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Good evening and welcome to the April 16, 2026 meeting of the Community Preservation Committee. It is 6:30 p.m. and we are meeting this evening at the Lakeville Council on Aging at One Deer Crossing. We have Lake Cam recording this evening and uh let's quickly do

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attendance. We do have we had a little bit of a change. >> Nancy Yates representing Lakeville Conservation Commission. >> Robert Stfanian member at large. >> Kathleen Barrack member at large. >> Lyn Moley represented open space. Michelle McKron planning board. >> Susan Spieler member at large.

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>> Nancy Leave historical commission. Noel leaders under parks. >> So once again we are without our housing seat. I did email the select board to let them know that that needs to be advertised again. Um, is anyone else recording? Hearing none, the first item on our

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agenda is review and possible vote on edits to community preservation plan. So, in our packet, we have a cleaned up version of the plan that we all went over the last meeting. I took off the draft, made all those edits, um, checked

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the page numbers, and the only thing that it's missing once again would be the appendices that need to have the data from the close of the fiscal year. Uh, last year we approved the plan pending the appendix

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updates in September. So, if anyone has any edits further to make, we can do that. Or I'd entertain a motion to approve the plan um pending the

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um edits to the appendix in September. >> I'll second that. >> Well, do you want to make the motion? >> I'll make a motion that we accept the this with the appendices.

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I >> second. >> We have a motion and a second. All in favor? >> I >> I. Any opposed? >> All right. >> Um, so the community preservation plan for 2627

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is approved. I'll get that up on the website. I'll update the um the application as well because we did make some changes to the step one application. Um, and just a note on that, uh, the

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town's changing website, the website over. So, um, last time I was in the office, Emily said that either I could maintain utilization of the CPC page, like I'd have to go in and do some training, or

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if we want, it can go through her. So, any updates or changes to the web page can just go through her, which I I think is probably makes the most sense. So we don't when the chair changes it doesn't have to be access granted and we can just send everything through Emily >> to be updated to the web page. But I'm

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going to do it I'll make any changes up until I can't until they tell me that it's you know switched over or whatnot. But yeah. All right. Uh agenda item number two review and possible vote exterior permanent signage place cards

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Thompson Hill Cemetery. So, at our last meeting, we discussed permanent signage and when I started searching because we actually had a print out with all the different sign options that we had looked at a while back. That actually came right off the coalition website.

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When I went looking though, I saw in my email that between Sue and Nancy Lay, there is actually already discussion about the sign. So, we already had it. I think I I had forgotten. It was a year and a half ago, though. So, it had been a while ago. It was a while.

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>> Yeah. So, we we had forgotten that we had had like um Nancy, you even brought language from the commission. >> Uh Sue, you had gone you I think you asked >> I think this came from Joan. Joan. Yeah. Joan was the one that told me about this company that they use. Yeah.

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So, I think when when do we want to ask that this is included on Thompson Hill Cemetery is the question because did we want to include the years from this time till this time? >> We don't want them to have three signs, >> right? >> Yeah.

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>> Do we wait till the end? How do we know it's the final chapter? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. This year is supposed to be all the broken stones that we picked up unless he found something after that 3 ft of snow >> that we had.

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>> I would think it would be an ongoing project. >> Yeah. Can we just add the word ongoing to this before restoration maybe? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think ongoing. >> Yeah. The ongoing restoration that leaves it open.

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And I don't guess I don't remember back that long ago about the wording of through community preservation funding. Should it say the act or just community preservation funding? >> Why not?

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The last thing is how long before we get how long down the road is it before we apply for historic get on the register. We have to there's some things we have to do at the commission level for >> is that years >> at least probably maybe two years.

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>> Okay. All right. This is too bad. >> Well, >> that that can't be added as Yahoo. Thanks to the Community Preservation Act, we now got his are on the historical register. >> Well, it will be done most likely before

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the anniversary. >> Maybe ready for the anniversary in 2028 >> because that's a big deal. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it is. >> And it would probably be nice to have the sign on there for if people go out for the event.

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>> Yeah. So, we're meeting in May. We're going to be meeting 17 meeting in May. to talk about some more events. >> Do you want to bring this to the commission and just ask that maybe >> I don't think the commission would

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object to this type of signage. It's kind of simple and >> complete. >> It happens. It names the cemetery commission because they're the one in charge of the Thompson Hill. And that would be just the thing that would change with every site that we

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have that we've been working on or something. So, well, I guess my question is, >> so this would be the same for all the all the projects that have been completed, >> but when would when would we want to target for this to be

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ordered and placed? I guess >> it's one of those first time things again that we're trying to figure out, >> right through the chair. Is it It's black with white. >> Is that correct? I thought it was metal. >> It says green in the title.

