[Music] good evening it's Wednesday April 16th 2025 at 6 p.m call the Lakeville Board of Health meeting to order is there anyone in the audience recording this i see no
one um Lake Camp is recording this and will be available for viewing at a later date first on the agenda um because of the vote last week um reorganization of
board health members so we have to vote for the chairman second member and third member um and the chairman I don't care i think you were the third and you were the second of the previously maybe next year I'll do it i don't think I want to do it
this year so we'll start with the chairman up here i was going to say cuz I did it i was last and you or two before that cuz it's been like a while since you've been chair yeah I'll do it next year if that's all right next year yeah so when are you two pick you're up
for reelection next year two more years um what's between us how you feel about it i'll stay chairman if you'll that's fine and then if if that's fine by me it'll work out cuz it
was like two in a row right yeah that'll be my cuz you were on it before me i think I I took over last year right yeah i think we both did two years in a row I think too okay so yeah that's fine with me all right then I'll make a motion that we make
Derek Maxum the chairman of the board of health for uh the following year second any discussion all those in favor i I I abstain correct i don't vote yeah you
can't f yourself okay second member so between you two you want to I'll make a motion chris Pratt remains the second member of the board of health for the next for the next year second any
discussion all those in favor i I I abstained okay third member is I make a motion to we make Bob Paluchi the third member of the board of health second any discussion all those in favor
i I abstain okay we reorganize the board we don't need to move anything first on the agenda oh that was first sorry second on the agenda 8 Laurel Street meet with Foresight Engineering to discuss local
upgrade request um they were notified by Foresight Engineering they would want to be available to be here tonight but would like us to discuss it and make a vote because they did not want to continue it um so I guess we have
Ed update on it i believe everything with that believe everything was turned in and yep everything's there um the only um error which um um the engineer
is aware of is the house is labeled as a threebedroom and it's actually a two the assessor has it as two and the the last several title fives have it as a twobedroom as well and even I think the homeowner agreed that it was a two
so there's no um dispute about it it's just was a a clerical error and because of the lot size even though the field's big enough they can't increase it right um well the previous design was threebedroom I think that's why he designed was threebedroom and he just
assumed the house was three-bedroom but he never actually went in the And then when we But I'm saying because the lot's under 10,000 10,000 square ft we can't give them the other one anyway so So we got to stay too and they're asking for a variance to the
well so they don't need all the time and they don't meet nitrogen loading even though they're doing it tonight okay um but the previous plan didn't come to the board back in '95 I believe it was yeah uh cuz the well was proposed at the
time and they drilled it about 15 ft in the wrong spot cuz it was outside the 100 so it's only 85 now so it triggered a variance on this one what was the existing system it was a field pretty much in the same
location i have it here if you'd like to look at it a three-bedroom design but it did say two-bedroom existing on the plan we pulled it out of the file we have a folder we had no asthma for the other for that last one the one before that must have been assessable because there's no saying but like Oh so it
wasn't repaired since assess pool no no there it was a system put in in ' 95 at the field in the same location but the original one probably wasn't cesspool but so that last system was a three-bedroom also that's just I'm trying to clarify yes the one in 95 was designed as a
three no it was a two-bedroom house we There was no meeting minutes didn't come to a board and would not sure why man he just signed off on it yeah and and like I said there was no waiverss because the well was proposed outside the 100 so but
now it's not and then the only thing I saw on this one um obviously they have a well um the Clark's water is one street over I believe yeah um I know in the past on everyone that's come before us that
we've approved with the variance to the well we've had a request that they must tie into Clark Shores water once a water service is stepped onto their property within one year of it being available right um and I talked to the engineer
um foresight on this and um he was aware of that and said that was agreeable to him cuz that's what we've been doing all of them yeah i'm guessing the well is not a deep one no it actually is it's 225 225 ft huh
we have a water test on it already we do um the nitrates were 4.3 which is not great but they are on the five and hopefully with the fast it'll drop it down some it's at um it's actually the back side of the hill so it's pretty much the top of the hill but it actually
is going away from the pond at that point cuz the hill comes up and then like um the last two streets it actually starts to go um slop in the other direction so you're not getting the the other ones at the bottom of the hill are the worst contaminated because you're getting all that coming down
