The time is now 6:30. The date is Wednesday, August 13, 2025. Commissioner Vanetti is absent. Uh, looks like Commissioner Aiano is also absent. I will now take a a roll call to start the meeting.
Dot. Yes. Marilyn, yes. Ryan, yes. Megan, yes. Jim, yes. All right. We'll call this uh an open meeting. Uh please note that we're doing a hybrid meeting with in person and virtual attendance. If a member of the virtual public would like to make comments during the public
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posted on the local scene website as soon as they are able. Anyone intending to make a audio or video recording of this meeting should notify the chair at this time. Hearing none, we'll move on. So Matt, we uh we had two documents to
sign. Is is will that complete the signing of the documents? Yep. We had an invoice from Kingston Landscaping LLC from mowing at Kalista Farm and a invoice from MACC for all of our annual membership fees. Okay. Thank you. Uh, I will now open a
public meeting to discuss a request for a determination of applicability RDA for three Grand View Avenue for the proposed reconstruction and expansion of a deck on a single family house within a buffer zone to several coastal wetland
resource areas and above the boundary of a salt marsh. Does the agent have any comments? Um, we can get a presentation if you'd like. It's a pretty pretty simple project. Okay. Or I can just explain it for you. It's up to you.
Why don't you walk us through and then we can We saw this property before. This was uh a second story edition NOI a year or two ago. Um and it was approved by the commission but was not approved by the zoning board, I believe, for parking
limitations. Um, and so their plan now is to rebuild the existing deck that overhangs the backyard, but to increase it in size to connect with an entryway on the side of the house. Um, so told they needed a file and that an RDA would
be a good start on that. Um it's it's mostly replacing what's there already, but there is a small portion of increase um that we already dealt with the potential for shading effects on the second story addition and it was determined that there wouldn't really be
any. Uh the concerning thing being that at this property the salt marsh comes up and actually touches the foundation of the house. Um, so I don't think there's any issue with the small increase in square footage on this deck in terms of any shading effects um over the salt
marsh. Um, so I believe what was proposed was pvious, but we can we can definitely get confirmation of that if the commission would like to see that. Um, I don't know that it makes too much difference in this particular situation anyways, but honestly, it's usually
better to build them that way anyways for drainage. So, um I don't really have a lot on this. Um if you have any questions, um the applicant and the and the contractor are here and the way everything has been described to me is
nothing is touching the ground. Everything is happening up where the deck is or um inside you know the foundation or structure of the house itself. So what I was writing here would
be issuance of a negative 3da with a special condition prohibiting the staging or storage of materials within resource areas. The limit of work will be the foundation of the existing house and any materials found in the salt marsh will be caused for issuance of fines and/or enforcement orders. Okay.
Does the applicant have anything uh that they'd like to approach and be heard? Let's not have him talk from the stands. But if you have any questions for him, maybe if if you want if you'd like to speak, you you do have to go because otherwise
anybody listening in can't hear you. Okay. But now's the time if you want to. Okay. I have a question. Okay. U on the diagram it says uh newly reinforced concrete wall with footing
below put in. Um when was it put in? The gil might be better. We haven't we don't really know what kind of footing is there but I do have pictures.
There's 2 feet of cement on the outside of the existing concrete. Well, this is a concrete a basement walkout area that's been existing since I bought the home. Okay. So, the deck is just going to go above
this, right? um concrete walkout area, but there is an additional two feet of concrete slab on the ground on the marsh side of this wall.
Okay. So, I don't we don't really know if it's a footing I can pull. So, it was it was there when you got the house. Yes. Okay. Yeah. It's not that's all it's not new. So, nothing. We're not moving that. We
just want to um reinforce the wall, the concrete wall. Okay. In the basement area to help support the deck. Okay. Thank you. K. Okay. If anybody wants the plan, I can pull it
up on the on the screen. Um, why don't you why don't you pull it off just so that I have a better understanding because I had to look on my small screen so I didn't. So, we have I believe I'm a little late, but I'm here.
