community redevelopment agency the regular meeting Thursday February 6 2025 at 2m Frank harzel is going to lead us thank you Frank for leading us in our our prayer and our pledge please rise let's pray Lord Jesus we stop and give you thanks for the many blessings for our town of Lake plid Lord I lift up this this group gathered here the council uh for wisdom knowledge um this discernment I ask that you would
um bless the decisions made today um and we praise you for um the town we live in and the blessings of this great nation we ask that you just watch over us and guide us and we give you the praise and the glory in Jesus name we pray amen amen and I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all thank you Frank okay um could I have roll call please mayor Holbrook council member Hayes here council member warley here council member Charles here council member everard here board member harzel here
board member Leblon here thank you um we're gonna go ahead and move on to the consent agenda which is the approval of the agenda and approval of the meeting minutes for December 5th 2025 do I hear a motion so move second thank you um anything from the
audience okay I'll go have joy okay hearing nothing from the audience I'll go ahead and ask for the vote council member Hayes yes council member Everhart yes council member warley I don't vote in the capacity as vice mayor thank you the C
on the C oh I do okay yes the council okay yeah I didn't nobody told me that distinction okay yes that's what I council member Charles yes council member I'm sorry board member harzel yes board member LeBlanc yes okay I would ask that everybody here please um put your mics down speak into
the mics I guess YouTube has said there's some some problems hearing people so if we all could help us with that um is there any public comments um any anything from the public that you would like to get up and talk about okay we're going to move on to uh three on the agenda keep Lake pled beautiful an updated plant list and suggestions
you guys have copy of the plant LS that we have yes you do um yes okay last Monday we uh there quite a few of us Met Myself Alex uh Ken Jose ivanz and I think a few others anyways we we met till after dark walking up and down Inter Lake hitting all these Planters and kind of going over kind of kind of a basic Arrangement but volume of plants numbers of plants types of plants um on this list you could see from page one to three
um the bottom number in the little uh key that's the quantity of plants then the corresponding um abbreviation will show you the plants that are over on the side we try to pick something that didn't you know it's some of them are going to require trimming maybe two three times a year we try to limit that we did no fire bush we did no ly um so we went ahead and picked things that have color that have little to low maintenance um and what we thought looked best we tried to mimic match some Island Islands across the way from each
other so if one had a magnolia we did a magnolia cross one had um the ferns we did Ferns and just try to go down there and kind of get a consensus then the next day I put everything on paper we uh gave it to the engineer and he came up with this um map in the the U abbreviations and quantities there are some things that are not on here um we have islands that are just one step off of Interlake he does not have these on this map but we did plan on doing those with the planners then also the two
large islands that are in front of next to wall right I guess to the uh uh west of of Walgreens and west of uh the bank so there two big Islands right there so we got those on there too so the plant list is a little bit off um the AAS I think he says 240 I had close to let me see what I have I have 326 so the plant list needs to be updated um I don't think a lot of
the council council members really care as far as how we loc or rearrange the plants we're just looking for the approval of the plants and the Styles and the types that we're that we're doing um the chief was also there to make sure that we didn't go any higher than three foot or uh lower than 5 foot when we come up to the intersections for safety as far as that goes there are a few locations that we decide to do pavers there's some very small triangles that really don't lend themselves to um Landscaping so I think we have three or
four spots that we plan on Paving running irrigation to it and in the future we'll do phase two will'll do maybe pots down in Lake that match Main Street um also the second phase The Palms that are across from watula State Bank or whatever it is now Walgreens and where those cabbage Palms are we're just going to clean those out we're not going to irrigate those right now nor put plants in there um one for uh
we're kind of concerned with the irrigation as far as volume of water so the Cabbage are already established they do not need water like everything else does so we can cap that water off make sure we have enough water for the planter beds and new plants that we're putting in and then later we can test if we have the water volume up there then if we want to put plantings underneath those U cabins we can do that later any questions Ju Just can you clarify this is great so but the plants up above is
there a key to which plants are going into which of these islands yes his key is a little confusing yeah right so so really the the 0 five 06 doesn't really correspond with anything so if you look at the the COO is the cie cie pals then you go to like DWT is is the dwarf uh uh
tipini you know so there's the numbers on the plants don't really show that but the names do correspond to the plants that are shown so let's take an example of Stewart Street in Inner Lake that little Island right there it says FAS 33 co37 so then I go look over in the bottom key where it says FAS and that's aelia is that how I would yep and the coutti and the and the bottom number is the quantity each island okay that makes
sense so we try to limit it um we have 12 different items that will be going up down our Lake you can see the different from the zelas all the way back to the CRP Myrtle um some of the ones we only have one or two or five and that was just kind of matching what Landscaping is already there and kind of you know get it symmetrical as far as on different islands and across the street so um as far as as Bert would say hand grenade math by time we figure the
plants the cleanout um we have to lower the beds because the mulch some mulch is blowing out um it was consensus to get rid of all the red mulch no one's a lot of people aren't fan of the red mulch anymore I think it was talking about doing some kind of chip bark or a bark but a smaller bark less chance of it floating out of the Planters um redoing the irrigation uh probably with microjets and then replanting everything and REM mulching it so there's probably going to be four or five different bids that we would quot we' have to go out
and get um and like I said hand gr a math we're in the 45 to $50,000 range is where I kind of estimate when everything comes together I did speak to Captain pendarvis with the sheriff's department um he says we will he will allow trustees to come down which can probably do all the cleanout so they can strip the beds pull all the mulch out they don't have the capability to pull the stumps out but at least they can do all the manual labor put it in a dump trailer and haul away all the mulch so that might be one bid that we won't have to get other than just the uh
um The Well Harry did test the well um I think it say like 80 gallons per minute so we should have enough to do 220 to 240 micro Jets and heads throughout the planner so we should have adequate irrigation for all the new plannings that we're putting in can I just make a comment just a reminder that we do have the $155,000 for the plant so keep that in mind when you're looking at this from the pipe bursting project so when we're
looking at possibly if we go ahead and move forward with this we would need to be able to look at our current budget for the CRA and see if there is a project that's in there for 2425 to be able to move some of that money because we're going to go over obviously if we have to do this phased approach and we would rather in our discussions we all agreed that it would be our best interest to go ahead and do this up front so that we invest in it now and get it out of the way um one of the items and we will send this out after
the meeting if so that you have it so you can look at the CRA um budget and see what's in there we had looked at the the park benches even though we know that that's already on there for the 2425 year there's $15,000 that's in there because of the park benches being the composite that they are they are very I mean I know that they're not the most appealing because of the color and Alan explained that when they first came out that color options were not a choice but composite is very durable and it
lasts for a long time so it may be an alternative for us to slate that to another time possibly wait until after we get our master plan from Central Florida Regional planning for the downtown area so maybe just move that back just an idea some different things obviously it's up to the council to decide but just one of the items that I felt like we could probably bring forward and after we've discussed it with our group they thought that would be a sufficient area to pull some of that money as well just something to think about and and I and I had
um in the last meeting said that the 32,000 for the uh SE septic to sewer that to me that's fair game just move take that out right so some so we can vote on that at the next meeting because we'll be able to have a better plan on what it's going to cost for sure we'll have some estimates for you to look at and then we can vote at that time to move and reallocate funds as needed and with the CRA my understanding is as far as you can't pay for maintenance keep Lake PL are beautiful
do does have some funds to be able to pay for maintenance up until next fiscal year when it can be added into the uh General budget um you know our our funds come from Steins which unfortunately going down 27 those were $1,000 signs each have all gone away so it's kind of hard for us to Bill our our uh sponsors when there's no sign out there so so our revenue is dramatically down this year and then the money we get from keep America beautiful has to be spent which we can use for fertilizer to fertilize
it once these plants go in and some of those other things all right so these drawings are great um they just need to be tweaked right so I assume over the next week or so you'll get dentist to tweak them and get everything straight on them and you'll put them right out to bid and the idea is by the next time we meet next month we'll have bids on all this stuff that we could then talk about and vote on is that the plan I I know I don't have Kevin here right now but Kevin worked on the the
