[Music] Good evening and welcome to the May 13th meeting of the Lakeville Conservation Commission. Um, Lake Cam is recording. Is there anyone else in the audience that's recording? Seeing none, we'll start by introducing ourselves.
I'm Mark Minton. I'm the conservation agent. John Leblanc, Nancy Yates, Joseph Chamberlain, William Rafaros. All right. So, um, our first meet um, on the agenda tonight is meet with Matt
Ferrer. Okay. I I'm sorry. I don't know what you look like. So, if you would please come up to the front of the microphone. There's a picture of him on his resume. There is. All right. Well, he was sitting behind the other guy and I put my glasses on. Good. Hi. How are you
doing? How you doing? Hey, man. Good. So, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and why you'd like to be on the conservation commission? Yeah. So, um one, I uh my I have a construction background. That's um what I do. Um I
just moved into Lakeville. Um I enjoy all the construction, all the uh building stuff, right, for the community and stuff. Um, current couple of my projects I've done was in Highland, the red barn, the two new builds. Um, so
what I like to do is taking like the old homes, building them back and bringing it back to the commuting. Now that I moved into Lakeville, I want to learn more. I want to learn how I can help the community and uh um be part of the team with you guys.
Does anybody anybody have any questions they'd like to ask? read your resume here. Yep, we have your resume. And we are um we're fortunate tonight for a qu for quum because we have one member missing. So um it's nice to have the additional
members so that we don't have to be scrambling for a forum. Um Bill's new. Joe's been on since forever. God was a child. Um I've been on for quite a while. And that's John, you've been on for quite a while now, too, huh? Mhm.
And Michelle's our other one who's been on for maybe a couple of years. Um and Bob Bashard had been on for as long as you, Joe. Yes. Yep. So um we will as long as everybody's in
agreement, we'll send a memo to the board of selectmen to give our recommendation that you be appointed. Um once you are, it will be on a select meeting and once you're appointed, you will um get something in the mail and you'll have to go get sworn in. Our next
meeting is the 27th, so I don't know how the timeline on that works out, but Lori will be in touch with you to let you know. Okay. And then should we do this with a vote officially? Probably probably I'll make a motion to nominate Matt Ferrer for the uh empty board of uh
what is this? Conservation Conservation Commission second that Okay. All in favor? I I Okay, cool. Thank you. Thank you for coming in tonight. I obviously I like to learn once I'm sure
once I get in and there's site visits. I like to shadow with you guys, learn as much as I can. Have you ever built anything close to the wetlands? I have. Okay. Yeah. That's all I ask. Nets and hay barrels. So, you've had not here cuz goes into the water sock tubes. You've
had experience. Yeah. Okay. Good. Good to meet you, Matt. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Okay. Um, I'm just seeing what I have to read. 103 Hackett Avenue. spectacles. Pursuant to Mass General
Laws Chapter 131, the Wetlands Protection Act, the Lakeville Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing on 5:13 2025 at 6:30 p.m. at the Lakeville Police Station, 323 Bedford Street on the request for determination of applicability. The applicant, Delco's
Landscape, is proposing a PA walkway alongside of the house to a new patio. The project is located at 103 Hackett Avenue and is also identified on assess map 51, block 3, lot 19.
Done. Okay. So, I think this is me. Um, I I handed everybody the next three. They're all RDAs. Also for 103 Hackadav, um I worked with um
uh Adam um and Tony. Um they I spoke with them a little bit uh and I think they reached out to John as well. Um, I'm trying to to
um streamline some of these uh permits adjacent to to in this case Long Pond. Trying to see if an RDA might um be appropriate. I
think on this one I still have a whole bunch of questions based on what was provided to us. I it's all in your packet. The RDA um um I and and things that were on the
diagram or diagrams that I didn't really discussed discuss uh things like an addition of mudroom. Uh there's some new roof drains that are indicated that would go in near the pond.
um uh an addition of u an open porch and all of this is within the back of the the the house. The existing structure is about 25 ft from from the pond. Um what we had discussed was trying to
um um the intent was to put in a patio. Um and I still have questions. I can't really discern from the application materials, dimensions, um, anything about there's going to be any soil
disturbed. Um, so I guess my recommendation would be that the commission uh, issues a positive determination of applicability for this one. Uh, just based on the information I have in front of me. Um
um so this isn't for the whole property. This is just for the patio and walkway, right? This rest of the termination. Yeah, it was um it doesn't I don't think it has anything to do with the the additional
the mud room and all that stuff. This is Deloraco who's applying for it, right? Uh it's it's all within the 100 foot buffer though. Um, I I'm just looking at what they gave to me and uh, so you may be right. I don't know what your
conversations were. Is Is anybody here from for this project? I I think um I don't know what the commission thinks about this, but the another option is to continue it and let them
come back in with some more details about. My real question was I can't really tell much about what the patio the dimensions and what it's made out of, what it is it how much water is going to let it go in. Yeah.
Yeah. and the and the other pieces that did appear to be what they were wanting to do kind of confounded the whole process of you know could this fall under an RDA could we condition you know a patio with siltation or whatnot it's
like 26 by 14 if you can okay if they're gra paper they they made this the scale I guess that's the lawn itself is what 65 ft wide about that right. I think it's it's on there.
And there's 25 ft between the house and the water line. Um yeah, that's what uh it's used in the GIS. Yeah. I don't think How could they fit this? The plan shows the mud room, but it's not referenced in the activity and work.
Right. So, if they're attaching this plan to their RDA and it says um proposed addition mudroom. Yeah, but if you look at the the project description in the paper, right? I'm saying it's not there.
That wouldn't be the first time that they didn't call out everything they're doing. So, I I don't know. I would think we just continue it and get somebody to speak to it rather than jumping to the gun and saying that would give them a positive determination, right? Mhm. Yeah. Find
out if it is just the walkway or patio and go from there and see that in that small spot cuz we can also call that out on our determination. This is only for the patio, right? So, can we continue it
without the Yeah, of course. All right. So, motion to continue 103 Hackett Avenue to May 27th, 6:30 p.m. at the police station. So moved.
Second. 5:27. All in favor? I So I think I'll save it. This is a save pile. So the next uh item was 135 Hemlock Shore Road. Okay. I got it right. Oh,
I'm sorry. That's okay. Excuse me. Pursuant to Mass General Law, Chapter 131, the Wellness Protection Act, the Lake Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing on 51325 at 6:30 p.m. at the Lake Police Station, 323 Bedford Street on the request for determination of
applicability. The applicant, John Hancock, is proposing to add a natural stone patio to lawn, replacing replace existing rear patio and walkway, and remove two trees. The project is located at 135 Hemlick Shore Road and is also
identified on a census map 45 block 2, lot 5. Okay. Good evening. Hi, I'm John Hancock and I'm seeking to um do a few things. Uh the first one is to replace an existing
walkway that goes from the um driveway to the to the house and it leads to a patio as well. An existing patio. Uh the walkway itself right now is a safety hazard because it's sold. And what is it, John? It's brick and granite. And
what are you replacing it with? Uh we're replacing it with natural stone and granite. Okay. Yeah. And then the um there's then there's the existing patio which we're replacing with the natural stone. And then
there'll be like an adjacent patio as well to the left of the of the house. And there's a there'll be a 20x 20 natural stone uh patio with a uh 10x 20
like uh will step down. There'll be a retaining wall and then a step down to a 10 by 20. And then there's we're requesting to have uh two trees removed from the stone
wall which I provided pictures for. It's destroying the stone wall. And so so the walkway and the um um that you're going to replace the walkway that's outside the buffer zone that looks to be outside the 100 foot
buffer zone and then the it you it's referenced as the old patio but that's kind of the la landing the entrance. So that's that's got to be that's almost it's on the edge of the buffer zone.