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>> Green. >> Green reverse. >> Okay, that is >> that sounds prettier. >> Oh, green river. Yeah. >> Is the sign aluminum? >> I believe so.

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Rest. >> So, with each site after >> Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. It says standard aluminum on the back. rust proof aluminum. Yeah, >> I think it's a low enough cost, too. Like we could get it now and if we want decide to update it, if they hit the

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National Register, then >> we can update it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> That would be a whole different different sign, too. A National Historic Register is a standalone sign. I mean, it's it doesn't >> doesn't share space with anybody but themselves. >> Yeah. Because it's all unique.

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>> Yeah. >> Would they go next to each other? >> They might. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So maybe at that point we look at one that matches or is of similar something like that >> depend on the cemetery commission because >> they're the ones that are in charge of that property too.

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>> So do we want to wait to see what they assigned their activities but not we're not a deciding issue on that's their venue. >> Well so I think we talked about doing green because it represents community preservation. We've used the green for

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like the signs all along the temporary signs, the R signs to adopt it. So I I don't know if it has to match like a deep hunter green. Nancy, my thing is that people really

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need to know that we're doing something outstanding like that because when I was helping the seniors fill out their exemptions, one lady called me on the phone and she wanted help and she said, "By the way, what do you do?" And I just

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happened to have my folder there. So, I told her I just rattled it off because I had something in front of me. If I hadn't, I probably wouldn't have been able to. And by the time I was done, she goes, "I'm not even putting this in. This is wonderful. You can have my >> whatever it was, x amount of dollars."

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>> Yeah. >> You know, because it sounds like some good things are being done. So, and that's somebody that's looking for an exemption and doesn't even know what we do. So, I mean, how many people out there don't know what we do, right? you know, and that I think being on the historical register with the anniversary

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coming up, I mean, that's like a big thing that maybe a lot of people will get it. >> And sometimes it isn't the fact that we we need the time to get the application in, which we do, but it's also how long it takes them to do it, the National Historic Registry Group. Yeah.

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>> But like Bob said, we could always change it up after that because, you know, >> I don't think it's irresponsible to spend $65. three years, three or four years before this comes through. >> So, and >> come out of the publicity account. >> So, last year we started with the

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Thompson Hill as a walking tour and we talked about families and their contribution and the unique structures of the cemetery and the stones and what do you see when you look, what does this tell you about the family and things like that, which gives me goosebumps. But um

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>> we're also like we're planning to do at least two events this year and then with three then we'll be or two or three this year and then we'll start right away in January doing things for that year because it's a whole year that we really celebrate.

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>> So we do we might be able to get it in. >> So what about the sign? Do you think we can order a sign and put it up this year? >> You can put it up anytime. Yeah, I think something adding. >> I don't think it matters when it comes up ongoing. >> Yeah,

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>> I would recommend a very strong pole that it's on. >> Well, so I thought that it was going to go on the the rails. No. >> Yeah. Or >> on the front. >> It depends the 24 by 18. So it's 18 24 this way, 18 this

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way. The gr There are granite posts there. Um, so usually like for instance, if you know to the right of the historic townhouse town hall, the garden club put in a granite and

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iron fence and we have a plaque there which is the dimensions of the granite post that says the Gut Lakeville Garden Club did this in a certain year. >> But now that was like >> a long time ago, >> but that is bronze. That was a bronze

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>> and that's right on the >> in middle too. >> So you could put it on the fence. >> Sorry. >> Yeah, this wouldn't be as substantial as brass. >> And the other thing is that this was done a long time ago and that's the only

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thing that you could do because they didn't have the ability to make something nice that was a >> more simple. >> Yeah. >> Right. I mean, all the signage was nice, but I mean, they just didn't have the ability to do what we're thinking of doing here.

