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Part 1 (Video ID: szQBCdWigbc):
- 00:00:10: Meeting Called to Order, February Meeting Minutes
- 00:05:15: Demolition Permit Request for 127 Whopping Road
- 00:18:07: Commission Vote: Not Historically Significant Building
- 00:21:39: Stump Removal Chemical Costs and Effectiveness
- 00:24:54: Gravestone Cleaning Supplies and Training Schedule
- 00:34:51: Elementary School Request for Cemetery and Powderhouse Tour
- 00:47:26: Boy Scout Cleanup Project and Revolutionary War Stone
- 00:53:44: Resignation of Commission Member and New Chair
- 00:59:23: Model of Independence Ship Donation and Accuracy
- 01:15:56: Historic Presentations, Art Show, and 300th Committee
- 01:27:20: Powder House Restoration and Library Talks Update
- 01:29:49: Great Bridge Dedication and Senté Bench Storage


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All right. So, calling me to order April 8 6:32 p.m. and present are >> Linda Reasta, >> Tom Vanetti, >> Ken Brackley, Jim Mc >> and Greg chair. We have uh guests

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tonight and they are >> Dave Cass Gassie >> Cassie and Kevin Mcdana. >> All right. All right. So, let's go to the minutes from the February. Did you able to get >> I was I did not get the March ones done

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yet. I have to >> But you were able to access that. >> I can access it. Yeah. I just haven't transcribe it. Um, so we have the minutes that the Tim sent out a couple

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days ago. Does anybody have any comments about them? I didn't see anything on it. Kind of unusual, but yeah, I will take out on the number six update on 300th anniversary. Give me a second

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bullet. I had review meeting recording to get information on other part of the art show. Oh, I did look at that quickly and I there wasn't much to add there. So, I'm just going to take that out. Okay. >> I have a question. >> No issues.

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>> I have a question on new business number five. I was reading it and I couldn't remember for the life of me what insurance issue um are we talking about. >> I Yeah, I couldn't either. That was about the um letters from the insurance company, the cancelling insurance because it said it's a historic >> Oh, right, right, right.

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>> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> I'll I'll add that now. >> No, I was just curious. What time? >> I mean, this is February, guys. Come on. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Uh Jim, just a tiny typo. Don't mind. Um

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on D in the second page, last sentence. Um town facilities guy. Don't mind >> facilities rather than GU. >> Oh. Oh. Oh. Town facility >> manager. >> Manager.

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>> Right. So, not only was Guy but it was Gut. >> All right. >> Any other comments, suggestions? No. >> Okay. So I need a motion to approve the minutes as amended. >> Yeah, I will move to approve the minutes

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of February 11th, 2026. >> Second. >> All right. All in favor? >> I voting. >> I >> All right. Um mail. We in the mail. We the state sent us our latest copy of the uh state

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register of historic places. And every year they put this out, send us one hard copy without a binder. So I just take out the old one, put this one in its place. >> Yeah. >> So if anybody wants the old one, they're welcome to it. I'll get them done the

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end of the meeting tonight. But you can look through this if you want. Pass that away. We're in it. But a number of >> number of places in town. Okay. Um this year 26 coming to a close. pretty soon if we're going to spend

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anything out of the available funding in our account, we'll have to do it fairly quickly. And that might be things that we've talked about before, the stump stump chemicals or more cleaning chemicals, spray stuff. So,

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it's something that uh we should talk about do. I I've got some stuff as far as the info on the stump remover there. Yes. >> And it looks like that's going to be an expensive type chemical stuff. Um why

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don't we we can talk about that after we handle the uh um demolition permit. Let's take a little bit of discussion. You know, we'll think about some other ideas or anything else we need to do as far as what chemicals that we might need

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and how that's going to tie in with the the instructional believe that >> from that company >> for the um for the clean up the great clean that >> yeah so um but otherwise you know they like

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to get stuff in here May end of May 1 of June expenses so it can be approved and fall off their budget all right um this uh well that's right that's what these are

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for all this passes around him yet. We'll have to >> thanks. Yeah. >> All right. So, Mr. Dass is here tonight, I assume, with Mr. McDonald as far as the demolition permit for 127 Whopping

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Road. I sent out an email to you. Um, you just want to You can sit over there. You come around the table if you want. It's up to you. put it right in. >> All right. Um I did print out a copy of the uh the

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lot. Is the lot still the current size like five or six acres or something else? >> About 22 acres. >> 22. Is it this shape? >> Nobody behind it. Yeah. Okay.

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>> Um asked if anybody had done any research on the property. >> Um >> I'm sorry. I was going to but I just so many things >> and the mass historical one is uh >> the macro sheets here.

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>> Yeah, that one >> Hatch is from I used to know Mr. Hatch. Do you know Mr. Hatch? >> No, I knew his wife Amy. >> Okay. She's she's still alive, right? >> No, she passed away about a year ago. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Oh, that's too bad. Um,

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so maybe you can give us some history of what you're playing. Anything of the house, any house history that you know of? >> Any house history that I know of? I don't really know. I know she bought it in 79 and was it 70 87 87.

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>> That's about all I know. I haven't looked that up much. I know it's old. >> Yeah, it's it's right around the let's see the late 18th or early 19th century. I don't know if any of you have been to it or seen it lately. It's pretty bad. >> Yeah, >> I've been inside of it a few years ago. It was bad then. >> Yeah.

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>> Were you living? Have you lived inside? >> No. No. >> So, you just bought it um about a year ago. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> planning for all this. I don't know if you guys have the packet. >> Yeah. Yeah, we got the packet. Um but why don't you go ahead and tell the

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commission here what you're planning to do? >> Planning to just build a new ranch there. Me and my girlfriend are going to live there. She's going to be wife and spend our life there pretty much. >> So, it's a um it's a a prefab home, right? >> Yes.

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>> What they call them? They call them >> This is my general contractor. >> Prefer to call them prefabulous, but they're modular homes. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> And you'll own the whole the whole property. >> Yes.

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>> That's that's one of the views there. The whole plans are inside that um the area in Anderson's junkyard, old junkyard there. That's that's being worked on now, right?

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>> I'm pretty sure there was a project approved for that. >> Yeah. Is that >> like 20 to 20 something duplexes going in is what I heard. >> Mhm. And that doesn't border your land, does it? >> Way out back it touches.

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Okay. And um according to the map here, there's some sort of two streams running through the property. >> That's still true. >> Yep. >> The one pretty close to the house. And um so you only intend to build on one area.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Change nothing. Garage just needs some new roofing inside and it >> which that's what's next to the river. >> So the house is about >> gone to the front. Yes. >> A good idea.

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>> This is our last sign. >> Yeah. >> And the out buildings that are shown on us still there. >> Um I'm in the process of getting rid of two more. They were like shipping containers or like truck body containers >> just full of stuff.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. They getting rid of a lot of stuff. >> So nobody's lived in the house since she left the house. Is that right? And I think what I heard the health department told me this that she was taken out I don't know maybe 10 years

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ago or so and there wasn't any running water or electricity. >> Oh god. Well thank >> really >> yeah she had taken out by ambulance. >> I can confirm there's no electricity in the building. >> Yes. >> Well it does. Yeah they certified it now. >> You can see it cut right out the street.

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>> Yeah the >> there's about two feet of water in the basement right now. How old was she when she was I don't know 76? >> Really? >> Yeah.

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>> So, are any of the parts of the building salvageable? Some of the beams are they are they all >> people come over and ask me and I I personally don't. If you go in the basement and look up at those beams, they're pretty bad. >> I've had people ask me about the rocks like the the foundation rocks.

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>> Are the rocks or granite? >> Um they're like a cell stone. older type field. Yeah. >> Had a guy ask me about that. What am I doing with it? >> Yeah.

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>> Typically houses that are really bad and um can't be can't be economically restored. Try to get rid of some of the components if they're salvageable, you know. >> Yeah. I was on a I have two numbers that people stopped by and gave me numbers to call. So,

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>> but it's that only increased the cost of taking it down because you can't just rip it down, you know? >> Right. >> So, you were inside the house setting up. >> Yeah, it was done >> uh about 10 years ago now. Um it it was pretty deplorable. Um it was um bad

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conditions inside of it. The first floor wasn't even livable. Um but there was um extensive rot and no electricity. There was a lot of water damage. So, >> Mhm. Yeah. >> So, your opinion on it would >> I I don't think it's unless it's

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something drastically historical, which we haven't found, there's no saving it now. >> Yeah. I tried tracing back the deeds, but they there were a lot of sales and stuff in there. They never got to the end of it. Find out where the where it all came from.

