Adequate notice of this meeting has getting here >> has been given in accordance with the open public meetings act pursuance of public laws 1975. Said notice was advertised in the Azri Park press and the beacon and was posted on the Bolton board showing the time and place of the meeting. Will everyone please rise salute the flag followed by a moment of
silence. I >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Item one, proclamation recognizing National Library Week. >> Steve, read this very, very slow because the next person's not here yet. >> Very slow. >> Yes. Whereas libraries spark creativity, fuel imagination, and inspire lifelong
learning, offering a space where individuals of all ages can explore new ideas and be drawn to new possibilities. And whereas libraries serve as vibrant community hubs, connecting people with knowledge, technology, and resources while fostering civic engagement, critical thinking, and lifelong
learning. And whereas libraries provide free and equitable access to books, digital tools, and innovative programming, ensuring that all individuals, regardless of background, have the support they need to learn, connect, and thrive. And whereas libraries partner with schools,
businesses, and organizations, connecting the dots to maximize resources, increase efficiency, and expand access to essential services, strengthening the entire community. And whereas libraries empower job seekers, entrepreneurs, and lifelong learners by providing access to resources, training,
and opportunities that support career growth and economic success. And whereas libraries nurture young minds through story times, steam programs, and literacy initiatives, fostering curiosity and a love of learning that lasts a lifetime. And whereas libraries
protect the right to read, think, and explore without censorship, standing as champions of intellectual freedom and free expression. And whereas uh dedicated librarians and library workers provide welcoming spaces that inspire discovery, collaboration, and creativity
for all. And whereas libraries, librarians, and library workers across the the country are joining together to celebrate National Library Week under the theme drawn to the library. And now therefore, be it resolved that I, Steven Kenneth, mayor of Lacy Township, proclaim April 9th through the 25th,
2026 as National Library Week. During this week, I encourage all residents to visit their library, explore its resources, and celebrate all the ways that the library draws us together as a community. >> Do you have a very long speech? My next person's not here yet.
>> I can talk about upcoming free library programs. >> Thank you so much. Uh, thank you everybody. The audience, please. Hi. Hi. I'm I don't want to face my back to you, even though the microphone's like this. I'm just going to turn it
around if that's okay. That's perfect. >> That makes it more proper. Hi everyone. My name is Chris Monator. I'm one of the librarians at your local Lacy branch, a part of the Ocean County Library System. Um I want to thank Mayor Kenneth and everyone on the Lacy Township um council
for this wonderful honor in recognition of National Library Week. Um as you know, we at the Ocean County Library provide multiple programs for all age groups and demographics. Um, some great, fabulous programs that are coming up in May include on Thursday, May 7th at 2 PM
in honor of mental health awareness month. We have um open table with St. Francis Counseling Service. They will be there to provide information for individuals that need help finding um resources for their mental health. Along with them being providing information on
that, they will also be um showcasing a travel popup exhibit in honor of victims of sexual violence um and assault. So, learn about where you can get mental health resources and see their pop-up travel exhibit on that day at 2:00. Um also taking place on Thursday, May 7th,
um at 6:30 p.m. in honor of Jewish American Heritage Month, we have um the Bayerna Dance Duo. It's a all ages family program taking place at 6:30 p.m. So, learn about Jewish American culture and the dances within that culture.
Then, taking place on Saturday, May 17th at 100 p.m. in honor of Asian-American Island Heritage Pacific Month, we are have invited the ultimate K-pop K-paulse dance group from NYC. Um, that program is 100 p.m. So, learn all about K-pop
music and K-pop culture as well as the dances. It's all ages and like I said, you just call to register or go to our website which is the www.the oceanount library.org to sign up and register for all these programs which are completely free. And I will let
everyone else enjoy and talk to our beloved council. So, thank you so much everybody. I appreciate you. >> See? Okay. >> Yeah. I'm going to talk a little bit about some things you don't even know. We just had a meeting on Tuesdays. I'm
on the uh library commission for the Ocean County. We're going to be expanding your training uh first amendment training. We're getting that brought in and a couple other trainings for One of the things we have to deal with is young children coming in who are
abused and recognizing that and making sure our librarians have the knowledge to make sure that we can protect these kids because we've had some problems. First Amendment. We've had a problem up in Lakewood as you're well aware of LA about this time last year. We had a major problem up there.
>> We've had some problems over on on Laval Live. >> So these are the important things. But if you want to know what's going on in the library, pick up the phone, call or go on the library system and you'll see. And you know what? You just don't have
to go to the Lacy one. You can go to the Stafford one, which we're opening up a new library I think in May. Um, and then you can go to any one of these things. If you see something you like, you can go to it. 90% of them are free. So with that, thank you very much.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you everyone. >> Item number two, Debbie. >> Why'd you come up front, young lady? >> Hi. like >> you can sit there, you can stand, whatever you want to do.
>> Whereas whereas Debbie Abram Bramov Bram Movich >> Bramovich Yeah. Sorry. Longtime owner and steward of the Captain's Inn has dedicated many years of her life to serving the community with unwavering
commitment, warmth, and hospitality. And whereas through her leadership, the captain's in has become more than a restaurant. It has stood as a cherished gathering place where friendships were formed, celebrations were shared, and countless memories were made. And whereas Debbie Abramovich K's
contributions extend far beyond her establishment as she has enriched the community through her generosity, civic spirit, and steadfast support of local initiatives. And whereas her legacy is reflected not only in the success of her business, but in the lasting impact she has had on residents, visitors, and the
broader community. And whereas the presentation of a key to the city is one of the highest honors bestow bestowed, symbolizing trust, gratitude, and the recognition that the recipient has made extraordinary contributions to the life and spirit of the community. And whereas
this key represents that Debbie Abrammo said, I know Debbie K. I said, you know, I've said it a thousand times in my life. Anyway, Debbie Kay will forever be welcomed, valued, and remembered as an integral part of the community she
helped shape and strengthen. Now, therefore, I, Steven Kenneth, mayor of the township of Lacy, on behalf of myself and the township committee, to hereby honor Debbie Kay for her years of dedicated service, celebrate her well-earned retirement, and proudly present her with the key to the city as a lasting symbol of appreciation and
respect. SO, THAT THIS IS THE VERY FIRST KEY THAT WE'RE giving and you're such a huge part of the fabric of Lazy Township. It's my honor to present you the box. >> I'm not leaving lazy. >> The rest of the get down. >> Debbie, that does have a frame to it and
everything, but it was very heavy. So, we're going to end up taking this back room and we'll get it all put into the frame. And there's a plaque inside the frame. You're not losing it at the restaurant. You can keep it for yourself. That goes
>> close. >> Yeah, we kind of had to do the stick. >> Unfortunately, yes. Are we all good? >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I don't know what um it's always been our pleasure, my whole family growing up
in Porsche River and we're going to be here for a long time. So, I didn't know what to say, but thank you all so much. >> Thank you. Would you like a tissue?
