[Music] all right Peter any announcements I have none okay we have no minutes to approve so one and two will be done and we're going to go to number four discuss and vote to approve Park
commission FY 26 budget we did talk about this at the last meeting um we think we've made some corrections uh we met again and Melissa we didn't put your yours in yet until we
discuss it so do you want to talk about how you wanted to change this again sure um this this next budget does not include the $17,500 from the select board to keep it
Town residents only so since that's been removed I think we need to decrease the salaries of the lifeguards and auxiliary people because because that 175 has to come
from somewhere and I mean I when I did it today I took out $122,000 and that's um closed for two weeks or an hour and a half a day and even if that doesn't end up happening like it needs to show in the budget that
we lost that 175 so the operating budget can't go as normal that has to show a loss all right so that's just in a labor portion of it I took it out of the park Department hourly wages for
guards and auxiliary staff got it and I added it back into the repairs and maintenance for buildings and grounds because um as we'll see further down we have a $113,000 roof that we have to pay for okay so
that leaves us where after that move same thing as long as you take the same amount of money from like guards on auxiliary and put it into grounds of Maintenance it should even out Melissa you said 12,000 out of out of this right
what did you say at 12,000 out of lifeguards and if you keep auxiliary at 7,000 that should work that should be fine and then just add the 12,000 to the repairs and maintenance got it and that'll give us what's the final
numbers um well the final final number will be the same at the 313 right okay 550 just moving stuff and that way if we don't end up having to do that and come up with other
ways then that's fine but if we do they're prepared for it you never know we could get two weeks worth of rain we could and I think that's what happened in 2024 because the 2024 numbers were
lower and I think that was the wet year yep I remember it was bad um okay Carrie any other thoughts uh no that makes sense to
me okay Melissa you want to make a motion I motion to accept the fiscal year 2026 Park commission budget with the change in the lifeguards and the repair and maintenance for grounds and buildings
second do we need to put those numbers in as what you said or just it doesn't matter I'll put them in the minutes you have that okay Carrie we have a second yes you did okay sorry all in favor I I
motion passed thank you everyone for their assistance in this budget um I know we just voted on it and that's fine but I did have a question on it there's um in the office supplies there's $3,000 for two new computers
we're getting two new computers Peter uh first of all um we need a new one for the parks office because the uh support for Windows 10 is ending and the
computer that we have does not support uh Windows 11 okay and we're and we're also going to need a new computer for the uh clearon Park your the old computer that doesn't work he doesn't do spreadsheets like he
won't be able to do a spreadsheet on there well if it's going to be online uh I think uh Bob's going to want it to have Windows 11 for so that it could be have the proper security up dates so
forth okay I was just curious It's possible we might be able to find uh another uh less expensive way to do it but that's why we put it in the budget okay thought it was you thought it was
extra paper clips that's a lot of paper clips yeah I know but economy the extra jumbo ones the little dogs out okay we're gonna go to number five discuss some possible vote on request for new roof for Park
office so this is um this is for our Capital that comes out of our retained earnings this isn't money from the town something we do every year and um I think we put 15K on
this in our budget uh Peter went out and got a quote for 138 Peter do you want to discuss a little bit more about this or do people have questions about this um well just to explain I just just to get a ballpark figure of what this would
cost I asked uh Waterman Roofing to come and take a look and they were very quick about coming and uh he said uh first of all I asked whether it could be either repair or replacement he looked at it he said there's two uh two
layers of shingles on the roof and he said that they can't do a repair when there's two set of shingles on the roof so the whole thing needs to uh the whole thing needs to be reshingled and uh so he gave me a a
basic quote for that which is $9,800 but he also added uh another $4,000 in the event that the uh whole roof needs to be resheathed so the the maximum would be
roughly about uh $1,400 $14,000 14,000 yes I'm sorry that's okay just a big difference there yeah um it just doesn't say prevailing wage so we'll just double check with him I already spoke with him about that and he understands that it might go up a little
bit but not a whole lot no I would you know so in other words for budgeting purposes I would think but again this is for a quoted right now with a you know
30 days who knows what in 6 months or whatever when we might get this done what the cost of materials might be so I don't know how much you want to budget for it like you know but 15 or 16,000 well we that $122,000 we just put
in repairs and maintenance should cover the majority of it um sorry question wouldn't the in wage kind of largely impact the price not if he pays his people
enough okay I mean we can always raise it like I said this is uh coming out of if everything works out well comes out of our retained earnings so um if this does go through we got to
get two more names have them come out take a look at it and then we get two other quotes So anyone want to make a motion on this um what are we motioning for are we gonna that we're going to fix the roof
that we're going to fix the roof with Waterman for 9800 or we're going to do it in the future like what's what are you looking for here I'm looking I'm looking to um I I can't hear I I thought
we couldn't go to Just motion for one contractor until we had three bids this this isn't a motion to vote on this bid it's a motion to approve approving the
15K for that we're putting in for retained earnings to to pay for a project which will cost us at a minimum of $15,000 so happen so we're just saying we are approving this
if we have the money for it then we'll go ahead and do it but we also have to get two more bids so we're not a we're only approving the project but not with a certain person right and where it's coming from so this
is going to come out of our Capital fund for next year got it y got it yep okay so that that's all I'm looking for so then if everything works out audit's done you got it and we can just go ahead and do it just get do we have another
Capital project coming out for next year or is this it this is it okay well this is the only one from our budget our Capital project all right um I vote to put in a capital project for a new roof for the park Commission office for
$115,000 into the fiscal year 26 budget second clarifying question well second then we'll discuss okay second okay any
discussion just clarifying that it's a maximum of [Music] 15,000 um well that's what we're going to take from the our retained earnings and put into the budget so okay it could be more it could be less we'll just have to eat it out of our budget one way or
the other that's just what we're moving over okay all in favor I I motion passes review possible vote on Lakeville mix martial arts contract did everybody get a
copy yes okay so um this is actually passed its it ended February 28 28 so it ends tomorrow tomorrow um The Last Time Peter you gave me the information that I was at
475 and then three years later we increased it to 725 that correct yes yes okay so I was looking at this and a couple things I'm not saying
bother me but I think should be corrected is that being this is a a rental building um just like Lon Pond pays for their uh Heating and so forth the
utilities uh they've never done this so we have been absorbing their utility costs I know the propane cost for I mean the the furnace heat run on propane uh so and then we use it also
for the maintenance building but the maintenance building doesn't use heat or that much air I don't think but they do use electric but I I'm wonder I'm thinking that I really think that we need to put in the
contract that they have to pay a portion of their utilities because that goes up every year and as that goes up if we don't increase this then it's going to cost us more money and less Revenue yeah great I actually have that underlined on
mine as well the only problem is I don't believe there's extra meters well just like that's why I think we just come up with a formula like we do with everything else with the other
Leakes right it it's harder because we don't know how much El heat and electricity one uses or the other one so how are you going to decide that well then I think the real easy thing to do is is cost us $1,500 a year we'll just split it and
say you have to pay an extra 75 bucks a month and just put that in there and we can say that includes all utilities now but I don't think it's fair to have because like anything else they could leave the air on all night they can leave the lights on all night and that's
not something that we should fully absorb and the other thing is um another reason I want to raise it is I want to take out the the thing where they take care of the bathrooms and everything that's I don't I think it has that's
opposite because I underlined that because it's under the um lenser isn't the lenser is the town agrees to maintain the structure of the building including all outdoor
restrooms there's nothing in the license e obligation to clean take take care of the restrooms only in the licensers my down one second because that was part of the deal