$15,000 and so the way that that is set up is it's going straight to keep Lake plasta beautiful so they will handle the plants it's going to be the other items that we need to get the quotes on to be able to go out to bid um Dennis had an emergency and that's the reason why he's not here so he's going to work with them on updating this so yes that will happen Okay so some of the stuff is done directly by them some of it'll be paid for by us correct but um but we have to get all these quotes in and we have to finalize everything which is going to be at the next meeting meeting I mean I don't know that it's going to happen but
if the numbers come in before our next meeting I don't know if we can call a meeting early but um you know March 9th is coming up really fast I mean there's probably no chance we could get any of this done before then I mean maybe cleaning them out but be nice you know our goal was to get it done before you know the show aired in March but uh if we can't get it done by then maybe we can get it done as close as possible to that right and I agree with you we can find money you know the extra money we need out of things like park benches whatever there's plenty of places we
could draw money from I feel you know to make it happen but you know I'm just be I'm behind getting this thing done as fast as we can you know so and I think great start and I like the plans everything that you got here I think it's great what um what I think too is we're all focusing toward March 9th that's when the the segment is going to air people are not waiting in Avon Park to drive down on March 9th they're going
to make their plans and then I I think we probably have a good month after that you know to get ready because people aren't going to be here right the next day very few but um you're right Ken we we have to pretend that they are because that way we get things done um what tweaking are you saying that has to be done just the amounts of plants quantities okay I think I think Billy's looking for all of us to to look at these plants and tell him we're happy with the plant selections that are made today you know know I'm happy with them
um you I don't know if that's something we vote on or something but um do we need them to vote on that well I'm happy with the plants too if anybody cares I'm I'm ask them too I I am also I and I like what you said there somewhat low maintenance right because thinking forward as much as we can because yeah we don't have much you know right understand a few times a couple times it' be more weeding than anything else probably correct but I like I like the colors right that's what's going to be nice and the variety of colors they complement each other so this will be
our Interlake plan and then we have the Main Street continuing to move forward waiting for the pots to come in so I don't know if we're going talk about that after this yes um or now I don't know oh yeah we've got pots next we it's on the agenda okay would would it make any sense to sort of coordinate what we're going to do out front of this building along with some similar plants to what we have here or is that just too far distance to make a connection there just wondering can I make a comment on
that um I don't and Gibby I know it's different but Gibby met with me and the Chamber had a grant that they were able to allocate the funds so it was it's supposed to be a surprise but since it's coming up here when we have our council meeting on Monday out around the flag pole and everything will be beautified and they also had enough in that Grant to go ahead and their taking care of the front Harry's been working more closely with Gibby on that I don't know if if you have any comments on it but it's going to be done so there's a lot
happening he's already checked the irrigation the irrigation is there so it this will this is all going on okay cool yeah just my other question is so when I'm stopped at Interlake at Maine okay to go west and when you cross over in front of the bank Robin the bank mural is there a way that we can extend and complement that island with some of this and the reason is because that that
is a great corner of a lot of traffic and I love the the plantings on Maine with the the purple flowers and that I mean it's just so eye-catching when you're stopped at the light right you kind of look around and beauty of plants is nice so this kind of stops at Maine right and we got it does because just you know when we started doing that hand grenade math and it started getting the 45 50,000 we knew it'd be a stretch to get to that so to keep extending both you sure keep going both ways but but I
don't think we have the funds to do that that's the reason we were saying that was we spoke about doing all four corners the two end caps and the Four Corners U with more annual or uh uh flowers and stuff like that that was a thought but that's going to be phase two as far as with the U same with the cabbage and and um the other story there I I agree though I think we should add that to this project and we should find the money the Four Corners that four corners has a lot of traffic can't be that much more money and you sit there
for quite a while you got two of the corners in it I think yeah and and by then we can get an estimate you know like I said hand math I'm saying probably $2500 $3,000 to do the irrigation clean out the planter beds and plant all those plants you know should should be more than enough um but by by the time we meet next time we'll have an idea as far as that goes to so I think I mean if we have to have another meeting out there and tell denst to add to the you know this map some other things on that corner I think we should do it and make it part of the quotes and just get it done now so we don't have to
revisit I do I do think that there's probably a second phase a year or so down the road with some of the other areas but I think these areas should be part of that phase and when we walked through somebody had mentioned I don't remember who it was said maybe some of these islands are too big and we should use some pavers to make them smaller um so when we walked through we we agreed on that and we added pavers so as you look through this there are some areas of pavers and in those P areas we also felt because irrigation is at those PA areas that we could do a stub up and we
could do some pots there also so um now those pots are not identified in here that I could see um but I think it somehow someway we should make those happen whether it happens now or in another phase um if we should put the irrigation in now when we put the papers in um and if we stub up then people are going to be worried that it's tripping Hazard so they're going want to stick a cone on it so if we're going to stub up
then we should either put the pots in now or we should put an irrigation box flush to the pavers and put the irrigation in the irrigation box just around irrigation box so I think we need to decide whether we want to try and do the pavers as part uh the pots as part of this project or tell them to put in an irrigation box at each of those paver locations that pots would go so that we don't have to tear it up later to put Irrigation in right that's my thoughts right few things as far as that as far as the Iration in the pots it's pretty simple you just cut it below the p and
mark the one p you got to pull out to get to the pipe that that's so we're not going to have a trip Hazard we can put the irrigation in there now and just Mark the p and and pull it up later as far as I I I get you want to go around that Circle we're not sure we got enough water to do exactly what we're doing now to expand the the the volume of water that we needed to put out there when we don't know if we have enough to do what we we want to the place we want to put in we want to make sure everything's going to work and everything's going to get real irrigated to go go further and
and not have enough irrigation then back up I I I don't want to do that but we're talking phase phase two phase two could start the day after phase one you know you w have to wait for a year so once these plants are in irrigated and mulched we know what kind of water volume we have then we can say okay let's send out to bid to do these other things yeah and if we find we don't have enough enough irrigation then I think we need to come up with the cost of boring lines you know digging lines adding lines doing whatever we have to do to
get the irrigation to where the irrigation needs to be there's nothing worse than planting things and having them die you know which is what's happened over on um the crosswalk on one side you know where the irrigation was an issue and the plants we just planted have died already you know so um irrigation is very very important and if we got to spend money to make the irrigation right I think we need we need to sorry Jack in and and you know and unfortunately we kind of have thought that there's some braks in the line we have now that we haven't found
so that 80 gallons at the well might not be 80 gallons once it hits the planner bits that's the reason I want to we know we get water there exactly if we have enough to do everything we need to do we don't know um we're hoping it will but to reigate the irrigate the entire town and drill another well in another location that that that's a a very large large undertaking that's a huge undertaking and um I would be doing the staff and this Council a disservice if I didn't taking hone in on the fact that I
we are very excited about httv coming we are very thankful for the volunteers because Mr Brantley volunteers for this service for keep Lake pla beautiful but we have to keep in mind that we do not have enough staff with the current projects that are going on to undertake this at the extent that's being expressed here um and that's just the reality our our team is running on all ends all the time trying to make sure and meet that and so again and we're very excited about HDTV but when we sit
down with um twq we sit down with Mr Brantley and our team together this is going to be the best approach is for a phased approach and for us to make sure fiscally we can meet the demands of what is being asked and it is a huge undertaking huge undertaking to look at the the irrigation and a a huge expense that I don't know that the CRA or the council will want to explore and that's just being very transparent huge is huge so so as far as the HDTV I question
how many people are coming here I I don't think my my thing is as far as I'd like to see phase two finished before the Clayton Festival we know there's there's going to be way more people coming for the Clayton Festival than this HDTV that we're hoping on um so my long-term goal is have phase two done before the Clayton Festival um and councilwoman iart I don't have an exact amount however we've discussed it because we don't know where the lines are this goes back well before Allan and
Allan you've been here 20 years so in order for us to even be able to look at that it's going to require busting up to be able to identify and so we're going to make a bigger mess and then we don't even know where they're at this is a this is an item that we're trying to discuss internally with how do we identify them how are we going to find out what's there what their capacity is and we don't have a handle on that yet I like it I like it a lot I like the