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>> Um, any questions? And >> no, >> you know talking about >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. seen it just from the street but never been in. >> Cleaned up now. You can see it now. >> Couldn't see it for years. >> Yeah.

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>> Um No, I always wondered about it driving by. >> I was driving by there as a kid with a old bar. >> Mhm. >> That's what it was, I'm sure. >> Oh, yeah. And

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>> Benjamin Cook, huh? So >> was it farmed up till excuse me about 10 years ago or >> book they got sick so they didn't take care of it well >> stories I heard but >> yeah he used to go to kill our garden

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every many years ago. >> Um so was the house condemned at that time or is it condemned now? >> I haven't there's no um acts on it. Yeah, there was no actual um condemning,

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>> but the um all the utilities was shut off and anything. Um I think there was some voluntary um leaving of the property which didn't have to get to that point. And anything of um

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interest like architecturally of tile work or something inside or >> um yeah they said the first floor you couldn't even get into and the second floor was um awfully crowded as well so you really couldn't notice anything. >> Oh, is it just boarding or >> Yes.

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>> kind of like the one out >> the other one we looked at last year out high school. >> Yep. Um, actually worse than that one. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> So, the granite foundation >> that can be deceiving if they I think

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they looked at the house from the outside >> granite up top. It looks like stones. >> My house >> probably on the bottom. >> Like granite in the front, but actually you go in the basement that's stone. >> Okay.

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>> So, um Okay. Well, you guys we can um take a look at this uh we have to go through the demolition checklist here. How should be preserved? We don't think it can be preserved that right the body

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>> in my opinion. No. >> Yeah. Um so we could forego that. I think you just Well, let's go through it anyways because um is it associated with a historic person or event

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that we know we know >> that's associated with architectural history? These are all reference to town, state, country, architectural history. >> Yeah, in here too. Um, and that was

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written back >> 30 years ago 98 >> original 98. Yeah. So you know 28 years ago um is associated

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with a cultural, political, economic or social history of the town, state or the country in any valuable way. Um is it historically or architecturally important by reason of the period, style or method of construction?

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>> It's typical. Um, I mean, you could say that it's uh not necessarily important, but okay, I'll read that again. Is the building or structure historically or architecturally important by reason of

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its period, style, or method of construction? Is it historically or architecturally important by reason of >> Well, it's typical of a federal style. It looks like so many other buildings in Kingston. >> Yes.

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>> Which would suggest it's not important per se. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. It's an important style. Yeah. In and of itself. >> So, it's a good example of a federal style. >> Yeah. >> Projecting a unique entry is unique and

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well preserved at the time. But that's this is 30 years ago. >> And it is kind of what's that? >> Must have been when the patches bought it, I would say. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It could have been. Um the thing was it was a farm there. That's the

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farmhouse, but it has been built around I think next door you have some sort of a structure now. >> Like a new garage. >> Yeah. I think the same guy building the new development next door. >> Oh, really? So yeah, he owns all that.

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>> What's on the other side of your house? This house >> new uh Nova Circle and then Nukem Mills. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So it's all developed all around. >> So

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it does provide some, you know, continuity for the context for the development of that road and the establishment of people along the road. But it's not really among other houses of the same type or period or previous

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to that. Ken, you got to say something to hang in my every word. >> Oh, no. Taking it in. >> Um, so we'd have to say no. It's not important by that, >> right? >> Would you agree? >> Yeah. >> Um, is it associated with a particular

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architect or builder? We don't know that. >> Yeah. I couldn't find any information of builders or anything. I looked up some history >> basically what I heard St. Benjamin Cook that's about all I saw. Not much. >> Okay.

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So, we have to vote on whether based upon the above criteria if the building is uh if it meets the criteria of a historically significant building or structure. So the question would be

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this building either it does not we can raise the motion either way. It does meet the criteria of a historically significant building or structure or it does not meet the criteria of a historically significant building or structure. And if you vote one say it

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one way and you don't agree just vote no. >> So we need a motion. I make a motion that this building does not meet the historical criteria set forth by this committee. >> Okay. >> I will historical criteria for

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>> it does not structure. >> Yeah. >> Does not meet the criteria of historically significant building or structure. >> Yeah. >> But this doesn't have to be. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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And I will second. >> All right. So, um, all in favor? >> I I >> All right. Unanimous then. >> So, um, I would ask is it

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you're going to have someone come in and clean it out or you just going to have it ripped out with all the stuff in it? >> Um, we we've sold some stuff out of it, had some yard sales. Um, we're kind of just going to rip it down. trash at all. >> Can you get in there to take interior

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pictures or anything? >> Um, yeah. It's pretty gross. But yeah, >> it's gross by just all the >> There's a cat some cat fe that >> Yeah. I was thinking if there's anything in there like your old fireplaces maybe

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the way they were constructed. >> So there's there's one and it just has like a wood stove in front of it now. It's like closed up like a brick. >> Okay. So, it's I don't I don't think anything's that good looking. I like antique stuff,

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but it's I don't think so. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, if you do find have an opportunity for someone to take those beams or if the beams are structurally good, uh, the upper ones or whatever,

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just encourage you to kind of send those forth into the world, you know, rather than just bury them. >> Yeah. when we have the yard sale, people are asking little stuff. >> Good. >> You never know. You can make a little money out of it, too, you know? >> Right.

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>> I I know. I think down at the uh was it Jack got some antique beams when they built the boat house next to the uh or was the barn? Maybe it was the barn at the Bradford house, you know. They they got some antique beams somewhere. Probably a house that and they use them

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and it I mean quite nice actually. >> Yeah. All right. Well, I'll let the uh building inspector know if we have a building inspector know, you know. >> I I don't think so. >> They have a temporary >> I don't think so. I thought Armstrong was still doing it.

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>> Yeah. He left last year, I guess. So, we'll let them know. >> Good. >> Well, it will be as soon as they get that. Yeah. >> Good luck. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night.

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>> Yeah. So I'll draft that letter right there. Go ahead. All right. Back to expenses. So passed around the little thing on the uh some of the products probably similar to

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what you found out there. >> Yeah. But that one, the one thing that seems most appropriate, I think it's number one there. That jar treats one like tree 12 to 18 inches in diameter. >> You need a new jar of this, wouldn't

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you? >> Big trees we got. I mean, need like 20. Yeah. >> Well, one of those things, you know, I don't I don't know if you have to drill that one either, but that's 160 bucks. Just thinking about that. That's a lot

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more the things I were looking I was looking at. I don't recall exactly now, but I thought it was on the order, you know, decent size stuff. It's got to be like $15 to $20 of

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>> really. >> Yeah. >> Um I don't have those notes with me, but your your item may be in there. >> Yeah. This is the one that looks familiar. These are the only

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things they had that talk about stumps. >> Yeah. >> On there. >> Uh, >> one of them's more for like a >> Yeah, the bowite is what I was looking at. Um but I >> but this pound here it says

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the one pound product is enough to treat one tree stump size 12 to 18 in. >> Yeah. >> So you have to drill holes. >> So a lot of holes drilled. >> Um fill the holes with water and let stand for four to six weeks.

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This is the stuff I've used and it does work. But but I think I did not include this in my list because it was too expensive. >> Yeah. >> Um and I had some bone stuff, but it was, you know, on Amazon and you could

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get like a big bulk of it. Um I I'll have to go back and look at I didn't bring them with me. Really? >> Yeah. >> I I just checked Home Depot and Lowe's. >> Yeah. Let let me let me check back because I remember sort of and then I

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looked at the copper nails >> and the cost of those. >> They didn't have any online clothes. >> No, Lowe's at Home Depot. I didn't find >> But there's a thing in here about copper nails don't work. >> Yeah. Okay. No,

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>> I haven't tried those, but uh >> we need a couple. >> Um it's AI off of the internet. >> Oh, yeah. you know, >> when we're looking at stump removal. >> Yeah, >> it's part of that thing I gave the last page property help.

