that's YMCA is in Hanover, but the one above it doesn't specify where their nature center is. I have no idea.
>> Well, wait a minute. It says um the Cape Cod Cranberry Growers Association salmon is basic one of >> I've gone to that once. It was awesome. >> They were only asking 300, too.
So, >> I mean, you can, you know, you can um cut the thousand down to 500 there. >> I really I mean, I sort of feel bad about the SU Homestead because I know people in Kingston go. >> So, I know that he did me put all the
different cultural councils he goes to, but I mean, I know that that's an established thing that people here have taken advantage of. I >> So, I sort of feel, >> you know, to give to give some money then to
>> increase it to 500, >> right? Well, we we don't always give them and then um you know, perhaps look at one of the others that we don't know that much about. >> So, can I suggest a strategy? >> Yes. that we look at with this this
group that we look at certain ones if they ask for this amount or below. We fund them completely for what they ask right now. So in other
words, we don't play with uh well let's decide on the amount of those remaining. Mhm. >> Is there a certain dollar amount? Do we want to say anyone that asks for >> what 500 and below >> for 500 and below they're going to get
that full amount of >> excluding the fuller craft and ex excluding >> homestead at this point. >> So, and then we go back and look at the other. So then >> yeah, >> so that would mean that we would take and
I'm going to take every one of those others that asked for more than 500. >> I'm going to take them down. >> So there's only one, two, >> all right. So >> So it would be North River. I'm going to take every one of them down at this point.
>> North River, Filimmonic, and Well, and yeah, North River, Filimmonic, and Central Y and Pine Pine. In what? >> Pinewoods. >> Pinewood. Oh, it is 600.
>> All right. So, now we do that. >> And that's still I'm going to take you back. Just so you know, that's still funding everything that's taken place here in Kingston, right? >> At what they asked for. >> All right. >> And everything projected. So, we haven't played with the Kingston ones. So that
then says that you have taken this and you have now funded $11,120. So you have $1,530 to disperse. All right? Because we've cut everything
down. So So now we have to look at those people. Which would be the first one you look at that's in highest value would be Pinewood Camp. They asked for 600. Do we want to give them the 600?
>> Refresh me on that. >> Give them five >> or give them the five. >> Well, I I say give them the five. >> Give them the five. Me, too. >> So, now we're jumping to the only ones that are there are the thousand ones,
>> right? and >> all right. >> So, if we gave them I don't know. Well, how much money do we have to spend? Let's look at that. We have $1,530. >> So, if we gave them each 700 So,
>> well, if we gave them 500 each, we 500 already. >> You had some left over. So >> that you could give if you wanted to reconsider Sula, you could give him a certain amount amount for their program. >> All right. So >> So let's take those three at a thousand
>> and bring them each to >> 500. Well, they're they're at 500 already. I've cut them to 500. >> Okay. >> And now let's bring them up. >> Well, that's what you did. >> I cut them to 500. Okay. >> So let's bring them up. You want to bring them up to 700? 750. We bring them
up to 72, >> but we've eliminated soul completely. >> That's correct. >> Yeah. Do we want to do that? >> Well, we're going to see how much we have left. >> Well, I'm going to tell you what they're doing that you >> Let me invite people.
>> Sorry, >> the accountant. >> The math professor. >> Yes, the math. >> That's what she was. You know, we were fighting over the fact that we really think some of these are lousy and we want it, but we don't think any of these are
last month. >> Yeah. >> You're right, Karina. Uh, Skull Farms Homestead is a big draw. A lot of people go there. >> All right. Let's see what we have left. >> All right. >> I I agree with you. I think we should give them something rather than exclude
them all together. >> All right. So, let's go back. Are you comfortable, Sue? He's shaking. >> Yeah. Well, I want to hear some numbers first before I say that. >> All right. So, right now, let's summarize where we are right now. >> Right now, >> changing the thousand to five.
>> We have anyone who asked for under 500 got what they asked for. >> Okay. >> Anyone except for um >> Pinewood Camp, the North River. >> All right. Anyone that asked for All right. So, going up.
>> Pinewood asked for 600. It only gave them 500. >> The three that asked for a,000 in this bathroom, we gave them 750. Right. >> We did. >> Yep. So 750. >> All right. >> And what's left?