>> I'm going to let the public speak. >> I can resend that to you, too. But it's So, comments from the committee, Peggy. >> Sure. >> I just want to tell Debbie on a personal note, >> how fortunate I feel that you've been
there for me and I'm grateful for that. I mean, I know all these other people have known you a really, really long time and been there, but me personally, between my mom and my husband, you you took care of me,
and I will never forget that. And we're so lucky to have you here in this town. And don't you go anywhere. >> Okay. >> Thanks, Deb. Bob. >> Well, many of times you hear me say
about people from town. I don't even know where the time's gone. I had the unique opportunity to be in high school at the same time at Debbie In regional. So to think that now is retirement time.
The years have just flown by through uh many of our families. I know my family, aunts, stuff like that that had worked for her parents years ago. And as we know, Debbie had brought the captains in to a new height through the years. But Debbie and her family business has
been such an intricate part of this community. None of us could really thank you enough. No more can be said but thank you. Thank you for being an exceptional employer, a caring employer. We know your
employees love you and you become a friend to so many families and organizations in this town. And the biggest thing, even though we know the captain's in still going to be there >> with all its employees, >> with all its employees,
>> the one thing many of us that's been around town a long time, and even if it's a short time, we're going to miss that personal touch that you put on our affairs, our our occasions, and making them so memorable. And by doing that,
not only do you hold the key to our town, you hold the key to our hearts and you've become a part of so many people's families in this town. >> So, all I can tell you is enjoy
retirement, make the most of it, and we've had this discussion. We know we're going to see around town, >> but >> thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And for the many generations that
I've known you, >> thank you. >> Thank you, Bob. Tim, >> Debbie, my doctors don't like you. >> I figure your your establishment put about 30 pounds on me.
But no, seriously, you I've never seen a a a person do what you do for a town. And I've lived in a lot of towns. And it's just amazing. You know, my sister who lives in in Marlton, she cames down. She came down one time.
She goes, "Let's go to lunch." I said, "Okay." I took her to the captain's in. Now, when she comes, we're going to the captain's in, right? We're going to the captain's in, right? Okay. It's it's that's fine. But no, seriously, your it your establishment one of a kind and I
hope that it'll continue to be that that kind of a restaurant. >> I hope so. >> But Debbie, I wish you nothing best of best of luck and welcome to retirement. >> I I just forgot one quick thing. There's another person that we're all going to
miss seeing in the kitchen cuz he's retiring along with Debbie >> is Chef Bob. >> Yep. That's right. >> SO, >> UM, YEAH, DEBBIE, we can't say enough about how much uh, you know, of the part of the community you've been. Um, the
care that you put in the family parties and all the organization events and the catering and plus you made the cabin truly a destination in the summer. And so, um, um, you know, myself, I'm going to miss the free DRINKS AND DESSERT. IT'S ALWAYS A LOSS WHEN a long time It's
always a loss when a longtime mom and pop business closes and yours might be the biggest, but it's a well needed break. Um, you know, you've earned every bit of it. So, I wish you truly the best of luck and Chuck Bob, best luck. >> Does anyone from the public care to >> say a few words?
>> Say a few words. >> Come on, Kev. Okay. >> All right. >> That's right. >> Okay. So, we're going to pause if um >> Do you guys want to leave? Go to Captain. I don't. >> Thank you all for coming.
took the >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Family photo. Yes, >> that'd be nice. We don't really ask any >> call. I was like I was like I need you to
come. And >> she's like, "Do I really?" I was like, "Yes, you have to." >> Yes. >> What's up? >> Dessert and drinks. We're always >> I don't know where I'm going to go for
chicken favors. >> Where am I going for lunch? I don't >> You're facing me. >> Take care. >> Thank you. >> And and Brian. Brian. Good. Good luck. work with him. I said
that they invited me over, >> John. >> Well, we'll deliver it in its frame tomorrow. >> Shut the door. >> During lunch time, >> Yeah. They're all waiting in line out there.
>> So, Steve, >> I guess we got to get on the captain's end tonight. >> Yes. That was >> That was perfect. >> I know. I know. >> You're in trouble. You're in trouble. >> I need to go on a diet.
adequate notice of this meeting. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, we add Sorry. Yes. The add-on. Hang on. Now for what? >> Break. No, we >> talk on um the Lacy Alex is looking to Well, they're hosting a farmers market uh this Sunday on the 26th and they're
asking permission to post um two or three lawn signs at the corner of Route 9 and Beach Boulevard. And they intend to clean it up immediately following the event. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Motion to adjurnn. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> adequate notice of this meeting has been
given in accordance with the open public meetings act pursuant to the public laws 19 of 1975. Said notice was advertising as we park press in the beacon and was posted on the bolton board showing the time and place of the meeting. First reading of ordinance 202610 amending chapter 21 of the township code entitled
parks. An ordinance of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey amending and supplementing chapter 261 of the township code of the township of Lacy entitled parks. This ordinance is to amend the fees for beach badges and summer recreation camp. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes.
>> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kenn. >> Yes. >> First reading of ordinance 202611 setting salaries for the CWA union. Ordinance of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey amending an ordinance entitled an ordinance of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State
of New Jersey affixing and determining the salaries, wages, and compensation for the officers, employees, and members of the governing body of the township. This is for the CWA union employees. >> Second. >> This is for 2026, 27, and 28. And it's a 2% increase for 26, a 2% for 27, and a
2.5 for 28. >> Move it. >> Mr. Laray. Yes, >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kennes, >> yes. Second reading of ordinance 20267 amending chapter 93 of the township code entitled police department. >> An ordinance of the township of Lacy
County of Ocean State of New Jersey amending and supplementing chapter 93 of the township code entitled police department. This is for the um off uh rates for offduty officers for um third parties. >> Second reading open up to the public.
