They have them now. Here you're recording. >> Good evening everyone and welcome to our Lacy Township Caucus meeting this evening, November 13, 2025. I'll read the statement and then we will rise.
>> Thank you. >> Adequate notice of this meeting has been given in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act pursuant to public laws 1975. said notice was advertised as Park Press and the beacon and was posted on the bulletin board showing the time and place of the meeting. We will say our
pledge of allegiance and have a moment of silence. >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. Item number one this evening, the Harrington Group Award presentation. We'll read a uh short statement of recognition and then ask the good people from the Harrington Group who have been with us for a few years now um to come
up to the microphone and say a few words. Lacy's Recreation for All Season video wins all seasons video wins national award. A video campaign the Harrington Group Incorporated produced for Lacy Township has won an award of distinction from the
Communicator Awards competition in the government or municipal campaign category. The Communicator Award is one of the largest and most competitive programs honoring excellence, effectiveness, and innovation in communication. The winning campaign recreation for all seasons is a
four-part video series which promoted Lacy Township's events and activities through 2024 and 2025. The videos reflected each season using colors and beautiful seasonal footage with Lacy's recreational director, Jim Wyland, on
camera. Thousands of entries were received and judged by the Academy of Interactive and Visual Arts. Fellow award recipients in this 31st year of the competition were Netflix, Apple, PepsiCo, the Walt Disney Company,
NBC Universal, Bank of America, and others. The Harrington Group has been producing award-winning video, social media, and print contests, uh, print content since 1993. They've won 99 national and international awards, including their first award of
distinction for Lacy Township in 2023 for a video on the township's successful response to the COVID pandemic featuring Mayor Peter Kurall. Some of the I did not write that. I
promise you I did not. We're on tape. >> I'm not buying that. >> Okay. Some of the Harrington Group's corporate clients, which they also uh which they also won awards for, include Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, Fizer, Merc, Trump Entertainment Resorts,
Lowe's Corporation, Sans Casino, Hollywood Casino, Daily News New York, and the Delaware River Port Authority. The regional award-winning client list includes LBI Arts and Sciences, the
Burrow of Shipbottom, the Seagar Grant Consortium, Remax of Long Beach Island, and the New Jersey New Jersey Division of Fish and Wildlife, and more. To learn more about the Harrington Groups, Harrington Group, Inc.'s work, or to
watch their awardwinning videos, visit the Harrington.tv. So, I'll ask the Harringtons to come up to the microphone and talk for a moment about this award. >> How wonderful. >> Thank you. >> Congratulations. >> Congratulations.
>> It looks like an Oscar. >> Look at that. It is it is my pleasure uh tonight to present to you the 2025 communicator award. It's the same award that we won back in uh 23 for as the
mayor said the uh uh COVID uh response video. Uh it was a wrap-up video saying everything that you guys did during COVID. Um and we were really pleased of course to win this. It's not an easy thing to win. It's judged by people in
our industry. It's an industry award and uh it's judged by people that do what we do. So, they're pretty harsh critics on on things. And um it's really difficult to win, especially when you're not doing a a real high-profile glitzy stuff like
the casino stuff that that we've done and things like that. Um it's for uh basic communication videos. It's really special to w to win one of these because it shows um that you're really going above and beyond in doing basic
communications and that's what and that's what we're doing in public relations. So, we were really happy to to to win this. We were so happy also to work with Jim. Yes. >> And have him on camera for this series. Uh it's a little bit different than the
series we're running right now, which you see outside. It's a calendar series that we're running right now where Jim's voiceover is in it. In this one, we had him on camera and we had um a real star of the whole series which was the
township and showing the beauty of the township throughout the four seasons. And it was that's why it was so much fun to work on because >> we were able to go out amongst the community and really show that season off for each one of these. And I think
that along with Jim on camera of course was one of the reasons why we we were recognized. Um we've had the pleasure of working with a lot of big people over the time um you know stars and celebrities and they're always fun to to
work with but working with Jim is uh such a pleasure. Uh we usually come in at the end of the day after he's been working all day and we throw a script in front of him and we put him on camera and we he has to read a teleprompter and do everything. It's not an easy thing to do and he does it and he does it really
well and it makes us really all look good because of what he does. >> So, uh the last thing I'd like to do is thank also everybody for um liking and sharing these videos and that's the other important thing is you you put
these up on your Facebook page and the purpose is to get people to see them so they know what's going on around town so they know what programs are there. they know what events are there and they can take advantage of of those things. Um, and by liking and sharing them, you help
promote that. It doesn't cost anything to do that. That's the great thing about when you run these things up on Facebook is it doesn't cost anything to do it, but when you get a couple thousand views of of a program, it helps people know what's going on. So, we're always pleased to to to see that and we thank
everybody that does that. And um I also have a little plaque that I'd like to present to Jim. >> Oh, how wonderful >> for his on camera. >> Oh, thank you. >> That's wonderful. >> That's that. Okay.
>> Wonderful. J >> very much. Very much. And And you guys get to keep the award. >> Oh, you should keep that. >> I have one. >> Keep myself, too. I got keep Jim can keep the Emmy in his office.
