Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Lacy Township meeting on this wonderful evening. And we're glad you are all here. We'll commence with our caucus. I'll read the statement. We'll rise. We will pledge allegiance to the flag, have a moment of silence, and
we'll move right into business. Adequate notice of this meeting was given in open in accordance with open public meetings act pursuant of public laws 1975. Said notice was advertised as Park Press in the beacon and was posted on the bulletin board showing the time and place of the meeting. We'll salute
our flag. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Item number one this this evening resolution 2025-311 Promoting officer to chief of police. >> Resolution of the Township of Lacy, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, promoting Paul J. Sullivan Jr. provisionally to the position of chief
of police pending promotional procedures for the township of Lacy. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Penn, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. La, >> yes. >> Mayor K. >> Yes. >> At this time, I'd like to call up uh retiring Chief Christopher Kenny. He has
a few words to say. HERE we are again. So, uh, a little over three years ago, myself and soon be Chief Sullivan. Um, you know, we're here getting sworn in and, uh, time goes by very fast. So, uh,
you know, it's an honor to be here. Um, I want to thank, you know, all the officers for coming out today. This is a great show of, you know, support for our department, our leadership, the uh the new leadership coming in. Uh this is great. I want to thank, you know, all
the family, all the friends, um the retirees, you know, we've got, you know, Lieutenant Latilier in the back, Lieutenant Terrell is in the back there, you know, Lieutenant uh man, you know, so all all the, you know, retiree, you know, I'm missing Sergeant Eden. There's
so many. So, thank you so much for coming. uh Jeff Sla, you know, recent retirey, Scott Anderson. So, they're all here, you know, I mean, they're here to support. They believe in the department. You know, they still have friendships and love for this department. So, that's that's a testament to uh you know, all the men and women of this uh
organization and of this township. I want to thank some dignitaries. We have uh you know, Chief Sanuchi from Berkeley Township. That's what's nice about this is we support each other. Um Captain Loraca as well. Thank you for for coming to this event.
>> I know him. >> Appreciate all the support. >> So, tonight my retirement's been announced, but tonight's going to be a promotion of the chief and captain to uh you know, replace the uh the captain decision. So, I just want to say after 25 years and 7
months, uh, you know, as a as a county police officer, uh, you know, we're going to be retiring effective December 1st. Uh, it's been an honor and a privilege to to serve as part of this organization. I want to thank, you know, the committee truly, Veronica, the comm
all the committee members for putting their faith in me and, uh, you know, supporting the department and it was a real pleasure. I I I can truly say that I I really had a great time uh being chief. It was uh it it was it was great.
I appreciate the support and everything that you know the the township committee does for us and uh yeah, I'm not leaving on bad terms. It's just uh truly not it it's you know when it's your time uh when you're like a SWAT operator in
emergency management anytime you you you step up you know an operation you should be planning for your you know the demobilization for your exit your exit strategy. So three years is my mark and I've said that to uh soon to be Chief Sullivan and uh
so you know that being said I followed through on it and you know I don't want to you know get in the way of anybody very confident you know leadership here all the lieutenants all the sergeants the officers even the brand new ones are you know what I mean you know they uh they surprise us every day with the the
fine work that they do so uh I want to take my opportunity to thank all the officers you all the family members for you know giving giving us uh you know your your you know your your spouses your kids you
know your children and uh you know put it in our our hand is our responsibility to make sure that they go home each night so you know I can say that we did I don't want to I don't want to belver it uh last thing I want to say is like you know hey my family and friends thank
you so much uh I as my longtime girlfriend who Eventually we'll BE my fianc >> and he's and he's not retiring. So, without further ado, um I've got
it's going to be Chief Sullivan from the center. >> That's okay. >> I have this this bio written down only because you you have to say what it takes to become a chief. like you you hear like a police officer he's been
there a while it's not how it goes the amount of you know effort um sacrifice that goes into it so I don't want to miss anything so that's why I'm going to read it so graduating high school in 1998 his bachelor's degree from sele
university and I know that he was he he took the civil service test and was you know debating whether to police job or finish college and to job and still finish college and and then went on and got his master's degree from fairly different. So kids, you listening? Dad
put college he would school education is very important. So continue on follow your father's footsteps. Um in 2001 he attended class 77 police academy. He achieved high overall fire. All right. He was hired in a uh sorry he
was hired with us in August of 2001. Patrol division. Uh that's where he worked till 2013 uh when he was appointed to acting sergeant which was made permanent in March of 2014. While in the patrol division he was a firearms instructor, handgun, rifle and subg gun.
Those are past fail forces. You show up on day one. You don't make your qualification. You're scheduled the whole week. You go home. You did it all. Uh SWAT team operated for five years. You know, very important. He's a field training officer. So holding in mind all
the officers here again methods of instruction. So he's an instructor uh and he's a PTC police training commission certified instructor. So he teaches you know at the academy and has all the the training and abilities. So
we teach our you know young and old officers. So he spent three years as a patrol sergeant before being promoted to lieutenant in 2016 and he was assigned to administrative support services division. He spent three years in that position before being transferred to the patrol division as a patrol lieutenant.
He's promoted to police captain November of 2022 after finishing seventh in the state on the New Jersey Police Captain Civil Service exam. Wow. So, seventh in the state all while trying to, you know, get our department up and running. So, so it wasn't like he
was just studying and, you know, had a position. He was learning the position of captain while doing right. He currently oversees all four uh divisions in our police department, runs the day-to-day operations of the organization, and the internal affairs coordinator for the agency, which is
professional standards. January of 2023, he attended the New Jersey Association of the um State Chiefs of Police Command and Leadership Academy. It's a 14week school. It's formerly the West Point Command and Leadership Academy. So, are you one of the first or you know,
one of the first? He's going to take credit for this. It's a demanding sound. >> It's a demanding horse. Um, I'm sure his family, you know, I'm sure
he doesn't he doesn't need to be doing this at this time in his life, but um, you know, kudos to um, he wants to, of course, acknowledge his wife for 19 years. >> Yay. kids, Cooper, Cole, and Christian.
