paperwork. He had a listed amount of total brick, I think. How much do you know? No, remember we had the sheet here and all that. Does somebody have the sheets that Billy had given in regard that he gave everybody? Cuz well, I I guess that's probably you guys will have
to follow up on that. Um, and just look at how much Billy told everybody we were doing in brick, right? Because if if his amount was wrong or or something, then it could have result in a change order, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, And again, I think that needs to be
reconciled um just because of the the amount, right? One came up with double the brick pavers needed. Um and then more. And then is TWWQ also include the sad? Yes, because the other guy came back. I
mean, regardless of where he's at, it's a good comparative number. Unfortunately, Ivanas didn't break out their numbers. They just said 11,700. So, you don't even know how they factored that in. Um, TWWQ's plants are
considerably less than Robins. Um, so I think that they do have a competitive bid of the 431 131, which is all four phases. It's just that brick paving um is a concern. Now,
you could save $1,100 by going with DC for the irrigation because that can clearly be a standout thing versus TWWQ's doing 4500. So, you know, we're talking 1,100. DC is a good irrigation company. TWWQ, I don't think, is noted
for their irrigation. Um so to me that's a third option that I was looking at too um of having a real irrigation company come and do the irrigation. Yeah. The only thing I would think is as a contractor when you can
makes one person responsible for everything. It's a whole lot easier to maintain, you know, deal with warranty issues and stuff like that. But you could also use that and say, "Hey, listen, you know, you're you're higher than somebody else. You know, will you come down to match that price or something like that?" county probably
will you know and as you had mentioned grass um we we don't are you talking the mlly grass because we don't actually have sod well but LG brick came back because the whole information is saying oh we need to submit more because we didn't include
sod that's why I'm saying okay did the others include sod where was that you know different from even though their additional 3300 talked about circular brick pavers and sad made me think was that Main Street. That must have been the Main Street project. That's what I thought. Was that a Main Street quote?
That's the Main Street project. That's not this project, right? But it's included in this package. Ken, in this package. So that's why I was those were confusing questions. Sure. Yeah. I guess I was also wondering we increase the
size of the area the pavers are in. I just I wonder if that's a discrepancy that the original what we were going to do was just like on North Main and then we decided to make it wider I think from 5T to 8t. It I'm just remembering this.
I haven't seen it but I think so I wonder which one they bid on. We just need to make clear you know who's doing who's doing South Main now. Let's stay on Can we stay on this one? Yeah. And and I got another important
question was if I remember right, Billy had done a drawing and he showed us a drawing and we're like what about the west end of Inner Lake and Maine was not showing on the drawing. And we said that has to be included. Did that ever get added into this project
or or did he say they would take care of that through Keep Lake Placid Beautiful? They were going to take care of it through Keep Lake Placid Beautiful. But I I wanted to also just note that LG Brick Company did not come for that first initial walkthrough when you were participated in that with Dennis and
remember with Dennis who was the original one who was helping with managing this. Um so that may be a part of that because they they were guessing LG Brick was having to determine it based off of this the maps that we provided to them. They
did not physically ever come over here and look at the job. But but my recollection of that other meeting on um the intersection uh that you're talking about, Ken, was well, let's do that in a phase two. I don't remember Lake Placida
Beautiful signing up for it. It was let's do that in a phase two because we don't even know if the irrigation is going to be enough power to be able to get all down Inner Lake. Yeah, it's going to look horrible to do everything else and not do that, right? But I I get
your point. I mean, absolutely. I I was all for let's finish that four corners there, but you know, it was pretty strongly felt that let's we don't know if we're going to have enough power when the irrigation goes all the way down um
Interlike, East, Interlake to get what we're planning on doing now. So, let's get that in place and then we can look at phase two for those two corners. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm adding up the paper area real quick here. Um
TWWQ just texted and said they would take $1,000 off since the inmates removed the plants and the mulch. A thousand for what the inmates already did? Is that what you're saying? They would deduct a thousand from his estimate. And Charles said that that's
why he put a note that the labor may be less depending on time spent on the job. Well, there you go, Ken. Exactly what you said. Maybe they would offset the,00 with uh with that work because
there's still work that needs to be done. Other words, you got the mulch is going to go into the road. You know, you've got to basically dig down a little. Yeah. So, I'm showing 1362 square feet of pavers right now. Um, I'm gonna
just figure out this. Harry, do you know in the original RFQ did it say the quantity of the bricks or just submit these plans? It did not. It did not say it because I
put it out. I put it out on the bill. So, how would different you outline and tell them that it's up to their responsibility to come and evaluate the the the project and then we also had a pre-bid meeting for a walk
through that no one showed up for. Okay. So, we were we were going to be there available to them to answer any questions and to also provide the information and Mr. Bill Brantley was present for that so that he could answer questions since he was the
one who was the spearhead of it in January. So they would have been responsible for doing the walkthrough and measurements. They they did. Okay. So according to Mr. Leblanc, board
member Ken Leblanc, um so we need 1,362 pavers. Is that correct? So that would be 550 more pavers that TWWQ should put into their bid and then LG Brick could reduce
theirs. I think though and I don't want to speak for TWWQ for Alex, but Alex was part of the original walkthrough with with Mr. Brantley and also with Mr. Leblanc and with Mr. Murray. So I do you want to speak to your quote at all,
Alex? I was going to say it was it's on the pavers on the number of the pavers right and the numbers that are there. You want to look at it? Yeah, I was going to say and Ken, do you want to I mean you've got it in front of you with
what you walked down there with them on. Go ahead. I think I have I think I have a smaller I know that I'm making these I'm not even sure about that. He's got two. Yeah, he's got 48.
