Good morning. This is the uh October 14th, 2025 meeting of the recycling committee. Recycling committee members present in the room are >> David Okonnell, >> Vanessa Briade, >> and Jean Landis Noman. and online. We're
fortunate to have our uh mass ma uh Mac M um Todd Cap. Welcome, Todd. >> Thank you. >> Always glad to have you. All right. Um this meeting is being recorded by the local scene. Anyone intending to make an
audio or video recording of this meeting should notify the chair at this time. Not seeing anyone in the room or online, so we'll proceed. Um, first up is approve our minutes from May 13th and September 16th. Did we get the me?
>> No, I didn't do September. >> So, we're do the May 13th. >> Um, do I have a motion? >> I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. >> Okay. And I'll second that since Vanessa wrote them. Right.
>> At the front. >> Did I write them or did you write them? What are we talking about? May. I think May I came late and you were going to send me >> Oh crap. I think we're complete. Okay,
I think we're okay. I'm going to second what what we have. >> So, any discussion? Okay, let's vote. David >> I >> Vanessa >> I and Jean I30. >> Okay.
We do not have uh Sean with us this morning to talk to us about batteries and light bulbs and antifreeze. did send him an email um asking if we did have a a decision
back from the vendor as to whether or not we're going to include all types of batteries and light bulbs. So, still waiting for a response on that. >> Yeah, I think the issue with that was that they probably cut them. We weren't sure what the cost would be to take them.
>> Right. Right. And so that it was I mean we can say to everybody we take them but then we need to really find out if it's financially >> right >> worthwhile. >> Yeah. And is that your understanding Todd? Is that um the vendor we're using does charge additional for all the uh
all the batteries and all the light bulbs >> uh for what? >> Right now we're just having people recycle uh the new light bulbs and um
the lithium batteries and we've we explained to us that our vendor will also take regular batteries and light bulbs. >> Yeah. >> And Sean was supposed to look into that to see if there if there was an additional charge for that.
>> Oh, and there is. >> I don't know. >> We're waiting to hear from him. >> Oh, I >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm not sure. That's good question. >> I'll follow up with Sean. Okay. Okay. Uh, approve bills, finances. We
don't have any bills to approve that I know of. Um, I did pay Jessica. Her charge was $87.50. And I did pay Black Earth. I reduced
their bill from 3.44 44 to 301 to account for the two bins they did not take. Since um we put the signs on the bins, there haven't been any refusals by Black Earth. Okay, so we're all right
there. Um if you don't mind, can we just jump ahead since we're talking about Black Earth? I did cancel the pumpkin smash >> because it was I thought it was a little expensive. >> It is expensive and it's you know the
fact that we've never done it before and we put the you know why pay for something you just >> I think it's something we could easily do ourselves. >> I mean it's a basketball net, >> right? >> So I think we could do that. the extension of their contract. Their
contract prints out either the end of this month or I think it's the end of this month. Um before Keith left, I sent him an email asking if there was any formal action we needed to take to extend it.
He left without responding. So >> isn't don't we have an automatic renewal within >> We can renew. I just wanted to be sure I was using the right format to to advise them that we'd like to renew. Um, as it
is, you know, I'll try and see if the current uh acting temporary administrator can um advise me. Um, and otherwise I'll just send them an email saying that we'd like to uh
exercise our option to extend it for one more year. Then that's the third year. So then this time next year, we'll be negotiating a new contract. So I'd like to start that process probably a couple months ahead of time so we can look at
it. And Todd, here's where you might be helpful to us. Is are there other towns in your area that have contracts with Black Earth for transfer station pickup? >> Do you have a found?
>> No, that's not mine. Mine stops at the bridges. >> All right. Um because what I'd like to do is just take a look at what other towns contracts look like. >> Yeah. I don't think >> there's none other I know Kingston is I mean uh Plymouth is trying to get theirs
up and running. >> Okay. >> But no one else is doing it. >> Okay. Because I I took um I'm trying to think where I got the um sample that I used.
That seemed a little convoluted to me. um their attorney and our attorney signed off on it, but I just wanted to see if there was a more concise format available. Um and maybe that's something I could
ask our our town council because they made the other communities. >> Okay. Good morning, Jean. Welcome. >> Hello, Dad. White. >> All right. So, um, our member Gan White
has just joined the meeting. Okay. So, Black Earth. So, what I'd like to do is maybe put that on the agenda starting in um August for us to take a look at the contract, see if there's any modifications because
it has to go through our town council has to go through their council um before either can sign off on it and the town administrator has to co-sign that. Okay. So, maybe even July. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So start the line. >> Okay. Okay. So, Jean has left the meeting temporarily. He'll be right back. Um, okay. So, I think that's everything with
Black Earth right now. things and I want to thank you the the area the um where we have huh >> no you know what I mean all the work that you did there >> on the corral
>> yeah it's really good >> yeah it looks really really well >> I got one more I'll get the steak thing that I've got to put up but I haven't I don't I haven't had the laminated yet >> okay >> need to get two of those turned Okay. You have one for each. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Then the stuff. >> Okay. So, the only thing left for there is for me to get um get the um plastic box to put these in. >> Are you going to fold them or is it is
that >> No, no, it's it's big enough to hold them. It is. >> Yeah. Yeah. I've got small one I got some small ones for our pamphlets, but I also >> Oh, okay. I also got a couple of these bigger ones.
>> No, I bought both sizes. So, um, >> and they have a lid on them. So, that >> they do. >> Yeah. Yeah. I think it's great. It will be really nice to have additional information. >> Yeah. >> You might want to review that too a little bit because um I don't know how much it mentions buckets or how people
can transport or do stuff, but if people feel like they're I don't have a bucket so I can't do it. It's kind of silly. It says residents should use home collection buckets with lids to store and transport organic material. Um, and then talks about the bags used
to line must be this BPI certified compostable. Um, and tells them which bags are not acceptable. >> Yeah. >> But that's all it says about the collection. just says, you know, use a
collection bucket with lid. Did you think we should modify that? >> No, I haven't read it through for a long time, but I felt like a lot of people came to me at the Aggie Fair saying, "But I don't have a container." I'm like, "Oh, look at I use orange juice containers and even stick it in my
container because I don't want to wash the container all the time." And so, >> and I started doing yogurt containers, except then I couldn't in good faith throw them in the compactor. >> Right. >> So, when I did the orange juice container, I thought, "Okay, don't go >> trash away."
>> Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I um Yeah, >> weird things we sort of tie ourselves to. Well, I mentioned here too that some residents prefer to freeze the material during the week, >> you know, so it kind of gives them some options.
>> Yeah. And but the the other part that's weird is the uncertainty of these compostable bags. >> Yeah. >> Like what's this, you know, like if I put that under the s, you know, people don't do it that way, but when I want to put something in it and I just think, well, now I have to get rid of it because it's starting to compost already.
>> Yeah. it. I'm telling you, it doesn't take Art and I very long to fill up. And I have the bigger bucket because I started out with the small one thinking, "Oh, you know, it's just two of us." I'm filling that bucket up every week. It's amazing how much compostable
material we have. Great. So, again, thank you so much for all the work you did on the corral. It looks lovely. And Jean, I know you helped with that. Um, great effort, great team effort to get that done. Um,
and hopefully it'll it'll continue to run smoothly as it has the last couple of weeks. People whoever put the material in there may have not, >> you know, realized >> realized. Yeah. >> Well, it's hard too because then I was sort of going through bags to the fair
and com made of composted material. >> I know. >> Oh, and it says compost on the bag. Yeah, but that's not the direction it has to go. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's very specific what what has to be done. And it is a little confusing
because it is compostable some places but not everywhere. You know, when it says on that compostable. >> Well, no. What they're saying is it's made of compostable composted material. The >> how do they say it? >> I don't know. I should have one with me and then I could read it to you. there
there's an ambiguity in what direction it goes. >> Okay, >> as we know recycling is um a revolving process because it all depends on
who the vendor ultimate vendors are and what they'll take and what they won't take. and the sorting um area. This sorting company has to has to just pull out the material that they
know they can sell to the to the um vendor that's going to rem re remmanufacture it. And I don't know if I sent it to you yet or not, but um I I read an article recently and it was
about uh how they're using AI sortters at the at the nerfs um to you know handle all the material and I forget how how many pieces of material
could handle every minute but it was amazing. I mean it and what it does is it eliminates that messy work for humans but it eliminates a human work position. But you know if it can do
it a lot faster and a lot more accurately without humans having to deal with trash, maybe that's the way to go. But I forget how much the thing cost. I think it said it was going to pay for itself within a year.
