to call to order the meeting of the town of Lake Placid. Um, tonight we have with us Pastor Norris of Trinity Lutheran Church who's going to lead us in the invocation. And I've asked Bashful Greg Sap, who's a Marine, to then lead us in the pledge of
allegiance. Could you all please stand? >> Please bow your heads. Proverbs 3:5 and 6 tell us, "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways, submit to him and he will make your path straight."
Oh Lord, we trust your divine wisdom. And we submit ourselves to your guidance each and every day. We pray that you would lead this town council of Lake Placid to make decisions that will lead this community in the direction of prosperity
and controlled growth during these summer months of vacations, rest, relaxation, and family gatherings. Keep all the residents of our community and surrounding areas free from all harm and
danger. walk with our first responders, our police, our sheriffs, our firefighters, our first responders, and be with all those military personnel in harm's way in the Middle East. Bless this meeting and the decisions made so
that all may leave informed and with clarity of thoughts. In your most holy name we pray. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Clerk, could you please take the role? >> Mayor Charles, >> here. Vice Mayor Royce >> here. >> Council member Hayes >> here.
>> Council member Sap >> here. >> Council member Everheart >> here. >> Thank you. Um I just want to open up with some mayor comments first. Um so I wanted to share some observations from the last month as we continue
strengthening our operations and planning for the year ahead. First, we're realigning some work across staff areas to improve efficiency and better utilize our people and equipment. Part of this effort includes identifying where workloads may be overloaded so we
can prioritize appropriately or develop alternate plans to ensure critical work gets done at Lake June Park. The old rusted signage at the boat launch has been replaced. Picnic tables were added under each of the new pavilions. and we're
gathering estimates from several companies on how best to address the potholes and uneven road surface around the boat launch area. Once we have those recommendations and costs, we'll bring them forward for consideration. You'll also notice that in this month's
town packet of materials, a new format for the financial reports. This is part of our ongoing effort to move towards clearer executive summaries rather than dense, highly technical details that can be difficult to interpret. It's work in
progress and we welcome feedback. The interactive playground behind the basketball court is now open for public use when school is not in session. I want to thank John Verde and Chief Snyder for working with me on communication and process to make that possible.
Last week, I sent a letter to FD outlining our funding challenges and formally requesting exhibit E advanced payment approval under the wastewater plant grant that many of you aware of that we had taken out the $4 million um
bridge loan. On Friday, Rachel and I met with FD and they agreed to advance funding so that the town can now pay our vendors directly without relying on bank financing. This will allow us to pay off the $4 million bridge loan and avoid
future interest cost. Based on current projections, this change is expected to save the town approximately 70,000 per acre per quarter. This is a significant improvement in how we manage cash flow and a strong example of what proactive
engagement with our partners can accomplish. I want to acknowledge the water main breaks that occurred in uh two different areas last Friday um which resulted in low to no pressure or boil water notices. We've seen an increase in
breaks over the past year and I'll be working closely with appropriate staff and the utilities commission to understand what the underlying issues are, the root causes and long-term solutions. To the residents who were affected, we apologize for the inconvenience. We
appreciate your patience and we'll continue communicating as we work through this. And then last, we have openings on the regional utility commission and the local planning agencies. Any interesting person, any interested person should submit a letter
of interest to the town clerk. So before we move into the agenda, I wanted to provide an update regarding the town administrator position. This morning, the town administrator, Charlotte Rodriguez, submitted her resignation with a stated last day of
July 10th. I have accepted her resignation and under the terms of her employment agreement, today was her final working day with the town. She will be paid through the remainder of her notice period. I want to thank her for her service and
wish her well in future endeavors. This is standard operating procedures for high level positions. As we move forward, I want to reassure council and the public that the town operations will continue without interruption. We have strong directors
and staff who keep this town running every day. With the town administrator position now vacant, we need to consider interim leadership. While any of our directors have the skills and capability to take on the
interim town administrator role, Chief of Police Mark Snyder has expressed his willingness to step up and assist the town during this transition. Chief Snder has 28 years of experience with the town, deep institutional knowledge, and
the steady leadership needed to maintain continuity. Looking ahead, the town will be facing significant financial and operational challenges. The statewide property tax referendum on the November ballot is widely expected
to pass. And if it does, it will place additional pressure on municipal budgets, staffing, and service delivery. Given the complexity of our current financial environment, including grants, capital projects, and long-term
planning, I believe the council should consider candidates who have demonstrated experience managing budgets, grants, and capital planning as we look ahead to selecting the next town administrator. If the council would like to review a
job description before that position is posted, I'm happy to prepare one for your consideration and bring it back at next uh week's town uh council meeting. And at um Chief Snider's recommendation, if the council appoints him as interim
town administrator, he's also requesting an interim chief of police to be approved to ensure continuity within the police department. I present this for council consideration this evening. >> Um
>> are are you looking for uh a motion to that effect to >> Yeah. Yes. Per our charter um council approves. Okay. So, I would be looking for a motion for an interim to appoint Chief Snder as an interim town uh administrator.
>> Okay. I will make a motion to appoint Chief Mark Schneider uh interim town administrator >> for the town of Lake Plaza >> and second. >> Any other comments from the dis
Leroy? We're echoing up here. Just uh there's like a feedback echoing >> out to the audience. Bring it back. Clerk, please take the role. >> I'm sorry. Who seconded that motion? >> I made it.
Councilwoman Hayes and Ebart. >> Council member Hayes. >> Yes. >> Council member Everheart. >> Yes. >> Council member Sap. >> Yes. Council member Roy. >> Yes.
>> Motion passes. And then I will prepare in next week's next next week's meeting. We'll have um job description that we can review and approve. >> And he will chief Chief Schneider will appoint the interim chief of police. Do we know who that is yet?
>> We don't. We're still working through that. So we can bring that back also at next week's meeting. >> But that's not that's not our purview. That's his purview. >> Right. >> Okay. Can I just interrupt for a minute and get help? My computer's not on this one. Can help, please. I don't know my
password. Sorry. >> Yes. >> It's It's got a lovely scene on there. It just doesn't have the agenda. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good. >> I think so. >> Thank you. We have a town attorney with multiple
talents. >> Yes. >> But you remembered it. >> Um and then the second um order that we need to do is uh regarding the banking signatures. Interesting to note is that the bank needs a formal in the minutes
to add our vice mayor. So, um, I would ask for a motion, >> uh, to add Ray Royce and Mark Snyder to our bank signatures and remove Charlotte Rodriguez. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any other comments here, Mr. Attorney?
>> Mayor, I recall just specifically that the name needs to be on those documents apparently from >> That's what they said. We had we had the resolution that when the town when the vice mayor is selected to approve to put the name to put that person the bank
wants the name in the minutes. So this motion will u provide that to them comments to the audience bring it back. Clerk please take the vote. >> Council member Sat >> yes. >> Council member Hayes >> yes. >> Council member Everheart >> yes.
>> Council member Royce >> yes. Motion passes. Um, moving on to the agenda, is there any um public comments on non-aggenda items? Seeing none, moving on to the consent agenda, I'll
take a motion to accept the consent agenda. I know there was some minor changes, so the motion should include those changes. >> I submitted the changes to each one of you. I make a motion to accept the consent agenda with the changes the the minor
corrections to the minutes that were provided. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any other comments from the dis audience bring it back. Clerk, please take the
vote. >> Council member Everheart, >> yes. >> Council member Hayes, >> yes. >> Council member Sap, >> yes. >> Council member Royce, >> yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Um I have a proclamation which is declaring June faith, family,
and responsible fatherhood that I'd like to read and then we'll sign it. Whereas faith is not just a cornerstone but the foundation of the town of Lake Placid community providing the moral compass of strength, hope, and guidance for many of its residents. And whereas the Christian
faith and Christian ethics play a vital role in defining and shaping the constitutional values of love, service, unity, and responsibility that contribute to the well-being of the town of Lake Placid. And whereas the month of June is also a time our nation honors
fathers through the obser observ observance of father's day acknowledging the vital role of fathers as pillars of strength wisdom leadership provision and protection within their families and communities.
And whereas the United States approaches the 250th anniversary of American independence, it is fitting to remember and celebrate the enduring foundations that help shape our republic, including faith, family, and responsible
fatherhood, which continue to cultivate the character, stability, and future strength of our communities. Now therefore, be it proclaimed by Colleen Charles as mayor of the town of Lake Placid, hereby proclaimed June 2026
as faith, family, and responsible fatherhood month in the town of Lake Placid, Florida. This proclamation calls the residents of the town of Lake Placa to unite, celebrate, and uplift the foundational pillars of faith, family,
and responsible fatherhood. By honoring these virtues, we strengthen families, honor fathers and mothers, and embrace the faith that calls us to serve one another with love and compassion. Proclaim this 8th day of
May, 2026. And I'll sign this. Uh the clerk will attest it and we'll seal that. And um this also is Father's Day, so Father's Day month, right? So it's fitting Did I say the wrong date?
Okay. So, now we'll move on to public hearings. Ordinance 2026-03 annual updates to the capital improvement schedule. U public hearing. >> Mayor, can you read the title into the record? >> Read it in.
Right at the top right there. >> Sure. >> Okay. We'll come down for a picture. I know. >> Yeah, I'm We're going to change that. I did. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Come on, guys.