colors and the combination and everything so I mean again just that one corner in front of the I've robbed the bank that if we can't get to it with this to kind of theme it in then as soon as we can and then maybe there's a few dead plants we can just remove some plants and it is what it is but good job thank you anything else thank you thank you far we'll have the Rev PL list um he he was going to reach out him and um Harry
were already working on that he has any questions then he'll reach out and ask you but he's gonna work on doing that between now and next week okay thank you Alex did you have a comment thanks good good job Bill thank you suggestion go ahead um I just everyone was saying I agree a lot of things I just if we could like what Ken was saying work on a budget now since we're already kind of bidding and we already walked it if you want to add those areas not that we're going to do it now we might do it phase two like Bill same but at least it's
there at least there's a budget at Le at least we know how much it's going to be maybe we can pull it off maybe by the time we get all the bids we can pull it off maybe we can't but at least I think we should at least try to present it and then make a final decision actually we can go ahead and do everything we want or let's just hold off but we really know how much it is for next for phase two and as far as the watering you know as soon as we do this we we can see how much water we have and how much the coverage and we might be able to say hey we might determine we have enough water for pots so then we can add it in but
then we already have budgets for the pots we got budgets for the flowers we got budgets for the other area it's already set we already have the mean we everyone agreed on it we just have to wait to set up the initial phase one plant everything see how the irrigation works and if we determine hey we got enough water to do phase two with the pots we don't have to do boring we don't got to do all that we have enough pressure it it should be a quicker just kind of make it just a little quicker you know to to you know have it ready I'm not saying let's do phase two now or
try to figure out how to come up with the money but maybe we can at least have a count a plan count and get a budget you know um ready for it and then we can see where the water goes once we do the installation and and see where we're at with irrigation we can see where we're at I agree with Billy I mean you can leave the the pipe underneath Mark Mark A a brick that you could pull up later that's fine we know how much the pots cost because you just ordered pots so we can order those later very easy like you said if we know that there's enough water to water what's there and then water the pots then we could pull a
brick order the pots put them there that's easy enough the one thing I think we should do so I don't think we really need to do anything in regards to the pots now because we pretty much already have it figured out um you know because you know cost and all that stuff and Billy's idea is a good idea but I do think that we should try and add to this plan the other end of in Lake and Maine um and just let it be part of this whether we do it now or not or you know somehow but I agree get it in the plan now while we have Dennis working on this get Dennis to finish the playe complete
you know because you know for some reason might not everyone we can do like an extra line item for that a phase two bid and just have it separate yeah just have like a separate bid to see listen if we have enough budget to do it and enough water pressure you know we have the next meeting let's kind of jump on it or if we don't then we'll have to hold off and see and once this is all done if we find that we have a problem with water I think it just needs to be brought up as fast as possible I mean we could throw another well in for probably $5,000 somewhere you know we could we
could cut part of the the irrigated area off if we need to and then put another Well somewhere else or or whatever there there's means and methods and I don't think it's going to cost us $100,000 to deal with the irrigation but you know but I don't want to plant all this stuff and just have it die you know yeah just throwing it out have heard other towns they they sometimes for FL especially for flowers that they they tap into the city water so I don't know if with those pops are access to City Water there might not be that big of a deal to tap
in some of those areas just to tap into some C City water to cover those pots that might be an option I don't know yeah it might be just an idea but and I do want to add I I think during this meeting I don't see it as a budget discussion item but we should go over each of the budget line items where are we and then determine if we've got an opportunity like councilwoman iart said there are a couple items on there that you know we can either push into future years or even question if we need them
at all because this should be a big priority right a very big priority and this is what the town uh the people have told us they want and this is what we want so I would like to today you know call it new business or what but we should just go down the budget real quick the budget line items and I think we can do that real fast to say anything happening yes no or maybe Eva saying no we can't we don't have the budget available to you the we have this budget available what do you mean we've already
approved a CRA budget right I think it to be the agenda I mean we can we can what I was going to say is though remember in our La in the previous meeting we had said we weren't adding anything new so the only projects that we have going on right now are the pot project the downtown flower pot project and then also Dell Hall which we haven't gotten to so nothing else on the on the budget has been done for 2425 because we had voted to go this route with focusing on
this project okay that's fine but what we can do is then determine what we have in the budget that we could use for more plant if need be so maybe we should just wait until Monday I mean I'm we can't Monday because Monday is a town meeting not a CRA no I know that but I'm just saying um this is in front of my property I'm just seeing I I asked to be at the walk about and I wasn't invited okay this is I mean the only goric tree
is in the whole project is in front of my property and I don't want that it's I don't want that big giant tree in front of my property there's already um you really don't have to do much it's at the it's on three do you want to see my property um it's on three where North Magnolia comes right into basically almost it basically hits my property so those two beds in front of my property um the one on the right has already has
the Box plants so and they've been they've done well without irrigation um the uh pipe bursting thing did mess a couple of them up because they ran over them I mean they're still kind of okay but maybe a couple need to be replaced but I won't want this goric tree maybe a a tree aelia would be nice I mean it does would be nice to have some height in that one giant bed but not this goric tree it's the only one on the whole
street and I don't want it the picture example is a pretty large tree but the the trofa we that's the idea was a small get some height in there and when we plant it it's not going to look as big and with the pruning one pruning per year will keep it small I'm just saying this is my property and I don't want it I I'm sorry yeah um it's the only one on the whole street and I don't want it I mean I would like something different maybe that flowers like maybe a I don't know if you've seen the tri oelas but
they have aelas so I'm assuming aelas are okay but a tri aalia would flour um hibiscus are too water sensitive I think um but you already have aelia so and um I needed to ask um Harry our street person um anyway I think that the tree I don't know I think we have Harry sorry Council councilwoman do do is
there Irrigation in front of my property now yeah and and those little um boxwood plants have done well without irrigation the palm trees is dying so I didn't know
that so there's two things here I'm going to go ahead and water it again because it's definitely not seasonal it's turning brown so I'm going to water that but if I could you could just let me know if you do get irrigation I don't want to overwater it but right now it needs water and and I'm not complaining I'm just saying I as a I just want to keep the Palm alive yeah
well no I'll Water it I have no problem watering it but I do not like this tree de I remember that so we we were going to add more boxwoods in and we were going to take a few out right in the middle to put something in the middle um so yeah if you don't like that one I think we could find something else to put in there um you like crate myrtles I mean I mean we have which we have on the list do you see something else on this list that would be you know replace that you'd be happy with yeah and we already have a CRP Myrtle out there in front right in front on the left the B left
bed um there's the the Desert Palm and a CRP Myrtle so do you like the CRP Myrtle you want to add a Myrtle's fine with me I just don't want this yeah so Billy can we just change that to a crep mytle yeah yeah okay all right so Billy would change that to Crate mytle change that to Crate mytle yeah yeah we were just I mean it's the only one on the whole street so I don't think that's a problem or what something else I mean I'm I do think it would be nice to have the hyp because it's a big it's a big
bed and there's no yeah and that would add that would add more flowers which I love the flowers so all right great Myrtle it is okay um vice mayor vice mayor can I just make one comment when we were talking about the budget I was going to say I was kind of talking about the budget we took a right turn cras are governed under chapter 163 there are a little stringent requirements public needs need to be noticed when we're going to be changing projects not moving
money changing projects so benches under a CRA is considered a project and you really have to have the proper it it's a little bit different than the council meetings I think in 163 so they are governed under chapter 163 by doing a move or a change of a project now without properly being on the agenda I think goes against that Florida statute and that's what I was concerned about can you change the timing of a project
so you keep the project on there you just pull one had push one back but you're taking money from that project so you're really canceling different year yeah keep the project just a different year can you do time it has to be properly we have to get that on the agenda to properly move the project from year to year so if you advertise it for next meeting for next meeting it'll be agenda and everything will be out and if the bids are here next meeting and then we we have we know how much money we're
