Tina is going to turn her phone on and begin recording. >> Okay. >> Okay. We'll give you a few minutes. Sorry. Yes, >> I agree. Televised is not required. I was going toward the just the voice recording.
>> I was going to say my husband just said it's working now. Her [laughter] minions say it's working. >> Technology broadband. >> She's ready. >> She's ready. >> All right. Here we
>> All right. Very good. All right. Any other public comments? All right. We'll go uh we'll go to the consent agenda A through D. I'll make a motion that we approve the
consent agenda. >> A second. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second. Any comments from the podium? >> I have two comments on two different meetings. So, on the hopefully I can get these meetings right.
on the November 4th town council meeting under the um the pickle ball. I think one of the things that was raised that needs to be included is concerns raised on the ARPAC risk since the scope has changed from
paving in the boat ramp area to just pvious parking. The town administrator says Brandon Gun of ARPAC stated no concerns. So that's fine, but that needs to be included, I believe, in the minutes. >> Was that for the October 4th meeting,
which was the workshop or >> No, I I have November. >> November 4th, I'm sorry. >> November 4th. >> Is that the workshop meeting or was it >> I don't think it was the workshop meeting. It's >> Hold on. >> It's on page 12 of 79. So that would be the
11. >> Yes, page 12. That was the work. Page seven. Page seven. Page 12 of page 79. And I'm trying to back track to see which meeting. I think
that's the November 4th. Is it November 10th? I'm sorry. the November 10th, the first meeting of November. >> We'll leave it to council to vote to change. >> I don't know what section that was.
>> I'm It was It was in the I guess it's under the public comments. It was under it's under the pickle ball moving forward with the pickle ball on the ferd app and the arpac grants to to continue to take the money from the one and then under public comments included
there were concerns raised and this is one of the res the concerns is the risk with ARPAC because the ARPAC um grant stated paving and paved and pvious parking and
now it's just pvious parking, no paving. And questions continue to come up. Is that putting our pack grant at risk? The $299,000 because we've changed from the scope of the work to
just pvious parking and that's everybody wanted the boat ramp area with all those potholes. So, that continues to be a concern, but I guess Charlotte had talked with Brandon Gunn at ARPAC and he said, "Nope, there's no concerns. its conceptual plan.
I think a lot of people still don't think changing from pavement to just per pavement of the boat ramp area and paved impervious parking to just pvious parking is just conceptual. There's material changes
>> and as summary action minutes we try to capture everything. I leave it to council to vote if they want to make the change. It was it was it was a comment that came out in the meeting. >> So, okay. You need a motion. I
>> Well, she has another change. So, >> well, for the this is for this meeting. The next one would be the second meeting. A change for the second meeting. Do you need to take them one at a time? >> No, I can take them all at once. Okay. So then the November
17th meeting and this is something I said so this would be what my recommendation to change would be. Councilwoman Charles addressed concerns on the 192,000 infrastructure reserve being used and utility the utility infrastructure being
used which should go out to bid as a separate project and also reviewed with the recommendations to proceed from the utility commission. So 192,000 was considered under the value engineering, but it's going to be a separate fund that's going
to be used. But rather than go out to bid, we're going to continue with the same supplier who bid it versus $192,000 infrastructure utilities infrastructure project should go to the utilities commission.