That's exactly what Yeah. Yeah. I love I want to go by the quote for the job. Well, I think you said and if your quote is off, it's kind of hard for us to do a comparative if you quoted something
wrong. So, typically, you know, this was the job. These are your quotes. These are the different company's quotes and you kind of go with them. Both of them are wrong though. What's that? The LG brick is charging us for,648 and it's only we only need I see
a problem with the drawings here and the problem is You see here it shows brick pavers and lines. I don't see see how it calls out and says how many square feet it is pointing out the pavers but there's nothing there. I'm trying to find the
overlap drawing. I can't find the drawing that overlaps and has you have to make it continue. This is a smaller thing of the same thing. Maybe you'll find it in there. Somebody got magnifying glass. Yeah. Use your phone and blow it up. This might be a more complete drawing than that. Yeah. Right.
Did you guys get Alex? Did you get these drawings? Yes. Or did you get those this he is? But I don't see the answers for that. You have to keep going. There's three pages. There's several pages. You have to take them and line them all up.
No, I I know that. But as I'm trying to line these up, I'm not seeing the connection of this that says how many square feet those papers are in this drawing. It's all in there. So if he got this drawing, he's got everything. If he had these printouts, he may be missing
something for some papers. You see what I'm saying? That might be the difference between the 1300 I came up with and the 15 or 1600 that somebody here pointed out, somebody else was calling out, which is different than the paper number he was, you know, calling out. So, and and this is so small I can't actually
see, you know, what those numbers would be. So, um, can you find the page that has that that corner on it? And maybe in the smaller print it shows up.
No, true. I'm just saying my eyes small. So, North Pine. So, here's North Pine. Okay. So, you're saying over here? Back of the envelope you did 500 some square feet.
So can So back of the envelope you did it's missing 500 and some square feet. Yeah. I mean so you're talking $5,000 would put it much higher over a bonus. It might. So but not it might. It does. Yeah. I'm going to I think that's a
7 I think that's a 726. It's got the best eyes in here. No, we don't need You got to find Oh, your phone. Zoom in with your phone. I can take a Yeah, while you do that, I'm going to write down all the numbers that I can find here and see what I
All right. It's hard to I mean the challenge here is right so I doesn't say how much square foot. So they come back and say oops I added it up. Those are your cost overruns. That's why it's if they're bidding on a job and this is the job and these are the prices
for that job. 126 square ft. 126 was the missing one. Says what? Yeah. Okay. 126 square feet. That missing section. Yeah. You look 126 you said. Okay. So, I got 126.
I got 90. Usually lots of times I'll take a picture and then blow up the picture. Where? I don't even know. I'll let you guys figure it out. All I know is what submitted. You'll let us figure it out and then you'll and you'll question it. So, we're going to figure it out together.
126 right there. 126 cuz that one can look like a seven. You don't look at it, right? Yeah, I know. But Ken's doing the adding so I don't know. No, I told him I told him 126. So, that's the only section that was missing. 126. builder.
Yeah, it's almost00 All right. This shows 1,038 total. Everything I just added up. I'm going to just add it up one more time. Yeah. So, 26 difference. Yeah.
138 is what I get. Now, that's off of these three sheets. Well, there's four sheets. And I'm just going to double check that I checked them all off. I just checked. Oh, hold
on. There's 30 square feet. I have to add to that. So, so 1068 little tiny piece there. Okay. So, I feel pretty comfortable. 168 square feet is the total. Um,
so based off these sheets, so TWWQ had 812, right? So 1,00 156 difference. How much
was 156? So 156 * 10 is 1560 extra. Um and LG Brick had 600 extra. So that's just interesting. Yeah. Well, there's a
little bit of a difference in square foot pricing between the company who's from out of town, right? Um I think I'm not sure about Joseé Ivan. Oh, no. Jose Ivan that didn't give us a square foot price, right? But he but he didn't break down the square footage. Yeah. Right.