>> Is it her proclamation or ours? >> I just read it. >> I know. >> Oh, I guess my question is She wants >> your chair. one step. There we go. All righty. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
Got it. Actually, my hair straight away from my horse. Okay. So, ordinance number 2026-03, an ordinance for the town of Lake Placid, Florida, modifying the 5-year
capital improvement schedule of the town of Lake Placid 2030 comprehensive plan providing for severability, providing for conflict, and providing for an effective date. Mayor, council, town clerk, for the
record, I'm presenting this tonight. Um, this is a annual requirement. >> We're having on her microphone. We're having >> Can we hear me now? >> Yeah. >> Have to real close. So, this was brought before the LPA.
This is an annual ordinance. Um, our five-year capital improvement. Next week, you'll have it for second reading and also the resolution for the 10-year. It went before the LPA. LPA made a recommendation to include um gas the gas
line. Um that has in previous years been brought forward and town council did not put it in. So, and then also the the dog park. I'm requesting that that get removed from the wording on the five-year because we're doing that with CRA. Um, other than that, I present this
to the council for first reading. And then just ahead for clarification, th this, you know, we're a few months overdue from when we would typically do this. And then after the budget is
completed in September, October, we'll be bringing this up to date. So this is now to kind of catch up from January, February. We'll submit it, but then we're going to refresh it right after the budget and
we'll bring it forward then and get back on the annual cycle that we should. So just to add to that, mayor, during the budget workshops, this will be brought forward along with the budget. The um thoughts are that we can pass our budget, our millillage, our tenure, our
five-year all together in September for October one. Basically what you said, but it'll be part of the budget process. So everybody will be able to take another look at it. >> Great. >> May I? >> Um I had some notes and questions. Do you want me to hold it for the workshop?
How? Yeah, I was going to say. So, what we need is a motion, a second, then we'll open up for discussion. That fair. >> I move to approve on first reading ordinance 26 2026-03 LP annual updates to the capital
improvement schedule public hearing removing the dog park wording and adding a natural gas line with no amount. second. >> Okay. Comments, questions from the dis. >> Okay. Um, go ahead.
>> Okay. So, um, yeah. Well, first of all, I like the way you broke down some of the items that were lumped together in prior years. Um, I'd like to add a line item if we can afford to put in the uh fence at the
cemetery, the back fence. And um, and I'm confused about um, under the police department, it's listed at 1.6 million, but actually we have 193,000 coming out of utilities and
400,000 coming out of a grant. So during the budget cycle, you guys reviewed this and at that time the police department was at 1.6. That that's what was budgeted, my understanding. And that's really all I know about
>> Yeah, this kind of tricky now because we're catching up something that should have been submitted earlier. >> So we're we're acting like if we were to submit it based on the budget that was approved. Okay. And so, >> okay, >> come September during the workshops and
then September, this will be refreshed with the approved budget numbers which will bring >> okay, >> you know, the police department, anything else to the level that it needs to be. >> So, I'm just getting ahead of myself. >> Well, it's just trying to clarify kind of >> okay, >> you know, the catchup that we need to do
to submit this. It's pretty much based on the budget that was approved. >> Okay, got it. Other comments now, did you have some questions? >> I did. Um I'm I'm adding this for like the 14th
time under utility fund for 2027 2028. It appears that the total on here is 805,000. However, if I add up brush truck, vehicles, AMI meters, and public works complex, I'd come up with
1055, not 805. So, I either I'm missing something or there's something in there that shouldn't be in there. >> We can take a look at that and change it on second reading if it's incorrect. >> Okay, that's under 2728 under utility
fund. >> Thank you. Anything else from the dice out to the public? >> Seeing none, bring it back. Clerk, take the role. >> Council member Sat, >> yes. >> Council member Eberhart, >> yes.
>> Council member Hayes, >> yes. >> Council member Royce, >> yes. >> Motion passes. Thank you. Um, moving on to the action agenda is um an update for Clear Wave Fiber. And I think
we have attorney Groves online uh that she's going to take uh lead on this item. Well, yes, but we got to get the volume in. Go ahead and we're testing it. Um,
Attorney Groves, can you speak and we'll see. Oh. It's like technology here, right? We're Cara, are you there? So, as soon as we teed this up, this is on broadband with Clearwater fiber.
>> Well, okay. We'll Okay, we're going to move on to the next item. We'll come back to that when we can get our audio um fixed. Um the next item is authorization for an RF >> now,
>> but I don't know that the sound is good. Cara, are you there? >> Yeah. >> She's muted up there. >> That is not me. I It appears that she's muted. >> I think that's
>> okay. Could be. Yeah. It looks like she's muted to the left here though. Car. There we Now we can >> Well, I can hear you, but I don't know if we have it out to the audience yet.
Go ahead and just let's see if they can I mean I've got you coming through a little pod up here. Cara, can you >> No, because you're only coming through
the computer here. >> What you doing? Okay, Carth. >> No, hang on. >> Cara, say something again. >> Can you hear me? >> Can you hear out there? It's better.
>> Better. So, we have an external speaker with a remote a wireless mic on it. So, we'll Okay, Cara, go ahead. Okay. So, good evening, council. Um, I hope everyone's well. Cara Groves here on behalf of the office of the town
attorney. Um, I wanted to just take a few minutes before the vote to frame what you're being asked to approve tonight. um what this document does and doesn't do um and why it is structured the way that it is. I know several members I think have reached out um with questions about the cabinets and the specifics of what um Clearwave is
putting into the ground. So I wanted to address all of that outright. So the um the crux of the matter here is that there is a federal legal issue before the town. It's probably not something that the council has commonly dealt with before, if at all. Tonight's vote is not
necessarily about whether ClearWave gets to build in Lake Placid. Under federal law, we're preempted. Um, we basically don't have any legal right to uh preempt Clear Wave's ability to come into Lake Placid. So, tonight's vote is about
whether the town has meaningful protections in place um while that happens or whether we essentially lose the ability to impose any conditions at all. So, a little background here. Um, before my office was brought in, our
town planner had already been contacted by Clearwave and received a permit application. And so, what happens under federal law, uh, specifically the Telecommunications Act of 1996, the moment a communications provider submits
a permit application to a municipality, a review clock starts. So, we have a defined period to act. And unfortunately, if we don't act, the um application could be deemed approved automatically, which I know is very hard to believe. Um but by operation of
federal law, it can be deemed approved without any conditions, protections, or requirements of what we'd like to have in place. So, what we had to do at the town attorney's office, we had to, you know, we had a narrow window basically to do two things at once. you know, make
sure number one, the town wasn't exposed to any sort of uh deemed approved risk and then make sure that you know when clear wave does proceed, the town has enforceable protections. And so that's what thisou is for it's, you know, think
of it as a targeted instrument designed to, you know, solve a specific legal issue. Um so in the packet you'll see what I believe are the most important provisions of theou. It's also attached. Um the town, you know, wouldn't have the right uh to otherwise enforce without
this. And thisou just for council's knowledge. This is based in off of one that ClearWave has already done in Highlands County um based off of a um agreement I think with Sunen Lakes District in Sebring. So you'll see that
there are um specific insurance requirements, a 50k bond in case they you know damage the rightway in any way that you know that's money that the town can pull from. There's full indemnification for the town if there's any issues. Um
relocation of any cabinets for road projects or trails or drainage improvements. All of that at the applicant's cost. And most importantly, which I think gets to the heart of what um some of the questions I had heard uh were raised, was no construction um
without an approved permit. And that's where some of the concerns of the council come in. I've heard, you know, questions about the size, the uh location, um what they're going to look like in, you know, in front of different areas, um and whether they're going to block future uses. And so these are
absolutely all of the right questions. Um they're not going to be answered tonight, and this is part of the reason why. So theou is um a temporary document. It's designed to allow the permitting process to move forward. Um so the cabinet questions like sizes,
locations, ADA clearance, um site distance requirements, all of that um that is the work of the permit process and the ordinance we are eventually going to bring back to the council at a later date to approve. So thisou is specifically designed to buy us time to
develop that ordinance and the permit process that we're going to go through with clearwave after this is approved. That's where we're going to address location sizing um and all that's going to be ultimately put into an ordinance. So certainly welcome any feedback um
tonight on you know your concerns related to the placement of the cabinets, the size, all of that and we will incorporate them into the permit process. Um but the issue that I was concerned about getting into that tonight is that um it can create a
subjectivity problem. So you know we are really limited by federal law here that placement and size standards they must be objective written and applied non-discriminatorily. And so we have to make sure that every suggestion by council, you know, not
just reasonable, but doesn't make deployment um impossible for financial or other reasons. So we can certainly limit ROWS if there's legitimate public safety, public access concerns. Absolutely. Like if we can't get a fire
truck to turn in an alleyway anymore, can't have a a cabinet there. Um but we we're not going to get to that tonight. um that's the job of planning, fire department, utilities um to craft that permitting process and then ultimately bring that back to a complete or
ordinance. So um for now it's basically a time constraint issue. Um we need to you know certain legal protections in place. Um so with that we do have a representative from clear wave here I believe um somewhere in the audience to answer questions. Um, but I do just want
to be clear that I don't think that the Clearway representative is prepared to ask, you know, answer technical questions about their cabinets. We do have a site plan, but it's still in the middle of the permitting process. So, we're happy to take any concerns raised by council um into consideration on that
issue. But outside of that, you know, I ask that just to please limit it um to edits or modifications to theou or the motion um to the legal address issues addressed therein. Um, and that's that's it. >> So,
we're looking for a motion to accept theou. >> Yes. And I'm looking for that motion and then go out to the audience then back and certainly you have a representative here that can Okay. >> articulate. I move to approve the memorandum of understanding between the town of Lake Placid and Harra of Florida
LLC doing business as clear fiber for installation of fiber optic network within the town of rights town rights away and to authorize the mayor to execute theou on behalf of the town. >> Second.
