[music] Good evening. I'd like to call this meeting of the Community Preservation Committee to order. It is January 15th, 2026 and it is 6:33 p.m. We are meeting this evening at the Lakeville Police Station at 323 Bedford Street. We have
Lake Cam recording and we'll go around the room for attendance. Starting with you, >> Robert Stefanian at large. >> Noel Ruo Parks laser, >> Nancy Aids, Conservation Commission, >> Susan Spiel, member at large, Michelle McKram, Planning Board, Leah Fabian,
housing representative, >> Kathleen Barrick at large, Lyn Mly, open space representative. >> All right. Um, and is anyone else recording for the record? And then we have late cam recording. And the first item on the agenda is review and
possible vote on step two application. Uh so we only got one step two application returned and it was for the uh gravestone repairs at Thompson Hill Cemetery. The third um round of funding for this requested.
Uh we did receive the step two application filled out by Joan. Uh they're looking to repair broken stones and return couple of stones to their foundation. It's a continuation of the effort to have Thompson Hill Cemetery listed on the National Register of
Historic Places. They're looking for $15,000. Uh there's nothing to be sourced from another uh funding source. Um they do have attached I think we've seen
a lot of these already. those of us who've seen the applications previously, a little snippet about um the cemetery itself. Um as well as a map
um the stones to be reset and repaired are in sections A, B, C, and D. These are the older and most fragile stones at Thompson Hill Cemetery. So they started with the table stones, then they moved on to that was the first phase, the table stones. those two large ones that
they rebuilt and put up stand and up and now uh they went on to I think some of the more known historical figures in the area and we saw that those were um restored, repaired, uprighted u with the
last um installment and this installment appears to be continuing on working at repairing those older stones. Um, unfortunately we don't have anyone here from cemetery to speak to it. Miss Lefay usually
um speaks to it, but she's not here this evening. Um, >> I can speak to it for you. >> Do you want to? >> Yeah. Um, I don't know if we talked about the tour we did at the Thompson Hill Cemetery last month or I think it was December. The historical commission
put it on and I spoke I introduced it by speaking about the CPC funds that supported the work in the cemetery. Nancy gave me a little script. Um I can't remember how many people were there. There were quite a few. >> Yeah, there was a good good showing.
>> It was very interesting. >> It was really interesting. They had historical stories about the stones that were uh done and we went to three or four different places in the cemetery and we ended it in one of the Indian
he wasn't buried there but one of the Indian stones Benjamin >> Benjamin something. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Um it was very very good. So they're doing a great job on the gravestones. Um the historical commission, they're very pleased with what they're doing and the cemetery
commission, they're very pleased with what they're doing. >> Excellent. >> So, they plan on doing more of this and then submitting it for the historical register. >> Right. >> Do you know how how much more they're looking to >> I don't? No. >> Okay. >> A lot needs to be done.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I know it's always nice to drive by and see the the sign with the community preservation dollars at work right out in front of it. >> Yeah. I had replaced the sign that was there because it was broken. So, I put the new sign up there and then brought
the old one back to the um DPW building. Okay. >> I fixed it, brought it back. >> Oh, good. Yeah. >> So, anyone have anything they want to add in regards to this project?
>> I think this is really valuable work for the town. People are very interested in it. There's such history there. So, I would support this proposal. >> Right. I think this would only be the second place in Lakeville on the register because we only have one place
so far. So, this is definitely working towards that goal of >> additional places added to the registry. >> Yeah. I mean, the the families that are up there is just amazing. Ben Still, isn't it still was it Indian? >> Yeah. >> Brian shoot did that. Exactly. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Very interesting. I mean it just it talks about the history about Lakeville and it's just some of the streets. I had no idea that these streets were actually named after families and that you know she had the children and Yeah. Yeah. It was it was really it's very educ it's just keeping
our history and it's really important. >> Yeah. >> Maintaining if we can. >> Yeah. And the commission did a lot of work researching these families. They had so much information on the families. >> That's that's so important because you know if it's not documented then it's
lost unfortunately because so many of the older generation it's all stories you know that they pass down if it's not recorded and you know sometimes those are lost. >> Yeah, I think they plan to put a booklet together. Um I I'm sure I'll work with them for the uh 175th anniversary in
2028. >> Be nice. >> Yeah. >> Well, I think they've been successful in the last two rounds. They've actually this company that they're using seems to be amazing. They're utilizing as much of the funds as possible and and trying to
get as you know as much work done with it. >> Seems very reasonable. >> So at this point um any anybody else have any comments, questions? Would someone like to make a recommendation? Would be we need a recommendation to
town meeting um for the CPC for the funding. No one wants to make that. >> I move to approve the step two application and recommend it to town meeting for funding for Thompson Hill Cemetery. >> Total funding requested 15,000.