we had with them as you know they'll take care of it let me see yeah that's what I would always heard but then this is the first time I want to say that I've seen this cuz last time it went right through the right to the town
yeah just give me a moment to review because that was part of the reason from what I understand we gave him a discount does he have a bathroom in his his bathroom is shared is the one in the middle between um the maintenance the maintenance guys sh that so they have
that just that one bathroom inside yeah or they use the one outside or they use the outsides but in the winter they can't use the outsides because they're not there yeah they do that but um so my point being because it was never locked
last year it was never cleaned last year so um so it said license s so really in as far as the contract goes they're not responsible at all just us
right okay so we would have to add that under the lenses obligations I I don't want to do that because they don't do it and who's gon to watch them it was always open in the morning it was always a thing so what are we gonna go chase after them no I don't know just just
give me your thoughts but but there's nothing holding them to it now if it's not in the contract now right to me to me oh no it there was like a a handshake kind of a thing right so you could always um do like a fee if it's not
clean right bet who's gonna chase that you guys want to go down there all the time well no it's not going down there all the time it's just if we get calls saying the bathroom's gross the bathroom's gross but my point being is that I think it's easier to give them a
flat fee total for for like I said any part of the utilities and plus we're going to take care of the bathrooms and the toilet paper and everything like that um because we do
that indoors too so I don't know I I just think what's the fee to clean the bathrooms well the porta potties are easy because the portapotty company takes care of the B takes care of Porta we have to pay for the supp supplies and
we got to we always paid for the supplies even though he took care of it we paid for the supplies we got to pay for someone to clean it now you got to pay for somebody to clean it right Bob used to do that I don't think Bob does that anymore he did when he came in on a
Thursday or Friday night but so my my point is is that can I just ask a point of clarification here sure for the notes you said there's a bathroom inside is that the one that you're talking about both
both the outside bathrooms and the office bathroom I mean it's it is what it is it looks like it looks like one of those bathrooms in a gas station yeah it's just a single use just
a single use um so you know so we're talking about if now did anyone have any thoughts on an increase before we go further well you're gonna have to if you're gonna contal services
and stuff somehow we have to pay for that yeah we have to increase it it's just the question is how much right because this has to last three years so are we against an increase the first second and third year
like go up a ladder on each one say all right it's 50 here 70 I'm whatever it is or do you just want to do it at the same shot is it easier for them I'm just kind of put it up there because thing is the utilities separate we pay for the utilities we pay for
everything talked about splitting it so would that be a separate fee or you're trying to Encompass this revised fee yeah I I don't like Melissa's right It's just tough to figure out but we we do know how much we pay for the maintenance building so just pay put in our head
it's an extra $70 a month that's what Peter came out with, 1400 something a year so if we just put an extra $7 a month that would help paying for half of the utilities so that's the utilities what do you think for the janitor
is well we first have to look at so it's um it's mik yeah just to be clear the Heat is400 $1,428 $2,639 all right I'm sorry you you really broke up on the last thing I
couldn't hear you he said the um electric was like $2,000 and the heat was $1,400 I didn't hear a thing so okay so we're talking about it's $3,400 to heat air
whatever the place and we're we're absorbing all of that including um the karate studio and like I said we don't do that for Lon Pond anymore um I just think they need to absorb half of it and that'll be their
increase because that's more money for us obviously if we do that um any comments or I think that's the end of the increase if we're going to hire a company to clean the bathroom somehow we need to pay for that right well we don't
hire company we'll probably just hire a person yeah it'll be a part-time person like Bob e is okay like a retired person like he did he comes in on the weekends and he used to come in on Saturdays and clean it but yeah like maybe a Wednesday night
and a Friday night or something so it's clean uh that's in our budget that's in our budget this year we just kept that person there he also do Ed to other things a little painting here a little whatever right um so all right so if we
did that on the Utility side what was that total amount then 3,400 well if you did $3,200 that's $100 a month so they're so you're saying their portion would be $100 a month yes right
because that would be 1,200 whatever so then their monthly would go from 725 to 825 it's a little more than $100 a month a little I would do at least $875 that's
$150 more okay than he's paying now didn't it it went from 475 to 725 I thought it was 700 to 725 no I don't know Peter gave me that I couldn't find it I looked for this because on the back it's dated
January 9th 2023 so nine months after his last contract expired is when he signed his new contract yep and I couldn't find it in our notes anywhere well I think regardless of what it was before I don't think we can afford another
three years of no increase doesn't make sense no that don't make sense at all I mean go ahead go go rent an apartment see if they don't increase it for three years well even I assume that we also do
is trash Oh we take care of everything yeah I mean obviously if you know we spent $1,500 fixing his furnace and stuff but that's our job so I personally kind of think it should be like a
ladder um an increas e g yeah because everything going up inflation everything so I don't think the utilities are going to stay stagnant at whatever it was $1600 half for the year so if you do 150 the first
year I don't know what it maybe then it goes to like 200 and then 250 oh you're not going to be allowed to walk by that building how about how about a suggestion how about just just
to tie it to reality what how if you just a percentage like one third of the of the cost of the heat and electricity and then then and then I
could invoice them for that just like I do for LOM Pon Lodge I I think I think the goal here is to make it as simple as possible whether is or would no I'm saying like Carrie said it's 100 150 200
that that includes everything heat electric person cleaning the bathrooms whatever it is so they don't have to worry about paying a percentage or you got to deal with that thing I just think that it needs to step up which will include what we just discussed
any thoughts Melissa on that don't you think that's cleaner just to say you pay 1 150 175 whatever I I do but it's it's a crapshoot right because you can do that
and our utilities stay the same or you can charge them the extra $150 or $175 and then the 30% charge on top of that either way I like it who knows no I I'm
10,000 uh so we either come up with a lump sum to include everything or we divide it into just the rental of the building and then a percentage of the of the utilities
every month is that what you're thinking yeah I mean I'm okay doing it whichever way I yeah I I am as well um I don't know if you can answer this question but do you think there will be push back where the format has never
been like will it be easier if we just say your rent is increasing to XYZ versus saying well now we have a new format your rent is this and oh now you're going to pay a percentage of the utilities well I the only reason I agree with that is because as Melissa said
there's really no separate meter so he's going to say well that these guys are using these machines they're doing whatever and you know so it it's it's kind of like the the dumpster situation was or yeah whatever who does it I I just my recommendation is clean just
here this covers because as it is in the contract we're supposed to carry that um and it says in there that we're supposed to pay for the utilities so if we're supposed to do that and costs are going up well we're raising it 150 or 200
because all of the cost expenses to run this building have gone up great that's our explanation to them that's it right and other tenant pays their own electric and heat we have we now have a precedent for
a town we have a pre set a flat we're agreeing on a flat number for three or are you doing the lad well I I mean one you make less money on one you don't
so first we have to come up to me we have to figure out where do we want to be at the end of the third year right but we also have like a long-standing tenant that we don't want to scare out the door right yeah but
but okay yes and no I mean it's gotten to the point now that we can't continue to be Mr Nice Guy right right we're starting to get crushed here right I agree and I don't think he will but if he does then we got somewhere else the
rent or whatever we don't want it to go he's but we're not we're not losing money on him because it doesn't like we're not we don't have to pay anything else we just do the Heat the electricity the trash the bathrooms like so he's so
we make a little bit on him well but you remember after expenses we're probably gonna he's part of the septic issue and he's we are going to need a new F furnace up there sooner than later it's in crappy shape that's got to come out of this and that's separate than the maintenance