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>> So, um so what about uh supplies for the uh gravestones cleaning? >> Um so the only thing we need still that was recommended for us were masks. Um he said we could use paper mask but um if we do the N95 it offers a little bit

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more protection. Um N95s are approximately $50 for 15 of them. >> Okay. Um >> All right. That and what about the chemical? >> We have everything we need in the kits.

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>> All right. I'm just thinking we could stock up if we had to, but >> um we have like five or six kids right now. We have a lot. >> For 50 of them, >> uh >> $50 for 50. >> How much uh how much liquid is there?

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>> Um I'd have to check. Um we can always order just gallon. We have all the rest of the equipment now with the kits, so we could always um order just gallons of that instead. We don't need more kits. >> How many gallons do you think those kits have? I believe it's one gallon per each um undiluted.

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>> When you dilute it, >> uh you he recommended not diluting it. You can dilute it with different situations, but he recommended not diluting it. >> You may want to think of simple goggles. Uh >> there's um is there goggles in there? I think there's goggles, gloves, and

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everything else is just on a paper mask. Double check. >> Yep. >> There's a there are a couple of people working. We may need to get a some goggles. Yeah. So, the concern with the mask is if we're just spraying it, it should be okay. It's not the chemical

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itself. It's um we really shouldn't be touching any of the headstones because all everything we see on there is black mold. >> So, if we're disturbing it, >> that's why we need the respirator. >> I see. >> If we're wetting it, it should neutralize it. But if we get >> if we hit any of the stones or anything

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and we'll So, that's >> if we're going to stone to stone, we should be wearing a respirator. >> Yeah. Yeah. And we don't want to get in your eyes either. for that matter. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> I don't think those guys that worked on the stones wore any masks. >> They were wearing masks. Well, they're

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offered masks. He said he has them for them. So, whether they had them on or not, I'm not >> 100% sure. Um and it may have been >> they may not have had them on when they were doing the repairs. They may have cleaned them and then >> they didn't have to wear them for the

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repairs. >> So, have you talked to them about this training thing? >> Uh yeah. He said whenever. So I I actually wanted to see um get a couple of dates from this committee and then give him a couple of options. >> Okay.

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>> What? >> Thinking how about Memorial Day? >> Sure. They're not working Memorial Day. >> It's a big Memorial Day this year. >> Yeah. Um,

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does it matter a Saturday or Sunday? Does it not matter? >> Normally not for me. No, I don't about anything else. >> I can um I can give them a couple options. Um maybe Saturday the 25th

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this month, >> the 26th. uh 25th Saturday. >> That's funny. And then >> Oh. Um >> Yeah. Is that right? Oh, yeah. That's right. Cuz Sunday's

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. I can't do >> I can't do Oh, I'm sorry. What day did you say? >> Saturday the 25th. >> Oh. Oh, this month. >> Yes. I'm looking at May. And then um >> in my brain

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>> if that is okay with me >> then and I could also >> yeah either Saturday or Sunday are okay with me >> and then maybe um May 10th and 16th I could ask would see which day works best for him when the 10th will be a Sunday. The 16th will be a Saturday. >> May 10th's Mother's Day.

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>> I'll forget that then. Nope. I could ask about May 17th. either the 16th or the 17th and see if either of those days if the 25th doesn't work. >> I'll be here in either of those days. I'll be >> out of state >> with that.

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>> I'll be out of state. >> Oh, okay. >> But, you know, I don't have to be there, but I'm interested. >> I will um check those dates with him. >> About the 25th. Everybody okay with the 25th of April? >> Yes, I am. >> Yeah, I'll go with that first as long as

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he uh is available. >> I doesn't matter. We we have our memory walk at le catch up. >> Well, you can check the three dates and >> right. >> Yep.

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>> So, the mask might be something. The uh what was a gallon of the cleaning spray? We have a lot of >> um so >> Yeah, I know. Um >> we're just going to spray them. >> It was a while ago. Let me see if I can

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find that company. >> They shipped that pretty quickly, didn't they? They >> did. Yes. You're going to check on us. I am. Yeah. There's all night. >> So, I believe the kits um I have to double check, but I believe the kits

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that we got include a gallon plus two quarts. >> Okay. >> And then um and we like I said, we have >> five >> five or six of those. Um just to buy you can buy a gallon with two quarts. Um and

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it's $117. >> Can buy a gallon >> plus two quarts. >> They do it that way. Yeah. >> Um that's that's I don't know that because the I think you can refill the quart those spray bottles. So I think that's why

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>> do they probably wear out. >> But we currently have 7 and 12 gallons I believe. So yes. >> All right. What else we should probably get a supply of that. Hope it's not dated, you know, used by date.

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>> What's shelf life? Yeah. >> How long how long it take to walk through the cemetery? >> Sorry. That's a um that was a two gallon one. So one gallon plus two quarts is actually $79. Uh >> but we can get a two gallon one too. >> Yep. Or you can buy two separate gallons if we have enough of the spray bottles.

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Um and that's 90. So there's different options at different prices here. >> All right. Can you Okay. What are the the options right now? >> Um so let's see. We have a >> one gallon >> one gallon solution is $46.

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>> Yeah. Um, a onegon uh, sorry, two gallons are $91. >> Um, you can get one gallon with two reusable 32 oz spray bottles for $80. >> So, those spray bottles aren't full

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though, right? >> Yes, I believe they are. >> Okay. Is that >> We already have >> Is that how they came? >> Yes, >> we already have five spray bottles. >> Um, we may have more than that. Um uh which kit we have uh yes we have five sorry five free bottles. Yep.

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>> How much is the one gallon plus two quarts? >> One gallon plus the two things is um $79. >> So it's two quarts. A gallon. Two quarts and one spray bottle. >> Uh no the two quarts are each spray bottle.

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>> A spray bottle. Yeah. Okay. >> The two gallon price. You got that? >> Yes. What was that glass cost? The gallon, two quarts, and two bottles. >> The gallon with the two quarts spray

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bottles is uh $79. >> All right. So, next meeting will come with the determination of what we're going to spend on. >> We may need something else. >> I don't know. We have our summer party.

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>> That's right. the lobster bake. >> You know, it might be nice too if if we could make that April 25th date work because that way we'll have the training before the next meeting and the training we might find. Boy, it'd be nice to have something else.

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>> True. >> So, >> wait a minute. Oh, okay. >> Yeah. If we can do the the training on April 25, we'll know how that process works. And if we're out there and it's like, boy, it'd be nice to have >> We need a shovel. Wow. whatever. Okay.

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>> Meantime, I guess we'll buy a box of uh N95 masks anyway. So, >> so we'll have them for the training. Do you want me to do that? You want to do that, John? >> I can pick those up. >> Get those locally or >> uh that's Lowe's. That's right off of

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the price that I got. So, I'll look around and see if there's anything cheaper. >> All right. You can get them online, too. So, all right. Moving on to uh elementary school requests projects. You uh

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>> did you you guys all get a hand out here on this Iowa Cam stuff? >> Yes. >> Oh, can I get one? >> Why don't you get one? Because you're writing up >> and I can compare it to mine. You >> make another one afterwards.

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um got a request. Well, this one was going to do with walking tour with the uh elementary school kids and it was during co and it got cancelled and um she wants to do it before she retired.

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So, um I don't know you were here then. Who else was here then she wanted to do this? Anybody else? Ken, were you here when they were going to do this walk? >> Was it through the graveyard? Yeah. Well, they're going to walk the elementary school up the road

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>> to the to the >> Oh, yeah. To the powerhouse. Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Go to the townhouse. >> Oh, okay. >> But, um, now I guess they're going to be the bus. Okay. And she couldn't make it tonight. She had something else going

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on. I said asked her if she wanted to come tonight. But um they want someone to talk about the cemetery and the powder house. >> That's on the 5th, right? >> It's going to be May 5th. Yeah. It'll be

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around lunchtime area. >> So they were talking about walking from the townhouse up here, which >> which would be uh from here over to where we're going to be. Oh, so they Oh, see. So, you mean

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they'll the bus will come here? >> Well, that's what they're looking at. >> Okay. >> And maybe the kids can come in and walk through. I don't know what that they'll see, but >> Well, it says here they uh plan to be at townhouse 10 to 11:30 for tours, seeing the inside of the town hall, veterans

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memorial, seeing the trucks from the fire and police department as well as highway department. I don't know if they're bringing the fire and police trucks down here or not, but or whether she knows they're not here, but the highway department are. Maybe they'll bring a couple trucks down. Then she was

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thinking of walking over to the cemetery, Powder House, and Fance after for a quick tour. Talk about the history of these places before we head back to the bus for our next stop. We could possibly do the before the town hall or after we

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had done at about 11:30. >> There are graders. >> Um >> I thought it was first graders. >> Oh, 22 students. See, >> first grade, >> grade one. Yeah. >> Good grief.