this is sloping back down towards Highland Street on the back side of the hill but the fact that it's you know 20 ft from the peak is not not a lot of septic flowing in that direction and I think they're all flowing towards the pond so I think that might be why it's kind of low i mean not that 4.3 is low
but in this area it's it's okay and he had no notified he's just asking for a variance to his own well yes okay anyone to speak on this one and the owner was not coming so the
owner is not here either um I didn't see any other so it's just a variance for the well and they understand we're going to put a two-bedroom D restriction and we're going to require them to tie into the water within one year do do you want
them to revise the plan or should I just cross out the three and put it two or do you want them to do a new plan good things i think I prefer the revised revised so it's not crossed down it's actually I'll make the motion subject to them
giving you a new plan showing a two-bedroom having that note made if that's all right with everyone i know the lot next door is vacant but I mean we could have moved it right this is the lot's vacant next door they could have moved the field a little bit right to maybe get a little bit more distance but
I mean then you they could ask for variance of the property line five more feet correct probably got with the advanced treatment i think we're splitting hairs probably at that point yeah but I think it you wouldn't you'd still have the waiver instead of 85 ft it might be 90 ft but you're still you're still asking for it
you guys good yeah i'll make a motion we approve the well variance for 8 Laurel Street to 85 ft for the well um we're going to add a two-bedroom gauge
restriction and we're going to require them to tie into the Clark Shores water within one year of it becoming available and the vote is subject to them giving Ed a new plan um what's it showing a two-bedroom
yes showing it's a two-bedroom with that changed second any discussion all those in favor i I Next on the agenda Schools Out Ice Cream LLC 9 Dunham Pond Road Lakeville Mass it
is a new mobile food ice cream truck it uh says pending inspections and they're selling prepackaged ice cream um I see no one here on this one so I'll just turn over to Ed for the update on Yeah it's like I said it's it's just the prepackaged stuff um but
we do have to inspect it just to make sure all the freezers are working properly and things like that is it like a regular ice cream truck or is it like a food truck too uh it's like a school bus that's why they call it school bus you know um they do parties and things like that so um they um they do plan to
do several in in Lakeville I think um so it's not it's not a onetime thing they plan to get it for the year um but they don't know how many they're end up going to be doing but it doesn't I don't think they drive around the neighborhood with a belt they just go to like someone's house or something someone that's hired
them to show up yeah pretty much what's that someone that's hired them to actually show up to their house for a party and they may do um events too um like I think they may do the Conway Farm and and um I think Elliot Farms has they could drive down the street but kids don't go outside and play anymore so they
wouldn't get anybody now would they be able to pull up like at John Pond to someplace and on the road and sell ice cream during a softball game or do they need the town's permission yeah if they're in the parking lot they need the the parks permission to do that any town
property any town property okay well yeah parks definitely need parks permission and I guess if it's another town property I don't um I don't know ted Williams that's parks yeah um yeah I think most of the public places are parks so yeah we need them well I mean you could do it here if the police let
you do it yeah I'm thinking it' be a good opportunity you got the kids softball fields and stuff to to have somebody go over there yeah they may reach out to parks i don't Back in the back in the day like real ice cream trucks used to come in there so do they still have a concession stand at Ted
Williams do they have one over there uh no they have one at Clear Pond clear Pond and then they have the one They're not operating that one anymore no I don't think so we don't inspect there's There's a snack shack out there oh really in the middle of baseball fields been there for a
while yeah we don't they never contacted us about anything i don't I don't know if I don't know if they're operating or not i don't know it depends what they're doing if they're just selling like Coca-Cas and stuff they don't need our permission um so but if they're like cooking hot dogs or something then they would need our permission like in Clare
Pond they cook hot dogs and things like that um so they we actually have to inspect them but like I said if it's all prepackaged and none of it's if it's all shelf stable like although you put a Coke in a fridge it's it's stable on its own so we do not have to inspect those so they could do that there and like
chips and popcorn and all that kind of stuff they can do that okay you guys good yeah i'll make a motion that we approve the food establishment license for Schools Out Ice Cream LLC second append an inspection second