looking for and it's been advertised so then we could decide to use the money that we were going to use for benches push benches to next year use that money this year for this we can make all those changes in next meeting so you're moving money but keep in mind think about moving projects we're moving money but we're going to move a project over and and and think we do and when you say advertise is it just the it's on the agenda properly we've got it out in the agenda p packet we got our bids out there and and the agenda
item saying we're looking to change project to this to this and the budget is shown in the data that's and the budet in in the project so we'll present it in a way in the agenda packet that it'll be properly uh to the public so I think one of the items that needs to be discussed is the 32,000 setic to sewer because that should come from the Wastewater Enterprise account you can't use CRA money or Town Fund monies for
the four Enterprises and I know when we started building the budget we started talking about that and we're like okay we ran out of time let's move on I will say though that I did get confirmation from Jennifer Cotto Salsbury with Central Florida Regional planning that line item on the CRA is appropriate because infrastructure is covered under our CRA so to say that it doesn't apply is inaccurate it does apply it's just up to the count the CRA to allocate that properly so it is
covered under C but common is it's an Enterprise so we're going to spend 32,000 and then the waste water is going to get Revenue back from that over time so I I mean agree it's infrastructure but it's an Enterprise inter structure and I think that's a little different and I'll I'll Chase it separately too but right we need to take that up at the council meeting and I think it it is I
haven't looked at the agenda yet today that that item's not on okay so anyway but um that's not for today's meeting from what I understand so um no but but just my comment is okay is if we're going to properly discuss budget money at the next meeting then we need to make sure that we agree okay let's put budget and if there's anything specific does it have to be specific at the next c meeting that we have to say ahead of
time because I agree this this is number one this is important we have areas we just quickly talked about that we could move around or something so I would like to be able to get that all properly in line so that the next meeting we can legally discuss it make a decision give in the budget and then go ahead we could adverti why I say advertise putting on the agenda with an agenda item that says say that the current 24 25 projects are
going to get relooked at or we can even say the next five years to realign our projects so something to that effect that says we're looking at the whole thing over again we're going to move some projects means you're going to move money and that way it's on there and you can look at the whole thing over again if you want and it's not going to change the capital Improvement plan you know that you passed but it what it does is it changes the projects you can do this
year or move move projects or cancel projects and then that'll give you guys time to kind of come back and it can all come together at that meeting we've got you know a plan how much is we've got bids and we'll see where we can get money to cover it approve it and go okay we have somebody at the podium please give us your name my name is Margaret deer and since I don't see any of of merchants here I want to say thank you thank you thank you for the enormous
amount of work that you guys put into this it is much much appreciated and long overdue only have one thing to beg and plead is that it doesn't matter who does it but please make people aware of who will be responsible for the maintenance so that the right people get the kicking and screaming when somebody screams because their bed's not being maintained or their flowers don't look good and all due respect council member whle I understand that you may not be
happy with what's going in front of yours but it is completely inappropriate for anybody to change their design for you when they don't go to this one they they don't like what's going on in front of their place or this one they don't like what's going on in front of their place that's just my accept the plan as it is otherwise it seems a little unfair that you're not going to ask the people what kind of trees or what kind of plants they want to go in front of their building respectfully I understand exactly how you feel and it's real easy but but it seems a little unfair thank you very much yeah and I'd like to
respond to that because I did ask to go on the Walkabout but we're all just getting this right now so um and I probably should have gone down to the podium because it is my property but as a citizen I get to say I mean it's my property and and this is going in front of my property so as a resident of the Town Lake PL said I do get to have input I mean it can be ignored it can be I I probably should have gone down to the Podium because it is a personal item I didn't think about that but I think
everybody knows here that I'm I said I'm talking about my property I'm not just saying it's just the plan the other thing is is that this does affect your property I mean you have your property you have one of the most major investments in your property and we're just getting this and none of the merchants have looked at it I would like this to go online and then everybody gets to see what's happening in front of their property I mean this is important to the businesses I mean I think that the
merchants I mean probably we could get this over to Ken Anderson he could put it out I mean I think that the public comment there's been no public comment on the plan and I think it I mean I'm just finding out I think it's important to get public input on what's going in front of your business and I don't know Frank you haven't had time to look at it either I mean Frank has property on inner L and um I just hear I hear from the public I mean and you can understand
if something you owned a property and you wanted the biggest investments in your life I know it is with mine and I've never had input on what goes in front of my property and I think it's only appropriate that we ask the people all along Interlake I mean I'd like to put this out there online so anybody can see it and also um I'd like to have it scanned and I'll send it to the Merchants Association and every everybody that owns property this is a big deal for people when you own
property what goes in front of your place if somebody came along where you live and put something on the rideway in front of your home you would want to have some say what they're doing so I'm just I'm just saying and I should have gone down to the podium because it is a personal issue but um I asked to be on the Walkabout I wasn't invited but but you couldn't because I think Ken was you could it was Sunshine Law violation I mean we all wanted to be on it but we only had to have one and we did
advertise this for updated plant list today so this has been an advertised meeting you know for the public to come I again I think you guys done a great job if there's a an issue that's um needs to be addressed and we address it so I would would just like to say that if that's what council would like is we can definitely put it out there um as you said councilwoman Charles that was the original plan was for us to
bring this here get the blessing from the council and once we got the blessing from the council then we can put it out to the public so if you're okay with that we can put it out there to them ask for some feedback and again there are changes that will come because Dennis is going to update that our town engineer to update some of the areas that Mr Brantley recommended our goal is to be fully transparent with everybody so that they know what's going on I I certainly agree with transparency but I also uh think it's important that we respect
what these folks have done and the plants that they've put in where they've put them um I feel certain that they did their best to accommodate the businesses that were there I'm sorry Deborah apparently they didn't look correctly at your place but um if we go along and ask um and allow each of the businesses that's on any of involved with any of these plants somebody's going to want patunas you know I mean we're going to go crazy crazy trying to figure out what we've got here so um I think it it's
possible that that they would there some of these um Merchants might come come along and completely not want what's there and want something totally different and now we're back to square one we're doing plants again so um I I don't know what the compromise is but I just think it does a disservice to the people that have gone along Mr Brentley and everybody else who went with him that went along and determined where these plants would go I I think that's a disservice to them if we do
that yeah I it is a balancing act again to if we get as by the same thought somebody's going to want geranium somebody's going to want petunia somebody's going to do that and it'll be a mishmash rather than a thematic thing and all the work they put in would be it be frustrating for them and then you got to balance with what the people want so can is there anybody here that has a huge objection to something right
now with the exception of Deborah which you already heard yeah I I think you know we need to have you know shown this in the paperwork so that people see it but yeah like like you're saying you know we put a lot of thought into why we chose what we chose we were trying to choose plants that have color but our low maintenance that will last for years so we're not having to replant replant rep plant and so there's a lot of thought that went into why we picked what we picked and
you know where we're putting them to go and stuff like that you know whether Deborah gets you know the The Crate Myrtle or that I mean they're both on the list it's easy enough to do but people come in and start wanting like you said patunas and things like that it's you know we'll never get this stuff planted you know if we're taking everybody's input um and we took the input from multiple landscape you know landscapers in town that all have a vested interest in our downtown you know and as well as others so um um yeah well I think we need them to to know what's
coming I don't think that we'll ever get it built if we ask everybody to come in and tell us their opinions on what they would like to see planted in front of their places you know what I mean and and they may not realize the the the parameters that were under with 3 foot 6 Foot rules and being able to see and you know and things like that and I just looked at these Maps you know briefly trying to figure out how many Merchants do we have that are you know completely affected by this and most of them there's only one or two that I see that
would really be um affected and Frank I was looking towards you to see what you thought about it because part of it is your parking lot and your business as well well and and that's what I I think with Bill I think he's flexible to okay we'll take that out and put something in and once it's put out to the public I don't think we'll have that many um people wanting to get involved we'll put this in front of my place and and you know your your main islands many of the islands are neglected as it is I'm sure you saw that walking the street last week I saw y'all out in front um but um