>> So now what is left is $780, >> right? >> So >> So if you wanted to fund Su or anybody at the Fuller, you could do that. you could reconsider because we have that much money left over.
>> So you could take that >> right >> and and split amongst them. >> Yeah. >> Um >> you can give them more than the 750. >> That's the first thing you said if >> you could reconsider >> s
and fuller if you wanted to >> but not neither of them fulfill the grant application, >> right? On fuller. All right. So, so then we have 780 something. You could fully fund SU if you wanted to.
>> But, but you're but the reason why Fuller went out was because they didn't follow the state rule. >> You got the same thing with soul. So, if you're going to be consistent, you have to kind of take that. >> Well, that's a good point. >> But I think too, you also mentioned the
puller is is I mean far away is f far further away. so to speak. Um, and it's for an afterchool program. >> It Saturday, Sunday program. >> Oh, Saturday, Sunday. I thought >> And I don't believe there's a ch I don't know. I'd have to go back and look. Yeah.
>> Remember, there's charges to go to the events. So, you have to take that. So >> you know so so even say if we wanted to give soul 500 and put them in the 500 pocket that then gives you additional
money so that you can go back and say okay the philarmonic lots of people >> people come from everywhere to go. So instead of giving them, you know, 750, maybe we can fully fund them, >> you know. Um, >> so that still leaves craft out
completely. That leaves >> craft people go to craft. Do you want to cut adults out of the craft >> and give some money to >> give or kids program because they have two different >> or else give it to a craft for all because right for all means it's kids
too, >> right? Yeah. I mean, you have either way, right? And do you fully fund that? >> Right. And that's in the 300 area. I mean, that's below the five. So, you know, this is now where you say, okay, you know, programs sound
>> like pretty interesting. You know, nobody has to write a letter for they have their own venue. It's the museum. I mean, it's it I haven't been, but it's supposed to be a pretty nice >> facility. What? >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. I've been to Poland many
times. Right. >> It's a lovely museum. I I don't lovely, but it's in Brockton, not nearby >> as opposed to the soul homestead of Middleboro. It's much more handy. >> Well, Middle is still far away, too. >> Well, not really. Another side of Plton,
but anyway. >> So, so are we back having a conversation that we may want to give money to Fuller and Soul? We got to make that determination. Although they didn't follow the rules and >> well I see your point. If you're allowing one you should
>> you got to allow both. >> Good. We can be discriminatory in terms of which one we feel is better being a recipient. I mean in terms >> I mean if you're feeling that soul is so so well um I mean it is more local. I do I I I know a lot of people that go to
>> Yes, I know it's well attended >> and the thing you know it is >> are you a right to farm community so of Middle Clinton >> Clinton >> you know that supports the right
>> and those are the people that go to soul homestead I'm sure and and people that are in that farming genre but >> so how what are the numbers All right. Which if we take out Fuller, which is 650,
>> right? >> Well, they're already out. So, >> they're out. Let's go down the >> Let's talk about what your decisions are at this point. I see three decisions that are >> wanted to look at if we're going to look at entities. We probably should look at
Fuller because we're saying we we took them out because we said they didn't follow the fill out the form correctly. All right. So, if we put them back in because we're going to say we're going to ignore that because we're going to ignore that was sold. That's fine. So,
now we have to look at you have $780. If you're just going to split that between fuller >> and soul, >> you would be picking one of the fas to fund,
>> right? So if you want to pick one of the full ones of fun for all >> I sort of feel it should be for Yeah. >> for all. >> We do have other program that's for children. Correct. >> All right. So yeah. >> Yeah. >> So craft for all. >> And do you want to say you didn't fill
out the form right so you don't get all of it? What do you want to say? >> I mean are you going to say that in the email rejection? basically. But but then I thought but then we should as historically we've had
those sort of rules in there since we didn't this year. We're making an exception and you know and >> going forward you know yada yada. >> Well basically on the the letter that most places put forward is that says due to the demand
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> And the fact that we have >> I know it's all online. Don't you do it all online? No. What do you mean by >> just say they're rejected? >> Yeah, but but no, you you can you do a crafting of a letter that the state actually gives you one and it basically
says due to the demand okay and the community needs you did not fulfill. Right. >> You know we were unable to find you this year. >> Right. Right. Right. >> So just one quick question Paula. If we give 300 to what's left >> four >> let me tell you. So we
>> we give that 300 to that one. Mhm. >> You're then left with 480. >> Right. Now, the issue is >> right now you're down to two that I think probably you want to think about. Look at what Pinewood's camp is doing.