building right so that unit if it goes does not affect maintenance but we'll have to put out money for that so we need money to cover those costs okay years went between when it was 475 to a 725 jump three it's a three-year
contract three years okay so it was 2020 to 2023 to 2026 is that what it is or it's every three years it's 2022 to 2025 so it'll be
2028 got it so 2028 who knows I just like to get somewhat covered so all right so if we were to do
uh should we just do a fee starting year one or step it up 1 150 200 any thoughts on that it probably easier to swallow well yeah ask for the step and then if the select board comes back and says no we don't want to do that we'll just give
them the flat fee in the middle just do the $200 well the select board is just going to do the contract for us they're allowed they're they're letting us do what they want to do being that the money is ours fact
they said that we should increase it so the only way they're involved is that we're going to give this back to the town manager they're going to have Town Council change it then the select board will approve it okay from what I'm told so if we were to
go the step it's at 7:25 so what would this year where would you put this year and that we're in right now starting the new year would you go up well the $150 goes to $875 right so we'd go
$875 925 then 975 it just seems like a lot of money the last time you went up 475 to 725 that's 250 right right but the prior to us going up from that it was been it
was 475 for like 10 years prior to that so it was a longer period than the three oh yeah but then he he got the benefit of the doubt for getting that I mean he he used to be in the old Lon Pond Lodge for
years U and I don't even know what what he paid then so I don't know sometimes we can just do the the uh rip off the Band-Aid approach and say here this is what it is for the three years instead of Chinese water
torture um so just say better honestly if [Music] you then you're going to know in year one are they like fine with this or they're not and then you look at getting a new
tenant I listen I I it's so his for his total for the building right now is 8,700 a month 8700 a year a year 725 a month that's
not a lot of money to have with with utilities then us taking care of the building bathrooms I mean that's just good luck and like I said we love having him but I'm sorry I we I think
we've got gotten to the point in our lives or in our parks that we can't be Mr Nice Guy anymore and it's not like we're doubling it no and everything has the electric has gone through the roof and so is the heating this month I just signed them in
the office of $300 for the heating last month yep so yeah all right so if we went up what the heat doesn't is not on the maintenance side right so really in
both but didn't you say there were two furnaces there's the furnace that's above martial arts it's a separate entity does it have its own nozzle to feed we only got one bill for them right
Peter one maintenance bill for the propane can't hear them Peter your mic's off uh that's correct there's one the entire building both electricity and gas that's what I thought have been smart if we put up another meter over there
but well it's not just the meter right it I guess you could put one down the end but it would have to come out of the tank because the maintenance side has a blower yep yeah it was in there nice it was nice right so which is obviously
separate so all right so we did a we did a 15 % increase how much is that well it's 725 so 15% would be 72 plus 36 under
eight so that would be a $1,200 increase a year y so to me it's also the percentage we're giving you a 15% I mean got understand that's over three years that's a 5% increase right but it's not you have to
put in that we're um that we're paying the utilities too utilities are included main everything so let's go around the table and see what we're thinking and then we can make a
motion Melissa I think the 152 250 is fine and if it's not he'll let us know right and then maybe we can work they can renegotiate the contract if they have to if he can't do this but you said one 152 nope 152
250 because the $100 doesn't even pay for um the electric nothing good luck Carrie I'm sticking with the step of 150 to 250 and Melissa you said that too but
we're on age her and I okay all right let's make a motion you want to do the motion this steps Carrie I I make a motion to uh increase the rent uh for the Leal martial art mixed
martial arts in a for the next threeyear contract period in a Ste tiered increase of $150 the first year $200 the second year and $250 the third year which is
all inclusive of utilities the H works and bathrooms yep all right I second do roll call vote Melissa I terrie I Michael Smith I all right Peter
you got all that yep let's figure that out and then on Tuesday we'll get together um I just had one more question on this and it was just um did we confirm his hours do we he have the same hours that he had three years ago no no
we didn't confirm so the hours of operation it has 12: to 10 Monday through Friday and 8:00 a.m. to 5: pm on Saturdays and nothing on Sundays I don't think he has anything on Sundays still need to confirm his
schedule okay because that's when he's allowed to use the premises I agree all right and we got that done next updating new light poles for John pwn Park talking to Paul KNE they're going
to start going up next week so I'm gathering with the electric going in that by guessing third week of March all the poles new poles will be put in with the
electric and so forth so I told him just go ahead just to clarify so they identified a replacement light and were able to get that yes okay yeah we had that in the first
place okay found one but we wanted to make sure because it was a different wattage and we said don't worry about it right and they're able to preserve the ones on the poles that are being replaced yep we're just getting new poles the lights and everything so like
I said going to cost 12 to 13k or whatever and do about the um the mounting whatever it's called the mounting brackets that were wood are we changing those or yeah he's putting metal on them okay cool on
all of them on the ones that were changing yes yeah sounds good hold on okay next um discuss some possible vote on sorry capital request for fencing for
Clear Pond Melissa and I met with Mr Mali last week I don't remember last Monday on the really really cold day that's right we almost fell we both did so what we did
Carrie I saw it you emailed it over yeah no I'm just talking about what we were thinking of doing and how we wanted to do it is being that we're spending all this money on the park with water and hopefully get money to do the project
that Melissa is working in that our fence is is useless it's old it's laying down security is horrible on it so we asked for him to give us a quote to go from you've been down there obviously so
the gates that you went there we're g to put new gates there and then the fence is going to go along Clear Pond and then it's going to cut in where the basketball court is and then it's going to go up to the left to of the new
road that we put in and then at the end of that there's going to be another double gate and it's going to go all the way down 79 until there's a slope down is that correct yes okay so um if you
look at he's doing a six foot high commercial grade fence um with the 124 and the 212 double wide Gates it's going to go exactly where I think we need it it's not perfect I mean
it's not going to cover all the way around but it's going to cover the big spots um I do think we have to still put no trespassing signs on it but that's for another time but we looked at doing this before but it was cost prohibitive so we have a capital
expenditures meeting coming up middle of March this is money coming from free cash for the town that the town uses other departments DPW buys equipment bu new ambulance whatever
comes out of there so we're putting in this whatever we decide to put in we're going to vote on at the capital expenditures committee for the Parks Commission to have this money okay from
what I understand there's there's enough money for this and I know that they were very positive about clear plan and I think they understand why we need the fence this is a really only other chance to get it unless we wait another year but I think
that's dumb so before going forward Melissa if you look at this this 98 um do we would put any extra stuff in there if there's any Landscaping issues or fre work there shouldn't be any Landscaping issues there's um then there
were two figures right one was $115,000 less than the other because one was galvanized and the other one was black I mean I think they both last the same amount of time don't they yeah so we might as well just do the cheaper one
maybe and maybe do some of the other side with that $155,000 because right now it covers three sides it doesn't cover the side at the end through the woods so maybe if we just went in 20t in the woods so whoever's carrying their kayaks down
have to like travel through the woods and around the fence to make it a little harder or they're ice fishing supplies no I I do understand that I mean that's a nice Trek for them but um so this when you were talking about
the fencing this this thing here obviously is the high commercial with the galvanized and then there's the all black so you're saying go all galvanized and then use the extra 15 to put more fence to cover where the kayakers is
that what you're saying yeah just cover down the side so they can't just walk around the fence and go down Okay so we're just yep we're not adding anything we're just we're we're keeping the same amount amount money yes right I would
why not see what happens so okay my other issue is are we comfortable going in with 100 Grand 100 five grand because I I need to fill out a form to pass it in Monday well that's the price for this year right so you