any discussion all those in favor i I All right we're going to have a discussion regarding our schedule of fees the legal ad for the public hearing will be advertised April 17th April 24th and May 1st
um I believe these are posted on our website now currently ed yeah they're on the website and you can come into the office as well and we can give you a sheet either way okay so we will we posted that and put it on tonight's agenda to see if anyone from the town showed up for any input on us raising
those three specific fees um I don't see anyone here to put input have we had anything anybody notify the office no that we're changing the fees there for or against
um we're just getting those three in line with what everybody else is we're not doing nothing crazy right um so we keep this posted for 3 weeks and then we have to post a public hearing yeah that's the tomorrow they'll be
posting the public hearing in the newspaper uh what day would we be having the public hearing uh May 7th okay that was what I was going to bring up on that one um I don't believe I will be here on May 7th so I don't know if we you want a
full thing or we It's fine have you already posted it i mean I think we're all I'm on it yeah yeah you don't have to be here bro i'm just bringing up I I don't think I'll be back in time to get here before 6:00
chris is a second member though so it's going to be a long night and we'll have is this um that before our meeting so that'll be scheduled we have to open the public hearing have it close it open the vote so that'll all be
set up so you're both fine with Yeah i've done one before so I have done one before so you we can spell it out on sheets read out this reading out the sheet okay all right um and we don't have another
meeting before that correct so no yeah we actually have three weeks between uh when the next week's right but not another meeting no so it's 3 weeks okay do we need to do anything on this or was this just for public comment tonight yeah in case anyone wanted to come in but we you've already determined the
prices so um in case anyone wanted to contest it or and they could still contest it at the next the public hearing meeting as well so even the night um on April uh May 7th if someone would like to come in yep because we still have a discussion at
the public before we close it for the vote okay and we could change it that night if we find a reason that we had to yeah okay and again that that we're only changing three um of our fees uh the perk test fee it
was previously $150 um for new and repair now we are leaving it at $150 for a repair and 300 for new um because on a repair you normally only take one or two holes and
pour water in one hole and believe Ed said on the new we do four holes and you have to pour water on two so it's twice the work i mean and that is consistent with uh just about all other towns uh tobacco permits we were at $30
we're going to $75 that's a yearly fee correct Ed once a year it's increasing by $45 and that camps um were the biggest jumped um we were only previously charging $10 for the fee for a camp um
and I believe Ed said there's a quite a bit of work involved with permitting these camps and inspecting them and they're not just local residential ones anymore they're out of town like privately run camps and so that is going
to $150 from $10 and again that is consistent freetown is at 150 gar is at 150 rainham is at 150 um so it's consistent with other towns and that was the only three changes to
our fee schedule so we don't need a vote or anything anybody like to come to the May 7th meeting you have any comment no comment okay next on the agenda review and approve meeting minutes as typed from January 15
2025 all three members were present i read through it and have no issues with the way it was written or typed i'm good too did you say you're good i'll make a motion we approve the meeting minutes
from January 15th 2025 as typed [Music] second second any discussion all those in favor i I
I like I'm looking to the next thing I already read i'm sorry okay next um discuss memo received by the planning uh board regarding quarterly inter interdep departmental
meetings um I I think everybody has this one and they were looking to maybe meet uh quarterly for they're going to meet next week is the first one yeah the that was
on the 24th and they said should I read the whole letter can anybody It was sent to all department heads originally um just a matter of I guess do we want to change so we're just invited
to send a representative to attend if we would like uh or you can do a quorum or um I mean I just think this should be under the selectman if they want to call all the boards together that should be under the selectman's perview not any
one individual board to decide to take take this type of thing on but that's my opinion i mean I I like the idea of it you know cuz sometimes so many times when we're we're like what they say what you know there's different things that
come before different stuff although sometimes it can be tough though too because if there's something that's going before one board we can't go jumping in ahead of it it hasn't come to us yet right which we've we learned with Highland Terrace right right and I'm um I mean normally when you have an agenda
and you post things uh prior to the meeting you're supposed to post what you're talking about um so if anybody would like to come and hear what we were talking about I mean this just seems like it's going to be a random open discussion