If you want to call out that record that Buzz Aiano has arrived. Thanks, Buzz. So, this area here is the area they were just talking about. This, I believe, is like a walkth through area. Um, you can walk into the house that way. So, there
are sort of you step down and there are walls on both concrete walls on both sides of you. Um, and this is the outline of the house here. And there is an existing deck shown by the
red hashing here. And the deck is being replaced and expanded over here to connect with I believe there's already something on that side where you have it in red down below was an old falling apart
deck. Okay. So really what I wanted to do was move that deck forward over the rete basement area and attach it to the balcony. So that's what you have essentially is you have two existing decks being slid
into one so that it wraps around and reaches the access point to the house. And then I can show you that same thing on the landscape which is the salt marsh is right here
right up to the house. This is the house and this is the proposal in pink here. And this is the concrete wall with the steps here. So, um, needed permitting, um, but as long as it
can be done without impacts to the salt marsh during construction, I don't see there any potential for detrimental impacts from this to the salt marsh. Um, I do think a condition for pvious condition is great.
You know, the 38 spacing. Um that way you make sure there's no issues with it. All right. If if I may just um I don't see dimensions on the deck framing plan. How how long is the can of lever?
Is that six six and a half feet? Yes. Six and a half feet. Yes. This measurement right here. That plan's different than the one I'm looking at. Hang on one sec. Let me just come up to speed.
Where is that one? This is the one that I was looking at. That next page of the last page you Oh, okay. That's little screen. Okay. So, the existing deck is can leave it 6 and 1/2 ft without support.
She's got a good picture right there. Okay. So, you you have horizontal bracing back. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Nope. That's all I need. Thank you.
All right. Um Buzz, we're on the RDA for um three Grand View. Um if you have any questions. No, I looked it I looked it over earlier. It's pretty straightforward. Yeah. You don't have to stay.
All right. Um does the public have any input? I see. All right. Commissioners, do we have any questions or comments? No. Okay.
Um, do I hear a motion? So, you need a motion to close this. No hearing. It's not a hearing issue. It's a meeting. So, we don't have to close it. We just need a motion to approve. Yeah. If we open a a hearing, we need to close the hearing.
Okay. I was just rereading some directions earlier, but that's fine. Okay. Am I wrong? It's okay. No. No. If I'm wrong, says no. No. That was part of why we switched to RDAs and meetings was to do away with some of the pump. Okay. Interestingly enough, the manual
interchanges it. So that's why I was going with N. Moving on. All right. So the agent had a made a recommendation for negative3 IDA with some um um with some comments. Did perhaps do we have a motion um to issue
that negative3 with comments? I'll make that motion. All right. We have a motion for Megan. Do we have a second? Sorry. We have a second by Brian. We'll take a voice. Uh Dot. Uh yes. Marilyn, yes. Brian, yes. Megan, yes. Yes. Buzz, yes.