>> Yes, >> but it is yours. So, >> right. >> My wife would like to take a picture. >> Very much appropriate. >> Move that. Um I was just going to say let's move that out of the way. >> Come on. >> All you guys
Everybody's in part of the >> Yes, ma'am. >> I'm already telling >> Yeah, I can tell Peggy had great mind. Wendy gave me a lot of permission to do that. >> You get next to Pete. Get next to Pete. Get next. >> You're going to have to get close, everybody.
>> All right. >> My turn. Oh boy. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Congratulations. >> And you can keep the box too. >> Wonderful. What wonderful night >> mayor if I may?
>> Yes sir. >> Okay. So I want to tell a little story about these Dr. Hawland his group. Um, I was the mayor and I was sitting in the office where Amy sits now and the phone rings.
She knows where this is going. And they said, "Would you take this call?" And I said, "Sure." It was a cold call. She pitched me on this whole thing and I made an appointment. >> Well, then I had to go down and tell Veronica
>> that I made an appointment. >> I don't know. This is the part you don't know about. >> And she looks at me and she goes, "You did what?" >> And we had a wonderful appointment. >> Yes. >> Which led to all of this and we were so
happy that you are part of the Lacy Township family. >> That's right. >> Thank you. Yeah. Really? That's wonderful. >> Wonderful. >> Tim always comes to me with, "I have this idea." Oh, no. >> That was about seven years ago. >> Yes, it was. Yes, it was.
>> And James, in public, great work. Like I tell you, in private, I'm proud to have you and I know I speak for everyone up here. You're a fine asset to our town. >> It was funny because at the last meeting I said how wonderful his voice is. You know, we really we're fortunate because you speak so well.
>> You got to send a tape out to Hollywood. You get a lot of workers, >> but also to the Harrington group. Listen, worked with you many times and I have to tell you, you make it very easy for us to do what we have to do. When we're at events, you help us and so when you're inexperienced at this stuff, it's
nice to have people who just walk you through it, you know, just walk you through. >> We appreciate it. >> Right. Thank you. >> Fantastic. Any other comments this evening? >> Good. >> Very good. I think we'll close it. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Move it. >> Second.
>> All in favor? I >> Okay, we'll move right into our township meeting. >> Yeah, we can do that. >> You guys can go if you want. >> Give a quick break. >> Yeah, let them head out the door on that right there. >> Get some dinner, some happiness, some
holiday cheer. one. >> Huh? >> Open that up. >> Oh, no. Those are just my >> No, no, no. Don't worry. >> Don't freake me out. >> Okay, James. >> All right. Ready? >> All right. Go ahead.
>> Okay, James. Here we go. >> Statement. Adequate notice of this meeting has been given on in accordance with the O open public meetings act pursuant to public laws in 1975. said notice was advertised as Park Press and the beacon and was posted on the bulletin board showing the time and place of the meeting. We saluted our
flag and had our moment of silence. We'll jump right in to number one. Resolution 2025-297 authorizing a certificate of completion to the Lacy family apartments. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing a certificate of completion
to Lacy family apartments for block 1837.01 lot 8.08. Second, >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenneth, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Laay, >> yes. >> Mayor Perola, >> yes. Item number two, resolution 2025-298,
authorizing the filing of a grant application with the ProNJ Trust. Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey, authorizing the filing of grant applications with the Pro New Jersey Trust for the Bayside Beach GR project and the Bayside Beach Shoreline
Stabilization Project and authorizing the township administrator and municipal clerk to execute the applications and related documents. >> Move it. >> Second, >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laay, >> yes. >> Mr. Pennis, yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mayor Kerata, >> yes. Item number three, resolution 2025-299
authorizing the ex execution of an amendment to the contract for Sunrise Boulevard East and Bobcourt Lane Road improvement project. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, authorizing the execution of an amendment to the contract with Swift and
Sun for the Sunrise Boulevard East and Bobcort Lane road improvement project. Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mayor K. >> Yes. Number four, resolution 2025-300
authorizing the execution of an amendment to the contract for the Cranberry Hill phase 1 road improvement project. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the execution of an amendment to the contract with Swift and Sun for the Cranberry Hill phase 1 road
improvement project. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kennes. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kolo. Yes. Item number number five, resolution 2025-301 authorizing the execution of an amendment to the contract with the Lacy
Township Board of Education for the provision of crossing guards. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the execution of an amendment to the agreement with the Lacy Township Board of Education for the provision of crossing guards. >> Move it. Second. >> And this is just to adjust for um the
crossing guards have a union contract. It was settled. So the former shared service agreement with the school reflected an different hourly rate than what was actually settled. So that's why we have to adjust it for the next two years of the contract with the school. >> Thank you.
>> Mr. Lang, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mayor K. >> Yes. Item number six, resolution 2025-302 authorizing the the execution of an interlocal services agreement with the
Lacy Township Board of Education for WLTS TV21. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the execution of an interlocal services agreement with the Lacy Township Board of Education. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. Lurang, >> yes.
>> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mayor Keruto, >> yes. And number seven, resolution 2025-303 awarding a contract to Nick Lex Construction for the community development block grants housing
rehabilitation program. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey awarding a contract to Nick Lex Construction LLC under the terms and conditions of the community development block grant to provide a housing rehabilitation program. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kennes. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. Perola. >> Yes. Item number eight, resolution 2025-304 authorizing an electronic tax sale. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey
authorizing the tax collector to hold an electronic tax sale. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kenn. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes. >> Mayor Keruto. >> Yes. And number nine, resolution 2025-305
establishing a service charge for tax sale notices. Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean, state of New Jersey, estab establishing a service charge for the mailing of tax sale notices. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes.
>> Mr. Jay, >> yes. >> Mayor Kto, >> yes. >> It number 10, resolution 2025-306, authorizing the tax collector to cancel taxes due to a disabled veteran tax exemption. Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New
Jersey, authorizing the tax collector to cancel 2025 taxes due on a property granted the 100% disabled veteran exemption and refund the resulting credit balance. >> Move it. >> Second, >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald,
>> yes. >> Mayor Killo, >> yes. It number 11, resolution 2025-307 opposing Senate Bill S4736. Resolution of the Township of Lacy, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, opposing Senate Bill
uh S4736 preempting certain local zoning and enhances the ability of religious and nonprofit organizations to convert certain property to inclusionary developments with affordable housing. >> Second, >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes.
>> Mr. Lay, >> yes. >> Mayor Ker, >> yes. Item number 12, resolution 2025-308, authorizing the refund of deposit monies. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State, New Jersey, authorizing the refund of deposits held
for the use of municipal facilities. >> Second, >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenneth, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mayor Certo, >> yes. Item number 13, resolution 2025-309, authorizing the payment of township bills. Resolution of the township of
Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the payment of township bills. Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Kennis, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mary Certo, >> yes. Wait a minute. >> Mr. McDonald, do you have an extension? >> I'll do my normal extension. >> Okay. 035.
>> Yes. Get out of here. >> Did I? Because I got it up here. >> Okay. Normally, you got it. Item number 14, month of reports. For the month of October, the Department of Public Works collected road opening permits in the amount of $7,290,
recycling commodity in the amount of $1,153, and tire deposits in the amount of $132, and the municipal clerk's office collected receipts for the month of October in the amount of $4,143.89. Motion to accept the reports as read.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> In favor? >> M number 15. Motion to approve caucus meeting minutes from October 23rd, 2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pennis. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laay. >> Abstain. I wasn't. >> Mayor Ker.
>> Yes. Item number 16. Motion to approve township meeting minutes from October 23rd, 2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kenneth. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lee. >> Abstain. I wasn't here. >> Mayor K. >> Yes. Item number 17. Motion to approve
executive session meeting minutes from October 23rd, 2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kennes. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliana. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Abstain. >> Mary Curt. >> Yes. Item number 18. Motion to approve membership in the Forest River Volunteer
Fire Company for Joseph Emission. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Comments from the committee this evening. We'll start this evening this evening's comments with Deputy Mayor Kennet. Thank you, mayor. Just want to thank everybody that took the time to
vote this past election day, and I just want to wish the best of luck to the newest school board members. Um, I also want to acknowledge um the other candidates that ran for election, Josh Han, Helen Dela Cruz, Barry Bender, and on the school board, Jack Conny. It's very hard to um it's hard than it looks
to run for any type of election. You put yourself out there. So, I just want to acknowledge our effort, and those are my comments. Thank you, ma. >> Thank you, Committee McDonald. >> Thank you. I I also want to congratulate Lacy Township. We have 55% of eligible
voters come out to vote and that's that says a lot. Um I want to congratulate Steve and Peter um for winning and Mrs. Dela Cruz for running a great race and she gave a great speech at church on Sunday and that was good Helen. Very
nice. Um also I want to go over a couple of things here. I see something here that I had to laugh at. Bobcourt Lane. Steve, you probably played in the Bobcourt basketball league. >> No, I didn't play basketball. Baseball, little league.
>> Did you play in it, Bobby? Bob? >> No, but my wife was a coach, >> right? >> I was too short to play basketball. >> You were too short to play? >> Yes. >> So, I was active in the Bobcourt basketball league and Charlie Ziggler was the president and he says, "Tim, you got to come with me." I said, "Where are
we going?" He go see Mrs. Bobcourt. and I went, "There's really a Bobcourt." And I don't know if she's still alive or passed away. Um, but we that was the year we honored uh her husband and I was I was shocked that there was actually a
Bobcourt. Um, the next Lex construction housing rehabilitation program. That's one of my favorite programs because we take houses where people don't have the money to fix them up. We give them some grant money. They have restrictions put on them
and the house gets fixed up and it's it's it takes a plight into a nice house and we do that with some apartments, don't we? >> Just houses. >> Just houses. Okay. Okay. So, there we are with that. Um, and I see that for River Volunteer Fire
Company's adding somebody. Joseph emission. This is something was brought up about a year ago. They have changed the regulations on what you have to do to become a volunteer fire company. It's absurd.