>> Any comments from the dis out to the audience? Bring it back. Clerk, please take the vote. >> Council member Sap, >> yes. >> Council member Hayes, >> yes.
>> Council member Everheart, >> yes. >> Council member Roy, >> yes. >> Motion passes. So, thank you for coming and uh Cara, thanks for the very detailed uh description.
>> May I please >> took the time to come? Maybe you could um educate the uh audience what this is all about. Is this u for home can home use? Is it a bulk system? Just educate
us. >> I'll I'll give it a shot. Um good evening council residents. Um so my name is Bob Nicholson. I'm the senior director of construction for Clearway Fiber. Um we're a private equity company. um we come into these
communities that are underserved uh with fiber. Uh we don't we don't come in and compete against other fiber builders. So, this is a a good market for us. Um it's 100% fiber to the home. Uh we start off building residential. Um and then
we'll go into HOAs once we get right of entry agreements, MDUs, multiple dwelling properties, apartments. Um, and we'll pick up businesses along the way. Um, but our primary starting point is residential and I believe there's a little over 400 homes that we're
planning to build to and it's 100% underground construction. So, we're not hanging on the utility polls. Um, the only thing that you will see is that cabinet that keeps getting discussed. It's an FDH cabinet. Stands for fiber
distribution hub. Um, it's roughly three foot long. two foot deep and it's it stands maybe four foot tall and we will work with the the city in putting it in a discrete location that it's not not going to be
an isore for anybody and it won't impact traffic. Um typically it's in the rightway and that's our serviceability point to access the fiber. >> So would there be one for the whole town, one every so many miles, one for every block? What would
>> I I believe one cabinet will service the entire city limits. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Just don't break our water lines, please. >> That's that's always a big question. We operate under the the 811 laws. Uh we'll
notify everybody. We'll work with the public works department on on capacity, so we're not putting too much strain. uh we're not like the AT&Ts or the large providers that come in and say this is what we're doing fall in line. We will
work hand inand with with the uh community and public works to make sure that this uh this project goes well and this is a small project for us. We'll be we'll be in and out before you know it. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome.
>> Um moving on to next item 7B. uh authorization for an RFI, a request for interest for the Dale Hall property. Uh just a little background of this, in February, uh the Boys and Girls Club um gave a discussion at the town council
meeting regarding future use of the Dale Hall building um for the Boys and Girls Club. And since that time there was discussion is town council made a decision to purchase this building and we should go back and see what was the whole reason that we wanted to purchase
it so that if we need to um to to modify that and that we re really should go out publicly with a um an RFI to see if there's other organizations or interests that would want to use that building. So
in the packet is um and you know a a lot were here during the October discussion of buying that building because at that time it was the um we had a hundred-year lease on Bsentennial Park and the building changed hands and there was a
um a a uh letter that came to the town to say that do we want to buy it? If not they're basically um terminating the lease of the park. So, we did buy it and uh we've done some repairs on it and the building sits there. So, um I think the
town attorney you've drafted up and the RFI um you you approve. You're you're good with that. So, >> correct, Mayor. >> What's that? >> Correct. >> Right. So, uh the RFI um has been reviewed through legal. Um, and so just
wanted to open up for discussion to if uh council wants to move to put a formal RFI out there, which would be for 30 days and then we'd come back and have a discussion of the interest and make a decision what's the the um ongoing use
of that building. >> I if I may, I think that the initial intent was to secure the playground. The building was incidental. Yes. >> And I don't think that the towns be in the business of supplying properties to charities.
I would like to see us list that property for sale and use that money to go towards playground equipment or help the other half of the park. We already have a building to use for meetings here. If someone needs to use a building, I don't know that we need
another one. Just my opinion on the matter. the playground needs to be saved, but the building does not. So, >> we um we have a a dilemma with the kids. They used to go to the public library
after school and now that's not available to them anymore. So, it's the the little ones that are hanging around town. Um that's why we thought maybe this would be a good use of the boys partnering with the Boys and Girls Club.
I think the kids hanging around town are not the kids that would be hanging out in the library. >> Pardon? >> I think the kids hanging around town would not be the ones that are hanging out in the library. >> Actually, actually, there were quite a few that were at the library waiting for their parent their older siblings to pick them up.
>> And it's a very small building to uh do much more with than have just a few people in there. I I don't know if they have to do anything right now. I don't mind putting out an RFI, but I would like to see us list that
property. Particularly with the uh potential reduction in revenue in the future coming up, I think we need to kind of hold tight on our resources for a while, not give anything away. >> Why were the kids not able to use the
library? um this uh I guess the the the thought the pre the younger kids would go to the library. They had activities for the kids um and I think reading for the kids
and then it was determined that the library would not provide that babysitting service. And so it was told to me that the the kids are running rampant. Not rampant, they're just wandering around the park, wandering
around town without any direction. And just about that time, um the Boys and Girls Club came forward and they were willing to uh put together a program, a structure program using the Doll Hall building.
So, um >> I I think it's I think it's interesting that to to go out for um requests for interest to see um what people might want us to do with that property because I mean it belongs to the town. I think
we should hear from town's people to see what they think we should do with it. >> I will say I generally agree with Councilman Sap's perspective. not at all opposed to the RFI and I would encourage if there are organizations,
excuse me, that would like to propose, you know, a intermediate or longer term lease where there was a revenue stream that was coming in to support the maintenance and the function of the building, then I'd be a lot more
interested in maintaining ownership if there was a revenue stream from an organization versus us bearing 95 or 100% of the maintenance and operating cost of the building. I think right now for utilities we're
just over 300 a month electric, sewer, water. So I I mean to your point there are costs that we're incurring as it's sitting empty, >> right? And so as it under goes more use then the O andM and repair costs will I
mean undoubtedly go up some. So that's so I would encourage any I would encourage if there's any organizations that are proposing using it that they not perceive that it's a free building to ask to use that they put together a a
plan that compensates the town in some manner for the use of that property. >> I would agree with that. Is there a motion? >> I'll make a motion that we authorize staff to release a request for interest
to the Dell Hall property. >> Second. >> We have a motion. We have a second. Any other comments from the dis? >> Yes, ma'am. And I'm assuming when that when that information comes back, depending on the responses we get, then we might then want to consider
Councilman Sap's idea if we don't get any, you know, interesting things correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And there were a lot of blank spaces in the materials that we received with reference to the dates and the timelines, of course, but I would like
to keep reasonable but yet short timelines so we don't sit on this forever. >> Okay. I know at first it was 45 days and I said we need to do less and I think I suggested 30 so we can work with what the a reasonable time for people to put together a proposal
>> uh would be >> true I mean I imagine this could be issued tomorrow >> and you have 14 days Q&A period 30 days overall so by mid July we should have at least the responses and my idea would be
to bring all of those responses back in full so council can consider that. We wouldn't want to set up any type of ad hoc sunshine committee or otherwise. Those would just come back for council to review. >> Yes. Yes. I think that's a good idea. >> Right. I mean and and and keep in mind
right after the new police department's going to be completed and they'll move in. Then we're going to have the North Oak Avenue building to make a decision and what to do. >> Yeah. So, >> I would say we don't have to get in a hurry to do this. Two months should be
plenty, even three months, as long as we have a plan for it to do something. We don't need to get in a rush to make a decision on this. I just want everyone to know kind of what I'm thinking about it and where we're going with this. So, if we miss the opportunity to put somebody in there who can do good for the town, I don't want to get in a hurry
and miss that. So, I would say let's add a little more time to it than 30 days or 45 days. Just in fairness, >> I I would agree with that except that I think people like Boys and Girls Club may be wanting to have something in place before school starts. So, you
know, that that would put us into the middle of August is when school starts. And and um it's my understanding too that the uh Boys and Girls Club have a grant in the wings and it's time sensitive.
So if we go out tomorrow, June 9th, um I guess I was trying to think if we could time it to have everything back and prepared for the second meeting in July. might be tight, you know, but for certain we could shoot for that first meeting in August. So, we can probably
put together the response knowing that 30 days we're not going to make a meeting for a decision. So, we can look at giving a little more time with the with the target of the first meeting in August that we would be able to bring a summary of everything
>> that work. And if I may, it was drafted to be inclusive to just get an interest to see if there's enough folks interested. We may narrow the scope if there's enough interest and the council may want to take a little bit more time to develop a better plan and to help that
organization out. It was just to get an interest to see and that way you can make a go don't go decision on what you need to do with this property because there is an interest of some sorts and there is a cost. >> Okay. Okay. So any other comments from
the dis? >> So what you're saying then is um let's get the we sorry let's get everything in the the request for interest into us by the second
meeting in July which is July 20th and then we would evaluate that and come back and discuss it on the first meeting of August. >> Right? We'd summarize it. We'd have staff summarize it. talk. We would talk about it at the July 20th meeting. Is that what you're saying?
>> No. No. I don't think we'll have the results back by them that we would be able. Is it July 20th the meeting or is that's a workshop? >> July 20th is the second meeting in July. >> Okay. >> 13th is the first 20th is the second.
>> Okay. Is that what you were saying, Mr. N? >> My thoughts are to see what the interest is and at least have something back before council. So, for example, if you have one individual entity that's just showed an interest in it, council may say, "Well, let's go out a little bit
longer." Um, council may say, "Let's accept this one and work with this entity." But at that point in time, I would hope that we report back to council at least where this is rather than it's on a to-do list and it never gets done.