>> Seeing none, make a motion to close the floor. Move it. All in favor? I >> motion on the ordinance. Move it. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Ray, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mayor Kis, >> yes. Second reading. Second reading. Ordinance 20268 setting salaries for
non-bargaining employees, a municipal court attendant and a class one officer. Ordinance of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey amending an ordinance entitled an ordinance of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey affixing and determining the salaries, wages, and compensation of officers, employees, and members of the governing body of the township.
>> Move it. >> Second. Open up to the public. >> Second. >> Seeing none, make a motion to close it. >> Move it. >> All in favor? >> Motion on the ordinance. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano? >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay? >> Yes. >> Mayor Kennis?
>> Yes. Second reading, Ordinance 20269, establishing a cap bank. >> Ordinance of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey, authorizing to exceed the municipal budget appropriation limits to establish a cap bank in accordance with NJSA48, home 4-45. >> Move it.
>> Second reading, open the floor. Public comment. >> Seeing none, make a motion to close the floor. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> Motion on the ordinance? >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Lay, >> yes. >> Mayor Kennes, >> yes. Uh second am I on the number six? Second
reading ordinance 2026 providing for various capital improvements and acquisition of various capital equipment. >> An ordinance to the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey providing for various capital improvements and the acquisition of various capital equipment appropriating $3,265,929.
Therefore, and authorizing the issuance of $2,867,350 bonds and notes to finance a portion of the cost thereof authorized in and by the township of Lacy in the county of Ocean State of New Jersey. Second reading. Open the floor public comment. >> You were quicker.
>> State your name for the record. >> Alisa uh Alisa Waller. Uh just a question about what you just said. So various um I'm just curious what various I wasn't able to read any of the ordinance. So I'm just going by what you said. So when you say various capital
equipment or various capital improvements, what does that mean? >> New bond ordinance each year to fund our capital. Um the projects included in this are various emergency service. So like the vehicles and the upfitting that are required for them. Um an ambulance remount, a pickup truck for recreation
and public works. Um, Cranberry Hill phase 2 paving, Deerhead Lake Dam design and permitting, the Gilly Park walkway lighting, uh, street end bulkheads for, um, one street, uh, generator for the police department, uh, Railroad Avenue North extension, and security cameras
for municipal buildings. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? >> Seeing none, make a motion to close the floor. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I motion on the ordinance? >> Move it. >> Second. Second, >> Miss McDonald. Yes, >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes,
>> Mr. Lay. >> Yes, >> Marz. >> Yes. Resolution 2026133 certifying that the governing body has received the 2025 audit. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey certifying to the local finance board that all members of the governing body have received the annual municipal audit
for the year 2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> May, >> yes. Resolution 2026134 supporting A4860. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey
supporting Assembly Bill A4860, the Fairness for School Districts in development restricted areas act. >> Move it. >> Move it. >> Um, Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Lay, >> yes. >> Mayor Cass, >> yes. Number nine, uh, we nine resolution
2026 135 approving the Wait, is this table I figured? That's the one that has to be tabled. Unfortunately, there was a miss in the advertisement. So, we're transferring it in two weeks. >> Resolution 2026136 designating field 2 in Gilly Park as
Miles Field. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey designating designating softball field 2 in Gilly Park as Miles Field in honor of Peter Miles. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mayor CS,
>> yes. Resolution 2026137 authorizing the filing of a grant application. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the filing of a management enhancement review program grant application with the New Jersey Department of Community Affairs. >> Move it.
>> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lar. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kenn. >> Yes. Resolution 2026138 authorizing the execution of an agreement with the CWA union. Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey ratifying the terms
of memorandum of agreement and authorizing the execution of a collective negotiation contract with the CWA local 1088. This is in with the terms that Veronica explained earlier in relation to the salary ordinance. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Kennes. >> Yes. Resolution 2026139 authorizing a leave of absence from the police department. Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing a leave of absence for Nicole Tambbor. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. Mr.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kennis. >> Yes. Resolution 2026140 authorizing a leave of absence from the Department of Public Works. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing a leave of absence for Michael Valari in accordance with the family medical leave act. >> Move it. >> Second.
>> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kennes. >> Yes. Resolution 2026141 authorizing the appointment of a school crossing guard. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey appointing a school crossing guard for the town of Lacy. >> Move it.
>> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laray. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kenn. >> Yes. Resolution 2026142 authorizing the appointment of a class one officer. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey appointing Nicholas Better as class one special law enforcement officer.
>> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. Yes, Mr. >> Juliano. >> Yes, >> Mr. Laray. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kanis. >> Yes. Resolution 2026143 authorizing the refund of deposit monies. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the refund of deposits held for the use of municipal facilities.
>> Move it. >> Second, >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Any abstensions? >> Not on that one. >> Sorry, Mr. >> Yeah. Wait a minute. Why do we got to give the money back? >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes.
>> Mrs. Juliano. Yes. >> Mayor Kennes. >> Yes. Resolution 2026144 authorizing the payment of township bills. >> Resolution of the town of Palacey County of Ocean City, New Jersey authorizing the payment of township bills. >> Move it. Second. >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald.
