[Music] and welcome to the Lakeville Parks Commission October 9th, 2025 meeting. Is there anybody besides Lake Cam recording hearing? None, we will start. Peter, any announcements? I have none.
See, we're we're working right through Noel. Okay. Review and vote to approve park commission minutes for September 25th. Did anybody find any errors, corrections, or omissions? I have just this one that I circled.
It's just it's supposed to be was instead of us. Looks like a autocorrect. That's actually what uh she wrote because I just cut and paste, but I will correct it for her. Anybody else um
find anything? No. A motion to accept a minutes? I'll second it. No. Any further discussion? All in favor? I I minutes are accepted. Okay.
Discuss a possible vote on request for event for Trifest. Um, did we receive a check from Trifest? Yes. And how do you remember off the top of your head how much that was? I can check very quickly because you said it was going to be less
this year than it was in the past. Trifest is our biggest activity and it used to bring in like $4,500. Oh, it was $4,600. $4,600. Yeah, I think it was about 5,000 last year. Okay. So, it's a little less. Um,
and I know they weren't going to use Loon Pond Lodge, but they decided to use Loon Pond Lodge this year. Um because Lun Pod Lodge wanted to charge us $2,000 for the money they lost by having Trifest. So hopefully we can work that
out before next year. So did everybody look over his application? It just says the 25th annual Cranberry Tri Fest is proposed for 82326. There are no planned changes to the race this year. Athletes will start and with a swim in Lon Pond, bike through
Lakeville and surrounding towns, and end with a run. It race starts at 7:30 in the morning, but they set up Friday morning. So, Friday and Saturday the park isn't used. So, then the race is 7:30 till like
noon. Is it the um you discuss it the same payment every year? Same. It was $8 this year. It was $8 this year. I think it was five in the past. And that's not interfering with anything
happening at the pond. Um, at Lon Pond Lodge. I thought you said Clear Pond. Oh, no. This is at Lon Pond Lodge. Yeah, they swim in Lon Pond. So, it would seem to me if there's
nothing happening there, right? is the thing with Lupon Lodge. They basically say that you miss out on a wedding and that's why they block because they can't use the parking lot
the Yeah. So Sunday the parking lot is full so they can't have an event on Sunday. On Friday and Saturday they say that um nobody wants to have a wedding there because the trifest racks and everything and the staging is all set
up. What are you thinking, Andrew? I can feel the wheels turning. Sorry, Peter. I just keep um Well, I mean, it's already It was five before. It's already went up to eight. Yep. So, um guess that kind of that kind of
cancel out the Did we pay? We did not. Okay. We said no. Just something to think about for next year. Okay. Good. The eight makes sense. So, keep it at the $8. You want a motion to let them have it
for $8? Yeah. Yeah. A motion to approve um 25th annual cranberry trifest um for 82326 at the $8 per head fee. Second it. Any further discussion?
Any questions? Anything? No. All in favor? I I motion passes. We will welcome try the 2010th annual Grimbury triest back. Okay. Discuss and possible vote on
request from Asawsa Elementary School to use Ted Williams parking lot for overflow parking on December 10th, April 8th, and May 20th. Those are all Wednesdays and they say 9:30 to 11:30. I'm assuming it's in the morning, so it
really shouldn't interfere with anything here. Correct. Should be fine. Yep. Anybody want a motion? I'll make a motion to approve swamps at school for free using that parking lot
from 9:30 to 11:30 on December 10th. December 10th. April 8th. April 8th and May 20th. Any second? I second. I just I just have Any discussion? Go ahead.
Yes, I have a notation there. It says May 20th, 2025. Is that Nope. I'm sure it means 2026. Little typo there. Okay. All right. Probably another paste. Okay. So,
all right. All in favor? I I all I Thank you for asking or letting us know as elementary school. We do appreciate knowing why there's all cars in the parking lot. Okay. Discuss and possible vote and
request for event short film at Ted Williams Camp from Matthew Shinny. Welcome, Matthew. Thanks for coming. No problem, guys. I totally wasn't already obliged to be
here. um really hope that I'm able to be seen in the frame, but um hello guys. Thank you for having me. You can sit here if you want. Um, I might just scooch around the corner
just because it was looking I can't tell if I'm in Okay, we have your Black Dog Productions short film workers. You want to tell us about that? Yeah, so um I can pull up my notes here.