Did I I guess I haven't sent that article to you yet, but I I thought it was very interesting. Todd, are you have you um heard about um using the AI robot to sort Yeah. Anybody using one of
those? >> Not around here. It's too expensive. >> Yeah. But it's that >> I think the close the clo the closest we have is Connecticut and they're using it for that one bag or one truck system with the multiple bags. So, it's basically just picking up the bags and
sorting the bags. But mo most most of the AI right now in the country is used for construction and demolition sorting. >> It's easier to do that at this point, but you know, it's it's if prices drop on that stuff, you'll probably see more of it, but it it's none of the MURFs we
have here in the state have that. So, >> Okay. All right. Well, I will get that article out to everybody so you can take a look at it. I just thought it was pretty pretty interesting. You know, I'm I am a skeptic, I guess, um, on using AI
to replace humans, but there I think there's some industries where it makes sense, and this might be one of them, you know. >> It absolutely works, though. It definitely works for for the solation recycling. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good. All right. Um,
so we don't So, we're on to the swap shop. Um, did we get those other two shelving units back in before the rain came? Okay, thank you. Um, as you know, Jean's been doing a lot of work over there at the swap shop trying to get it ready.
Um, he and I had a discussion at the swap shop. Uh, was last week or the week before, whatever. Um, about because Jean was uh continuing to put up the peg board. Is that what it's called? and um
and I asked him to hold off on putting up any more until we um came up with our final floor plan for the shelving because um and I what I thought we should do is take a look um just to remind ourselves
as to what materials are going to be going into the swamp shop. >> All those papers, >> huh? >> I said, "Oh, I have all those. I printed those out. >> You print them out?" Okay. But I'm not. >> The items we've said we're going to
accept are books, CDs and DVDs, small children's toys, dishes and glassear, electrical kitchen appliances, small games, kitchen wear, paintings and
picture frames that are small, pots and pans, puzzles, vases and video games. Um, so out of those I'm not sure other than paintings and picture frames we're going
to have much to use on the peg boards. Were you thinking of something else, Jean, when you put those up? >> Yes. >> What were you thinking of >> with all the shelves we have? If you add up the square footage, it's 3,173
square feet from Shelby. >> Okay, let's let me go back to the question I asked you. >> What items were you thinking would go on the pegboards? What what would we hang on the walls? >> Well, that company I showed you, they
have all kinds of things. They have peg peg things. Some of them are boxes. You can get all kinds of different size boxes. So, loose things like nails, screws. >> We're not going to accept that.
>> Well, can I just finish this thought? >> Sure. So, the shelving will give us 3,178 square ft of space for the pegboard all
around. That gives us 5,957 square ft. So, total it'll be 9,130 square ft of usable area to put stuff. >> Okay. But again, Jean, you have to look at the type of stuff that we're going to accept.
And it doesn't really lend itself to a lot of pegboard. That's what I'm saying. >> You can put You're >> essentially talking about putting using pegboard to put shelves up. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can put shelves. >> What? But why why not put shelves
against the wall, joining the the the shelving that's in there that's that's already been made? That doesn't make any sense. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of money. So what I did was put 36 in parameter
around pegboard around the entire diameter. >> You mean you're pulling you're pulling the shelving away from the walls? >> Yes. >> So So there'd be wheelchair access space
then the shelves. So I put one shelf and then the other shelf. So they're only 16 in wide and you could access them from both sides. So when people come in, they have multiple paths that they can go
down and they can see everything laid out so you can go where you want. And the way I have them configured it, I have two of the longest shelves together
by the um by the desk and then I have on the end. And the way the way I laid it out, it's kind of like a maze, but there's multiple ways. There's different access. So, it's not like people are
coming in and waiting in line to get to one thing or another. So the the objective is it's a relatively small space and by doing this it would
utilize most of the space. So it would use it would give us more storage space than the shelves alone. And I'm trying to step on anybody's feet, but this is my gig. I went to
trade school for carpentry. I worked for years doing framing and that's my thing is looking at something and coming up with ways to improve it. So,
>> and I wish you would look at it before you make a decision. >> It's all yours. I'm not I don't care what you do. >> Well, I do. I know you do. Well, I'm not I'm not trying to, you know, anger anybody. This isn't about me
getting my way. It's about optimizing the opportunity. So, I'm sorry. >> Hey, you know what? If it's a good idea, Lyn, go for it. I said, I'm not, you know, I'm hands off. >> Okay. I mean, you can do what whatever
you want. >> I I'm just telling you how I feel. If you want to do it, you can go ahead and do it. That need to say about >> Well, that's that's certainly one option that we could look at. Um the other >> maybe after the meeting we could go and
look and just so at least you know what I'm talking about. I'm not good at explaining it. It's not not my forte. >> I know. Um Okay. So, what
another option um I think would be a setup similar to what we had at the other swap shop. You were both in there. We were all in there. So, we know what it looked like. And that middle room is really,
you know, the basis for what I was thinking we could do. Putting um shelving. How can I say this um perpendicular to the to the front door.
So in other words, there would be shelving against the wall on either side, you know, as you come in the door be on either side and then there would be two more uh in the middle. Um and then um across the back and there should
be adequate room for the 3 ft between that because we're really only one two three we're using uh 9 ft for the aisle space. Um and then we've got one two three four units of shelving. You said
they're how wide? >> Uh they're all 16 in wide. >> 16 in. Okay. 36 16 36 16 36
1 2 3 4 They're various lengths, too. >> Yeah, we do have a couple different lengths. So what what I did was so that we could use them all because I know there was some concern that we wouldn't have the
room to use them all. So the way I configured them is we can use them all. You like there's there's short ones and then there's medium and then long. Did you say you have a drawing of what
we were thinking about? >> I I couldn't print my computer this morning. Okay. >> That's why I was late because I didn't I don't like to give up. >> All right. >> So, there's two shells that are 96 in
long. There's four shelves that are 69 in long and there's four shelves that are 32 in long. >> David, do you remember what the um original layout was? I know
you and your son did that. Well, they were they were the shelves basically were they were just on one side in the in the biggest space in the trail >> in the middle room.