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>> Good grief. So glad she's taking a bus though because she first she's going to walk out. >> Yeah, that's great. No, >> we falling asleep one day. >> She said they made a video last time of the spots and did our own history search

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to be able to share information, but I know that someone from the commission could do a far better job. >> We could show them where Cornelius Holmes was murdered. Oh, >> well, they'd probably actually be interested. >> Could show them where Charlie Brown's buried. >> Yeah, >> right.

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>> Yeah. Um, so they're going to have chaperones, of course. We got I don't know how many teachers probably just her. So what do you think? What do you want to do? >> The cemetery actually kind of I don't

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know. >> She wants to do all these different things and and and they're not close together like >> right >> the fire station is would be great but that's way way up here. And then I don't know I I just don't you know sure

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cemetery is very interesting but they want the want to see the old buring ground or they want to go through through Evergreen evergreen's a beautiful cemetery and but you know there were really >> what's their overall goal because >> kids interested in history

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>> okay history so this part over this is more you know town government it's not >> I mean the concept is history but >> these for first graders. >> I think the bond school was >> I think the bond school would be interesting. That's old. Things are

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obviously old. If she's wants to get them into >> the powder house is cool. They and they could be told about the powder house and why there is a powder house which is kind of cool. Then they could be taken into the old burying ground and they could see some

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interesting graves there. And at the font school, you could talk about the, you know, the memorial that's there >> as, you know, a part of history. >> That's right. >> You know, just right because it's right there. >> The Civil War. >> Yeah.

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>> You can weave it in from a historical perspective because they're standing right there. >> So, how long would this take if we went Oh, you're going to say something. >> Yeah. Just I'm sort of at a lot first graders. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it can't give them too much. They just want to play around.

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>> Be paying attention. >> They want to I'm surprised they're bringing first walk from here to the old ground. >> How do they >> I don't know how would fit in. >> You'd have to go all the way across Evergreen Cemetery. Then you'd have to go up the hill, which is too much. So

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they'd have to go on the sidewalk all the way around >> and they'd have to go through the Oldtown House driveway and go into the into that entrance. I mean that would get 22. That's kind of >> easier for half an hour at least

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>> at the library and just focused on that area. >> Well, a bus could pull up pull up in the parking lot of the cemetery there or alongside on Elton Street Green Street. >> Rather than trying to connect this and that

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>> just dump everybody out there >> and it'll be a quick >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Like you say, it's attention span is pretty low. first graders. But a quick thing about the school and the house and then

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>> the old town the townhouse the old townhouse. >> Well, she's not even looking at that. So, >> okay. >> But I mean that's something you can point out. Yeah. Oh, this is what it used to be, >> right? >> Going in the font school that sort of tangential. This was an old, you know, this is an old schoolhouse. So, the kids

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>> and this picture like you were in here learning, you know. Yeah. >> And the girls will go in this door and the boys will go in that door. >> I don't know. Is that true? >> Yeah, there is stuff there, I guess. >> True enough. >> We could have them do that. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. There you go. Little simulation. That's good. >> The old burri ground is I think kind of interesting because the kids Oh, it's creepy, you know, and they'll see all those to >> How would they get there? Go around the front on Main Street and go, >> "Well, they could all go right. They

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could all go through the driveway of the old townhouse. >> I love that. >> Yeah. Too bad. >> There's always a car of blood and flag there. >> You have to open up the gate. >> Yeah. Why not?

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>> All right. So, you're going to be around? >> Yeah. I'm going to be around that day. It's my birthday. >> Sing happy birthday to me. That'll get them interested. >> Are you 69? >> I'm 69. >> Good. Um, anybody else available that day?

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Yes, >> I've got I've got an appointment. What time is this going to be? >> Well, it'll be around lunchtime sometime. You know, morning, late morning, early afternoon. >> Hope the kids need to have food.

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>> Lunch. >> They'll have they'll have adults with them bringing water. I imagine at least that. And then they have to go to the bathroom. >> Yeah. >> Holy mackerel. There you go. There's the bathroom. >> That's what they're going to do at the town hall. >> I think they should go there. Here first.

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>> Yeah. >> And then they come down here and they go to the bathroom. >> Yeah. >> Right. Right. But they kids can't hold it though. Let me tell you, first graders, it's like all of a sudden they got to go to the bathroom >> and once one goes >> and then then you know what I used to

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say? Well, I used to say the sixth graders would go on a field trip. I'd say, "Okay, drain the radiators." >> That's and and I make them go into the bathroom. >> Why you going to take them over to the bill house? They have to cross the street. That's the problem. And you don't want them crossing. >> Well, not house, but there's a bathroom

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in the font. >> Is there Yeah, that's right. There is a bathroom in the house. >> That's great. That's good. >> But did they book the fonts? Is that available that day? Like you need to check with Oh, >> I don't know. We'll have to see. Um Yeah, there we go.

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So if they went to our places first, then they could either divvy up in groups, groups of eight or at least in half maybe so that there's only 10 in a bunch or, you know, seven in a bunch or

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something so that they can go to different places and kind of rotate. >> You think it might be less distracting for them. There's only a few kids rather than 20. Yeah. And we'll just have three stations

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basically. >> Yeah. >> Excited about talk to the teacher. You know, I'd have to talk to the teacher here. The teacher wants to have a vision thinking, you know.

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>> Yeah. Like where are they where are they going to go to the bathroom? Stuff like that. Are you going to bring them water? You know. >> Yeah. you know, and if it rains, you know, you know. >> Yeah. What about a rain day?

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>> So, we would suggest the bus over there. >> Will the bus stay? That's another thing. Sometimes in field trips, the bus drops you off and then they go do something else and somebody's going to be back at such and such a time. It would be good if the bus stayed. If you got to go to multiple places, you know.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, >> I wonder if she's right there. Maybe we can get her on the phone. That might be I don't know. >> I don't know if that's the elementary school number though. Could be. Let's just see if it is. Maybe it's her number.

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>> That's the school. >> So, not her number. All right. All right. Well, there's questions to ask her about that. >> Call me. You can give her my telephone number if you want. >> Okay. Um, but basic goal though. Basic goal in

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this scenario with the history. >> Find out what's why are they doing it? Yeah. >> I don't know how they're going to spend an hour and a half over here. >> Yeah, that would be that's a stretch. And whether they should walk through the cemetery, that's not advised really.

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From here to our place. So if they stopped at our place first, they came over here by walking. It's downhill. >> Yeah. >> Good idea. All right. Well, we'll let we'll um find out some more information. Give him your

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number. Anything else? John, do you know anything about this as far as the fire department goes? >> No, but we get requests for they call them toucher trucks where we show up somewhere and the kids come over and look at the truck or they wash it or something like that. So, that wouldn't

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be unheard of, but I wouldn't know about until probably about a week or two before. >> All right. Anything else? Her name is Karen Lundy, certified dyslexia interventionist.