Right. Which could have been the same on that. So you're at 10 925 a square foot was the company from out of town and Jose didn't say what his square foot price was. Although if he's he's accurate on it, if you were to take his 11
700 divided by this um second. It's on the back of your page right there. Thank you. 1,68 9,680. Sorry, divided by 1068. That would put Jose Ibanz at 1095
square foot, right? If it was based on the correct footage. So can't figure that because LG brick was nine and a quarter a square foot. So you don't know what they're charging. Yeah. You can't you can't back into individual companies money numbers. Yeah. Yeah. And and again
I'm going off of these sheets. I'm not going off actual 24 by 36 where I can see everything and match everything and so on. Right. But but again, um Charlotte, what were the vendors that bid provided a walk through number one and then these
charts? That's correct. Yeah. The charts that showed the total square footage. That's correct. That we were requesting with the maps that we have here. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Correct. They were provided with that. And so originally because Mr. Brantley was
working on it, he they did the walk through. Mhm. So then when we came back to the meeting, we sent out the RFP, we put it on bidet, and then we also emailed it to anyone who had already submitted us with a bid. Yeah. So, I mean, if it were me, I would say I would
give Charlotte the ability to I mean, I don't know if we have to decide who gets chosen or or just support Charlotte in making the decision, you know, after fully vetting these things and looking at square footages and everything else, but um, you know, I mean, I'm okay, you
know, moving forward. I mean, I think all said and done, I think Charlotte and town like Placet staff probably are the ones that need to make the decision. And I appreciate that they've analyzed things further and came to the conclusion that, you know, who they thought was the cheapest may not have been the cheapest, you know, through
further analyzing the bids. Um, so if it were up to me, I would say she could just go ahead and finalize the process, make the decision, and hire the contractor. We we decided at this point it is going to be a local contractor that's doing it. I think we're all in agreement that it's meeting that
requirement. Um, I mean, our goal is to get it to the 40,000 or less, right? Which I think we are there now with the exception of we're questioning whether or not there's enough paper in there. I I guess um I guess we could also I mean
we could also see if we can get TWW to agree to the job as a whole. That would be my recommendation is do all the papers one of the vendors didn't break all that you know and just he agrees that he'll do that and that price comes in at the
40,000 or less and then we just sign a contract you know that way you see what I mean and uh and he can relook at his he can relook at the drawings look at the square footages for the papers and everything else and if he comes back and agrees you know to do that then it's it
makes you happy you know I'm happy then it's not open-ended, right? Yeah. Yeah. And and in the end, we're going to expect him to supply the amount of plants per the plant schedule, right? Which he has listed out, um which was listed out here. I assume somebody's
maybe matched those, right? It's called accountability, right? You go out for a bid. Here's here's the information. I think they did a great job doing a walk through, requesting that, giving them, and then these are the bids. Yeah. Some companies itemized it, others didn't.
Yeah, at the end of the day, this is the price for that job, you know. I don't think it's I mean, we just spent 30 minutes calculating numbers, which shouldn't be our job to do. Yeah. It's like, you know,
I'm fine with going forward provided that that's the bid that was submitted for that job that we need to get done. Yeah. And I think we are looking for a motion. I mean there was some I don't think it's we can just unless that's a revised motion but uh they had put a couple motions into the package for us
to consider. I'm sorry. You're forward you're you're fine with going forward with whom? With which one of these or or combination of these? Well, before I thought we should go with DC for the irrigation, but I'm I'm fine with going
with TWW for all, provided that one, they honor the bid that they put in for the complete package. Well, they it's they include all the square footage of pavers per, you know, this the plans that were submitted, right, that were put out there. But I I want it based on
the 24 by 36 inch sheet of plans, not based on just um you know these. Right. Yeah. But you had the 24 by 36 inch plans. I agree. Right. All right. So, all right. So, yeah. So, that it's not based on the square footage of pavers you put on your bid. It's based on the
pavers on the on the plans. Right. So, you can take your you can take out the square footage on your bid and just put the lump sum in there. Say pavers per plans, right? And um yeah, and if you do that then then I I agree it's better to
have you do all the rest of the prep, all the irrigation, all the installation complete for one year. You're warrantying everything, right? The irrigation that you put in, not the pressure that comes to it, but what you did in there, right? And uh and I don't know what the warranty is for plants,
though. That I don't know if they're still stuck on the irrigation. I I see DC with irrigation at 34 $3,460. That's what I'm saying. I'm seeing that he gets the irrigation. TWWC can have the rest, but I still think DC
gets the irrigation, which is completely fine. I just I'm not doing irrigation. So, if I'm not, you know, no making sure the water is sufficient. I can't warranty the plants. Yeah, I understand that. But, but DC is an irrigation company. You are not. If and if and I can make sure that the water coverage is
great, then we can honor them. But you are irrigation contractor. Yes, sir. I mean, he does irrigation on my jobs sometimes. We're licensation on my jobs, too. Yeah. DC does irrigation for me. You do irrigation for me. But you are an irrigation contractor. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
he is, too. So, I'm I'm still stuck on a local guy as you are as well, I know. But DC for 3460. If we take that out of there, that budget, that bid comes a lot lower, a lot closer to the $40,000 that we're trying to get to. You know, the
irrigation is a very small portion of the overall bid project and the plants are the biggest portion of it and I'm just stuck on point fingers. You know, plants start dying because the irrigation's not working. Irrigation guy doesn't get
there. The plants die. you tell him he's got to replace his plants and he's like, "Listen, I'm not the irrigation guy. I planted them. They were alive when I planted them. It's not my fault they weren't getting irrigation." Right? So, I just think in the case of this, we when it comes to maintenance and and
responsibility, I think it's easier to have it as one contractor doing everything and being responsible for everything than having people pointing fingers at each other because DC is going to then point the fingers at you guys saying that there was no pressure. Maybe there was dirt coming through the lines or something. You know, it's just it's going to be this thing everybody's
pointing at everybody else. I agree completely with Kenon. For a difference of $1,100, it's better to have one company do it. Yeah. Yeah. And also, um I just did the we I just took off the
3,460 because they're going to reduce that because the prep's done that we had a phone call in. So that brings the total down to um 39,671 with that that issue. So we are within the $40,000 budget. Can you
clarify what you just said that what phone call that they're going to take off $3,400? Right. Because um Harry got a phone call from Robins for $1,000. Okay. So for the prep,000.