>> Yes. And I'll abstain on T0035. >> Mrs. Juliano? >> Yes. >> Yes. Motion to approve caucus meeting minutes of April 9th, 2026. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Motion to approve township meeting minutes of April 9th, 2026. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? I
>> motion to approve executive session meeting minutes of April 9th, 2026. >> Move it. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> I. >> Comments from the uh public. >> Good evening, Mayor. >> State your name for the record. >> James, >> Lacy Township. First of all, I think
it's disrespectful to go through agenda so fast. I didn't even get my hand up on item number six. I had questions about that. >> Okay. >> And it's also disrespectful to a community. The posted agenda in my opinion that doesn't detail what each
everything's computerized. There's no reason that everybody can't look at those resolutions and ordinance and what is in detail. When I was min administrator in Hightown, we had as many as 175 pages posted for people to
go through and people went through it. might get more people out. With that being said, there's a rumor going on which goes back to the capital improvements that the dam in Bamber Lake and the dam in uh >> Deerhead
>> Deer Head need to be replaced in the tune of $8 million. And there's room that this governing body is considering draining those lakes and leaving them mosquito beds. >> Go ahead. which would negatively impact
the downstream lakes because they have to be full to go over the l the waterfalls. So, I'd like to hear a clarification in public. >> So, on Bamber Lake Dam, it's currently under the uh we're doing the engineering right now. The plans are in design and
we've just that's so Bamber Lake is it's not being drained. So, it's it's it's uh we're in the process of doing the engineering we and submitting the appro uh for the permits. Dearhead Lake, we just we're getting currently we're getting fine not for the
actual spillway, which is the uh I guess the more modern part of the of the Third Lake Dam, but the uh >> secondary spillway, >> the secondary spillway, the Earth & Dam on the which is sort of in the middle of the beach portion of the lake is we're we're replacing that. So we authorized
with this with this capital improvement or uh the engineering for that >> because I didn't get up now I'm using my five minutes to ask some questions uh >> but that so you know that the the word rumor and draining of the lakes is
exactly that >> that's why I came here to clarify >> a rumor uh that's right nobody nobody has any to benefit of you people because you're being badmouththed very pig so I said I'll go ask publicly >> yeah And like Steve just said, we wouldn't be putting forth in this book
capital the amount to fix do that secondary spillway because they told us if we don't do something we'll start getting fined every day instead of once a year. >> But here the the thing that I want to finalize is respectfully
there is no reason for trans not being transparent not listing every item which is setting it up on a computer. other towns do it, other burrows do it, and it would educate the public a lot more. >> So, my only response to that is, I mean,
that was been in place before I got here. So, I don't have a great answer why it's not done. >> I could go back when Doc Grant used to type to things. >> Yeah, I'm sure. >> We didn't have internet to post it on then, though. >> So, I guess it's >> But she typed them all out. >> That's more a question for Veronica.
>> Well, it's it's just, you know, as time evolves. Yes. And technology changes. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's just always been there in draft form. Nothing says that we can't put them on on the agenda. It's just a a you know, >> I it's a lot of work to do it. Don't get me wrong.
>> No, I understand it. But it is in a it is on the computer. >> Yes, >> it can be set up through programming to automatically file to those things. If you buy additional software and then pay a annual maintenance fee, >> the bureau of Heisttown can do it and post 170 something pages and much
smaller budget than this town has. >> Policies and procedures to that can be discussed and see what we >> Well, that's what I'm bringing it up for. >> Yeah. I mean, it's a fair it's it's a fair point. >> The whole thing about >> We're only required to post the agenda. Again, if it's a special meeting, you're only required to post the agenda to
what's known. Other than that, your annual notice is all you have to post. >> But see, here's the difference. You're only required to rather than trying to be publicly transparent. You know, we criticize people in government for not being transparent.
This is the basic roots of government for every resident. You know, they're not going to be there. I mean, I watch C-SPAN. I used to watch the uh British Parliament. I've watched a lot of stuff. But the point is respectfully
consider the public. The other thing I'll bring up and I'll let go. I couldn't make the YMCA and all that stuff. Uh I don't know where this town is going. Don't know what kind of uh funding is going to cost, but I'll go
back to the 80s when I had police athletically fully running organized. Members of the committee were on it, members of govern bodies, lawyers, and there was people on the governing body and a former police of chief who stood up at a chamber of commerce
meeting and told them not to support the PBA I'm uh the PAO. I had an 8,000 square foot butler building to start off with. Dick Richie went when they turned down the Exxon with DMUA offered it to us. >> There's got to be a lot more
transparency. And I heard that there was a survey done. I didn't get surveyed 1,800 people, but there's nearly 20,000 voters and there's more residents than that. And if you're going to spend that kind of money, it belongs on an agenda for us to vote on with all the
information put out there. >> So, yeah. So, all the information will become available as we receive it and and um it's going to be going to a referendum in no in November. >> I understand it's going to referendum.
That's good. But the issue is why is this township getting involved in a private organization? There's a separation of government and public and you're getting involved with an organization. Good organization, don't get me wrong. We had a YMCA
building, St. Pius tore it down. The only people that used it was the Bobc. So, uh, is there really a need? You know, I heard a lot of things. You put the pickle ball court out in Bamber. I'm
sure you have a couple more. I never see anybody there. And the final thing about Bamber Lake, why was the sign to Haken down for residents of Lacy Township only and change and you just put a little sign? >> Did you open it to the public? Are all the other parks open to the public? >> I believe
>> outside of this town. >> I don't have an answer to that's >> that sign was stolen. >> No, no, no. Not the one street. That's at >> Ber Park. Okay. >> At the parking lot where the ball field is, there was a 4 foot by 8 foot sign.
Amber Lake Recreation Area for residents of Lacy Township >> prior to us re redesigning the ball field. So maybe it just didn't get put back. Jimmy, >> no, no, no. It's It's been down for years and they put another one little ber. >> I I I think it's good you brought it to our attention and my recommendation is
let's look into it and get the answer. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. Come on up. >> State your name. >> Yeah, right. >> Thank you so much. Have to do
Regina Desenza, Sunset Drive, Sunrise Beach. The mail in absentee ballots came out yesterday for the June 2nd primary. So tonight, I'd like to officially say I'm a Republican candidate for the Single Township Committee seat. And thank you to all my friends and neighbors who
signed my ballot petition. May 12th is the deadline for voter registration for the June 2nd primary. I was invited to attend yesterday's community um forum which just slipped
away the leader forum the leader forum meeting about the YMCA proposal for the property across the street from the new LMUA building on Richard Kennedy Boulevard. The township of Lacy owns the wooded property near Gilly Park up to
Adam Street and around the water tower behind the Wawa. The meeting mostly focused on questions about how a YMCA could help Lacy residents programs for seniors, counseling services, child care, two pools, exercise room, etc.
into a twostory 64,000 square foot building. Absent from all the discussion was how this new venture would be paid for. And honestly, that made it very difficult to answer those questions. If you want thousands of people to show up at a new
YMCA, you need the infrastructure to bring them here. Currently, all the roads leading to this 11acre parcel for the new proposed building are all single lane roads. Imagine so much traffic coming to the YMCA that the police
department vehicles can't get in and out of their own driveway. I have to wonder how much thought was given to the potential traffic issue. The township supposedly conducted the survey last year and approximately 1,840 people filled them out. This is only a fraction
of our 28 to 30,000 residents. So, anyone would have to conclude that if a YMCA is built in Lacy, people will be coming here from several surrounding towns to utilize their offerings. Lacy's roads can't handle the traffic it
has now. Look at what Walmart and Home Depot did to the traffic in this town. So, I was very disappointed that financing the project was not discussed at all yesterday. And on another note, if people are in need of transportation
in and around Lacy and Ocean County, Ocean Ride service from the county is available. Call 7327368989 to register and get the information about their routes and services. Reservations must be made in advance for
their door-to-door service. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? Please state your name again. >> Um Alisa Waller. >> I guess that's good, right?