What did they say that their entity was? It's in Plymouth. >> I think it's a nature nook. So, it's a place where kids would go and go through it. I'm not sure if I recall or if I just said this would be a great place for do they address
sensory issues on their writer. So let's look at their you understand what I'm saying >> as I would say verbal >> I want to make sure because that's moving >> it's an interactive area for intergenerational families to explore
nature art learn about our indigenuous >> neighbors so all right so it >> they partnered with the herring on Wampenog track. >> So they're partnered with the Wampenog, which >> that's nice.
>> That's good. >> All right. >> They're a native native species. So they got a farm concept. >> They have a book. So they got >> people think literacy is
>> they're going to get a coloring book. >> They have the Wampaog main. >> So they're going to they're expanding it to do the native plantings. What's the name if permitted? It's additional indigenous pictures. So, it's bringing that culture and I believe
Herring Pond is Plymouth North is where their lands were. >> They were they they're not Middleboro lands. I know that because the Lancogs were there. I believe Herring Pond is Plymouth North and then they actually end up in Bourne somehow. And I don't
know how, but they do. Uh maybe down at the mean there's no cost participants they're going to hire some indigenous culture bearers I mean I >> it's interesting >> you know it's free and I think you got
to look at that I don't know what middle bar is all about but I would assume that well I mean Kingston's all about but I assume that you some level of beyond u state average or
federal average here. You're an EJC uh lower income environment somewhere somewhere populated >> usually have communities unless you have ocean something big time growers.
>> Um so instead of do we want to say go with the six give them the six. >> Yeah that's something do you agree? >> Yep. I'm fine with that. >> If it means we're not giving to soul. >> No, we're going to go back and give
>> them the six. >> Then you have $380. >> Yeah. >> So that's funding sold at about half its amount. >> All right. Now, you can give them the
whole 380 and call it a day, or you can say, "Well, half of 750 is 375." And try to get there, similar to what you did with, but you're going to have five bucks to give. >> I I mean, I think that
>> you sold 380. Is that what we're thinking? >> Yeah. >> All right. We got a face here. So, what are you thinking? I would rather keep their uh Pinewoods camp at 500 and give 480 to Soul Homestead. 480 is closer to half of what they asked for. So that's I
would that's what I would like to see. But it's a much bigger operation. It It's a family event, multiple family events, sheep day, harvest day. I do think they charge, right? >> They do charge. In fact, look at your right. They're number 16 does not
charge. >> No. And is is Pinewood a one day event, >> right? And no, Pinewood is a 15-day event. Is that what it's saying? >> And did they apply to other cultural councils? >> They they did. They applied to Plymouth.
They applied to uh the Harry Pond tribe. Yeah. They were born. They applied to Nashby and they applied to the lot. >> It's got lots of uh resources >> but soul doesn't soul soul everybody.
>> So let's look at let's look at soul from the standpoint of that's so let's look at that because now you're getting down to what is the mix and what is the history you know >> right? >> So you have to look at the budget page.
It's two different dates. It's May and September. >> It's two different events. That's correct. >> Right. All right. >> And if we look at a charge, >> state charge. >> All right. That's 17.
>> That's okay. >> No, I'm taking the wrong one. >> 16. >> 16. 16. >> Oh, that's fine. I don't mean to. I'm not going to make >> No, no, no, no, no. I think these are the kinds of conversations you have >> we need to have because they if they
raise a question >> then you have >> well I'm just trying to think of worthiness and I I I just but anyway it's fine I'm fine with it >> do do you remember if soul got money last year >> oh she has information
>> why why don't we look at this one is that let's go back since these are the two we're dealing with let's go back and make pinewood And I want to say do six. No, not 650. 550. >> Okay.