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I don't have anybody up there. Nobody's trying to get in tonight. I don't think it might be there. Okay. >> L U N D Y >> uh D E Yeah, >> boy scout cleanup or the old burying

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ground? Any information, John? >> Uh I know we just had a scout that um I had asked the SC. Yeah, I'd asked the scout leaders if anyone was interested in doing a cleanup um to help to assist us with that and one of the scouts called me um looking for an eagle

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project. Um I don't think a cleanup itself is worthy of an eagle project, but is there anything else? I said I'd bring it to the committee. Is there anything else that we could have them do in that area that might be worth it? >> Can they help with the cleaning of the

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stones or is that chemicals? They probably if they're not 18, they probably couldn't do the >> Yeah. Right. You're absolutely right. >> But you know, if we cleaned up the whole cemetery, right, and had all the branches done and

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all of it raked out and stuff. That's a major project. >> Yeah. >> Make sure all the graves have the flags on them and they're marked. That's another thing. >> I mean, that's >> that could be memorial for sure. >> Yeah. you know,

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>> and again, it would go to um the council to decide if it is appropriate or not. Um I do have something else that um I was going to bring up that might be able to add to it a little bit. Um some of it we'll be doing, but then maybe they could um add to this. Uh the 300

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committee uh approved money to get a stone. It's not going to be a large stone, just a 30 by uh by 15 by like 16. Um, and it's going to be dedication to our Revolutionary War soldiers. Um, so I'm going to do a request. Um, actually,

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might as well check with you as well. Is the town green on the national register? >> It's part of the national of it. Yes. >> Do do you need to have approval to do anything there to put something there? >> I was going to go in front of the selectman for approval to put the stone there, but do we need to do anything

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else or would that be appropriate? >> I I wouldn't think so. Okay. after that. >> So, um I just need to go in front of the select and like I said, but we're going to put that stone there. Um >> where is it going to go in reference to the statue? >> Well, that's one thing we need to figure

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out. Um I was thinking maybe closing on Main Street. So, it would be like behind the statue closer to the trees. That might be the best. Um so, it's not in front of a gazebo. Um so, people coming in it this big.

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>> Okay. It's going to sit on the ground. >> There's a there's a base. There's a um like an 8 in base on it. So, it'll be probably about this high and then uh but what I was thinking is we'll purchase that and place it and stuff, but maybe um kind of like they do

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with the Civil War, do a small um clean up around it. Some bulk, maybe a few, >> but nothing that's going to be high up, but some flowers and stuff like that. Maybe adding the work on the memorial part of the cleanup might be enough for an eagle project. I'm not sure.

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>> So, it would go between the current statue and Main Street. >> Main Street. Yeah. Closer to the There's a a fence and there's a row of trees and I was thinking a few feet in front of the trees. >> In front. Which front? >> Um, well,

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sorry. In between the trees and the Civil War statue. Mhm. >> Okay. I'll double check, but I don't think there's any problem with that. >> I I don't have a sense of what an Eagle project should

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what what should be considered an Eagle project, but I do wonder, you know, you were talking about going in front of the select board and stuff. Could the individual be involved in that too? Like >> so that's supposed to be part of it. >> Yeah. Okay. Great. if um

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if I can get a hold of him fast. The problem is is >> he might get delayed going to council >> to get some of this approved in which case then we wouldn't get the stone in in time because it's being dedicated on the proclamation on the end of June. >> So some stuff might be time sensitive.

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It all depends on what council >> how fast they approve it. >> And this isn't just a cleanup of the old burying ground. This is a cleanup after um the place was debreed. It's a little little bit different and uh so it's kind

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of a it's not like a typical every year the burial ground has to be cleaned up. This is >> Yeah. And and that makes it part of the master plan. They would be contributing to progress on the master plan. >> That's true. That's that's a wonderful point.

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>> I love that master plan. Got to get it in wherever. an example um when a few years ago the scout did the map of all the veterans there in the cemeteries. >> So that constituted enough work to make a yeah an eagle project. So um it it could be enough. I've seen eagle

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projects that were just >> um cleaning up in front of like a school building and planting a new um new shrubs and they counted that as one. So I've seen very elaborate ones where they build buildings. Solid. >> Mhm. >> All right.

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>> All right. I will um reach out to the scout and see um what their time frame is. >> Um it is uh it is uh Seems like it could work. Don't

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>> possibly. Yes. Uh I do not remember the scout's first name, but his last name is Megan. >> I'm not him so much as the their contact with the troop leaders. >> Oh. Um, some of the old leaders that I was with,

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um, they're still on this year. Their scouts have their children have aged out of scouts, but they're staying for the rest of the year. So, I've still in contact with them right now. >> Okay. Um, stump removal we talked about. Um, I don't have any information on the

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cabling of the lynen tree up there. I want to we should try to get that company same one that did the tree work back and we want to >> Is it the same company? >> Well, I don't have anybody yet. So, they haven't provided me with the estimate even though I've asked them a couple

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times. >> I have an estimate from another tree company, but it would mean we have to go to the insurance hassle and all that. So, um All right. And we have to reorganize

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for next year. might have a new member. So, um >> I I I'm gonna be stepping off and um just got a lot going on in my life right now and um a little overwhelmed and uh

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so I I did say to Craig, I need to step down. I do want to figure out what the most convenient time is to do that. Not I I can continue to contribute until we can transition. Um but uh

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>> you did take on the uh job with the John River, right? >> I did. >> Oh yeah. >> And uh the the Yeah, it's personally that uh of doing a lot of um taking care of my mom. >> Pirate.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. We've got uh uh care for for my mom kicked in pretty significantly. Yeah. And uh it's it's becoming it has become overwhelming at the moment. So uh so I just need to create some time for

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myself and it's I know that this is it's not that demanding of time but it's it's something I can eliminate as a thing rolling around in my head. So, um, so I I I would really like to know how

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how can I do this gracefully and and not just drop, but um, yeah, you know, let me know what you think. I I'd like to, you know, as I can, but >> whatever works best. >> We might have some people on the list.

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Let's check with the office down there and see weight listed for Joy. Ken, do you know somebody? >> No. You always look like you want to say something and I'm like, "Okay, you never say anything." All right. So, we'll check that out. I'm sorry. Sorry to see

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you. >> I I I am too. I really enjoy everybody here and I and I hope I can maintain the relationships and um you know, uh and prioritize some things right now, but

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I really enjoyed my time on it. >> No, we understand. will will miss you. Yeah. Contributions. Thank you. >> So, with that sad news, I've um also been asked if I'm going to renew my my

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uh arup for another three years. And as I mentioned before, if um I'm not going to chair next year, we change out like next fiscal year, June June 30th. my uh gig is up here. So, I'm

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not going to be chair whether I stay on. I'm still deciding whether I'm going to stay on as a member or not. But so, someone here is going to be taking maybe the new person that comes and find one might be chair. >> Good idea. >> But, uh >> it is a good idea. That's what I got

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suckered into with the Jones River Association asking you to join and become president at the same time. >> You don't know better. You don't know any better. I was like, "Sure, I'll do that." Yeah, it's an easy job. >> Yeah, >> that's why I got CPC, too. >> Yeah, that's right.

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>> That's a custom. >> It's like you get here and then you find out. >> No, that's okay. It's been fine. >> So, um, we'll have have to have an election vote, you know, maybe in a meeting or two as far as the next year's officers are

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going to be here. We have a vice chair right here. We have secretary and a chair. And that's really all we have for this one. We have no money. Don't be treasure. >> So, think about it. And um

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we'll see what happens. All right. But I'm resigning from chairman for the next year. >> So, >> and and that actually sounds like a convenient date for me if I'll stay through June. >> That's when things change. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> That would make it good for the new one

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coming in, too. >> Yeah. Do we know who might be braiding in the wings to join us? >> I don't have anybody in mind, but >> Okay. >> There was somebody that had asked about it um >> not that long ago, right? >> Not that long ago. And we told him to

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put the name in with the section. >> And actually there may be some people coming up. I thought someone might be here tonight about the model, but maybe not, you know. Peter um

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Yeah. Oh, he lives in Las Vegas. >> Oh, does he now? >> True. Yeah. >> No, no. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Peter um Cobb. >> Oh, >> yeah. All right. The model. Now, contrary to police, I wasn't

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ignoring, but I don't I never saw those pictures or anything about this model. This is uh And what the heck? They find out there's another model. >> I didn't see that. >> So, where does

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>> you should pick up here? >> This is Okay, why don't you go ahead? >> Yeah. And Lind, I apologize. I sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh shared it. Well, >> I'm sorry. >> I should have shared it with everyone because I don't think Lynn seen this either. Uh anyway, um uh gentleman who's

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in the the u I forget what the genealogy is, but Drew family member um lives out of state. Uh contacted I don't know why the first probably something to do with the book. Um a friend of his built a model of the