>> So um hello everyone. Good evening. So, the gentleman that was up just before uh the last speaker was talking about our website, and I noticed uh I my whole point of coming here with my notes tonight was to talk about how I went on the Lacy website and it is so dated and
it's impossible to find things. >> Did you realize we just launched a new website on April 1st? >> So, uh uh no, I did not know that. However, however, >> I've looked before that and um some of the things that are still remaining
non-links still remain non-links. I'm not really sure why, especially the meeting from December 1st, 2025 and that was before the new launch. So, I just wanted to point out like the whole lack of attention to our own website just seems
to be apparent. I don't know who handles the website, but I feel like as a teacher, we have to figure out how to get the information out as quickly and as efficiently as possible with the least amount of funding and, you know, materials to do that. And if you're a
teacher, you would know what I'm talking about. So, I just think we could do a better job. I don't know who does our website, but if we're paying someone to do it, I don't think it's a it's a good representation of the new technology that's available to us. >> Fair criticism. Um, and really that was
my main uh thing to talk about except for um being here tonight for the uh captain's in um which is really great. We're noticing our history um and it's just linking back to the Warden House and how they spent a moment just like
this back in history, you know, remembering and recognizing something that was important to their town at that moment. And the fact that we can do that now proudly and I totally support it, but tear down other aspects of our history that did exactly the same thing
should be something you should reflect on tonight when you go to bed. Um, I think we should save it. I also think my dad and I were driving around. The idea of putting a quick check on that corner is ridiculous, but my dad being who he is said, "What what are you guys doing
to the pharmacy across the street on the corner >> that just closed? We do nothing. It's privately owned and it just did close and transfer to a a new purchaser and I >> Oh. So he was like, "Why don't they just put a little mini like privately owned gas station there and keep the warden house where it is and make that a
connection between who else we recognize tonight was the library and the library is aspect of historical information that we should treasure and I think connecting the warden house the library and that whole little ext that area there is a benefit we should look into. If I might, Mayor Elis, I just want you
to know that we did try to get the county to help us with that and they didn't want to touch that whole situation about moving the warden house. So, it's not that we didn't try everything we possibly could to move the warden house off the property so that it
could be saved, but it's it's not a possibility. I that's a good point, but what she just what Amy just pointed out the various funds that we use for various things that we're variously I why couldn't we use it towards something like that? I'm not sure.
>> The cost when the when the county looked at it >> Yeah. >> the cost of moving that and saving that was in the neighborhood of $4 to $500,000 because you got you got the telephone wires, you got all that stuff. you got to stop got to stop traffic on Route 9
for X amount of time. It it just wasn't economically feasible and that's the and they even talked about moving it back and at that rate it was at $200,000 and the county did not want any parts of it. >> So it's not Yeah. Go ahead.
>> No. So we decide this stuff during our budget when we have special budget meetings. Nobody comes to our budget meetings. Nobody. the the department heads occasionally oa okay that only only recently not all this maybe in the
last two years not since for not in the 13 years that I've been here >> so we get very little participation point so so but the but the thing about it is then you would see how how how the uh constraints that we that we're operating under we can't just do
whatever we want because we have to balance the taxpayers's needs along with with supporting ing our emergency services. That's the problem. >> I I I'm I don't I don't debate that because I believe there's a disconnect between citizens and government except I
believe citizens want to know their government more than ever now and our government is not it like you reaching out about them those meetings could be plastered so much bigger on our website so people are reminded. I mean you could purposely do that as a visual person.
>> I I agree that that stuff should be uh better handled. However, people still would have to go to the website to see it. >> Yeah. But don't we have a Facebook page? Someone someone on our someone said does. But again, >> Yeah. Wreck. Because Yeah. >> We we balance a lot of needs with, you know, the employee responsibilities. We,
you know, we can't just keep piling. You're a teacher. You must know you keep getting more and more piled on top of you. >> You can't do everything. So, we have to pick and choose. >> Oh, we have saying I, you know, I agree. But also just wanted to point out uh arts community of Lacy, New Jersey is a
new group in our town and I'm just do doing a heads up for that because we just met a few times and the recck department is running it. So anyone could come to our meetings. >> So Alisa, let me just say with the website and we just launched a new one April 1st. It's still a work in progress because we know as things got transferred, yes, there's broken links,
there's broken this and that. So we are working on trying to and so if you know what links are broken, if you email us, we'll look into it and make sure >> whole list. I'll just Yeah. just send it off to Amy and we'll look into those links. Uh because you know every day we're making changes and and updating things as we find out things did not
transfer properly. >> And there's nothing more frustrating than than someone who's trying to learn the system and like this happened. So thank you. >> So thank you jersey. It's the same way when you go on their sites it's like 404 whatever error code. Yeah. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Anything else from the public up State your name, please. >> Oh, yes, of course. Hold on. I got to get this up because it's too low. >> I think I'm just going to hold it. Good evening, Township Committee and Lacy Citizens. Richard A. Bidnik, Lacy,
Citizens for Responsible Government. I was invited and participated in the community leaders forum held yesterday at community hall. I could see it was done to build momentum that the township committee has been working on with the YMCA of the Jersey Shore over the last
few years. There are about 50 participants from various walks of life who are invited to this event. I have nothing against the value of what a YMCA brings to any community. The problem is this community is really not the right
fit for the Y. There's a tremendous lack of infrastructure in this town which has led to tremendous amounts of traffic on Route 9 in particular and Lacy Road. This why would would only bring much more traffic from both the north and
south on Route 9 and onto Lacy Road. This was majorly discussed the table I was seated at and it wasn't brought up by me. The other point that was stressed is that Lacy is financially strapped. Our taxes over the last two years alone have
majorly increased, putting a huge strain already on our struggling families and seniors, and things are not going to get better. Gas prices have gone through the roof. Inflation is rising again, and the high cost of utilities is making life
quite difficult for many in our town. Lacy Citizens for Responsible Government is all about fiscal responsibility and transparency in our government entities. But then again, I thought about what about the over $300,000 that was wasted
of our tax monies on the failed Johnson Controls municipal complex proposal. Just think what that money could have been used for. Maybe to make Deer Head Lake swimmable again. I've observed over the years that our government body likes to boast about what a great town Lacy
is. But I ask myself, is it? It was when I moved here 20 years ago. But let's look at the facts of the matter correctly today. 20 years ago, the taxes were much, much lower. There was so much less traffic. It was a safe place to
live. Dearhead Lake was a swimmable beach full of life. Now it's totally dead. Tremendous amounts of building have happened with no real infrastructure in place to sustain it. Many box stores have been added that were sold to us as stabilizing our tax
base, but they have not. These issues, which are just a very few examples of the changes, which in my view are quite drastic, are not complimentary with things being better because they're not. 20 years ago, Lacy's school system was decent. It isn't now, and it costs us a
hell of a lot of money. I have little trust in government to ever do the right thing. And what I mean is the right thing by the people. it is elected to serve. Just look at our country, everyone. Bankrupt, $40 trillion in
debt, involved in foreign wars that nobody wants. Our own state has an over $3 billion deficit this year, and nothing is getting better. Our government leaders promise us a can of goods they never deliver on. The Y
coming to Lacy would be another financial burden on the already strapped taxpayers of this town. There's no way that the YMCA could come here without the township having to come up with many dollars to bring it here and then make it sustainable.