town attorney disagrees with with uh the MUN code and but um but it also should be a separate project by itself. I'm I'm not opposed to the project. It's just never come to council or the utility commission on exactly what it is and it
was incorporated into a bigger project scope and now we're pulling it out to fund it separate which means it's a separate project. So, my my words on that was Councilwoman Charles addressed concerns on the $192,000
utility infrastructure reserve being used, which should be bid out as a separate project and also reviewed with recommendations to proceed from the utility commission. >> Can I make a comment? And just for the record, we've gone to
action minutes because if we do the back and forth of who said, she said, and go back and forth with that, we will have extensive minutes for our town clerk to record. So that's why we've kept it to action items. >> And there have been previous um comments
that my minutes prior to were not being put forward accurately. So I've moved to action minutes for that purpose. um so I can just get the facts and the motions out um as best that I can, but we're not consistent. So that's it's
it's up to council. Those are my concerns on significant spending. >> And if anyone ever wants to know, it's always able to be able to record it and we've also provided it with historical knowledge that anyone can request at any time. time and that's also been
published to the website for pertaining to pickle ball and anyone and also in the packets we've also provided historical documentation. >> So where we at? So, because this is not like a he said, she said, but there are things that were
stated that were wanted to be in the record as being concerns. Um, I would like to uh add to make a motion to address her councilwoman Charles concerns and that the notes would reflect that there were uh there
was a discussion regarding whether the change in scope would uh affect our eligibility for the grant the u the for grant
>> ARPAC grant and then the second one for the record is the question as to whether the uh 192,000 should have gone before the utilities commission. My only concern is is that because the
minutes have gotten so long and that this was an actual decision to be made. We're only going to do it the minutes are going to be action minutes. They're not going to be I said something and now I want it on the minutes too. And then we want the some of the public wants
their comments on there because it's gotten so lengthy. What we've tried to do and I think this is the movement. This is all new. This is new. It's not okay. So we're not going to be changing around. It's just a movement to make it more efficient. And the requirement is
is to do the action minutes, not to have the historical record put into the minutes. So if we start going backwards, we're going to say, "Well, I said this and let's put that in there." And then somebody's going to say, "Well, I said this, let's
put that in there." So action minutes are a new thing. It's a brand new way to do this. I agree with that. I think the action minutes are what actually happens. If you want to get into the detail of discussion, then we can put everything anybody said in the whole
meeting, which some of our meetings are four or five hours long, and I can say, well, I wasn't in there. Why wasn't why what I said in there? So, what I'm trying to say is that we have moved to a more efficient way of doing the minutes.
I agree with that. So, I'd like my motion to stand. Uh, I'd like my second to stand as well. And I agree, uh, minutes are supposed to be a compilation of what occurred. And, um, if we need to get a verbatim of of
what what occurred, then we should go back or whomever is wanting to do that should go back into the public record and and view the recording of the me the meeting and then everything that everyone said can be clearly uh, clearly noted. But these are minutes. These are
summaries of what happened. And uh I think I think that's that's what it needs to be because I know that if I went through the minutes, there's a lot of things that I've said during the meetings that are not written down here verbatim of what I said. Um but the the
sum total of what happened is what's in is what's in the minutes and that's what minutes are for. So my I would like my second to stand as well. And that's fine. My comment was because these are very significant impacts on both of these. One is a
procurement impact of a project that's over 10,000 that should go out to bid, but it was incorporated into a bigger project, but then separately pulled out as a separate project, but saying we're not going to go out to bid because it went out to bid in the bigger project. That's a red flag concern to me for
internal controls. And then the second is I am concerned on the RPAC because of the change in scope not the conceptual change. So you know again it's up to council. I get it. But I think that both of these are
pretty significant and and I would think that anything that's significant we would want the records the written record to acknowledge. I think all that was stated during the meeting and now we're bringing it up and it's not even on the agenda for anybody here to discuss it again. So, we're discussing
an issue that we voted on and was ended and now we're in the minutes. We're just approving minutes. Now, we're going back and I think I've heard everything you said at that meeting and I remember you saying that. But to to rehash it now when we're just approving the minutes, I think we're getting into discussion that
we shouldn't be having because it's not on the agenda. And somebody else could be here and they said, "Well, I remember it this way and I remember it that way." So, I'm just saying let's I think we should just move on with the minutes. If you don't if you don't like the way they're being done now, the action we