He spends every bit of his free time traveling around the region watching his kids play baseball and soccer. >> Appreciate it someday the sacrifice your parents make for you. >> Yep. >> What I want to say is, hey, I really couldn't have done I wouldn't have been
as successful without without uh we did this together. uh spent a lot of nights I'm sure on the on the telephone to where you're wondering if he's you know like who are you talking to in the beginning it was the unknown it was you know a time of change we want to bring the department in a different
direction so we we bounced up all together all the time you know constantly so what I can say is you know I I want to thank you for you know you know all your help you know guidance and wisdom and uh couldn't have a better captain
and uh I know department is in good hands. I wouldn't turn it over. I'd hold on to it if I knew, you know, if it wasn't going into good hands. And I know between, you know, these two um you guys, you know, the township, the
committee, all the officers, and the citizens of Lacy, you're in good hands. Uh hold the vest. WELCOME. your spotlight. >> I, Paul J. Sullivan, >> I, Paul J. Sullivan, Jr.
>> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will faithfully >> that I will faithfully partially >> and partially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties of chief of police >> perform all the duties of chief of police >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability >> and that I will support the Constitution
of the United States >> and that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and to the government established in the United States. and to the government
established in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people. So help me God. >> under the authority of the people. So help me God. >> Chief Chief Sullivan, before you pin, why don't we move this way a little bit so that um shaper and stuff get >> everybody's right trying to get pictures
of you guys. >> You boys in here, too. Come on. Get in. >> That was really weird. Chief >> so fast. >> Just stab him with it. Just stab him. >> I'm more nervous about this right now.
take my chances. >> Right. Preacher of the You have the floor, sir. is yours. >> Appreciate being here. First, uh jeez, it's been it's been a uh it's been a
great run. Um we as you know, representing the department now, we want to thank you for what you've done for us over the last three years, the leadership you provided, um the stability you provided, the confidence you provided, the training you provided for these officers, for us. Um we, you
know, it's it's it's really been a you know, as you had said, it's really been a pleasure working alongside you for for the last few years. And uh we wish you the best in retirement and we heard it here tonight. It's about to come. So uh best of luck to you and and uh you know walk out
Friday at 3 p.m. and I will not let you down uh moving forward. I promise. >> Thank you uh to the committee. So um the the chief was outlining. It has been an incredible experience getting along, you know, getting to work alongside everybody here. Uh, it's not
always perfect at all times, but it is heading in the right direction and the relationship that we've had has been professional. It has been good. It has been pleasurable. Um, you know, I'm glad to have gotten to know all of you on a personal level and on top of a, you know, professional level. We look to
continue moving the department forward in the future. Ron, Amy, everybody, everybody up here. Um, thank you for trusting me to be able to lead, you know, this organization and, uh, looking forward to a lot of good things over the next few years and as we continue to develop everybody to take over the
organization when we put out pasture. So, thank you very much. >> So, no, people are taking bets. I'm like, crimes. So, it's an incredibly humbling experience
to be out here. It truly is. And, you know, work for Thanksgiving, the family in town, everybody's here. So, uh, looking forward to to to, you know, a good night. Um, the the officers in this room, you know, and the retired officers that are in
this room and, you know, our our dispatchers and our our, you know, support staff, um, It really it's an absolute pleasure being able to work alongside you guys for as long as we've been able to do this, right? Um, you know, I have a list of things that a lot
of people really talk about, but the to, you know, nobody really truly understands what a letown police officer is and the sacrifices that a police officer makes in their careers, in their lives, the sacrifice that families go
through. Right? You guys are all sitting here shaking your heads because you know really what I'm talking about, right? Unless you actually worn this badge, worn this uniform, you really truly don't get. Um, so tonight I'm, you know, I'm g platform. I'm going to take the platform. So going to kind of,
you know, highlight some of the things that these officers do on a daily basis that make my life, my job easy to to come in every every single day. So, you know, I I've been able to see the sacrifices that that they make, the
Christmases that they've missed, the, you know, Halloweens that they missed. There's going to be people that are going be missing Thanksgiving dinner on Thursday. There's going to be people that uh aren't going to be able to wake up with their kids on Christmas morning, right? So, you go through that that stuff and you start, you know,
you really really appreciate what they do every single day. So go back to April 22nd of this year when uh it was my 19th wedding anniversary got called out from John. She was not happy.
So you know I kept getting those phone calls and and then Verizon and all the all the uh all cell phones they they stopped working so that she couldn't get in touch with me. So, and then as this thing progressed, so I I sat here and thought about my sacrifice that night. And I then like, yeah, you know, I can't
go to dinner with the smoke shell of a wife that I have right there. But I look at all these officers and and the first thing that they did was they all came to work without question. They left their own families. There were many people in here that uh that house literally were in the line of fire, right? Backed up to
feed, backed up into the hunts. They came in, they sacrificed their own families and their own homes to make sure that the residencies down safely. It's duty over service, right? Service over, you know, service over self. That's really where we're at home, right? So, how does this all tie into
what we're talking about? It's going to be the theme of my conversation tonight. I want to explain to these guys and you continue to surround yourself with amazing people that amazing things good things are going to happen to you
guys, right? So, sorry to keep all choked up. So, you know, I do I do have to to be, you know, I've had the pleasure there's been 135 police officers in Lee Stat history, right? I've had the pleasure of working with 96 of them over my time here. My dad being
police officer proud of that. I've known pretty much almost every single police officer that's ever gone through this and every single person would do the same exact sacrifices that you guys did. They would live the life because of this. It's very easy for me to stand up
here and you guys are doing your jobs putting service over self. So, you know, it's very easy for us to do our jobs when you guys have, right? So, you know, I assure you, you
know, I I hold you guys to a high standard. We will continue to hold you guys to a high standard. On the on the converse, I expect you to hold me to a high standard, hold, you know, our command staff to a high standard. Right? That's that's how we're going to continue to progress this organization.