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>> I just worry about damage of the sign. >> Well, I mean, >> which >> if somebody wants to remove something, they'll do it, >> they will find a way to do it. And I, as much as we like to be >> protective of everything, we can't

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>> really do that, >> right? >> Unless we have bells and whistles and stuff like that. And even then we might it might not work. Even the World War I memorial stone, the plaque in Dickin Duran Square, that was stolen when they

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like within I think less than 30 days after it was dedicated. They had to have it cast again. >> Wow. Wow. >> So I mean it's a shame that >> you know people think they have a right or they think it's a hoop to do it or something like that, you know. So, if

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this sign is 24 by8, did you say so? >> I'm just using the garden club um post as an example, but this would be standardized because you'd want this to be everybody would get this like for instance, this will go on the museum

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with different wording. Are we going to have the same type of plaque every place? >> So, I thought we talked about depending on the project, >> right? Yeah, >> it would be different >> cuz so say if so for example just looking at parks you know if there was something done in parks they have a wooden sign so maybe we would include

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something on a wooden you know what I mean a wooden sign to match >> okay >> I think we talked about project specific and that's what it's >> you want to have at least the color and the printing to be similar >> same for everybody regardless of how it's mounted or or if it has to be a

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different size or something like that. >> Just want to make it so that people can read it. Mhm. >> So I guess my question is would this fit between the rails? >> We have to talk to the cemetery commission >> to the what

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>> cemetery commission. Yeah. >> So >> I will pass this on to a member of the historical commission who's used to be on that and she has contact. >> So it'll be shown. >> She's the one that applied for the grant and everything for them, >> right? >> And we supported it. So I she's a I

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don't want to say what she's doing right now, but anyways. Um, I will show this to her on Monday. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Should we take NY's suggestion and just put in community preservation act funding? >> Yeah. Do you want to note that Nancy? Maybe just like we said ongoing

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restoration. >> I think ongoing is good supporting the ongoing restoration. And that way when Joan sees it, she can understand. >> How however we represent ourselves, this group, it would be consensus, I think.

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Yeah. >> Do you think we should add the word act? >> I think so. >> You do? >> I don't know if I do. I think the funding is good because the act, >> it isn't the act that's paying for it. >> It's the funding. >> It's the funding. >> Right. Right. >> I mean, it's just my opinion. I

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>> But it still says funding. But we got people, you got people all out to vote for the Community Preservation Act at town at the polls, >> right? And the thing that I think of is CPA. If people want to see that CPA, >> right, those are the only thing.

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>> Yeah. Act still put the funding in there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I think those two words ongoing and act could be I mean it's 24 by 18. It seems like it would fit it >> for the historic um it will fit.

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plaque. It wouldn't be ongoing. It was a one-time deal. But this this has been something that >> this is the third going. >> Yeah. >> So, you'll get this over to Joan. She'll bring it to cemetery. Is she still on

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cemetery? >> Um, she does. She doesn't have funds. >> So, cemetery will she's not a commissioner. Cemetery commission act funds. So cemetery will look >> sorry >> and they'll um >> I think it's act funds not funding. >> No

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>> community present act funds. >> Yeah >> that that's a good points. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Once you change it it's I think you >> Okay. So three changes to that. >> Yep. >> All right. So cemetery commission

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they'll look at this. they'll approve it, let us know where it can go, >> where we can go >> and site should be one highly visible. So, it has to be near one of the entrances, >> right? Um, >> and it has to be Thompson, not Precinct Cemetery, which is the to the left.

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>> And that's a much newer cemetery. >> Um, so I'll push this out to our next month's agenda or >> Yeah, I would say in May. >> May. Okay. All right. And then maybe we'll discuss ordering it at that time. So,

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uh, anything else on the signage for now? I know you said mentioned the Koopa, but will >> Yeah. And the other thing is how does this get paid for? >> So, that's the thing. So, with Thompson Hill, obviously, they have the ongoing

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projects. they could take it out of their their budget, you know, the the bucket signed >> because each time we have never used the full amount that we were appropriated because of the fact that um of how how

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he puts the bids in to to do the things, >> but with the um the Koopa, it was the full amount, >> right? And it's already paid and closed out. So I I mean I guess at this point we'd have to pay out of the the administrative,

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>> but we just that's one more thing that hopefully we capture on the application going forward. >> Right. And the question is how much are these going to cost because they're all single. I mean they're the basic wording but there's going to be change on every single one. >> Well it shows right here that this one

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is what? Six. So one is 64.95 each. 5 is 57. So it gets cheaper the more that you order, but obviously they're going to be individually. >> Yeah. >> What is the 125?

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>> So So 64.95, >> which is not bad, >> but I guess we want to just make sure with the society, are they okay with the same sign? >> Yeah. >> And maybe next week. >> Oh, okay. >> And where to put it, too.