yeah I don't think we'll have a big problem if it is like Bill said he doesn't care what's there as long as it's something else that's put in there so if he has to change one or two plants and move one you know hopefully we won't run into that problem because I know the original planting I don't think any Merchants came out and said oh don't plant those palm trees or don't plant those cabbage palms and you know you you did it and I was happy and I don't believe we'll have
with plants whether it's the you know aelia or something else in front of there slow growing we are going to have push back when we do plant the rest of the uh fox tail palms because those are up they're high and they block people's signs so we we'll be getting push back for that but that's been we didn't do the U south side of the road because of the pipe bursting so when we put the Cabbage P or the fox tailes in a couple years ago um I know Bill good friend of mine bill nean he's not going to be happy you there's a few people that that want those c those fox tails get up
there but I don't think with these plants like you said as far as arranging them it doesn't really affect me I don't like I said as far as that that one and on his he has three of these Treats but is show on my plan only have one which was in front of U de's which yeah if it goes to whatever else you know doesn't really matter okay does anybody else want to anything
anything else from the council yeah I have one one thing um the kiosk that's going in that might uh impact what's going on here have we settled on where the kiosk is going to be located no ma'am we when we had the last meeting they have not they they're waiting to sign that contract and then decide where that's going to go okay I didn't know if something happen in the in no ma'am not yet can we suggest where
it should go we can I we can I would like to um I don't know what they will decide because that's being taken care of through the county I mean they want to hear where we would like to put it but yes I mean we can make that suggestion we have I thought we we we kind of tiptoed around that a little bit last time when we talked about um they wanted it somewhere in the town center and and it just made sense at the time I thought to that we said to put it near the
chamber or maybe in Stewart park right there by the chamber near the Chamber of the police department Stewart Park's kind of in between the two some somewhere like that seems to me to make sense I don't the restrooms are there rest that's I thought we said yeah yeah I I agree with those locations so if that has any if that has any impact on what you're doing I don't know just so you're aware Jennifer Bush talked to me the other day and she is telling me um she thought it should go at the journal
um this this is a thinking with Jennifer Bush and this I agree with what she's thinking the idea of the kiosk is you want it to be where the most people are going to see it and touch it and then it's going to tell everybody where everything else is in town that they may not already know is there you know in the end I don't really care where you put it but um you know the the Farmers Market at the joural plaza I mean there's thousands of people going there in a Saturday morning now it's it's just off the rails you know how many people
are coming and you know in many days it's it's you know there's a lot of people there so if you want the most people to see it and touch it it's probably going to be at the journal Plaza um if you put it at Stuart park or you put it at the chamber I'm just not sure how many people are really going to see and touch that sign and if they're not seeing it and touching it then you know it's it's it's not telling where everything else is so if it's for instance you know at the journal people touch it then they find out that there's
heart souls they find out there's new to you they find out that there's somebody who does you know paintings of flowers on Interlake you know they find out that there's the Train Museum they find out there's all these other things so I get the logic behind you know why she's you know saying that she thinks that you go there um in the end if you put you put anywhere you want I don't really care you know it's not going to bring business to the journal Plaza it's going to take business to places you know other than Journal Plaza right but if you want to put in the journal Plaza you
can easily tie into my power from one of my light Poes you can tie into my free Wi-Fi you know and I don't care you know that's fine uh but in the end like I said you guys put it wherever you think you know you should put it and it's not really going to make a difference you know to me or you know businesses down there hey Michael Noel and yes I do have two businesses at the journal Plaza but I also have a master's degree in business administ ation concentrated in finance and marketing and I was a business consultant for the State of
Florida for three years so I would recommend that you do put this somewhere where there is already high traffic where it will be seen and used and not make it a redundant source of the same information my businesses Place rack cards in the chamber and that's a place where visitors go into the chamber and they already look through those rack cards looking for that information those rack cards aren't supplied any anywhere else in town There's No Other location even if you looked and said well people
walk around they're going to walk up Inner Lake down Maine let's put it that intersection there's no room for people to stand around it crowds of people stand around it looking for that information so I would avoid redundancy in your resources the information that you're trying to get out to the public and put it in a place that's a landing place if you can find another Landing place that has a volume of people anywhere else in Town comparable to what happens at the journal Plaza put it there if you cannot
put it in front of the traffic so they can touch it and find the other parts of town they're already finding the journal Plaza we don't need to advertise that much more other than what the businesses are doing and the businesses are heavily involved in social media and are drawing a lot of people already that would be my professional opinion so Michael you're saying to put it in journal Plaza that would be the most logical and most useful place to put it because that would draw the most traffic to that
kiosk and more people will use it there than anywhere else that I can think of in town like I say if you can think of another place that has crowds of people that are going to walk by it put it there but for whatever it's worth the general Plaza draws more people than anything else in town I'm not sure how many visitors go into the chamber you can look at that number but we literally draw thousands of people all the time time I mean even on our slow nights if I've got 200 open tabs in my business
that means 300 to 400 people have gone through my business on any day if you come in there on a Friday or a Saturday we have thousands and that's find another place put it there if you can find more traffic but I don't think you can and and I don't think it should be in the journal Plaza up by the front sidewalk of the journal Plaza when Jennifer Bush mentioned that to me um I went to the journal and I looked for a place that it
would go that would be good and I put a cone where that place is so right where the flower garden along the sidewalk meets the pavers there's a little strip of artificial turf there right there at the pavers is where I think it should go and then you you're only four feet three or four feet from light bul you know so they could use the light pole to draw power from um that's where I think it should go so when you're driving down the street you'll see it you know it's obvious right there so you don't have to go to wet dogs to see it or anywhere in
the plaza it's up at the front sidewalk is where I think it should go where it you know people will pass it all the time yeah so I'll give another thought is and I don't know the numbers that Jennifer said before but quite a few people do come to the chamber the information center right the Welcome Center and yes I mean we all go to the journal Plaza and we know about the journal Plaza um and so a lot of that's the frequent people and they already know it's there but they don't know
what's at the rest of the town and and a lot of you know you see the people with the murals and you know Frank's on that main road too the people with the murals and they've got their book and they're trying to figure out where to go I mean I appreciate everything that goes on with the journal Plaza but I sure would like to see some more balance you know over by the chamber um uh you know we've got the restrooms there we've got everything there because as people start with the chamber then yes they can pick up the pla cards but there's going to be
more on this um kiosk than just the pla cards and that and I think that that's going to allow one they know about the plaza or yeah go there but look there's a train museum there there's this oh heart Soul's Market it has more than just meat it's a regular grocery store right next door is the purple Ira so I'm still trying to balance out the town with rather than something on the far North you know West Corner let's put something more Central by the chamber
you know because that's where a lot of people are coming into the information and the Welcome Center so I mean I I appreciate everything that the plaza does we have fun down there but also you're bringing people in to try to get them to know a little more and I don't see people having a beer at night and then going through to say oh that's over here the people who again come from the farmers market it's a lot of the regulars they're coming to buy their stuff and they already know the town yeah that that was my my thinking was
also that if you're coming into a town off of 27 it may back up the regulars know the journal Plaza but this would be for people who don't know the journal Plaza the first thing is they're going to come off 27 and go down Interlake so if there was something at uh Stewart Park and or the police station and there is parking in those areas that was we walked the street um in front over by the Journal because we knew that it was
an option that they might put a kiosk over by the police station Journal oh sorry police station Chamber of Commerce area there was a triangle area of landscape that um Billy we had said that we would put pavers on it seemed like the the right place that you would put a kiosk if you put a kiosk by the chamber it wasn't right in front of the chamber it was like off in Lake in front of the police department although I don't see that pavers are shown in it in in this drawing so we might need to add it back I mean if you guys want to utilize that