For the office, you know, the the the retired officers that are here and and the officers that have passed through the hall, I owe it to you guys to continue representing you, representing the current officers in a professional manner in the highest of ability. I will continue
to do that with integrity and I will continue to lead this organization the way it needs to be led. So, you continue to hold me to that standard. uh continue to hold you to the best that stand to the residents of of Lacy Township. We have an amazing organization here. You just heard me talk about it for a
few minutes exactly what what we have here. It's very unique in terms of of these organizations. Um Mason Township Police Department is an amazing place. These officers will work tirelessly to ensure that the residents are safe, the
residents are happy, that they uh will continue to provide the ultimate service that they're that they're expecting from our organization. We will continue under my leadership under Cath's leadership captain's leadership. Um we will we will ensure that we're going to continue to
provide the residents. So um in terms of my family and friends, I see. So, so um the as we talk about this game of, you
know, you're the you're the sum of five people. You're the average of five people you spend your most time, right? I spend my most time in the last 25 years with 135 of the greatest people that walk the earth. So, it's easy to be in my right now,
right? Continue to surround yourself with people like this. Good things are happen, right? I look at my friends over there that travel from afar, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New York. You know, you know, these guys are every
person that's in here that is on the job. So, they're uh you know, professionally they're outstanding people. We got military business owners, we have principles, we got Harvard MIT guy, I don't care. Love
you, Dan. Love you, Dad. Right. So, you know, have to sh again continue to surround yourself with these these people. My message for you, right? Um when we talk about family sacrifice, my own three right here, three men,
they've sacrificed along with everybody else, right? They they've they've been on the receiving end of midnight phone calls. They've been on the receiving end of, you know, where I should be paying attention to them in the car, going to baseball games. You know, they they know every officer's badge number, every
officer's phone, you know, phone number. They know every officer's name. When it comes down to it, if you guys really want to know who calls the most, these guys will answer that. >> We won't tell any secrets. that. So, uh, they even they even, you
know, they even know when the when the mayor calls. So, so it's, uh, you know, you guys have sacrificed, um, all of those phone calls, those midnight phone calls from the town attorney, etc., etc. In about 10 minutes when I swear that young man in over there, they're all going to be
his problem. He could filter out and uh, my wife. So, the biggest supporter of me it's been it's been amazing. Um, she has taught me so much. She's the smartest
person I know. Um, she's taught me so much about the compassion and and love and forgiveness and you know I'm undeserving of this level of of support that I've had from her this entire time. This without you guys this is not possible for me. So um thank you. I
promise that uh it won't be too much longer and I'll be here maybe a couple more years and uh you know pass but at this point it's going to be you know all the all the issues that we've had over the last few years workwise we're going
to hand off right here to sorry for the bottom of my heart there's lots of thankful have for everybody in here. I know I'm kind of rambling on a little bit, but um I got a platform and uh you know, thank you for being
part of uh you know, it's been a long long message for you three young men. You're not going to get without this this level of support, this level of love, this level of protection
>> and women >> and women. It's one demerit >> just started. >> You know where to where to cut off >> again. Thank you. We are ready to move on to
>> like to ask the committee if they have comments. >> Comments at the end. No. >> We could do comments. >> Yeah. Any comments at the end or now? >> Well, I mean after the other swear >> after the captain. >> Fine. We're good. >> We'll move on to the next resolution. >> We'll move on. Resolution number two,
number 2025-312, promoting officer to police captain. >> Resolution in the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey, promoting Samuel C. Delisalo thei to the position of captain pending promotional procedures for the township of Lacy. >> Move it.
>> So, I can take it. >> Mrs. Juliano? >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald? >> Yes. >> Mr. Kennes? >> Yes. Mr. Ray. >> Yes. >> Mayor Ker. >> Yes. >> The floor is yours, sir. >> I'm back. This one's going to be easier. >> So,
yes, another good uh good moment for for the organization. I'm really proud to be able to present to everybody lieutenant, soon to be Captain Del. I have his bio here. Um he's a good man. Sam is a very good man. He's
He's he's he's he's good good to bounce things off of. Good to good to speak with, good to talk to. He's an excellent employee. When you finish up one on recent civil service test for the police captain, it's a no-brainer. I'm just going to go right, you know, with Sam.
I'm proud to have you along with along with me for the journey along with along with the ride. Um it's going to open your eyes up to some of the the the things that are that that really go on behind the scenes. Peel back on a little bit and uh yeah. So without further ado,
I'm going to read Captain Bell for everybody and I don't want to miss everything here. So, Captain Bellisal, uh, Captain Bell grew up at Lacy Tatch and graduated from the Lacy Township High School in the year 2000. He then
enlisted in the United States Marine Corps where he served four years active duty in the infantry and security forces, achieving the rank of sergeant. For his time in service, he was awarded numerous medals and awards and certificates of commendation, including the New Jersey Distinguished Service
Medal Medal, which is the New Jerseys highest military award. After returning from the military service, he worked for the Federal Bureau of Prisons, completing training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glen Code, Georgia. In 2005, Captain Delal began his career with the Leach Police
Department. Soon after he became a member of the Ocean County Regional SWAT team where he served for nine years. He will tell us all about longer than anybody. In 2013, he was assigned as a detective
where he found a passion for investigations working jointly with agencies including the Ocean County Prosecutor's Office, New Jersey State Police, Federal Bureau of Investigations, and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms. In 2017, he was assigned to the Ocean County Prosecutor's Office for a product strike force where his efforts were focused on
drug distribution. Upon his return, he was assigned to police unit special enforcement. Over the years, Captain Dallas has approved an extensive training resume related to firearms, tactical response and investigations, which include firearms instructor, munitions instructor, active shooter
instructor, Dallas instructor, methods of instruction, top gun training, undercover narcotics investigator training, Delta narcotics units, internal affairs investigations. So, all of that stuff that leads into those things. Again, it's good to read
everybody's resume. You really need to know exactly who who's coming up and what it takes to get into these positions. As a supervisor, his duties and responsibilities have included investigative investigator commander, unit commander, and drug enforcement unit control supervisor, detective
bureau supervisor, internal affairs coordinator, property and evidence supervisor, animal community investigation supervisor, and assistant firearms training. Pat Delo is a graduate of the New Jersey State Association of Chiefs of Police Command and Leadership Academy and has completed the FBI Law Enforcement Executive
Development Association Executive Leadership Institute. He has a bachelor's degree from Farley Dickson and he continues to pursue a mastery degree and should be completed soon. Uh Captain Del will be serving as the captain of operations for the Lacy Council Police Department and will be assigned to oversee professional
standards as well as the deputy emergency management coordinator for LC. Dr. Alis married to his beautiful wife Jen Jennifer where the they recently celebrated their 24th wedding anniversary. They have two children who attends the college New Jersey
Caitlyn who's currently cosmetology school. >> Nice floor is my friend. I, Samuel C. The third >> I, Samuel C. y the third >> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will faithfully >> that I will faithfully >> impartially
>> impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties of police captain >> perform duties of police captain >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability >> and that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New
Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and to the government established in the United States >> is a government established in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state >> under the authority of the people. So
help me God. >> under the authority of the people. So help me God. Thank you. Turbo All right. I'll take an opportunity. >> So, I'm going to try to keep a short uh first of all, thank you to the township committee. Thank you to the
town police department, mayor, administrator, clerk. get everybody all the committee men police department and myself trust and and I couldn't be happier. I'm having a
great time right now. So with that being said, you know, I can't take credit for everything. This is this people also, you know, supported me and around me things. Trust me, I learned from
everybody. First and foremost, my family, my wife, my kids. I did the best I could. So, the chief talked about sacrificing, you know, I apologize. I got a big heart, but I got a couple
guys here. And uh sometimes you guys get short on a because I take the oath I took seriously. My mother and my sister my sister like my second mother and my
father my friends all my family can't some people unfortunately no longer with us, but they're still here and just as much support
for them. A big mentor in the room. He's in there hiding. He's not going to stand up, but Chris was a big mentor for me. Not just a little insight.