I just figured I'd include it just to be safe. Good idea. So that that um I did have a couple questions. I don't know. The the one that that um I guess was the the biggest question for Mark for me was there's an
old boat house. Yeah. That that was removed. Oh, it's already gone. Yeah. So you that was an old B plan that I I just tried to find something that was closed and had the elevations. Okay. So there's a if you look at the pictures you'll see a stone wall that was replaced. Yeah. I
didn't I didn't see a boat house but I just was reading the project description. Exactly. Yeah. So So that because it involves some amount of fill I guess is what what the diagram you provided. So that was a question
and so I have the old thing here if there's any question about it. So the entire one. All right. And then it also looked like I guess just another question. Um it looked like uh there was a deck put in or it was that maybe Yeah,
there's a black deck that was I came here for. Okay. So that's just that was just an artifact from something you'd already done. Okay. That I I was just looking at the diagram. We're not planning on having the patio go any further than the the edge of the
deck anyways. Yeah. Probably a little shorter. All right. Yeah. I I mean my real questions was take me down the boat house. The boat house. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. So, did you take down trees before? Yes,
I've been there. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Just checking. Yeah. Okay. But they were up closer to the house. These ones are definitely just sticking out of the patio. Um, is the plan just to cut the trees off and Yeah, we're going to leave the stump because we don't want to disturb
it. Yeah. So, flush with the ground. So, don't have to. Yeah, we're not doing anything. So, this is that age-old question when people want to repair their stone walls and stuff. Are we going to report on a notice of the tent? Um,
cuz I don't think honestly the patio and the walkway out front. Yep. could probably do without an an NOI. Can people maintain their stone walls? But he's not asking to do anything with a stone wall. Well, he's talking about cutting a tree right at the water. Say
again. Right in the right in the wall. It's right It's right in the wall, it looks like. Yeah, but he's just chopping it down. Yeah. Right there. Small tree, too. Both of them. Yeah, they're fairly small. Good. cuz I got a couple too. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But you're not doing you're not touching the wall. You're
just cutting down the trees. Oh gosh. No. No. We don't want to. Yeah. Because we're going to be looking for notice of intent for wall repair. Yes. But he's not asking for that. I want to prevent the I guess what's kind of confusing and I can see how it can be confusing to
Mark cuz he's new. But these plants that are attached kind of look like the other one we just looked at and they have stuff on there that's like already been done that we don't know about. So I can see how that can be confusing. So we just need to pay anything you want to do
it needs to be in the verbal and so you're going to stick to what's in your verbal. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And that that was my confusion. There was stuff in the verbal and then I looked at the site plane. That's all right. I mean you your address might
really what where did this come from? So it was filed the town a while ago and they it was from like from your oy septic system plant in 2000. No it was for the de uh when we demolished the boat house. Okay. Yeah.
All right. It just called out the septic. Yep. Okay. That was in 2000. trees are being chipped up and yeah, taken away. Yeah. I I thought the proposed
patio was was fine. Oh, yeah. The new one myself. I don't you know if we can um so we need some siltation. Cuz they're going to have to excavate a little bit of that grass area. Yeah. Just Yeah. So, we need some
siltation to block it from going it cuz it runs downhill to the pond, right? Yeah, it's it's elevated. It's elevated and it's flat. So, it's the rock the the stone wall. You can see it. It's probably about 12 ft high.
Okay. All right. So, barrier. I I would add if you could just give the conservation commission a call. Consilation's in place and you're ready to start. Just let us know. Yeah. Somebody can come and look. Absolutely.
John, so I can just stop in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You can call. Okay. It'd be better to call than stopping in. Oh, okay. Okay. You got your contact info. I can give you my contact, too. you
could if you call the office but yeah I'll All right. So I'm looking for uh to close the hearing and issue a negative determination three. Thank you very much with um a condition of siltation barrier
to be installed and inspected by the agent before work begins. Sure. So moved. Second. All in favor? I I Any butters here, by the way, have to ask. No. Okay.
Good luck. Thank you. Let's see. All right, that's in the D. Okay. Next is 76 Lakeside. Pursuant to Mass General Law 131, the Wellness Protection Act, the Lakeville Conservation Commission will
hold a public hearing on 513 2025 at 6:30 at the Lakeville Police Station, 323 Bedford Street on a request for determination of applicability. The applicant, Christopher Anthony, is proposing replacement of fire pit and patio with permeable
pavers. The project is located at 76 Lakeside Avenue and is also identified as assesses map 51 block 3, lot 7. Good evening. Good evening. So, yeah, we have a an existing fire pit, and I think
there's a picture in the package that was sent. And basically, all we're looking to do is take the existing fire pit, put down a a small 300 approximately 300 ft patio with a little sidewall and build a fire pit. That's
pretty in that same spot. Exact same spot. So, so the lawn uh the patio actually uh the will be made of the permeable pavers will kind of replace the the grass. The grass right there. So, you'll still have
some infiltration. Yes. Yeah. And less mowing without a go. Um I had uh so so down below there's a tree next to the water. So on the plans you gave gave us it
uh you mentioned that there's you're going to it new river stone. Is that going to be um is that going to be the ent is it going to be basically that entire section of the lawn there? Correct. Right around the tree so the tree is not getting disturbed at all. you know,
which tree actually loves. So, um, and we're just going to put basically stone on top of that on where the grass is, river stone, the wash stuff. Exactly. Just so that it's it's all kind of eaten up and eroded at this point. So, it's a way of just trying to control that a
little bit. I don't have a lot of experience with the permeable pavement, but I think it's, you know, it's a real I know EPA promoted that as kind of a storm water solution. It's Yeah. The idea this stuff sort of hangs onto the water for a
while. Let it go in between the bricks and then slowly it's it's almost like they're porous. Correct. Have Have you got them on on site? I do not yet. Have you ever lifted them? I have not. They're way lighter than they look. Okay, that's good to know. Yeah, that's really good to know.