Okay. You took out 1,000 off your Yeah, a thousand. What's the 3,400 you're talking about? Okay. Who I didn't get I thought that we were talking about TWWQ and that they have prep and now that's reduced quite a bit. So
um I well I'm looking at their TWWQ's bid sheet. There's still prep work to be done. So it was Robins that called in. No, Alex said he would take a thousand off since the mulch and plants have been been removed. There's still prep work that has to be done to the plant beds.
And Robins said that theirs specifically says it may be less due to less hours that have to be worked. We still have a couple palm trees to remove by the roots and stuff like that. I think there's still some stumps that have to be removed. So the 431 131 would
be reduced by a th00and so 42 131 that would be the complete package including the necessary bricks unless our measurements were wrong. I have to double check. Would you be willing to come down more because our budget's 40,000. You're at 43,000 right now. You
know we still have 10,000 in there for prep. You know 1,000 you took out. So you've got 9,000. Do you think you got some wiggle room to get us down to budget at least? So, we're at 42. The only thing I do want to double check is on the square footage on the pavers. Yeah. Because if anything, I can just honor that I'll just change it saying
that I'll make sure the, you know, according to the scope of work, we're covered on the pavers, but then, you know, I'm going to be biting the bullet a little bit on that. I don't know that we can do what we're doing right now. Wow. I don't know that we can have one
vendor in and discuss with this vendor and and try to manipulate that quote without having the other vendors aware of what's going on and give them an opportunity to revise their quotes as well. I don't I don't know if that's legal. I think we should or ethical. I
think we should put it back to Charlotte and let Charlotte finish the process because she doesn't need to come back to us for approval. She just she's asking her approval, but in reality, she's got the power to make the final decision. Am I right? We don't have to make the final
decision. She does as far as who gets signed into contract on this. Am I right? I think because it's over 10,000, it needs to come to council. Yeah, correct. It's not It's not her decision. Chamber or council? Council. So, not us. No, I mean us. I think this board. I
don't have that. Who is I I can't make I don't make that decision. And it will be the the direction of the CRA board. Correct. Right. Yeah. Um I could I'm but okay since we went to monthly meetings I guess we can't have one the third
Monday. Um it won't because we're already having a monthly meeting today. So we could have another quick meeting on our new plan 5:30 the third Monday. I don't know. Can we do that and then we can go over all of this? Is that time to do the bids? And also um I have a
question. for the irrigation. I know Harry's been I mean he even got irrigation out in front of my place. So he's been doing wonders. It looks like the irrigation's in pretty good shape. So I'm not understanding the irrigation part of this. Could you clarify that
please? It's the jet things. Micro jets. Yeah. The micro jets. It's to put it into every plant that's out there. You got to get full coverage now. So he's got water to each location. But then the person that puts in the flowers or an irrigation contract's got to get water to all the plants that get planted
spreading out. The way it looked to me there's several markers. Maybe they were already there. So, so let's let's deal with what she said. So, um what Nell was saying, so if we have to make the final decision who gets hired, right? Um, are we allowed to sit here and
negotiate with somebody, you know, the final price or are we not allowed or do you have to go back and do all of this and then bring it back to us for another meeting? Of course, that's an attorney question who's not here. The reason I'm not too concerned is because this was a publicly noticed meeting with all of
these quotes that were of all of the companies for two months in a row now that were submitted. And this meeting also had a couple motions to recommended motions. So I think because of how it
was publicly communicated, I don't know that it's out of line or unethical. The other the other biders could have been here too, right? Yeah. No, I don't think so because it was not noticed that way. It was it was not noticed that bids would
be discussed. If it was noticed that bids would be discussed, then I can understand that possibly people did not show up, maybe they don't show interest, but it was not noticed that bids would be discussed. Bids would be considered, but it didn't say they were going to be discussed. And I just don't think it's
ethical or legal, probably. I don't know. I'm not an attorney either, but I just don't think that we are allowed to do what we're doing right now. But it does say agenda item B, request revision of bid award. All of the bids are in
here. There's the revisions are clearly stated. The revisions that are going to be discussed are clearly stated as sod and mulch or whatever they are, but they're clearly stated as those two things. Not going over this whole thing again with two recommended. But you
know, just two. It looks awful ugly downtown. It sure would be nice to get this process going forward and not wait another month to have to do that. You know, I mean, everything is prepped for somebody to go in right now and finish this job, right? But and here we're going forward in in a in a hurried
manner and spending money, $40,000 or 45 or whatever it turns out to be. And we're hurrying because we want to get it done quickly. And yet we're I I don't think we're going about this correctly. And I think it can come back and bite us. So he didn't. So when I look at the