All right. So, that motion carries. You ask me to issue a negative 30 3 DOA with uh the notes as as uh discussed by the agent. Okay. Um I'll put the permit together. The commission will sign it at their next
meeting in two weeks and I'll issue it to you the next day. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. You don't have to stay. That's You don't have to go, but you definitely don't have to. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
Thanks, man. If you can either wait for 6:45 for the NOI or jump into the next. Let's do the the RDA. Yeah, fine. All right. So, the time is now 6:43. I will now open a public meeting to
discuss the request for a determination of applicability RDA for 17 nobody circle for the proposed construction of an addition to a single family house within the buffer zone of the wetland resource areas including a potential vernal pool off site. Does the agent
have any comments? Um the applicants online if you'd like to hear from them. Uh this is a addition project. Um the I want to say it was in the periphery of
jurisdiction, but that's that's not necessarily true with the uh potential vernal pool, but um this is within previously developed lawn area. So this is not something that really pulls up
those standards. Um but we can hear from uh the applicant and then I can give a quick update after that. Uh that is uh Mr. Arts, would you uh like present? Sure. Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, please. Uh for the record, state
your name and address. Sure thing. My name is Thomas Z. I live at 17 Nobody Circle. Um me and my wife are hoping to get approved a plan to add a small addition to the rear of our house. Um Matt, I can share some plans
on my computer or you can share on yours, whatever would be easiest. Um I can share from here. I have it pulled up. Thank you. So, here's the uh says pond on the plan. It's potential
vernal pool. Yeah, perfect. So, um I just wanted to note um you can see the the property line is that dark line that's uh kind of adjacent to the pond just south of the screen currently. Um this sketch was
done from an a plan from the original property um survey which at that time established that 50t no disturbance buffer. I extrapolated that out to the 100 foot buffer so that I could see the impact on our potential addition which
is um behind the house. So you can see there there's just a small corner of our new addition which falls within that 100 foot buffer. But as Matt noted before, pretty much everything in the backyard that's outside of that 50-ft no
disturbance buffer is currently lawn. Um the the previous owner had um got it approved some um landscaping walls and a fence line along that perimeter line. Um, and so my point of view is we are
pretty much as far away from the pond as we can be with the addition. Um, and pretty much there's there should be no impact from this addition into the pond itself. Okay, thank you. Um, Matt, can you bring us up to speed?
Yeah, I can say we did a site visit and um as as he said the that 50 foot area there is an existing fence that delineates the yard developed yard area from the natural area and it looked to be um pretty well kept in terms of a
intact natural buffer around the pool. The pool looked good. Um just for for my clarity, the lines that show 50 and 100, I expect that's treating it as a pond and not correct. Yeah, like he said, this was a
this is from an older older plan that he extrapolated out when this was first developed. They didn't have some of the same um regulations that we have now. So, I would not consider this to be a uh accurate plan from a resource protection
standpoint, but for an RDA for work within a developed area, I would say it's it's substantial enough unless the commission thinks it's not. Um, so yeah. So, you know, if you want any permit issued to have language in it
that says something like this permit is not, you know, used to determine resource area type just so that somebody in the future doesn't try to claim that that's not a vernal pool because the commission issued a permit where it said it was a
pond. We could do something like that too. Um but I I'll jump through my list on this. You got a 320 foot addition to the northwest corner of the existing house behind the existing garage. Um it is within the 200t jurisdictional area from
mean high water of a potential vernal pool. Uh but the limits of work are located in a previously disturbed yard area which eliminates some of the the standards for vernal pools. Um, and the addition is separated from the potential
vernal pool by the existing house. Um, this is not my most There we go. We got it. Extra papers. I did uh I talked with uh the homeowner at the site visit about um
what the purpose of this was. He said they're looking to build an office. And I said, "Well, you may want to have some information about your septic system, you know, for the commission because, you know, it's not necessarily the standard isn't set by what your, you
know, desired end use is for the space. Um, and typically the commission would want to see that you wouldn't need a septic system upgrade with this addition. Um I did talk with the health agent about this as well and she said that you know these types of additions
need review by her office as well um in order to ensure the septic system is designed to handle flow as if the space were an added bedroom. Um she basically said it doesn't matter if somebody says it's an office could be a bedroom and that's sort of the way I I pitched it as
well is that it might be an office to you but if you sell the house next year and somebody converts it to a bedroom now it's a bedroom. Um, so we don't really have information on that. I emailed the applicant pretty late today just to ask if if he wanted to hold off until, you know, we could go through that kind of review with with the health
department. I think he would have to submit something to them on this and and go through their process. Um, so I mean the commission can have that discussion with him now and and talk it out or you can wait to
get more information on that. Um, basically KWPR standards on septic systems. Should a replacement system also constitute a substantial enlargement and increase in flow from expanded use of the existing system, the commission may require that the minimum 100 foot
setback distance be observed. Um, this property may not be eligible for an increase in septic flow. Um, so the commission approving an addition which would then require an increase in flow capacity would be difficult. Um, so I
think before the commission makes a decision, they need to have that information in front of them as far as whether there's already capacity there for an increased room. So just Matt on that one, we've we've
kind of discussed this a number of times, right? So if if you add a a bedroom or if you add what could be a bedroom, I expect that we're supposed to interpret that as increased inflow. Correct.