Um, so Black Dog Productions is a small um independent film company that does a lot of stuff around um, Southshore, New England. Um, they typically give a lot of opportunities to people like myself
and other young aspiring filmmakers. A lot of them being like um, students um, who live around the area. They do a lot of um, short films like this. Uh the last one I did with them was spreading awareness on
um the subject of infertility. Um shed like just shedding light on that. Um so this film workers is a bit more of an intense film. Um it involves two women who are workers
and they're like struggling in their young life. Um, I have a bit of a plot synopsis here if you'd like me to go into it. Um, if you want to. Sure. Um, Audriana is a sharp uh sharp tongue
veteran and Stella a wideeyed newcomer. Um, they pose as escorts waiting for a client at the night in in the night. Um, but it's a setup. They're vigilantes um laying down pre uh bait for a predator. As the night unfolds, tension
brews between the two. Um our two protagonists clash. Um and they have a bit of a mentor and mentee relationship, but that begins to blur. The line between that begins to blur. Um their
target arrives, their plan goes wrong. Um but um it is a gritty, intimate and uh tightly wound film. Uh workers is a morally thorn chamber piece about trauma control and the theater of retribution.
And um I did talk to the director. I was like this is going to be at like a like the the place we're requesting to film is at a public park. Um, there isn't any shots planned that would really require
any graphic or real um any um any any graphic scenes whatsoever. It's just all kind of like preluded to. Um there's two location they'd like to film
in. One being a public bathroom, which I assume Ted Williams camp. Yeah. Um, which I figured there's probably a window at some point where the sun is up where there's not like a bunch of people trying to use that like at like 7 in the morning or something
maybe. Um, so that like there's probably a window where we wouldn't have to worry about pushing people or turning people away. Um, and then another location, the only other location would be um something that resembles like
um kind of like a rest stop at a at a highway. Um, so they wanted to frame like down towards like the they figured like a a wooded area down on the trail they'd be able to frame it to be kind of
like um the tree line on a rest stop. Um there's a couple details I have. Um
for one day would be like um their estimated shoot time was 10:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Um and then for day two would be 9:00 a.m. to 400 p.m.
Um day one would be at the trail. Um, and then day two would be at the bathroom. And then the 400 p.m. is like way overestimating how long they'd need it. But um, crew would be at tops 15. Um, no
trucks, very minimal gear, and um, would probably require about nine to 10 cars to transport the ideal crew. Okay. Um, what am I thinking? Does anybody have any questions?
It would be that's a Friday and a Saturday, right? So, that would be better if you could I mean, not to throw a wrench in anybody's thing, switch it so that the bathroom was Friday because nobody's going to be in the park in November on a Friday when all the kids
are in school. Yep. Um, sense but I mean if you can't then so the So which day would be ideal for the that would be better on Friday than a Saturday morning when I here I I did forget to mention but I do have
a note that um they I believe there they So what what do I what do you have down for the for the requested shooting dates? The 14th and the 15th. Okay. Um, so if they were to swap, it would be a lot more it would be a lot
easier. Like if we were to swap which locations we were trying to shoot, I would think so. Okay. I mean, like for Yeah. Like a Friday during the day is going to be just like less people. Yeah. Saturday. Okay. Using the bathroom. Yeah.
Isn't that what you said though? The first day has the bathroom and the second day. No, he said the first day was a trail. Um, yeah. Day one would be trail. Um oh bathroom and parking lot for day one trail for day two. So I said
okay you switched it Matthew. Darn it. It's all right. So that works out perfectly then. Um insurance. I assume that you he Black Dog Productions has insurance. Okay. So we need a COI
the town of Lakeville. We can get that for you as insured. Um, so what happens to this film, dare I ask? Um, it would be clipped into
um stuff for Instagram to generate um interest on it and then um it would also be dished out and sent to um film festivals around. Um for example, the another film that I was on with these
guys have has been a part of like 12 film festivals that was accepted. Um so yeah it it would be distributed in parts on Instagram and stuff like that and then um
mainly sent out towards film festivals. So is it kind of to build his portfolio? Um yeah. Uh and possibly like some sort like studios go and they look at film festival winners and they go oh this this is worth giving money. This is
not okay. We'll skip. So it's kind of that sort of deal. Um the other question I have is the water in the bathrooms get shut off. Do you need a functioning bathroom? Um, like as long as we don't go under
freezing, it should be fine. Yeah. But if we have a hard freeze coming November 14th, it could happen. The only thing I can think of is they might not need but like would like to be like,
oh, getting like water on your hands, right? But I don't think that is critical to the story whatsoever. So, um I I can leave like a tentative no on that. Like like I don't think we'll need water.