>> Yeah. And they were perpendicular to >> the outside wall face wall. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I mean I don't you know I I have to >> you put it like an E. >> Yeah. That's really, you know, and with more than adequate space in between the
shelves. Um, >> yeah, there wasn't enough space to put wheelchairs in, but it was certainly enough space to walk in there and comfortably turn around. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I think we need to take that into account this time. >> Um, because
the other one had stairs and everything. So, >> yeah. I mean, I didn't, you know, what Jean's saying, I didn't appreciate, I knew that there were shorter ones. I didn't appreciate there were so many different lengths. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Well, >> this is a rough draft. >> Okay. >> So,
this was just when I was taking the measurements. So, >> 166 is the aisle space all around. >> Okay. So, you you were budding two of them. Yes. Okay. I see. >> Because 16 in, you can easily reach in
and grab any thing on that shelf. And if you see something on the other side and just walk around and grab it >> and and then >> Well, that that gives you the idea. And then I was going to put like two shelves
that go from here down that way. The longer ones, >> the longer size ones. And that would still give enough space. And then I was going to put the short ones this way. So
there's wheelchair access all around between all the shelves on this side and on this side. So completely wheelchair and the having the pegboard up reflects
light. So I've been I got like a little lantern thing in there. battery powered >> lint. >> So I can see but um >> okay >> I think once we get operating we're going to edit. So I think simple is
better and then we figure out what works and what doesn't work. >> Okay. >> So initially because right now um Jean has put a peg board uh on the front wall and partial on each side. he has enough pegboard to
put it all around. And I think at this point we need to decide whether or not to have him continue putting that up if we're not going to use um a configuration where we have things hanging from the walls and um if we have
things hanging from the walls that reduces the aisle space. So we have to be cognizant of that. Um, but honestly, the reason I wanted to go over our acceptable items list is that I'm not seeing a lot that lends itself to being
hung other than pictures uh and picture frames. Um, the rest of it pretty much has to go on shelves. Um, I I did find a bookcase at a yard sale
in the neighborhood. Uh it's not big, but it would hold I don't know 100 books anyway. So that's >> substantial. >> Yeah. I mean they not not really big books but you know standardized books. Um
so I I am a little concerned about using the pegboard if we're not, you know, putting it up if we're not really going to use it. I think I understand what you're saying about the light. Um, and that is going to be an issue. Um, and
that's why we have the double wide doors. Um, that's why we had the lighting, >> you know, the windows put up top. And if it's only from 9 to 3, generally, I
think there's going to be enough to lighting. I mean, just natural light. >> Yeah. Um, the one thing that I know Plymouth um said they had was uh something to test out appliances and
that they got it through a a grant. So I asked Todd, "What grant was it?" And he says it's just the RDP funds. Um, so we could certainly get something like that. >> That that would be completely useful. >> I think it would be. Yeah. Because that way you don't you know
>> it's easy to say well this works and maybe well intended but if it you know >> this way it can be plugged in. >> Right. Right. >> So I found a Blue Eddie solar charger and it was like 275
>> on Prime Day um Amazon Prime Day. You see that's gone by. But um Black Friday, I imagine they'll have the same and there's there's two models that I
would consider. I'm not prepared to explain it, but there there's one that's like under 200 or around 200 and there's another one that's like like around 300. And that
one is big enough to run a 5,000 to 9,000 BTU air conditioner. >> And they have heat pumps. They have heat pumps that heat and cool building that size. And they're relatively inexpensive.
So I that I'm thinking that's a future thing if we want to do that to expand the time, >> but it it would help keep people comfortable. And as I've been working there, a lot of people come up and ask,
you know, when's it open? Is it open yet? So, I started a little signup sheet. So, I have six potential volunteers and I just explained that we would have an online scheduling
application. So, you could go online, pick when you want. >> Yeah, we talked about that before. The sign up genius genius. Yeah. And I said, "If we don't have volunteers, um, then it won't be open." Right?
>> And I said, "The last time people the committee was doing all the work that when no one was there, they were bringing in junk that we didn't want." >> And u, >> yeah, so pretty much what we've been talking about here. Okay.
>> All right. So, um, what I think I need to do is, um, create a sign for the front door for right now because I do think now that we have the sign up, people are going, "Okay, we got a swap truck going here." So, I wanted to put
up a sign saying that not open yet. We expect to be opening in the spring if we have sufficient volunteers. If you're interested in volunteering, contact the selectman's office because >> why don't we just use the swap shop
email? >> Well, because all the paperwork they have to do is through the selectman's office, >> right? But if they got in touch with the Kingston swap shop and kind of do some vetting if they have questions before like because I feel like that it's a big
commitment to like div, all the forms that they want you to do. Mhm. >> If I were interested, I wouldn't want to talk to someone before I went to because the Luckman's office isn't necessarily in a position to tell you what's, you know, like, oh yeah, >> you know, what would they be doing?
>> Yeah. Yeah. To really vet it all. They're just going to go in and get a Corey. >> Remember, they they're requiring >> I know they have to do that stuff, but I'm just saying if we put up there, >> send an email to King Sup Shop at this address. Okay. >> I'll look at them and say, "Yes, you have to go and get a party and all that stuff."
>> We had an email. >> We did. I sent you all in this morning too from that. >> Oh, you did? >> Okay. >> So, what I've been telling people is if you're interested, so we have a list of names of interested people. I don't you
want to give them much detail because if they're interested, we call them and they're still interested, then we can give them that information. So, by having them send an email now, you have the contact for people who want to do it. So, it makes a lot of sense
>> and that we can post out there because nobody >> I didn't get it yet. When did you send it? >> I sent it this morning. I don't I my computer was really slow. I was gone all weekend and >> sometimes wine doesn't come in right away.
Okay. So, so what do you guys think? Should should we have who who's going to keep checking this? >> I I can do that. I mean, anybody can, but I think have a designated person. >> Okay. because you had volunteered to pretty
much take on the >> the volunteer part of it. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I got it at um 8:46 this morning, >> but I sent it to your so many emails. I uh JLN 12. >> Is that what comes to your phone?
>> Yep. Yeah, that's my email. I get my email on here, too. So what I what I did I stopped put >> You have not >> I I stopped >> putting any panels up but what I did do
was put them on the floor and lean them against the wall so you can get the visual of what it would look like. >> Okay. >> The desk is installed. I put a vinyl tablecloth on it. >> It the desk is screwed to the wall.
Um, I was focusing on getting the windows done so they were waterproof and then the storm sealing. So, the windows are done. That whole front wall is insulated, pegboard, everything is set on that.
>> All right. Do you have receipts? >> Okay. And >> I did. That's all. >> Go back. I had something. >> I had some stuff in the pile to bring back the Lowe's, but I need that original
piece of paper. Um, is >> what the original piece of paper? >> It probably just says your first email from the swap shop. >> Which one? When when I made the receipts, >> it wasn't a long diet drive or anything.
>> There there was a regular size piece of paper in the back that it was printed out by Lowe's that had all stuff on it and has the account on it that >> I don't I don't know that I have that. Who did that come into? Did that come
into >> Did he give you receipts at the last meeting? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I don't think it had that sheet. >> Yeah. should have a digital version of it all too though. >> It has well it because it went to the town account
and I'm not sure if they used the town credit card or it was the facility manager's personal credit card because he couldn't get the other one to work or something. So, I need to I need that piece of paper
so they can credit it back to the right account. >> That's the one you're talking about? >> Yes. >> Can you make a copy of that for you? >> Yeah, that's the one that went through the town. Okay.
>> All right. So, what have we got here? Um. Huh. >> Generator gas. >> Run out of gas a couple of times. >> Okay. Wind molding. Prime trim board gas
for generator. Oh man. $15. Yeah. Okay. So, 4746. >> Okay. So, Jean Jean's uh submitting um receipts for $4746.
Uh we just need a vote on that. This was um gas for the generator, the window molding, the trim board for the window which I had authorized him to do.
>> Was that part? There was a big authorization part of it or these are >> I think we've exceeded that. The original was >> that's a concern too though that we're not even open yet and we don't we >> look look on that sheet there. I I was
under budget on what I was allocated. >> Okay. $52,363 cents. How much should we allocate? >> Is it 550? I think it was 550.
>> Okay. But now we have an additional 4746. So we are over the 600. And we've we've had a couple other authorizations too. I do have some of these I forgot. I don't feel like looking to >> Okay, I need you to bring those in.