Okay. They're also pretty durable is what I material I looked at years something 20. Yeah. Our concept is we're just going to have some rocking chairs on it. Nothing, you know, and off in a discrete corner somewhere. A little pile of replacements. Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. No question. So, where you're putting the new river stone, that's grass now. Are you going to dig that out? Yeah, it'll be eroded. Um, it'll be dug up a little bit, probably about 3 or 4 in just to be able to fill that in. Have to be a little careful cuz of all the roots and stuff. Yeah,
there's got to be some kind of siltation down there. Okay, fair enough. And that's pretty much there's no real slope to that lot, right? It's pretty much flat. It's pretty flat. Yes, there is a slight grade, but nothing significant. All right. So, I take it we're looking
for a neg -3 discrimination with a condition of tiltation barrier will be installed and called for an inspection by the agent. Yes. Yes. So moved. Second. Any abut
butters? All in favor? I thank you. You're welcome. Great. Have a good night. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thanks everybody. All right. I'm looking at 17, but I don't have
a meeting notice for it cuz it's a continuation. Yeah. Oh, that's why. All righty. Continue from 422. Okay. Got it. Okay. 17 Shore Avenue. Mark. Okay. Uh, hi Lou. Hey. Um, so this
is um was I guess it's after the fact RDA. We spoke about this previously. Yep. Um I had gone down um and taken a look at at the work
um and then I know John did as well. It it was um replacement of a or a new stone patio um built over an existing concrete uh patio. It was a flag stone and had
gravel. So, it was semi-permeable. Um, and there was some work uh repairing um the existing retaining wall there at the edge of the water. Um saw new grass was put down over the
lawn to stabilize it. It still it it wasn't finished when I the first time I stopped by, but I went back the next day and it was all done. So, the miracle of sod, right? Yeah, just just done.
Um, and there's a new fence that was uh put put in as well, I think. Put in. So, yeah, down one side and and there and when I got there, um the f first time I visited uh there was siltation in place. It was staked. It
was looked good. So, um, uh, I I I think we the commission should consider just approving the the after effect, uh, make a determination, a a
negative determination to the proposed work would be my advice. I agree. Okay. It looked great when I went there. Okay. So we need a motion to issue to close the hearing and issue
ag -3 determination for 17 shore a and I guess there's no conditions. So moved. A second. Conditions. Call us next time. Completed. Well, well apply for it first. apply for it ahead of time next
time. Yeah. All right. All in favor? I I Thanks, Luke. Thank you. Good to see you. Take care. All right. Next. All right. So, here we go again. Now, this isn't a continuence for off
myri um and I have no notice. Do you have the newspaper notice? Yeah. Good. If you have it, I will read it. It's small. Got my
glasses. Oh, well. All right, I can do it. Pursuant to Mass General Laws 131, the Wetlands Protection Act, the Lakeville Conservation Commission will hold a public hearing on May 13, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. at the police station, 323 Bedford Street for the filing of an
abbreviated notice of resource area delineation. The applicant DSM Property Group LLC is seeking confirmation for 3,778 linear feet of bordering vegetated wetland and
921 lineal feet of top of bank of an intermittent stream on the 45.23 23 acre portion off Mrick Street that is located within Lakeville Mass and associated with 205 Mrick Street in Taon Mass. The
property is also identified as assesses map 6 block 4 plot one. You want it back? Keep it done. I got a copy. Okay. Thank you. So, no problem. Could you
identify yourself? Yes, I'm Greg Drake from Outback Engineering representing DSM Property Group. All right. And I can give you a brief overview if you like. Okay. Um, basically the applicant is seeking confirmation for
u mentioned 3,778 lineal feet of wetland line as well as 920 ft linear feet of top of bank for an intermittent stream. This is the wetland line. here. It's in the uh lakefield portion of this property and the intermittent
stream is down here. Um there's approximately total 63 acres on the property. Approximately 18 acres is in Taton. Um and that has the frontage that is 205 Mrick Street. Uh that actually
was um on the agenda for Taton um Concom last night and was approved by them. So they've already approved that in mind. Um, but their wet land line's just that little teeny piece right at the top up here. And so they approved all this.
Okay. Yes. How many flags approximately? I don't really know. That's good question. I can Well, usually the series will be on there, but if you uh this isn't this is half of it. So that
looks like 57 on that side. I'm now looking at just Lake Bell, like 57 on that side. So there's and it goes from 94 of the D. There's 55 of the G and on the C, some of that is
in Taton. So I think it's 40 of those. Okay. A lot. Yep. And plus the top of bank flags that are on this section here which we blew them up so you can see the flags. Okay. That's a
bank. Yep. For the intermittent stream. Yep. Oh. So, not only counting a zillion flags over there is all the flags on the bank. It's a big property. And it looks like by the time you get out of the buffer bone on both sides cuz
it's surrounded. So by the time you get out of the buffer zone on one side, it it is a big property. So it doesn't look like a lot on here. But this is what 1 in equals 40 ft. Who did the delineation? um originally done by Elise Trip who was
work for our company and then I went back out and because I do the deliation for outback now and just uh refl checked all their lines and that was this year right? Yep. Just a couple months ago. I found it
interesting that you got looking at some of the soil types and how much of the stuff growing there is all facultative stuff was actually very little obligatory except when you get to the Pete and Muck associations. Then you got the old skunk
cabbage and everything there. Easy to easy to tell you that no arguing about where the line is, right? That's for sure. And that you're saying intermittent stream goes under 140.
And there's a covert right there. Any any name attached to that? It just identified as intermittent. Yeah. So I got to say to the commission, I guess, that we're looking at a similar
project where the intermittent stream kind of loses its bank in the uh in the wetland area cuz you just have it starting like out of the wetland area. Can you go back to the Yeah, it does. It just disperses out. You can't see the
flow or the bank when you get to this portion up in here. So, it's flowing to the southwest. Yeah, it's coming under 140 and flowing down into the west. Oh, okay. So, to the northeast. Northeast. Yeah.
No real visible bank as you get down be Yeah. Yeah. Just it just spreads out. Spreads out. Yeah. No vis. No visible flow. No, that I saw and it would be minor anyway.
Well, do you is there the information in here that I don't know if I saw it if it was if there are photographs and pictures of days where it's dry. No, it was only out there for a couple of days. So, obviously during that time
it was but it doesn't show on USGS as it doesn't. It appears, but I don't see a USGS map on here either. Am I missing it? Oh, wait a minute. I think maybe.
So, that determination was from stream stats on USGS or the USGS. Yeah, I didn't go into the detail of stream stats because I didn't see it on USGS. Yeah. [Music] So, I know we're only considering the
wetland delineation, but um I I think this is it's zoned residential I don't know. I'm I'm not sure cuz I'm in just working with the wetlands, not the uh what they're going to do with it after what they're playing. That's not what we're talking about tonight.
What's the What's the access point to the to the the property that uh is actually car street
that comes over here? Okay. There is a car path that actually was, you know, a farmer's road or something like that that goes through there. Is that natural that cotton path or was it raised? Oh, that was built. It was built, you know, by whoever probably was farming
the land years and years and years ago. It's not, you know, it hasn't been used there for that stream for that on that cap. No, there's just stones. So, there might have been a bridge at one time. That's my guess. I'm just, you know, because because there's obviously set up with stones and stuff like that
that something was probably there at one time, but there was nothing there now. [Music] So, so did you I'm sorry. Did you say so was the stream flowing even? I mean, it can be flowing and still be in intermittent or was it dry when you were
out there? It was flowing when I was out there, but that was early right in spring. Just I I went to I went to USGS too and tried to see if you know it's John. You come down that if you come off of Lang off of
Kingman Street onto Lang Street and down the end there. Yep. That's all really wet. Yep. I mean, this is all really wet, right? So, I'm thinking Oh, Marky, what were you thinking? We'll go to you
first. Um there's a there's a lot of flags out there. I don't I don't know if um I mean one thought I had initially was if the commission might want to have the delineation u peer reviewed.