It's 270 hours before you can get on the truck or answer a call. Now, if you're a 31, 32 year old man with a family, you can't do it because it's all weekends,
270 hours. Look, I get it. If you want the captain, the lieutenants, the engineers to they've got to have advanced training. But the guys that are just starting out, this is bad. And what what we're headed towards this, so
everybody knows, probably in about 10 years, we'll have paid firemen from the county. That's what's going to happen. There's no other way around it. >> That's all I have, Mayor. >> Thank you very much, Committiana. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I just wanted to
say congratulations obviously to the both both of you and also to the folks that did run. It's uh it's it's not easy getting out there and uh putting yourself out there and I you know I appreciate people getting stepping up whether it's for the school board or the township committee. You got to get more
young people involved too. It's important to keep them active in it. Um, and just to say on the note of our firemen, they had 103 calls since um, October 1st. That's a lot of
calls that these fire folks go out on. And uh I I'll I'll just keep saying the same thing is we just need to make sure that we whether we purchase a ticket from them or 50/50, whether we throw some coins in their hat, whatever it be,
anytime they do something, we should support them because they're putting their time out for us free of charge. So that's all. Mayor, >> thank you very much. Committeeman Laray. >> Yes. First, I want to start off with uh
especially this week uh thanking the veterans and their dedication uh to this country because >> Thank you, Bob. >> As we're congratulating everybody for the election, win or lose,
we wouldn't be able to do this if those men and women weren't out there uh fighting for us every day to give us this uh unique opportunity. I want to uh congratulate Steve and and Pete for their uh win this election.
Helen, Josh, I want to commend you for running an excellent campaign. And this is very important. This is more for Josh than Helen because Helen's been involved forever. Everybody loves Helen. Josh, I say it repeatedly.
Please, please, please stay involved. We need younger people. you grew up in town and it's almost getting weird to say when we say younger people. I'm to the point now where I'm happy we're younger people are 40 and 50. Uh
because we're all getting older whether we like it or not. But please, you, your friends, family, stay involved cuz win or lose, the involvement is key. It's just like the volunteers.
They're getting harder and harder to get. It's getting harder and harder to get people to run. But it's volunteers and the people that put forward that make the towns as good as they are. We've been a fortunate town throughout the years with volunteers. It's getting harder to get them, but volunteers have made a difference all through the town,
whether it's through town government, school board, or any other uh groups in this in this uh township. I I had a unique opportunity this month. Uh the mayor had another obligation and I got to present a young man um a
proclamation for becoming an Eagle Scout which is a very very difficult thing to do. There's a lot of hours between himself and his family to get there. Uh the gentleman, young man is uh Nolan Downing. And what made this extra special, which
I hate to even admit this, he belongs to the same troop I belong to over 50 years ago. uh Troop 56, which has been in this town just about 60 years. But uh >> I just wanted to publicly congratulate this young man on his uh accomplishment
of becoming an Eagle Scout. >> The school board, we got three new members, Megan Forney, Brandon Hurley, and Stephen I'm going to screw this up for sure. >> Gowen is it okay? I want to welcome them
to the school board. I wish them a lot of luck. I've met two out of the three of them. Uh very impressive young individuals. And one thing I'm going to ask publicly, you
are new, hopefully you're watching this, is please try to keep this governing body more informed than we have been in the past. We may not have any power or that much say over what the school district does,
but there's nothing worse than sitting up here and trying to govern the town and have no clue of what the group that controls the biggest part of our taxes are. So, this my number one thing is
please keep us informed. And I've been harping on this all year long. Um, I keep getting told they're they're improving it. Um, I had a s I think a couple of us had a surprise just recently because their business
administrator is moving on and we are getting informed. We got informed from a Saturday morning breakfast at the diner. So, we shouldn't be finding things out like this. um conversations after the
fact. And then, you know, luckily uh our business administrator reached out to verify that what we hear because not everything you hear is true. And this has happened more than once. So, please just keep us in the loop. We take enough
on the chin for you guys. And with the business administrator, I think it's time whether it's this just a suggestion But there's a lot of small towns around us. Maybe we should start looking at some shared services. >> We talking this business administrator
or the school's business administrator. >> The school's business administrator. >> Yeah. >> No, the schools. Okay. >> No, you're not going nowhere. >> I'm just curious. >> No, no, the school's business administrator. No, the district really because there's a lot of small districts around us and maybe it's time to look at
shared services. I want to commend our town for how all these groups during the election picked up the signs afterwards. Every town you go to around us, they're still the signs are still up.
>> They're deplorable. >> Within one to two days, this town was spotless. So, thank you. >> I have to commend everybody for that. >> Thank you everybody for getting out there and picking up the signs. >> Absolutely. And that's all I got for tonight. Mayor, >> thank you very much. >> Good job.