>> I'll second it. All right, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> All right, and that is approved. So, we'll get that I'll get it over to Andrew. Um I'll um I'll probably put on
our next agenda a little write up for the town meeting like we did la the last couple years. I'll just I'll you know hopefully Nancy will be there and be able to approve it or you know critique however she'd like that to
look. All right. And the next item on the agenda is discuss state matching funds received for 2025. So, in our packet is the print out from um a link from the coalition website. And as you can see, Lakeville is the
second to the bottom. And our match this year was $41,380. So, your dollars gained some interest over the over the year from
back from the state basically. Um, which is which is great. More money into the pot. Um, it looks like the fiscal 24 was 46,000, fiscal 25 was
42,000, and then fiscal 26 was the 41. So, it has dropped a little bit. We know that the receipts were up after the pandemic um when the housing was going crazy and it has slowly kind of trickled down. Um but it's it's still a good
portion considering there's more towns the more towns that join CPA then has to be spread out more so as well. So >> at least it's still bringing a return on their tax dollars. Anybody have anything
to add about that? All right, moving on. Discuss and possible vote on actions to publicize CPC yearly public hearing on February 19th meeting date. So our next meeting will be February 19th and that is the date that we had
discussed as our public hearing date. Last year we had talked about different ways of publicizing how we we want to get the word out about the public hearing. Um, we put on the cable so that it would roll um the article from the
paper. Can probably resurrect the same article from the paper. >> So, >> or similar. >> So, you want So, we got to do the public hearing notice. So, I have that ready to go. >> Okay. >> Um, but then you want to put an article. >> Then we had an article too. Okay.
>> So, do you kind of saying, you know, this is your money, you know, kind of out to the people. This is your money. you really need to come and say how you want it to be used. We want your ideas. Last year we got some really good ideas about recreation and water use and things like that. So, and actually had a
pretty good attendance, >> but I think it's also on the Lakeam Scroll, whatever channel that is, it was on that also. >> How did we get it on there? >> Jose, I believe. >> Okay. >> Through the chair. I don't know if this
is a subject that would be for the communications subcommittee, but I'm waiting to hear about when the first meeting is for that. Would this be appropriate for that? >> Oh, absolutely. I mean, depending on when the meeting is, as long as it's before the >> I'm I'm waiting to hear on that. And
this is exactly the kind of thing that I'd like to see >> publicized. >> Yeah. The news the town newsletter. >> The town newsletter. We have um the town Facebook page. Uh, we've got the news bulletin. So, who's taking what? I do
the I do the paper. I did the paper last year. I'll do the paper this year again. >> All right. I'll do the notice. >> I can talk to Jose too actually about putting on the scroll. >> All right. Um,
if this if communication subcommittee meets and I'll I'll be here. I will certainly bring it up. So now we have a con cal com and now we have a calm cal com. >> Um I mean I have no problem reaching out to Lacy and asking her to blast it on
Facebook and and see if she can put on the website. >> You have a newsletter. >> Oh yes, Facebook newsletter >> senior center. I guess they they're in the loop. Oh, do
we have would need something printed out to put there, I think. >> Well, maybe just the article. >> Yeah, just the article. You just put format that into a poster. >> Yeah. So, the same is putting in the article. >> Okay. >> And you can also use that in the newsletter when I did the letter for uh
open space. She just took the letter and >> Good idea. >> So, I'll just send it I'll email it over >> to Lori. >> To Lori. Okay. Can you email it to the committee so we can send it to people too might know? >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> Do you want me to format it into a poster? She just did the newsletter. I can format it into a poster if you wanted me to. >> And that's for the senior center or >> senior center. We can do it at town hall and I think we did a library too. >> Excellent. Yeah, that'd be great. >> Okay. So, I'll just
>> Okay. So, you'll send it around and we'll all >> Yep. Yep. get it out. So, you'll get it to the library, the senior center town hall. We'll get it on the Facebook, the website, the newsletter. Well, we'll talk about it at the communications. It'll be in the namask.