um location that that could be an option um but you'd have to draw Power um back to the police department building in which you're going to sell so you got to think about how to you know maybe bring power from the chamber over to there some way to to get permanent power to the location Mr if you could be patient for another minute we need to hear from our police chief um just just one comment about this I just want to be very cautious about where we put this
and to ensure that we are ensuring not to block views at intersections um I would also not recommend putting it near the papers in the new crosswalk there's already enough attention there for cars I don't want to draw any more attention away from the pedestrians in the crosswalk just to act out of an abundance of caution I would not put it there I would look for somewhere else down there if that's what we wanted to do thank you great conversation y'all really great but so
amazingly inappropriate not at all on this agenda it's CRA you've heard from the owner of Journal Plaza and a tenant of Journal Plaza and there is nobody else to put in their two cents about something that isn't on the agenda so can we please just take this as just general conversation because we've heard here say because nobody else has the benefit of an opinion and that again is unfair okay that for the record was um
Margaret deer and I brought it up because it may affect some plantings and it took off from there well there is a program that the county has that I think our Town Administrator has advocated which I think is a great idea there's a program that shows where people go and and she had used that to show us how the park usage who comes to the park and where they go after through the park that program exists and we might be able to
um it's the Placer AI data and actually the Count's working on it right now to get us numbers for the the country fair that just took place so we'll be able to have some of that information to bring back before it showed they go to Wawa so let's put it there that's where everybody comes in town fills up with gaskets or sandwich and they could see the kiosk boom done parking if only it were a bues why was just throwing that out I mean we might be able to get some data from that
just to help us you know whatever you all want to do something I think about too with the kiosk is it's it's got to be someplace where I don't know if we'd had 10 people there and 10 cars parking right now looking you know driving specifically to the kiosk but another possibility is John's Park um so you got John's Park the chamber and then on down to Stewart Park so um and there is a big parking problem down at the journal um whether people are going to O there's a kios let's stop and park they won't be
able to park anywhere down there but uh John's Park um there's ample parking for three or four or five cars that would stop there at a a particular time and keep in mind too that our Police Department building is going to be shutting down in the next two three four years so that building will be up for sale or so who knows what's going to go in there if it's placed in front of the um Police Department so and then on that inter section there's not parking there if you know that that intersection if
you go through there on North Oak um that's parked pretty solid most of the time through there so that's something else we need to consider I think so well the bottom line is is is is wherever it goes is it going to impact you and just trying to give you some okay Marlene bargar Lake plaset just a couple of
comments if you're going to talk about kiosk it ought to be on the agenda and I would recommend because the police chief at some point you to be talking with him on what are good places to put such a thing and what aren't you've talked about the chamber you've talked about the journal Plaza the chamber doesn't get nearly as much traffic as the journal Plaza I worked there for 13 years so I have some concept of that that's also a good location but my suggestion would be close it out tonight
put it on the agenda for a future date because what you're doing is driving people crazy you're talking about stuff we can't even hear most of it and it's not on the agenda and the police chief is the one you ought to be talking with first where are the possible locations to put it thank you is this even something that we're going to decide I mean isn't a tourist Development Council going to decide where this goes no I was it went off the rails I just wanted to have Mr Brantley know there was a kiosk
and if there was any plans already where it was going to go or not and this whole thing went off the rails yeah I think they're trying to get tours Development Council is trying to get get it signed and up as fast as possible so I just don't want us to slow something down that they're that they're responsible to do you know we don't need to get in the middle of something and slow it down so let's just get back to the agenda so um um we have an updated plant list and suggestions so um what was the favor of
this board to proceed again I would like this to go out to everybody I mean we didn't have the material published um I would I mean whatever you all want to do but I just would like everybody to just at least get a look at it public it next month when we get together and go over you know the final
drawings the final bids the budget where we're going to get the money can we just advertise it then and anybody who wants to come in and talk about it I mean I assume it was on the agenda for today right with the drawings no fincial schematic was those were not on the agenda wasn't part of the package I got you so can we just put it all on next month's meeting and that way anybody can come and you know who wants to I mean if somebody wants to go door too and talk to people about you know the drawings and stuff up there welcome to do it we'll be able to put this on as well can
with the minutes we can have this put on there it's just this was a rough draft for you all to review and to be able to give us some feedback we went further than just doing the plant list to try to give you an idea through a landscape plan to be able to see where things were going to be okay so is it the favor of the board then to um go ahead and and tweak it so we have the final plan for approval for next meeting or we could call a special meeting I mean it's up to
you all what you want to do if you want to move it along faster I know it's it's a lot of work if we have a special meeting so it'd be better probably to just do at a regular meeting but what is the favorite of this board I thought what we just talked about is you're going to go back tweak it with with denas right and then go out for bids and then be ready at the next meeting where we would have budget tweaking discussions and to make some
decisions of the plant that's what I thought that the next meeting we want to have the design and and the budget determined approved and so if you before then want to post this out on the website ask them for feedback I don't have any concern I know at this meeting we noticed it that there's going to be a plant list but again nothing was public for people to see and it's kind of kind of hard to just put one picture up here of one area to see what it is yeah and I think keep Lake plet beautiful is going
to need that month to get the drawings revised to get them out the bid to get the bids back to review it themselves you know get it in front of us they're going to need every bit of a month to do that so I I don't think um you know in the meanwhile we're going to put this out so that the public can see it and so that the merchants that are affected by these plants can give their opinion am I right on that okay okay I'm good but they need to give that feedback pretty fast so that he
isn't going out to bid twice yeah like how are they going to do that feedback do we want them to get with you know for send an email to a particular I think they would have to come back at the meeting yeah rather than random yes I think if you want to get feedback from business owners somebody needs to walk the street with this and go talk to each business owner and show it to them and explain it to them and stuff like that I mean that that's going to be your real effective way to get feedback you know I
just don't know if anybody I will volunteer to do that but I do need the um I need to have something to show them so I guess I could just carry this around you could show them this the quantities don't matter to them you know for the most part I mean the quantities are going to change slightly where things are missing and stuff but everything that's on there I think is accurate it's just that he's missing a few islands that he was supposed to show and he hasn't so somebody I mean I also would like to see Cruz bank they have the clock out there it
looks I don't know if that's in that paved area or not we're P we're Paving from the uh um Street to the clock oh to the clock and then we're Landscaping behind the clock I mean they just invest in that clock I just want to make sure that I can tell them you know they need to know so Mark Schneider chief of police for the record um I would not recommend deviating from the plant list that's already been agreed upon while we were out there it was very carefully selected to meet the requirements to maintain line of sight at all these
locations if we deviate from the list of plants that have already been agreed upon you don't know exactly what's going to happen unless we look at those plants specifically for use in each individual location I would strongly recommend sticking with the plan that was agreed upon during the walk through if you're going to go show this to people I think you should just show them what's coming not ask them if they wanted to change you know I mean they probably will be perfectly fine with it it's way better
than what they got now you I think they're going to be happy for anything we did as um Mr harzel said it's not been pretty um not for anybody real reason it's just anything will be an improvement I believe and I think everybody's going to be totally happy with it I really do if if you want to go door Todo with that to each of the businesses I'll help you but I don't know that that's appropriate but I would do it I don't think it's
appropriate so so just comment further on what the chief said I mean then I think another approach is oh do your tweaking and this before the during next part of next month's packet has the whole design and everything from the tweaking for people to come and comment yeah at that time time then by then and I think where it's missing today is the people we had it on
the agenda approved plant list but nobody saw it even ourselves until you know now I think the general discussion is we like what we saw Yes we have some tweaking that needs to be done so we can tweak based on that comment if you so feel it's necessary put it on next C include in the packet this is what we're going to vote on this is what we're going to discuss and we're going to vote on and then we're also going to make some and then put the budget that we approved in there the fiveyear so