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Um, I assume it would be on the building either the to one side or the other of the door. Probably to the left of the door. >> There's another plaque, but I think it that one's inside about the

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building is given. >> Okay. So, I'll put this back on for May. And moving on to agenda item number three, review and possible vote newsletter ideas for sharing CPA information. Um Lynn, you had asked that we discuss this last time and I thought

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it was a good idea so we can discuss. >> Um >> well, I just uh I don't know if we want to publicize ourselves right now. Maybe after July. >> Well, I don't know. >> True. >> Why? Because they can take they can vote it off. So we wouldn't be having it

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anymore. with the budget restraints, everything going on right now, I just don't think we want to put ourselves out there as like, okay, here we're buying this stuff for you, you know? I mean, I just don't think right now is the right place and time. I I mean, I just that's how I feel just because, you know,

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reading all those overrides and, you know, I don't know. I don't know that right now is the right time. >> We can still we can still discuss, you know, what do you want to see on a news? Like, do we want to go through the Namask? Do we want to do something? Is there anything else that we want to try?

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>> Well, we want to definitely publicize what we've done. You know, that's something, you know, this is where your money is going. And I had a I had uh at that meeting we went to uh No, I went out to and actually she was there too. So, uh you know, I had some good language. They get you really pumped up

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CP, you know, we went to that meeting. So, I had some great language for what we are doing. But definitely you put, you know, to put what we're doing out there so they know what we're doing. uh you know what we can so for instance they talked about the mats at the park you know and that's just emphasizing

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what qualifies a little bit but you wanna I I just think it should be lighter but I just don't think right now before all of this education about um you know the override is going on you got April May all these meetings going on and we're going to put something out there and they're going to be like oh yeah that's right we already have that

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override so I don't know that's my opinion >> focus in like six months and that way it should align with like an education and awareness piece ahead of the hearing. >> That's true. >> So, well, so for the So, the the application opens in September, >> right? >> Do we want to do it before the application or do we want to do it before the public hearing?

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>> I think before the application is a good idea. >> So, that's more like September, >> August. So, I can put it out to August. >> Yeah, that's what that's for. >> Just think after July. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I Yeah, I agree. Um, but

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just to be clear, just to be clear, it takes more than just so you have to remove it the same way that you adopt it. So the CPA and it had to pass at town meeting and at the same >> they talked about that and they didn't want their their slides changing for anybody to be taking it away because

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nobody had so far, you know. So no, I understand. But >> it's just really >> we could do a article on what we've done so far and show pictures of the stones and >> with pictures because >> Yeah. People have no >> right time before

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things are for those of us who are involved. We know where places are. Yeah. most of the time, but for the general public, you know, >> through the chair um on the communication committee, subcommittee we're talking about and I'm with baited breath waiting

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to see these upgrades to the web town website because um I'm wondering if one of the examples I've shown the town website will have different bullets for different for example residents. You

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click on residence, report a problem, pay a bill, whatever. Maybe it would be appropriate to have CPA have its own bullet and in in that just as another means of getting that information out to people click on CPA, what's this? And then you could see what we've done, you

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know, that we pay for the engineering project for John Pon. So right now we do have the pictures on the web page, but I will say like you have to click into each and then go, you know, you get out and so maybe the new website will be just user friendly where they can scroll the picture. You know what I mean? Maybe it'll be

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>> we're discussing it. We're discussing it more at the next meeting and that's going to be one of my recommendations because I feel like there's room on that homepage to put CP CPA. I mean, somebody might even click on it just out of curiosity. What is that? and click on it

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and they say, "Oh, oh, that's that little sir tax we got. Oh, let's see. What did they do? Oh, I didn't know they did that." >> It's another way to promote things that CPS funded, >> right? >> Well, so I would like I would love to see Lynn write up something for them to ask. >> Just so everyone knows, she did help

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write the memo >> and I thought she I thought she did a great job. >> Did a great job. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, well, >> so yeah, I'd love to see you do a write up and then maybe we can get some uh photographs in there and do an article maybe in that August, September range.

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So, I'll put it back on for maybe I'll put it on for July, the end of because we meet the third week in July, we'll discuss maybe a draft and then again in August and that'll be the go. >> Yeah. From there. >> Okay. So, July

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and August All right. Agenda item number four, review and possible vote on invitation from parks commission to part participate in Lakeville Day on May 17th, 2026. So once again, they're doing a Lakeville

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Day. It's the 4th annual held on Sunday, May 17th, 11 to 3 at T Williams Camp. I know Nancy, in the past, you've had a table for conservation and you've you've had some CPA materials. I don't know if this is something we want to do our own table or or what.