cover sheet for today's agenda item, the recommended motion number two says award full project to TWWQ. Motion to approve awarding the full scope of the Inner Lake Streetscape
project to TWWQ and to Ken's point and authorize the town administrator to proceed with contract negotiation and execution in accordance with town procurement policy. So, I think that's kind of where we are right
now. And I mean, I'll make that motion. Yeah. Yeah. With the adjustment of the $1,000. Well, no, because it's saying to give the town administrator an ex, okay, to proceed with contract negotiation. So, negotiation is finish
that. She can get the thousand out. She can make sure he's got all the papers and however else. So, I I I agree with that. You second? Yeah. Did you make the motion? I make the motion. I read exactly what they have in there. I'll second. And if she can't finish the
motion, I mean, if she can't finish the budget, she'll come back to us, right? Is there any more discussion? Of order, please. There's been a motion and a second until the chair recognizes and a vote has occurred. No further discussion
can occur. Yeah, we're we're into discussion now. We have a motion and a second. Does anybody have any other discussion? Can you please repeat the motion? It's it's actually the motion that's completely written up here. Option two. Option two, award full project to TWWQ
LLC. Motion to approve awarding the full scope of the Inner Lake Streetscape project RFP number LP2025-03 to TWWQ LLC and authorize the town administrator to proceed with
contract negotiation and execution in accordance with town procurement policies. Yeah. Oh, and I second that. So, is there any further discussion the audience? Okay, I'm going to bring it back for roll call.
Yes. Yes. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So, going back to the agenda, I
still don't think what we did here was legal, and that's why I'm voting no. So, let's put that in the record. Okay. Um, I'll go down. Is there anything else from the audience?
Oh, okay. I had an update. It looks like Oh, it's not on here. Yeah. I can see all of your beautiful faces this way. I feel like I'm fighting to be able to look at all of you. So, I had to
come down here. So, community redevelopment agencies in Florida, as Councilwoman Charles said, and I've had discussion with several of you have been under the gun. So, so the community redevelopment agency supports the future of Lake Placid. We've talked
about what a CRA is. However, I know that because of the legislative action that's going on right now, I've had a lot of questions from people in the public. So, I wanted to reiterate this. A community redevelopment agency or CRA is a tool authorized under chapter 163
of the Florida statute and was created specifically to eliminate conditions of slum and blight in defined areas of a municipality. CRAAS are funded through a mechanism called tax increment financing or tiff which allows a portion of the increased property tax revenues
generated within the redevelopment area to be reinvested directly into the community. This reinvestment supports a range of eligible projects such as infrastructure improvements, streetscaping, beautifification, and enhancements to public spaces. The
overarching goal of the CRA is to revitalize underperforming areas and foster long-term economic growth, safety, and livability for the residents and businesses within the district. Next
page or next one. As we continue our efforts to revitalize and improve our community, it is important to remain aware of the proposed legislative changes that could directly affect how the CRAAS operate. Two bills currently are under consideration and they're listed here.
House Bill 991 and then 1242 and they introduce significant changes to the CRA governance and funding. If passed, these bills could result in stricter compliance requirements, more limitations on how CRA funds may be used and increase state
oversight over local redevelopment activities. Additionally, we continue to monitor the legislation the legislation related to CRA funding and reporting requirements. Recent discussions at the state level may affect how future funding is allocated or reported. So, we
are proactively evaluating the potential impact and ensuring that our projects are documented in full alignment with the statutory obligations for the town of Lake Placid where the CRA plays such a critical role, especially whenever, as Councilwoman Charles said, we just
started really being able to use this pocket of money. We want to make sure that we are using the money in the severely limited areas where it has a limited blight. Losing the access to these funds would severely debilitate the what we are able
to do in the downtown area. It's vital that we remain engaged, compliant, and transparent in our operations to protect the future of our redevelopment efforts. I have um tried to sign up everyone that sits on the CRA board for the updates through Florida League of Cities. You
should be receiving them. If for some reason you're not, please let me know. I I'd also send them out to you, but you should get them in your inbox. Eva, would you mind pulling up some of the pictures that we can look at? And she'll pull up the pictures and go through some of them that I had. I'm
going to read my notes. CRA funded projects support the blight elimination through street light pole replacement, sidewalks, Stewart Park electrical and pavers, um 151 Dow Hall Boulevard rehab, and the future of a playground there, the Taylor Park
improvements, downtown banners and benches. These are just some of them. And as we evaluate the impact of our CRA efforts, it's important to recognize how the targeted investments will directly contribute to the elimination of blight in the key areas of our community.