it's known that we'll have some um discussion on the ability to fund the bids as they come back other words we're going to be here for months back and forth back and forth and we're going to delay it the group's done a great job the chief makes some good points that I didn't know it's already the height the everything can considered people don't know that keep going put it part of the packet people
have a chance to come at that next meeting and make those comments and I'll make a motion to that and I'll second it okay okay may I hear one last comment from the public Alex from twq no I agree with Colleen and you know what you know Snider said I mean if we go to dood door I mean I think we should publish it and let people come on the next meeting if they want to change something or say they can come up to the meeting and present it but if we go do door I just feel it's going to open a can of worms uh you know just giving the option of people to comment and and just
input on a lot of different plants and it just makes a lot of changes you know um as far as worldly I mean that the Tropa tree we have cre myrtles along the the Inner Lake so just switching that treat or Crate Myrtle is not going to affect anything um we can easy just just put a Crate Myrtle there instead of the Tropa um and like I said we should definitely post the designs online or anywhere you know where citizens can look at it and if they want to comment on it they can comment on next meeting is my suggestion because if not we're not going to get anywhere if we start
inputting it you know one by one on what people think I do think too if I if I send if we can get this scanned and send it um I can send it to Ken Anderson who has the Loosely formed Merchants Association I mean he's been really diligent he went through the whole business tax list and try to get everybody's email so I just you know you know he's done a good job of trying to contact people so that might be a ticket as well um anyway so
we have a motion and a second any other comment sorry one more I just want to make sure are we going to actually add phase two to go out to bid as a separate just to have it ready or we're not going to do that I just I want to what do you call phase two I just wanted that I I don't necessarily all four corners CU you already got one I want on the right on the North West corner Corner in front of the robin the bank mural that little island needs to be jazzed
up the opposite side yeah then the Potter House is mad because we did that side not that side yeah so but your point problematic we we we did the two points phase two you know phase two is right after this is done soon you all approve this we get going on it phase two can start by April as far as that go I didn't know exactly what phase two covered is is it just that covers whatever we want to whatever we don't cover today we'll cover in phase two you know really that that's the rest of
Inter Lake and then the intersection in Maine um I think would be phase two once we know the volume of water we have 80 gallons at the well head but we do have brakes somewhere down the line so we don't know what volume we're going to have you know so if you do 200 200 microjets at 10 microjets per Island we only got 20 Islands to irrigate we might not make it we we don't know we don't know the volume that we have but there's Irrigation in this spot already so are you saying by us putting
in the volume of I'll call it phase one plants it may even impact the other plants yes because we have that proper coverage for those some of those islands we're going to have 40 40 plants in an island so so we earlier had spoke about just that four corner adding that as a go out for bid if you want to call that phase two oh just that just that corner phase two go out for bid with with this but then
also what would it be for that corner that's what I thought Alec had talk about before we can throw numbers out there like I said $3,000 $3,000 if if we have the water we don't know if we have the water or not we we you know we don't unfortunately we don't know what we don't know um and it's going to Once those plants start going in I don't want to get further along and not have adequate water for the plants we plan on putting in now okay and so um as far as the motion
goes i' hate to put you guys on the spot could you reread the motion to us okay for next meeting for next meeting is
everybody clear on that yep everybody okay good all right so um no no no I did so I'll call for the vote please yes yes yes yes
yes yes okay so um anything else we've covered that new business there's none old business we need um project updates please Eva I'm sorry I'm looking for the Dow
Hall one I see the downtown flower pots you looking the Dow Hall I'm looking I'm going you're okay there yeah okay
oh no maybe says it's in another
oh it it may be we had pictures for Dow hall building rehab this was one of the items that was on our um fiveyear Capital Improvement plan I don't know why it's not loading for us to be able to see the pictures but we wanted to be able to show you the before and after because the work is being done down there thank you uh huge kudos to Harry
because he took this task and has run with it so the the ADA Bathroom is almost complete we anticipate that that should be done by next week he's also addressed the AC in the building because um on the smaller portion there was not an AC vent that went that into that area so that has been addressed um we he also met with the um Fire Marshall to find out what the capacity was so we have identified that it's 63 person capacity 18 on the small side with 45 on the
large side um there were some issues that we ran into with regard to the kitchen area for us to meet the fire marshal standards and the standards of the state you cannot have a um stove without a hood so that will be addressing that situation um he uh addressed the emergency exit lights the fire extinguishers and then he'll be putting the address on the building so we are moving forward with that project
we also um and I was going to ask Mr Brantley to speak a little bit to this just so that because the patio was would be the next item for the Dow Hall renovation however it cannot be covered um it would require a new roof I was going to say he he went out and looked at it with Harry as well so he could give a little bit more information on that for us so where he was showing he wanted the ports to go U when you step out of that and you bring the con up within less than one inch of the entryway you only have 7 foot to the S so and there's two valleys that come in
that way there's really no way to shed the water uh and slope it because you have you're starting at 7 foot you have a beam that supports it that's eight inches you know it's just it's just going to be too low you could do something out the front um there is a Gable out front that you could continue uh roof line out that way with uh insulated panels that's something that can be priced out but that's not in that little recess it's going to be coming straight off the front porch is the only thing when I drove back by there I kind of had that idea um that could be done
which would be nice and open um for people to sit out front thank you so we did discuss what that looks like what we could potentially do can you hear me I don't know why yeah it's on just talk closer to it get closer here um but whether we do it with a patio table with the shade over it things of that nature so we'll get some quotes to be able to bring back to the next meeting as well for this project
and I will email out the picture since it won't open so that everybody here on the council has that and then we'll also put it online so that people can see the work that's been done it looks really good it looks really nice in there it's a it's beautiful what do you think the timing for completion for public use would be that's going to depend because we need to establish fees and that's on our um that we we didn't get to have that Workshop where I was going was um since next Monday's agenda is already out
there but maybe the one after we should talk about a grand opening celebration with ribbon cutting and all that something right okay so that's for Dow Hall anybody have questions I was going to say anything from the audience you all understand what we're I don't know if you want understand what we're talking about the uh playground and Community House on Dow Hall Boulevard that we recently purchased
that's what we were discussing we're trying to make the building um usable by the public it was used for a scout Hut and different uses but being governmental building now we have to put in Ada and we have to have certain compliance to for that building so we're in the process of renovating it so um before we move on from the building can I make a comment on the building sure yeah I just say that anything we do to the building I mean the building itself is already cheap and cheesy
looking I would hope that we don't continue you know and make it look more cheap and cheesy so whatever we do as far as adding a porch you know I'd like to see it be you know a structure that's maybe not aluminum in nature um you know looks like a cport on a house you know mobile home right so um I think we need to think about what we're going to designed to go onto that building and hopefully we could do something to make the building look nicer um than it does
right I mean yes and on the list um it has for and it's already been done so Harry is working with Dennis because Dennis already has drawings very much like this to be able to allocate for where that's going to be can we see the drawings for we we can bring them yeah I'd like to see what the plans are for that building we've got that okay anything else okay we're going to move on to Downtown Flower Pots so we tried really hard to get the
really nice pots like um Ken had picked out however as twq Alex had already said that it was probably going to prove to be an issue and I think Ken even said that it would be very difficult to try to get them locally however we did get we did work with robins and they came up with this design here or this flower pot I should say not this color because the group had agreed on a lighter color so this would be the color that we have and then we have said that we
wanted to have the Lush over you know the flowers coming out and things of that nature so we do have the pots ordered we showed them that they would go on top of of this area here uh Alex from twq has already said that around the perimeter of this area we will be getting sod to put in there so it'll look nicer than what it looks like right now the cone is on there because the flower I mean it's already irrigation is there for the flower pots um they are resin based I don't know that I'm going to say this correct but poly
polyan um and he said that they're very durable they have UV inhibitors embedded to resist any sun fade so it'll help with the fading um they're also self-watering and there's a lifetime warranty when we were looking at the choices for pots it was we were trying to see what would be best that would for longevity for durability and also um we took into account some of the chief's recommendations with what we put in there so that was how we came up with this decision the other thing that I