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>> Not doing anything for APC. I got my hands full with what I'm doing other things right now. So, I'm probably not going to do because you got to do an activity. I could probably do something, but I just and my rangers are busy. We're already having trouble out on the

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APC with destruction and >> whatever. So, I kind of got my hands full this year to be able to do that to go drag out my my coyote and my river and my owl. So, that's what draws people to the table and once I get a hold of

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them, I can do whatever. But I just I can't do that. I got to concentrate on what I'm doing for town meeting myself. So, >> through the chair, I attended last year. I was there with Melissa last year and there was a lot of activity going on already and um I mean where we were with

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our you know the things that she was selling and and all that there was I forget what activity it was like I don't know it was it was some kind of football thing happening and it was pretty well packed between the music and the so I

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don't think that they are at a loss for activities going on there >> and I just don't know what kind of activity we would >> be bringing to the table. And I also don't think it's a venue where people want to read because they're going to have to do that to get educated. So,

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>> okay. >> You know, maybe maybe next year is something if something seems appropriate, we can revisit it, but I think >> um >> Okay. >> I I don't see doing that. >> Yeah. >> I know we're not doing open space. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. I don't I I wouldn't >> I'm busy that day. I wouldn't know what kind of activity to go along with CPA either. I mean, I know some people that did like a paint by number and then to have a kid like just, you know, you pick a little thing and have the kid do the paint. I don't I

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don't know. But if if I mean, if we want to pass, we can pass. If that's, you know, >> I think we could could revisit it next year, maybe. I mean, it's coming up quickly and I just think we'd be throwing something together,

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>> right? Right. True. And maybe even at some point we should explore some and we can talk about this more in July and August. Maybe do we explore another flyer because you know the last time we did a flyer was when we were trying to adopt it and then we changed it after this committee was officially created

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and we used that same flyer. >> We haven't looked at that for a while. I don't know if we want to >> we could update the FL, you know, it with all the projects that we've done because I just second thinking that even though I can't do it, if I could get a

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couple of my rangers to do it, at least have a handout on the table. >> Oh, I was going to say, but I don't think we won't we won't have it done in time since April, you know, but we should have it so that we can use it when stuff like this comes up. I agree. Right. Or or maybe a more appropriate event or some, you know, cuz I think

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Lakeville Day is definitely catered more towards the the kids. So maybe something like even here like add the flyers to the COA, the scen in the library, wherever else makes sense. >> So people can see. >> So something like the brochure that from the open space that I

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>> Yeah, exactly. So did So we had a CPA trifold. >> Oh, you did flyer. >> It was in black and white, right? I see. >> No, it was not. Oh, it was color. >> There were some then the the the first ones were printed. I think Barbara Stad helped us print them. So, those came out

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really nice. And then like we did some later like copies of them, so they weren't as like, you know. >> Yeah. Barbara did the open space one, too. >> Okay. Yeah. So, something like that to just put out >> help get >> I don't Are the pictures on the website? >> Yes. >> Okay.

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>> Yep. So, you But like I said, you have to go to the CPA page. You got to click on there, but I didn't look at the pictures. >> And you have to click into each one. >> Okay. All right. >> So, um, so maybe I'll put on, uh, for July and August discuss flyers.

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>> Okay. >> Um, and we can see if I can pull up a draft of the more recent N. I don't know if you have it, Nancy, or >> Yeah, I probably do. I probably have copies of it because I had them from somewhere if we did something >> the trifold or the or the flyer that we

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just posted again. the trifold that we had originally. >> Yeah, you have. >> Yeah, I think you had them to town meeting. >> Yeah, that's it. Town Meeting. That's what it was. >> Yeah, we handed them out at town meeting. >> So, anybody have a copy of it or Oh, you have the master? >> I will find one. >> Okay. >> I know I have older copies, but then I

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don't know. I think you might >> I'll find it. I'm coming to your May 7th meeting, right? So, yeah, I'll find it. >> Okay. Um, so yeah, if we can try to find a copy of the more recent, I'll put that on the um that agenda for July and

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August, too. Um, and I will I'll write back to parks and just, you know, we'll pass this year, maybe next year. >> I mean, it's only a month away. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> All right. Next item on the agenda is

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old business status updates on approved projects from project liaison. We don't have anything open right now. So I'm going to just I leave it on the agenda just so we can just in case um photos of completed on growing

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projects. I don't I don't think I've seen any additional photos. I'm trying to I think somebody sent me the pictures of the um >> John sent you ones on the Koopa. >> The Koopla. Yes. I think I did. >> I think be when the last project was