um they did give some examples um sharing information topic areas could include SHI inventory chapter 61 property outreach Lakeville Country Club feasibility Route 105 Bridge Street
intersection current plan action items to name a few um but I mean you have to have an agenda like our meetings we just say we could talk about all these things it I I just think that we used to have the Zebra committee that I was on for years and they had a representative of
every department and that got a lot of stuff done we had every department and we had uh somebody from at large it was called that was Bob Mer the attorney who wrote a lot of the middle bro zone and stuff and uh and then we'd all meet we'd
come up with ideas we'd bring it back to the boards get our input and go back everything was televised and it went to town meeting for the people's to vote on but I mean but it was all under the selectman the selectman was the chair the selectman set the meetings it's I
just think if you you know it'd be like us calling all the boards together i I just don't see where that's in our authority i think it should be the selectment if they want to start doing this type of thing but I'm just one vote okay i think on just how vague it
is um I think I'm kind of in the same opinion just I think if they want to discuss a specific one of those items and asked for the board to show up at a meeting like we need your input cuz it involves
the board of health I I'm all for showing up and sitting like we had a couple of meetings on Rocky Wood they asked us to be there or when we were trying to do the open space development and put our input that but I don't know what the
the random and the one-offs are are definitely helpful Um and you guys already have department heads have what weekly meetings correct Ed yeah they do i I don't attend another department it was just because it's just Nate right
um but Nate represents us yeah I know um I guess I get what what the idea is but I don't know if it is quarterly so it wouldn't be like all the time so maybe this time but yeah I don't know i don't understand the leg the legality of it how it's supposed
to be set up that that would be a question for town council or somebody right but and again if you know if all three of us don't go you you just need one member which you can't really speak or discuss with the other two so it's no
you kind of need it on the agenda ahead of time so then we could talk about at a meeting and then bring the ideas there it's there to find out some ideas and then bring them back to the board um and you're really just asking one person's ideas from the board which isn't really
what you should be doing i I don't I I guess maybe I I understand they want to get along with other boards and see what's going on in town but we we do comment on other things like if it goes to the ZBA or planning board
they do give us a chance to comment on it like say okay you know this um doesn't meet this requirement or you're you would have to do this so we we do comment on those plans that go before both planning and zoning um so they do send us probably 2 to 3 weeks in advance we get something and if it's really
concerning I can bring it to you guys you know and I see benefit like certain projects like a representative being there ahead of time like if you're trying to shape something like the OSRD or whatever like the earlier you can like start talking about stuff the the
better right so then it can get out to the boards and talk about stuff after but yeah without a specific thing and and whether we we can set it up that way that would be my question just to and I
think you know if we did entertain doing something I mean I I would recommend I think all board members be there i mean I don't think I don't think you can get anywhere with just one board member i think you need to go and have all three it's the only way you can discuss
and talk i mean isn't that just about a specific I'll make a motion we send the plan and board a letter saying that at this time um the board of health will not be participating but we are open and
welcome to any information they ask or um they request from us and um would honestly prefer that this is under the selectman's perview instead of any individual boards i would just add to that you know just
ask the questions of town council and like how Yeah to make sure it's set up properly so we're covered i mean so everyone's covered you know what I mean so moved i'll add that to my motion okay and I'll second the motion any discussion all those in favor all right
hi so if I understand this one they're not going to do open space anymore so we can start taking it off the agenda right next on the agenda is discuss regarding discussion regarding proposed open space bylaw again it's been continued for probably two months now we've had
meetings on this um but we finally did get the letter sent to us after the last meeting um they're not going to go forward with their right so I'll this one I will just read the letter just I don't know if everybody um it sent it to the planning board and
it reads regarding Rocky Woods which is uh Simmons Hill comprehensive permit i'm writing as the attorney of Simmons Hill LLC in Muhammad Atani in regard to their proposed 40B project located off of Freton Street in Lakeville my client
would like to thank you and the planning board for your sincere efforts to consider an open space residential bylaw specifically for the Freetown site as an alternative to the 40B development unfortunately there were some significant roadblocks in the