Any other ideas? >> It's a lot of places. >> It is. >> It is, but it's also it seems like it's a very tough time of year to get people out because it's dark and it's cold, you [laughter] know, >> so you know, >> but we had a good turnout last year and it was in February, too. So
>> yeah, >> you know, you need to really lean on that. This is >> this is your money. So we all we do is approve. So we need to see what the public wants. >> Right. Right. >> Was that scrolling video helpful last
year? Do you want me to revamp that? >> Oh yeah. Refresh to put it up. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> I mean, if we thought it was helpful, great. If you don't >> um we'll just have to let Kim know so that they can be prepared for that. That' be great. Joan Morton will be sending us other
additional pictures of the um museum too that was just renovated so we can put that in the slideshow. >> Oh yeah. So the Did you get the >> I got the emailed ones. >> So you'll be able to use them or do you need them in a different file? >> I can use them but if if there's more I
can add them there. >> Great. All right. Um, so is that everything? That sounds like a lot, right? >> We got it covered. Hopefully. >> All right. Agenda item number four. Discuss and possible vote on warrant language for springtown meeting fiscal
27 budget. Um, I added this to our agenda. Not sure whether or not we get the numbers back in time. And um, this afternoon I did see that Mike Ellis had sent I called him this afternoon and asked him. So he said he would send it right out because
and I also told him that we would probably >> so that he knows in advance that we would can talk about um the administrative expenses >> because we went from what >> 5% down to 3%. But then we were talking
about when we had the housing person come and talk to us to be if um we wanted to >> was it November that I can't remember when >> she came in August. August. >> No. No. But when did she said when she took on new CL new people?
>> Yes. But the town actually missed out the window >> to file for occasionally. The select board wasn't on board. But they are willing to have Shel Shel's going to be at the select board meeting on the 20th on Tuesday. >> Okay. >> At 6:00. So she's going to hopefully give them a
>> I don't know if it's going to be the same presentation we got, but similar an in-depth presentation. So that'll be good. >> Yeah. So, are we going to stay with like the 3% on the
>> I feel as though we might as well like maybe we should do the 5% just in case. >> Okay. >> Because then we have it available just in case. It's it's only 2% more and anything that's not used over the year, it goes back into the fund. >> Um >> Okay.
>> So, the numbers that he gave it is um based off of last year. So, it's still the 3% but we can tell them to up it to the five. Um, and it looks like the projections are at uh 287,000 um total.
And then the 10% buckets are getting 28,700. So, historic community housing, open space, and recreation. Um, oh, and actually it's going to have to
say open space and rec recreation. It just says open space right now. Um, so they'll all get $28,700 this year into the existing bud buckets. Um, and then the remaining looks to be around $192,000.
That'll change when we change it from 3% to 5%. >> 5%. >> Do you have extra copies of that? No, no, I didn't get that. >> Um, it's actually it's right on the back of that one. >> Okay. I not print it. >> Do you have it? >> I printed it from home, so I don't have
it yet. I can watch you. >> There it is. >> Okay. But so so the numbers aren't there cuz I just got I just wrote them down. The [laughter] numbers aren't there because I wrote that >> I wrote them down off of the email. So we have it in our email. We're going to put this on the agenda for next month,
too, so we can review it. >> Okay. and we'll ask him just to change that one 5% the 3% to 5% and then we'll take a vote on it to go to town meeting. Good. So then we'll be good in good shape cuz February
gives us plenty of time cuz they'll open the warrant in March. So we'll be ready to have all those things for the town meeting by next month. That'll be good. All right. So, we won't take a vote tonight, right? We'll put it back on the
agenda. Moving on to number five, old business status updates on approved projects from project liaison. So, I have an update from Joan on the cemetery. She's saying Colonial Stone is preparing an estimate for this year's
project, meaning a future one. Um the goal is to reset as many of the stones that are laying on the ground as possible and to repair at least two granite stones that are in terrible condition. They had thought that the grant Oh, that is for this proposal. Sorry. Okay. Okay. They had thought that
the grant was for 10,000, but we applied for 15, so they are redoing the estimate. The goal is for Thompson Hill to be placed on the National Historic Register. In the past, they have repaired and reset between 30 and 40 stones, including the table stones. So, it's a good go.