have to at least put in 10% for inflation if we're not doing it till next year well no it would get done soon as it gets approved right but when is that July 1 yeah so that's six months
away five months away yeah but meaning oh you talking fiscal year calendar year you were saying to get it done this je like if the price goes up and you have to add 10% in case the price goes up in the next six months when it before it's
done but Carrie has a question okay I'm sorry got a few so just to clarify the gentleman told you that the black H does not it has the same longevity as galvanized yes I believe
so so I think we should verify that okay and then does this include the 98k that includes it's prevailing wage yes yes yes he does all of our work
okay um all right is that it those were easy they were easy because I asked you last time I'll ask again just for the record like this is the perimeter so there's no it wouldn't get damaged like there's no reason why we should delay it until
after the other work is done right yeah cuz they he's got um two one 25 foot gate at the entrance and two 15 foot Gates other on each end so there should be no problems getting equipment or
anything that needs to get in there in there yeah so I'll say I agree I think we should add some money for inflation given that it's six months from now who knows about right ifs or whatever might be coming by then um and then I personally
think we should go for whatever the more conservative was I think we should go with the black pricing wise for budgeting and then confirm and if they say hey you're going to get the life expectancy is another I don't know 10 15 years years
right go with that and yes plan for I mean it's not coming out of our pocket so that we can take money from somewhere else so I I think going the higher is better yeah so we would go with if the all
black is better we would go with 100 100 and then add 10% so we're looking 110 Grand okay yes I agree and um hopefully the we'll get to it later but hopefully
the plan will be done for clearon before we do before the July 1 so if there's needs to be an extra gate or something somewhere else to let the truck s in would be able to finagle yep that or hold off on part
of it or you know um all right motion um I motion to ask the capital committee to use free cash for Clear Pond Park spening for three sides for
$110,000 second any discussion all in favor I I I Peter all set thanks guys that's great never thought that would could possibly just because we voted it it doesn't mean that
it's gonna go we voted it once before well at least I get a vote all right so next Melissa update on down tree and damage at Clear Pond Park um all yours status quo it's still there um I don't
think we're going to take anything down until well I'm going to have the tree guy come out and look at everything but we're going to have to take more trees down when the clear Pon thing is done
X plan is done so I'm not going to bring them out twice so we'll wait a little bit isn't our concern is the condition of the other trees that they may have to come down anyway yeah they'll probably come down anyway but why bring them out to take those trees down and then have
to bring them back out to take down other trees but the idea is to get this done before we open obviously oh yeah we don't open till June it'll be done before okay we open it I talked to olivary um we have we only have to pay
the first five grand of this accident so 5,000 deductible will cover the additional all right so to replace the roof on The Snack Shack they're going to cover we cover the first five grand they'll cover the rest yeah that won't obviously as far as the
trees go whatever that's separate which is good news yeah that's surprising yeah it's it's on I guess there's a should ask a copy there's a huge list of stuff that's covered for parks and what isn't as far as buildings go town
buildings so it's probably good to get a copy of that yeah certainly not a storage yet but no nope okay um okay Peter
next you want to go over the applications yeah we have a few applications um be right back go ahead so the first one is from uh pre-own Lakeville Athletic
Association that's for Ted Williams so you should have a copy of that Matt uh gave me their updated schedule which I've included in here so
uh we did ask him about uh I sent him an email asking him about the Lakeville What's that name of that Cardinals Cardinals he responded and said that they uh practice and play all their
games in is it a kushit Freetown town and uh so what what is our what's our recourse we go down there and they're playing like they did before um well we'll have to take
pictures and then ask ask if they have Peter's little pass they don't have the pass and obviously they have to leave but then we can't go down over time and kick him out with a pass so listen I'm not judging
either way but we hear stories of right them playing there and they say they don't so that's got to be figured out and uh you're right I think if they don't have a pass for that field at that
time then they're going to have to leave right and then they're gonna have to start paying if they want them down there right yeah so I don't think there's any recourse for right now I think it's just we're gonna have to keep our eyes
out because if he sees it right or then it's got to be happening more than once for him to notice like that he's not go ahead yeah I mean you asked me Mike I can't verify for recent years my son my son hasn't played for them in several
years at this point but I mean my son played games and had practice there again it could totally change but um yeah I don't think it was like a one-time thing for that gentleman to say something
right and I know I know we go through this every year and it's usually on soccer but this year I did the um hours that they use our Fields because they have taken every daylight hour on every one of our
Fields all season from April to November like that's just it's not just like with soccer it's not right but at least soccer is paying per person these pay guys are paying a flat fee right so that was my next thing
so they have 87 Field hours per week for 33 weeks is 2,871 Field hours that comes out to a dollar a doar and five cents per field
hour not per child per field hour to use our fields that there's just something wrong with that and they're empty all the time and they're empty all the time so if they want to reserve all these fields for all these hours they need to pay by
hour or by player like the other leaks well that was the other thing they have it says they have 300 players times $25 for our fee that's $7,500 and that's per
season right so if they have that same amount of players for both Seasons That's $155,000 how much what's their flat fee three grand Peter you brought that up before he's every year we go through this right Peter Peter even did like a whole
calculation schedule so I mean there's nothing we can do about it this year but we I think we need to put them unnoticed because I agree saying guys going forward you're gonna have to pay per
person that's all yeah we have to treat them the same as all the other leagues right because when they signed that contract we were supposed to be their backup like it wasn't a everyday every daylight hour from all spring till
fall was only when they needed it do we have to approve this schedule now it's their application so I don't think so but I thought at that meeting didn't we say your schedule needed to be specific and Mike you said it can't be
all day seven days a week they had to narrow it down and they didn't they did not we say we need this cut down by so many hours because 4:30 to 7:30 235 I think we just put it out
realistically and say look you're on notice for next year that you need to go to per player fee to be Equitable with the other leagues in town and it like we're doing this at a hit to the parks and in order to
supplement that we need to make some of the field time available to other leagues that will come in and pay yeah that would be perfect I mean conceivably if you look at this the citizens of Lille can't play on those fields
no not that they'll be down there but by contract they could put up a sign saying sorry we have a permit for this field don't use you know they can put up a sign don't use field six we just put new grass in or whatever
where technically they can't do that so is there any forget the cost is there any recourse on their schedule saying hey this is just too broad yeah we cannot approve this and tell them to narrow it down yeah this is glad you brought that
up Melissa this just is not acceptable maybe they take Monday Wednesday Friday Saturday and leave Tuesdays and Thursdays out for somebody else they have to what if we have another League that wants to come in hey I want it for two
nights a week that's the age-old question isn't it yep all right so how did we out of curiosity how did we get with Samurai the guy just called around for field use Samurai has been here
forever yeah no I yeah I'm just wondering how it happened like how would we get another one just coincidentally someone's calling around looking for Open Fields no different than flag football right yeah or we put it out there saying we have these fields maybe
if we took one field away from baseball we could redo it and get it to be decent or let's shoot for good and then it'll draw leagues in because like Elite leagues aren't going to use our Fields they Ken uses his because he's taking
care of it for all this time all our other fields need to be overhauled right but we can't do it on what they pay us right all right so as far as F laa someone to make a
motion I can do well what do you think the right recourse is like how much time do you take away from them because keep in mind soccer's up too they also have every daylight hour but did soccer amend it like for our