That's because it has the potential my understanding and that's that's the I think that is the way it's handled period is that um you know you have the systems rated for different flow rates and each
bedroom constitutes an increase in flow rate. So you have situations where somebody might have a septic system that's that's overbuilt for what they have for bedrooms and they have the capacity to add and in some cases they don't. Um, I think in this case, if let's say the septic system is designed
for three bedrooms and the house only has two right now and they're adding an office, technically that would be adding a bedroom, but the system can handle three. That shouldn't be something from the commission's end that um triggers a
problem. The problem would be the need to increase the system in capacity. So, if they are only rated for three bedrooms and they already have three and they're adding a fourth, the commission approving that addition is problematic if they can't move all of the septic
system components out of the 100. I know that we've we've looked at it differently in the past. What What brought you to to to claim that? No, I don't think I don't think it's been done in the past. It's always tied to um tied to the need to upgrade the system.
I'd like to have a comment when you get a minute. yet. Um, absolutely. Let me just finish my thought here. If we have an increase in flow, it's tied to to changing the number of bedrooms. So, you can't put an addition on, have it call it a bedroom
or have the health agent tell us that we're supposed to, you know, interpret this as an increasing flow potentially. The system could be totally overbuilt from day one if it wasn't approved for a a threebedroom. and it's a it's going to be a threebedroom moving forward of 3 to
four or 4 to 10 or whatever it is. Doesn't matter that they overbuilt the system. It's still an increase in the usage as it existed yesterday to when it's going to exist next year. So So what you're saying is
increase in usage regardless. You have essentially it's an increase potential for more flow going into the existing septic system. That's that's that's increase in flow definition, right? It's not just whether or not the system was designed or they
ran out of small tanks. It's it's Kingston. This the soil lets it run no matter what. It's still an increase in flow. So I I think that as we go through thinking these things through and I'm not saying I'm against this saying just from a perspective I think we have to
look at increase in flow as an increasing flow and decide if that increase is something that you know we can let slide in this case because it's so far away or and it's already disturbed or if it's something that we have to look a little bit more in because the rules kind of point us in
that direction. So right I I see your point. It's it's a harder case to make than the obvious of, you know, the regulations state that you can't, you know, increase the system substantially within 100 ft versus flow
is increasing. I mean, you can make that case for a lot of different things that just having more people on a property is going to increase the usage of the property, which has the potential to affect the wetlands. It's just a harder case. They could have they could have overdesigned the system knowing that
they were close to this potential vernal pool or whatever they were calling it back then and restricting it down to look well we'll let you go with three but you know and then they just overbuilt it. 15 years goes by they don't get to just add an addition without going through the process and
deciding whether or not it's something that we can permit based on the town's bylaws. Sure. That that's that's all I wanted to say. Uh Buzz, would you would you please? Yeah. And so I disagree with the entire dialogue you two just had 100% just for
the record. Uh first of all a bedroom has to meet certain criteria specifically two means of egress. This this addition does not have two means of egress. So therefore it does not meet the criteria for a bedroom. Secondly
can that no no you had your chance. Now this is my chance then you can rebut me. Secondly, most leeching fields were overbuilt. The board of health in the town of Kingston for years has required an 800 foot leeching field and depending
on the soil conditions is good for four or five bedrooms. Hold on, Buzz. I'm having a hard time hearing you. Can we get more volume on Buzz? All right. Go ahead. Sorry about that. All right. Can you hear me now? Much better. Yes. Yeah. So for years, the town of Kingston
has required that minimum 800 square foot leeching field be built for all houses regardless of bedroom count. And therefore, most of the houses in town have capacity for an additional bedroom that meets current title five
requirements, not requiring an upgrade of any part of the system to add an additional bedroom or sometimes two. So, I'm not sure how we got on this. We're the adjudicators of bedrooms, but I don't like where any of this is going for the record.