>> That's a lot of stones, too. That's good. >> It is. Yeah. >> And I think they were starting with the worst ones. So, hopefully like, >> you know, it it gets easier as they go along, too.
>> And also, she's saying, um, please share with the committee that they're very grateful for the continued support. Okay. [clears throat] We've already we started at 6:30. >> Sorry. >> No, it's okay. Come on in. We're at
We're at agenda item number five. [laughter] >> I think we're >> I just gave a report from Joan in the gravestone. >> Okay. And I also have the a support letter from the history of commission. >> Oh, good. I'm sorry. So, we did get a a motion to approve and
recommend for town meeting. And right now, we're just looking at old business and status updates on um the projects. >> Yeah, >> I can give a report on the museum. Okay. So, uh, we have the invoice for payment
and the commission is very pleased with the work. So, she will send more pictures so you can see what he did, but they're very pleased with it. >> Yeah. So, in our packet, we do have two pictures. I know that it's kind of hard
to see the notes with the print out, but um if you if you can go electronically and scroll in and zoom in on the picture um the far away one, then you can see the difference between how it looked before to how it looks
now. So that's good. So they're they're pleased with that. Any other updates? Kathleen, I did notice I drove by the museum. I think it was last week. That middle part of the sign's gone again.
>> Really? >> Yes. It's just the top you see. >> So strange. I was going to stop and and pull the sign, but I figured it was really cold. I might not be able to get it out of the ground, so I just left it. But yeah, it's gone. >> That's odd.
>> Yeah. >> The same piece missing as it was last time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It almost feels purposeful. That's >> That's what I'm wondering. >> It does. >> You think it's too close to the road that snow's hitting it when the plows go and it's just knocking out? >> I think it was after a storm. I go by
there every day. Yeah. I'm trying to think what type of storms, >> but what time of year was it missing the last time? >> I thought it was fall. >> I don't remember last time it was >> No, I mean, December was very windy, so >> it was in the in the fall.
>> I think it was a big room. >> But we also have another one out at Thompson Hill Cemetery, which is pretty exposed. That's on a hill, too. >> And this way against the road where where the other one is. >> You know what I'm saying? ties out ve
very secure though. >> So that's strange. >> It is that it's breaking. It's being blown away. >> When I looked I couldn't see it anywhere when I drove by. >> Wow. >> H
guess we can see. >> They're being cut. >> Is that the museum? >> Yeah. >> The bottom section. >> It was there a week ago, wasn't it? >> There's no cameras on that. >> The bottom section. >> Oh, the sec the little thing. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Last time it was the big thing that
>> Yeah, it's the big thing. >> The big thing is missing. Yeah, I drove by it, too. >> It's the big thing. >> The big the big >> Oh, the big one is the big >> spot that's missing again like it was the last time. >> Somebody's acquiring them for wallpaper. [laughter] >> A little squirrel.
>> Weird. >> Yeah. I wonder if would somebody have a camera over there like across the street? >> I thought I saw it. Um when did you notice it was missing? >> Oh my god. Was it last week maybe? Oh, say I was there before that and it was there.
>> Do we have signs anywhere else in town? >> No, just I think it was last Friday. >> It's been windy. We've had winds. >> But they it was zip tied to it the last time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> That's the That's strange. >> Something to watch. And if if you're friendly with any of the neighbors over there, maybe see if they have a camera and see if you can determine was it blown away? >> You don't have a camera? >> Oh, you don't think anyone nearby >> would have that angle?
>> They don't. There's no mailbox here. >> Anyone across the street is across the street with >> the butters the woodland angle. That's a shame because then we have to pay to replace them, >> right? >> Get another one.
>> Well, maybe we just How many extras do we have? >> One that I know of. >> Let me just wait. >> Yeah, since the project is done, I'll take the sign down. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Maybe that'll solve the problem if
it's not going to be up there anymore. >> All right. Um, so we have the status. We have some photos. She'll be sending over some more photos. Um, any other photos from the Yeah. So, we don't have any new photos from the cemetery. I already posted all of those.