meeting that day where we okay they Rec they took both well they took commissioner Fields so that's the two big fields and then they took from the police station parking lot to the maintenance building that big long area at the
top another field or two I mean I I agree with you 100% but it's not comparing apples Apples because these guys are paying nothing right but we were taking the money out of it right what do you mean I'm sorry you
said we were discussing it without the money like the money side no but when you brought up saying like soccer I mean if if these people were paying double or triple we wouldn't have this discussion would we well probably I think we need
to have this discussion because we have other leagues in town who are paying double they're paying a per player fee I'm not I mean I'm not advocating for soccer or softball but that's how they do it so it costs them a lot more yeah I mean the other people we do with
this volleyball they're never here and we get so that's a good thing but Melissa says they live down here and uh so so if we look at this it says Monday 4:30 to
7:30 for field 4:30 to 7:30 so what what will we cut here or is this I think you have to do it by days as mosa suggested because I mean most times someone's going to hold a practice a coach it's
probably going to be two hours and you only have so many limited daylight hours and you can't tell like for Youth Sports you can't say oh it's the middle of the day the kids are in school so that 4:30 to 7:30 is effectively the usable hours of the field before you hit duck so they
either need to give up two days or two Fields yeah well I think the point is is that they play their games in freet toown but you're right they still have fields that they're not using no which is blocking right they play their Cardinals game in
Freetown is what he told you so flaa is effectively like the recreational League of baseball for Freetown and Lakeville they're playing games there and practicing there at Ted Williams That's didn't look busy this year that's all no it hasn't it was
busier this year than it has been but it I mean it was dead okay let's go back to what we're saying someone gonna make a motion saying to approve this application the kep applications approved I'll make an I'll make a motion to approve the 2025
application for fla with the ex with the addition that they need to give up Tuesdays and Thursdays or Fields two and three or two fields or two days for the
season so they're gonna all right let me start over I'll make a motion to give flaa two fields on Sunday through Saturday or four Fields Sunday Monday
Wednesday Friday and Saturday on all but Tuesday and Thursday and if they want those fields what's the remedy I don't know the answer to that if they come back and say what's it going to take for us to use those those
fields will have to come up with something so is the uh purpose of this is first putting a shot across the ball letting them know next year they're going to pay per person and then trying to open up the fields for something else
or to yeah to open to open the fields yeah because they all everybody complains about the fees well the only way they're not going to have increased fees is if we have more people in here paying that's the only way or we can just say listen we need so many
days open with so many fields open you can decide what fields and what those days are but they have to equal to what we want put it in their hands four Fields one two three four five fields on Tuesday and Thursday so that's 10 Fields
a week but does it matter what days they are let let them decide what days 10 fields for three hours that's it doesn't say what days or whatever no I don't right at this point I really don't care so we need 10 fields for three hours
open Monday Sunday through Saturday yep okay you want to make that motion I motion to approve the 2025 fla Field Time usage form providing they give up 10 hours a
week 10 Field hours per week that get it all we approve the contract minus 10 hours per week they just 10 hours per week they can figure out what days what fields or whatever yep as long as it equals and
they submit the new schedule right with that car any thoughts first off is there a second and then we'll discuss just do we need to be more specific with the SEC the 10 hours like what like do
we need to say it's split between two Fields I mean what if they come back and say oh we'll we'll give up field 3 and it's open from 8:00 am to 7:30 p.m. so that's got it has to be between 4:30 and 7:30 they're giving up the hours they
registered for okay as long as that's clear yeah yeah they're not going to say oh it's open at 7 in the morning this doesn't work all right do you second that y second any
discussion all in favor hi hi see how it goes good luck Peter and and Peter you might want to just mention to them too as a note the fees their fee structure will be examined for next year yes
nothing decided this year thanks Peter okay next on the agenda review possible vone application for Samurai baseball Peter again you have the application in
your packet and uh pretty straight forward same as uh mostly the same as uh previous years so because I did it for flaa I felt the need to do it for everybody so
f um Samurai baseball pays 13 hours a week for 16 weeks that's 208 Field hours that comes to $721 per hour to use the fields but that's all I vote I motion to
accept Samurai baseball's 2025 application for Field Time second any discussion all in favor I N opposed all right
[Music] next that it was my dog review impossible vote application Court time for free Town Lake soccer club Peter once again can't
hear have the application in your packet and Friday 4mm am to 9M and they're looking then a large area on the okay unfortunately I only heard every third word Peter just said I heard
every 15th word I wonder I don't have noide what the problem is I'm sorry there you go because you're closer to your microphone um so they asked for Commissioners field I assume that's both Fields yes
both at least the large area at Ted Williams Camp between the police station and the MMA building correct so on that the back area near Samurai is left open for a flag football
yes and whole back area Okay so there's no issues there my issue is because I know we discussed this before Scott had a meeting with him two nights ago he sent me a note
um I guess my issue was oh crap you guys still see me yes you're good hold on we can see you we can hear see you and hear you good
so the I don't understand Saturday 7 AM to 900 p.m well because they don't play that late um either anyway a problem because
doesn't woman soccer play as well separately yeah women women is not an issue okay because they played separate Fields they play two teams up T and one so it worked out really well but my only issue is at
7 AM to 900 PM um I don't know what they do till 9 pm there's no they have their travel games no uh that field should be open so here's the deal when I talked to Chris
about black football he said yeah I mean after 12 one o00 we don't do anything so and then we heard something different from that woman didn't we yes so um that's where I'm confused here
now I wish Scott was here because Scott had a meeting with him um when start like can we voting on this one yeah I think that um it's the same thing as flaa right they have Monday
through Friday 4: to 9: Saturday they have 14 hours 7:00 a.m. to 900 p.m. and Sunday's 7 hours 7: a.m. to 2: p.m. I have no problems with all the days except for the end date on Saturday why it's
900m so that's that's my issue with this contract everything else I understand they have practices no problem but the field should be open I I think if we're gonna go to baseball and say you need to free this
up because of having your does soccer doesn't pay a per player or they do they do do okay and and and and they actually used all the fields it isn't like they leave it open you go down there Monday through Friday there's people playing all the
time okay well I don't think anybody should be on them at 9900 pm at night that's like a safety problem there's no lighting right no I think it's more just to it's for the summer yeah yeah could be 8:30 30 could be eight I don't know
but so they play 26 hours a week on three Fields that's 78 hours a week so that's 1170 Field hours that's $4.70 per field hour you should work for
Doge fired you're fired you're fired well I think that issue I think the issue right now is I think when you go to next year and figure out stuff I think are valid numbers you're coming up with I just brought this up that I would
change well they did the same thing to us last year last year they came in and said oh we don't play on Sundays we only play on Saturdays and then they came in and they were like oh no we need Sundays so they need to decide what they want
they can't have 14 hours on Saturday that's just not right like I said I with you 100% on that the other days I don't have a problem with it's that Sunday but my my major concern
was when is flag football Saturdays in the afternoon what about the other Camp is that that when is that that's through April vacation right yeah that's not that's no issue there they can play that's not an issue
but I mean I think we need to decide what our end goal is like we don't need to decide that now well we can decide we can talk about an end goal well I meaning like if end
goal is to leave some space on the field to bring in other income sources through other leagues or clinics or camps we're losing that opportunity I think they need to narrow this down a little bit better yeah I
mean well the good news is is we actually did bring someone else in with flag football right and if we um Eric Stanley brings in the other football camp that's two new things yeah which we have the room for which we have the room