A 64,000 foot building could cost between 35 and $45 million. I happened to look up the tax returns of the organization, the YMCA of Mammoth, Greater Mammoth for the year 2024. It was interesting to note that the
director who spoke at the event, her name is Lori Goenszer, her salary alone was 475,000 plus 9,046 in compensation. I have to say as a person who has an a master's
degree in nonprofit association uh and you running them, I think I need to go back to work. And Veronica, you're running a town with a budget that's more than $30 million and you're not getting you're not getting $475,000 a year. >> Yeah.
>> I'm pleased to see that Regina Desenza has decided to run for township committee as a Republican. We desperately need fiscal hawks in our town looking out for us because what we have now is not the case. So much could have been done so differently, but here
we are now. a financially strained town because of decisions made by our government leaders both here and at our school district. Health insurance costs arising so out of control for public employees with no end in sight when many
in our town do not even have any health insurance at all. Something has got to give and it's not going to be my pocketbook anymore. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anything else from the public? >> See you now. Make a motion to close the floor. >> Move it.
>> All in favor? >> I. >> Committeewoman Juliano. >> Thank you, Mayor. Again, it was a wonderful evening congratulating Debbie on her retirement. That's the way we started the evening. And what I'd like to just say is to remember again of all
our emergency services and um our fire departments went out on 101 calls. Not even a full month was that done in and we just need to make sure that they're a priority. So when they come in and ask for something, we need to be
there for them. So it's it's a priority to me. Um and I always say thank you to them. And of course to our police department, we're very fortunate to have what we have and I'm grateful for that. That's all. Mayor, thank you. >> Thank you, Petty. Peggy, uh depend
I don't mind you. Sorry. >> First of all, I want to always thank every anybody that comes up to this mic and gives their opinions, their ideas or whatever. Um, pro or con. Plus, things
are brought forth that sometimes we're not even aware of. So, I do thank you anytime you come up here, whether I agree with you or not. Um, we did start out with a great uh great evening uh honoring the library and especially Debbie.
Um, one thing I do want to comment on is Rich, I know we say we're we we're proud of the town we live in. I will always be proud of the town I live in. It's the only reason I'm up here. Is it the same town it was 30, 40
years ago, or 20 years ago? No, it's not. I grew up in a town, two bus drivers, one school, 4,000 people were sitting in it. We now have six schools, I don't know how many buses, 30,000
people. Change happens. Progression happens through the years. We may agree or disagree on how our town fathers put things together. Some things are out of our control. Route nine, some of the
infrastructure. I don't disagree. It's tight getting around at times, but overall, look around this state. Look around this county. Lacy Township is something to be proud of. Is the world perfect? No.
But you cannot grow at the rate we grow and expect everything to be the same. It's no different than finding a good restaurant. Do not tell anybody about it because before you know it, you're going to be
standing outside wishing you had a reservation. I know months ago sitting in the audience with all of you and an individual came up to the mic and was complaining about
the same things and asked the committee at that time why they didn't close the gates. We know that's unrealistic. It's also unconstitutional and if we close the gates, most of you in this room would not be here. >> Correct?
>> So, think about that. We're doing the best we can and we're not always going to agree. And I do a thank you for your opinions. But the only thing I wanted to speak about tonight was I just wanted to give a quick uh mention uh with the DPW. They're out busy working. Spring's here.
Uh you can already see the parks are coming together. The fields are lined for early in the season. Uh all our parks and recreation are looking really really good. Uh though we've been working hard on getting the massive amount of potholes around this town
filled along with uh uh this afternoon I was down again our south docks which were finishing up. The electric and the water's getting finished now. It's something to be proud of. look at. And I know many people always say, "Where are they?"
East Lacy Road is where the town docks are if you're wondering where they're at. And that's all I got tonight. Mayor, >> if I could just have a minute. I left something out. I'm sorry, mayor. Um, just on a a note here. So, back to it's called volunteerism in this town and a lot of people do things that are
volunteering and they don't sometimes get recognized for it. But this past weekend, um, George Resitar was, um, acknowledged at the, uh, Little League for his service to his community in in the Little League and he's now on the
Hall of Fame down there. And that's those are the kind of things that we see seem to just keep forgetting about. like we have some of the best people in this town and a lot of times we just get so caught up in everything we're doing
wrong that we forget about all the stuff we're doing right and we have great people in this town that put 40 years into a fire company, put 20some years into volunteering for the little league. you. We We are a great town and every
time you say something negative against this town, which is your privilege, it it hurts us and it steps over the good stuff that we are. And I I will always fight against the bad stuff. The good stuff is here. And congratulations
to you, George, because that is a big thing that you've given back to this community selfishly, unselfishly. And I and I I really these are things that we always have to look at and firemen and our first aid and these these are all the things we need to look at because
people do a lot of volunteer in this town. Thank you mayor. >> Thank you Peggy. Command McDonald. >> Peggy >> stole your thunder. Thanks. >> You stole you stole what I was going to uh first of all I want to congratulate George. I was down there was was very
nice. Um and it does take a lot of work. little league. I don't care what it is. Basketball, football, baseball, soccer, it takes a lot of work, a lot of dedication. >> That's right. >> And George, you earned it.