So, really just this one project. I'll post these to the CPC page like I did with the other ones. I'll probably wait and see if she sends other ones first before I post these. >> Yeah, I have some photos from the Greystone. Let me see if the gravestones.
>> I do I did post a number of those. >> Okay. Okay. >> We have Okay. >> Yep. So, I we do have the gravestones, but I don't have the Koopa yet. So, I'll do those. But if Joan's going to send more, I'll wait and see what she sends. Okay. [clears throat] >> Put the better of them and do like a
before and after. And then, uh, we do have an invoice. Review and possible vote on invoice for historical museum roof repairs. Um, so this is the invoice for the
restoration of the Bell Koopa at the Lakeville Historical Mu Museum. They had a to lift a lift rental for two weeks. Uh remove eight shutters for restoration offsite. Repair replace louvers. Prime and paint to match
existing. Two coats. Reinstall. Repaired rotted and damaged wood trim boards at base of shutters. Carry out Dutchman and epoxy repairs as required to all water damaged wood. Repair and seal flashing between Koopa and clapboard base. Seal
and prime repaired wood and Koopa flashing. And we have additional cost. Oh, so they did add on additional cost to continued water damage at Koopa shutter sills. Replaced all all rotted sills and frames. Add
copper flashing to sills. And it did say based on our inspection, the asphalt shingles and flashing seem to be intact. The estimate covers repair of Koopa only. Replacing of roof is not included. So it did come a little higher
than they expected. It's 28,800 total and they had requested 20,000 from CPA funds and then they were going to get another five grand from somewhere else. But when I asked Joan about it because Sue pointed, oh this is more. Um she
said that they they expect to cover it. >> I think it was the time element too. The original quote was a couple of years before preach prior to that. >> Yeah. Which is unfortunate because I think we were just wait or the town the society was just waiting for good
weather I think for a lot of it. >> All right. But would someone like to make a motion to um pay 20,000 towards this? >> So moved. >> All right. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? I
>> um any opposed? >> No. >> Okay. All in favor? [laughter] Um Nancy, y >> you're going to get this one paid? >> Yep. >> Um do you want >> 20,000? >> Do you want me to send over the grant agreement? I think they need >> uh the grant agreement in order to Okay.
>> So, I'll just email it to you, Mike, and Andrew. Okay. All right. Review and possible vote on meeting minutes for October 16, 2025.
Does anyone have any edits? question on this, but I did have a question. Sure. Um, I'm pretty sure at the meeting, because I wasn't at the meeting, um, it was discussed about the engagements
and the exemptions. Do we know how many folks actually apply for the exemption? That was I don't think we ever got those numbers because when I was talking to Mike about it, he was
told, you know, he was talking to the different people and so and so thought so and so was supposed to do it and so and so was so it just they were like they weren't nobody was taking responsibility for keeping track of those numbers. Okay. So,
>> but in the past we knew that Todd Todd did it in the past. >> In the past, we did it. So, they the numbers were not readily available. Somebody had first said, "Oh, it's going to take forever to get it." But then Nancy worked with Todd and Todd was able to >> The exemption has to go through the
assessor's office if you file the >> But that's where I went and I didn't get any help. So, I went to Todd and he came up with the numbers and said he was going to keep track of it going forward. So, I don't know what Mike has said
recently. I haven't talked to him about it recently. Well, >> yeah. And I think we had left it at he was going to check to see and then I I don't think I've followed up, but I can definitely follow up. >> Yeah, cuz the original thing at the assessor's office, they had told me that
would take hundreds of hours and we're not doing it. So I that's why I went upstairs to Todd and said, "We really kind of would like to >> I mean >> know these numbers. >> They've got to know how many applications they got." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right.
>> Well, I work with the senior center to I volunteer at the senior center to help them fill out their This will be the what third year I'll be doing that to help them fill out their exemptions. So I know what comes from there. I don't know what they get from anywhere else. But you're right. There's going to be like a cut off date too by when to
apply. So I would think that maybe we don't have the exact dollar figure, but we would know at least how many. Right. Right. >> Yeah. Well, thank you for that question, Leah. We will see if we can get those.