So, I'm thinking that we would actually have those requests for interest in front of us to discuss on July 20th. >> If if they're in and can be packaged up, I think we could probably do that. >> We can work towards that. Okay. >> We should be if we go out with a month.
>> Yeah, that's >> be back, you know, July 9th gives us 10 days to put it together. be able to work >> and council can revoke this, pull this, change this, modify. This is nothing binding um on council at this point.
You're just basically asking for interest and seeing what we can do for the community. >> Any other comments from the dis out to the um audience? Yes, ma'am. If you could state your name
and address for the record, please. Good evening, council. I'm Janice Rear, executive director of the Boys and Girls Club of Highlands County. It's nice to be back and and I'm very happy to be able to speak with you once again about a proposal to bring Boys and Girls Club
of Highlands County to the youth of Lake Placid. In February, the council agreed that this would be a good direction to go. We were tasked for the town manager and I to come up with an agreement. At
that point in time, a lot of things have happened in the last four months. Of course, we've had a new attorney. Welcome, sir. Um, and of course, uh, council elections. Congratulations, Mayor Charles. Welcome, Mr. Sap, Mr. Royce. Glad to see you up there. And in
this period of time, it's been a serious delay in being able to move forward to bring a program for the children of Lake Placid. In February, it was brought to my attention that the programs conducted in the library were being cancelled. At
that time, a simple drive around the park showed children frequenting around it with basically no place to go. The Boys and Girls Club is an answer to children not having a place to go after school. We are the positive place. We do
host great futures that are available to children. And because Highlands County's club is one of the affiliates with the nationally ranked Boys and Girls Clubs of America, we have professionally vetted programs and structure that we're able to bring to Lake Placid. It's high
time that Lake Placid join our clubs in Avon Park and Sebring to have a structured, reliable, safe place for kids to be after school. Lake Placid needs, we welcome Lake Placid to join the club, so to speak. Our program is
has always been looking for a very safe place, a home in Lake Placid, and the property at 151 Dow Hall Boulevard suits it very well. We ask about how many can fit in. Well, our fire marshall has agreed that the building can accommodate
up to 65 people. That's a very reasonable starting number to have a clubhouse begin. So, we have plenty of room. The adjacent park is a perfect place for the children to be able to enjoy the afterchool
fitness program. One of the three focuses that we rotate every single day, academics, life skills, and fitness. To have access to the playground makes it a really ideal property and location.
I've already presented a draft lease agreement to the I guess now previous town manager that's been was submitted several months ago for evaluation and review. I'm assuming attorney that you may have a copy of it. If not, I'm more
than happy to provide it. It was my effort to to keep the ball rolling and to make sure that with time being of the essence with children needing a place to go and the boys and girls club ready to be able to put this in place >> I'm hoping that we can >> time
>> with respect to the oh sorry sir uh with the the the new process that is in place and I certainly welcome the opportunity to present our intent to move into the building. The lease agreement covers many different things. Thank you, but I
think that the value is >> the three minutes are up. >> Thank you. And yes, please you, you know, uh, respond to the RFI. Thank you, >> ma'am. State your name and address for the record, please.
>> Margaret, dear 1504 French Street, um, respectfully, I just want to make sure that you all understand that they have not stopped programs at the library in the town of Lake Placid. It's just that children under 12 are unable to be there unsupervised
in the afternoons or during their programs. Not that they have stopped them at all. So, I just wanted to make that clear. Thank you. >> Thank you for that. >> Stand correcting. >> Anyone else bring it back? Clerk, please take the
role. >> Council member Roy. >> Yes. >> Council member Everheart. Yes. >> Council member Hayes. >> Yes. >> Council member Sap. >> Yes.
>> Motion passes. Thank you. Uh moving on to item C um in HVAC repairs or HVAC replacement uh for government center. And I think as
you'll notice the AC is out um in this building. And so there are two AC units that are out in this building right now. Um we had about 17,000 I think in the budget. Rachel, is that correct?
um for m um AC repairs and with these two units out uh staff has called around to four different AC companies and I think Chief Snder is going to summarize I've asked him on this one to summarize
where we're at and because we're calling which it is an emergency it's been pretty hot in different parts of the building and that uh we don't need to go out for a formal bid but we have contacted uh four different air conditioning companies to uh get quotes
on getting the two units replaced in this building. Chief Snider, >> thank you. Um right now we have four bids that have come back. First will be Absolutely Cool Air. That'll be 53,600
for both units to be replaced. Bent air conditioning would be 52,150,000 or $150 to replace both units. Miller's uh would be 69,574 to replace both units in A1 Air and
Okachchobee is $49,696. While A1 Air does come in at the um lowest with the 5% overage for local business, Ben Air Conditioning would be the one that comes in lowest by $153. So chief, you have a recommendation um
for the council of which >> the recommendation would be Ben air conditioning based on the uh lowest bid with the local 5% on would be Ben air conditioning. They also give two years labor where the others give one-year
labor for the warranty. So the bid from Miller was 34,000. That was for one unit and not two. That number has to be doubled. >> Yeah. >> Yes. It's it's for one unit is $34,000. The actual total for both units would be
$69,574. >> And which which one are you referencing, Chief? >> The Miller's Air is the one Mr. Sap was was asking about. Yeah, I I see the miller. Are you saying >> the B air conditioning? It came in late. It may not have been with the printed
material. >> Oh, I don't have that. >> That came in after um the town packet was uh published and and Eva sent out a supplement email when that bid came in. >> Okay. I don't I don't have that one. Okay.
>> It's uh it's on your I'll find it. bottom. It's the fourth one down. The last one. I completely misunderstood the Miller one. I thought the Miller one mentioned
units two and three combined for 34,000. So, I thought it was a pretty big difference in numbers. >> No, that the 34787 was for a single unit. And Ben is 52,150 >> for two. Yes, sir. >> For both of them. Yes.
>> For both units. >> Um >> it was like Miller was 8,000 a unit. >> Yeah. >> Higher. >> I move to approve. >> I'm sorry, Chief. Um what's the situation with A1 Air again?
>> A1 Air is out of Okchobee. It's not a local company. And theirs would be uh $49,696 for it. We afford 5% over for our local business which would raise Ben up and it
would make them 153 cheaper with that 5%. >> Because they're getting local preference because of local charter. >> Yes. Thank you. >> I'm sorry, Mr. >> I move to approve and go with the uh Ben
bid for $52,150. >> I second. Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Any other comments from the dis out to the audience? >> Bring it back. Clerk, please take the role. >> Council member Sap, >> yes.
>> Council member Hayes, >> yes. >> Council member Eberhart, >> yes. >> Council member Roy, >> yes. >> Motion passes. And uh Mr. Durham, do we need to have a formal motion on
using this as an emergency and not going out to bid? >> The agenda item covers that and I think the motion would be inherent, but you could basically enact it under article four of your ordinances, your emergency purchasing requirements. >> That would be inherent with the documents submitted in the agenda.
>> And then also inherent with that, of course, is the budget amendment because we've only budgeted 17,000. So this is where we start getting into those repairs that are needed that we didn't anticipate but we just have to do.
Okay. Good. Okay. Thank you. >> So this authorizes the budget amendment without without uh further discussion on that. >> I would suggest we put those numbers on there and I believe the motion is blank
to leave those numbers on on there if we could do that math. Okay. I mean, I'm I'm good with it. I just want to make sure we Yes, we we're doing it correctly. Okay. >> The actual number that we would need a
budget amendment for would be $25,150. That's based on the 27,000 that is currently budgeted. >> 25,000 and some change. >> Yeah. 25,150. >> Okay. Thank you.
So, on that note, Allan's going to come up and ask for another budget amendment on another necessary thing. Uh, but remember Alan's budget amendment is for our sanitation. So, um, so Alan Kefir,
you're going to take us through um action item number D, a budget amendment for sanitation. >> Uh, good evening. I'm seeking a budget amendment for the sanitation department. uh repair and maintenance account. Uh vehicle number two, which is a 2018
MAC, had a has had transmission issues in the past and uh even as I believe 2024 we had it inspected. It checked out okay at that time, but it's continued to have issues since then. Um, we recently
had it taken to the shop and they recommended a complete replacement because there's been pressure issues uh within I believe circuit gear r certain gear ratios and then the C4 I guess that stands for clutch 4 is out.
Um, I was told that uh we would get a $5,643 core charge uh for giving them the old one. And I just wanted to uh let you know also uh we
took to auction uh garbage truck number 20 and the former claw truck uh brush truck number 15 earlier this year. We received $3,000 for the old garbage truck and 10,000 for the bucket truck.
Uh, so that might help offset it by say 13,000 for the sale of those trucks, 5,000 core charge. That kind of brings the total down a bit to about 16,000. I'm not seeking 16,000. That's what's kind of offsets it a little bit, but
this would come out of the sanitation fund. And I just wanted to make sure the full amount was there. Uh, just in case I misunderstood about the core charge and it might have been built in. >> Right. And this truck's out of commission right now, right? >> This truck is out of commission. It leaves us with two. Yeah.
>> If one of those goes out, we'll be in a tight spot for commercial. >> Um the current vehicles that are being used right now are a 2021 only 5 years old. It's in great shape, but there's a the 2014
is already 12 years old. The average lifespan of these garbage trucks is 10 to 15 years. So, uh, we're kind of kind of nearing the end of life for the one that's keeping us afloat right now. >> Thank you.