Um you look I I had questions about the the determination on the intermittent stream as well but um um again I I guess that's my one thought you know is it no disrespect just no
that's pretty normal actually for large commissions we'll do that for a larger It's a big piece of property. Uh it's a lot of flags. So that would that's my thought. That's the one thing I I
I read the [Music] material. I don't know if um is that isolated vegetative welling. Could that be like a potential vernal pool? Maybe. No, they were small. No. No. Okay. isn't
holding any water at all. It's just just a depression with some wet weather species in it. Do you know if this hot path is going to be the only way in there or I guess it is in the wetlands. It's right in the middle of
it. Yeah. I mean the lower part. You can probably get a look from bottom of Lang Street. Maybe we just had we had another project down there on that down the end of Lang
Street that was like real marginal. It was really wet. So, what do we say, Brandon? Yeah, I I agree. I think we need a stair review with the size of this project and the number of flags and from it's a very
similar project that we had. Brandon did a really good job. So, do you know Brandon Fanoff? Yep, I know him. So, um I guess I need a motion that we're going to get a price on a peer review.
So moved from Brandon. I second. Anybody else? Any butters? Yes. Um you want to come up here and say you have to identify yourself. You want to come up to the table and um I don't know. Tell us your name. Oh,
sorry. And address. Margaret Francis, 185. Okay. All right. Um, we got a letter saying we were butters and telling us, but we don't know what they're talking about. I don't know if it affects us or not
because we don't know what they're doing. They don't have to tell us what they're doing. All they're doing right now is want to identify where they can do something out of the wetlands. Okay. So, um, if you would like a plan, I will give you this plan and it will show
where the wetlands are. Mhm. Um, actually, I'll give you the whole thing so that you can know what's going on. Okay. Thank you. And that's all we're doing is identifying where the wetlands are, where the uplands are. I can't see.
Oh, legally blank. So, let That's 18 months. Yeah. looking way down. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. That's we must You're You're a better, right? Yeah. At the far end. Yeah. And what they were looking at is what we No, that's why I'm
going to give you your own plan. I'm going to give you those plans there. But you're way down. So, we had to notify everybody around the property. But if you take the plans I'm giving you and the whole description of the project and maybe sit down with somebody that can
help you go over it. Okay. And if you have any questions, you can always call the office, but take your time. We're doing nothing tonight but getting a peer review on making sure that those wetlands are correctly delineated. Okay? And then we're going to um we'll come back and have another meeting. So, you
should keep your eye on our agenda because I've opened the hearing. So, we I don't know how long we're going to continue it to. What would you think? A month. probably to give the Brandon the time to
chance to get out there, right? He's got to give you a price, right? And I imagine we have to give you a check before you Right. So, August August 12th. August. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going
month. I'm going down instead of over on the thing. All right. June. How about June? It would be June 10th or June 24th. What do you think? What's today? The 13th. 13th. Yep. Try
for the 10th. June 10th. We can always recontinue it if it's not done. Okay. We can push to the 25th. So, we are here. All right. So, we What's the motion on the floor? I get it already. Let's start
again. You need a motion to um continue the hearing to June 10th, 6:30 at the police station and we will contact Brandon Fanof to do a peer
review between then and now. Now and then. He's the only one who does it for you. I know. like middle hire gets three numbers. I don't know if you guys do that or you just hire Brandon. I mean, it's my preference is to just hire Brandon. If you have a problem with that, I mean, we could get three quotes and still want Brandon because he's been
doing a good job for us and we're happy with it. I'm just asking because everybody does it differently. So, I just So, that's why I'm putting in the motion. So, moved. Sounds good. Okay. All in favor? Okay. You're welcome. All in favor? All in favor? Hi.
Hi. Hi. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. No problem. All right. So, we have 44 cross straight or two shamrock. Which we want to do first? Or are they kind of together?
All right. 44 cross. All right. Cross. So just the partial COC to start. Okay. And this is continued from 422. This is one of the most confusing things I've seen in a while, but I think we figured it out. Huh, Jamie? Niles
explained to me what you guys figured out. Oh, I I do get it. I And I brought notes, okay, in case in case we need them. Okay. Oh, by the way, before we start, I have to go through the obligatory thing. I do need it. When are you going to stop shoving the dirt
around? We've gotten um I'd love to see a pretty new building there. Me, too. As with you. I think we're filing for site plan review um within the next week or two. We've gotten we've gotten through Middlebar. Middle bar's approved and
we've gotten the IMA for the water. So now, uh, it's time to link those approvals because half the lot's in middle borrow. Yep. So, we should be in front of you hopefully within the next five, six weeks, I would imagine. Whoever would desire. Me, too. Me, too,
actually. So, um, all right. So, 44 cross. My understanding is, wait a minute. Which one's 44 cross now? I'm sorry. 44 cross. Yeah. Street. So 44 Cross, my understanding is 44 Cross was the old
driving range. Okay. And that was the address of subdivision. Now it's a subdivision. It's Shamrock Lane with some form lots. But when they put in the subdivision, my understanding is that the numbers and stuff kind of got redistributed. You have Shamrock that went in. You have the numbers for
Shamrock Lane. So are these two addresses the same house? No. No. So one's on one side, one's on the other. All right. So one one was that 44 across was that the original house? So there wasn't a house that's a new house. That was just the address of the driving range itself. All right. So the house on
the left hand side is 44. That's the new house. It has a drainage basin. The two drainage basins in the back. Yep. Right next to the back. That property. And then Shamrock, which we also have a filing for a pool. First one on the right. First one on the right. So it is
it's very cumbersome. That's a the two shamrock has the entire road and drainage system. That's lot That was lot number nine and it was included on the original roadway and drainage system on
that side. So you got drainage included on these two places and the road that are looking for they want to sell. I mean who did the engineering? Billy fantastic company did the engineering. Okay. So Bill Bill Logan built the road.
So they're looking to sell 44. We're trying to come Niles and Niles and I try to come to a solution because they want to try to sell 44 and to Shamrock wants a pool. Correct. So they want a certificate of compliance, but we can't
give them that because the drainage and the road and everything's included. So we're looking for a partial certificate of compliance for both. Is the road not done? No, the road's done. So, um, the the partial certificate of compliance will release certifying that both houses
were constructed appropriately. All of the stuff associated with the houses were done right. What it doesn't include is the drainage basins that are out back because NY's concern, which is, I think, a fairly legitimate one, which is the long-term uh on&m of the basin. Who's
going to take care of it? Is it going to be the town? Is it going to be accepted or is it going to be an association? Is it a town road? No, not not yet. It right now it's still an approved subdivision, but it hasn't been voted on for acceptance, nor has it gone for acceptance. So, who clouds it? Bill Logan, I believe. Okay. And there's no
homeowners association yet. And in their original order of conditions, every two from 2017, there's supposed to be something that comes back to us about that the drainage works. Well, Billy went he did a great job. They went in
there and cleaned all the basins. So it's been done for 2025. So what remains before they get a certificate of compliance is either a homeowners association, the town, somebody who's going to take on that responsibility before we give them a full certificate
of compliance and then that will say it will also continue on their certificate of compliance that that every 2-year bianual report has to be made that those basins are kept clean. But he did do a beautiful He did. Yeah. Looks great. Yeah. So, my understanding is exact.