All right. So, just um you can check and let me know. Yeah. Because if I I have to ask the DPW to push as long as we don't have a cold freeze coming, then that's what we'll do. Could also find some way to make it look like there's water coming out of the faucet. Challenge us.
Okay. AI, I was thinking that same thing. Oh, no. He's going to outsource the DPW. Um, any other questions? I don't have any. Any questions for us? Um,
I don't think so. Um, no. Um, typically with these sort of things, it' be like what's the power levels like, but we're not planning on needing to plug into anything. So, um, that's good because we probably wouldn't Yeah.
Okay. Any long is here anyway. Do any motions, any thoughts, any what are you thinking? Um a motion to approve it. Thanks. Great. A second. Could also um easily organize some sort
of uh credits towards the town of Lakeville or the park commission like thanks for special thanks or something like that on that site. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Um, any other discussion? All in favor?
I. Okay. Looks like you have permission to do your movie. So, um, if you can get back to me and let us know about the water, about if I need we need to close off certain areas,
right? Because we'll have to put a notice up saying these bathrooms are not available from this time to this time on this date. And the same with wherever you want to shoot, like if the trail has to be closed, then that a sign needs to be put on the trail. Yeah. Um there because there would be
just concern with like um we wouldn't want like have like audio interruptions, I guess, to put it simply, right? Um yeah. So you can just let us know because we have a lot of dogs and stuff that walk the trails and some of them are up very early.
Yeah. Is so is there I guess I should have asked like um is there any sort of like um hurdle with that sort like would with that like getting some sort of like closed off area in the trails? No, we just have to put um we would put
like saw horses with a notice that says this trail will be closed from this time to this time on this date. Okay. All right. Um like if we can get it out like a week before. Yeah. Honestly, I don't want to take up too much time because like I I can text him and those questions and he'll
probably answer them before we leave. Just get them to Peter. Okay. Like tomorrow's whenever. Okay. As long as it's a week before so we can get it out. All right. Awesome. All right. Thank you. Good luck. All right. Thank you very much, guys. Thanks. Okay. Discuss impossible and request
from Courtney Being to add another evening to our outdoor classes at Ted Williams campus. she does the boot camp and she's already added one. So, that's great that Courtney's um program is taking off. We're glad that we can help her in that.
Friday evenings 5 to 6:30, I want to have dinner and go to bed. Do we need to vote on that or is it okay? We're just going to approve it. Well, it'll take two seconds to vote on it. Yeah. Okay. I vote to let Courtney out on another night. It's a motion.
Yes, she she said vote, but she means motion. Yeah, I'd like to make a motion. I'll second. Any more discussion? Discussion. All in favor? I I I Courtney can have her Friday nights
and good luck to all those who take her class on Friday nights. Review job posting for Clear Pond Park director. So, I went over it. And it doesn't seem bad like in duties
where it says this is a seasonal position consisting of 9 to 10 weeks summer employment. I think we should put a maximum of 10 weeks. It's it's a maximum 10 week position because we ended up paying 13 weeks this year.
So it needs to be clear that you're not getting extra. you'll get paid for what you work. The other comment that I had was in the general statement of duties on the second page where it says this is
a seasonal position consisting of a 9 to 10 work week yada yada yada and I I put to work with the parks commission on park improvement and increasing revenue. I think that's a a very salient condition. That's a good thing to add in
where you were reading and under the general statement of duties right at the top. Maybe increasing revenue probably doesn't I mean that's the ultimate goal but that doesn't sound very nice. Sounds to me.