>> I apologize, Alan, for ignorance. Can you explain the core charge? >> It's basically when we give them the old transmission, they will take it to a facility and rebuild it and send it sell it as a rebuilt to someone else. It's
basically the same thing as exchanging a battery. If you return a battery, a car battery, uh you'll get a certain amount back for bringing in the old one. So is I'm sorry. So if they we're build for the core charge, but if they fix it,
then we get that back. I'm sorry, I'm not following the math. I apologize. >> Yeah, I believe that's just how it works. they bill you the full amount in the event that you ask for the old one back for whatever reason. So, they want to ensure that we're giving it back to them or
>> Yeah. The only reason they wouldn't guarantee a core is if the bell housing's cracked or something's wrong that they can't reuse the the outside parts of it. They rebuild the whole inside and then resell it as a new used part. >> So, they resell to somebody else. >> Somebody else. Yes. We're receiving we
get a credit >> if they can use it. Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. So, it seems excessive by probably five to eight or $10,000. That's a lot, but it sounds like we need the truck. We don't need to be running
all over the place chasing down better numbers. It's there. It's ready to go. I uh move that we go ahead and get this done. Uh what's the exact dollar figure if we need to put that on there? Well, if I might, I mean, I guess my question is
it's with the core charge, it's 366. Yeah. >> So, you pay the core charge whether or not it's going to be >> reused or not. >> It's unusual. Usually, they take the core immediately, but because it's a special part on the truck. Charlie would probably know better if he Yeah. would
know better. But, um, they they core starters, alternators, other things that they know, you can see quickly and see if it can be reused. And they they'll give you a core right away. on a transmission or a bigger part, they'll need to take it apart and assess it and make sure that it can actually be reused. So, you'll we'll pay it and they'll I'm sure give a credit back
later and it should be in good shape because uh they said there's nothing externally wrong with it looking at it. So, I I we'll have to budget the whole part and then get the whole 34,000 and then we'll get a portion of that back when the core is approved or unapproved.
Okay. So, let me find here. Whatever the dollar figure is. >> Yeah. I moved on. >> Yeah. To approve the $34,727 to have this done with Next TRAN. >> Um I'm sorry, but the number I was
looking at was $36,601, which is the on page 93. >> Oh, you were maybe looking at the air conditioner. >> Sorry, that it was also in the shop for several other things. uh those not being >> that that was the yeah the
>> the overall estimate uh included the I believe headlight repairs >> uh >> okay >> Tina can you scroll to the >> coolant level sensor air systems slow to build air that >> so the additional couple grand is money we've already obligated ourselves to
>> correct yes >> okay thank you I'm sorry I just wonder >> yeah just for the transmission it was 3472777 less the core if they accept it So we we should know that I would think it few weeks of them taking it. >> Yeah. >> So is there a second to the motion?
>> Second. Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Any other comments, questions from the dis out to the audience? Seeing none, bring it back to clerk, please take the vote.
>> Council member Sap. Yes. >> Council member Everheart. >> Yes. >> Council member Hayes. >> Yes. >> Council member Roy. >> Yes. >> Motion passes. Thank you. Uh moving on to 7E.
Is uh the Lake June Park pickleball courts project. Um authorization for Kimley Horn bid support um services. Last month uh council approved to go out to bid so that we could get some real numbers. um on how much the uh pickle ball
project at Lake June Park would be and um at that time Charlotte uh talked to Kimley Horn to get a price from them. Um staff felt and I don't disagree that we're we don't have the qualifications
inhouse to prepare very technical uh bid documents. Uh we don't have an engineer. That's top story for another day and topic for another day. But so we we don't really have the in-house skills to go write up bid documents to go out and Charlotte worked with Kimley Horn.
Kimley Horn gave a proposal that it would be $6,000 uh for them to prepare the bid documents and then subsequently we found out that the transportation study that was done earlier that has been charged at the
pickle ball project of $8,000. there needs to be some additional study that needs to be done and that's going to be 4500. So, um, and then I I talked to staff and, um, there, of course, with Charlotte, um, tendering her resignation
and then Eva need to step away and I said, "Okay, you guys have been buried in this for many years to the point that at one point, if you could see, Eva has a binder that's like 8 in thick of, you know, emails and bids and documents and
things that we weren't able to do a piggyback agreement." But I said, "Where do you feel the budget is right now?" you know, do you feel that we're going to come in at 700,000? That's what we have budgeted. They do not. They feel with a high confidence level it is going
to be much higher than that to the tune of central contractors had estimated and again this is based on 2022 costs right when this thing originally uh went out for ARPAC and then Ferdap lighting for the eight courts was going
to be 96,000. Now we have information and still it's not firm because they haven't seen the design. It's over 200,000. So right there we know that the lighting is going to come in a lot higher. And so I wasn't able or willing to make a decision to
spend another 6,000 if we already know with high confidence level the answer is going to come back over budget. So that's why this item is on the agenda for council is to authorize $6,000 for
Kimley Horn to prepare the bid documents that then would go out and that we would then get back to see definitively where we are in the budget. So I'll open it up for discussion for motion. I make a motion that we abandon
the project for the reasons I gave last time. the financial reasons um purely financial non-emotional um and added to that last time I mentioned well first of all I mentioned that um
we knew it was going to be 100,000 over now it's going to be more than that we need to keep all the reserves we have especially now that we know that the November referendum was going to hit us we're going to lose revenue from prop
I'm 100% well 90% certain we're going to lose revenue uh with property taxes. Um we need to keep all of our reserves and it's not fair to uh ask somebody to bid on a project when we don't have the
money to do it. Um we just now we had to spend money for air conditioning and it's my understanding there are what six more five more in this building air conditioning units of the same age. They could probably die any day. Also, we just don't have the money to spend it
right now on a pickle ball court. That's a want and not a need. >> Madame Mayor, um >> I guess my concern is >> we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'd like if if it dies for lack of a
second, I'd like to continue to Why couldn't part of the what's kind of muddied the water here was perhaps the way it was laid out and there was going to be multiple parties working on it. Why wouldn't we, especially since the town
has already invested 70 or $80,000 of hard money plus staff time, plus legal time, why wouldn't we ask Mr. Durham or staff to put together a bid package to the best of their ability,
require that a general a general contracting firm respond to it so that it was all under the opaces of one general contractor and then we have very little additional cost until we get a bid back and and and
to your point or to councilwoman Eberhart's point if it comes back hundred or a couple hundred grand higher than we originally projected, then that's the time to move on and abandon it. But until we get that bid from a general contractor,
I just think it's hard to say, well, we know it's going to be over budget. I think I think we need to just clean it up. We ought to put it out there and see if a general contractor couldn't do it, they would then manage the job. I'm not really of a frame of mind to give Kimley Horn another six or seven grand to
manage stuff. I mean, I think we just move forward. Obviously, there's no reason in my mind to spend any money on a traffic study until we make a determination that there's a likelihood that the project could go forward. So, that would be my suggestion.
>> So, who would you have prepared the bid package? >> I would if if Mr. Durham I mean I know obviously the meter runs with Mr. Durham as well, but if Mr. Durham said yes, we can from all of the work that's been done in the 8 inch thick binder if he
can put together enough of a bid package to send it out in for a request for proposal and require that the project be bid by what I'm going to call a general contractor. One, you know, we contract with one entity that we move forward in
that regard. Simple answer, yes. And based upon what Kimley Horn proposed, u we would probably work with the the planner to some degree and some of their technical staff. And I'm
being advised that it can come in for much less than that to at least give council the idea of where this bid would be. I think a lot of the concern u that I hear and I think council sees is that you know current staff is is
very stretched and limited and when we talk about a project manager the septic um plant there were at least there really wasn't a project manager because three or four people cycled through that and Bert Harris did a very good job of managing what he could and probably
stepping out of his role as legal adviser to keep that rolling. Um right now we have Brandon who is overseeing the septic um plant in council a couple months back said that's top priority getting hookups
getting that plant operational keeping it moving. Um Rachel Osborne closing out the grant collecting all those monies. So we start tasking people with this and in fact I talked to Roger with Penoni and he said Mike when we bid to do the
engineering the town agreed to have an engineer to do a lot of the field work and the inspections and that never came to be. So Penoni's been very gracious. I think we have a lot of volunteers a lot of people. Yes, we'll do it. We'll do it. But I do believe if we can get something out on the street, get a bid,
basically the specs that are here, the 8 inch binder, um I'm I'm talking to staff and probably in a couple weeks have something, get it out and and see what we have. And it needs to be a general contractor that can build this as is from soup to nut. So you're not tapping
on staff to be responsible and you're peacemealing this and who's responsible and pulling them off pulling them off because it is a lot of loss opportunity cost. That's just being an honest assessment, but we're willing to do it and see if we can get something done for council um
much less than that and come back if that's council's direction tonight. >> I I would be supportive of of all of those thoughts. Um, I can continue to have a large, if you will, burr under my saddle with the
traffic study, which wasn't even told that we had to do in the beginning. And now we did. And now apparently we didn't do it completely or correctly. And now we're going to have to incur another
$4,500 at the direction of the planner because we didn't do it right. the first time, which wasn't even told that we had to do it in the first time anyway. So, um, but I would like to go ahead as
Councilman Royce said with let's get a bid. I would also like to see do I don't do pickle ball, but do we have to do eight courts? Can we do four? I mean, I I don't know, Charlie. But I think we
owe it to our constituents to have something. We are we are focusing focusing focusing on the children. I love that. That's fine. I'm all good about focusing for the children. But we sat through a number of Central Florida
regional planning meetings that told us that our demographics is 65% senior and seniors play pickle ball. And I think we cannot go forward and ignore 65% of the demographics in our county in our town. I just don't think that's right. So I
would agree with Councilman Bryce to go ahead and let's get a bid. >> So if you want to make a motion. >> So So let me just for order here. We we had a motion. We don't have a second. So that motion dies. Yes. >> And we can open it up for additional
motion. >> Yes. to do it right. Madame Mayor, I'll make a motion that we instruct staff and le including legal to prepare the necessary bid documents to go out to
seek an RFP for a general contractor to do a bid for the pickle ball project at Lake June Park. >> And I will second that. >> Okay, we have a motion. We have a second. Any more comments from the DAS?