for which is great but I guess I had two questions one is we have to narrow this 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. if it's 7:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. it's 78 to 4 p.m. whatever it is would be perfect that gives all afternoon for everybody else yeah all weekend well technically yeah
well we'll talk yeah I was going to bring up something up we don't have to do this on this meeting so my only concern before was is what this other woman said where she says well no we need the fields from this to this
so and they say they start March 10th yes they're usually out there March 1st well that's not going to happen because they're not going to be on commissioner field for a long
time so they're primarily going to be playing up until that water recedes and everything like that well I think what we should do is uh make a motion to approve this
contract uh upon having further discussion on the Saturday hours and narrow them down that's what I yeah I'm not motioning that I yeah that's very open-ended I think we need to go into it if we're gonna amend it we need to have
an idea of what we want it to be all right well and I would vote if you said to you know with the exception of amending the hours from 7 a.m. to 2: p.m. if that's what you decide or something like that but I I don't think
we can put the ball back in their court and say it passed no because that's what we did last time and then they came back and they're like no we need Sunday and we just said all right here's Sunday so we're gonna tell them they can have Saturday 7 to 2 and they're going to be like no we need it till 9: and we're
just going to give them it till 9: because that's what we do but like I said I wish Scott was here because he had all this discussion with him right so back to my original question when is our next meeting Peter not going to be the
20th well we we need to discuss that later but originally is scheduled for March 13th but uh I'm not going to be a I'm not going to be available March 13 now I'm going have to do it March 20th and then the first week of April
before uh the I think we need we need are you available before that the week before that Peter yes I I think what we really should do I mean I I we're not going to say no to soccer we're not going to turn them
down I'm saying not vote until we talk to Scott or soccer that's why one person should not be having these talks with these teams like this or he should have sent you his
notes yeah I know he's been busy uh well I what's the 10th day of the week is is that the following Saturday when is the 10th it's March 10th what 10th March 10 it's a mon it's a Monday isn't it 10th is a
Monday yeah yes the second starts the second week in March well the only thing think that we're concerned about is the Saturday basically we're not concerned about during the week or Sunday well I don't love it but it's fun but it is it
is two weeks before their season so it's pretty hard but however we sat there and specifically asked them for specific fields and specific times and to narrow it down and they gave us every field every daylight hour
see my issue is not getting the information in time it's getting everyone together to vote but that's why we asked them to turn it in like don't to asked we've put it in here we've done everything that we can
do but we why I think when we go back like we're going back to baseball we have to have some guard rail of what what's the end game we want Saturday to end I agree PM or we want it to end at 4:
or I I think we're just going to run into the problem if we just put the ball back in their Court like Melissa said well this is what we need well I just the reason I'm saying this is because it is March 27th they start March 10th is is
that we come up with something saying uh now we approve this application um we we approve the application it is but
but but we want to know we want a tighter time on Saturdays and Sundays What fields are they going to play on at what time because it is open-ended it doesn't say 7 AM 2 pm commissioner's field there's
an upfield because if you look on the top it just says they've crossed they've marked out Ted and Commissioners which is great right but we really need to tidy this up a little more so I I don't want to say no you can't play until this
tidy is up I would say go ahead and then but but but before the 10th we want to see this you understand that otherwise we're going to run around with our heads cut off over something that's not that major there's no way
we're gonna get together my motion to accept um who am I accepting Freetown Lakeville United soccer club's 2025 application for field time with the addition of specific Fields with
specific times being used and Saturdays limited to 7 am. to 2 p.m I don't like the last one which part don't you like I agree with everything but the limit to s8m too I mean if they legally need it
till four that's great that's seven hours on three Fields that's 21 teams they only have 18 teams they should be able to fit 21 teams but they're all you know they're all different ages you know the story with soccer they're our
biggest League they've been here forever what I don't want to do is fight over two or three hours but we're going to prove it based that you're going to give us the tightening of this whatever I'm not saying tightening we want to know what
Fields you're using at what time that's it if you need it from 7 a.m. to 4 tell us what fields and the time if you don't then you can't have it from this time to this time all right so is there a second to my motion
I'm not second I don't know like the 2m that's kind of like the middle of the afternoon they might have game scheduled till 4 or something I don't know experience with soccer my kids didn't play soccer so I have no idea about game times
but I don't so that that all I want them to do the hard stop of 2 p.m hard but um I don't think I don't agree with what you're saying Mike I'm sorry but I think
if you go back to them and just say oh you need to tighten this up I mean that's like me telling you like you know oh go buy a car don't spend too much money like you have to have an endgame in mind is it reduce a certain number of hours over the
week but my point is if they've been using it till 4 p.m. on Saturday why are we taking away two hours then four well that's that's my point isot on this tonight if we can't put a guard rail on it like we're approving
something but then asking them out of the goodness of their heart to come backwards on something we already approved well no all I'm asking is is that is that we approve everything we just need justification of your time on Saturdays of What fields what teams and
what times so if they come back and say we need it Saturday till 9:00 p.m. like we said you're you're going to accept that and be okay with that they have to show us what teams are playing what time their games are playing they may say oh we don't need it 9 we only need it till
four but for them to to prove that time they got to show us they need it till 9: they need it till four they just got to show us why they needed to four they needed to six they just got to show that that's all I'm saying the guard wh is that they're
showing us why they need it and who's playing them they can show us that that's our guard rail okay so then can we add a sentence that says we will adjust the end time based on the justification yes so my motion failed because it didn't get a second so
you can motion whatever you want okay so I motion that we accept the application from Freetown Lakeville United soccer with the exception that
the times on on Saturday need to be justified and if the justification does not support that full duration the times need to be adjusted makes sense to me all they have
to do is say yeah we need it to for because these teams play I need to six the team then that's it that's great then they're actually using it we don't want Fields being unused right so do you understand my point if they come back and say look here's my schedule these teams are playing till
I'm good with only point was that if they come back and say hey we just need it till 9 like no uh a lot you know they have to they have to show us why they need it till nine they have to show us why they need it till six okay and then it's a
contract so then my only addition to it is we need to add change the hours to support to match the justification right if it is 7:00 am. to 9:00 p.m. for whatever reason we leave it if it's 7: a.m. to 4 then we change the hours okay but if they have a game
at 7:30 at night or noon and then a game at 7:30 at night that's not cool because then you got six hours in the middle or if they have one game every five hours you know what I'm saying like if they only have three games on Saturday
and they're just spread out that's not going to work either so that's generally not the case but I also don't want to go down there running around to say why are you using this field and not that field because they can't around depending on
the condition of the fields and that's just too much work all I'm asking for is that they they can have whatever hours they want on Saturday as long as it's Justified and they show us what teams are playing at what time okay so second car's motion second car's
motion discussion could I bring something up here before you vote on this um and just as going back to something that uh harri said earlier and raised the question that uh you know particularly early in the
season 9:00 at night is late and it's not a safe time for people to be out on the fields I wonder if this should be modified to say that they have the they should have they have it until 9 o' or DUS whichever comes
earlier T is so what did you say Mike I hate using the word dusk it's a very specific time because you could look it up um sunset sunset sunset sunset's
fine I don't know I just think that all right so we'll vote on this and then add the addendum is that how that works sure seconded it discussion's over roll call