wanted to bring up to the group is that in line with HGTV and hearing how every all the different municipalities are trying to beautify the areas when I was speaking with um Robin's Nursery they said well you actually picked out the same pot that Sebring picked out so Sebring was in the process of putting in their order as well not the same color but the same pot and for the durability the same reasons what we were looking for so I thought that was interesting and and taking into account that when people come and they hear Highlands they
don't see the boundary lines and but they will see some consistency with some of our our character and that we do have some of the same things that we like we get a discount we have our pots with sebrings pots discount yes ma'am so can I ask you the plan was we were putting three pots in groupings so we were doing the uh medium large and extra large pots are we still doing that yes okay okay so they're not as big as the pot that you showed us they're going to be you I mean I had we um diameter wise because it'll
be bigger than our our Circle you know no we so I actually came down and and we measured everything so he has the measurements okay um I we I sent him a video we did have to play with some of the sizes to make sure but there will be three options that I mean three that will go in that area fit okay how tall do you know are the tall is the tallest pot it just says on here large Rim
medium Rim small Rim okay because we you know I I gave um somebody the um dimensions and we had gone out there and we held pots up and we tried to get what we thought would be the right height in order for it not to be to look um too small in the space that it was in so I'm just hoping that we're we're actually getting to those Heights you know and Alex Alex also spoke with Robin's Nursery he went down there so we we provided them with all of the
measurements and we told we showed him the measurements and told him that had to make sure with the height requirements based off of what we had discussed so he received all that information okay and can we see the color again so um so that's the color that would they're all the same color yes they will all be the same color um when you get into pots for they consider it more commercial use there there's difference and the colors and the color scheme that you could go after we tried to look to see if we could do three different colors it would not match
wouldn't look good with some of this so we kept it uniform with all three and um Robins had a a very good comment and Alex also had said this from twq that the flowers are going to give the pop anyways with the greenery and the things that we put in there so it's going to help and that was why he chose this one as a example for us to be able to see because once you get the color out there and then remember it's sitting on top of the haage pavers which are a little bit darker so it'll help bring out that color as well yeah um a few quick
questions for Alex are those papers sealed are no so what's that could you come up to the microphone please thank you say Alex from cwq they they're not GNA they're not sealed yet but they will be okay good yeah I just want to maintain the the color in them and um when when these pots come and you go to plant them ideally I would like to get my flower guy who does flowers at the journal you know to meet with Alex and whoever and
me to talk about the flowers going in there because we like to have vines that come down the sides there's you know there's a design that we would really like to to do you know so if that's okay you know um I'd love to make sure that we're all in line with what we're planting in order to get the best look out of those things we we went ahead and told them that we wanted them to come with flowers already in them so that it gets here quicker and what we discussed was the same thing that we've discussed here that they needed to be low
maintenance we he's also is aware of some of the other plantings that were done through keep Lake pla beautiful because keep Lake pla beautiful uses them very frequently so we worked with them already on that because with time reasonings what we were saying is that we needed to get them here quickly and out and he said that he could have them soiled and with the flowers in them so they'll be set up by twq yeah I could get with Robins in that process can you get me the list of what it is so I can review that with my flower guy I
want some Vines dripping down pots I want that as well so I'll get with Robins to see exactly and if you want to get me in contact with your landscaper and then we can while they do that when they have a set date that they're going to do it we can just meet up yeah cuz we the vision you know lots of flowers in these things not just plants you know but you also want to make sure that it doesn't it doesn't take away from her or with what we're doing on the down Interlake and on the endcaps you want to make sure that that all that looks kind
of uniform so I wouldn't want the joural plaza look to come here and then we've got a different look when it comes to these so I think it it's got to melt right yeah yeah if we do at Robins it's nice because they have all the plants there so I we can play around with makes sense I get that that was a good idea yeah to have them planted okay anything else from the audience oh when when are these getting delivered he said that we could expect him within two weeks two weeks okay great another suggestion for the
crosswalk um we did plant we we set up the plants and there there was an irrigation issue on one side I got with Allan um he he took care of it very quickly um some of the plants did die I want to replace them but I wanted to suggest if I can change the plants cu the the the what we selected once they're grown and full it's going to look nice but when we planted it especially with the red mulch we kind of in um the pine bark and so when when the city or the the town um put in the red
mulch we just match the red mulch but if if if if I didn't want to just replace it with another variety without being approved by the council I just want to see if it was okay for me to switch it up with something that's going to be a little bigger uh and it's going to pop and it's going to actually be more drought tolerant uh we're thinking about match sticks per Milat um it's it's a very nice plant it really pops and I think it's going to make that the island pop a little better and no extra costs nothing's going to change I just wanted to make sure if it was okay with you
guys I think it's a good idea to replace that stuff that's there and um yeah I mean the stuff that was there was was very low and I I think um the stuff you're going to you would you're suggesting to plant would be taller once you plant it right correct because it seemed to me like some people were walking through there and those things were so low that you know it didn't create a blocking effect for them yeah they weren't getting enough water we got a CO fronts coming in right away you know right after that it just it just died and and I I've been wanting to replace it I just don't want to replace it with the same thing I kind of wanted
to bring something else I think it'll pop better uh we'll leave the silver Buttonwood which is the the silver bushes but just around it just add with a it's called match stick Brad if you guys want to Google it um I think it would really pop there if if you guys are okay with that I'll jump on that right away I'm okay with it okay um I just I just wanted to ask um I know that you're asking him to coordinate and everything with Robins however it's very important for me to
make sure that I have my staff member involved just because it is a town project and we want to ensure that we're all on the same page with what's occurring um and I say that and not to bring the negativity but just to hone in on the fact that we have to make sure that what we're doing aligns also with the county because we ran into the issue with the county ride of way where we didn't get the permit that we were told to get the permit so this helps me not I'm not trying to micromanage but I'm also the administrator responsible for making sure we handle it properly so I
want to ensure that myself or one of the staff members are involved yeah that that's fine and you know I agreed that I'd have my flower guy maintain them you know till the next budget cycle um for the town comes around you could do it yourself but um so I'd like him to know what plants are coming so that um if he has any comments on it he can tell me but um want to make sure that he has the best ability to do the best job maintaining him as possible right thank you thank you okay any other comments from the
public from the board okay let's move on to downtown irrigation I think we kind of talked on that a little bit already um with the irrigation um Harry you had already said that we talked a little bit about the irrigation concerns that we had um with the mid Florida and Walgreens where we still need to look at that and be checked we kind of dump that a little earlier so it was just to um talk about that it looks like everything on in Inner Lake is good all of the irrigation
on inner lake is good um in just the two spots in front of the cadium park place there's two small Islands there that we're not sure why there's no water um but they're it's nice and Lush so we're we're like what's what's happening there so Harry is still trying to do a little bit of an evaluation to see well why is it growing if there's no water there water so yeah it's coming up underneath and that is a major accomplishment thank you Harry for being so on task with that
it's it's a big it's a big project okay is there any comments from the no okay um anything else before the board um would you like I have a question what's the status of the banners the Banners are on hold right now because we're waiting for Central Florida Regional planning they will be handling the text Amendment ments but we have the workshop is on the 17th so the workshop on the 17th will be include
banners it that's what it's for signs Wayfair I guess I didn't think banners was in a sign but okay yes it and um on the advertisement um it has uh Central Florida Regional planning to contact Jennifer Cotto Salsbury with her email address and then it says some of the topics to be discussed are um banners way finding and signs that's February 17th February 17 I was not aware that it I was pointed out to me that's President's Day pres it is President's
Day but we're open you we are we are open what time is we're open for business what time please 5:30 to 7:30 and that's been advertised on the website it's been advertised by the police department Facebook it's been advertised on um nextd door app and then Central Florida Regional planning is also advertising it and it will be published in the newspaper in the class IFI and to the chamber the chamber is also sharing it Miss
Hayes Miss Hayes I'm good okay thank you Mr Lan Frank do you have anything to add and Miss join well thank you all for coming thank you for your participation this is how democracy works and I'm glad everybody came and had we had input thank you