>> There won't be a lot. >> Okay, but still. >> Yeah, I forgot them. >> Okay. Okay. And this is this is out of the >> You gave me 40. >> So, we owe you seven. >> Yeah. And the rest goes to you.
>> All right. So, is this the end or how much more do we think we have to do? >> That's all I got. Um, I'm done. >> Okay. But the shelves aren't in yet. I mean, I'm waiting to visualize. I don't do visualizing very well. I just want to
skate with all the shelves in figure out. >> They're in place. So, what I'm going to do is screw them to the floor and then brace them to the ceiling joist. So, they don't then >> So, you're not done. you still have more to do. So, you'll run the generator more because you need light and heat and
>> Well, first we have to decide on the floor plan. We haven't decided on the floor plan because some of the expense is for the pegboard that's still sitting there hasn't been installed. So, we have to decide, are we
going to go ahead and put pegboard around the whole exterior? >> I thought we were just insulating the front or something. >> We That was the original discussion. that that's what was done. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I didn't do the sides. >> Right. But we have to decide on the floor plan because if we're going to
have traffic going around the whole exterior of the of the uh building with the shelving in the middle, then I understand what you're saying about bracing them to the to the ceiling. I don't even know how we're going to do that. >> Yeah. It's very vated. It's nice.
>> Yeah, it is. Um >> Yeah. or are we going to just do an e con? >> Yeah. I think if you come in the door and then you're sort of faced with all these openings because the ego is like that. >> Yeah. >> Um it's invi I mean then even if you can't get into something you can at
least visually see things. >> Okay. >> And the light shines that direction. >> It does. It does. Um >> as opposed to being back lit on it. And I think again going back to the items
that we're accepting, do we really have call for a lot of pegboard? >> Well, certainly not on the back wall because that's where all the shelves are. If if we do the E configuration, if we do jeans configuration, the whole
building is has pegboard on the walls and people are circulating around the the um perimeter. >> But how does the desk work with that then? >> Because I mean if I was you to come and see the desk is on the right as soon as
you walk in the door. So the the desk is there and then there's a space and then there's two long shelves and that's why I I would invite you to
come and look at it and just see what my concept of. >> Okay. Yeah. Because I was in before but I didn't get any sense of that. That was a while ago. >> Well, the shelves were all over the place, you know, and >> there's a lot of junk in there, too. the jug all gone.
>> All my tools, well, all the all the school recycling stuff is gone. Um >> the the only thing that's left in there is my tools. I have a compressor, uh table saw, chop saw, jigsaw, all all
that stuff. So, I'm getting ready to take that home. Some of it won't fit because the generator is in the back of my car. It's too heavy to lift in and out. So, I just open the door in the pot and run the generator.
>> Okay. And today's Tuesday. It's raining still. There's a joke about a candle is a resource designed by committee. And I don't mean it as an
insult, but it's kind of like a point. This is my area of expertise. And if you guys want to do something different, you're welcome to do it.
I'm just trying to utilize all the space we have in the most efficient way. So, this was my plan and you get just come look at it. You don't like it and change it however you want. It's like no big
deal. Nothing is new down. I did put the two sheets on the sidewall because I had to frame it out when it came. didn't have studs in the area so that the pegboard in the front would have
something to rest so the end of it would be flopping around. So that's why I put those two up and if you don't like them you can unscrew them and take them down.
I tried to go through the holes, the existing holes wherever possible so it didn't ruin the sheets. So right now we have enough sheets to complete everything. So we don't need any more.
So, we're we we do we need to finalize this today or do you want to uh take an opportunity to go look at the swap shop? And >> you mean finalized relative to the pegboard >> to well to the pegboard and the floor
plan? They they're >> they're tied together, you know, really. So, I mean, we're not going to be opening till the spring, so we do have time, but I'd really like to get this put to bed before it gets too cold. I'd
like to kind of finish up so we're almost ready to open in the spring, not have a lot left over to do at that point. Um, and you're going to Are you going to try and resend that email? >> He got it. I don't know why you didn't get it.
>> Okay. Can you check and see if you got it or I don't know what you're using for email anymore. >> The dog had to go potty just as I was leaving. >> So I he I go he goes everywhere with me
and he does not like being left home and I had to squeeze out the door as all I grabbed was my coffee and my milk. So that I could get away with. But that doesn't surprise me. >> Be in a junk mail. >> Yeah, maybe.
>> Yeah, I don't I don't have a junk mail. >> Oh, because you're using that new format where it's other focused in other. I hate that. >> No, I just have an an inbox and everything goes to the inbox. Um >> I can resend it to you. >> Okay. If you would. So,
>> I'm accessing it on my laptop at home instead of putting it everywhere. But >> okay, just so I have the right um >> so if you want to give me that list, I'll reach out to those people with the email too. >> That's on the printer. So I I'll send it email.
>> Okay, good. Yeah, I'll reach out to them and the people I've reached out to already, but you know, to sort of give them some just welcome. Here's what's going on >> and uh here's what you need to do to pursue this.
It took me a little while like probably half dozen people were also interested but I didn't think to start a list until finally it dawned on me that I needed to have that because people were coming up. >> Okay, good. All right. Well, I'm glad
people are showing interest. Let's hope some of them follow through and do the whole, >> you know, and and um we can work on the signup genius over the over the winter. >> We don't have people can't get into that until they've already gone through the >> the whole process. Yeah.
>> Process. Yeah. >> So that's why I wouldn't publicize that >> until we've gotten them to go through the vetting to be eligible to sign up on it. >> Yeah. So u but to publish the >> email >> you know because somewhere I saw you had
my phone number and I thought yeah you know what I am I have it associated with some things I wish I hadn't and so okay >> you know unless it's around doctor appointment time or something I don't answer anything I don't know. >> Okay. All right. So u what's your
pleasure here everyone? Um >> I think simpler is better. I'm sorry but I just I feel like we're going to make changes any I mean maybe we won't. Maybe we get it right the first time, but I think just, you know, that we can see we don't need spotlights or whatever if you have to go all the way in and then come
around and look this way >> where there isn't really a lot of light at whatever's on the shelves. And I just I think simpler is better and I loved that e arrangement just because >> this was clean. >> Okay, David, do you have thoughts?
All right. Do we want to vote on it today or do we want to take a chance to go over and >> I could take a look at it, but I don't know what what that does in terms of buying us time or or not. >> I think in all fairness to Jean's proposal, I think we should take a a
look at it and see if we think that that would work for us um before he goes ahead and does any more work over there. Okay. >> I'll try and do that. make with you to go over to the meeting >> if we have time. Sure. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Um we don't have a whole lot more. I don't I don't think um this is this is really a big focus for us right now is this. Um Todd, you still there with us?
>> I'm still here. >> Okay. All right. Okay. So, um, the door lock pad, has that been installed? >> Yeah. >> Okay. But it's there. We We have it. Okay. So, it's up to me really to do the
sign on the outside. >> We put like a little sign on the big sign outside that says coming soon or coming in the April or something like that. >> Yeah, that's another expense. Um, we did
not vote on the 4746 even though we did all sign off on it. Um, do I have a motion? >> I'll make a motion >> to approve the 4746. >> I'll second. >> All right. Uh, vote David. >> Yes. >> Yes. abstain.
>> Well, you and I both have to vote or we don't have a majority. >> Okay. >> You vote on my portion. I'll vote on your portion. >> All right. I vote to give Jean for $40. >> And I vote to give Jean his $746. >> Do I have to put that in the notes? So,
just 40. Do I have to put all that? Um, probably because >> Yeah, because it's not It's 40 to to me and $746 to Jean. >> Okay. >> 40. How much? $40.70.