>> Great job. Great job. So, I will start as uh my colleague, Mr. Laray, did and thanking the veterans. We had a wonderful ceremony right out front. Our ninth legislative uh district was here uh and has a uh had a a great proclamation that's in the back. We'll find a nice home for it somewhere in
this town hall. Um but it was nice to see them. We we advocate at the local level. They're advocating at the state level. So, very few individuals more important and near and dear to a lot of people than our veterans. So, grateful for them and their service and their
blood and their sweat and their spine because I'm sitting here because they were there. So, thank thank you for that. Um, glad to see uh Mrs. Dela Cruz and Mr. Han here tonight. I want to uh thank them for uh ran a great race. Um,
and it's not easy and appreciate uh that. And Helen, you've had a wonderful reputation in our town and as a nurse for many, many years. And uh it's an honor to know you and I appreciate that. Um, and I mean that. Um, and for the residents that uh came out and and uh
supported Stephen and I in a a resounding way, I'm very very grateful. We'll go to the foot of the cross for you. And that was a huge vote of confidence. So um, thank you both. and uh just appreciate everything you did. And Josh, I know you had a large hand in
our Halloween effort. Uh and uh again, appreciate both of you. So, thank you very very much for for being there for our town. Uh I want to talk uh a little bit about a couple of things. Uh I've attended a couple of meetings in the
past couple of years. So, this summer we're going to have the World Cup in New Jersey and in Philadelphia. So, it's going to go from June 13th to July 19th. We take quick little vacations as Americans. Europeans travel for about three weeks at a clip. So, we have a
confluence of events here this summer. We're going to have our summer at the Jersey Shore. We're going to have our 250th anniversary. We're going to have a game in Philadelphia on July 4th, 2026 for the World Cup. We're going to have a a championship game on July 19th at
Metife Stadium. So we will be front and center for planet earth. There is going to be a mass amount of humanity here. If we do it right, if emergency services do it right, I'll be at the um this is one of
many meetings moving forward. As mayor this Monday, OEM, our office of emergency management is meeting. You talk uh anecdotally, qualitatively to real estate agents. Things are being sold out. Airbnbs already. So there's an opportunity for a lot of revenue if it's
done right. So it won't just be in New York and Philadelphia. It's going to be everywhere. Um and there's economic opportunities abound. NJ.com wrote just a couple of days ago, Jersey Shore Town, Oceanport, New Jersey, about 41 or so miles north of
here, will reap a benefit from Netflix setting up at Fort Monmouth of $65 million over the next 30 years. About two million bucks a year. So there there are opportunities there in the tourism space. It shouldn't always be, like I say, and I'm going to keep looking into
this and pushing for it. It shouldn't always be Seaside Heights, beautiful place. Point Pleasant, beautiful place. Delaware Water, it should be us, too. We should have a piece of that pie. There's no town that can't use extra revenue. We have a new governor. I wish Governor
Elect Cheryl the very, very best, and I want her to succeed. Um, but as I read on and I I heard Mr. McDonald comment the other night. I was at a one of our meetings on Tuesday night and he says he reads a lot and he does. And so one of the things I I read
was u the title of the the news story was the great escape. New York and New Jersey lose 687 billion dollars in resident income between 2013 and 2022 as high earning residents flee for lower cost of living states. And it shouldn't
just be the f-word that keeps family here. And it's not the word you might be thinking of when you talk to your to your people over these holidays. Family. Family. Everyone has everyone has an exit schedule here for when my daughter's done with high school. When
my son gets married, when I want people to come here and love it because it's a beautiful place and I would bleed for it. I like it here. In particular, I like Lacy Township. Um I like our seasons. I want it to work here. But I will tell you I have genuine concerns
because if Governor elect Cheryl is indeed an extension of Governor Murphy, we will have trouble with our schools. We will have trouble with taking money from certain locations and funneling it to other locations. We'll have trouble
with additional affordable housing. I don't know if she will support um any infrastructure that we want to put or that other people I should say not we other people want to see in the plant at Wholettech. Um
I'm for business. I'm for I'm for supporting our families. I'm for revenue and I think that we can do it environmentally and economically the right way. Um, so I would ask genuinely for Governor Elect Cheryl to not just take a look at Ocean County, which was a
big red blotch on the silhouette of New Jersey that did not support her. Govern us fairly. Think of our kids. Don't take money from our school districts. Leave our tax money here that's built on our main street and our our wherever your your home is, a Pines, Cranberry,
Oakfield, doesn't matter, and leave it here because we earned it and it's for our kids. So, I will advocate for that. Um, I'm I'm hopeful. I'm I'm I'm cautious. I'm trying to be optimistic. Um, I never
qualified whether I helped somebody or not here or at my health department where I'm in the good gainful employee of the county health department. I'll help you, but what's the letter after your name? Never once in my life. So, help me God. That's not the way I roll. So, I'm hopeful that Governor Elect
Cheryl is fair across the board. If she ever calls me and she needs help with something, I'll be there to try to give her any counsel I can because it's in our best interest that she is successful. I want her to be fair with us. I want her to visit us.
>> So with that, I'll close my commentary and I'll open the floor. >> If I could just have for a minute. I think with Jim um from recreation, he probably forgot to share this. So I'll I'll gladly share it. the 9th annual Lacian Lights. The registration begins on November 5th and registration ends on
December 1st. Houses must be decorated by December 6th. So, the opportunity is there to be scanned if anyone is out there interested. >> Thank you so much. >> I realized he left it here and he didn't get to say anything. So, >> I appreciate you. I I did not think of
that either. So, thank you. >> No problem. >> Comments from the Yes, ma'am. Um, I think Regina had her. Well, let's let's have Mrs. Dela Cruz. >> Come on, Helen. >> Mrs. Dela Cruz. >> Helen, >> please come up. You want me to lower the microphone for you?
>> Barry's not here tonight. >> Yeah, there's Barry. >> Thank you very much. >> Oh, you're welcome. Don't snag me yet. I'm not good at this. >> Even the jump shot. How about that? >> We just praying. How about that? >> That's cool, brother. taking something
out of it. >> It's not a great picture. >> Yeah. >> With that, >> I think so. Thank you very much, Mayor. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, everybody. >> Good evening. >> All of you.