I don't look back. I can't worry about history. I don't know if we made mistakes. Don't care because all I'm worried about is tomorrow, the next week, the next month, the next year. How do we get better?
That's it. I can't change history. History is history. And I think too many times we want to look back and say there was a mistake. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but you can't change it. You can't change the issue. All you can do is try to do
better the next day, the next week, the next month. That's how I was brought up. Came home with a bad report card. Did I get yelled at? Of course I did. But it was, what are you going to do to improve it? And I think that's what this committee does. We don't look back. We
look forward and say, "How do we improve what we have now? How do we get it as efficiently as possible?" And I'm very proud to be part of this township committee because I think they do a fantastic job. We don't all get along. Let's get that straight along. So, yeah,
we argue, we fight with each other, but at the end of the day, we compromise. And I think we're doing a great job up here. Mayor, that's all I have. >> Thank you, Tim. Um, so yeah, I I attended with the other members over the past couple uh this past weekend, both the softball opening day and little
league. And just to reiterate, um just glad that we have enough volunteers at um really all our organizations to to keep the you know people active and keep uh people contributing to Lacy Township. Um I attended a meeting with uh Pete for
New Jersey Film Ready this week. That's a designation to have uh your town declared film ready. So, um it was a preliminary conversation with um the representatives from the state and and we'll see if um that's something we can
participate in. Um we did have the the YMCA we had a public private forum yesterday where we presented the layout and renderings. um they are on display here in town hall and I encourage everyone to stop in and have a look especially in particular the the the actual pictures of the building
not so much the marketing material. Um so now that we have the design information we'll be working on the financing information and a memor memorandum of understanding to make sure that any facility will be putting it will be putting the interest of Lacy Township residents first.
Um uh we have an economic report was completed and will be available on the website either tomorrow or Monday whenever that will be online regarding the YMCA and um you know there's always comments um
again I appreciate Mr. Biddick's comments and um but they're not you know again you could you could say anything you want and paint anything how you want to paint it but today we had a bond note sale so we had so um the township borrows notes short-term which are notes
and long-term which are bonds and so our sale today we got the highest rating by standard and pores it's an SP1 plus it it uh it's the highest rating given for municipal entities by S&P SNP is a rating agency for those who
don't don't know um and it indicates superior financial security and minimal risk. So by standard and poor's definition doesn't mean they're right but we're considered very good risk and I'm very happy um that we have a Home Depot, a Walmart and all the other
development that's occurred off in uh you know along Route 9 and Lacy Township over the years. It's a it's a benefit to everybody in the township. everybody. You know, why would you want to go to Weartown or Bayville to Home Depot when you, you know, when you go to Lacy Township? In addition to that, we have
great people in charge of our all our local agencies from the planning board, the MUA. We're chairman from the MUA is here. They all do a fantastic job and I have full confidence in everybody that sits on any of our boards in town, including our emergency services. Everybody does their best to maintain
the budget as best they can and I again we all have skin in the game and they all care how the money is spent including everybody up here and those are my comments. Motion to adjourn. >> Mr. Mayor, just one quick thing uh that was brought to my attention. It's got to do with Peg Peggy had mentioned volunteers.
>> Uh there's a volunteer fair next Thursday, April 30th. >> Amen. >> At the community hall from 4:30 to 7. And thank Amy for reminding us. Let me let me let me just talk about that. We had that two or three times prior to CO
and it was a huge success. >> Yes. >> CO we had to shut it down and we kind of got away from it. But with this I am anticipating that we'll have people come out who want to join certain clubs and become active and that one of the
problems is they don't know how. People cry for information. They want transparency. This is it right here. You have a chance to go go down there. You're going to meet with a I don't Everybody's going to be down there. I guarantee Jim Wyland are who's in charge of it will put on a show for us. It's
going to be great. What What are the hours on that? Do we know? >> 4:30 to 7. >> 4:30 to 7. So stop down. If you want to join something, want to join the fire fire department or something like that, not a problem. They'll I'm sure they'll be there. >> That's all I have. Mor >> motion to adjurnn.
>> Move it to save some time. I have no problem making my presentation. >> It's up to you guys if you mind. >> Go ahead. >> Sure. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, chairman. >> Okay. Hi, I'm Jim Doler under carriage
road for neighbor and I am presently the chairman of the MUA. So, I have a couple things I'd like to talk about this evening. I'll make them brief. Uh first thing about bonding ratings. Um the township's doing very
well and we're helping you do that because we have a AAA standalone bomb rating ourselves. So collectively together because we are part of the township and our rating is based on all of us. >> That's right. >> We certainly are getting some good positive help from us. >> That's right. >> Uh what I'm here to talk about briefly
tonight is that committeeman Juliano committee committee woman Juliano uh who was our liaison had asked uh if we would consider uh looking at giving 5% of our operating budget for the purpose of municipal tax
relief. And I was receptive to the point to bring back to our commission uh on May 6, it is our next meeting to take a vote on that in a positive way because I I can see that anything we would do would go directly to reduce the
municipal budget. >> That's right. I was not in favor of letting any of that money go to the school district because in the past when it had gone there we had felt ourselves that it was being misdirected not used properly >> right >> was used for administrative salaries quite honestly and that wasn't the the
focus of our doing that. So, first of all, our intent is to bring that up next meeting uh to approve that and hopefully all will go well and we can help you out a little bit. Tremendous amount of money, but it's something. >> The other thing that I want to request
is that you hand these out to I just want to give you some a little quick rundown of what we intend to do in the next four years. In the next four years, the MUA, where you're getting this on paper, this is
not flowered documents. These are things we have to do. >> We need to spend in excess of $23 million to fix our infrastructure. >> Being a realist and working with our administration and working with our finance people, I think we can
accomplish roughly 60% of that in the next four years. roughly $12 million we'll be spending on the major items that we have to do new pumping stations which are breaking down because they're old, >> right? >> Every pumping stations between $650,000 a million dollars a piece. >> Sure. >> So the money goes quick.