don't want to move to action minutes, then you should say that. And then we'll just start having a thousand pages every day. every time we meet of the hours of meetings because I want there in there what I said too. I said it it's on
record and it can be pulled up as a pack uh public record request but just for our minutes it's supposed to be action items. So I think that's where we've moved to keep it simple to know what the actual facts were in a detailed way and
if that wasn't done properly then yes we need to address it but I think this is a brand new it is a new concept. I agree. >> Okay. P of interest 12373 Lost Lake Drive Lake Placid. Um
I these were extremely detailed minutes. I read the packet. So in there you had the original motion. You had amended motion. Extremely detailed. I think if um Councilwoman Charles had made the motion to include I make a motion to
approve blah blah blah with these conditions in there. and it was then seconded and and the majority voted in favor of it, then the actual action item would reflect that. However, the motion was made and seconded and the
vote was a 3 to2 on the actual motion made that night. So, you can't go even the comments say they were two hours and discussion went back and forth and the public came up and discussed. You can't add that to later on back like I like this one, I didn't like this. You can't
add that back to the the motion that was passed that night. It's very simple. >> Well, I know, but that's what it's it's it's picking and choosing what to then say we we voted on. I don't think you can do that. I don't think you can open
up. Thank you. >> Let me comment. Thank you, Pam. But that wasn't the intent. It was under there's there's comments captured. So, there was no intent at all on the motion that was made. It's the minutes from that meeting that are being captured now is what I
said there was a couple items that should were missing. Agree. It's not to change or revote or anything. It's just when there was something significant that to just put it in the record that the
red flag was raised on such and such and that's it. not to rehash it, not to revote, just to know that the concern was expressed. >> All right. So, where are we? >> We have a motion and second >> to do what? >> To accept
>> to what? >> To approve the consent agenda, unless council member Worley or Hayes would like to have the additional information. >> Well, I don't agree. and and there's things I said that if we're going to start doing that, let's just put everybody's comments in there because
it's I think what I say is significant as well. Okay. So, what I said is a significant and if it can't be in there too that I mean we're doing a new way of doing this. This is a new day, a new efficient way of addressing our meetings
and helping staff as well. But it's being very concise and consistent. And I don't think I think this is a better way to do it. And I think it's actually a more fair way because what if somebody's comments gets in there and mine don't? >> And I'm not going to sit up here and be
late. Oh, well, I said this and it can't be in there. So, I think this is much more efficient. So, I'm going to go ahead and call for the vote. Um, I think I'm not going to do it Robert's rules of order, but I just think we need to vote on this. >> All right. Go ahead and pull the
council. Council member Worley, >> yes. >> Council member Hayes, >> yes. >> Council member Charles, >> no. >> Council member Everheart, >> yes. Okay. Uh, I don't have anything on number
five. All right, we'll go to public hearings. Second reading ordinance 2025-9. I'm going to make a motion to approve and adopt upon second reading ordinance number 2025-9 to amend the 2024-2025
annual budget to reflect annual expenses and to make the line item adjustment decreasing the budget by 11,000 128. >> Is that a typo? Gotch. >> It's 11 million.
>> 11 million. >> Pardon? 11 million. >> 11 million. >> That's not a type of Yay. Okay. 11,128,26369 with an effective date of September 30th, 2025.
>> Second. >> Should I read that? Yes, sir. I'm going to have to read the ordinance in entirely for the record. Ordinance number 2025-9 and an ordinance of the town of Lake Placid providing for amendments to the
town budget providing light item adjustments to reflect actual expenses and revenue and to remove budget projects that rolled over into the 2025-2026 fiscal year and providing for an
effective date. So we have a motion and a second. Any comments? Take it to the audience. Bring it back. Pull the council. >> Council member Worley. >> Yes. >> Council member Hayes. >> Yes. >> Council member Charles.
>> Yes. >> Council member. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay, we'll now go to action agenda and this is property lot 209 Placid Lakes Industrial Park. And I'll turn this over
to our town attorney. >> You can see the question presented by Mr. Rhodess. You can see the question presented by Mr. Rhodess. Um I have absent authority by the town I
have not pulled title work. Mr. Rhodess did. I have not done basic examination. You see his question. I don't see I I don't know the history of this purported Lake Placid Public Library
board of directors. I don't know whether it's an affiliate of the town. I have no personal recollection of it. I know there was a board of directors of friends of the library some time back. This is a looks like a low value
property. Um and they're asking the town to give a deed to it. I see no greater interest that they have that that we would have um no no greater right or claim and they
act like the town has no interest. Well, if we don't, they know don't need a deed from us. If we do, we ought to say it's mine. Um I I don't have an answer because I haven't done any diligence beyond what you see in this agenda item.