>> I'll try again. Try try again. >> Yeah. I think I think I got all of the appendices done except for that one and I just didn't have the numbers. I mean, I can I can help you out with that, Michelle, too. >> Oh, that'd be great. >> Yeah, pretty familiar with the
assessor's office. >> Okay. So, do we need a motion to accept the minutes of October 16th, 2025? >> We do. >> I make a motion to accept the minutes [laughter] of October 16, 2025.
>> Second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? >> I I abstain. >> I abstain. >> All right. >> Oh, who else? >> Leah. >> Oh, okay. >> All right.
Um, agenda item number seven, introduction of new members and reorganization. So, welcome, Leah. >> Thank you. >> Nice to have you with us. >> Nice to be here. >> Um, so you're filling the housing seat. >> Yep.
>> And with your background and history, I'm sure that's going to be very helpful. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> If you'd like to say something. >> Um, no. I just uh what I had put I don't know you know if my letter was read but I know that you and I had talked about
CPA and how it had tried to pass a couple times before and I think this was going back to January of 22 or something or 21 maybe 21 >> I think it was 2005 and then 12 >> or something like that. So we were, you
know, and I mean at the time I was, you know, a selectman, so, you know, I couldn't participate on the committee, whatever. So now that I'm not a select board member anymore, I feel like it's come full circle for me because it's something that I, you know, really feel
um is important and it's worthwhile. So yeah, it's nice to be here. >> Yes, absolutely. I think Yeah, we were talking about one of the larger parcels in town and you talked about CPA and then >> Yep. I mentioned it to Sue and Sue mentions it to other people and I know
Amarie and then there was like a nice grassroots effort and and yeah as a select board member you can't participate so now you can. >> Yep. But I I mean, as a select board member, it was nice knowing that it was wellreceived by the voters in town and
um you know, it's uh you can you can see that folks are interested in preserving the history and you know, but um as a select board member, I did sit on a lot of the housing committees, the Taton Housing Consortium, I worked with Middle Housing
Authority on some of the 40B um lottery processes, participated in so many state level housing um you know so I feel like that's a good place for my focus >> you know
>> yep >> it would be great if we can get this affordable housing trust appointed if the select board would do that and then we could work with or the town I say we I don't mean this committee but town could work with um Shelley Goring the mass housing partner um partnership and
>> and I think you'd like a great representative of this committee if you were you know appointed to that as well to we had talked about keeping >> um you know >> well we have affordable >> and it doesn't go away >> y
>> but one of the members of this committee to keep >> sort of the um communication the line of communication between this committee and the housing and all that because the main source of funding for housing >> trust is you know typically the CPA
funds, housing portion. >> But yeah, instead of having a developer come in and apply for CPA funds, I we know that residents want to see their funds used to maintain the existing units. That's that was a big part of the feedback we got. >> Yeah.
>> Speaking of the people about CPA, >> so welcome. And Lynn, I know you're one of our newer members and >> I've been here a bit. Yes. you you've been for [laughter] a few meetings, but we haven't had a full board, so we haven't really organized yet. >> Yeah, Lyn Morton from the open space. You know, I'm learning. It's all I
really can say. But yeah, um you know, it's actually I really enjoy being on this committee. So, >> yeah, just trying to figure out how it works. And like I said in the planning board, you know, if we do see a piece of property, how do we purchase it? Like the uh Powdery Meadows, that's
beautiful. That would be so wonderful for community gardens. But you know they said no. Right. >> So I think yeah it >> the thing is open so open space would have to work with the select board
>> right [clears throat] >> for that purpose. But if it's for a purchase of open space we can accept an application out of the typical application time frame for something like that for a purchase of open space.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think what you said, you know, saving these funds for land is very important, you know, and you said it the last time. >> Yeah. Well, that was the feedback we got from residents. Like I think the majority of people voting for CPA, that was >> Yeah.
>> the main goal. I think the thing that most resounded with people was, you know, maintaining open space >> was acuring that amount of money. >> Right. Exactly. And that's >> that's what she was saying. Don't spend Yeah. >> Like some communities have had CPC for a
long many years and have a cop that they could draw on. >> Yeah. And big bigger cities have like millions of dollars. We get about 200,000 right in the bucket a year. And that's going to take a long time because, you know, we we can only spend historic funds on historic and only
spend um housing funds on housing and and parks has been utilizing the um open space and recreation funds. And that's, you know, I think my my I've been vocal about not wanting to touch the bigger balance to see that grow.