Niles relayed the exact same message that that's Well, we went around the block a few times when I went out and looked at it. It looks great. So, and they should be able to sell the house and they should be able to have their pool. We just had to figure how the paperwork was going to work. Correct.
Right. That's my understanding. So, yep. And we have the So, the sign tonight. Perfect. So, that's Yeah, that's the first two. Um, that's 44 cross and All right. So, how are we going to do the motion?
I'll make a motion to You have to How wonderful. You have to include both both the properties. Why? It's two different Yeah. things on here. So, why don't we do a two different Okay. A partial. I'll make a motion to issue a partial certificate of compliance for 44 Cross
Street. Do we want to specify what the partial refers to pertaining to the house itself and the site the house is on? Not does not include the road or the drainage or the dra the road. I was just say the house itself. Yep. I anything associated
with the house, the septic, the Okay. Second. All right. Motion to approve a partial certificate of compliance for the house and all associated what would you call them not utilities all associated you
you could do grading in utility a septic is can be considered the utility so I would say yeah and if you want to get fancy you can throw landscape that can include tree removal only. Yep.
Okay. Is that clear? You want me to repeat it? Motion to approve a partial certificate of compliance for the house all associated grading and utilities only. All right. 44 on 44 cross street.
I think I already did or you did. Yeah, but you didn't add all that. So moved. Thank you. Second. Okay. All in favor? I All right. Poor Lori. She tries to figure that out. That's why I try to get in line for her. Okay. Next. Now you're
going to do the same. Two Shamrock. For two Shamrock, correct? Yep. Perfect. So, they're outside the 100 foot buffer zone anyway with the pool, right? Uh, no. Oh, no. In between 50 and 100. This is just for the certificate of compliance. Yep. Then he's going to do the pool.
Okay. All right. So, all right. So, for two shamrock, we need a motion to approve a partial certificate of compliance for two shamrock for uh the house all associated
grading and utilities only. So moved. Second. Okay. Same as 44. I'm not writing it all over again. Try to give her some notes so she didn't have to watch the whole thing. All right. Motion and second. All in favor? I I Okay. All right. Now, now we
talking about the pool. All right. Now we're talking about the pool. All right. So, but let's see. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's on you twice. So, okay. Jamie, did you open the public
hearing? No, I don't know. Let me look. Cuz I know it was on the last hearing, but it was continued. So, we messed up continued from 4:22. Perfectly. All right. Okay. So, I'm good. Yep. All right. Well, good evening, Jamie Beset, Zenith of Consultant Engineers for the
record. Um, so following up on that, uh, we have on Shamrock the second certificate of compliance that you granted, um, we're looking to install a pool with a patio in the backyard. Uh, the majority of the work, I think John noted, was between the 50 and the 100.
There is, uh, some slight grading fencing that's going to happen, um, outside of the 25. Um, but I don't believe we're proposing any new work within the 25 foot buffer. There's a slight bit of tree removal to the south
uh I'd say southeast of the property and um and we are proposing erosion controls on that westerly side. The routine question you always like to ask when a swimming pool is involved. Where's the cabana going to go? Do you
have plans for one yet? No. No. You say that now. No. You got to put your pool supplies somewhere. But now is the time to do it because if you apply for it, even if you don't build it, at least you got the permission to do it as it coming back to us, you know, two years from now
going, I want to build a cabana. Yeah. Well, you know, in in their defense, I you've when you have a pool in, it's nice to figure out where things flow, where you like it, what's going to block the sun, what's not. Um, so this having it for a couple and they're so
expensive. Pools are crazy. Yeah. So, some time to recuperate, I guess. I just had a garden shed put in my house in Wham Harbor. I think the building was made out of
titanium. Just just what I thought was just a simple shed, you know. Oh, yeah. Jamie, part of this they're proposing a fence. Um, yes. Yeah, there has to be a proposed fence with the pool front and ground pool. So,
yes. So, you can kind of see it runs with the erosion control on part of it right at the 25 ft line. Yep. And then cuts around behind the driveway and ties into the house. Okay. So I guess my only thing
[Music] is you don't know where like a storage shed whatever will go Let's put we're going to lower an awful lot of stuff in the buffer zone here. Mhm. Yeah. I think I think the big thing is Nancy is we're keeping the 25 foot Yeah.
air. I know. Then they putting up a fence that makes it even better. It does. Yep. All right. But is this all going to be paved? All the area all all the way to the fence. No. Uh no, the existing driveway
is paved in front of it. Yeah. That comes in this way. Yep. There's pavers around the pool uh or patio around the pool. Besides that, that's going to be loned and seated. Just l Okay. Great. All right. Right where that dewatering basin is. Exactly. Yep. So, there's going to be
some slight grades to make sure drainage flows properly and Yep. Yep. Okay. So, uh, Jamie, this might reveal my ignorance a little bit, but so the proposed dewatering basin. Yes. Is
that um during construction or is that Yes. When you dig the hole for the pool, if they get water in there, they got to pump it somewhere. Exactly. Okay. Yep. So the first uh we showed the detail where you typically wrap it in sock. If
the sock isn't doing um a suitable job of taking sediment out before the water flowing through it, then what you do is you typically add a bag or a secondary row. And Nancy has, ever since I've known her, has been on
dewatering. Um that's been your big that's one of her biggest things. So, but yeah, that's uh I expect that they're going to run in unless they do it September, August, September, I think they're going to run into it. Yeah. Well, you got Are you guys trying to get
this in for the summer? We are. Yeah. We'll see. My husband's a school teacher. Oh, okay. You know, he needs something to do. He is. Yeah. He needs to let them play outside.
Anybody else? Any thoughts? So, so what's what's the standard? Um, again, this reveals my ignorance or inexperience perhaps. So, uh, when you when you drain the pool, what's the what's the, uh, standard? You
don't want it to go into the wetland, right? Well, I think the big concern people have is with backwash, not the actual pool itself. Right. The pool's clean water. So, it's got a filter, right? Yeah. So, there'll be some type of a filtration system here. Um, if the filter is placed beyond the 100 foot,
then it's usually not an issue. Most conservations don't want it within 25 ft. Um, or you can get a cartridge. Well, you can get a cartridge. I was going to say, yeah, they're going away from that old style drain. Uh the cartridges are y and then you have the saltwater pools are a big thing as well
now. So So I asked that question because I don't have a pool. Sorry. Real question. You don't want to drain it because you don't want to have to fill it again. That's right. It's expensive. Yeah. And you can't well water. It'll turn brown because of the
iron in the water. Take a couple days too. Couple days. Yeah. But it'll turn it'll turn brown with touches of manganesees. Yes, this is Lakeville. That that's what our water is. It's half iron and it's half manganese. That is very true. Anybody
else? So motion to close the hearing, issue our standard order of conditions. Don't see anything additional. notify the conservation agent when that's not our standard order. I'm just pointing it out. When
the pool is in Yeah. Yeah. The first first couple of swims. Yeah. When when the move start make sure it's okay. Second. All in favor? All right. I
Okay. I can't believe we finally got through all that. Thank you, James. I want to thank Niles, too. He was He was like, we were both like looked at it quite a few times. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Nancy, um my great uncle stick for the gift. A Do you know the
front of the house where the two trees are in the front? Okay. Do you know where the little like stone wall is? Okay. He wanted me to take that tree down. And I was like, "Absolutely not." What's What's the last name of Dick? Turner. Oh my god. Turner. Uncle Dick.