um if they're going to get a deed out of the town, they would need an ordinance. That's the only way you can convey real property. That's um per your uh not your code, but your charter. Um and that cost of course should be theirs, not the
towns. So, I look for your direction. So did u Mr. Harris did you did you do these options where we have um option to authorize staff to seek information
on the grantee and the original deed from Mr. Tober and report back to council to determine whether to claim of disclaim whether to claim of disclaim and interest. And then the second point is if disclaimer is determined to be the
next step, staff recommend that the required research ordinance etc. be at the expense of those clearing title. Is that is that from you? Okay. And and then the only thing I would say which is this is what we need
to do is that um that they should be responsible for all cost to the town even during your research that we shouldn't I mean I obviously I think this is just a title problem that was
somehow passed along and missed. Um, I agree with that, but I don't think that we should be paying to correct it. >> I agree. >> Okay. So, I whatever, however we need to word it, maybe you could give us a if
that's the direction of what everybody wants to do, maybe give us a motion that we can say that motion, but I want it to me personally, I don't I don't want I think this is just a title clearance, but it shouldn't cost the town anything
to give them clear title. Do you want me or anyone else on staff to do any further diligence or do you just want to say Mr. Roads if you want to clear it um your cost that's I can do either. It does not matter to me and like you I
don't know whether there is any basis for the town's claim or not. Well, even if we had a claim, it's it's um for the public, the just value of the property would be 10,000, which equate to fair market value of 12,000, which is because
the well, if you're going off the appraisers records, they cut out, you know, 20%. And we >> So, I mean, if we I mean, if we could go to a full appraisal, but it just sounds like it's just it's a clearing title. And I don't know what you all think, but
I think that maybe we should, as long as you're, you know, it's it's up to you, whatever we should do. Me, can can anybody summarize the short version of this? Is this a lot out in
Placid Lakes? You know, I'm I'm trying to figure out exactly what this is. And it's saying like a a lot out in Placid Lakes Industrial Park or >> correct >> we're so not even the town limits
something that the town owned >> or or Placid Lakes owned and the library and so I'm trying I'm trying to understand the backstory on this by when I read all this it still made no sense to me like >> that's what we've been trying to unravel
as well. Hey, >> because it doesn't it didn't make sense to us either. Councilwoman Charles and Eva did a search and we can find nothing on this and the same as what our town attorney is saying. So, but it's it's been brought to our attention because they believe that we have some
responsibility in this. >> Are they trying to sell it and that's where it came out? So there there's a specific lot out in Placid Lakes industrial site that somebody wants to sell and somewhere deep into the title search
similar to Mr. Feifer's project property and some others that this is coming out that >> whoever the owner thinks he is really there's a tie to Lake Placid Town. [snorts] Well, it was a little different from Fipers and that this one was a
specific deed and I can't read the date on it. I believe it was back in the 80s >> out of August Tobler who was the developer of Placid Lakes, >> right? >> To um >> the owner or the library board.
>> The library board, Lake Placid Library Board. >> I don't know who that is. >> Bert, you're the historian. How would we ever have a tie way out in Placid Lakes? I remember there there was a group of ladies and Miss Hargrove um was one,
but I don't remember them doing business under that name. It was they were more the historical folks. >> So, has this been a taxable a property taxable property? Has somebody been paying has has this owner been paying property
taxes on this which eludes that they own it? >> I don't recall the tax history. um that was disclosed to us. Do you remember >> just this letter says that >> what I what I think is that this is just
not worth even wasting time on. I don't think anybody remembers the 1987 the detail is not available. It's just to clear a title so these people can move on with their lives. And as long as it doesn't cost us any money, I would just say let's just move on and get it the
title straightened out. Not spend any more time on it. It's just a waste of time to me. So, >> thank you. >> If you'll make a motion to that effect, I'll tell Mr. Rhodess he can uh prepare the appropriate ordinance or I will at his expense and it'll have to be advertised and uh proceed with the deed.
>> I make that motion. >> Thank you. >> Second. >> All right, we have a motion to second. Any further comments? >> Take it to the audience. >> Bring it back. Pull the council. >> Council member Worley. >> Yes. Yes. Council member Hayes.
>> Yes. >> Council member Charles. >> Yes. >> Council member Bart. >> Yes. >> All right. I'll take it to staff. We have anything that want to bring up? I don't know. You want to talk anything about the Christmas parade?