>> $40. Period. >> Uhhuh. Is you. >> Is me. >> Okay. >> And then $746. >> 46. Okay. >> Yeah. I I think we do need to have that designation. Okay. the Plymouth Swap Shop. Did I send
that to you? What? Um, >> yes. >> What they put out? >> Yeah, that be the poster. >> Um, >> this one. >> Yeah. Yeah, he posted it on Facebook, but you saw this, didn't you, Todd?
Yeah. What did you think? >> I thought it was great. Did you guys see the video? >> No. >> Yeah, the um local scene did a nice video about it. >> Oh, okay. He was also on WATD, right? >> I heard that he was going to be. I
didn't hear it. Or I might have heard a bit of it, but I was in the car, so I missed it most of it. It's a pretty good opening day from what I heard. >> Good. >> Yeah, something like 90 cars came through. >> Okay,
>> that's great. >> It literally filled up the shed. They've got another shed that was donated and they actually DPW authorized another shed, a new shed to purchase. Um, I have not been up there yet to see it. So, one of these days I'll have to
go up there and and check it out. But, um, apparently the flow, the traffic flow was great. Um, they collected a lot of really good stuff and, um, yeah, it was very, very successful. So, >> Okay. And that was just in three hours, right? >> Yeah.
>> Only open from 9 to 12. Okay. Yeah. >> Um, and then they have a a QR code here on that people can use to figure out what is and isn't acceptable. Um, >> that's good because it's dynamic that way. >> Yeah. Yeah. Anybody know how to create
one? >> Okay. All right. Good. Okay. So, yeah, it was a pretty pretty uh good poster. It was on Facebook. That's where I saw it. Oh, so that's an idea for us.
>> 33 Hedges Pond. Where is that, Todd? >> That's on Beaver Beaver Dam. No, where is it? >> No, that's it's this. It's the old South transfer station down there. Old exit to >> So, Cedarville. >> Yeah, Cedarville.
>> But that's not their transfer station now. I thought the only one they had was Beaver Dam. Oh, they used to have three, but they closed two down. That's when they went curbside and then I was part of the team that helped save the last one. So, >> okay. >> No, this is this is the old site, >> but it's not colllocated with their
current transfer station, right? >> No, no, no, no. That current transfer station's up at Pine like the Pine Hills exit. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, this is separate. >> Yeah. >> Well, let's let's hope the interest continues for them. I think we'll we'll get a lot of interest once ours is open
again. Um, what do they have to do? They have to have a recycling sticker to go in or do they what do they have to do? Anything? >> Not right now. You just have to be a resident of Plymouth. >> Okay. All right. Yeah, because I mean ours is colllocated, so they obviously have to have a sticker to come in onto
the property. All right. Lovely. Lovely. Very nice. Okay. Um, I did send you a couple alter alternate composting methods. is Bokashi and the food cyclinger and you can read for yourself the pros and cons on that
one. Uh we already done the organic corral. Uh Vanessa something about re oh recycling costs. You had sent something to um Claire
at um Claire. Yeah. Yeah. because I was doing a little bit of leg work before the Aggie fair because I wanted to be able to say, >> "Look at how great this is." >> And as I went through it with Lynn, >> it was not so great
>> and then I was really sad. So, but so, you know, just to flush it out more, but seemed like, you know, we spent I don't have the numbers on me. Well, I do somewhere because I have my notes from Lynn, but >> Oh, the not Yeah, that was from Claire, but my notes from Lynn was
>> that with Lynn. You were talking about where did that go? Cass was with $85 a >> right >> and co-mingle was like 106 >> and I just thought
you know Chris is up there telling everybody throw it in the compactor. What what's wrong with this number? And so I didn't really get I mean a ton of coingle is a lot of volume compared to a ton of theme master.
>> So there's a you know sort of break even there but still was >> Yeah. So I think in that email Claire said that she was going to >> look into our contract. >> Yeah. Talk with Sean about the contract we currently have on co-mingle. Um Oops.
It's on there. Sorry. Wait, how long? Is he gone or didn't come in? >> Hey, Em. He's coming in. >> He probably got to walk away. There he is. >> Sorry about that. >> Hi, Albert. >> Hi.
>> Sorry. I hope you weren't waiting too long. >> No, not that long. >> Okay. All right. We're um we're just finishing up on the Plymouth Swap Shop. And um >> congratulations to you guys. You're doing really well. >> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Thank you. And we're moving on to our recycling costs here in Kingston and the fact that it looks like we may be able to get a um a cheaper uh some cheaper contracts for
some of our recycling. So Claire was going to talk with Sean um our temporary superintendent streets and parks about the contracts that we have. So I do paid for anything. >> Huh? >> We get paid for cardboard.
>> We get paid for cardboard. We get paid for metal I believe. >> Yeah. Not only get rid of that. >> Is there anything else we get paid for that we get? >> Well, the fabric we do out. Um >> but no paper. We don't get paint. >> No, we pay for paper.
>> Yeah. It's so like it fluctuates with the market, you know, depends on what like we were talking about before what the final you remanufactured is doing, you know, what materials they
need uh to produce products. >> Hey, Jean. >> Yes. Which Jean? >> Uh you. >> Oh, okay. >> I always forget there's two of you. >> Yeah. >> Really hard >> and we're sitting side by side today. It's like then when there's more than
one Todd and I keep looking around like where's the other Todd? >> So rare, you know, it doesn't happen. >> Um, now I was going to tell you, um, it's going to be very difficult to get costs lower than what you have right now.
>> Okay. >> The latest numbers that I have are everything's gone up substantially. Not a little, but a lot. So, >> meaning to dispose of this of the recycled material >> uh and the trash. So, the trash. Yeah.
>> When your when your contract with seam mass is up, you're not going to be paying anywhere close to 85. It's going to be upwards of 108 to 115, >> right? >> Um the recycling costs have gone up substantially to the point where I was pretty shocked. And it's pretty hard to
shock me. Um but those were closer to 150 to 180 a ton. So, um I know you guys separate a lot of your material, which might help a little, but I I wouldn't get your hopes up on saving money or making money. So, I mean, obviously the
cardboard you separate that's going to have a fluctuating value. Um >> and the metal >> separator glass, too. Glass >> and glass is cheaper. It's $40 a ton >> as opposed to 80 and it's heavy. So,
pull it out of the seam mass is good. >> Yeah. Yeah, if you can get it out of the trash compactors, you're going to save some some really good money. But the problem is not everyone's going to separate their glass. A majority won't. >> So, and that won't happen. That won't happen that won't happen until
either the town steps in and makes an ordinance or and and you guys might be able to do it. I don't know. Or you go pay as you throw. Those those those are the two factors that you're going to have to look at pretty and I know Gene you and I have had numerous conversations about this so I'm not expecting to talk about it today but um
those are really the two options that you have to to cut those costs because they are going to go up. So >> I think we left um pay as you throw on the table until we get a permanent town administrator and >> Yep. That was our last conversation. >> His thoughts are so it's still it's
still there for us as a future project. Um, it's the timing of it right now. So, >> the timing is gonna be the timing is gonna be when you get your increase. >> Yeah, >> that's gonna be the perfect time because it's going to be if I was shocked, you guys will be shocked. So,
>> I'm surprised that our our glass uh percentage is so much lower than some of the other towns because >> that trailer's pretty full. >> That trailer gets full very quickly. I see a lot of uh wine bottles. Yeah.
>> Uh I think we do our fair share in trying to fill that up. Um so I am I am a bit surprised that's the percentage of glass for us. H okay. Well >> I have one comment on the coingle. >> Sure.
>> Even though we have to pay to get rid of it. >> It takes volume out of the trash. So >> yeah, fewer trips is what you're saying. >> Yeah. es easily. But >> yeah, it crashes easily, I guess.
>> I think and it it doesn't Yeah. >> Well, the rim is at one end and it has a certain amount of pressure. >> Mhm. >> It doesn't mean it crushes everything at the other end, right? It's not like a consistent something failing.