Mayor Certolo, and Deputy Mayor Stephen Kennis. I came here mainly tonight to congratulate you for your reelection. God's blessings to you. The night of our
election, Mr. Jhan and I went in each of our cars and drove to Captain Zen and we wanted to congratulate you at that time and shake your hands, but you had left. >> I'm sorry about that. I thought we stayed there a fair amount of time.
Steve, >> I apologize for that. Not today. Gone. >> No, I was there. I was there. I was >> You were there for a while. The family was there. So, >> the the place looked deserted at that point. But anyway, here I am. Congratulations to both of you. >> Yeah.
>> And best wishes to all of you. And >> thank you, >> Mr. Lorenas. You're right. Uh we need young people. Don't forget our community. We have a big percentage of seniors. >> Yes. And one of the reasons among many that I run is to remind my fellow
retirees, seniors, that in our life, regardless of what age we're in, what stage we are in this life, there are all the Lord is not done with us, there are always new frontures to explore,
higher mountains to climb. So again, congratulations to you and um to all the voters of Lacy, those who voted for Mr. Josh Han and I, thank you
so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love you. I love you. I love you. And to those who did not vote for us, I love you, too. >> Good evening, Venice. Very nice. Thank
you. >> If I may, Mr. McDonald, >> I have a great story about Helen. Um, when Bob and I ran two years ago, um, she was in the Philippines for the her sister had passed away
>> and I'm walking around my house and it's right after the election and my phone rings and I don't recognize the number, but I answered anyhow. And it was Helen calling me from the Philippines >> to congratulate me. What a class act.
>> What a class act. And I Helen that that struck right in my heart and I want to thank you for that. >> That's right. >> Very nice. >> Wonderful. Thank you. >> And I just want to make it one quick. Helen, the one thing that you should be very proud of
is no matter where you go around town, unless you just got here the last couple years and you don't know anybody, but you are one person that is so well wellresected. You've been involved so many years
>> and I no matter who you talk to, no matter what letters behind their their name or whatever, I have never ever heard a negative word about you. >> You are a lady
that has been respected and well loved throughout this township. and thank you for all you have done and thank you for your words tonight. >> Very nice, Helen. >> Miss Dela Cruz, a nurse, the backbone of our health care system.
>> There's no doubt about that. >> Any other? Yes, Mr. >> Senza. 4T 10 4' n. That's about right. Okay. Um, I think this will stay. So, uh, Regina Desenza, Sunset Drive, Sunrise Beach.
This past week, I received a phone call from the Deputy Attorney General's office, and it wasn't a social call. Today, I received my subpoena that I am being called as a witness in the Razie Consolidated BOE ethics case hearing against Sha Geodano. So tonight, I just
wanted to let Miss Juliano know that those two other cases are still open and still costing the school district money for Gioano's legal fees, which are now well over $200,000. In November 2019, I was supporting non-incumbents for school board. That
election night in November 2019, I was assigned to visit the Murray Grove polling site as a volunteer to collect the machine tapes for Team 147, which was also known as Razi, Marquetello, and Amato. I was perfectly allowed to do so.
In fact, any citizen can come into a polling site and request machine tapes at that time. I arrived at Murray Grove at least 15 minutes before the close of the polls on December 13, 2019. Nearly six weeks after the election, Miss
Juliano decided she had a problem with me and my request that fateful night. She never reported her alleged issue to the board of elections. Instead, Sha Giodano asked her to write a statement about me for his ethics ethics charges against me after he lost that bid for
reelection. And this is what she wrote. And I believe I gave you all a copy of this back in June. To whom it may concern, I was unsure about what I was unsure what to do about this. So, I decided to advise the board of education. On 11:519 at 8:00 in the
evening, Regina D walked into the polling place that I worked at, saying that she was there to pick up copies of the tally sheets for the board of ed. Peggy, I'm sorry, Regina, but you will have to go to town hall for that. Her Regina, no, I don't. I have the right to
pick them up here. And who is Veronica to say otherwise? Peggy, me. I explained my position, but proceeded to make them for her. Regina her left and call or text Gavin Rossy who left a message on my husband's phone about how rude I was. I am sharing
this information because I believe that this behavior is very unbecoming of a board member. Sincerely, Mrs. Peggy Sue Giuliano dated 121319. Well, dear Miss Juliano, thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, the ninth commandment. But when you
attempted to testify against me at my ethics hearing on February 14, 2024, you did just that. Never in a million years did I expect you to do that to me. Thank God the judge and my lawyer saw through all the false testimony that day, and my
alleged violation was dismissed. That one hearing alone and paperwork cost the school district over $5,000 in legal fees. The entire case against me was four alleged violations, and three were fully dismissed. The first two almost
immediately your allegation. The third took a hearing and the whole situation was false. Yes indeed I did come into Merry Grove that fateful night at 7:45 not 8 and asked you directly for the machine tapes for the two districts at
that site for team 147 Razie Maratello and Amato. I said the names at least three times to make it very clear who sent me to get them. I addressed you specifically because I had worked with you at that site as a pole worker previously with you and I knew you
considered yourself to be the site supervisor, no one else. I had collected machine tapes for 10 to 15 years prior for various candidates. You were the first person ever to deny me those tapes. And do you know what the two words were that set me off that night?