What about increasing attendance? Is that better or should we just leave it at revenue? I don't think of revenue as a dirty word. I really don't. And um
attendance will follow. Okay. I don't think that's fine. And then I think it's within the job. It should be within the job description. Yeah. We've been tked that. We were t that
right? So the problems we had in the past were the computer input of daily records and account of fees, charges and revenue. Um we'll have the computer this year. So there's one that says they have to be literate in the computer
usage. So that there um supervised areas of the ground building safety equipment including grills, mini golf, basketball court, walking trail, raft, ad handicap parking and all flotation devices. That seemed like a lot, but like those things need
to be stressed, but I mean it's all there. Everything we need is there to to your point about the computer being utilized. I think you should also even it wouldn't even hurt to put it in the job description that
you want them to maintain Excel sheets like to maintain databases because those are really become valuable down the road for tracking expenses. All right. So, on the one that says computer input of daily records and
accounts of fees, charges, and revenue um input or you could say maintenance of of database updating the database because it's really easy to establish a database and they just add the data into it. Maintaining data, the database,
computer input, database maintenance. Yeah, up. You know, it isn't really even maintenance. It's just updates. It's updating. It's just plugging in numbers into the squares. Okay? Because if you don't assign this
position with that task, nobody's going to want to do it, right? Um, on the last page, the third one down, it says attends one monthly meeting with the parks commission for updates at Clear Pond. I think we need
to put at least one monthly meeting. That way, if we need more, we can ask for more. Does anybody else What else does anybody else want to add? I was also looking at it. Currently, we
were open 48 and a half hours per week, 11 to 5:30 Monday through Friday and 10 to 6 Saturday and Sunday. And this job is only 40 hours a week, otherwise they get overtime. So, I think we should hire an assistant director or whatever we put
as a um what Ashlin was this year, if we could hire somebody back for that position for the 10 hours that they can't work and one of them needs to be there at all times. Like, somebody's going to be in charge
and it shouldn't be a 15year-old kid, I think. So, 10-hour position for assistant director. Yeah, fill in on director's absence basically description in charge of all things that the director is
right. Okay, perfect. Do we want to sit on this and think about this till next meeting and then let it reminate ruminate and then vote on it next meeting or do you want to vote on it now? I think we should d write it in and
draft it and then vote on it after we have it. Okay. So, next time do we want to add something about um startup of the the pond? Sure. like start up and closing. Make sure it's ready for the season.
Absolutely. Um prepare. Yeah. Clear pond park before opening. For opening before opening
Okay. End of season overseas closure. Now, we'll have to do another once this is all done. We'll have to do something else that says exactly how that has to be done. Like the AEDs, um, we've had
two over there. I found one in the shed, so it would have died over the winter in the shed. And I found the other one in pieces in the office. So those AEDs need to go back to the office at Ted Williams camp. So things like that. So we'll have to come up with another sheet that says
all that like a closing procedure sheet. Yeah. Like they poop to nuts, the whole thing, right? Yeah. Okay. One little typo thing. Insure expenditures. S where is it? Um line
up from the bottom on the second page. Insure expenditures do not exceed. I will give you my call Peter. Y Okay. All right. Review job posting for clon back
director. Continue discussion for league fees for 2026. Um, now I know we said that we needed to look at what it costs. So right off the top we have a salary of let's just say about $50,000
for the salary. We have two portaotties and handwashing stations at two parks for $500 a month each. So that's $1,000 a month for 10 months. So that's $10,000 in portaotties. So we need $60,000 just to cover that.
Hey Scott, good thanks. How are you? Great. So, we'll never make all of the money back. What is that total? 60 $60,000 just like off the top because
the leagues pay right now they pay for their own electricity and their own water. And then you have little things like the sprinkler maintenance, but I didn't put that in. I just put those two big things in. And if you look at the league charges, it's $35,000.
So, not even close, which I mean is fine because it's a service. Services don't usually make much. But the closer we get to that number, the better off we are. knowing nothing about
what's reasonable for field charges and I mean nothing about it. I I spoke with just for the hell of it the treasurer there
and asked I just said what do you charge for soccer? Do they do their own like some towns do the whole program themselves and not just lease out their field? Is that what Borne does or does Borne just lease out their field?