>> Yeah. So the more volume we keep out of the trash, the more room there is to >> know it's the right thing to do that if this material is reusable, why are we disposing of it? You why are we trashing it if it can be repurposed? Um, you
know, if you're like me at home, I don't throw anything away just in case it could be repurposed and my basement shows it. But um, all right. Well, Vanessa, thank you so much for looking into that. I really really appreciate it. I think it's it's um
gives us maybe uh something else to focus on in the future um as to how we can improve on the amount that's going into some of these um these bins. Um how do how do we >> I said it was not a clear like
incentivized no feel for me to say look at this. You know, it wasn't exactly what you were hoping for. >> It wasn't at all what I was hoping for, but >> but I I think that >> it was good to learn and keep quiet about >> No, I think the important thing is that
we're pulling out good material that can be reused so that we're not creating um new items. We're not using up natural resources. So I think it it still serves a greater purpose
even though dollar-wise it's you know I don't think everything can be evaluated based on value you know dollar-wise it's just >> you have to look at the whole picture >> as the technology of sorting improves
there's the potential to go back to earning revenue from things and the important thing is we have people educated that >> that's the right thing to do >> the technology will come along >> right
>> and we have got paid in the past >> so >> well yeah that part of it too but also Todd I saw that you were in the um whatever the webinar that the League of Women Voters and Claire did the other night
>> um and I just think as we talk about all of these costs going up of disposal that you know knowing how to dispose of things but if more and more communities go to pay as you throw you really have to think about how many bags
you want to buy to get rid of stuff and other ways to get rid of it and maybe to say I mean when I lived in Europe um in the 80s I don't know how much they've changed or you know slip back or whatever but you left the packaging at the grocery store or at the department store or at the whatever because it was
going to cost you a pretty penny to throw away the styrofoam and the plastic wrap and the cardboard insert and the whatever. Then the stores became the lobby people to say don't put it in these. So who was it? Someone said oh I think it was in that
webinar they talked about what do they buy the tooth paste on a hook so they don't have the box to throw away in in some you know Australia or New Zealand or something like that because why do you need it in a box? It's already in a tube. So, did the did the grocery stores at
that time have bins for you to put the trash in or you were just using a regular trash recepticle >> at the grocery store? >> Yeah. How did that work? >> Well, I know that like when we had an exchange student pretty recently, like you know, within the last 10 years or
so, and they wanted to buy an Apple product, and Apple is notorious for like embedding things in so many layers. >> Yeah. that ultimately I don't know if it was a music thing or I don't think it was a phone but whatever it was that was all they left with at our house.
>> Okay. >> And they would have at the store only left with that at the store. >> Okay. >> And the store would have said, "Oh, now we have to get rid of all of this." Except in their stores, they probably wouldn't have all that because they would say, "We have to pay to get rid of it, too." Right. >> So, don't do that.
>> Right. Get the stores to lobby. >> Yeah. So, like we when I lived there, we would buy um bottled water in glass, selzer water in a crate >> and you drank the bottle and you put it back in the crate and you brought the crate back and you got a deposit for the crate and you got a deposit for the
bottle. Then you bought it again. You just took the water out of it. That was all you needed. We did apple juice cuz the kids drank apple, you know, the same thing. It was in a bottle. >> So, you didn't have anything to throw away at the end except, you know, the little lid that was on the top and the screw on. >> Yes. >> Okay. and and the stores were fine with
it because they just pushed it back to the vendor that filled them with the apple juice or the bubble water and you know so vehicles were set up so that you would do that >> right so there was a system >> that was in place because people knew that there you know it's Germany was a teeny country you know they didn't have
to ship it to you know Wyoming >> so I think that that was a good uh webinar that we had um I found other good information in it but until you know and we don't want to see all these costs go But they sort of become the motivator. I thought in some ways the
tariffs would become the motivator. They haven't, you know, we'll see what it does to the Christmas season if still people have to have, you know, 16 rolls of wrapping paper and, you know, all of this and this and this and then every single gift that comes in a gift bag, the bag is thrown away with the rest of the stuff or people decide, you know, I
could use this again >> because the trash is too expensive to get rid of. >> Yeah. Did you guys watch that webinar? >> No. Do you want me to send you the video? >> Sure. >> Okay. >> It was about uh having producers change the way they package things so that
we're not getting, you know, like the Apple products where you have, you know, a clam shell and then a box and then a box with a plastic insert and then a whatever and what, you know, and it goes down to then you take this little thing out. >> That's the sanitizer thing that that we
have in the first. >> You should seen the packaging in that. It was a carton. The carton was about this big. Okay. And it had four containers of soap about size of the dispenser.
And I could I couldn't believe it. I opened the box and it was I mean just paper after paper, wrapper after wrapper and I said, "This is disgusting." >> But if it's paper, I mean, I feel okay with paper and cardboard. It's when they have to do these ridiculous like
>> plastic and bubble wrap and all that. It was some of that. But it would but I looked at I said this is >> but it was the volume which it was it was totally unnecessary >> and this is not a breakable product. >> That's precisely. >> Yeah. I mean it really didn't >> I thought I thought it was some sort of
a stand included. What I'm think what is all this about? And this is the sort of way, you know, and I think a lot of the shipping companies are figuring out what works and doesn't work because we get a lot of uh different cat products through Chewy >> and they've becoming broken and now they're finally getting more efficient
in their packaging and not overpackaging but structurally, you know, instead of the stupid things they were doing with plastic, now they have cardboard that has a little more integrity. I like cardboard. I can do something with cardboard. >> Right. So Todd, um, is is the trucking
industry at all involved in put back on on all this packaging because obviously they could transport a lot more product if there wasn't so much packaging. >> I I wish they let us get more involved
in this. So I kind of jumped on that thing without any authorization. So, uh, I don't know >> the webinar or Oh, >> yeah. I mean, I I I like to listen in on this stuff, so I wasn't really listening as a Mac. I was listening as a resident.
>> But you got drawn in. >> Oh, what? >> You got drawn in any in way. >> No, no, there's a lot of interesting information. I mean, there were >> there were people there that didn't know as much as we did. So they were asking, >> you know, very good curiosity questions
that that Claire explained really well and and and anecdotally and that was really nice. >> So just FYI, they do the packaging they do to protect the product because it's being shipped
from China and it's on a container ship and then it goes to trucks and whatever. So they're trying to their objective is to keep the breakage down and that's why they package the way they do. And I'm
not standing up for them. I'm just so you understand the reasoning. >> Yeah. And a lot of it too is theft prevention. We know that. Um because if you try and get anything out of some of this packaging, it takes almost a hatchet, you know, or a machete to get
it out. It's it's ridiculous. um you know big form to get one little thing out and you know like if you buy um stuff at BJ's you know I happen to buy my my allergy pills there's just two little bottles in this huge thing and to
get to them I mean I'm hacking away trying just to get to a bottle it's like but I think it's it's theft prevention that's basically >> well that that's what a lot of it is unfortunately but and opening those plastic you wrappings. It's dangerous.
>> Oh, it is. It's sharp plastic. >> Not only that, I mean, if you're using a machete, >> don't slip. >> Listen, my son bought me a machete last year for Christmas, so I have to use it. >> All right. Um, I'm not clear about that.
Um, if if the trucking industry or stores are are getting involved in pushing back, >> not yet. It's the trucking, by the way. >> Yeah. >> When when the rate of something that goes on a truck is by weight.
>> Yeah. >> And if and it's, you know, if it's this big, you and it's doesn't weigh much. You're still you're paying for the cubic feet. >> Mhm. >> So, >> would it make sense then for trucking industries to push back? >> Not necessarily.