You told me, Veronica said, that no additional tapes could be printed. Since when do the pole workers work or take such orders from the township clerk? Your pole worker paycheck comes from Scott Kabella, the county clerk. And that's when I became rude right back at
you. I stood my ground and I said, "I'm not leaving without them." And I think I offered you the chief's phone number if you wanted to call a cop. I knew I wasn't doing anything illegal or irregular. People come into the polling sites to collect tapes for the Republicans to run down to the captain's
inn where you all have your big victory parties on election night. I know after a long day and night, everyone wants to go home, but I knew it only takes about one extra minute to print an extra tape. And I also knew that the request had to be made before the polls close and the
machines are locked. You tried to tell the judge at my hearing that I asked you to open locked machines. I would never do that knowing it was against the law to reopen any machine for any reason on election night. And why am I doing this now? Because I had to wait nearly six
years for the dust to settle on Mr. Gdano's case. I was just informed by the same deputy attorney general that called me, I need another minute, that his appeal at the Supreme Court level was just recently denied finally on October
28th, 2025. This whole bit was to get me off the school board. I was a thorn in Mr. G. Odano's side because I don't take orders. He hoped I would cry and resign from the board when I got served with the ethics charges. He was plotting to do this to me for a year. Giodano also
attempted to investigate his fellow schoolboard candidates during 2019 Razie and Marcatello with the school district's attorney. His lifelong friend just happened to be Chris Subupsy and they played football together at Lacy High School. Sean got very angry.
>> I'm not quite sure why this has to continue at this point. >> You don't want to hear anymore. Five minutes are up. >> All right. All right. You'll get yours. >> Regina, it's funny that you mentioned this and you bring this up because we got a complaint about you from this recent election and how you treated some of the poll workers. I'm not going to
release who, but they and we >> I wasn't mean. I was very nice to everyone. >> We did get a complaint from a board worker and they were and we told them to file a complaint with the county for >> And did they? I have no idea if they filed a complaint with the county about how you came in and how rude you were. So >> rude to who? >> I'm not going to release the name. You
will have to >> Oh, never mind. Got it. No problem. That was connected. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Any other comments? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Just state your name if you could. >> Uh Alisa Waller, Crestwood Drive,
Crooked River. Can you hear me? >> Waller. >> Waller. Okay. >> Thank you. So, um, I was just listening to everything you were saying tonight. Before I want to start, what I really want to say is you've been talking about veterans and
all these cool events that are coming up and putting the F-word out, which was family. Um, I was thinking Fork River, but same difference. Family, Fork River. Um, I'm a longtime residence between Beachwood and Lacy. Uh, my dad uh worked
with Mr. Kenneth's dad alongside years ago. Um, Mayor Corporation was part was around here. So, I'm very familiar with the landscape and uh you had mentioned the John Parker Memorial and what you wanted to put up for him, a bronze cast
sculpture, which is fantastic. He's been around a long time and now he's gone. But we're using taxpayer money to do that for this gentleman. He's >> just let me interrupt. that was done it that's at the OCOA not township.
>> Okay. But either either way, um my point being is that we want to recognize our history and you specifically pointed out our veterans and the Warden House over here uh just and someone from the community can correct me if I'm wrong is
one of the last standing homes of a Civil War veteran uh who survived the Andersonville prison, which was one of the largest and deadliest of the CI Civil War military uh prisons. Um, it was a it's a memorial. The house
specifically should be a memorial and is a memorial to uh I mean the prison is a memorial to all those American prisoners from the veteran war. So this house is one of the remaining homes of a veteran.
So I think that we should consider Tulsa, Oklahoma is a perfect example. I went to visit the outsider house, which might seem a little friv frivolous, but this gentleman turned that house into a home museum. If
you've never been there, it's the most wonderful thing. Uh that could be something that we do for that house rather than tearing it down and turning a quick turning it into a quick check, which is the last thing that our town really needs. Um, that house is a
long-standing structure of our town and the history goes way back and Babe Ruth was there. They hunted in that farm. Um, that's a history that we want our schools to be telling our students and they'll be able to walk around our town and see for real. So, consider turning
it into a outsider house um a museum that people can walk around and visit. Second thing, the community hall used to be the place where veterans met until it was taken away from them, I believe. And that's a thing that you
could turn back into a place where people gather after they visit the warden house. Problem is solved for our town. Family and Fork and River are back. Last thing, I watched the meeting last week um and Kenneth spoke. You spoke
about yourselves and all these wonderful things that you stand for. Peggy, all you did was talk about someone else. I'm part of the National Organization of Women. I'm a member. You have your floor. You should be talking about more
about you. Uh because last week they really stood out by what they believed in and what they stood for. And you talked more about other people. And I felt like there's so much that you stand for. I remember you with my son. I'm just saying things about you. Uh I feel like you could have said more positive
things like you know >> I was talking about Jim our our >> No, I'm not I'm not doubt I'm not hashing you. I'm saying that I wanted to hear more about you. >> Oh, >> they talked a long time on the meeting. >> Well, because it was their night if you want to use that expression. You know, if like I would talk about myself
>> and what goes on in this town. I mean, I'm the liazison to the police department, the fire department, the EMS. So, I I I do >> I know and >> I baseball coach. >> Yes. But >> so anyways, I just wanted to point out I wanted to hear more about you. That was my point. I wasn't trying to trash what
anyone was saying. I just saying >> I I just remember, you know, back in the day. >> Um and oh, and the other last thing, 35 seconds. Uh the other thing in the meeting, you talked about the Fork River Mountain Land that was bought by the state, I believe. Is that what you said? The county.