>> Yep. We've given >> But we've given 500. >> Oh, okay. >> So, >> okay. >> Who is that music at at the soul homestead? >> So, changing pinewood to 500. She said
>> that's that's what I'm doing. But last year you gave them 500. But I don't know if this was last year. This was 23 and the program was a music program. Music at the hospital. >> Are you talking Pinewood or So, >> so let's go back. >> We've never gotten anything for
Pinewood. Oh, um I take that back. We >> Pinewood I think was new to you last year. >> Yeah. >> So, let's do this. Let's take the 550 >> because we actually did take the the big ones asking for a thousand down if we look at it from that. >> That's a good point. So, pinewood down
to 515 and then I'm going to go back to soul and I'm going to first only for my p perspective make it zero so I can tell you what we have now available. >> Yeah, >> we would have available 400
and how >> 480. It was 480. Oh, no it was 430. >> We have 430 now available. Right. >> Is that something? >> That's good. I'm happy with that. 430 in there >> instead of 480 because we gave the an additional 50 to Pinewood
>> Pinewood. >> So they get 550 for that is that Pinewood does not charge. >> All right. Where soul does charge and then you have to start looking at what are they doing. >> Pinewood is enhancing.
>> So what about this one? Are we done with them? No. >> And they're a totally different program. I think they're still in. >> They're in. All these others are in. These are the ones we made. Yeah. All right. >> So, let's go through it one by one. >> All right. I'm going to pull >> is out.
>> No. Number two, but three. >> Two is out. Three is in at 300. >> Right. >> 1150. >> Right. >> Then Pinewood's camp is 550. >> Right. >> Phil Harmonic is 750.
>> Right. >> Best practice is 200. >> Yep. Soul Homestead 430. >> Yep. >> Southshore Art >> 500. >> 500. Southshore Y 300. And then number 19, Southshore White is 750. Correct.
>> And then Broad Cold Corral is 500. >> Good. And that adds, right? >> And that means that you had $12,650 to spend, right? This year you dispersed 12,650. And now just to do a summary across the
board, >> you've put aside $445 to handle administration. You've created a a a cultural council project to support 350
>> 1780 780. Right. >> You have supported in full >> four programs that are Yes. Kingston base, two of which are >> funding things at your regional school.
So you're hitting those students in that age population. One of which is the arts festival that you're kind of reviving for based upon what I >> bother. That's my boyfriend.
>> And he got my number the other day. and and you have also supported the adult program that the library >> runs on an annual basis, >> right? >> You have also now added a multifamily performance center through the library,
but that will be held at the senior center. So, a large crowd, right? and you brought a single performer >> into the church for a community-based music thing that >> Willie Elton probably hits your
>> 30. I might want to come to Willie. I like Willy Nelson. >> Then you have five programs that you have eliminated due to location and support. All right. And some of them are with
location because they didn't have one. We have to state that in >> No, I'm just doing that for the purpose of the summary because in a few minutes we're going to make a motion. >> All right. So, we're comfortable with that everyone. >> No more discussion on that. And as we just went through,
we've taken fuller crafts, eliminated one of the two programs and funded one. >> North River, we've funded not full but at 750. Pinewoods not full but at 550. the fil Monica not full but at 750 best
practice at 200 >> that because that opens it up to the artists themselves and nonprofits who support culture. So it's something that >> we may want to look at advertising out >> to our community so people understand that that's an option.
>> Um so Homestead not in full but at 4:30 and one of the issues on that was that they do request funding from other attendees. All right. Um, the Y atore Southshore on, excuse me, fully funded
at 500. >> Uh, Southshore Y at 300. >> The Southshore YMCA at 750. >> Correct. >> And the Broad Broad Cove Coral at 500.
>> All right. So it gives us 12,650 which was the exact same amount that we were supposed to expend. So I'm going to ask if there's no additional discussion or a motion. I move that we
utilize this spreadsheet and um vote in favor of the expenditure of 12, >> 650 >> 650 >> as allocated >> as allocated. >> So do we have a second? Second.
>> All right. So now any discussion? >> Nope. >> Good job. >> Now Oh, we have to vote. So you start. >> Paul Fay, yes. >> Fe. Yes. >> Yes. >> Chris Morano. Yes. >> Susan Sherman. >> Yes.
>> Okay. So we're two two meetings. You gone through it. I think you got some good analysis on it. Now, I'm going to say that first. Those of you who are the co-chairs, there's still work for you to do. >> Yeah, I wish you was gonna say this. >> Sorry.