Well, I called him Uncle Dick my whole how many years? Like they say I know to this day. I miss him. I miss him. And I think Dick would know the answer to that. Or all the birds that are half alive and hot. Guess who gets all the
calls now? Oh. All right. Well, thank you so much everyone. Have a nice Turner. What a loss. Yeah. I used to say he knew the name of every pine tree. We got Eagles in the nest. Knew the names. Yeah. We're being next
week. Oh, are you? Yeah. Okay. Where are we? Mona Street. Continue, please. Yeah. All right. So I need a motion to continue three Mona Street till the 27th next meeting. Yep. Okay. So moved. 27th at 6:30 at the
police station. So moved. Second. All in favor? I. Okay. Oh, is this our first except ADU? I think so. I think so. Yep. All right. Once again, I don't have the I know this
house. Yeah, this is a pretty nice house. Yeah. I don't have the You got the ad? I hope so. Me, too. Which garage is he moving? Um the one to the left hand side of the house. Of the house. Okay. What's this? What's the acreage on the
property? Well, it's two lots. It's I I want to say it's like seven acres, something along those lines. Nancy, I'm not sure that I have the actual legal ad. I know that I know Jen put it in. I proofed it. I canot your phone. Can you
look up uh new mask week, please? Let me see if I can grab it. Oh, all right. Somebody can I'll read it. She had three. There wasn't an extra one anywhere, Mark. Huh? Um,
you gave me the ones that were highlighted. Yeah. Classified. We don't want obituaries. What do we want? Classified. All right. All right. Let's see. legal ads. John, I'm looking. I got it. I don't see
anything. You got it. Uh, week of May 1st. I don't even remember seeing that ad in the paper. Did it ever get run? Did you guys run it? Jen's usually really really good about that.
Yep. Right here. Got it. Yeah. Thank you. Let's hear for electronics. All right. According to the provisions of mask general laws chapter 131 section 40 of the wells protection act there will be a hearing on a notice of submitted by
William and Stephanie Stephanie Fuller for the proposed work including the relocation of an existing garage building and the construction of an accessory dwelling unit with associated utilities driveway grading and tree
removal within the 100t buffer zone to a well and resource area. Also included in this filing is the removal of a few trees near Long Pond that have been previously reviewed by the conservation agent. The location of the project is
225 and 227 County Street, Lakeville, map 37, block one, lot 6 and 6A. The public hearing be held on Tuesday, May 13th at 6:30 p.m. at the Lakeville Police Station, 323 Bedford Street, Lakeville. Thank you, Jamie.
Are you ready for me? Yep. All right. Well, good evening again, Jamie Besonette, Zenith Consulting Engineers. For the record, um, this is a filing with an ADU. Uh, some also some, uh, accessory work. We we listed some additional things. The removal of the or
the relocation of the garage. Um the garage is being located outside of the buffer zone. Uh the existing garage now uh was very close to the 100 foot buffer. Um just to I guess to get started, we did notify Natural Heritage.
We have not heard back. They are still within their 30-day window and we have not been issued a D file number yet. I know Joel was going to ask that. So, um I checked today, they had not they had not issued it as of this afternoon. So, uh that automatically means we'll have a
continuence, which is perfectly fine. Um this project does have to go in front of the Lakeville Planning Board because of the ADU. They do have a site plan process for the ADU. Uh that being said, this is uh a one-bedroom ADU uh that's going to have a garage and a garage in
front of it, a basement area, and a deck in the rear. Um you can see that we will have to do some grading and some disturbance in the 100 foot um where there's an existing garden and that existing uh garage building. Um some
asphalt will also be uh disturbed as well. I did sit down with the uh board of health agent and went over the approach for the septic system and for tying into the well. Uh there didn't seem to be much of a problem. we will be filing with them to ensure that
everything's covered on that end, but I believe the force man for the septic was outside of the buffer zone of the commission. Uh that being said, um unaware of the exact location of the trees. I'm told Mark did a sitewalk with uh the client's contractor and said just
include them into the notice. Um so that's why we added that into the description in the ad. And um oh the septic tank we're with the new septic tank uh with not with the the septic system we're keeping the existing
septic. We believe it will pass Title 5, but we're adding a filter uh into the tank which is in the backyard near the pool. That's not going to require any earth disturbing activity, but it is noted on the plan. So I figured I would show it with the with the commission. So you have the capacity in the Legion field for this extra. Well, so what
they're doing because this site is a zone A to a surface water and the pretty much the entire property is you have the 400T off of the pond on the pond side and then you have the wetland across the street which you have a 100 ft because this is a wetland bordering a tributary
to a surface water supply. So no septic within 400 ft your new construction and none within 100 ft. It really took up pretty much all the real estate. So, uh, what they're doing is they're modifying the floor plan inside the existing house to eliminate a bedroom and they're going
to take that bedroom and use it in the 80. What's the age on the septic system existing now? I want to say that it was either late 80s or early 90s. Okay. Yep. Still working fine. Yeah. Uh, it's it's
leeching pits with some tanks. And I always liked leeching pits. They were one of my favorites. Old style. Yes. Yeah. Not cess poolools but pits. I I just pits. Yeah. Yep. Question for you. Uh
identified you have a a page here. Uh anticipated summary of regulatory jurisdiction and the wetland number two the isolated wetland. Um and no how how big is that isolated wetland? Well it starts over here. It's on the adjacent
piece. And so yeah, when our wetland scientist went out, he he wasn't exactly sure what the wetland line was, but he did he did notice note it was in here. He does have a GPS which shows approximate and and he knew it's not jurisdictional. He knew Yeah, he knew to
not go any further until we surveyed it and located it in. So we did not determine the size, but he did say that it did not connect to anything. So is that isolated because of County Street? It's isol possibly possibly. Yep. There's nothing going
under the road there. I So Steve Schmeal's the person who delineated it. He is extremely thorough and diligent. Um he points out connections that I I didn't even notice. So I would be shocked if there was. I mean there is a
chance of it, but um I I doubt it. Okay. I didn't once when we surveyed I knew it was off the property so I didn't want to trespass and go digging around. I took his report for it. [Applause]
So, so when I went out on the property to take a look um and I and um with the contractor, I don't know if He took down the trees, but there's some discussion he was going to take them down. His concern was where they were
proposing to move the uh the existing garage. Mhm. And the trees they were interested in in in taking down. His question was, you know, is it within the buffer zone? Is it within the wetland there? So, yes, that's what I saw. Um,
so I drove by last week and saw that the trees in the front where this garage is being relocated to were cleared already. They were cut. Um, they are out of the buffer zone. Um, Mark, they did they walk you down near the pond? I did. And
there's two or three trees. It look uh one is I'm not an arborist, but it it appeared that you know it had the ant sawdust around it. And as the death sign. Yeah. Yeah. Um and then so I I
think there were two or three maybe four trees I saw that they were he had questions about. Yeah. So th those were the four trees that we included in this notice that they were troubled trees from what I was told and they they did the right thing. They called asked Mark
to come out um and we included it in the notice um here. But yeah, they did do some work down here. This is out of the buffer zone um in the front. I was a little surprised, but I understand they want to get going on this pouring a concrete floor for the
relocating garage or I would I would absolutely So, yes, I would on a slab. Yeah, he had it on a slab up here. On a slab up there as there was no It was meticulous. Yeah, it was Yeah, the it looked like you could
eat off the floor inside the garage. All right. So, we're looking for a continuence. Yeah, I definitely need a continuence for the file number and natural heritage. You have any butters here? No. All right. It looks like the 20. So, it looks like to the
29th of the month for Natural Heritage. Yeah. Let can we try for the what is it the Tuesday after Memorial Day the 27th? Yeah, let's try it. I'm gonna fingers crossed that we hear back from Natural Heritage. We know it's a gamble. So, board of health food
planning board natural heritage sent. Okay. So, um looking for a motion to and we need um D number. Yes. All right. Motion to continue 225 through 227 County Street to May 27th at
6:30 p.m. at the police station. So move second. All in favor? I I think that's it for me, right? Think so. You don't need me for nine cross. Um what are we talking about on nine
crossed? Amended order, right? Yeah. which I didn't see in the packet. I think I have it in that packet. Anyway, thanks Jamie. Thank you. Have a good night everybody. So, this is a save house.