>> The county. >> Is that open space? Do you even know what they're going to do with it? I'm not just want to leave it there. The county makes purchases periodically all around our county to for protect um what's it called? The it's a preserved land acquisition. What's the exact
>> No, no one's ever going to build out this preserve land. >> You're making me forget. >> Ocean County Lands Trust. Ocean County Natural Lands Trust, >> right? They're going to they're going to save it. Yeah. So, this is a portion. So, they've already purchased 8,000 acres there where the mountain is located. This was an additional 100
acres that were adjacent to it that's attached to it. So instead of letting it go to a third party, they picked it up. And yes, you can make arrangements via the county of ocean because it's run by the parks department to go out there to tour the mountain um via on foot or
bicycle and um recreation does in cooperation with the county uh do several bus trips out there with some of our locals who are very familiar with the the mountain and give tours of it. >> Cool. >> Yeah. Nice. Thank you. >> Thank you for your time. >> Other comments this evening?
>> Seeing none, make a motion to close the floor. >> Second. >> Mr. Han. >> Oh, I'm sorry, sir. >> I did not see you over there. >> Oh, I do like your mustache. >> Um, so Josh Han Fork and River. Um, first time getting up and speaking in
front of you all. This is al a little bit, you know, it is intimidating on this side, but um, wanted to congratulate you both on your win. Thank you for a good campaign. Um, I learned a lot this election. I learned
a lot about myself. I learned how a little bit unsettling it is to see your face 10t tall on Lacy Road. Um, >> it's a good picture. >> Um, I learned a lot about my neighbors. Not just the people that live next to me, but all of the people that I spoke
to in town. I did have a quite a few conversations with people, random people I would never have spoken to before um about things that they were interested in, things that they weren't interested in. Um so it it was very good for me to kind of get out and and meet my neighbors in that sense. Um so
congratulations. Thank you for the the opportunity and and being able to to to run this past uh season. I also want to separate stepping away from that, I want to put out a massive thank you to the Lisa Township Police Department for their efforts on Halloween. Um, they
blocked off the north side of Lake Maragget Drive with uh cones. They stopped blocked off parking so people couldn't park there for safety for people trick-or-treating. I get about a thousand trick-or-treaters at my house every year. >> It's remarkable. >> Um, like pictures of my front yard,
pictures of the street. It's It looks like a 1980s like movie. How many people there are like walking in the street in their Halloween gear. Um so the Lacy Placy Township Police were out in force. Um we saw them patrolling all night long keeping everybody safe. It was really good to see um that.
>> Nice. Great. >> Thank you all very much. >> And if I may dovetail on that if I could, Mr. Han, for for a second. >> I didn't bring it tonight. It's at home on my countertop, but I got another letter from another resident and talking about the police. They did a wonderful job. You have walking away the greatest
Halloween. Everyone in the town looks forward to it on Lake Barnaga Drive. Anyway, um for the No More Kings rally, another tip of the hat to our Lacy Township Police Department. I received another letter addressed to the mayor um
with the level of professionalism. Um and uh I I should have brought it tonight because it was even nicer than the last one I got for the last rally. So, it's I think it says a lot um because there's uh certainly different views and
these are the great United States and I want every view heard. So, that um that day was a a good day for the people that demonstrated and it was a good day for the police department. So, I'm grateful for the service and uh frankly the
demonstration. So, thank you. >> It's exceptionally well handled also. >> Mr. Hong, >> Mr. Mayor, I just want to say yes. >> Josh, I want to say thank you from my grandchildren and everyone else. Anybody that's not familiar with Josh's house,
even before he decided to run the Where's Josh live? I said, look for the biggest Halloween display on Lake Barnagate. Year after year, he does a phenomenal above board job. And I want to thank your family because
we called them Halloween perogis this year. They were out there serving perogis if uh at the thing which was a nice warmup because that night got got cold. >> But >> Josh, I know you're involved with the uh
Halloween thing also in the park and I really mean it from the bottom of my heart and I've told you this time and time again. Please stay involved because too many times we see people go through this and they disappear. You're wellliked in town. You have a lot of
friends and we hope we see a lot of you. Thank you. >> Definitely. >> Thanks, Josh. >> Thanks for coming up, Josh. >> Anybody else this evening? >> Seeing none, make a motion to close the floor. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Resolution 2025-310 resolution of the township of Lacy
County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the convening of an executive session in accordance with the open public meeting. >> Move it. >> Move it. Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kenn. >> Yes. >> Mr. Yes. >> Mr. Le. >> Yes. >> Mayor. Yes. >> Motion to >> move it. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I. No further business.