>> Okay. >> And is what we bought into >> stepping out of my role as a committee member, I will provide training for you on this. All right. >> For the rest of us, >> we don't have >> we don't need to be trained. And also
for the rest of us if when we go through this because the process the co-chairs are going to go through is they are going to inform those who >> those five people or the six people whatever that was my number six those
six people you're going to notify them that they have not been elected from the Kingston community that >> for funding for funding and you're going to do it through the online application >> they have there are six that have not been accepted. >> Yes,
>> those are these five >> and the one on the >> correct. All right. Okay. Going to inform them that those specific grants have not been accepted. >> All right. And I'm going to do this or we're going to do this on the online application.
>> Online application. You're going to be trained to the right and say this is how you fill this out. All right. So you are going to be trained on that. Those letters are going to go out to those entities >> and they have
>> and they have 15 days >> to respond >> to respond and when they respond they would be responding to mass cultural indicating to mass cultural that they're not comfortable with your decision. Mass cultural then makes the decision. Okay.
>> All right. Um and assuming that mass cultural doesn't come back and say you need to rework it, we basically are at the point that we will have done our job as the selection review process. Now
there's still a job for the committee because we have the bigger council committee project that we have to work on defining and pushing out. I I think we have a aspect on that. the 1700
1700. Okay. But who tells these people that we have >> you have to wait until the >> they have to 15 days. >> Exactly. So after that 15 days if we hear from nobody >> if nobody sent to mask then we can go
then then we get the opportunity through. Mass cultural usually likes you to wait a certain amount of time. So that >> so the faster we get this out the faster we can complete this complete. >> Could I say I would be glad to work with
you on these six people. Um how would you like to do that? >> You can say that now would you like to do so learn the two of you want to learn? We want to learn together. We don't want >> you want a cough drop.
>> I've had a cough drop. I've had my >> I've had it all. Doesn't matter. >> Could be the dryness in this room. >> No, I have an issue. I I went to the doctor yesterday, but >> All right. So, yes, we have to educate you to press the button and send that
on. So, here's the situation. We have what? We have all of next week where we could pick a day that the three of us are available and I can educate you. Would you mind coming to my home? Is that okay? >> I think you have to do it here. Help me.
No, >> no, it's a trade. No, I'm just I'm just I'm not playing committee member at all. I'm not playing. >> I don't care. We We have made our decisions. I'm just showing you how to execute the decision. >> I'm sure there will be coffee available
or tea if you'd like. >> In that I'm making I've been making plans for next week. Tuesday is going to be a nice day. Thursday and uh Wednesday and Thursday are going to be awful. >> Nice day like weatherwise or >> Yes. Yeah. >> Oh, for driving.
>> For driving. I was just thinking of >> All right. >> As long as it's during the day cuz we have a busy. >> All right. >> Would have to be I have evening commission. >> So, is Tuesday? >> Tuesday. >> Tuesday is not >> Tuesday afternoon would only work for me. What's the other day?
>> I could do afternoon. I have an appointment on the Cape. I I have to go to the Cape today at quart 10. >> I have to go to 12. So, Monday, >> Monday, >> any other day. I'm okay. >> Monday is fine. Monday, >> I'll work it. Monday's Hanukkah, but it
doesn't impact me. And I don't think they do anything. >> I'll light a candle. >> Monday the 50th. >> Work for you. >> Monday at my house at what time? >> 10 o'clock. Would work for me. 10 o'clock.
>> You don't have anything you can sleep. I can sleep. >> Sounds good. Training. Paula and Diane, you've been a wealth of And Karina, you've been a wealth of information. I mean, I I know that >> it was good that Karina was able to help.
>> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Now, we will probably need to >> have you on the committee. >> All right. >> But that'll be after the first. >> That's correct. It will actually be after because
>> the fly back I I don't know. 58 because we we're going to be away for a period of time. >> I hope it's some place warm and warm to Oklahoma. >> So they respond to mass cultural then mass cultural response to >> Yeah. >> So and then and then if in fact that's
the issue then we would meet we would reconsider and maybe have to rework some of the numbers or maybe we can reconsider and decide not to do it as well. >> They usually tell you >> I know. So anyway, but then >> Well, they do. So then you shave. So if
one person reconsides and they say you have to give them at least $150, you've shaved, >> right? >> $25 off everyone. >> Yeah. >> But I mean, we've never had that happen. >> You haven't? >> No, we've never had that happen. >> And I think if she doesn't think Middle
had it, >> right? And if if ongoing we have we put back on the website what our um requirements are having a venue that >> guidelines we need to that's an we do need to do that because that that makes it a lot easier.