>> Yes, I'm getting closer to Joyy's position on this, more so now than I was 30 days ago even. But we have too much in this and I think that's a good proposal, Ray. I think we need to follow through with this. It's been, I think, poorly managed over the last couple of years for a bunch of different reasons
and we don't really know what we're looking at. So, it's a good plan. So, I think it's time. Yeah. >> Okay. Any other out to the audience? Um, sir, if you could please state your name and your address for the record.
>> Jack Comley, 607 Sunset Point Drive, Lake Placid, Florida. I had a about seven questions here. Some of them have already been answered. But uh my main questions are uh
is this work going to be able to be done in the time limit that the grants the grants are only good for so long. I think it's next summer or something like that. And you know we're getting we're delaying and we're delaying and we're delaying. We want to make sure that they they can be it can be done in in the
time limit that are imposed upon us. And uh the other thing is that has anybody thought about the security that's required for these uh courts? I've talked to a couple other uh
agent areas that have pickle ball courts and they've had to add uh locks to the to the fences to to get into the courts and at least one of them had to add security cameras because they found that
the kids were rollerblading and skateboarding on the courts and that does a lot of damage to the very nice finish on the courts. Okay. And and and then the other thing would be that uh I I agree with the idea
that that was mentioned by a couple of you of possibly since it appears that the courts are going to cost more than what was originally thought. You know what about if we have when we put out our our bid for the proposal for the
eight courts, how about if we have an a an alternate bid for six courts or four courts? That way we don't have to worry about coming back with eight courts and it's it's way out of line. We can't afford that. We would already have the price for six courts or
four quarts which would mean that we're not, you know, going out for bids for and taking another month or while not to to to get the price that uh maybe we can afford. Thank you.
>> I I just want to make a comment. And I think the challenge of going out and I'll leave that to the attorney, but 2 4 6 8 10 12 is because we've got designs plans that Kim Leo Horn has already done and it would be that would
be what they would be bidding on. So, you know, and and I think that but the comment on when the grant is due is an important one that we want to make sure that April April for the FR for the FURDAP grant it has to be completed and done. But we'll we'll check into that.
We don't need to do that now. But Mr. Durham, that's an important point that as we send those documents out, it has to be completed by a certain date. So that needs to be in there also. >> Exactly. And I think any bidder needs to be well aware of that and build that in
their timeline because um a big issue is if not um what is what is the damage? So we're going to have to really make sure they're aware of that and it's a tight timeline. >> Yeah, it's a it's a reimburseable grant. So >> Okay. Thank you. >> There's there's also the question that
if we reduce the number of courts, are we in violation of the terms of the grants? >> Oh, that is true for the first >> that that's the other that's that's the other one question that I did have. I I understand we got a uh an approval from
uh our PAC for the all the changes that we have made or work that's been deleted. But I don't think we've gotten one from Ferdap yet, have we? Well, Ferdap, we're still continuing with exactly how we submitted eight cords with lighting. So, there's no reason to
get any approval from Ferdap because we're not changing from the grant submission. >> So, what you submitted to Ferdap didn't include the >> did not include the paving. The paving was added on for the ARPAC. >> Okay. >> Thank you, >> ma'am.
Please state your name and address for the record. Margaret Deer, 1504 French Street. I absolutely love this approach. It's smart. It's not good money going after bad. Let's hope that we can finally get the dag on things built or
not. Everybody say, "Okay, here we are. If this doesn't fit, let's figure out a way to build pickle ball courts. I believe that the town has committed that to citizens and it needs to happen somewhere. The only thing I take exception to, Miss Hayes, as much as I love you, there is plenty of blame to go
around from this project from start to finish. And last time I checked, we hadn't spent $800,000 on the kids just yet. Thank you. Good evening, Marlene Berger. I have some u papers here that I want to give
to members of the dis. Do you want me to do that or do you want to take them? >> Okay. >> Like I said, the attorney multitasks here and the responsibilities. >> He's a multitasker sign. >> The multitasker >> baiff as well.
>> The baiff. >> Marlene Berger, 760 Sunset Point Drive. With regard to the proposed pickle ball courts at Lake June Park, my concerns are not about pickle ball versus non-pickle ball. They are about choosing the right facility in the right location
at the right time while responsibly using limited public revenues resources. The question before council is not whether pickle ball is a valued recreational activity. It clearly is. The question is whether town plat
whe whether lake june park is the best location when we consider the needs of all residents and visitors who use the park. Two years ago, 501 citizens signed a petition opposing pickleball courts in this particular park. And citizens in
more than 500 homes in the town opposed the proposal. This is hardly a small vocal group as was discussed in today's paper. These residents deserve to have their concerns fully considered. Since then, Lake June Park has changed. The
tourist development council has added annual events to the park and residents have seen increased weekend and holiday usage. I have certainly witnessed that. Has the town fully evaluated whether demand for this property has changed
before committing to a permanent new use? Ultimately, the question of priorities and responsible stewardship is before the taxpayer. We do know that at Bishop Park because of the new amenities there and all the additional
costs, we now know that people from there are coming to Lake June Point to use that park because it's it's it's cheap. They don't have to pay to go swimming. And at Bishop Park, there's a lot of expenses. So, the point comes down to I'm not in favor of sending out
an RFP because we know it's going to come back. Last year it was coming back at over $100,000 above and at that time there was a motion put on the board and it never got passed to do away with and consider it. In addition, Placid Lakes is building pickle ball
courts and they're opening it to the community. So we have pickle ball courts going in there. How many pickle ball courts do we need? Thank you. >> Thank you. Good evening, council members. Sheila
Bay at 146 Brentwood Drive. In support of what you have just heard from Mrs. Marlene Barger, I truly believe that town council has far more important items to be concerned about at this time. We all read about what is happening at state, county, and local
levels with overbudget items and frankly your anticipated infrastructure expenses play a much more important expenditure than pickle ball courts at this time. It might be of interest to you to know that our courts at Tmoka Heights aren't
being used today because the retiree players have all headed north. So here we've got courts that are just sitting there. We are living in a very different time today and the country was some and we are living in very different times
today than the country was some 8 to 10 years ago. And contrary to what we are told our overall Lake Placid population is not increasing to the extent that we are led to believe. Unfortunately, the Lake Placid area has
to contend with four or five areas created by the old land sales era. Thousands of acres and percentagewise mostly vacant today. The voting population of Lake Placid on a local basis is 1,000 plus. Thus, based
on that figure, you need to monitor your projects and anticipated ones very closely. Annexation should be more of a should be of a major importance today. Last week I listened to the commission meeting wherein they were speaking of impact
fees in order to support infrastructure figures submitted 18,000 plus. By the end of the meeting they were talking of less than half. Council members put your pickle ball project to bed for today. You have many
more important items to be concerned about. May I be so blunt as to finish by saying, "Take the blinkers off." Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, Charles Wilson, 763 Sunset
P Point Drive. Um, the only concern I have about the general contractor, which I'm open to, is the costs may be And correct me if I'm wrong, but there
are can you piggyback with excavation point to do a certain work portion of the work as they're al already a vendor for the county? >> Well, currently they're not. We need to go back out to excavation point because
they were piggybacked before. So, that needs to be a new bid. >> Well, well, that one went beyond the 30 months, >> right? They all did. Yeah. And that's and that's why I I think it's more about >> or just get an actual bid. If you have the general contractor being
someone who builds courts, there's a couple of them. N's one of them. And then have someone I what I'm trying to say is I believe and people don't understand a lot of this and we've talked about this a lot, but the Ferdab grant mandates the aid.
So if you change it then you don't get the ARPAC funding for the for the public. So that's pretty much set in stone. You lose that then you lose the ARPAC and that daisy chain. So what I'm trying to say is that
money we've we've already encumbered $60ome,000 not counting personnel costs or legal costs to this point. I understand the tra the traffic point that's going to come off the cost and everything,
but if you're able to put it out to bid for the court construction and have the site work done and have Kimly Horn, I think that may be a that $6,000 for is
for the supervision of the bid and is that as built as well to to make sure It's as built to their plan specs. >> That's what >> that would be the plan. >> Yeah, that's what the bid would need to be. Are you asking what did Kimley Horn
submit this evening on the agenda or something different? >> Well, I'm asking if um the $6,000 for writing the RFP. >> Right. Right. That was Kimley Horn says we'll write up >> that's just for writing the the the bid itself. >> Right. That wasn't managing the project
or anything. They did submit something for the management at some point, didn't they? >> Not to my knowledge. >> I think it's in the 8 inch binder. >> I think >> No, no. This current one, Kimley Horn hasn't. This is
>> Previously, I think Kimley Horn put in a big >> I think there may be one, but I I could be wrong. I'm not sure. >> But the general contractor may be a tougher nut to crunch. But people also have to realize the scope of the project
too and the cost. I believe that you still can get it done >> time. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Chad Heath, 588 Sunset Point Drive, Lake Placid. I want to ask a fundamental question.