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done for the um Thumpson Hills, she sent you pictures at the end of that. That was like >> that was the one I have a ton of ton from a bunch. Yeah. >> It's hard to tell which project it was, >> right? Um, and then we don't really have a

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picture of the plan for John Palm Park, but maybe >> I don't know if I can update the file. I haven't seen the plan. I know con >> we need to see the plan. I will have it for the next meeting. >> Okay. You want to bring it here? >> Yeah. >> You want Okay. So, you want to forward it electronically to me

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>> when I get it? Yes. Cuz I think I was supposed to get it and I haven't gotten it yet and I didn't I haven't followed up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But it's done. We'll have it. we can maybe put on the agenda for next time so that >> okay >> everybody can see it.

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>> Um memo sent to parks in the packet. The memo that we sent out. >> Um and once again, thank you Lynn for helping write that. I thought that was lovely here. >> Have you heard anything >> articulating? Um nothing nothing um

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>> negative. >> There was never really a direct response to that. It was the response was basically that a joint meeting has been requested which I believe upcoming.

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>> Oh, I haven't seen the request but I did I mean I I spoke with Melissa just >> Oh, I I apologize personally but other than that >> I apologize to correct myself. they wanted to wait until um after the new liaison appointments

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which >> so >> I have questions about myself. Okay. Um anyway at the next meeting we'll be discussing leazison on appointments and um I expect but that was the the to in

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total the response was that a joint meeting has been requested. >> Okay. So I'll let you know from the next meeting which is next week I believe. >> Okay. >> All right. Um >> would that change though? You're talking

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about liaison appointments like once we're kind of on a project, wouldn't we kind of >> stay with it? >> Well, I thought and she's good through July. >> Yeah. >> Her her term, >> but don't they usually just reappoint it >> usually

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>> if she's still on the committee? >> You don't change a liaison. >> Right. Right. >> Especially if the person's been on the committee for a while. That's my kind of my point. >> Be starting someone all over again, >> right? >> And it takes a lot to learn,

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>> right? You know, she went to meetings. I went to meetings, >> right? >> At first, you come in and you're like, what? >> I was under the impression as long as liaison was still on that committee once their term expired, the select board would just reappoint that person.

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>> But unless the liaison does not want to continue. >> Exactly. has happened with our >> but if the liaison does and expresses an interest that they still want to continue >> right >> I'm happy to for the record I'm happy to stay on his liazison through folks and for what that's worth

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>> so we'll we'll talk more >> yeah no it's definitely a lot to take in for someone right new >> so ideally yeah as long as you're willing hopefully that shouldn't be an issue >> um

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all right meet with town administrator in July regarding affordable housing trust and chapter 61 removal process. That was something I decided to add um to ask that we discuss with them because I know years ago we this committee

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actually looked at the process and they were the select board was forming this process and part of that process when land is available is to alert the community preservation committee because if it's land how do you know what money is available without

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contacting this committee? So, I just want to kind of go over now that we have a new town administrator and I we haven't looked at the um policy in a while. I just want to make sure that that process is still in place. >> It wasn't so from open space. So, we're tracking those properties now. In fact,

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I have a whole bunch that I have to go over uh at this point, but now we're tracking it. There was a piece that came out and nobody knew and I think it was 10 years ago. So, nobody was really tracking it. That's kind of what happened with the pig farm >> too. >> So um we're we're putting in a process

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now making sure they but there is a process but it just nobody was managing it >> right. >> So right now open space is doing that. We have all these lists of identifying the 61 pro 61a you know all of them you know and then the um also we have to go

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and look at whether they're near you know whether they're desirable or not. So that's what we're doing right now and it's like is it near wetlands? Is it near protected land? Is it you know all of this stuff that we have to put on the spreadsheet. So then if we see anything come up but then we have to see it you know and so you know

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>> yeah and there's that step where with the assessors >> which they weren't giving them any any information at well we have kind of a you know was kind of a mess right the assess we didn't have one >> right aren't they supposed to be renewed every year? Yeah. So, I mean, if they're not renewed,

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>> the selectman weren't even notified. It was just someone needs to be notified of that, >> right? They was though. That's >> Yeah. >> So, now I we we're've been pushing it. So, I know David has been at the town hall, you know, all the time. So, >> closing the barn door after the horse is

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out of the bar. >> Right. Right. >> But I think they've had issues with keeping an assessor. So, we had one in house and then we didn't. Now, I think it's >> exactly it. I'm not blaming anybody really except for >> one more of those things where like with not having a planner there's things that