I don't want to take up too much more time. The chief said a lot that I was going to say, so I guess I don't. But other than that, I do have to thank every officer, all the retired officers, all the officers I worked with in the past, all my previous supervisors, leaders, and the people worked with me,
alongside me. Um, below me, I've learned something from everyone here, including some of our newest officers. Um, I am so excited and grateful for this position and opportunity. I'm going to give you everything I got like I always have. That's that's that's
the promise I can make is I'm going to give you everything I have. And I hope it's enough. hope I meet the expectations. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Now, thank you, Pete. >> I first I just want to um congratulate
uh Chris on his retirement and I just want to thank him for all the years of service um that he's done here. um you set a great example for the township and for all you officers. His demeanor was perfect for the um for uh for our squad here. And uh I'm truly going to miss
you. Um and I was thinking um PJ, congratulations, Sam. Congratulations. But uh I was thinking PJ I think that's the last officer that I I think it's the last officer that I vaguely knew of while I went through the school system here. And uh it dawned on me that I've
become irrelevant now. So, I just want to wish you both um you know, many years of success and we're happy to have you and you have you've both had long histories in Lacy Township. That's uh especially valuable to us. So, thank you both and best of luck.
>> Thank you, Mayor Mr. McDonald. First, I want to thank Chief Kenny. Uh you said in your in your words a different direction, and you couldn't have been more true. We had to go in a different direction. You were the right man at the right time and you did an outstanding
job and I thank you. >> Thank you, >> BJ. He's got some big shoes to fill, man. And I hope because three years ago we started this um we they both were interviewing and we said go with Chief
Kenny and then PJ will follow suit and we have stuck to that and it has worked tremendously and PJ has done a fantastic job and he's ready to be chief of Lacy Township and I'm sure he's going to do a wonderful
wonderful job but he's got big shoes to fill because Chief Kenny was unbelievably Good. Um, and I think you you got no problem. I think you got this. Sam, now Sam's a little different story. >> Okay. What's that mean?
>> I caught Sam I moved in to my house that I'm at now. And Sam was a freshman in high school. Okay. So, I and I would just moved in. I was a commission salesman. So, I was out early and home late. And
one day, I'm working at home cuz I got to be on a conference call. And these two men knock on my door suits. And I go, "Can we come in, talk to you for a second?" I'm going like, "About who?" They said, "Sam." I go, "Who's he?"
"Sure, come on in." So, I'm going to help the young man out. Is he good? Is he? I'm like, "Yeah, I had never I had never met Sam. I'm making him out to be the king
and he didn't fail me. He is an outstanding officer. He's going to make a great captain." Um, and and my my oldest son is very thankful for him because at one time he my oldest son had
just gotten his driver's license and Sam slipped him a PBA card. And my oldest son likes to tell stories. He comes home one night and he said, "I had to use the PBA card tonight, Dad." And I said, "I don't want to know. I
don't want to know. You're old enough to drive. keep these things to yourself unless it's really bad. He goes, "No, I was only doing 75 and a 35." >> I said, "Well, you're paying the fine cuz I'm not." So, but we have a good
police department here and we we have been commended by other uh countymen about how we planned this. And I am telling you right now, it's another township.
It's a major fight. We're not having that. We've got a plan. The smooth transition is so important to the police department. So, you guys know what's going on. They know what's going on. And we can just keep going. So, I want to wish all three of you, Kenny,
Chief Kenny, Chief Sullivan, Captain Sam, you're you're always going to be Captain Sam to me. So, I want to wish you What's that? Hey, I need a PBA code. Um, I want to wish you guys nothing but
the best. You're leading one of the best police forces in the state of New Jersey by far. And I want to thank you for your service. I want to thank the families for their sacrifices. It's not easy. It's not easy. So, I want to thank everybody. And that's all I have. Mayor,
>> thank you, Committee Juliana. >> Thank you, Mayor. First, I would just like to say to Chris, um, we are going to be missed because you have that personality that just smooths us along, you know, and we were very fortunate to have you here and I know it's rubbed off
on PJ. I've known PJ for quite a few years and I know you've you've you know, it really has rubbed off on him and he's going to do a great job, right? follow suit right with you and we'll be on his butt a couple times I'm sure along the way you know but um we're very proud
very proud of you guys and um I'm wishing you the best on your retirement enjoy every moment of it >> I think she has to answer the question though I'm just saying okay um just just putting it out there like that that's all I'm saying
to to my to my new chief we're very excited for you um the family history is just it's a wonderful thing and um I'm sure you'll make them very proud and we'll welcome you on board. It's great to have you as the chief. And to Sam who's always very quiet, doesn't say
much. I've run into him here or there and but that piece of paper that PJ read from, you have quite the long length of stuff that you've accomplished in your life and you should be very proud of yourself. You really should be and we're grateful to have you. Welcome aboard.
Thank you. And to all our officers out there and all our retirees, we're always grateful for all of you and we're thankful that you're all here supporting your team because we couldn't do it with all without all of you. So, thank you. That's all. >> Fantastic. Thank you for the comments,
Committeeman Laray. >> Like I always say, there's advantage of going close to last before the mayor. Um, mostly everything's been said, but looking around this room, you're going to find one thing in common besides the excellent police force we got and the
whole bit, but all our promotions tonight are all Lacy grown people. They grew up in Lacy. They attended our school system along with many of these uh young men and women around the room.