>> Because they're getting paid and they don't bring them back. >> You fill the truck up with stuff. beginning each commodity might be different on a different different rate scale, >> right? >> But, you know, they don't I mean to I I hear what you're saying at this point, they don't care. >> Okay.
>> So, if you fill up a truck full of stuff, >> you you know whether it weighs 10 pounds or a,000 pounds, >> right? >> You're getting what you're paying for is largely space, >> right? >> And it may be by weight and it may by be by volume or a bit of both. But what I'm
thinking is, you know, if you're driving a thousand miles to deliver a truckload, if you have more in that truck, doesn't it make >> Not necessarily. >> No. Okay. >> It cost me $400 to ship my daughter
Christmas presents to Colorado because I had to use such a big box and put enough padding in it so all her stuff didn't get crushed. send her gift cards next year. >> You know, I think she would like that. Yeah.
>> All right. So, we've already talked about our outreach assistance. You guys saw the the um proposals. I think they're good. Um I told her to hold off on the batteries and the light bulbs till we get clarification from from Sean. Thank you. I want to thank you all
for participating in the egg fair. Um, I think it's super that you were all helping there. Um, I know you had some interaction with the public, which I think is great. We didn't get rid of any of the of the buckets, but I've got them. They're clean. They're in my
garage. I'd like to get rid of them. >> Okay. I'll try and mark it because I know that um my name's not with me now. Wanted one. And I'll reach out and set up for you guys. >> They're not helping. Just sitting in my garage. I'd like to get them to somebody. Okay. Do want to make a
reminder tomorrow morning is the SSRC meeting in Abington. Um I did I think I sent you the agenda. So it has the Zoom link should you decide you want to attend via Zoom. I will probably be uh
attending via Zoom. Um I did ask for an update on our income and expenses. Um our beginning balance was 15,775. Our income this year was our RDP money
of 7,200 and this is separate from the swap shop. And our expenses were $8,96467 leaving us with a balance of $14,1081. So that's where we are and that is through
918. Okay. So any expenses we've submitted since then will further reduce that amount. But like I said earlier, we're in good. I think we're okay. Um waiting for our
next RDP uh grant to land. Um and uh the case of 300th wanted um me to let you know that the you know there's a lot of events being planned for um the 300th anniversary. Uh their agenda for
their upcoming meeting is on the town website right now, but their first event is uh a gayla on January 31st at Jones River Trading Company. Uh that's all the information I have on it right now. I don't know how much the tickets will be.
Um but I think they're planning on having a really nice event. The other thing is um this will apply more to ad um they're planning old home days in September
and some other event either se well October is the house tour but there's a couple different events they're going to have. There's a parade during the summer. Um so I don't know what will happen with
the egg fair next year. Uh, we'll be discussing that Thursday night, but I did want to make sure you knew about the gayla. Okay. See if there's anything else here that anybody needs to know about. I think that's it
other than there are two uh hazardous household waste collection events remaining this year. One is October 25th in Plymouth. They're taking tires at no charge. And then the other one is in
Hall on November 15th where there there will be a fee but they'll take propane tanks and fire extinguishers which our current transfer station takes. So that's not a big deal but the 1025 in Plymouth you know is coming up. Um
>> do we need to pick something up for that? >> I know you have to register but I don't know if you need to get a >> You do need to register. >> You did register but I don't know if I need to get something from DPW. No, it shows handover is the only one that requires a authorization form now. I
think Kingston used to, but I think we switched over um to where we don't need one. But you do need to register and give them an approximate uh estimate of your quantity based on gallons or pounds depending on
what you have. I've got a whole bunch of stuff. I've got to register and and get this done. But I've got I've got these flyers. If you have >> Absolutely. If you know of some place to um to put a couple, let me know. Do you need one? >> Before the Aggie Fair, I tried to find
them. I went to Plymouth Library. I went to Kingston Library. I went to Dexary Library. I went to the Plymouth Senior Center. I went to the Dex Dex Senior Center. Only had them in Spanish. >> Oh my gosh. >> Um I'm trying to think of the third. So,
I ended up just printing one from the online thing, whatever. But I thought, >> "All right, why?" >> Because I thought, "Oh, I wanted enough to have one and then I could hand them out." >> All right. I have to go to the uh Council on Aging anyway. So, um and and the library. I'm going to both today.
So, I dropped a couple off there. Could >> you have a couple more? I think I put them in the laundry. >> Sure. >> Some little store there. >> Two or three. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. All right. Does anybody have anything else from the committee? >> Will Todd gonna report? He's our last. >> I wanted to see if the committee had anything before went to Todd. >> Well, we need to pick a next meeting date, but that's probably after Todd, too. >> Okay, >> Todd.
>> I do have a I do have a couple things. >> Good. >> All right. So, first thing is my Inerson Merc is going to be at your town hall. >> I know. When is that? >> October 28th. It's a Tuesday from 9:30 to 11.
It's going to be on hazardous waste, swap sheds, and other grant requirements. >> Okay. >> Which I think >> is it all about grants? Is it all about grants, Todd? >> Not a full thing on grants, but it's it's primarily going to be on the EP
policy, which is the new policy to uh to kind of uh take over the um by recycle policy. >> Okay. All right. So, that that I need to sit in on that. Yeah, that's gonna be that'll be a good one. So, thank you for lining up the room. I really appreciate
it, Jean. All that work and going back and forth and figuring out the dates were wacky because I don't know. It's just I've got to go to Borderlands for our retreat on Monday and then I got to go to Kingston Tuesday. So, it's going to be a very long two days, but that's okay. I didn't want to interfere with
Claire's meeting. So, she's like, "Well, my meeting is the next day and that was the original date." I'm like, "Yeah." She goes, "No one's going to go to two meetings." I'm like, "All right, all right, whatever." So, that's the first thing. Sorry. Um, the other the other thing is last week I
went to the NERK conference up in Boston, which was I went on Tuesday. It was like a two-day thing but spread over three days. Um, which was really fascinating. A lot of great speakers. There was there was a lot to learn. Um, but one thing I found which I thought
was really cool was in the vendor area. Um, and this is in no way I just want to preface this by saying I'm not trying to push this on anybody. I'm not trying to say this is a a good company to work with because I know nothing about them. I don't know if they're on state contract, but they have a really
innovative way to um help with recycling and diversion. I'm not sure if this is even going to work. I'm gonna try and get this to work. Oh, it's not going to work, is it? Um, dang it. Maybe if I get my face in
there. Maybe. Okay, so these right here. >> Okay, >> those bins have a lid. And I don't know if you can see it on this one right here. It's a clear it's a clear cover. So, what it does is you've got either a round barrel or the the kind of the
rectangular ones in your schools or public areas. And they've got this insert that fits on top. It's like a tray, right? It's this really cool kind of tray. It's all like injection molded. It fits in in the top of the trash barrel or or bin and it's got slots for
stuff. So, if you've got it's if it's for recycling, they got a slot for a can, a slot for a cup, a slot for stuff that would be recyclable. And then there's a a a really clear plastic cover that goes over that. And there's a hole in that cover.
I'm doing this in reverse. Right there, that slot. Right? You see those slots? And then on this barrel, there's a big hole in the middle that you can drop stuff in. But what it is is it shows you exactly what can go in that container.