All right, Buzz. So, so I was going to ask you about the the means of egress. You're you're telling me that there's no windows on here that could be used as a means of egress because Oh, it specifically says two means of egress, which is a door, and it says additionally, the windows must meet the
egress requirements. I don't think that we need to get into this argument. Um, we need for the for the um people to look at this first. No, we do because they buzz, please. This gentleman
this gentleman has put forth a plan that says office and mudroom. If if tomorrow morning he move wanted to move 10 people into that den and do that, he could. I mean, we're on a very slippery slope here, right? But again, it's not it's not our
our daily work. We don't do this. is not important to us until it's done by somebody else. So, do you you're I'm saying put this aside until we hear more about table until the health agent. The health agent. Yeah. Is that a motion?
I'll make that a motion. So, dot if if I may you make a motion to continue until we hear back from the health agent. Absolutely. On the um current condition and capacity of the existing
suic um that subject system. Well, no. No. Nope. I'm sorry. Dod is Dodd has a floor right now. I'm asking if that's what you're saying. That's what I'm saying. Okay. So, we have a motion. We have a second by Maryland. We'll take a voice vote.
Okay. Dot. Yes. Marilyn? Yes. Brian? Yes. Megan? Yes. Jim? Yes. U Buzz? Absolutely not. Okay. So, not. So, the motion carries. It will continue until we hear back from the health agent.
For the record, that's not the direction we needed from the agent. Can we um we'll take this offline? Can you say you're continuing this to August 27th or I would suggest two weeks? Yeah, I think it's 27th, correct? Yeah.
Can we we'll amend and and maybe revote if that's okay with you, dot, can I amend your motion to include a two weeks? Yes. Continuence. Yeah, I have a motion. Amended a motion. Uh, do we have a amended second? Second. All right, we'll revote. Dot, yes. Marilyn, yes. Ryan,
yes. Megan, Megan's Yes. Jim, yes. Buzz, yes. So, motion passes. Um Um, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The hearing Try it. All right. I reopen. I now reopen. It's the time is now 7 o'clock. 7:01. I now reopen a uh hearing for the notice of intent for the proposed construction of
an addition and porch along the rear of an existing home within the 100 foot buffer zone to a uh BVW and the 200 foot riverfront area of an intermittent stream at 49 Old Mill Road. Um this is
section A. The applicant did not provide updated materials by submission deadline. Therefore, this meeting should be continued to August 27th, 2025. Matt, is there a section? That is section B.
Section B. Uh, do I have hear a motion? I'll make that motion. Second. Marilyn Dodd has a second. We'll take a a roll call. Dot. Yes. Marilyn, yes. Brian, yes. Megan, yes. Jay, yes. Buzz, yes. Thank you.
All right. All right. Now, we'll go back. We're doing 63 Smith Lane. Yes. Okay. I will now open a public meeting to discuss the request for certificate of compliance for 63 Smith Lane. Does that agent have any comments?
Not sure if we have a representative here tonight on that. Uh, is there a representative for 63 Smith Lane? Please come forward. Maybe not. Hear not. Um yeah, we did a site visit on this the other day. Uh there are two separate
orders of conditions um issued there. Both of them under the local and the state. Um they're SEO370700 and 0841. And one of them was for
um aquatic vegetation management for invasive species. Um, that one didn't doesn't really need anything. We just it would be closing it out. I didn't see anything on site that was, you know, indicative that something went horribly wrong with that. I mean, it was years
and years ago. Um, and the other one was for an expansion of the parking lot area. And we did not see any major issues with the parking lot area. The only thing I really saw was there's a portion of the edge of the parking lot where there's a little bit of a burm and
then it goes down a hill towards the wetlands whether it's a I think it's a impounded section of stream that they call a pond. Um where it looked like the maintenance kind of is kind of beating the vegetation back and somebody comes and
blows mulch off a truck and it's kind of going further and further over the hill and down the slope. Um, I didn't see anything on the plan that or on the special conditions that indicated that they're doing anything wrong, but I will probably still recommend that they do
something to curb that, whether it's put signs up, conservation posts, or just talk to their landscapers and kind of allow that area to regrow natural vegetation to protect the downslope wetlands. Other than that, I didn't see any issue or reason why we would hold
anything up and recommend issuing those COC's. All right. Uh, still no applicant. Um, does the commission have any questions for Matt? Buzz.