Projects like the street light pulp replacements and sidewalk improvements, both new and replacements, will significantly enhance public safety, the walkability, and the accessibility, which is huge. These improvements not only meet infrastructure needs, but they also
encourage pedestrian activity and business engagement in our downtown, which is the core. The upgrades to Steuart Park, including electrical improvements in pavers, as well as the rehab of the 151 Dhal Boulevard and eventually the installation of a new playground will transform an
underutilized space into an active, family-friendly community asset. Similarly, Taylor Park improvements bring green infrastructure and recreational enhancements to an important community anchor. Lastly, the downtown banners and benches will
strengthen the visual appearance and appeal and civic identity, which are critical components in revitalizing our commercial corridors and attracting economic investments. Each of these projects align with the CRA's statutory mission to address and remove the conditions of slum and blight
supporting the long-term economic and social growth for the town of Lake Placid. And as part of our ongoing commitment to a strategic redevelopment, we are in the process of the planning stages for the downtown revitalization plan through Central Florida Regional Planning. I do have a call with Jennifer Cotto Salisbury tomorrow to get a
timeline so that we can have that set up. I know that part of this was initially they we were doing the banners and the signs, but we were focusing heavily on the food trucks. And so as we worked through that process, she had said that that can sometimes take a little while because you see when you
come to the council meetings, it comes back and forth. We have to have the dialogue, make the changes, and so they try to take care of one and then move on to the next. But we we do have a call tomorrow. So I have more to be able to update you on that. The master plan and that process will directly address streetscaping,
lighting, pedestrian access, and drainage enhancements, all of which align with the goals outlined in our CRA plan. Community engagement will be integral, an integral part of this process, and we will be scheduling workshops in the coming months. So, we can gather feedback from our residents,
our business owners, and the key stakeholders who are within the CRA. Allan was able to pull some of the pictures so that we could look at the the roads. So you could see some of the drainage issues that we have and also the streets and the reason why streets
are um in the infrastructure for the CRA. And I apologize for the stumbling. I don't have my glasses on so I'm struggling to see this. Is it pulling up? Right. I was going to say while she pulls them up, I'll continue so you can look at them and you can stop me at any
time. So why does a CRA exist? We have some population realities that we should focus on. And as we continue to work on as we continue the work of the CRA, it's essential to reflect on why this agency was established and how it directly responds
to the realities of our community. The town of Lake Placid's current population stands at approximately 2558, which is an increase over 7% since 2020 based off of our census. While that growth is encouraging, it also brings
added pressure on our infrastructure and our services that we provide. More notably, there are nearly 28.5% of our residents who live below the poverty line, more than double the state average of
12.6%. And I feel the necessity to say that again because I think we forget what our population really is sometimes. So, I'm going to say it again. Nearly 28.5% of our residents live below the poverty line, which means a lot of this
the things that we have, especially through our parks, having walkable downtowns, having appealing atmospheres, all comes into their quality of life and what we're able to provide. Our median household income is
44,281. and many of our homes fall below the state's average value, which signals ongoing economic challenges for the town of Lake Placid. With a median age of 41.1, we are a workingclass town with a significant number of families and older
residents who rely on accessible, functional public infrastructure. The CRA exists to help address these disparities by investing in targeted redevelopment, public safety, walkability, and beautifification, ensuring that the lake the town of Lake
Placid remains not only livable but also economically resilient. These statistics validate the importance of our mission and reinforce the need for continued strategic reinvestment in our community. and our redevelopment efforts remain critical to addressing the infrastructure gaps and
promoting equitable economic growth. So, our CRA plan alignment and accountability. As we undertake redevelopment initiatives, it's critical to ensure every project aligns with the town's adopted CRA plan. This plan
serves as our strategic roadmap guiding all redevelopment efforts and ensuring they are consistent with the core goals of addressing blight and advancing infrastructure improvements. Whether it's streetscaping, lighting, drainage, or upgrades to the community facilities, every project must be evaluated through
the lens of the CRA plan to confirm it meets both the statutory requirements and the specific priorities identified for the town of Lake Placid. Maintaining this alignment is not only key to maximizing the impact of our investments, but it also upholds our accountability as a CRA board and
positions us to remain compliant with both state oversight and the local expectations. By operating within the framework framework of the plan, we ensure transparency, effectiveness, and the long-term success of our redevelopment
strategy. I had a few CRA board reminders that we had from last month. We are looking for your feedback on design for the street lighting for the examples. Some of the things that I have been able to look at and Allan and I