Um, so when people start questioning the caliber of different things around our town, remember this is what we produce and we should be damn proud of it. >> That's right, >> Chief Kenny. There's not much to say
except, you know, it's been an honor to have you serve this town as an officer. More of an honor to have you the last three years as a chief. uh you just did a tremendous job you and PJ uh commanding this department, bringing it into a uh new direction. And from what
I'm told, because this is my first year up here, this is probably in decades, the most workable situation between the police department and the town government. They have been
a real pleasure and an honor to work with PJ. A few months ago, I remember sitting up here and we were pro uh couple I think we're bringing in a new officer and one thing was brought there's a few
officers uh out of that 135 that have the honor of being legacy officers and PJ's one of them. Um his dad served this town for many many years. And the other thing I've also realized
up here is as you grow up in town yourself, of course I'm tad older than all them, that some of these people have real names. I never knew for the longest time that PJ was Paul. I never thought of it.
Um, so it's different things you got to adjust to. I mean, I never knew her name was Veronica. I thought it was always sis. You know, it's adjustments we make got to make through life. But PJ, you've always done the town and
your family proud. We we've seen how you've been serving through the years. Your list of accomplishments. Your family, I'm sure, could not be prouder of you. I know this committee and people in this room. It's a real honor to see some of the retirees out
there because I'll tell you the biggest thing anymore is we see officers and we're like who are they if you have your uniform on because you're all young now. We're used to all the retirees and I know there's some that's even come
up to me and asked me are you one of my daughter's dad and I go who are you realized you know these guys grew up too you know they're not two and a half three foot tall anymore Sam I don't really know you know of you
and I've heard nothing but good things one thing I want to thank you for is your military service um we would not be in this room being able to do these kind of things if it wasn't for the men and women that come out and serve our country to give us this opportunity. And
for anybody in this room that served in the military, thank you. And not I don't want to get repetitive, but I think the most unique thing tonight besides these excellent excellent promotions that we're very proud of,
Chris, it's a possibility. I think you blew the whole place away with that. >> And if you're embarrassed, you deserve to be. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. Loray. Wonderful
comments. Um, >> everyone had wonderful comments tonight, but I'm going to bring everybody back to three years ago when we were doing interviews for the now Chief Kenny job.
So, we interviewed Chief Kenny and we interviewed Chief Sullivan individually. So, I want everyone here to know what happened during those nights. It was a long long interview process and they were alone. We're sitting right in front of here,
right in front of these these front where their families were and we would talk to them and I remember distinctly because I've been on Earth 57 years and I've never seen something like this before. When we asked each about the other, these guys were in competition
with each other to get a position. When we asked each about the other, they couldn't have talked in more glowing terms. We even asked them to repeat sometimes. And I and that's when it hit me. These guys are tight. They're pretty
tight in this room. So that happened. And none of you were here. Only the governing body was here. But that happened. And it happened at each juncture with each question. How would you handle it? What do you think
what he does? and that happened. So, you have some fine gentlemen up here. That's the truth and the governing body knows it because we were up here during that process. So, I want to thank both of you guys for that. um in the past, we talked
on the phone many, many times to both Chief Kenny and and Chief Sullivan, but in the past few months in particular, um educating me on, you know, what happens to police after, you know, when they go home, what happens to police after retirement, some of the things
that you think you should all know, but you don't unless you hear it. So, I want to thank PJ and Chris personally for telling me that stuff because it gets you to look at things in a different way. That's from the heart and that's
the truth. So, I'm looking forward to supporting the blue like I have like we all have. Um Sam like Committeeman Laray I haven't had opportunity to speak with much but if we all remember before CO
the elephant in the room in all of our towns for public safety and public health was the opioids the overdoses everything that would happen the street crime and when he's sitting there in the drug unit working on stuff and then people come I get a coffee at wa what's
going on what's going on I don't know what's going on because I'm not supposed to know what's going on. So the Chief Kenny will tell you you're a very different kind of department head. I'll tell you what I think. You do what you think you should do because you're chief of police and I'm going to say that and
I've said that already to Chief Sullivan. So there I want people to know there's things going on with the prosecutor's office or investigations that these guys are keeping us safe, especially in the drug unit with dangerous characters and Route 9
and people from out of state. These guys and these ladies are keeping us safe doing that stuff. A lot of it we'll never know about. On purpose, I don't want to know about it, especially if it's an ongoing investigation with the prosecutor's office. Uh somebody without
documentation, a federal case that could happen anytime some one of these people in here in blue pulls somebody over. So Sam, for all of your F FBI information, the things you've done, your military stuff, stuff you worked on. I'm I got a daughter in this town. I got skin in
this game. I appreciate it. So uh I'm just I'm grateful to all of you tonight and uh I appreciate it. Um I want to remind outgoing Chief Kenny, as mayor, I am able to conduct weddings. If you want you want to do something, we
can figure it out. Bayfront Park is nice. I've done a few down there at the gazebo. I feel bad. I don't like doing that to people. That's all I got, FOLKS. At this time, we would recess this uh
fine gathering of people. Um I know you may want to be involved in deep discussions about township committee business, but please go out, have a good time. You're welcome to stay, but please take the opportunity, exit. Um, and I want to thank you. Heartfelt thank on
behalf of everyone up here, both elected and unelected. Heartfelt thanks. Thank you. >> Pausing the tape. >> Good. >> Resumed. Yes. Back on. >> You need to be at home. >> Item number five, storage pod extension request, 1902 Witcom Road.
>> Okay. The resident at 1902 Wickcom Road. >> Yes. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you, sir. The resident at 1902 Wickham Road is seeking a 30-day extension um for the two storage containers that are on their property. Um 30-day extension would bring them to December 26th. They're just not complete
with the um projects going on in the home. >> Have we extended them before? >> We have not extended this property before. >> No, they get um I believe they get an initial 30 days and then the zoning officer is allowed to approve for two additional 30 days. So, we're going on
120 days if we approve it for 30 days. Okay. I have no problem. I mean, December 26th to say like January 15th or something like that. >> Yeah, I think get it past the holidays. >> Okay. >> I'm okay with getting it past the holidays. >> Are you okay with a 45day extension
then? >> Yeah, I'll make a motion on that 45day extension. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Item number six, special per special use permit pies on 9 south popup event December 6, 2025.
Kais 9 is looking to do another popup event in their parking lot on Saturday, December 6th from 11 to 2. They plan to have eight vendors there and for those that are um food vendors, they have already applied for their board of health permit separately. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes.