>> That's what I think it should be. I mean, we don't have one and a half million. That's what they want for us. >> Right. [laughter] Right. >> But this also you can bond against it. >> You can bond against it. So that means we could bond against f future CPA funds and that would be a vote of this
committee to bring that to town meeting. >> Um, >> right. That was process. When was the last time we asked Mike or was it Erica? She said we could bond up to was it 3 million? >> It was it was between 3 to 5 million
>> because it's it's based off of the town's capacity and it takes into uh account all of the other open um line items, you know, >> right? Everything that's open, >> all the other leases. >> Yeah.
Um, so it was it was 3 to 5 million and that was over Oh gosh, I don't remember. >> I think it was I think we got a a 10 and 15 year um >> yeah, I think it showed what would it be
at 10 years and 15 years and how much you know it would cost or how much Yeah. on a year yearly basis. I think that David brought it to the select board and they said they weren't interested. >> Yeah.
>> So that was for a specific >> for Yeah. Ply metals. Yeah. >> But >> it's a it's disappointing because so now that you have an open space plan completed, which it was a long time coming, >> you can apply for park grant, but the
problem is that went from I think it was 750,000 down to like 450,000. Um, so there's P A RC, that's a park grant. There's other grants that are associated with open space, but once again, you'd have to apply
during the open window, and then you usually have to have a project ready to go. Um, >> yeah. And a lot of the open space purchases that get made in other communities aren't even though they have a lot of money isn't just from they're
pulling in from >> other >> all kinds of [clears throat] they get four or five different areas that um >> can fund it. Yeah. Mhm. Now, if open space is interested in property, they have to go to the select
board and the select board has to approve it or can they just put a step one application in themselves? So, all assets like land are up to the select board. But that one is interesting because
there's even though it's 61A, I think >> Mhm. If they don't change the usage, then it doesn't trigger a right of refusal. >> So, I'm not sure what all the details are in there.
>> So, now what about if conservation because conservation can take land as well, the conservation committee? >> Well, it would be under there. We don't have money to >> But no, I'm just saying like So is the select if it does the select board still
have to approve it if it's conservation. >> I think the select board has to way. Yeah, because they're the ones that would >> if any debt has to go to the town even if it's a small portion >> that all the assets are controlled by
the actual like select board. So >> they would have to approve. >> That's the only And you explained so it's for sale right now. So somebody you know does 61A there's no obviously it's fine
>> right there's no change of use >> but >> but if they propose that it's not going to be 61A then we have first right of um pusal right >> and then there's there's still the money that you'd have to come up with if it's has to have a if you're going to do that
and you're going to use any CPA money it has to be under a conservation restriction and that is costly like to put some to put and then you have to find somebody to hold a conservation >> restriction >> restriction and who's going to manage it. That's why we work with Wildlands Trust a lot but then they want an
endowment so that they can watch it >> because like we've said before like our 600 acres up on Howland Road, it's like we got that but we end up having to sell it to the state because we couldn't watch 600 acres. People were going in there and cutting cords of wood and stealing
>> the stuff. We just don't have that capability of watching really large pieces of land. You know, even the bigger, we have a hard time and that's under conservation and we have a hard time. We don't really have any funding to watch it or like >> right
>> when we talked about it open space. >> So that that's there's a lot more >> to it >> to it. Yeah. [clears throat] Plus, it's up to those other organizations whether they a lot of times they value land that abotss other
natural corridors and you know so if they see no >> um >> I think he did approach I can't remember who this mass I don't know who abutz it but it was somebody I think he did approach them and they said no. >> Yeah.
>> I'm not sure who it is that abutz but I don't remember what he said. Yeah. And they said no, they weren't interested, which we thought was funny, you know. I know. But so >> yeah, we had 27 like beautiful acres up off of 44. Our two last cold water trout
streams left in Lakeville. We had to beg and gravel >> to get that wildland trust to. And it's because they had some other property nearby that they wanted. That's how they look at it now. They don't want a piece over here and a piece over there. They want to continue. Yeah.