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independence um guy who lives in Marshfield >> and he approached us saying who do I talk to at the town? I'd like to donate this model. >> Nice. So yeah clarify for me. I just the assumption here that the guy in

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Marshville was contracted by someone the do family to build it. >> I thought he was just a friend but maybe I >> maybe he was I'm just >> Yeah. >> So who approached you? Was it the model builder or >> Drew? Peter Peter Drew. Um,

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so, so, you know, I uh say, "Well, you want to talk to Nick and the historic commission would likely be involved to help figure this out if you want to make this gift?" um email went back and then uh

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Nick sort of concurrently if you will Nick had mentioned um when he saw the pictures of this model I think there Nick has got his finger on what might be a larger item if you will that we might

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be involved with saying hey um Nick was informed um by someone with knowledge. And it might have been John Webble who knows the rigging of a schooner versus a Brigantine is um saying that hey the independence

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um as we know it in the town seal and the independence model that's in the library that was depicted in our book um do not have the exact rigging of a briganty. It's off. And Nick's point was maybe we want to research this and just

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sort of set the record straight somehow not to change the town seal of representation you know that was made by an artist etc. So Nick put forward that information. I let Peter Drew know that not there was anything wrong with this model but hey

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there is a there's an existing model at the town library as part of the book project. We have some photos of that. um just so you know that um then he emailed back and said I withdraw my offer to give the model to the town said I don't

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want to compete with what the town already oh the town you you already have one and said something like maybe ours is not good enough and he said well I'm just going to keep it for my family instead so it wasn't like a hard

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feelings thing and I can share all the corresponding Greg and Jim at least have seen all that and probably John but I forget. Um so, you know, he made the offer and was looking for some guidance.

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Um I had mentioned we're meeting tonight. You want to join or does the model builder want to join us on Zoom and you know just talk about what they did? Um Tom had looked at some of the detail on it I I believe from the photos because he knows a lot about the

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original. Um, but he Peter again just withdrew his interest and I I don't think anybody did anything wrong and he didn't he didn't hear Nick's, you know, Nick's point about the authenticity of the rigging.

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>> Um, so that wasn't shared with him. >> Yeah. And the armor is not authentic either. On either of the models, the uh original uh Independence had 14 guns, seven on each side. And it had 12 rail guns. So it had a rail. It had these

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small cannons which were called rail guns. And uh they were like like very large shotgun. >> Those are probably like anti-personnel, you know, if they're in battle. So uh so the armaments that that I'm seeing on

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both models and that's understandable. I I have no problem, but it's kind of a representation. And so, but the rigging, that's a bill, a bill issue because that's how the thing o looks overall, >> you know what I mean? So, it'll be nice if the rigging were uh accurate. And I'm

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not I do have a picture of a of a brigantine that I took in Nova Scotia, by the way, which I should share with you when you could compare them. >> But this this one does look like the seal, >> right? >> Yeah. >> And the one in the library. I Where's

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the one in the library? closet. I guess cry out loud. Things are hidden around. Nobody knows. Put it away. Used to be out in the hallway in a glass case for teen years >> and then they got rid of it.

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>> So this one >> the rails on it, you know, there was a gun or two on there. >> Well, those were on the deck. >> Yeah, >> those are deck guns. That's how that's prop. They were always on the deck, >> you know, because the boat wasn't that big, you know. I didn't know there was

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ever a model made. >> Yeah. Of >> this boat. >> It's another model. Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, no, this is the one they built. >> A kit. >> It's a kit. >> Oh, it's a kit. >> Yeah, that's right. That looks like that. Yeah. >> Oh, no kidding. >> So, it's a kit, but it's not. >> I thought that was a poster or something.

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>> Historically accurate. >> That's the kit. And um which I've never seen. I I used to build models, but I know the company now. Anyways, >> would want to be >> Looks like it's pretty good model, but I mean I haven't ever seen the one in the

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library kind of shapes that >> you probably have. >> It's in very good shape, but um it used to be out on the library floor and Donald >> when you walk >> moved it in storage. We had to ask him to drag it out to get pictures of it.

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>> I mean, it should be out for 300. Really? >> Oh, it's >> It was big. Yeah, >> the case was big. >> Yeah, >> the case was like half this table. Yeah, >> it's got a case, too. >> Yeah, had a big glass case. >> Oh, wow. >> Or whatever. >> It's not in the archives, though. It's

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in his library, >> I believe. Um, and it might have been moved around, but I think it's in the main building, just in storage, >> I recall. >> Moving it would be risky, >> right? >> I mean, it's kind of fragile. I would think

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>> they should bring it to town hall. >> That's what I'm thinking. put it in the center of people don't see it every day. >> Yeah. And just one small point that I mentioned to Peter Drew that we were excited and I shared it with John for for the 300th for possibly like if they wanted to donate to the town

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>> maybe part of proclamation day along through the ceremonies >> we have a new model of the independence people you know take a look in that >> I don't think there could be a place for a second model somewhere in the town really >> well Charlie wasn't a place for one of

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them >> well it should be >> you No. So, uh >> I wonder what his reason was for putting it away. >> You think he felt like he was going to be competing that it wasn't going to be >> good enough? I don't I don't know.

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>> Talking about the library. >> Well, should we work on getting it out though for you know the one in the library? is May the um May or June is the ship talk. >> Oh, right. >> So, I think it should come out by then

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at least. >> Yeah, >> we can talk to Nick, >> right? >> When was she when was she launched a christened? >> It was in the beginning of 1776. I can't remember the month. >> Have we missed it? Maybe it was April or

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May and it was brought to Boston and they put on the masks and they put on a cannon and all the rest of that stuff and then I think it went into action in July, late July of 1776 and it survived until November of 1776.

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At the end of November, it had its uh fatal encounter with the uh the I forget the name of the ship that it with, but it was Captain Dawson, >> and it was taken to Halifax, but then it

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was redeemed. It was captured again and brought back to Boston, I think in 1777. And I've lost track of it. I I can't find out what happened to the boat after that time. But it would have brought to Boston and

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it was a big deal. Everybody was very excited about it, you know. >> Well, maybe we could have a day on the 300s where they have the commissioning day or whatever day it was finished in Boston, you know, entered into the Navy. >> Yeah. Well, we have the model. Yeah. It

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was the Massachusetts Navy. We had our own Navy. We were at war with England 14 months before the Declaration of Independence was signed. Do you believe that in Massachusetts against great >> witch? Jeez. >> Yeah.

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>> We even had our own currency. >> Yeah. Our own president. >> Yeah. >> Well, what are we going to do about it? Why don't we dubtail the new library the existing dovetail with Nick and see what

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he may have planned and and maybe part of the ship building exhibit or um it's a way to tie in the date like you just said with the commissioning >> it's a ship building talk the talks is a ship building

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>> yes one of the month for >> I meant to bring a whole schedule >> I think it's in my I've got a dare. I think one of these folders John last

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>> I think you're right in May or June rings a bell >> coming up. Yeah, it's close. >> Well, I'll be talking about the independence on the 2. >> June 10th. >> Oh, >> Kingston's master ship builders. >> Okay. Yeah. June 10th. And I'll on the

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26th of May I'll be doing >> the independence talk at the library. So >> what time is it on the 10th? >> Oh that should be there for that. >> I don't have the time on here. >> When you do it at the Adam Center or at the library >> Adam center.

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>> Okay. So we'll see if we can bring it up. >> What date? >> June 26. >> And that's a talk specifically on the independence. >> Just on the independence. It'll be about 4550 minute talk and then really >> think Nick wants to have it there.

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>> Yeah, >> they're not they're not on this schedule. >> I don't think Nick had finalized it. >> Yeah, it wasn't finalized yet. >> A lot of ship building stuff here though. >> Yeah, >> with the ship building stuff, we should have ships. >> Yeah, that's the first I think the

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Independence was the first listed on on ships of Kingston. I know the uh the Jones spoke but there were boats built way before way before that and Kings open hasn't wasn't enumerated by insurance I

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don't know if there is enumeration but I imagine I must know about some of them you know >> the um you know the Delano walk out there house on it >> I don't know who the owner is if it's

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the same one that was there for a long time. But they had a tremendous collection of halfs from >> Oh, really? out there. >> Oh, nice. >> What's his name now? The boat builder here. Kingston >> Shiver or Watson. Okay.