Why are we doing this? We've got all these financial problems in front of us and we want to build an amenity that we don't even know if the majority of voters want it. It's never been out for referendum. We have some evidence that a lot of people don't want it. And we have the
some evidence that from a survey that was put up in the uh internet that anybody could respond to that a few hundred people do want it. Can't we put this on a referendum? We've got an election coming up soon. Let's
find out who really wants this thing. And should we be spending perhaps a million dollars by the time this is done on a white elephant? We shouldn't be doing it. We should be paying our bills and they're big. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Please state your name and address for the record. >> Good evening. Dana Redell, uh, town planner for the record, 31280 Tango Drive. I just wanted to offer the town council
based on Miss Haye's comments um assistance with any projects that the town needs going forward that if the town would like to preemptively work with planning to understand the permitting concept for or process for
any projects before they move forward with them. Um, I'm more than happy to work with the town in that capacity with no additional charge. And that's something I've proactively asked to be involved with over the years. And I have unfortunately not been successful in my
pursuit. Um, >> I guess that's it. >> Your mic was cut. Well, you're you're as close to the audio video that you can get, right? My apologies. Um, so in comments
regarding traffic concurrency, I would not have known the cost of a traffic study, but I would have been able to assist with that. Um, unfortunately, it's really not in my purview to oversee projects. I've not been asked to do that, but I would love to get my hands in that area if there's any concerns
regarding how projects are being managed in the town of Lake Placid. Um to the the point of there's an additional charge for a traffic study, I believe that there must have been some kind of miscommunication with the county when the methodology meeting was
initially held. I have not reviewed the traffic study. It is not in my purview to review. that is handled entirely by the Highlands County Engineering Department. Um, and it's a requirement of theirs, but I didn't know
that that requirement existed for any new infrastructure development. And again, like I said, I I try to be proactive in getting involved in projects before they get started, but it's not always wellreceived. So, I'm putting it out to the council tonight that I would be more than happy to
assist proactively and preemptively before it ever gets to that point. >> Thank you. And um let me just add to what uh Dana is saying and Councilwoman Hayes on your um comment earlier because I was going to comment on that is when
staff came to me with a $6,000 Kim Lee Horn to go out to bid and a 4,500 transportation study. I remembered we had previously approved a 7,500 transportation study. And what I was told that this is an addition because
the county required something more. I immediately called Dana and said, "Help me out here." And I mean, she was in equally as confused. So, what I plan to do is I'm going to call Kimley Horn. So, I mean, I know this motion is to for the
bid documents, but I'm separately going to call Kimley Horn because I actually said to staff, "Wait a minute, did they not do what we paid them to do in the first place? Why would we now have to go out with another study?" and and so I wanted to look at that original contract
so I could be prepared and make that call to Kim Lee Horn because my first reaction is no I paid you to do something why didn't you anticipate what needed to be done so you know Dana as she's doing now had volunteered however I can help and I would like to help on that
>> thank you >> and then I mean and then the other is this is just lessons learned for us I mean we've got this project that's been going on and we don't have internal staff to work on it and so what we're doing is we're pulling from staff's regular assignments that they can't do
that they can't I shouldn't say they can't do but but we're prioritizing this with staff who's not if if you will skilled to be able to and 100% built. So we have a lot of lessons learned on this clearly.
>> Yeah. And honestly, if council wanted to give me the go-ahad or if Mayor Charles wanted to pick up the ball on this, I'm willing to attend some meetings with you. I believe that if we had some conversations with Highlands County Engineering Department, we might
be able to find some kind of middle ground because it's either the county didn't clearly state how the methodology needed to occur or the traffic engineer perhaps misunderstood or there was a change between the methodology meeting and the actual study being done.
Something happened. And it's not my experience that during a traffic study if there's amendments needed that there's additional charges for it. You usually expect that there's some change that is going to be required to the traffic study. Usually it's not in the
tune of an additional $4,000. So I'm happy to help like I said. >> Okay. And appreciate that because that would be the second phase. The first phase is let's determine how much the budget would be in order to build this. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. Thank you, >> Madame Mayor. If I might, in support of
my motion, that's why I didn't even kind of what I will call cloud the the deal with the traffic study because that's a secondary thing. We can have a lot of conversations with Laura and JD up in Highlands County. I can assure the public that we're not going to spend a million dollars on the pickle ball
courts. We earlier tonight approved in our CR CIS $699,274. like the town of Lake Placid's share of that is $200,000. We have already expended 45% of that. To
me, it's worth spending another $1,000, maybe $2,000, primarily Mr. Durham's time to get a price. Now, if if the bid comes back from a general contractor and it's5 grand, it's 705, then we have a conversation. If it's eight or $900,000,
then I believe most of us will then say, "Well, we just can't do it in this in this time mana." So, I am not at all interested in in trying to keep a project alive that's hundreds of thousands of dollars over what has previously been approved. I think the
general contractors will understand that our budget is basically $700,000 >> and that if they want that job, they're going to have to come back in that neighborhood. And um so I think if they
have precalls and they call you, Madame Mayor, Mr. Durm, and say, "Hey, we're looking at $850,000 minimum," you can tell them, "Well, save your time." you know, so that's in support of my motion. >> Okay. Any other comments from the audience?
>> I I just have one one extra comment if you would. We spoke um or at least I I mentioned several meetings ago when when when you started in as mayor um Mayor Charles that precisely what has plagued this
council for the past four years that I've been on council and I would suggest for the four years prior and my two colleagues beside me can probably tell me if that's right that once council makes a decision that we need to go forward with that decision. It's duly
vetted. It is it's made a motion. It is seconded. It's discussed adnauseium. Then we vote on it and it should be done. Precisely these two things that came up and I appreciate the public coming up. But the two people that came up with the paper number one and and
that the pickle ball should go to referendum. These ships have sailed. And I've said this before. This is precisely what has plagued the council for the past four years. This item of pickle ball courts has been
discussed for 8 inches of paperwork years for since at least 2022 or prior and we have come to a determination that we want to build pickle ball courts as a
council. We have come to that decision now because we have waited an additional four years. Now we are wondering can we afford it because we could have four years ago and now maybe not. However,
please let's stop the bleeding. People were asked if they wanted pickle ball courts. Maybe you don't recall they filled this room. Half over there, yes. Half over there, no. But they filled the room. Okay. And we decided as a council,
we made a decision. That's what we're elected to do. I think it's important and it's our obligation to our constituents that we move forward once we make a decision that we don't continue to rehash and rehash because
that's what got us where we are today. Thank you. >> Thank you. My name is Rosemary Heath one on 588 Sunset Point Drive at Placid. Um, >> can you move the microphone to >> I'm sorry. I would like to question the
validity of the survey. When you look at that survey and you look at statistics, it it's impossible to have those statistics. I don't have the paperwork in front of me, so I can't explain. But if you sat there and looked at the
results, you can't possibly have those results. You can't possibly have 98 of any percent ever happen with people. They just I mean 30% 40% of the population,
but you know 90% of the population I don't think so. I brought that survey. The survey hasund 126 signatures. Um, people don't want the pickle ball courts where the
children play. You're taking away the green space from the children. And it's unfair to those children. There's no place for them to go to play touch football. And where are the people going to park?
Um during the holiday there were boat trailers parked all over where the pickup ball courts would go. Where are these boat trailers going to go? And the diagram you have allows for 11 of them. Usually there's 15 16
boat trailers in the park. There's not enough space with them if you add the pickupole courts. And there's not enough space for the children. That's the saddest part at all is those children play in that space.
The picnicers come there and the children are playing everywhere. I saw people doing um bad mitten right in the middle of the the green space. That green state space is important to those
children and no one's taking them into consideration. And also, no one's taken into consideration what the town voters want. You need to either bring this up in a referendum. We've had nothing that's been transparent with this at
all. Everything's been decided behind screens. The votes have been not in public. This is something that and I walked house to house to house to house over 500 houses. Not one person wanted pickle
ball. And these are your residents. Your residents that are in this town. Maybe Sabrin wants pickle ball courts, but certainly Lake Placid residents do not. And you need a study because going
forward with those pickle ball courts. We need to fix playgrounds. We don't need to be build pickle ball courts. The playgrounds are in such need repair. I have that too. I have a list of um the repairs that need to be done. Anyway,
thank you. >> Thank you. Okay, any other comments? Bring it back. Clerk, please take the role. >> Council member Roy, >> yes. >> Council member Hayes,
>> yes. Now and forever. Yes. >> Council member Sap, >> yes. >> Council member Everheart, >> no. >> Okay, motion passes. Thank you. Uh we'll move on to action item F, uh town
council meeting and workshop dates. Um and if you want to put the workshop dates up on the screen. So, so this is just getting ready for the budget and the budget workshops and that um that'll be coming up is um the
the staff uh put together you know based on council meetings and then where we can have uh workshop meetings for the budget and that and uh generally we have about three and it's like every other week um as we get into the budget season
and so these are proposed dates that you know I want to see with um council if they're you're going to be available for the date. As we get into the budget workshops, sometimes we don't need the third one. We would cancel it, but at least we get it on the schedule and that Eva can make the proper um newspaper
notifications and that. Um so, here's kind of a whole series of um you know, July 13th is where we'll set the millage rate uh to start the budget process. So, that will just be at the regular budget uh the regular town council meeting. And
then um what they're uh proposing is Thursday, July 16th at 2:00. It would be a joint workshop council regional utility uh commission. And I'm looking at Matt Elliott over there, the chairman. Um and that this would be where where Florida Rural Water Asset
Management Plan would give their presentation of the current or suggested rate structure. Um and the utility staff would present a recommended path forward um in order to incorporate uh the the
recommendations from Florida Rural Water Asset Management. And then regarding the budget, kind of the the um the next three are the proposals for the three workshops. And that would be the 2026 and 27 fiscal year budget,
the CIS that we talked about earlier, the five-year um uh capital improvement schedule, and then the 10-year financial strategy. That would be August 27th at 5:30. Then, I'm sorry, let me just back up.