>> Yes. >> Why I'm bringing this up is that I'd really appreciate that for the next three years you don't ask us for any because we need the money to complete our task. And why I'm saying that, uh, I
feel very positive about this. We have on the water rate and the sewer rate, we have not had an increase in 12 years. >> Fantastic. >> We have not raise the rates at all. People can complain about our connection fee. They can do all they want about that, but that only pertains to new buildings being built or new residents
being built, but as far as our rate itself, we haven't raised it in 12 years. Uh what's really happened in the last 10 years out of the last 10 years the OCUA the county that treats our sewage from this town has raised a rate
uh six years out of those last 10 years. We have absorbed that also. We have not passed it on to the rateayer. We have taken that money out of our surplus money and done that. And the reason is we do understand that the taxpayers typically a tough time now
>> and it's a lot of it's out of your control too because the the educational system has such a big bite of the apple in in the tax situation but we haven't raised that and we haven't increased the rate. So we're trying to do the best we can in our small capacity or minimal
capacity to not tax because you can look at this as a tax if you raise a rate that's right >> on our residents any more than what they're paying right now. So, I wanted you to really appreciate that. I also want to let you know that we're running the our agency runs really extremely
smooth. We have very little issues. Uh we have a great staff. Uh Troy, our executive director, we've hired a lot of young hardworking people over the last five years. Wouldn't you say that? >> That's right. >> And we're they're doing a great job and they all get along, which is pretty
unique. >> They all get along. Well, I'm I'm very happy with that whole thing. I also like to say the relationship that I have with the committee people here. I know all of you very well. I've been in town 55 years, so I know quite a few people, right? But I know you all very well. And
I feel we have an open dialogue. We can talk to each other anytime we want. >> That's right. >> I can talk to Veronica. I can talk to Peggy. I talked to Bob or or Stephen. >> You know, I go way back with Steven's dad. We did a lot of things together and he was a great friend of mine. So, I understand and I understand the people's
plight when they complain about it's tough to live. So, we're doing our as much as we possibly can to keep our agency under control. >> Yes. >> Uh we we're not hiring a lot of people. As a matter of fact, we're we're we're down people that we didn't hire for. So, we're trying to do the best we can to
keep the the tax rate as far as we're concerned, the rates to the water and sewer stabilized. >> I don't want to go out and bond because bond is nothing more than a mortgage and you're paying the interest on the bonds. I have to. I understand that. But I don't want to do that. 27 years ago when
I went on the MUA, we had a 74,650,000 bonding indebtedness. I'm happy to say right now we have less than $2 million left in that bond. God bless. It will be paid off within the next 22 months. >> So, we're going to be in great shape. That's why our bond ratio is so great. Our rating is so high.
>> But I want to give you this. We're happy to try to help you out this year. And I hope the the amount helps a little bit. >> I want to tell you here. >> Message received. >> We you saved us a penny as they said. >> So, we got to be a little independent. >> Yes. Thank you, >> chairman. We really appreciate you being
here and speaking and I it's it's you know, it's a great value to our town that we have you guys back there running the show so efficiently and we appreciate that. Thank you for being here. >> Chairman, if I may, how you feeling? >> What's that? >> How are you feeling? >> I feel good. >> Good. That's important. I feel good. Had
a few little procedures, but that's part of life. >> That's right. >> 80 years old. >> There you go. The way it is. You know, the one thing I mean, it goes back >> sitting up here makes me so extremely proud. And it's
because of people like yourselves. And I constantly said it. I said it earlier and me and Debbie went back to high school. Troy, who now's executive director of our MUA. >> I've known him since he was eight, nine years old.
You know, his sister and my daughter played soccer together. So to see the quality of individuals that come up through this town and the leadership that has had faith in them to put them in these positions >> and to be in the situation. No matter
how you want to argue things, Steve started it off. You don't end up with these ratings by having failed systems and incompetent people. These are good people putting it together. Everybody's going to debate things. But this, no matter how you look at it, and you'll
never see me say any difference, we live in a great place. Thank you. Thank you for coming up and giving us this. And this is very helpful because now we also know your big dollar needs that you need over the next couple years. >> Most of the most of the public in this
town has no idea that we got to spend this type of money to keep this system running. >> That's right. >> I understand. >> One quick note on this young guy. >> He needs to smile, though. I know he knows how to. He's probably scared. >> And asked him to consider him putting in
for the executive director's position. So how honest he is. He said, "I don't know if I could fulfill your your expectations for what has to be done." I said, "We won't have to worry about that because I'm in his office every day." >> So I said, "But part of the thing is
growing, right?" Just like you were talking about, >> he knows the system. That's right. >> He's extremely intelligent. He's He really puts his nose to this work. >> Y >> it people who work for him like him. >> Yes. >> Not because he's just a friend. No. Want to go out for a drink. Because he does
his job and he treats his employees properly. That's right. So we got good people. You're right. >> That's right. >> And I need young people like that. >> That's right. That's why you make the moves you make. >> How long you been there now? Uh yeah. How long? >> 26 years. >> Yeah. >> 20 27 going on 28 years. >> Is that all? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You can't you can't replace that
knowledge. You just can't. And and >> like Jimmy says, you know, a lot of us have known each other for a long, long time. And we know >> Jimmy's tough. >> Mhm. >> Always has been. >> One's a tight chip. >> Tight chip, honest, upfront.
And I remember I first got on the committee and I went over and sat down with Troy. And Troy told me a story because I knew that he did not put in for this. And I said to the young man, I said, "The honor is being asked by those
who are running such a tight agency and good shit." For them to ask you, you should be really proud of yourself and have confidence in yourself. >> Thank you. >> And the good thing is is you're proving it. >> Yep. >> That's for sure. >> That's a proof, right? >> Yep. >> All right. Thank you. >> Appreciate it.
>> Public comments are >> public comments are closed. >> Protection ordinance, folks. That's what I thought they were here for. >> I've been waiting for that for 15 minutes. >> Public comments are closed >> for the fourth time. Motion to adjurnn. >> Move. >> All in favor?
>> We do the resolution for private. >> Yeah, we'll do that. I guess we could do that. >> County motion state New Jersey authorizing the convening of an executive session in accordance with the open public meetings act. >> Motion for the Tim motion.
>> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. Uh, >> kill the tape.