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>> Halfs out there. >> Wow. >> Wall. Huh. >> That'd be a great part of this. What's this ship building exhibit supposed to be? Is that going to be at the the uh there at the Adams or >> The exhibits are usually at the library.

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Is that for the whole month or is it just a week? >> Two for two weeks. >> Two weeks. >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> Um I'm not sure if he's just focusing on merchant ship building heyday likely. >> Mhm. >> Um be a lot on that, but I don't know.

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Maybe he'll go through, you know, with smaller boat building. >> Yeah. Same place. >> All right. Anyways, okay. >> So, we want to get the boat out. >> Yeah, >> we got to do it. >> How are we going to free the boat?

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>> I can approach Nick if you'd like. >> I can see if he already has plans with this or not. >> Yeah. If not, suggest it to him. >> Get some maybe some I don't know how fragile it is or whatever it could be. You need a professional to move it.

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>> Get photographs of it. >> Do you? I haven't seen >> get a professional movie coming use those funds. We're trying to send it out probably, but I don't know if it's enough. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Possible we can do that. But where would

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we put it then? >> Out of the library. >> Over here. >> Where's the June 10th do? >> That should be at the Adams Center. >> Adams. Yeah. we have at the Adams Center. >> Yeah.

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>> Do we know if it is in a closet or is it over in the archive? >> Unless it's been moved over. I'm pretty sure it was in the library storage when we got photos taken of it for the book. >> Okay. >> Which was last summer or something.

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So, if we're going to put it over there or would be >> I was thinking more of a permanent thing over there >> if it's not going to be out in the library. >> Should we ask broad the facilities if

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there's where it is? We'll have to ask >> too. It was in a case. Yeah. Sorry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, it would be kind of approaching the selecting to see if they would

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allow it to be put in here, I think. >> First, but you can talk to him about whether he'd be agreeable to having it move someplace where it could be a permanent display >> or at least to accompany the talks on the ship builders as that are coming up in the summer.

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>> Yeah. Might as well have it out then, right? >> Yeah. At least the other inaccuracy is that it has the American flag on it. >> Oh, yeah. >> Which didn't exist at the time. >> Yeah. >> But that doesn't that's I'm talking

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about the library model. It would be the pine tree flag. But the rigs of ships, I mean, they changed they changed rigging from say they add a yada drop one or it it wasn't it was a fluid type thing. If they something broke or

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whatever, they could change around >> some degree. So I don't know where was wrong, but if anybody's interested in um a booklet I wrote about the independence, I can send it on email for you. Just email me and

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let me know. And it I don't know, it's about 25 pages long, but it gives a list of all the sailors that served on it, which is kind of cool with their Revolutionary War record. >> Got it all together. >> So, I think you gave me a copy of that, didn't you?

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>> I don't know. Did I? Well, I printed it up. I printed a few up. Yeah, >> but I can I can send it on computer. Just let me know. >> Okay. So that's kind of what comes in the next thing about historic presentations.

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Do we have anything new to add to that, John? >> Yeah. >> Uh >> we do >> new >> next Tuesday. Well, kind of next Tuesday. Remember the lady who came here a few months ago from Wind? >> Yeah. >> Uh Christie

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got her last name. No. Right. Um, uh, I went up to see her and I'm going to give a little presentation on Tuesday on little facts about things in history. She doesn't want me to do any long thing, little bits and pieces. And uh,

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so I put together about a dozen interesting little stories and with some things to look at. And so I'll do it this Tuesday >> and I'll tell her it's on behalf of the, you know, Kingston Historical

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Commission. Uh, you know, >> we already gave up one of the books, you know, as you remember, we gave them one of the books because they were a contributor to us get the book. So >> Okay, great.

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Any other news on historic presentation? Yeah. Uh no, no, nothing else. Uh at some point we're going to be >> down at um Pilgrim um Hall in the fall and invited there, >> right? >> By Donna,

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>> probably in November. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The two of you >> likely with Jan. >> Yeah. >> Just overall >> presentation of the book. We've been approached by people to do to do things, but we're just overwhelmed with things

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right now trying to trying to get first of all get get the Kingston 300 book thing settled down. It's we're sold out now. We have a couple of copies, but for all intents and purposes are sold out, but there we're still trying to find people who

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have actually bought the book. We never pick them up, which is Daisy Luzu. So, when's the thing at Pilgrim Hall? >> Uh, to be scheduled, but probably November. >> October may not work for us. Maybe the end of October, beginning of November.

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>> Great. And it's all redesigned down there, everybody. It is gorgeous. I saw it >> before it was opened. Uh, and it's beautiful. What they've done is The lighting is all new. It's really, really good.

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>> I see. Anything else on new stuff >> for the No, not for any more talk or anything. No. >> Oh, don't forget the art show. Got to go to the art show. I think it's what is it? May 9th. >> Yes. >> May 9th, Saturday. And uh Ken and I will

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be working on the bar school along with other people. Sarah Alter and Peter Beard and uh it's a retrospective of four kings and artists. What um what's the time on that? Yeah,

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>> it's 11 to 3. Also, the Beal House will have uh uh artists of today um are offering their art to be displayed and I think the library also is having >> the library is doing something and also the u center.

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>> Yeah. So, it's really great. It's u we we have a fresh group of volunteers and we will need volunte more volunteers certainly on the day of the event because we have to have bodies there you know to make sure no one's touching the

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art or moving things or >> Yeah. >> So >> are those other locations are they all part of the art show or they're doing >> something? The library is doing a like an art exhibit that they their own thing um that we're just assisting with, but

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the Adam Center and the Be House will actually be part of the art show um current artists. >> Great. And the Bond School will be the retrospective artist. It'll be uh Goen sir, Adah Brucer,

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Marshall Joyce and um Lilius Ford Zingalani was wonderful. She's >> great. I'm sorry. So Font School, Be House

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>> Library and Adam Center. >> That's all on that one day. Yeah. And people can go from sight to sight >> walk down walk down and it'll it'll be four hours and um you know it's not going to be a huge like for

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instance the the show at the bond school is going to be relatively modest. >> I mean you know but it'll be interesting I think. So yeah. Okay. Anything new on the 300th committee? I know it's kind of the same thing.

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>> Yes. But that's the next event coming up. Um after that we have the proclamation um which is on the 27th of June and that one is um taping up. We've invited some dignitaries from the state whether they'll show up or not. We've

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included the dedication now of the um memorial for Revolutionary War veterans in the process of contracting a Revolutionary War um reenactment group. So hopefully we'll have them there. U maybe possibly do a volley um as we

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dedicate it um >> on the green. >> On the green. Yep. >> Um and but we've actually because we had to restructure some of the uh art show, we've actually added to the um day of the proclamation. So, it's

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actually going to start off um around 11 o'clock with um some craft um craftsman and stuff like a craft show that you'll be able to go and purchase stuff if if you want. Um and then we'll um we'll transition over to the um the town green

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at 1:00 to do the proclamation, the dedication, and then back afterwards um like a celebration. U there'll be food trucks, music, stuff like that. Um and then the parade we've gotten um in the end of July we've gotten all the

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uh local agencies that needed to approve it. That's all done. It's all been sent to this mass DOT. So it's in their processing right now. Um worst case scenario they could shut down the beginning of it because their their only say is route 3A. Um and we could shorten

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the parade up if need be. But hopefully everything everything was favorable from all the other um police, fire, state police, town. So hopefully that will go through no problem. Um we're in the process of um starting to create our letters and get them out to groups that want to participate um and do floats,

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antique cars or civil groups who'd like to march. >> And what's the date on now? >> That is July 20. Yeah. And then um the next event of that will be um September and October and those are still in the works.

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anything done on the on the day of uh >> that John Adams and Jefferson died the 26th of No, the 4th of July 4th of July in 1826 will have died 200 years. >> Oh wow.

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>> On this July 4th together they died that day both of them >> Adams and Jefferson. Can you imagine that? And you know the uh uh u John Adams last words supposedly were Jefferson lives.