No, that was a long time ago. Boy, we permitted that. Wow. Yeah. All right. Um, does the public have any comments on this? All right. So, uh, I'll hear a motion if anybody cares to offer. Do you want a motion to accept that
request? I would. There you go. Okay. All right. Um, so Matt, could you uh we both together or separate? Um, I don't know that it matters terribly much, but you could vote them separately
if there's any concern. Well, can I just make a combined motion, Marilyn, on a friendly amendment? Go for it. So, I'd like to make a motion to issue COC's for SE037-700 and SE037-8,
excuse me, SE037-0841. Second. Well, that's that's your motion. Do you accept this amendment? Okay. Do we hear a second? Second. All right. So, we have a motion. We'll give a second to Megan, please. Uh, and we'll take a a roll call. Dot, yes.
Marilyn, yes. Brian, yes. Megan, yes. Jim, yes. Buzz, yes. Okay, so that motion carries to issue the certificate of compliance for 63 Smith's Lane um for both state.
Okay. So, we're doing Elm Street. Yes. Okay. I will now open a public meeting to discuss a right of first refusal for the refusal for the property located at map 69 lot 19 on Elm Street. Uh Matt,
could you just a small clarification? We're not opening a public meeting on that. Just a discussion. Open it. We didn't post We didn't post anything on that. the record reflect that we are just discussing this.
Um, we received or the town received a chapter 61 writer first refusal notice of intent to sell for map 69, lot 19 on Elm Street. This is uh
one of the Marabet Farm properties that abuts the Wildlands Trust Sylvia Pond property. I think it's the the part that has the I don't know if it's a barn or big shed or something like that right on
the corner of Sylvia Sylvia Place Road and Elm Street. Um the notice that was received says it's being sold to someone for the purpose of building a
single family house. Um, it is a Grady site plan that shows the house being built outside of the buffer zone. It looks like I'm not sure if if there are stream buffers shown there or if there would need to
be. Uh, there's sort of a herring run thing there that has some concrete uh walls to it. So, I'm not sure from a regulatory standpoint how that works. Um the property owner approached me maybe two years ago at this point um saying he had paid attention to what happened with
the Win Street property. Told me they were looking to kind of move some stuff around and um asked if the town would have any interest in those parcels. Um, I told him that it wasn't likely that that we would, but that while in trust would probably have interest because it
abuts their property and they may have interest in either adding access to their property, maybe using the existing structure there for interpretive stuff or maybe they have interest in just making sure they have less neighbors on their properties, you
know, and dealing with encroachment issues and things like that. Um, I know Wild and Trust and the property owner had some discussions. I don't know where they went. Um, but I did let Wild and Trust know that we received this just because I know that they had interest in
the property. Um, I have not heard back. They indicated that they may be interested in it. Um, there are situations where the town can exercise their right of first refusal
and transfer that to a nonprofit. Um, that would ultimately, I think, be up to the board of selectman. If if Wildland's trust wanted to do that and the board was willing to do that, then that would be something they could do. Um, so I'm
not necessarily ready to kind of say anything to the commission as far as like, you know, they definitely do or don't or how the commission would even respond to that type of a thing. I mean, you have, I think, what's a a couple looking to I think a couple a
Kingston couple from what I know looking to build themselves a house on it. But um again, I don't know whether that's something that the commission wants to, you know, kind of
think about going forward and we can put this on an agenda for, you know, the 27th and, you know, have a more in-depth discussion then. But I wanted to make sure it was brought to the commission as soon as I could. We just got this, I
think, two days ago. Any questions? How big a property is it? Halfacre. And it's right along the street at the end of the street. It's the corner of um Yeah, it's the corner of Elm Street and Sylvia Place.