Yes, a nice house. Save. Yeah, very fancy. What? That's Adam from uh Hackett Avenue. Yeah, we were first. I I wasn't aware the meeting could start at 7 anymore. Do we want to take them or can we
already did it? We voted to continue it cuz no one was here. Can we reopen? Any chance we sneak in? Um I don't think there's any reason we can't reopen to at least get some because we
had the questions, right? All right. So we voted to continue it to 527. So somebody needs to resend that. I make a motion to resend the continuence of 103 Hackett Avenue to
what was it? May 27th. Yeah. Second. Second. All in favor? I and our apologies for being late. Now we got turned up being late. There it is.
So we already read it into. So Mark, you're up again. How are you doing? What's going on, Mark? How are you? I'm good. So, um I guess I looked at um I had I had a
number of questions uh based on what um you you submitted in the uh RDA. Okay. And so that's uh you weren't here to to again to discuss. Um so there were there's a number of
um activities on on the uh the diagrams that you provided. Yes. That that aren't in the actual description of of the project. Okay. Which is and to install pave walkway down to the side of the
house. Correct. And then um in the patio in the to the patio. Yes. So, so I have a 300 square f foot patio going into the backyard. We have one 4x 28, I believe, walkway running parallel to the front of
the house. And then we have the 4ft walkway coming down the side of the house down to the 300 ft patio in the back. All right. And and that was one thing that I didn't have the the dimensions.
So, I have 480 square ft of walkway. It's 120 linear feet, 4 ft wide, and then I've got the 300 square ft going in the backyard. All right. Um, what's there now? Nothing. Stepping
stones, 2x2 stones. Uh, nothing where the patio is. Just long seats. Just long. Yep. existing one. It's fully grown in. You know, it's been there for years.
And it looks like it's about uh the this water side extent of the patio. It's about 12 ft 13 ft from from the pond there. Yeah. Yeah. 12 to 13 ft depending on where you measure. There's large
boulders lining the water's edge and um you know depending on where you measure from you're going to come 12 13 ft off. All right. Um and I guess there a couple other questions that came up for me. I'm just
looking at this this um was um there's some mention of new roof drains uh going into Stonewine trench and then also uh mention of a proposed addition which
both of those are are within the buffer zone. I don't know if those have been so both of those were previously completed. We just used the existing site plan that they had. So that that stone trench is actually coming right at the end of the driveway where the existing boat ramp
is. And then the existing addition is what would you call it? A 4x12 little addition that they had on. It's already it's an entry way into the structure. When he bought the house, it was already like that. All right. So all of that's
been All right. I just saw it on. So the only thing we're talking about is the patio and the walk. All I'm doing is I'm doing the the 300 square feet of patio in the back and then the walkways in the front and on the side. And we're going to be doing saw alongside all the walkways and everything. So everything
will be, you know, like you guys said, we're instantly cleaned up. No, how deep are you going to prep for the site? 10 in 10 to 12 tops, 6 to 8 in of crush stone, an inch of chip stone, and then using equipment, right? I'd like
I could use a walk behind if needed. Preferably, I'd get my mini in there, but if we had to for the sake of disturbing everything, we could switch to a walk behind. Make life a lot easier. Would certainly help me, you know, I'll tell you that. Beat the wheelbarrow any day,
that's for sure. So, what where does the paved driveway I'm worried about percent coverage on this? I don't see that the size of a lot, but there's a lot of coverage here, and we're trying to get away from that on Long Pawn. So you got a existing pave
driveway in the front of the house when it says existing gravel. So where does the pavement start and the gravel begin? So there there actually isn't any gravel unless it's it might be underground. It's all paved area. No. So the pavement stops at the corner of the
house. Everything from the house to the pond is grass. There there's no pavement. The boat ramp is grass. Yes. And then there's curbing lined up when it actually goes into the water. Granite curbing, but there's no okay driveway you could call it to get to the boat
ramp. And the pavers are what? Concrete. Concrete pavers. Regular concrete pavers. Did you look into permeable permeable pavers? We haven't. I've heard a lot of I've heard good and bad about them to be honest. I'm not
overly familiar with them. If it was something that you guys suggested, we could, but it's not something that I'm actually familiar with. So, this is all just concrete concrete. There's no like Well, it's concrete pavers. So, it it's
pavers just like around the Anything in between like what are they going to lay on? Uh crush stone crush stone aggregate underneath. And then is there any space in between? Polytric sand in between the concrete. So, we'll put some way for water to get through. Yeah, that's just
so important on if you want to live on long pond for a while and have it be healthy and not have parts of your lot wash away. That's what that's why you want infiltration slow and easy. Yes. And that's why percent coverage is
important, too, cuz the water just needs a place to go, not into the pond and bring all the stuff with it. So, that's what we're working against at this point in time. Although it's kind of like the app's already out of the bag, but um when somebody's doing something new, we
just want to make sure. Yeah. That they take that into account. Okay. Okay. And I guess my question moving forward with that would be is is what, you know, what what on my end are you looking for in regards to that? You know, is you mean on another project
going forward or No, even on this one, you know, I guess I'm asking what that what that really means. Well, you just answered it where as long as you're leaving spots where water can get through and it's not like a discontinuous, you know, doing a slab
slapping some bricks on top of it. Up for debate. Probably not a concrete fire pit. Probably he's thinking just set by fire pit, put it up on a mobile one. Doesn't really matter. If you want to put in a concrete one, you could.