Uh, the parade is this Saturday. I haven't spoken to the chief yet, but I believe typical shutdown of Dow Halls around 3:30. And what is Inner Lake like 6:30? Currently, the shutdown will be at 4:30 on Dow Hall. They've set it back to
4:30. The float lineup will begin at 5 and Interlake shutdown will be at 6:45. >> Okay. All right. All right. Bring it back, Mr. Attorney. >> Yes. As a matter of fact, I do. As town
attorney, I am deeply concerned about an issue that I need to bring before council. In 2021, the town applied for an FD septic to sewer grant. Shortly thereafter, the town based on
that application was awarded $40 million. The application and the grant agreements that followed made clear that the money was to be awarded to the town for the septic to sewer projects. No other purpose was mentioned.
The town's new advanced wastewater treatment plant will soon be completed early next year. It is my opinion as town attorney that the town should amend the utility code to reserve a specific
amount of sewer capacity for the town's septic to sewer project that was funded by FDP FD for that particular purpose. Failure to amend your code would allow sewer capacity to be issued to new
development, which is not what the town said it would do with the money. My recommendation is that you immediately begin the process of amending or considering the amendment to the town code to reserve a specific
amount of capacity for the septic to sewer project. Not asking for a decision on that amendment tonight, but I would recommend that you refer it to the uh utility uh comm pardon me the utility
committee for consideration forth will >> do you do you have a recommendation of what level that should be because you've you're kind of the author and you've been spearheading this 40 million you know from the beginning and I know there was different you know there 3,600 homes
and 2600 homes and 700 and then zero. So what what level are you thinking? >> I've given that a lot of thought over the past several months and I would like to say that I really think that would be better discussed as we develop the entire concept rather than just my
opinion because there are other opinions I assure you uh as to what should be set aside. Um, if you pin me down and want my opinion, I'll give you that tonight. But I would prefer that it go to the utility board >> to be properly considered and developed.
>> Okay, fair enough. >> That's why I let let Burton utility department handle that. Yes, I'd like to make a statement to that because this has been an ongoing conversation and while I do understand and respect our town attorney's
position, I think that we have a utility director. So, this is his level of expertise and this is his area that he should be speaking on and making the recommendations. >> And note, I did not exclude Bert Warner from this discussion in the least. >> Understand that. Understand? But as town
attorney, this is my opinion that we should act on this matter. >> Okay? >> And that would make my heart happy because you know when when we talked and I was always afraid that if we didn't fulfill the subject to sewer, we'd be in
trouble. >> Yes, ma'am. But I need to make clarification because sometimes what we put into the public may not necessarily be full and true in its entirety because we have spoken to FT and we've had these conversations on reserving and we have
had the conversations with our town attorney present and we have had many conversations about making sure we're upholding the grant. So if we this is not on the agenda. So I don't think that this is proper. It is. Um, we were both blindsided by this comment or our town
attorney even bringing this forward >> because he's tried several times and you've blocked it each time >> because you're inaccurate. >> Because you're inaccurate. I am absolutely you are inaccurate. >> We're not going there. You You've said it. I'll leave it up to
Bert. As Charlotte said that we haven't been talking to D and they've given us different options. So, like Charlotte said, this is not the time because it's not on the agenda, but we do need to talk about this. Um, we are allowed to
do some development. We are allowed to have uh reservations for septic to sewer. It's just something that has to be discussed and and like I said, it's not on the agenda today and I wasn't aware this was coming up. >> Okay.
Can can I just assume that we are all in agreement that there should be some sort of reserve just how much is up for discussion? >> I think we're way off C. We should have it on the agenda. >> I don't think we should be discussing
this right now. I feel uncomfortable. >> Okay. >> Okay. This is just not on the agenda. There's people that are very invested in this on on different levels, whether they're part of the the the property owners and that. And I just think this
is we do not need to be discussing this at this point. This is just um comments. >> Okay. >> May I speak? >> Where we at? >> You're talking about the sewer to >> This is not an actual So, it's the board
talking. >> Okay. It's just the board topic today. Any other comments from the board >> on that topic or we've just >> No, on this topic. >> Okay. >> Josephine Conley 607 Sunset Point.
This is where I have to take a deep breath. Somewhere along the line, the council has underestimated so many projects. It just makes you sick. I don't know how you could ever estimate the wastewater treatment plant being $3
million. Okay, that's not that long ago. Now we're up to 38 3940 million. We got a problem. And then we go and we estimate all these other projects. Pickle ball was going to be 550. Now it's 700800.