>> Mr. La, >> yes. >> Mr. Williams, >> yes. >> Yes. >> That is all I have. Motion to move. >> Second. >> All in favor? I Township of Lacy Township meeting November 25th, 2025. Adequate notice of
this meeting has been given in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act pursuant to public laws in 1975. Said notice was advertised in the Aspberry Park Press in the Beacon and was posted on the bulletin board showing the time and place of the meeting. We will forward to item number one, first
reading. Ordinance number 2025-017, amending an ordinance of fixing and determining salaries, salaries, wages, and compensation for the dispatchers union. Ordinance of the Township of Lacy, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, amending an ordinance entitled
An ordinance to the Township of Lacy, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, a fixing and determining the salaries, wages, and compensation of the officers, employees, and members of the governing body of the township. Um, like you said earlier, this is specific to the dispatchers. >> Move it. >> Second, >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pennis,
>> yes. >> Mrs. Giano, >> yes. >> Mr. Le, >> yes. >> Mayor Tera, >> yes. Item number two, resolution 2025-313 authorizing the execution of a collective negotiation contract with the GWU dispatchers union
>> resolution of the Touchy County of Ocean State of New Jersey ratifying the terms of agreement and authorizing the execution of a collective negotiation contract with the GW. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Tennis. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliana. >> Yes. >> Mr. Le. >> Yes.
>> Mayor. >> Yes. Item number three, resolution 2025-314 appointing an emergency management coordinator. >> Resolution of the township of Ly County of Ocean State of New Jersey appointing Paul J. Sullivan Jr. as emergency management coordinator for the township of Ly.
>> Second, >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliana, >> yes. >> Yes. Item number four, resolution 2025-315, appointing a deputy emergency management coordinator. Resolution of the Township of Lacy, County of Ocean State of New
Jersey, appointing Samuel Deisala as deputy emergency management coordinator for the township of Lacy. >> Second, >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Lay, >> yes. >> Mayor Kton, >> yes. Item number five, resolution 2025-316
authorizing a leave of absence. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State, New Jersey, authorizing a leave of absence for Deborah Simpson. >> Second, >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Tennis. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliana. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laray. >> Yes. >> Mayor Kto.
>> Yes. And number six, resolution 2025-317 authorizing an interlo interlocal services agreement with the county sheriff's department child restraint program grant. >> Move it. >> I always do that. >> Resolution of the township of Ly County
of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the execution of an interlocal service agreement with the county of ocean for the child restraint grant program. Move it. >> Second. Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes. Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Le, >> yes. >> May
>> number seven, resolution 2025-318, authorizing the execution of a schedule C agreement with the county of ocean. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean, state of New Jersey, authorizing the execution of a schedule C agreement with the county of ocean. >> Move it. >> Second, >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Kennes, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mayor Kola, >> yes. M number eight, resolution 2025-319 awarding a contract for the purchase of natural gas. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey awarding a contract for the purchase of
natural gas to UGI Energy Services LLC. >> Second, >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Pennis, >> yes. >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. Laay, >> yes. >> Mayor, >> yes. Item number nine, resolution 2025-320, authorizing the refund of a maintenance
guarantee. Resolution of the Township of Lacy County of Ocean State, New Jersey, authorizing the refund of a maintenance guarantee for a road opening permit. >> Second, >> Mrs. Juliano, >> yes. >> Mr. McDonald, >> yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes. >> Mr. Laray, >> yes. >> Mayor Ker, >> yes.
>> It number 10, resolution 2025-321, authorizing the refund of deposit monies. Two refunds in there. Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the refund of deposits held for the use of municipal facilities. Move >> it.
>> Mr. Lraine. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pennis. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Juliano. >> Yes. >> Mayor Cutoto. >> Yes. >> Item number 11, resolution 2025-322 authorizing the payment of township bills. >> Resolution of the township of Lacy County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, authorizing the payment of township
bills. This is in the amount of 1,352,32657. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kenn, >> yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Laay. >> Yes. >> Mary. >> Yes. It number 12, motion to approve caucus meeting minutes from November 13,
2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> And number 13, motion to approve township meeting minutes from November 13th, 2025. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. And number 14, motion to approve executive session meeting minutes from
November 13, 2025. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Comments from the public this evening. >> Sorry. Comments from the committee first. >> Public should be >> change it up a little. >> Let's change it up. Comments from the
committee. Deputy Mayor Kenneth. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, you know, I was going to talk about the OCUA, but I think I'm going to just wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. So, those are my comments. >> Wow. Fantastic. >> You stole my lunch.
>> I had some things planned, but we don't have enough people here. Uh, unfortunately, and so I would just like to wish just remember that we've got servicemen throughout this world standing guard. So, Thanksgiving, say a little prayer for that. And I wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Thank
you so much, Committeewoman Juliana. >> I'm going on board with the same thing. Happy Thanksgiving. Good to see everybody out tonight that was here with the families and God bless them all. >> Wonderful comments, Committeeman Laray. >> That means I can't say no more than
that. Right. >> That's right. >> You're on you're on you're on a 10sec. >> Happy Thanksgiving everybody. >> I'm going to close with a 12minute prepared. >> No, you're not. No, you're not. We'll override that. >> Happy Thanksgiving and I wish and hope
that God walks with all of our police officers. Wishing all of them the very very best and >> thank you so much. >> And just remind everybody we have a our annual Christmas parade on December 7th begins at 3:00 at the Methodist Church and proceeds west here to the building
for the tree lighting ceremony that evening. >> And we had also I believe pancakes Santa pancakes with Santa that morning at Lenogar house. >> Yep. Open the floor to public comment. >> You can move
>> you. It's on wheels so it will roll right over. >> Thank you, Tom. Appreciate you. Thank you, John. >> Regina Desenda, Sunset Drive, Sunrise Beach. This is a slight continuation of
something I said at the last meeting, November 13th. Someone pointed out to me I meant you'll get yours from God, not me. And please don't anyone of you ever cut me off like that again. More appropriate would have been to be slightly polite and say, could you come
back after everyone else speaks, but I see on tonight's agenda, we're not going to do that anymore. Not say to a member of the public, do we have to listen to this? I would have kindly waited, but you came at me just like Will Zinsky did to Richard October 16th at the school board meeting. This
town has a real problem with First Amendment rights when people say things the powers defeat don't want to hear. As an alternative to what I said at the last meeting, contemplate this. I was actually considering a letter to all Lacy residents with a copy of Miss
Juliano's handwritten statement, but reading it here was way cheaper. A mailing to 12,000 people would have cost a lot. And the meeting the meeting comment here is free. Someone called me after seeing that meeting on YouTube and the person asked me, "Were you saying
Peggy committed perjury?" And I had to say yes, but my lawyer said it would be a difficult case and I didn't want the school district to pay for it. After six years, I could no longer hold in what had happened to me. Veronica, I did check with the board of elections. They
had no complaints from Lacy about me as sheriff candidate visiting the polls. So, you weren't exactly telling the truth. Yes, people can complain to you on election day, but unless they put it in writing to their employer, the board of elections or the county clerk, it was
an invalid attempt on your part to discredit me at the last meeting. You also should not be commenting to or at the public since you are not a committee person. It's true I politely handed Mrs. Louise Quist a note in front of a room full of people that said almost the exact same
thing as I told Peggy here in person. And I'm sure she might have shown it to you. And as far as I'm concerned, you are all still puppets for the lacing machine because there's no balance of power here in Lacy. It's all tilted to one side. I do miss Mr. John Adams. Now
I'm done. >> Thank you for your comments this evening. Other comments from the floor? >> I just kind of like >> You have to come up to the microphone. First of all, >> state just state your name, please.