Is it the one with like the brook or stream or the Yeah, it's Bryant Mill Pond and there's a stream that connects to Su's Pond. It's part of I think the Furnace Brook Herring Run. that one.
So, yeah, definitely I think not something that the town wants ownership of. I don't think this is something I would ever bring to the commission and say, "I recommend we buy this. I see value in this." Um, the stream section and herring run area is um I believe off
of this property. So, it's not something from a strategic standpoint for improving fish passage even. that would be, you know, beneficial to the town. It's simply that one of our conservation partner organizations may have interest in this
property and may request that the town exercise their right of first refusal or they may not. Um, so I think it's probably best to put this on for the 27th. Um, and that would allow them time to get back to you. Yeah. And then I just, you know, I'll
ask I don't think we need to post a meeting on making a decision on something like this either. I think it's something the commission can discuss and and vote on without us needing to go through the effort of putting in the paper recommendations, right? Basically the the BOS is going to look for, you know,
the commission to weigh in on these types of things. So, um, so yeah, I think if we put this on August 27th, that should allow enough time for, um, you know, BOS to make a decision before the deadline. And just for the record, when was it
received? When's the deadline? It's dated August 5th, but we didn't receive it until I say it was two days ago. I believe we received it after we posted the 90 days this agenda. 120 for right of first refusal and then
90 days to to close the process. So yeah. All right. So So the clock has started. So yes, the day it's received, the clock starts. Um and I was asked to bring this to the conservation commission as quickly as possible so that the BOS could make a
decision as quickly as possible. But like I said, I think there there are factors there that I don't think it makes sense for the commission to to vote on any recommendation tonight. I think there's plenty of time. And was this 61 A 61B?
Yeah. [Music] Okay. Um so you don't need a a motion. Um we didn't open a meeting. No, I think we'll just put it on the as long as nobody has any other questions or anything. I think we'll put it on for for August 27th. Does anyone have any further questions
for Matt? No. Okay, Buzz. No, thank you. All right. Is that it? Matt, I apologize for the ring. Uh we'll uh we'll go to 44 Rabbit Road, please.
I think uh we have Jenna here, but just to bring the commission up to speed on this, at the last uh meeting about a month ago, I believe when this was discussed, the commission wanted me to issue an enforcement order and fines um or one citation, a $300
citation for the fireworks. um that was issued um and an enforcement order was issued under KWPR and WPA. And the enforcement order said that by today uh they needed
to remove the unpermitted floating dock from the pond and jurisdictional portions of the property, which I received evidence was done, and remove all cut vegetation or dumped landscape debris from jurisdictional areas by today. And I got photos indicating that
that was done as well. And they were supposed to provide an update from a professional engineer by today on letterhead. And we did receive that. Um the one thing that I think Jenna can can give us a update on tonight is um when we received that letter, the site visit
with the engineer hadn't happened yet. So she was going to send an update just letting us know how that went and what the plan was. So that wasn't part of this requirement, but I think, you know, I think if she's here, she can give an update on that. So, um, so there is no
need to issue fines starting tomorrow. All of that stuff was taken care of. That's good. All right. Did you say Jenny's here? Yeah, it looks like Jenna, do you have anything that you'd like to be heard on? Yeah, sure. Um, so the uh engineer did
come and do a site visit here. Um, about 2 weeks ago that that happened. Um, and I did actually just hear back from him today via email. Um, he was just wondering if I had any pictures of the build or anything and just a couple questions for us. Um, so I just got to
talk to my husband when he gets home so I can answer the engineer and hopefully we'll have some plans in the next two to three weeks. Does the commission have any questions, comments? All right. Do you want to push this
a month to allow for plans or do you want to What do you think? I would say I'd say a month's probably fair. Um, that would be September 10th,
right? You need a motion to move it or just straw. Um either way doesn't really matter. Everybody good with bringing this back on 910? Yeah. Okay. Set that up there.