Police department was going to be 1.3 million. Now it's 2,400. I mean, what's going on? So, just please just think about if you need outside help to get some better estimates because I don't know where you got your estimates for
the $3 million $1 million wastewater treatment plant. I mean, we're in a real pickle here. And that's just not covering one item. We have mismanaged, underestimated in the last several several years. And I'm just want
to hope that we can get out of this jam. Okay. And thank you for listening. >> Okay. We don't need to do anything. >> There's no vote or anything.
>> No, it's not on the agenda. So, okay. >> So, we have the town manager, town attorney, and staff. So, town manager, >> we have upcoming meetings. We'll have our first ever strategic plan that will be held between CFRPC and the Small
Business Development Council. If you would like to write down the dates, January 6, 2026 from 5:30 to 7:30 will be our kickoff session. This will launch the process and it will set the foundation, outline deliverables and council particip participation will
signal priority and build trust that will alone align our vision. January 28th, we will invite the businesses and faith-based community to come in for another session from 5:30 to 7:30. The focus is on the workforce. It will be on
tourism, economic development, community partnerships. We also have February 3rd, which will be a residential session also from 5:30 to 7:30. It will be a dedicated space for resident feedback. And then we have February 18th for town leadership
session which will wrap it up from 5:30 to 7:30. And this will facilitate the alignment between the council directives and town operations. We also have met with um the county regarding the DOT projects and also the light at Amazon. I have a meeting
tomorrow with the county and also with DOT at 3:00. And I've been in conversation with our new county engineer Laura Borgzi. I don't know if I'm saying that exactly correct, but I received an email at 519 that she has
said that when the temporary CO was being issued to Amazon that the concerns were discussed. They were concerns that Amazon trucks would be making U-turns at the hospital entrance and that was unacceptable as it would cause delays for emergency traffic trying to enter the hospital for treatment. It was
discussed that we would put no truck U-turn signs at the hospital entrance, but as with most signage, there are many motorists that disregard the signage, and any delay into the hospital was not something that FDOT or the county was willing to gamble with. Essentially, it was decided to leave the intersection at
Amazon open until such time as there was an operational need to place the barrels and force the truck traffic to take a [music] right. They still believe on the county level that unless there is an operational issue that the intersection should remain open at the Amazon.
They do not want any issues with the hospital entrance due to due to a decision that was made regarding 10 Amazon trucks. They're trucks, not the the big trucks. They're the Amazon like vanlike trucks is what they're referring to that are visiting the site. and
that's between 11:00 p.m. and 4:00 a.m. However, we are meeting again collectively to discuss tomorrow afternoon at 3 p.m. So, there will be more information forthcoming. >> Okay. All right. We'll go. We'll start down here. Colleen,
>> just want to know if there's any update on Dell Hall getting that open. I thought we thought it was going to be November then December. And >> yeah, I just got with the uh fire marshall and we passed the inspection there. So, we're just waiting to get
tables and chairs and it'll be ready. >> I'm sorry. Waiting to get what? >> Tables and chairs. >> Okay. How >> we have to order those? >> Okay. So, are we thinking Valentine's Day?
>> I've I've got to get with the company probably tomorrow and see. We got to get them on our vendor list and just order them and see how long it takes to get them. >> And we have that in the budget >> tables and chairs for Dell Hall. >> Yes.
>> Okay. You also have to set rates because remember that's the other dilemma is what are we going to charge for usage? That's set by council. Uh and then just, you know, want to wish everybody um a great holiday season coming up. This is our last meeting of
the year, I believe. So, um hopefully we'll everybody will have a safe and healthy uh Christmas holiday. So, Charlotte, just real quick, are those dates mandatory for some of those dates are conflicts? I didn't know about
these four four meeting dates that you just said. They've been sent out to council. We have sent it out in correspondence. It has >> Right. I mean, I got it I got it this week and I looked at it and some of So, so they're workshops, not meetings. >> They're workshops. However, we would
really like to have council input because this is the first strategic plan and this is where your voice needs to be heard. >> Okay. So, if we have meeting conflicts, I mean, I don't I don't know if you need a majority. That's what I'm saying. I know I looked at I've got a couple conflicts possibly >> and it did go out before this week. We sent
>> No, no. I I I saw that, but when I saw it was the first time I saw those four dates and I'm like, "Oh, >> what was that last February date, please?" >> You had the February 3rd for residential and February something for town leadership. >> 18th. >> 18. Thank you.