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>> He he died a few hours before. Yep. >> Yeah, that'll be cool. >> Maybe we maybe I should go up to the church and ring the bell or something like that. >> Yeah, >> do something like that. >> That's all just a quick side note on the U. Kathy Linatra is trying to get

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Chronicle to do something. She She was involved with she know Anthony Ever on some other thing and she said she's trying. >> Okay. >> So, who knows? Never know. You'll hear first. >> Okay. >> Great.

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>> They come down here. >> What about a bell ringing thing for the proclamation? >> That should be cool. >> Proclamation day. >> We could do that. We're going to be right there. >> Do what? >> The bell ringing. If we could use >> our churches to ring the bell. >> Well, you you're going to do the uh the

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gravestone, not the gravestone, the monument or the revolutionary. Or maybe at that time it could be the bell can be done. Yes. >> That's great. >> I can't do it anymore. I used to do it as a kid. Strong guy to get in there and do it.

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>> Remember how we did it for the Amish day? >> Yeah. 11 o'clock. We had all the churches ring their bells. Yeah. Long time no galaxy far away, but that would be possible, right? >> Yeah.

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>> That's great. Emily and Tom and everyone and see. Yep. >> Who's um at St. Joseph's? You go to St. Joseph's, right? No. >> You? >> No. Anybody >> really? >> No.

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>> Okay. Someone must have a bell. Let's see if we can get all the churches to ring at the same time. >> Remember, you went around at one church and >> um maybe uh Oh, I think Maylau has a bell. Um I I don't know if the Baptist

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street bell rings anymore. >> It is the mounts are not good and need to be rebuilt. So I don't know. >> Right. That's what I mean. I don't think they want to touch them. >> Yeah. So have somebody up there with a hammer. >> Well, I don't think they want anybody up there. >> Even go up there. Yeah.

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The Mayflower bill has a crack at it. I but I think I I think they ring it every now and then. >> Okay. >> There was something in Kingston living recently about that. And when I say recently, how many? Three, four, five months ago about that Mayflower bell and

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>> Yeah. Right. Right. It was in the paper. >> It was a uh they were It was a little bit inaccurate. Was made in the beer factory, but was made by a man named Uber. was Paul Leve's uh apprentice. >> Yeah, that wasn't the Mayflower one.

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That was the Baptist one. All right. >> The Baptist one is the one that's uh the the beams are in bad shape. >> But I thought that was the Ravier bell. >> They all three. Okay. >> Bells that were made in the Ravier factory probably in Ravia molds, you know, because they had those molds. They

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just pull this stuff. I'm sure it was old. But they're beautiful bells. They are beautiful bells. to look at and they sound beautiful too. >> Um the powder house um I got a letter

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from uh building facilities manager there and these are pictures from he's taken of the powder house and uh they've since given up um doing business with Mr. Bur. So

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there's he's been in communicado to apply to anything and you know they just don't know where they are. So they're going to look at some other contractors contractors to do historic work for that. And he's putting a tarp over the

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roof to keep that I don't know why it was all winter like that but >> Oh yeah it's just inexcusable. It really is. >> So um he's going to put a tarp over that corally get going on it again. Now, does it need more work to be able to be

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placed or does it just need work period? Because why can't it be put on the foundation now? Like >> it is on the foundation where it's going. >> It is. I thought it was moving back more. That's That's where it's going right there. It's up. >> I I thought block, wasn't it? >> No, it's on granite blocks.

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>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Working on getting the thing repaired first and then thinking about moving it, you know. Oh, it was airport or restoration? >> Restoration.

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>> So, that's where they are now. They're looking for another contractor to finish the project and to finish the work on the Adams building, too. >> Um, the library talks. Dan, do you want to talk about that briefly?

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>> Oh, no. Just I mean that was great in Nick to put up together the schedule and um >> to go there. >> No, not that I know of. The library talks separate from the historic presentations or is that a different No,

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they're joined. Yeah. >> But he was kind of running with the subject matter on those, right? >> Integrating them with us. >> Yeah. >> Or you I should right. He brought in like with Tom speaking some topics >> that we had suggested that were related

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to the book and their own blog of their own. >> All right. All right. Well, I don't have anything else tonight. We have any other new business? >> I've got a couple real quick things. Um the great bridge. Does anybody know if

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that has a dedication to any veterans or to >> see what a war? suddenly tells me that years and years ago there was one of those wreaths around there that was wired on to >> well we stop there every year for Memorial Day and place a wreath there to

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throw a bouquet in. But I was we just had a Memorial Day parade meeting a little while ago and we cannot find any dedication to it or why why we stopped there. So I know most of the bridge are either dedicated to a veteran or to a particular um conflict.

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What bridge is it again? >> The Great Bridge right on 3A. Okay. Jones. >> Let's ask Chen. >> Yes, she might know. That would be good. >> Jan would know. >> Okay, good. >> I mean, if anybody knows at least at least you'd know. She Yes. For a veteran

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and uh and then we go from there. By the way, I hope they're going to finish their repairs on that. >> Yeah, I know. >> It was nice. I was surprised they painted the >> They did paint it and it looked like some of them have been removed. So hopefully they straighten them up and putting them back. We'll see. >> I do too. Yeah, >> because it was always my fear that they

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would put in some modern railing on that. >> Yeah. >> system, you know, >> but they apparently not going to if they're doing that painting. >> That will be a few more years if they're going to do that. Um my next question, the bench, is it uh was it Mr. Bur that

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gave that bench? That's >> Jack. Yeah, Jack. Um, it's kind of just sitting down right now in storage and there's a lot of storage in there that's been moved around and I don't know what's going to happen with that building. Um, >> storage where? >> Uh, the Maple Street. No, Maple Street Fire Station. Um, I talked to Nick about

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it and he was unaware of it. Um, so he wanted a little more information. I don't know if >> I I know he gave it to the historical commission, correct? Or is it to the town? >> He gave to the town. >> So, I don't know if if it's >> if it's of significant importance. I think Nick might be able to find a

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location, but if it's not, he doesn't have the >> And I believe if it's a Sente bench, it's from Four Elm Street. It's It's Edward Holmes. It's >> That's who made it. >> Yeah. Oh, I don't know if he made it, but it it's had in the home. >> Does anybody have some information they could send me about it that I can get or

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to Nick? Okay. Like what? I I sorry I didn't even know what type of bench it was, but I knew it was >> Yeah. >> Um >> Are they going to tear down that building? I I think that there's um talk of it at some point, but I'm not exactly sure. That's it. It's probably worth starting to try to figure out where to

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put that. We can >> I'll try to find something. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And then either >> or if you want to just give it right to Nick and we can see if he's interested. >> Originally, they thought they put it over here, you know, have a ribbon

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around so no one could sit on it. But even if there's room at the um if not in the archives itself upstairs at the Adam Center there's room there. Same thing we put a ribbon on it. I don't know. >> I've never seen it. >> Oh, you got a picture

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>> who donated pictures but I do >> David Holmes must have given it to Jack. >> David's brother is probably still alive. Joseph, if I can ask him, I can reach him.

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>> I'll I'll look in the Doris Johnson book, too, about the uh bridge and uh I'll call up Jan tomorrow. I better go down and see her on Friday. Friday. I think a couple of pictures of the dedication I'm getting.

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>> It's not the best picture. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> It's pretty pretty large. >> It's massive. Yeah. Yeah, that's an old time. >> I remember that was in Jack's pack. >> Is there storage underneath? >> Yeah, that there appears to be a knob

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right there. An old that you can lift up. >> I can't remember if I did or not. Lift it up. But >> it almost looks like an old church thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I think it would be like a kitchen thing to keep everybody warm.

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>> That's keep the rafts are back. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Anything else, John? That's all I have >> no need to the next meeting day. >> I can't be the next meeting. I can't be at the next meeting day

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>> May 13th. >> May 12th. Sorry. Yeah. 13. >> If um if we have it on, who else can make that day >> available right now? As of right now, I'm available.

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>> What day is that? >> Keith, that's a Wednesday. >> Wednesday. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> My god, the conservation commission's going to eat us all. >> Yeah, I know it. >> We should be in room 203.

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>> All right. Right now, May 13. So, we need a motion to adjourn. Make a motion. >> Favor. >> What's that? >> 807. I know.