>> So I I don't know in all the information that you've gotten from Karen Green in the past if she has because we went over that. I don't have a copy of what we said our guidelines were. Um, I have an email from Karen that I'm thinking is
pretty detailed. May I send it to you and you can uh kind of >> organize on the guidelines? >> In actuality, you don't need to establish them until next year, >> but it might have a if you could take that on, I'd appreciate that.
>> And at some point before that, supposedly is supposed to survey what the community feels there. That's one of the processes that they do ask that you consider doing but so that's going to um next year >> till next year. Okay. But don't worry
about next year until >> it's just your community on that not going around the world. >> But that now let me ask you this. Are you staying Are you two staying with us next year? >> I my goal. >> No. >> All right. My goal is to
have this group more >> need to get more people. >> Have this group first get through this. >> Secondly, do the clean out so that we really know what's out there that people
haven't sent in reports. Get all of this out there. Start advertising the good that you've done this year by what you funded. So that will be your first >> probably meeting. >> You're not answering me. >> Medium. All right. Let me just take you
through this and and through this process that you start finding new people and then come next July, I promise I will come back and I will help you through that startup. But I will
help you through that setup with the host that you have enough people sitting at this table that I don't have to sit there at this in this room. >> You may not have to do that. >> We have to do that. >> Yeah. And it does mean that and I will come back to some of your initial
processing through but more as the trainer. >> Okay. You know now because you people do >> the town did appoint Paul is appointed through >> to June of 27 to June of 28. >> So we are still technically on the
committee but we will potentially build yourself when you build yourself will reserve. >> Okay. >> So we should >> could we go into the town now and start asking for more people to get involved? They've they've said it at the
selectman's meeting. I don't know how many times. >> Well, also >> I'm a little forceful. >> Well, you that doesn't make a difference. I mean, you you know I mean they've also I've gone to the library and I spoke to the director um to see I
spoke to the children's librarian. >> I you know >> the new director are you talking? >> No, the gentleman John. >> Yeah. you know, because they've gotten some funds from us before and I told them it might be in jeopardy because we might not have a committee and we'll lose the money.
>> So, that was very close. That's why I think Chris and I got on it. >> Absolutely. Because >> I I feel it would be ashamed to not so >> Well, that's how we commit. >> It's a threeyear commitment. >> I don't know why, but they were
>> So, this is what you phone a friend. Phone a friend. >> Phone a friend. But yeah, >> I'm gonna I mean, I phoned friends, I phone neighbors, but we, you know, new people are moving into town, people are moving out, some people might not be aware of it. So, that sort of thing. >> So, when when you do the official
announcement and you will publicize it and it will be in whatever your local paper is, even though it's not a local paper, it will be on your social media site if the town has one. >> Right. >> Uh, right. I don't know if you cable TV if it runsformational
things there. You'll put it all on there and on that document you'll start soliciting to people interested in next year. I would not solicit until we get to that point. This one has finished >> because we want to make sure
>> you don't want to confuse the issue. >> Well, that and it'll be in for next year, right? >> Yeah. Yeah, the local scene is a great idea. We should do that. One of us should >> you can go on and you can talk and they video you and you can explain cultural
counsel and >> and at this point the issue is if you get somebody that comes and and they appoint them >> and they're now on the council at this point and if per chance somebody rejects
and mass bill says you have to give them 250. You're going to be sitting here every single >> that's conceptually you have >> no I I think it's been very very smooth with the fact that you people have history
>> so I'm I'm delighted >> we we haven't done that yet we identified training is going to happen >> we're going to say goodbye to the the six and we're going to hopefully assume that nothing comes back to reassess and
We probably will have a meeting at the end because again another meeting just to go through that process. >> We don't we're going to adjourn until a future meeting not to be identified at this point. >> It would it would be redundant I believe to vote on those six people that we we
will be sending a letter to through the mass culture. >> We don't have >> we did that. We did that because we've already took Okay, that's what I thought it was. So, we're going to make the motion that I >> I make a motion that we adjourn the meeting.
>> Second. I second. >> All in favor? I >> And we actually have to do it as a name vote. >> Yes. >> Milican. Yes. >> Chris Morana. Yes. >> Susan Sherman. Yes. Thank you all.