proposals that were made by various boards and members of the public that have shown us that it does not appear to be feasible to proceed any further with any potential zoning change proposals most notably it is the requirement that
the proposed bylaw would require a conceptional comprehensive permit plan to establish that the number of lots would not exceed the quantity allowed through a conventional subdivision plan and the requirement that at least one successful perk per percolation test be
performed on every lot i believe my client made it clear from the beginning that this was not a requirement that would be acceptable as such we have informed the zoning board of appeals that we will be continuing with the existing comprehensive permit
40B application and have asked to be scheduled uh at its meeting in May once again we thank the board for its efforts and my client remains open to any suggestions that you may have to improve this project and that was from Bob
attorney Bob Miller um so that takes it off of our agenda they're not going forward um just so anyone watching that's how every other town in the state that does open space does it you get
what you can prove and I thought we bent over backwards saying one park a lot instead of acquiring four so um but it's the regular density not you know not a 40V density so um I wish they would
continue with the real open space bylaw for around the whole town not just for that one property because I think it would get the town a ton of land for free and protect a lot of open space but the way that was drafted I I don't think
it was going to pass through town meeting anyway any comment on that Chris no it's all been said i mean um yes so anybody watching that is still concerned about the Rocky Woods uh
project going forward with 40B I guess just uh look on the agenda for the ZBA zoning board of appeals i'm sure it will be posted ahead of time when they are discussing that project and again I believe that project pretty much will not be coming
to this board anyway because the septic is over 10,000 gallons it will be going to D and they will have a public well that was proposed we don't even know what the water's going to water but yeah we don't even know cuz I've heard they might run the water up into that and
then if they did that then they could put you know multiple septics under 10,000 gallons and so but again that was just a pretty picture we have no idea what is really being considered there that was the other thing with all these proposals they brought there was so we'll wait till see what is proposed
incomplete if it comes to the board of health where we can make any okay so that will be removed from the agenda any longer so we have no vote on that that needed um number eight discuss recent
board of health agent appending items ed I'll turn it over to you and then announcements under nine do you have any announcements or pending items yeah just um well last week we had the um the rabies clinic it was pretty
successful over 115 um dogs and cats vaccinated it was a lousy day but they a lot of people came out so that was good nice um and tomorrow at 1 pm at the COA U Plymouth County Mosquito is doing a presentation on both on ticks and mosquitoes um so it's uh anyone's uh can
go doesn't have to be elderly you know even though it's at the Seaway are they going to are you going to go to that are they going to bring the plan for what they're going to do in the town too i think it's more just on prevention and like like you know having water in your backyard that that try to inform
residents about it but they also like um they're already doing a lot i've seen them several times you know just um both testing um they test for the um the larvae in a lot of the ponds um and things like that um and they are did they did a lot of clearing this winter
as well to get um you know stagnant ponds moving so that it prevents a thing so they've been pretty active uh already so um they may I I don't know their full agenda but um you know I think it's on Well I know in the past few times they specifically was invited the board if
they wanted to come and they talked about what they you know the big overall picture what they were trying to do so I didn't know if this was that type of meeting you know just for the homeowners i I don't actually know but I'm sure there's more tick stuff too with the other diseases picking up pace too um
and the different kinds of ticks that are moving into the area too that carry diseases besides just the deer ticks yeah that's a big concern okay uh one other thing um I'd like to bring up and had just the state had sent
out another list on the ADUs um an updated proposed ADU units um that's something maybe we'll put on the agenda oh definitely yeah to discuss again I won't be at the next meeting of May 7th when we have the
public hearing so I don't know if we want to though you want to wait till Yeah wait till you come Yeah wait till you come back that's important we all should be here okay if we all didn't agree on the fees I would have pushed that off too but I think we all agree
yeah it gives us a chance to read through it too so we can have comments and talk about it in a formal agenda item want to make a Do we need to make a motion to put it on the agenda or you just put it on the put on May 14th agenda discuss the
ADUs just from the state guidance from D and watershed management that's all I have for Chris i'm good motion to adjurnn second all in favor i
I Thank you