have been talking about are dark sky compliant. I didn't know that that was such a term, but I'm learning a lot about lights. We want them to have a downward cast. We looked at LED LED decorative posttop. I've also looked at mission
style with black iron and clear lens. Believe it or not, these are all components of when we're looking at what the lights should be. And then the park benches. Um, do we want stainless frame and recycled plastic? Um, do we want composite with teak style finish? Do you
want curved black steel with armrest? These are all things that we will need to know so that we can move forward with the other projects. In closing, I want to emphasize that the CRAAS play an essential role in revitalizing the town of Lake Placid. Through your support and your
leadership, we've been able to advance projects that do directly improve the quality of life for our residents and stimulate economic growth. I know it feels like we're slow moving, but I really believe that once we can get this moving that it's going to just flow. It's taking us just a little bit because
it is a new CRA. It isn't. There are new projects there and we're also have new members on the board. This is the first time I'm a new member here to the town. But I do I am confident in our staff. I believe that our staff are working very hard and I think that our board is as well to be able to move the things
forward to make Lake Placid better. So on behalf of the town and also the staff, we thank you for for what you're doing because we know that a you're you're not paid very much to do this. So we know that you're being selfless servants and we appreciate you. Any questions for me? Can you back
up a chart, please? Which one? I mean, that chart's saying that you're waiting for feedback from us on the lighting design, whereas the last meeting and the minutes are saying to support continued evaluation and defer decisions until a portion of
the revitalization plan is presented. So I thought it was kind of pushed into the workshops that Jennifer is going to be having. But but this is saying you're waiting for us. That's correct. So in Ken had brought examples and then in the
last meeting we said if there was a type of light that you all would like to see because the one we that he presented wasn't wellreceived and to bring them to us so that we could look at them. But that's not what the minutes are saying. The minutes are saying defer the decisions until the downtown
revitalization plan is presented. Right. The decision, not looking at the examples. We are looking for the examples from what the council would like to see and then when we go through the workshop, we'll provide these to them as well. The workshop would be with the public, correct? So, you're going to
present to the public what we recommend. I won't. This will go over to Jennifer Cotto Salisbury with the Central Florida Regional Planning and they will be the one conducting that. So, we wanted the examples from council to be able to have to provide to them and then they will
also ask the the public what they want to see. Does she have any examples from her work with other cities and stuff that she could give to you to show us also or is it just got to come from us? No, she can. I actually I I believe I've
emailed to everyone. I have a plan that they provided to us before and it has street option, street lighting options in there and it talks about street. Yeah. Yes, it's in there. It is. I believe I emailed it to you. Yeah, I I think you did actually. I think the Sebring circle, those are nice lights,
too. Very I'll take a look at those. Yeah, take a look at those. They're I think it's just a top fixture. The current polls we have are similar. And it's got a very bright lights. It just need We need the light to shine down, you know. Yeah. Yeah. But I did find
that even if they look like they don't shine down, they do. They do. And that's what I have found. The ones in Sebring, not just in Sebring, just if you look at them, they can look like our lights that we have downtown right now, but they shine down. They still shine down. Yeah. It's a way that the the top pieces
inside the light is in here going down versus right now, we have light bulbs that are just sitting up and just go out, right? And so we need them to come down. Okay. It's not on the agenda and it's not noticed and I think information is good. We don't need to have it on the agenda, but discussion about this
without notice to the public, I don't think we should be doing that. I really do appreciate Charlotte's input, but we are getting into an area where we're discussing something where it's not been noticed. So, I think we should press on.
Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So, we'll do this. Okay. to the public. Anything else you have to add add, Alex? Comments? Do you have any comments? No. Okay, I'll take it back to the board, Miss
Charles. I guess what do we still have on the docket as part of our 24 25 budget items? I mean because and again the comment I made earlier, it seems like a lot of the
things we budgeted were now waiting for these workshops to take place and and I appreciate the we're all working hard but I tell you one of our biggest risks is going to
be terminating CRAAS through legislation. I think hasn't that started backtracking? Aren't we making progress? It depends on who you talk to. So, there were some revisions made, but they're not quite getting the legs
as much. I'm just saying we had 300 and some thousand this year that we were going to spend and we're continuing to put things on hold for these workshops. So, is there any status on the workshops or is
there something more now that the landscaping is kind of well on its way? What were the next projects that we were going to be looking at and could they come forward to the next meeting with some recommendations? I think I I really think what we're waiting on again we're
getting into discussion. This is just please for comments and yes I think maybe every meeting we need to have a financial attached to No, excuse me. No, you we're doing a roundt of what I would like to see in the next meeting.