That would be July 30th at 5:30. And then a week later, uh August 6th at 5:30. And then um two weeks, three weeks after that would be August 27th. And that would be able to bring that forward to the regular council meeting on
September 14th for the first hearing of the fiscal year budget. And then the following Monday would be the final adoption of that budget. Uh what this does is that gives us um time to start preparing a preliminary budget that we
would present at the July 30th. We'd be able to have that discussion. we tweak it, come back a week later with what that looks like. So, um, first wanted to make council aware and see if there's any conflicting dates, uh, specifically
for council on these proposed dates. And I and I'll just pause for a minute. Is there anything that council sees that would be uh unavailable? >> I will not be here for the first two meetings of July, but all the other meetings work. Okay. >> And I can catch up on that pretty
easily. >> Okay. So, so and and we'll get that. So, the the the actual regular council meeting that one. Okay. >> We'll be there for the 13th council meeting.
>> It's the first three weeks of July. I'm gone. I may come back. >> Okay. Anyone else? Okay. We'll get those. And as we move forward to prepare for the budget, I just want to throw that out right now is
to get any input on ideas. I mean, the process I like is let's get the ideas from the council. What are some of the budget ideas that you want us to try to bake in? I mean, I would imagine that, you know, our first cut at the budget may be way over
because we got all of these great things we want to do, but then that'll give us a chance at that first budget workshop of this is the input that we have and that we can start tweaking and prioritizing that. So, as I'm working with staff directly on what are the I'll
call it the needs in order to budget and then secondary, what are the wants? the same thing for council and the public to try to get any of those items so that we can at least have a comprehensive list to work from and then we can start peeling that down so that we can make
decisions. But yet some of the things may not make a cut at this year's budget, but then we have that five-year and the 10-year, you know, that we can um I think do a good job of trying to represent what a lot of the community um needs and wants are. So, no motions
needed on this. This was anformational item. Okay. So, just um just a a question on July 13th. It says set the proposed millage rate to
begin the budget process. If I'm not mistaken, that's where we set a rate and we cannot go higher than that rate, but we can go lower. >> Am I correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, right now our millage rate is 3.65.
65. You know, EVO, we will get the cuts that how much, you know, we're anticipating even to get revenue from um from the county in that and then we'll use that meeting to make the recommendation. Is it 3.65? Is it 2.65?
Is it 4.65? The exactly like you're saying though, whatever rate we make there, we can go below. We can reduce it. We can't go higher. >> That's the published rate, >> right? That's the published rate. and that. Okay. Any other questions any to the
audience on that one? Okay. Um so we'll just kind of quickly go around um starting with staff. Do you have any open items? Allan Dana. Oh, see we silenced you again. Oh
>> to the baiff. >> Go back there. >> Either way. Um, since I have the wireless, I'll just go back here. Um, again, Dana Redell, town planner. For the record, I have two applications
for plan developments currently in the works. This morning, I got an application for another fiber optic company, I3 broadband. After today, I'm sure I'll get another submitt for uh Clearwave to continue with their
permitting process for fiber. Uh the town, the Highlands County Building Department moved over to electronic submissions. Um, it's only for permits that are permitted through Highlands County. So, things like driveway permits and
internal sign permits are not included. So, those are still hard copy submitts or electronics strictly through v uh email through the town. Um, I I had to kind of proactively coordinate with Highlands County
regarding that change. Um, there wasn't much information put out about that. And you know, we're just working on daily permitting approvals and and things of that nature. You all have my director's reports, but that's what comes to mind right now.
Okay. Um, thank you, Rachel. Anything, Chief? Anything? you you don't want to tell us what how your project out here is looks like it's ahead of schedule below budget and
>> um it is >> some of the furniture you're finding that we can get for free from some other locations. Uh it was all placed in the director's report, but yes, we were uh able to actually uh Anita McDaniel and Captain Troutman were able to find
enough furniture to fill the building for free uh with no cost to the taxpayers. It was actually a pretty wonderful job both of them did. the uh building itself currently the date being kicked around which is not official.
They're just leaking it out there is possibly before Halloween that we will be in the building. >> Oh, that's way ahead. >> That's that's definitely way ahead of schedule. Uh we are not supposed to right now this week according to the
schedule is when we were supposed to start having the um the trusses put up. And right now we already have the trusses up, the first dryin done, all the roughing is done for the um sprinkler system, the electrical, the um
plumbing, and we currently have our low voltage system coming in this upcoming week. Once that's done, they'll start looking at windows in a week or two. Once the windows are in, the stucco goes on and the drywall starts to go up. So,
it's moving very rapidly. Great. And thanks for your leadership and moving that project along. Um Leanne, Leanne's representing utilities. Brandon's on vacation. Do you have anything? We're thumbs up. Okay. Um
okay. on the dis. Mr. Durham, Councilwoman Iber um just for the benefit of everybody um watching her out there, we all went to the uh emergency operations training uh
up in Sebring. Uh we all went for a tour of the Amazon facility and um they do you know they uh painted the buildings at Lake June Park a few months ago and they really want to help with the town. They're looking for any ideas where they
can help out. So it's nice to have them there. Um then on Memorial Day I went to Sebring um that afternoon to the Mi Military Sea Services Museum and I had never been there before. It's wonderful.
It's It'd be It just You need to get up there. It's It's awesome. And it's all run by It's run by volunteers. So, if you go, you have to check the schedule. >> Councilman Sap pass. Councilwoman Hayes.
>> Madame Mayor, do we have anyone uh slated to go to Leadership Highlands this year? Or could we? >> I'm not aware. What is that? >> Are you not aware of what Leadership Highlands is? >> No that we have anybody to go.
>> We actually had planned on sending uh Sergeant Mullins to from the police department through Leadership Highlands this year. >> Okay. There's two Did he say two? >> Interim town administrator has >> Oh, I'm in your way. Sorry. I am a 2024
graduate of leadership islands. >> So, you're planning on two people? >> I've already gone. Uh, but right now I have Sergeant Mullins going and I have not looked at anyone for the town yet. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. I just think it's that's such a good program. I've gone
through it. Um, I would not like to tell you how many years ago, but it was quite a few. Shut up, Michael. You're laughing over there. It's when he was with the sheriff's office. Um, but it's a wonderful program and you learn a lot about Highlands County. So, I think
that if we have an opportunity to send one of our staff, I think it's great that the chief is going to send one of our police officers as well. So, okay. >> Um, other than that, I think I've commented far enough tonight. >> Council member Royce, >> I'll be very brief. I promise. I think
it's just important after going through this budget stuff, you know, in our town about 19% of the Avalorum take comes from homesteaded properties and so we will work under the assumption
that the referendum will pass in the fall and there'll start to be some repercussions um for the 2728 budget year and I don't think we're going to be able and and obviously we don't know how the state
plans to to mitigate the losses that that towns and counties such as ours are going to face. So so there there there will be some form of additional revenue to make up some of that because theoretically at the end of it we could have about a 7 and a half% decrease in
abalorum revenue coming in. But uh I think it's a reminder that we need to be focused on economic development in in our town. And the way we work this is if you have commercial, retail, industrial
properties. Obviously, they're going to pay abilum taxes. They require less services. And so as we move forward, I think we need to start to think more and more how do we um incentivize work with people. We're also going to
assume the county will impose impact fees at a lower rate schedule um starting October 1st. We need to understand what our role of trying to offer incentives working through the county can or can't be. The town won't
have impact. These will all be county, but they will also impact anything that's coming into the municipality. So, I would hope that once we kind of get a couple more months down the road and we get our ship going again that we
start to think more and more about what are we what can we or should we be doing in regards to economic development. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. And um just on that note, I didn't mention earlier, but you know, people start asking Rachel, what's the
impact of the tax, you know, uh referendum going to have on us? And of course, we don't know that yet, but we anticipate within the next couple weeks and before the budget workshop, too, to be able to get at least a estimate of what that impact, if it passed, would
you know, be on Lake Placid. Um the last thing I just wanted to add before we close it out is um we're in some preliminary planning stages for July 4th to do a 250 year celebration. And so we started kicking that around. Chief
kicked it around. Um Mrs. Dear Margadier, we kicked it around. And so we're pulling together a we're going to do something. We're going to do it at Deain Park. You know, we're still looking at do we do it 11 to two. So, we're working out um when we're, you know, chief has volunteered, they got a
barbecue, he'd pull pull out looking at maybe public's elsewhere getting hot dogs and what we can do um to at least acknowledge for our town and do some celebration for the Fourth of July um 250 year anniversary. Allen already has
flags. Um, and rather than put them up now like Seurn has, and they're all faded probably about two weeks before, you'll start seeing Deain Park and elsewhere, uh, the flags going up and many of them 250 year knowing that it's only going to be this year that we can
use them. So, just wanted to throw that out there if anybody has ideas. You know, we've got volunteers for music. We're looking at different ways that we can at least um, pick a date. I'm not the dates pick a time and then put some publication out to the um to the town
recognizing at night we have the fireworks so we don't want to do it um later in the day but we also and we want to do it earlier to avoid the heat so okay I have nothing else uh so it's I will call this meeting to adjourned at
7:36 meeting adjourned