vote Melissa I Carrie I I okay and I will call them tomorrow and let them know what's happening so maybe we're gonna change 9900 P PM till dusk I don't think we need to um vote for that
right it's just another it's it's the hours of the uh Park well sure we need a gatekeeper um you pay for that yeah I'll
sign we have karate for that hold on one second wa on blooper ball so pain meds kicking in no I put my thing down okay review imposs vot application to Field
Court time for coed blooper ball Peter please you yep you've got the applica you've got can you hear me this time I hear you perfectly okay you've got the application they're looking for a field one at John Pond Park Tuesdays Thursdays
at Fridays from 600 p.m. to 10 p.m. and that is beginning in July July 8th to November 14th blo Co blooper ball has one of our smallest leagues and they have the
highest per field hour fee of $781 just so everybody knows she's driving a Tesla now I don't drive a Tesla I would never drive a Tesla even before I wouldn't drive a Tesla um I motion to accept coed blooper
Ball's application as stated second second any discussion all in favor hi hi are we missing other applications here some we've already
approved Peter are we is everyone else been approved well there are some more to come in but people aren't necessarily playing for a while but we've got quite a few and we've got this is uh yeah we're in pretty good shape at the moment I just got an I just got an
application in uh yesterday from uh Freel Lake use softball so that'll be on the agenda for the next the next meeting and women's Bluer ball doesn't start till later they don't start until June
usually got it um sorry point on any future applications before we vote on them given what we said tonight about raining things in should we maybe ask people to do that before you vote on it if they
haven't so maybe softball Peter if their application came in and you look at it and it says the same maybe we asked them to narrow it down so they don't have to wait till weeks and then we say narrow it down right softballs softball always presents a very specific
schedule okay great yeah I mean like I said if if they if the teams are playing at that time I don't have any issues and softball's been really good about that all right did we make a motion in
second yes so everything's done okay discuss some possible vote on request from Next Level Sports for reduction in per player fee for flag football Peter you want to talk about that um I sent you a copy of an email
that I got got from from coach coach rig and basically uh he just asked if he he wanted he says I I wanted to check if there's any flexibility in the price per player as a startup program launching for the first time in town we want to ensure the cost don't become a barrier
to successfully operating and making this opportunity accessible to families so I just told them we would uh present it I put it on the agenda and so there it is uh I did say to Mike I mean
there is a a precedent for leagues that are starting up or trying to get going to giving them a little break at the beginning so it's not an unreasonable request and what was that last precedent well we did it for for example
um last year with uh oh what's the name of no no uh the pick a ball at Cornerstone really kind of gave them a g gave them a break so that they could see what they
could do to get started so so that's what I was thinking of for a president and well and what was that half what was that well it they didn't even know what their numbers were we just gave it to them for a flat fee uh uh I think it was
$200 they had one night per week for right two months or something like that and they didn't know how to many people people they were going to have so we just said let's just give us $200 and let's call it even we had a um a fitness lady also wanted to come in I don't know
if it was last year the year before and we had given her a half price right but she never came um what is coach rig's hours do you know off the top of your head is it Saturday afternoons one day yeah sat yeah Saturday is just four it's three or
four hours on Saturday afternoons four one to four and I just a I guess a clarifying from our meeting with him so yes it's new to our town into our Fields but he previously hosted this in Taunton right so it's I thought
but doesn't matter sorry it's not a brand new league that has never had players and when he talked to us he kind of had an idea of how many kids he thought would be in the program well yeah he's got one going in Bridgewater and he's got one going in
midboro right I I personally don't think we should do a flat fee where we're trying to get away from that with other leagues yeah I don't think we should do a flat Fe well he's not asking for a flat fee he's just asking for a potential possible reduction in the per player rate I'm against that because we're
going to do that with any new league that comes in and say the same thing and uh Second and we're we're kind of raising a lot of stuff this year uh leagues went up we just did something with uh karate I mean we're
we're looking it's nice if these things work out well but you know that's that's going to be up to them to charge their people but we could have lacrosse come in another flag football come in and then you know I I I appreciate that they
want to come here but I was another League I'd be upset saying wait a minute you know that's I don't think that's fair they're using the same time in the same Fields same hours so that's my
thought yeah I don't know if we can use that argument because they're paying $25 a person for three hours a week where other teams are paying $25 a person for 80 hours a week
so um I'd be open to saying $20 for the first year or first season the first time so then I guess clarifying question that that might be somewhat precedent setting so are we willing to accept a you new
leagues get a first year $5 per player discount well we've had it's not really a precedent because like Peter said we've given new people coming in trying it out discounts every time but so I think if
we're end game is trying get the fields more used and bring in some fees we should have it shouldn't be like on a caseby casee basis we should have some type of process established what
kind of is if they ask they kind they got it well this is different knocking off $ five dollar versus I thought you said the previous one was half off it is but I don't want to give I don't want to do half off because that's a lot I agree I don't think we should but I think we
should come up with what is going to be so if we had a as a not just particular to this league like percentage like $5 off of 25 comes out to whatever percentage right
right but um see this is where things get fuzzy for me because this is a giant League Soccer is a giant League Baseball's a giant league softball is a giant League horses shoes it's kind of a giant League but volleyball has 15 players that's not a giant League the
pickle ball people 10 players not a giant League like and even I don't think there should be one structure for big leagues little leagues because it's their expenses are different their times are different the whole thing even when we talked to Fran the middleb parks
person he said you can't just have one fee structure and that's what we've always had was one fee structure so I don't think a pick a ball team that wants to come in and we try charge them a flat fee of $200 versus a giant League that wants to come in and we just give
them $5 off maybe you want to say any giant leagues coming in we can give them $5 do off for their first session that's fine but I don't think it can be blanket so you're saying go ahead that I think that's another uh
guard rail that for 26 when we're establishing fees we look at and we say for any League that has under I don't know what the magic number is 20 players or whatever the magic number is maybe they can pay a flat fee
that's what you all do with horseshoes right like or volleyball whoever it was um and that's how it we need to set like a process right like yep we weed out the flat fee of I'm sorry you have 300
players we're losing profit off of that right like right and then I think you can have right for your on that's per player you have whatever the percentage is and then if they have 300 players you know it's all equivalent to
the number of players they have versus $5 off total so say you have a new league coming in with Coach he's gonna say oh only got 30 players and I'm only playing three hours you know on a Saturday okay great then
you have another one come in another flag football team same thing 30 something people just three hours but they want to do it three days a week four days a week did you give them a discount and if you have a group of a 100 coming in who
wants to play lacrosse do you give them the discount I the thing is is that we're just finding ways of of losing money seriously but we can't we're we're not for profit we're we're losing money
for every discount we give everything it's up to the person who wants to make it work to make it work it's not our job to make it work it's not our job to say all right hey you can come in and you know you'll get
a $5 discount and things like that I I don't think that we need to do that um I think the issues with Coach rig is you got a better deal because it's the town's it's the schools fields so the school obviously gives them a better
rate and that's up to the the the towns and the school or whatever but we're just not in that position I just think to to cause all this I mean believe me there's going to be some ups and downs of what we're discussing tonight I promise you that and now we're just
throwing another flame on the fire saying well we got this guy he's going to get a break can't afford breaks anymore we can't and if we're going to go to that new guard rail of doing with baseball and things like that we can't be putting up the expectations saying