>> Yes. My name is Andrew Napoleon. Um, I live in Lenoka Harbor. I've been here since uh 30 years now. And I just want to say I love Lacy Township. Thank God for Lacy Township. Um, I moved in. I left a bad situation. I moved to Lacy
Township. Um, my kids were newborn to seven. Okay. And thank God also for the Lacy Township Police who came to my rescue at one time when I first moved to Lacy and arrested the father of my kids.
He got four years in jail. So to be honest with you, I have a history here. But goodness to say that my daughter became a doctor. Okay. My two sons and and and they all were raised here in Lacy from like I said birth to seven
years old. My daughter's a doctor, my two sons became engineers, and my youngest is a behavioral therapist for the younger generation working on her master's degree. Um, at 49 years old, um, all the kids, you know, they left the nest and went to college and
everything. At 49 years old, my mom was diagnosed with dementia. I was 49, okay? She was in her 70s. My mom has been living in Lacy Township for the last decade now with me. Actually, I have somebody watching her now while I come
to this meeting. Um, I did write a book. I know you guys are all familiar with this book. It's called Grandma Has Dementia. And it's our true life story with all my kids in it, my mom, our a situation that we've um experienced. And
I just want you to know um I raised money and awareness for this for this topic because I'm 62 now. Okay? There's people my age that are now taking care of their loved ones with dementia. And I do I raise money for
breast cancer and wounded warrior and um the veterans and things of that sort. I really don't see anybody around here making awareness and and and raising money for this um very very big cause that we all have to deal with. But it's
one thing to like literally be sick and then it's another thing to lose your mind. Okay? And if you lose your mind, who's going to take care of you? Thank God. I used to always say, you know, thank God I have my mom. Thank God I have my mom. And people used to say to me, thank God your mom has you. And then
I just realized it recently. Thank God she does really have me because who's going to take care of you in this situation? So we need to make the township more aware of this subject. Um and we have to come up with a cause. I see. Listen, there are medicines out there. I'm going to tell you, take your
parent off the medicines because it just makes them worse. I promise you it does. I've told this to many people. they got their parent back for at least two more years if they took after they took their parent off of all the medicines that they say that are they're testing take them off doesn't work. I've been taking
care of my mother since 4962. I'm telling you. Um I have a lot of tidbits, a lot of information to give out. I feel um so Murray Grove, everybody know where Murray Grove is. At the end of this month, um actually it's Sunday at 9:00
in the morning. I need my township, all the people in Lacy that their their parent is exposed to this to dementia, Alzheimer's, like to come to this meeting. All the money goes to the women's Alzheimer movement and it would
be nice. I'm gonna try to get somebody big. Like I'm really hoping to get like a Bruce Springsteen here. Um his mom passed away from dementia, Alzheimer's, somebody really really big. Like we need to like make this happen. and Lacy like I'm going to all these events and I'm
talking to all different people men and there's a lot of people that their parents have Alzheimer's Louis body we have you know Bruce Willis with Louisbody we have um you know um you know Bruce's Bruce Springsteen's mom we
have all different people I can name uh Jay Leno's wife he's now his the wife's caregiver and the list goes on and on and uh we are working better now with the cause. And let me let me just tell you what they're finding because I study this subject all day. Ever since I'm 10
years old, I've been taking care of my mom with my grandmother with dementia. And when I moved to Lacy 30 years ago, I've taken care of many, many people in this town. Their m their mom who their teachers in this town, we got Peggy Ran, we have Maria Thompson. I mean, I could
go list on and on because it was word of mouth. I I've been I'm a hairdresser. I took care of their parent as if they were my parent. So I have so much knowledge, so much passion for this subject. It was like God put this, you know, prepared me to take care of my
mom. So I'm I'm actually kind of like begging. Um >> can you give us the date and where it's going to be again? >> Yes, it's Murray Grove. Um it's this Sunday at 9:00 in the morning. Actually, Al from Jersey Shore Car Show is also
going to be there. He's helping out with this with this event. To be honest with you, we don't have that much time. It's March March 8th is the event at the Captain's Inn. I don't know. Um, you came last year. It was a wonderful event. Um, and hopefully this will be a much even bigger event. Raise more money
and more awareness. >> Wait, Mr. Nolan, if I can. >> So, uh, if I can. So, I didn't know you would be here tonight. I'm sorry. We know. And I'm I'm glad you're here. You're you're a resident and this is an important as as our county has over
220,000 people over age 62. It's becoming the elephant in the room. >> But we we have been supportive. I've seen yet a number of the Jersey Shore car shows. I've taken pictures with you. We made some Facebook posts. I was there at the uh event at Captain Zen. So
public health issues and items. That's one of my platforms up here. So I'm I'm looking forward to supporting you. But uh I'm glad you invited our colleagues, but we have all been very very supportive. >> Oh, absolutely. My goodness. I I couldn't even >> Mayor, you know what? I was I had spoken
to her um at the car show and I had mentioned to her maybe we could put her in touch with Heather and maybe Heather could invite her to one of the senior lunchons. You know, >> that's a good idea. Great idea. Yeah, that's I was thinking she'd be a great speaker for that. You know, >> I have your cell. >> Yeah. And also if you could um maybe
give me information about going to the public schools in our town and like speaking about this subject but in a fun way because this is it's a great book for like the young kids and the teenagers and my son will probably go. He all my kids graduated from here.