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>> can't happen that you know people might want to say well this isn't happening well you know >> so that's that's what you know David's been really focused about trying to make lists and you know he did finally J Joan actually got the list um from the assessor uh finally but it was like we

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couldn't get any lists at first and we were making them up ourselves you know but finally Joan was able to get a list So now we're using those lists and we're we're looking at them, you know, the perspective of what's what's valuable to us and what isn't. You know what I'm saying? Like is it near wetlands? Would wildlands trust be interested in it? You

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know, all of that. So we're looking at it, but you can go to the you know, I would talk to David before you because he's been working with um Andrew, too. So that's what I So this is when he So when I had asked him about the affordable housing trust language um he

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no um Andrew the town administrator he offered he said oh if you guys want us want me to join a meeting I'd be happy to. I'm like oh that that'd be great if we could do it in July. Yeah. And he said yeah that works. >> So just one more thing while we have him here. I thought let's see if he can pull out the policy. We'll go over it and if

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we have some recommendations to send to the select board maybe we could as a committee >> uh look at that. So >> yeah. >> Yeah, that's what my hope is because on that the the proc so when somebody is removing from chapter 61, you're supposed to have the right of first

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refusal if the use changes. >> Right. >> Right. Or if they remove it. So those two caveats are supposed to trigger and that trigger >> Yeah. somebody's got to be managing it and there wasn't anybody managing it. So you have the process. It's just you have to have somebody watching it,

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>> right? So >> yeah, that's the process. But >> and I think it can't hurt to have us sort of make >> right >> keeping an eye, not keeping an eye, but just being >> Well, that's why this uh land, I think it's 14 acres over near Berkeley,

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>> has been in chapter, and it's uh I mean has been out of chapter for 10 years and the rates have not changed. >> Oh, >> yeah. There's a lot of stuff that's >> Oh, wow. So that's tax money the town is losing out on, unfortunately. >> Wow. Yeah. If it's not being tracked and

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it's it's being taxed at a lower rate to be in chapter and if it's no longer in chapter and it should be tax at the fall, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yikes. >> I know. It's like it's not good >> though. I know. But how are we supposed to track if people are selling their land, you know?

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>> Like it'll be on there. >> Yeah. >> Zillow every day. >> Is there something that goes on the deed though when you're in check? Oh, >> so I don't Yeah, I don't think it's >> it's still recorded at the registry of

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deeds. I believe it's just recorded as a restriction. It's not attached to the deed itself, but it is recorded. >> Okay. >> Cuz when you go on to like on our GIS map and you click into the assessor's card and you or property card, whatever it is, the yellow and white one that

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comes up that and it gives you the different codes. It's not that I know what those codes are, but I know you know it has the indication. >> I have the list of codes if you want them. >> I know. >> Thank you. But thank you. >> I have to do my 50 properties if you'd like to do those. >> That's huge.

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>> It is huge. >> That's huge. When you realize the fiscal implications of that, the the financial >> Yeah. How much money >> and and I mean when you see the list, I bet you that's pages and pages of Excel sheet. >> Yeah.

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>> Pages. It's not just like it what was it 2,100 acres when we were doing the CPA? It was over 2,000 acres in chapter 61 in town. >> So that's a and there's they're not just all big ones. Yeah, >> there's a lot of little ones that list

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trying to figure it out. Yeah. >> That's a big list. >> So yeah, it's uh Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. David's the list person. >> Well, good luck with that. Good luck with that open space. Thank you for doing that work. Um, yeah. So, I'll put process and possible vote just so we have that on in

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case we want to try to send a recommendation at some point in July. >> Um, agenda item number six, request sent to town administrator to post to fill vacant resident at large housing seat. >> Madam Chair, >> yes. >> Question. >> Sure.

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>> Where does it say that a selectman can't step be on? Does it specifically say that somewhere? So in the statute itself, it lists off all of the the members. So there's five members that must be on it.

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>> Conservation, planning, >> open space, historic, parks. >> So those are the Wait, >> what am I think? >> Yeah, I don't think Yeah. >> Here's the thing. I talked to Tracy today. Yeah.

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and cuz she's a ranger so we there was trouble. Anyway, um she just won the seat of selectment in Middleboro and town council said she could stay on CPA. >> Really? >> Yes. >> I thought >> I thought are you sure? And she said yes.