you're going to pay more but the other end of it well not you or figure out not you or percentage just 25 what it is that's what it is you want to come here that's your rate if if you want to go 12 months then you're going to pay you know
three sessions or whatever it just it's just a moving Target and I think it's just too much work and it's and it's too much uh too many issues that could come up out of it how long is coach rig's season do you remember it's got one in
the spring and in the fall so there's no summer action it's just like all the other leagues he plays for four months I think it's three months it's uh when's he start April May June I think it's April May June and then September October maybe
November so you know and what if that blossoms what if what happens if wow he gets 150 kids in the fall then what do you do the discount would only be for this first try but all right I mean I I don't care but I don't want
to lose them over five dollar I I don't think you're gonna lose this is between you and me well and everybody listening so like two other people okay Peter close your ears um I just think because it's A Hard Road for
him even though I I love the ideas because there's already an established flag football that's got over a hundred kids okay Saturdays everybody knows each other they love their coaches it's a big deal if you ever go down there um and
now you got someone else thinking of I mean Eric is think of starting to do it in Taunton which is fine but I think to recruit Lakeville kids is going to be really hard the first two or three or maybe he can't even do it and I don't
think the issue is going to be the five dollar I just think issue is is what his audience is going to be and you know it's up to him I mean he he should be talking to that person now the person who's got the league and say Hey listen I got this why don't you join our league
come over and I can we can offer a lot more so I think he's got some roadblocks which I understand I think he's a great guy but I I don't I don't believe in breaks not now not with what we're looking at maybe shutting down Clear
Pond a day or two and I think every dollar counts but that's me I said my piece so I'm I'm fine with that my only thing is it needs to be consistent so if we're going with that it just needs to be a hard line of even
though we had a president in the past we're in different time and the next League that asked for it can't have it either well yeah that's why I think the the karate studio was a past precedent well we don't have that past precedent anymore now we we are you're paying for
for utilities it's in your thing all of that we it's just like I said it's going to be get harder and harder as this economy gets worse and worse and things get up higher people can't afford to maybe put their kids in softball or soccer and things are falling apart we
every dollar is so important to this Parks very important so so does anyone have we making a motion are we doing anything why don't you motion this one right I need my glasses
need your glasses to make a motion I make a motion that we do not make a reduction in the per player fee for Next Level Sports flag football for this upcoming 2025
season there a second I'll second second okay discussion real call vote Melissa hi I'm okay with
it Gary hi I'm I Peter All Eyes okayy Peter another fun one for you boy you're gonna have to go on Witness Protection Program I can bring you cupcakes next week Peter to make you uh
feel better okay old new business um we I didn't tell you about Clear Pond Park so tomorrow we're well we're not I'm opening the Clear Pond
Park to the Zenith Consulting engineering firm right here in Lakeville they're GNA come and Survey Clear Pond Park because they've been working on it um Sabrina's been working with them so they're going to survey it to get all the numbers and stuff that they
need perfect perfect then we can put that on the next agenda yes and then um I do have something else for the next agenda um it's new business Peter got a phone call today a message and he folded
it to me um Gordon McKay Mary Beth McKay do you know her so her husband um they brought a um a circus here like 10 years ago with elephants and this whole circus thing so he has the opportunity to bring
in a carnival the first week in May so that's something that he's going to send me an email with some more details that I'll forward to you guys and I'll send you all the stuff I have because we talked today I'll send that to you so you can have all questions and
stuff for him so that on our next meeting we can invite him and he can propose it and we can make a decision um I asked him what the downside is for us like why I would say no to this and he's like there really isn't a downside because you don't put out any money or
anything and all the expenses come off the top of anything we make so well the immediate thing for me is with carnivals is a lot of traffic so not traffic cars I'm just talking foot traffic so you'd have to
figure out where the carnival would go well he already has um the new Fields the commissioner's Fields parking lot the one on the right would be where the carnival went and it has foods and rides and games like 10 to 12 and then the parking would
be on the left side is that a one day thing it's um Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday 4 day thing well good luck with that so um yeah that's good find out the
information have them come in always open to anything uh any other old business new business uh yeah just following up on old business that is new business so
regarding the cameras at Ted Williams so we asked for the quote to be revised um and so now it it added an fourth stationary camera that is solely focused on the
playground um we removed the 360 uh camera because uh Robert at CC Tech kind of said why don't you start with the stationaries and see if this meets your need because he thought based on what we
were saying we were using them for that would suffice so we removed the more expensive 360 um therefore just the bracketing changed from on the roof to on the side of the building uh so it's all approved
signed uh within our budget um yeah it was below our budget actually he um so they're looking to get started on that uh soon here um he did ask me a follow on question about invoicing if
that continues with what he's done in the past with the other locations in town does it go to Tracy yeah he needs to deal with that with them we'll give him Tracy's number okay we're counting that the two issues there is is talking to Carrie and Robert
about this is let's let's put up what we have now let's make sure we get those stationary cameras let's go for a summer we decide we want to add to it add to it we got eight grand left in the account so maybe everyone goes oh we do need a
360 we need this my major concern was the stationary and the areas that we were concerned about so I think that's number one number two is is that Carri uh we did say that he's got to give you
notice because we need uh trench guy here to dig that trench at the same time they're doing it well and yes but we also before that we need to know about the tree trimming it's another thing
so and if Frank can't do that then we hire someone to do that since we have the money okay um was I gonna say where is this money was this arpa money or is this our money arpa arpa all right so it comes in it goes to Andrew actually and
you just write opera on it it can go to accounting but accounting has to kick it back down to Andrew to approve it and then he has to send it back up so if it just goes to Andrew it just CED out a STP yeah and we have to end right opera on it even if it comes into Parks we'll
just write Opera and kick it over yeah um do you know when that they going to call you like the couple days before it starts yeah he's gonna follow up with me text me call me all right
yeah Mike you can talk to Frank and talk to him about tree trimming I will and if he says you can do it great if not and I'll get someone else to do it well if not let me know and I'll South Coast here and Clancy's gonna do the trench is
he gonna do the trench for the soccer fields the new fields to run the electric and water at the same time so we can get that going well not it depends on when it's done it's way too wet down commissioner's field to do anything right now it soaked to the
bone so um the lines may not be run until the spring so did so we Peter and I put in the budget was they sending something hold
on okay um where was I oh about the uh about the power and the water uh you may have to wait to do that in the spring debating on the condition of the fields so Peter and I put in the budget to have a porter
party down there for the spring in case can't get done yeah in the handwashing station in the hand washing station so and just one and it has to be handicapped right y yep yep yep yep yep okay any other
issues all right next meeting dates uh Peter C make the 13th so I put in my head that we would do it the 20th and then the first Thursday of April the sixth is next week so it would be 20th of March three
weeks is too long what if we do it on the 13th and I just take notes I'm confused oh still have the meeting but you you take notes yeah all right that's fine because I I think the 20th
like this is our we got to get all these ducks in a row we can't push these and stuff off because it'll be recorded anyway right should be we have it at the uh do we have a room for that Peter COA right
yep COA is booked on the second and third fourth yep so yeah that makes sense so it'll be the 13th and the we're on 13th 27th yep I'm all in favor of making as few changes as
possible okay all right oh now on Facebook Okay so we're good with the meetings all right I motion to end the meeting the Lakeville Park commission meeting at 8:27 p.m. okay
all in favor I okay I'm going to disconnect from this meeting thanks everyone okay bye