Oh well, >> oh welcome. >> No community gardens here. Um, and well, we have reorganization. And so right now, like I actually asked Andrew about a laptop because I I have a
laptop, a town laptop that I've been using mainly for CPC purposes and it's on its last legs. And ideally we could have a laptop that travels with whoever his chair and has all the files because
right now so um in speaking with Chris Blanca he's looking into a cloud based sharing system which would be ideal because right now I can't put anything into the shared file electronically and we don't have any hard copies in town. So it's very
important that you know we have something that's not just you know um saving the files but something that enables it so that someone else can take over as chair too and basically take that laptop and so that's my goal. Um
Andrew had reached out to Bob. He said that because my first thought was how much money and we would bring it to the committee and see if we could take some administrative funds and get a laptop. >> I was going to say >> which >> which we could we could do. Andrew said that there may be some available.
So, he was going to ask Bob and I didn't see that Bob has responded yet, but that would be my goal is to get everything on that on it because right now >> I think if it the other one's dying, then I think we need an answer sooner than later. >> Yeah. >> Right. Well, I have I have put it on
thumb thumb drive, but I just don't trust those very right. Very well. Yeah. So, >> so they either have some money in the budget that we can get one or we can >> So, I think it sounds like there's there may be a laptop in town. >> Okay.
>> That's available. So, I'm waiting to hear. >> Okay. >> That's that's my hope is to get all the files on there. >> I mean, if it's a laptop that they're repurposing, I I don't see why we should have to pay anything for it,
>> honestly. >> Right. That would be the hope instead of paying Brian a new one if there's something available. >> Definitely. >> It takes Windows 11. >> So, um, so I've been chair. >> Will I make a motion that you continue
to be chair? [laughter] >> Second. >> And then a second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> So Bob's gone. So there's no >> John. John, we don't have a vice chair. >> Um, so we do need a vice chair. So,
anyone who's interested and >> um, >> Nancy has backed you up. >> I know, but she's also she's been good at being treasurer though, right? >> Yeah. I like being the treasur, paying the bills. [laughter] >> And Sue, I mean, I know >> I like being secretary.
>> Yeah, we've asked her before, too. I don't know. >> So, right now, Nancy, you're the treasurer. >> And Sue is secretary. >> So, Sue takes the minutes. Nancy pays the bills. Kathleen does our CP3 reporting because um that's the one. So
there's a CP1, CP2, and a CP3. And that the committee is only responsible for the CP3. >> So she works with Nancy and Mike now to get that done in September. So, okay. I don't know if anyone else is
interested in chair [laughter] or Leah, I know you >> I feel [laughter] like I don't know enough yet to be a vice chair. >> Um, but >> I don't know who does any volunteers. >> I have no interest in
>> Do we have to have one? I mean, I don't mind running the meetings when you're not here. You know that. >> Here we go. >> You know, I really don't. But I don't want to be vice chair because I'm treasurer. So, but do we need to have a >> a vice chair? Who says we need one?
>> Well, in case. So, like So, >> yeah. You're not here to run the meeting. That's We've been doing that without me being right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let's do that. If that works, everybody else then. So, >> yeah. Unless you find out >> I I say we make formalize NY's title as
vice chair and treasur. >> Okay. >> I move [laughter] that. >> Does that work? Unless you want to give up treasure. >> Kathleen, you want to take on treasure? >> I can do, right? The only time I'd have to do it is just to run the meeting if you're not here, right? Because you do everything else basically, right?
>> Yeah. >> And if you need help, then I'll help you with something. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Unless Leah wants to take on treasurer. [laughter] >> All right. So, Nancy will So, you want to make the motion? >> I'll make that motion. >> I did.
>> He made Okay. So, made the motion. I'll second it. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> All right. So, Nancy is the vice chair. >> Treasure. >> I don't know if that's an option on the town. I was going to [laughter] say find out it can't be that way. We'll just
change with the next one. >> Right. >> Okay. Um and our next meeting date is February 19th, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. That will be our public hearing. We'll have a few other things. hopefully get everything set for town meeting.
>> I'll get that article out early next week so that everybody has it and get myself in line for the paper cuz sometimes they're like, "Oh, well, our it's full." So, I'll make sure that we >> run twice. Try to get it to run twice. >> Great. >> All right.
>> So, if nothing else, does someone want a motion to adjurnn? >> So, move. >> Who was that? >> Motion. Nancy. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? >> I meeting is adjourned.