Sure. J, you got that? September 10th. Yep, I got it. And let me know if you need anything in the meantime. Just any updates by email would be uh would be good. Awesome. Thank you.
Thank you. and then minutes for June 11th. All right. Has everybody had a chance to uh review the meeting minutes from June 11th? Is there any uh any edits required or is or perhaps is there a motion to approve
as they stand? So move second. All right. So we have a motion by Brian, second by Marilyn. We'll take a voice. Uh Dot. Yes. Marilyn. Yes. Brian. Yes. Megan. Yes. Jim Z. Yes. Buzz. Yes.
Thank you. One quick update if you if you like. Oh, please. Um, Winthre Street, Blackwater Memorial Forest. I I know. I get it. I'm getting emails and phone calls and I get it. It's been a long time. Um, the the
bridge build is going longer than than anticipated. Um, but it is one of them is completely done. and the other one is is well in progress and should be hopefully done shortly. Um I am going to schedule a couple of guided sitewalks
for when we reopen it so that I can kind of talk people through what was done there and why um and why it was a really good idea. Um the hydro seed that was put down did pretty well considering the conditions of like nasty drought and
heat when it was put down. Uh with the cover crop, there was a slight bit of erosion that the contractor is coming back to to fix up and and shore up until everything establishes. And then in September, they're going to be coming
back to do a final hydro seating. Um just because hydro seating in the middle of summer is not a great idea for success. Um so I expect everything is in terms of the restoration is looking great. It's greening up faster than I
would have thought. Um, you know, the general appearance of the place when it first opens up is not going to be, oh my god, this is amazing. It was torn apart with excavators um for the purposes of ecological restoration. So, there will be some time where um, you know, things
are going to be growing back in. I think by next year it should be like can't even tell that anything was done there. Um, ecologically, I think it hit a lot of the targets we were looking at. I think it's going to be great in the long term and be better and more accessible to people. Um, we are, I think, going to
try to move towards trying to get one accessible parking space in there. Um, we had a little mixup with the the trail reestablishment with the stone dust and everything where they didn't connect it to the parking lot and instead sprayed with the the restoration mix. Um, so
we'll have to deal with that, too. But it will be, if anything, more accessible than it was when we started this project. Um, and hopefully when all is said and done, a nice place where you can go around a nice flat walk around the former bog cell or you can
get up and go around the whole natural wetland and get up into the trails in the woods and and stuff like that. But I hear you all and it will be open very soon hopefully. And I'm not going to give a projected timeline just because I expected when I came back from vacation it was going to
be done and and it's very much not. Um, but the guy doing the bridges doing a great job. Um, and without him, I don't know that we would have been able to put bridges in there, period. Um, so it was really good the way it worked out. It's just taking longer than we than we
thought. So, apologies to the town. I know a lot of people like that property and want to get out there. I've been trying to suggest to everybody they go check out other properties and sending out the, you know, the maps and guides and stuff that we've made. Um, but yeah, soon. That's all I got.
All right. Well, thank you. Um, that's all we have. Is is would anybody else like to be heard? All right. Well, the next meeting will be held August 27th, 2025 starting at 6:30 p.m. The time is now 7:20.
Uh, do I hear a motion to adjurnn? Make that motion. Uh, we have a motion by Megan. Do I have a second? Second. Second by Marilyn. Uh, Dot. Yes. Marilyn, yes. Brian, yes. Megan, yes. Yes, bud. Yes. Thank you. All right. Motion uh carries.
Uh meeting is adjourned.