I'm not having a discussion of that. It's just and maybe it was long leadin that now that we've got landscaping that behind. I'd like to see some ideas from staff on what are the next projects that were part of the budget that we should
be pursuing. I I agree. It's a good point. I think that um maybe Charlotte the next meeting you can come back and say okay now that we've put all this behind us. Let's you know focus on this this this and this and let's try and knock other things off. I think that's time for that now. Yeah. Okay. It kind
of skipped me here. It just like you know flipped right over. That's usually discussion but um I would like to see what Jennifer has to say. Cotto Salsbury because we're paying her money to give us suggestions
and for us to move forward without paying attention or at least hearing what suggestions we have, that's how we throw away money. If I could make a comment, I just wanted to say that um we don't have to spend all of the money that we have allocated
for this year's projects this year. We have a timeline that we have to use the money by, but it's not in this fiscal year. If there are some if the money rolls over, we can roll money over for next year as well. It'll just be in in their budget for this year. To clarify,
I keep wanting to say it's either I can't remember how long we have. I think it's five years. Five years we have to use the money we collect this year. So, um, okay. Point well taken, Mr. Leblanc.
Mr. Any comments? Um, wasn't there a provision in the bill that there would be no new projects? Then that scares me. Do we have to get something on the books to get protected?
I think they took that out. Yeah, we did. They did. Um, can I say something, Harry? We were talking earlier today about something. Is that something that we should bring up here? uh regarding the clubhouse at the uh
bicesentennial park. Yeah. So yeah. Um so what we were talking about was you know we've talked about closing in that area and making outdoor covered area for people to sit outside that
building. Right. And um I put together well there was discussion about putting a metal aluminum pan system there and everything but I think we discussed that that would be kind of cheap and cheesy and we shouldn't be doing that. So then um I put together a budget to do it in
conventional construction you know um and I I gave that to Harry and he was looking at it and he's struggling finding somebody who's willing to do it. You know of course I'm a contractor and I'm on the CRA board so that seems like a real conflict of interest. So I I honestly could care less who does it as
long as we have somebody do it. Um and um um so um so I don't know what the plan is. I don't know if Harry's, you know, still looking. Are you still trying to get other people? Talk to Joe Misana or somebody. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, so the question is this is and I know it's a conflict of interest if I do it, but I think you talked to somebody uh was it Bert Charlotte? Okay. And um I'm throwing out
there I don't mind doing the job. I don't usually do small jobs like that. I don't mind doing it because it's doing it for the town of Lake Placid. I do realize it's a conflict of interest. So, I'm perfectly okay not doing it if you get somebody else to do it. But the question becomes, can I do it if you can't get anybody else to do it, right?
It would be a lump sum contract, you know, and I even offered to Harry that if the town can do it without a licensed contractor and do it internally, I could give them all the subcontractors. I could help them, you know, put it all together and stuff, but I think that's not I don't think I think he found that
that's not possible. Am I right? I don't think we've even seen what you proposed. Yeah. No, no, I know. I know. We just again again we're getting into discussion. I love the comments. I do, but we shouldn't be discussing it without a notice to the public. Um, so
yes, that's good comments about we need to keep our eye on that as well. Maybe we need to agenda that. Um, these all these comments we need to address, but maybe put it on the agenda for next time. Yeah. And maybe put it on the agenda and then maybe what we do is we get plans drawn um you know, certified
by, you know, an engineer sealed kind of thing. Maybe that's actually what we ought to be doing. So maybe next agenda we could have a discussion about this and maybe approve the ability to hire somebody to do plans. Maybe if we give plans out to other people, they'll be more interested in putting it together,
including legal input. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a project that we could spend money on move forward. That's in our plans. Yeah. Okay. Miss Charlotte, no. No. Okay.
I didn't know if we wanted to ask Mr. Harris anything and so we had asked him if he would if he could take a call. He's on standby if necessary. Okay. Hey, real quick. If if you guys are going to do a call and stuff, I'm going to bug out. I got to take somebody to the airport. So, if or if we're not closing
right now, I'm going to bug out. Okay. Well, all I have is my comments left and I just wanted to thank staff and the powers that be. They're painting the light poles. And if you haven't seen them, how fabulous they look, how it's like night and day. I mean, they
actually shine and make everything in the downtown area look better. And it's not easy. They have to get extension lab. They have to get up way up there on the top to paint them. But boy, do they look good. I just wanted to say thank you. I wanted to make a comment on that.
Um May is mental health awareness month and oh Councilwoman Ibrahart and I were on a call with the joint call with the HGTV and we were talking about it because I don't know if everybody has seen but um Chef I always forget Chef Mac right and everything that happened
and so it brought that up and Sebring lights up the whole downtown with um the blue is it? No, it's I'm sorry. It's green. It's green. Green is mental health awareness. And so I thought that was something really neat for us to maybe plan future.
And I think that they said that u people it um causes awareness because people are saying, well, why is it green, right? And then the discussion starts, right? So just wanted to add that and it does look very good, Alan. Thank you.
Okay. Hearing no other comments, I will adjourn the meeting at 3:25. Thank you. Thank you.