>> So, the first will be the kickoff session January 6. The second is business and faith-based on January 28th. Then February 3rd is residential and February 18th is the final with town leadership. Thank you. You're welcome. 5:30 to 7:30.
>> Okay. Now, >> um first I want to wish everybody a merry Christmas, happy new year, and uh good fortune in the upcoming year. Um, I have already requested a sleeping bag and pillow for the first meeting in
January because everything seems to be moving forward to that agenda. So, um, and I'm not sleeping between you two. No, I'll be sleeping somewhere else. Um, that was a joke. You can smile. It's
okay. Um, I think just just to get my blood pressure down a little bit. Um, I think people need to understand that when council starts a project,
um, when council starts a project and we we come up with this is what we'd like to do, whether it be police station, pickle ball courts, uh, uh, swing sets and playground equipment and all like that.
Whenever we start a project and we approve it and then oh somebody comes back up and oh no no no we have to no we have to account for this or we have to do this again oh let's start let's start this whole project all over again then
we start it all over again and we go through the same discussion over and over again and I think it's what some of our my fellow council members are talking about we keep going over and over well when these projects start at a particular um professed or or hopeful amount cost
and then we go over and over and over and over them and we end up three years later actually coming pencil to paper. If you're watching everything else that's going on in this country, I don't know how you can be surprised at how
much the cost goes up. And that's the problem. The problem is that we cannot act on what we approve at the time we approve it. And I don't mean at that moment, but let's just say within that 6 months. No, we have to wait two or three
years and go over it again, you know, 45 times and then we approve it and then we look back and wonder why the expense is so much higher. Frankly, I don't wonder. And that's my hope for 2026
is that we can be more efficient if we have something that comes before council and we vote on it legally and we approve it that it is eventually and finally done and we can move forward. And with
that note, happy new year >> Deborah. Well, I have lots of good news. Um, the tree lighting at Journal Plaza was the most exciting and wonderful event. I've been to other tree lightings and I think
ours was the best. So, everybody was so excited and it was the children playing and I just can't even imagine a better night. We didn't have rain which is good and it wasn't bitter cold. I mean, it was just a wonderful event. So, I encourage everybody to go next year if
you can if you're available and can make it there. Um, we just finished up uh last um paddle paddler standing and it went from we actually met a meet and greet uh Friday evening from 8 to 9 and
then the event started at 9:00 on Saturday morning and it just ended now where this is was all night long. They did have to take a break um for two hours for a storm at one point, but it went from nine o'clock all night long,
all day long until about 1:00 today. And there was a chance we wouldn't have a last paddler standing, but we did. He lost by like he didn't make it last year by 35 seconds or 34 seconds. And he was
determined and he he made it and it was really just a wonderful event. People came from everywhere. They came from Sweden. They came from all over. And everybody was so happy with our town. They're so pleased that everybody's so nice. They're so pleased with the the
venue. They love our they love the sunsets. I mean, the people were paddling into the sunset. It gave them encouragement that they could make it another round. Um, every hour they had to do a round. If they got in early, they could rest. But maybe sometimes
like at the end it was like two minutes but sometimes like early on it was like 15 minutes. But I'm just saying these were committed people. But it was just a wonderful event. I they're going to come back next year and they want to maybe include a youth a little small event
maybe just a little small app for youth so we can get the youth involved in our lakes. But I think it highlighted our lakes which we're all very concerned about. I think it's it's worldwide. Um it shows our concern. They were very pleased with that point that we really
care about our legs. And so in the Christmas parade is this Saturday. It starts at 7. So I mean it's the most I think is the best parade in the world. So [laughter] I can't help it. Um but anyway um come out enjoy it and um it's going to be
another wonderful event and I just want to mer say merry Christmas and happy new year. Well, you know, I don't say too much except have a merry Christmas, happy new year, and be safe.
>> Okay. Uh, this will be the only meeting in December, so we won't see anybody till next year. So, like everybody else said, we want everybody to have a very safe and prosperous happy Christmas and New Year.
Uh, hope we see you all at the parade Saturday and uh uh looking forward to 2026 and see what uh what we can get ourselves into next year. So,
if there's nothing else to come before the council,