Okay. So and he's in the book so for him to like come and also talk to the people and make even the younger generation aware because they're going through it too. >> Yeah. >> So um yeah thank you for giving me this opportunity. I really appreciate all you. I love Lacy Township and you know,
God bless all of you. Happy Thanksgiving. >> Put you in touch with Heather. Thank you. >> Yes. >> Other comments this evening? >> See, now make a move. >> Okay, Rich. Mr. Bitnik, welcome.
>> I'm sorry. much different. >> Blame Regina. >> No, I do. >> I blamed her before. So, >> my jacket. >> Okay. Um, good evening, Lacy citizens and members of the township committee.
Um, I'm stating this as the chair of the Lacy Citizens for Responsible Government to start off my comments tonight. One of our, if you look at our charter, it's basically about transparency, honesty, and accountability and fiscal
responsibility of our elected officials. And I want to make comment to something that happened at the last meeting. And I'm This isn't personal, okay? This is business. I'm just saying this so I don't want people to get mad at me and thinking I'm personally targeting. But
Mrs. Giuliano, you cut off a person who is a taxpayer in this town and a former elected official actually about a very legitimate complaint that she had. And I like to remind politicians that there are consequences for your actions. And
this is the opportunity where a member of the public can call you out for the actions that they feel that you have done. I'm not going to get in the middle of a squabble because it's none of my business. I mean, we'd hardly hear about it here. I'm just saying I don't appreciate I'm
fighting for people to have a voice and we're cutting back people's ability to even be able to speak. And that is very authoritarian. I'm I'm just telling you, it's just terrible. And on top of that, I have a message also for our board president, Mrs. Clauss. You targeted me
for lifting the school's logo to promote the candidates forum, but you did not target the candidates who also lifted part of the logo for their campaign material. You literally spent public tax dollars having one of the school's
attorneys not only research this topic since I have the legal bills, but you had the lawyer send me three threatening letters. You also acted alone without board approval and spent tax money going after one of your opponents. This is
exactly what another former board president did when he went after Regina, Gavin, and Sonia. >> Mr. B, can I ask you I'm not going to cut you. I just need to ask you one question. >> You're reading a letter to Miss Claus. >> Yes. And she watches she watches these meetings,
>> but she's not here. But m Mr. Bick, it's almost like you're going to an apple orchard and you're looking for freshsqueezed orange juice. >> I want everybody in this town to know what is going on. Okay? And that is my right to speak and say what I have on my
mind. It's about political business in this town. This government body gave that school a million dollars. So, you don't have any right to cut me off because I have qualms with what's going on over there. Please continue. >> Okay. Thank you. >> This is exactly what another former
board president did when he when he went after Regina, Gavin, and Sonia. The Supreme Court recently ruled on this case concerning breaking ethics rules and obligations, censoring this former board president. What is even more gling
is you can't even claim that you you did not know that you could not do this because when you were running for public office, you wrote on social media from her campaign page, okay? Board members cannot act alone
for any reason. I will do my part and encourage all BOE members to act and govern as one and as a team. I'm looking forward to doing this with the Lacy district. She can't even follow her own
comments. Yet, she goes after people who are just speaking out about the issues. And she also posted, "Did you know the board has to adhere to a code of ethics?" This is absolutely appalling. Obviously, she feels that the laws don't
apply to her like many politicians in our country today. But I got news for you, Miss Clauss. They do apply to you. I hope for your sake that you will never even consider running for any public office in this town. You are the most
fiscally irresponsible government leader we currently have. You don't feel the laws apply to you. And I must say this, what a wonderful example you have set for all of our young people in our town by your actions. Absolutely disgraceful.
On another note, I was able to visit the Charles A. Smith Memorial Hall, the original one, um, when we had the inspection at the end of October. And one of the things that I noticed was if you just replace the windows and stained
the floors and the walls, you would have saved a lot of money by instead of having to buy another building and then put money into that. And that building does have historical significance for a lot of people in this town. I mean, if you read the posts all over social media with this, you'll know how a lot of
people are very unhappy with it. I'm unhappy with it, and I guess it's going to be appealed, the court case, and we'll probably take it all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to. On a final note, to the citizens of Lacy Township, I wish you all a truly happy
Thanksgiving. Let us not forget to be thankful for our friends, our families and the special people in our lives and to tell them how much we appreciate and love them. God bless. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir.
>> Yes, sir. >> Tony Rosali Sunrise speech. We're talking about historical events. We don't have a forket river game farm anymore to raise feeasants. We don't have a nuclear power plant any longer
yet. Our logo and a couple of years ago we were talking about changing the logo. >> Yes, >> I thought at one time >> there was some discussion about that, >> was it? There was discussion and uh I was just wondering is it now? Maybe it's the time if we're talking about historics and we're talking about who we
are, where we came from, where we're going, maybe it's time for us to get maybe the kids involved because they're our future. >> That's how it happened. >> Get some kind of a contest maybe going. >> That's how it happened the first time. >> You know, we tried it. Didn't work. >> But it was right there. That one.
>> That one. Yeah. But it's >> Well, Tony, you got to remember hopefully hopefully >> Yeah. The four modular reactors are going to go to go back in. Hopefully hopefully >> we're not raising feeasants with juvenile delinquents anymore. >> We raise geese.
>> Plenty of geese all over the place. >> That's right. Maybe we can come up with something else. >> Each Canadian tourist should bring a Canadian goose back with them. >> Yeah, I believe. Well, we're bringing in a Canadian company, right, for White where White Castle is. Tim Horton's aort
Canadian company. you're letting them come in and take our US dollars back to Canada. Okay. The So, you know, the geese have a right to, I guess, as long as Tim Horton can come. But I was just saying that maybe we should somewhere
down the road, especially if we're going to do something with the YMCA or the YW.CA. Maybe we can tie something in with that. >> A long way from even further down the road than we do right now to get something updated for our historical >> legacy. Thank you very much.
>> Happy Thanksgiving. >> Thanksgiving. Hope everybody attacks the bird. >> Thanks. >> Any other comments this evening? >> Seeing none, motion to close the floor. >> All in favor? >> I motion to adjurnn. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I have a resolution. Resolution 2025-323 resolution of the township of Lacy
County, New Jersey, authorizing the convening of an executive session in accordance with the open public meetings act to discuss personnel matters. >> Move it. >> Second. >> Mr. McDonald. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kenn. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lay. >> Yes. >> Mayor Hel. Yes. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Move it. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I. No further business. >> Yeah, we say that all the time.