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>> Did they ask the coalition's advice? Because I know that >> I thought Steuart said no. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm just saying. >> What did So, Lynn, you were just at that training. Did he mention that at all? >> No. >> No, we didn't. And actually, I didn't really realize until after. So,

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>> but but so in the statute, it it says you can have no less than five, no more than nine members, and it lists off who has to be on it, and then it says the other members um to be deter one of them has to be the the housing too, right?

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The housing seat. Um, so we had we had those resident at large, but I'm pretty sure it was a conflict between the budget because you don't want to have your select board overseeing the budget and then also overseeing your CPA fund budget as well because they're

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responsible for the town general fund and >> there's no supplanting. So you want to make sure that there's no overlap with those. I can ask Stuart again to send >> because Tracy said that she might have to recuse herself on >> Yeah. on projects >> on a pro. Yeah. >> Yeah.

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>> Do we know if we even interested in staying? >> I mean, >> I'm just saying. >> Well, cuz we have Sandy. She submitted an application for this housing seat. >> Oh, well, if we already have it, it was so hard to find somebody last time. I'm just saying.

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>> Well, I didn't Sandy. She went to the meeting the other night, too. >> Yeah, she went to the meeting the other day. >> Okay. All right, that's that's fine. I'm just because Tracy said that today. I'm like, well, is it in stone or whatever? Because if we if we're going to be looking like we did last time, how long

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was it empty? >> Yeah. Right. >> But if it's not going to be empty, then >> I withdraw my question >> because Leah, I think, has signed up for a lot of committee. So, >> yeah, she probably has, too. >> Yeah. Know, I know she loves CPA and and

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being on only me once a month really. So, >> right. But I also I'm always hesitant if I like to error on the side of, you know, >> question what Steuart says. >> Yeah. What does Stuart say? >> Um, so yeah, I did send that email over

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>> and Sandy submitted her application. >> Excellent. So, yeah, I don't think >> Sy's last name. >> Anderson. Sandy Anderson. >> Thank you. >> Um, all right. Agenda item number seven, review and possible vote vote on meeting

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minutes for March 19, 2026. >> Motion to approve. >> Second and a second. >> Jeez. >> All in favor? >> I meeting minutes are approved. >> I am going to make a mistake on purpose. >> I already did. I did. I had to correct

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like >> I think you're amazing. >> I had to correct like three things though. Did you forget? >> Oh yeah, you did. I did because I was like, Sue, did you do this on purpose? >> I think you did. >> She did pick it up. >> I think you did. Cuz I was like, wait a

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sec. It was like minor things, though. So, she's checking on us, ladies. That's right. All right. Our next meeting date is May 21st, 2026, 6:30 p.m. at the police station again.

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>> Okay. Okay. Can I make a request for the agenda? >> Yes, you may. >> Um, I'd like you to put on um the a discussion about the vigorous property and also in like in relation to

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>> how what's an emergency and how we do things in an emergency if there's like damage to property. I mean, we have you sent me the place where it says if there's damage to property or whatever, >> right? Yep. qualify as something that we could put

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in that's not necessarily in the time zone. >> Oh, right. >> Right. Age 20. >> Something ahead of time. >> Say again. >> You guys do something ahead of time instead of in response. >> Yeah. >> So, it might be something that could go

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on for town meeting, but I'd like to discuss it at a meeting when it's on the agenda. >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, discuss property. Can I also say that on the 7th of May, I'm going to do a um site visit

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>> to the cowboy house on the viggers property at >> 5:30. >> 5:30 >> at 5:30. If anybody would like to see what's been done there and how beautiful it looks inside the cowboy house. >> Um it's on the Viggers property. It used to be called the Boy Scout house. The

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Boy Scouts used to meet there. It's right across the street where you you park to go on the trail to go to the vigor's property. There's a little house. >> Okay. Good. >> May 7th. >> May 7th at 5:30. >> I've never heard of cowboy house. I've heard it.

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>> I haven't either. That's it. Goes back, >> I think, way back from when there were cowboys. >> Huh? >> When they were cowboys. >> Well, well, a lot of some of the older people that were working on it were more familiar with it before the Boy Scouts came along. I think >> you have historical reference to it,

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too. You do to the cowboy house. Okay. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> So, what am I putting? So, just just discuss bigger property. Yeah. >> Discuss possible vote. Do we need What do we need >> on the agenda? Anything specific? No. >> I always put discussion and possible vote just in case. I always do that on

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my agenda just in case. >> Okay, I can add that. Anything else? >> No. >> All right. So, our next meeting is May 21st. >> Motion to adjourn. Second >> and a second. >> Quick on that one.

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Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Forgot we already