So, um I'm assuming I'm just back to the the diagram that I had I was uh so the the open porch has already been installed. Is that from a previous correct? Right. I I in terms of going forward, it's
just, you know, I understand you're trying to use the site plans, but keep in mind, you know, I'm looking I'm looking at the disc. Yeah. I've only had ownership for four four to five months. So, I haven't really done anything to the structure. This is really just kind of upgrading the yard a little bit.
Totally. I'm just more We've had a lot of these maps tonight like you you went and got it from somewhere else. We're only going to look at what you're writing in your description. Okay. And we've had trouble with that in the past. That's why we
like to verify that. You know, that that one's on me now. because it's only what you you know cuz sometimes people especially on notices of intent they'll put oh we're going to put in a septic system and then they failed to say oh there's the well is on
the map that's included has like a little well on it it's the size of a head of a pin you know to that point when I first moved in I I was given these prints that were so small you couldn't even read the the thing so I went to uh board of health as uh just to
get the large original prints So I could actually rate them then I you're doing exactly what it says here. Yeah. Okay. So we're looking for Mark uh negative
negative determination. Um so we're looking for a motion to close the hearing and issue a negative three determination. Do they need any uh with um consultation? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you got to put up a sil fence. Yeah. Yeah,
absolutely. Yep. So, uh let's see. And and call get that in first. Call Mark to come out and look at it before you start. Okay. All right. Perfect. Install silk fence and call for an inspection. Yep. And is that something the same day
it's inspected, we're good to go? Like if I throw it up tomorrow morning, as long as he approves it. Cool. Well, you got to wait till you get your permit. I mean, you're at your own risk. If you start, you're at your own risk because it might take her a couple of days to get the permit out. But if you
um she can call you, you can come pick it up. If you wait for it to come in the mail, it might be a while, but call the office and say you want to pick it up. She is who? Say again. And she is Lori, our secretary. Lorie Kennedy. And yeah, you've talked a lot. Cute little stone
building over there. So, you made you made the motions. So, moved. Okay. Yeah, I believe that's something. It just rolls off my Oh, no. Okay. Is this a common for people now? Yeah. I always
some type of infiltration. Yeah. You pick up too. It's much easier. They get really elaborate. Go online and look at it. All right, Mark. We need to move on. You guys are all set. Thank you. Good luck it guys. Have
a good night. Good night here. Thanks for coming in. Yeah. Thank you. Even though you're late or early as the case may be. Okay. Um 28 Precinct Street. It did. The ad didn't get in the paper.
I was just going to say we don't even have the ad for that, right? No, we don't. So, um motion. I'm looking for a motion to continue 28 Precinct Street. be a busy night to to Well, do we even have to? Cuz we didn't open it. No. So,
I don't think we even have to continue, but we'll just put it on again next week. It's already continued. Does it say continue? No. Yeah. Continue to 52725. Yeah. 28 Precinct Street. Yep. Yeah. It's not on
my It says it on 160 Bettford Street, too. Let's see. What do you have? The old version. She added it to this other one. Well, you know, I didn't look at the new one because when it's revised, it's in yellow. So, she just added it on. I'm going for my agenda
from before she gave this new one. Okay. So, we don't have to vote to continue it. It's just somebody tells us it's continued. We didn't open it. We didn't open it. We didn't open it. It's been sitting there for So, we're not going to open 160 Bedford Street either. No.
Right. No. No. No. New Beth 160 Bedford Street's already opened. Well, it has been open. Has been open for months. So, do we have to vote to continue that? Um, I'm getting there. I'm just curious cuz it says it here. It's continued. Right.
So, that Lor's just adding that so that people don't make a trip down here. Okay. Okay. Um, like I say, I got you. All right. So, she did not have to do it on 28. Well, somebody might be interested that, you know, it's kind of a technicality,
but we didn't open it. So, I don't think there's anything to continue because it was never opened. I'm just explaining it didn't get in the paper. Didn't get opened. It'll be on our next agenda. All right. If it's not in the paper, we can't open it, right? No sent out. No. Yes. Right. All right.
So 160 Bedford Street um is I need a motion to continue 160 Bedford Street. So moved. Thank you. To to 52725 at the police station at 6:30 p.m. Okay. Second. Second. All in favor? I.
We've been going so smoothly. What's happening here? It's all It's all coming down at 5:27 up. Plus, isn't there a site visit on Friday to 160 Bedford Street? Well, we're trying to get a site in. Maybe I can't. I'm out of Yeah, I saw your your
thing. I think they might not be, which is another story. Do it another day. It might be another day, but it might be Friday. So, yeah, we'll have to see. Make sure all the stars line up. My My response to that one was depending I'll be there depending upon
weather and how I'm healing from the dental surgery of the previous day. Yeah, I would just say no, I can't make it. You never know. You are a die hard. Nine Cross Street. One second. Back to that 160. Uh is a couple of campers for sale there. Is that the same property I'm
talking about? Yes. Yes. Does he is there a selling permit there or something? I doubt that very much. Yeah. Well, that's not in our That's not our preview right now. No, no, no. We got a long way to go on that one. Okay. So nine cross street
um on January 30th when Brandon Fanouth was our consultant on this one. So he had he wrote the order of conditions. So in the order of conditions he had called for a separate deed restriction. And so on
January 30th, they sent an email to say, "Can you please send this to sound council ASAP so that we can move it along?" Well, up until like last week, nothing's come back. Period. So, I went back and decided made an
executive decision to do an amended order of conditions and just include it like we always do as a regular condition that no more than 5,000 ft of fill because they're filling 4,99 Anyway, so and it will just simply say
no more than 5,000 square ft of fill will be allowed on this property or no further fill period. You know what are they going to go fill five more feet? I don't know. Anyway, no fill will be allowed. It's on here. You can read it and and I'm fine with that. My only
issue was doing a deed restriction without a lawyer. Deed restriction you get without a lawyer because it was a separate Well, because it's a legal thing. Yeah. So now it's just in the regular order conditions and it will be re-recorded on the certificate of compliance. I can't do any more fill on that land because they've maxed
themselves out. Do we need to vote make make a motion to we need a motion to amend the order of conditions for 19292 for 9 Cross Street. So moved.
Second. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Done. Not done. Oh my god. Not done. Yeah. Joe's got his thing. And now it will be up to Mark to He's going to be right on top of the wetland replication because that should
have been started already. If it's not started by June 6 or June 1st, this year wouldn't count towards that two years. So, Yep. So, trying to I know they're working on it. They're out there. Yeah. I've I've been up. Well,
they're working on a house. They need to get hopping on that. And we need to amend our orders of conditions to say that that should be further along on the replication because there's no way to make sure that replication gets done and
if the house is all done. Well, they can't sell it without compliance. We're not going to give them one till it's done. So, well, how do we know they're going to sell it? I mean, they could be building it and move in and it never gets done. Well, that's true. Okay. Do we have any
We don't have any enforcement. No leverage. I've already shut them down how many times? Three times. And they just keep on going and then we go and tell them stop and then they keep on going. And so, okay.
Okay. So, minutes. Joe make a motion that we accept the minutes of the town of Lakeville's conservation commission meeting for February 25th, 2025 as presented to us. Second. All in favor? I
Yes. Motion to adjurnn. I second. All in favor? I. So we got some autographs to sign.