I thought it was absolute genius. I really I I'm like, why didn't I think of this 30 years ago? It's so simp. It is the most simple thing I've ever seen. It It almost stupifies the process because now you can look at the bin and go, "Oh, wow. I've got this in my hand. It goes
in this container. It's literally It's going It's going like Neolithic on it. It's really It's genius. It's absolute genius. But they've got different models, too. They got these big square metal ones. They got these ones. They're just inserts that go on the top. And then they've got the the round barrel ones. But
>> what's the name of that company? >> Divert with a Y. Dy Vert.com. Um, like I said, I'm not promoting this, but it's something to take a look at because if you're really trying to enhance your recycling and making sure the stream is clean,
>> this is one of the best ways I've seen because it's just so simple, you know, it's so obvious. >> Um, but anyway, I wanted to I've been kind of tell I told the the Plymouth Recycling Committee about it. I actually sent them some info, but sent them the website. >> I I really liked it just personally. I
think it's a fantastic way of doing things, especially and and and Jean, for you in the schools, I think it's perfect for schools. Like, I can't think of a better way to show a child what goes in each bin rather than having the exact example of what they have in their hand at that
given moment to put in there. So, I really thought this was this was very innovative. It's the most innovative thing I've seen in a long time in this industry. Um, but I really I I like it. I'm hoping to see more of these around that maybe they'll take this to the next level, but I don't know how. It's pretty simple. So, um, besides that,
>> did you say did you say it was on the, uh, state buy list or you didn't know? >> I I haven't looked yet. I haven't looked yet. I haven't had the time. >> Um, >> do you know do you know what the cost is roughly? I want to say it was between $60 and $80 for each one, but I don't
know if they come in triplets or pairs or I don't know if there's a deal they work out with municipalities. It was really I only got to talk to him for a short amount of time and then he got bombarded. So, it's like I had like three minutes with him and that was it. >> Okay. >> And I had another Mac.
>> It was really kind of po kind of cool. Overall, the NERK conference the day I was there was was was pretty good. It was it was a very um the speakers one of the speakers that I thought was really captivating was the opening the the the main speaker which was the the it was
the gentleman in charge of Oregon DEEQ Department of Environmental Quality and he was talking about which I thought was really fascinating. I'd love to get a copy of this hopefully soon. But he was talking about is recycling really working right? you
know, is is everything we're doing the way to maximize the recycling and minimize the impact on the environment. So, he made that correlation between the two. And it was really fascinating because the correlation is not let's maximize
the recycling and save the environment. It is we need to be picky and choosy about the stuff we recycle to maximize the environmental impact. Because a lot of this stuff that we really want to be recycled, it's almost like the wishful recycling, but even more so than that,
it actually does more damage than good. And they've got all the studies to show it. This guy went back like 30 years. I I've got some of the stuff. I took some pictures of the the the uh the slideshow presentation. I I'll send those over to you so you can get them out to the committee. But it was the research
behind that was absolutely fascinating and it made me kind of rethink my strategies and saying is are we doing things the best way possible? >> I'm not sure we are after that after that conversation or after his
presentation. I'm not sure we are. So, you know, I I'm not speaking on behalf of D, but I'm speaking more on behalf of what can we do to make sure that we're doing everything possible to make the biggest impact, environmental impact, the best environmental impact as possible. So, I'm going to start looking
into that stuff some more. I want to reach out to that gentleman and and actually have a conversation with him and see maybe we can do it as a MAC thing. I don't know. But um at some point here maybe maybe do a statewide Merc with him involved and and have him do the presentation. Like I said, it was
it was it was a very different way to look at this stuff, but it was also very scientific and and it actually had results. So I don't want to take up too much more time with it, but I just want to let you know that it kind of blew my mind. So it was pretty amazing.
Isn't this a topic that should be um bumped up to those in charge of D to invest in investigate and >> you know >> come out with maybe some new policies or procedures? I mean
>> I I appreciate the fact that you're willing to dig into it, but it seems to me this is something that should be done at the state level. >> It's a much higher level. I agree with that. You know, it really is. and and you know I know I know each state has their own you know DEEQ or D or whatever
it is you know their own environmental group that that works on the state levels so everything's a little bit different but I I I would like to figure out a way to get the information that he had and find out what the supporting evidence is evidence is of this of his findings and get that
up to DP to see if that's >> if that's something that DP would stand behind or if they would say, "Well, we do our own thing and that's we're going to that's what we're going to keep doing." >> Um, you know, nothing's changed in the state. It's like, let's let's get as much recycling as we can. But it's also
it's it's more than that. It's a lot more than that. And I I think, you know, maybe it's more of an educational thing towards the responsible parties, which in my opinion are the residents and the businesses. I think they need to take a a little more control over their their
their materials. And that's what we're trying to do obviously with recycle smart and you know all the education that we're trying to provide. But I I think there might be another way to look at this that maybe nobody's really thought of. So >> yeah, >> it it kind of opens my mind.
>> I'd definitely be interested in in learning more about it. >> Yeah, me too. Me too. >> The pre presentation was great and I've got a couple of shots of the slideshow because I I was sitting in the front row at a table just staring at this going this is unbelievable. like this is
cutting edge stuff. So, you know, and and it wasn't it wasn't don't recycle. It was let's recycle the right way, the responsible way, the the where you're going to get the most bang for your buck. And and like I said, it made sense to me at the time. So, I don't know. >> I agree. I agree.
>> It was pretty fun. >> All right. Very good. Thank you very much. I have a question for Todd. So, the last time I was on the board with CLA, we were looking at the 2010 solid waste master
plan. And one of the things they were toying with was mandating that institutions that generate over X amount of uh organics was >> were going to be required. Is there any
update on that or is there >> Yeah, it's going well. It's made national news that Massachusetts is a leader in that right now. So, we're actually >> all that's up on the state website.
>> Oh, I was going to say all that info is up on the state website. If you go to master organics, everything will be there. >> So, Okay. >> Thank you. >> Great. All right. Um, back to the table. Um,
we talked about our next meeting. Now, I have to ask you as as a collective group, is 9:00 too early? Do we need to have a start time at 10:00? And how would that work for everybody? >> I apologize for being late. I was out of
town all weekend and got in late, but I'd rather do 9:00 than 10 o'clock because otherwise I'd rather do nine o'clock. >> Okay. >> 9 works for me. And nine works for you, Todd? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll keep it at nine. I just wanted to throw it out
there as an option. Um, so our next regular meeting would be the second Tuesday of November, which is the 11th, which is Veterans Day. So, um, do we want to bump it forward a
week to the 18th? Sure. >> Okay. Because we had been trying to schedule it on um weeks that the selectman weren't meeting so that Sean could possibly
attend, but he has not um been able to attend for a while. So, would November 18th work? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. So, I will um reserve the room for that day. Um
is right now we have an automatic reservation for um the second second Tuesday. So, let me change that. Okay. get that changed. Um, and then at the next meeting, we can
decide if we want to do one in December or just skip it. >> Um, you know, it depends on whether we have anything that's needs immediate attention and looking forward. I don't see a whole lot at this moment, but we'll we'll make that decision at the
next meeting. >> Okay, Everett, you have anything for us? Uh, not today. >> Not today. But your your recycling committee is moving ahead. >> Yes, we are.
>> Excellent. Excellent. Well, you know, we're here. If there's anything we can do to answer questions, provide information. I know you've got Todd helping you out. I don't claim to be any more expert than Todd, but um certainly, you know, we've been we've been uh
running a recycling committee for many many years. Always looking for new ideas and we will need to share whatever information we have. So, just so you you know that. >> Great. Thank you, Jean. >> All right. Yeah. So, we're really impressed with what you guys are doing
with the swap shop. That's pretty neat. uh you got it up and running in a whole lot faster than us. So, uh we'll get there. We'll get there. All right. Um so, are we all going to uh go over and take a look at the swap
shop? >> I I can right now. >> You can? >> I think I can. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. So, are we will not be discussing anything there. So, we do not have to um schedule a meeting. We're
just going to take a look at it and we'll discuss it further at the next meeting. Okay. >> Okay. So, we can adjourn. Uh, do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> I'll move. >> Second. >> All right. >> All those in favor? Um, >> I >> I
>> I 40. Okay. So, it's 10:45. >> Yep.