The schools maintain the fields. The schools maintain the soccer fields and all of that. Are they at the school? Um, good question. I believe they're at the schools. I was
kind of more going for a number from him. And what they do is they charge $60 per player. And so how that would compare if you just took the soccer is it would total
$52,800. Right. But but is the town running the program or or is there a separate organization that runs the program? That's the question. Those are good questions. because we charge the kids $25 ahead and someone else does all the work
and they do all the work. I I would love to have someone more knowledgeable than Mwah ask him these questions. He was he was very forthcoming and very helpful. Yeah. And um what he impressed I mean I have no dog in this. I don't
No, I understand. just but I and I like to I like to get input from from people. Yeah, the next question I would say is do they get money from the town? That's another good question. That's a huge question that I I think it would be wonderful if
someone like you could ask these questions of him um what he pointed out and I don't know the answer to any questions he would. What he pointed out was he said you know you have to maintain a fund that's going
to take care of the equipment that takes care of the field and you know all this this is um and so I I know that nobody likes to to increase the fees that you're charging you know families to play sports. I I get that. But anyway,
so there's that information for what it's worth and and Doug Nickerson is the man's name. He was very forthcoming, very pleasant, very generous with his time. Um, I I do feel like somebody who knows the right questions to ask.
So, Bourne and Lakeville probably aren't in the same category, the same league. We need to find places like Lakeville, okay, that we can see what they do, right? Because born in they're not good. I mean, having just gotten this this
afternoon, it was like not enough time to really even do a deep dive on it. But you might know of, you know, some towns, either you or Melissa might know of some towns that would be more comparable because I was thinking of that. I was thinking these may not be the two towns to compare, right?
But, um, you know, you you want to be fair to to the town and to the families and to the kids, all that. So, absolutely. Anyway, um, call them. But, but you probably could come up with some better towns,
right? Well, Fran in Middleboro next door, but he's a department. He's not an enterprise friend. That's another thing like to look at to compare. Yep. Right. They get funding from the town, right? And they usually have a um friends group.
Friends groups are good things to have. Y absolutely. Yep. Okay. So, um under the framework for a more equitable field rental fee structure, it says define fairness because obviously We're not going to do
this all in one one swoop. Um, field usage. You'll want to clarify whether you want fees to reflect field usage, which is time based. Everyone pays according to how many hours they use, or impact cost recovery, which is fees
reflect wear and tear, maintenance, lighting, staffing, etc. We have a um the user fee that does the lighting and the water. And then accessibility for participants, ensuring affordability for children,
youth, smaller leagues, or lower inome families. Often a hybrid model balances these, but I I'm wondering ensuring affordability for children, youth, smaller leagues, or lower income families if this isn't for actual leagues too and not excuse me,
field rentals. Right. When when I was involved with soccer, we would scholarship children who parents were, you know, struggling, right? Yeah, that's great. I think most leagues do that, don't you think?
I would hope so. I hope so. I would hope so. And then it says number two is gather the right data. So that's why I gave you that $60,000 just for the maintenance position and the
portaotties. total available playable hours per season, actual hours requested by each league, and league sizes and demographics, youths, adult, nonprofit, and for-profit.
That's where we did we looked at last year and it ranged between well, it was per person per hour, so it was a dollar like per person per hour to play. So, we have to decide whether we're
going to use the hourly usage fee, the hybrid model, cost recovery model, tiered pricing, or the just the plain old per head that we've been doing. But it did give a good um suggestion and it said to go back to your past season and
see what would happen using these different models, what it would come out to be because we don't want to, and it says that too, that you don't want to overwhelm people. So you roll it out like in a couple years. Yeah. They change the model and all of a sudden it's like oh
right a lot more money doesn't you know to be wise of that. Um looking it over I I I seem I like the hybrid type of idea where you know you're getting the per head fee which is
good but then um like we we sort of had the issue of the per head fee and that that's it. Then you could use the fields as much as you like and it's still the same cost or as little as you like, it's still the same cost. So adding that um hourly fee with it sort
of yeah, you know, counters that and makes it a little more fair, right? So what we need to do is take that hybrid model and see and take the softball schedule, the
soccer schedule and see what it comes out to be using that. just I've just started to do that already. Okay. I got a a spreadsheet and uh it's it's not ready for prime time,
but it's a lot of work. I'm sure. What? Sure. It's a lot of work. Well, it's it's So, I just plugged in some numbers here to see what would happen trying the hybrid and so you I could switch out the player fee or the per hour fee and just and see what it
comes to, for example. and and and just preliminaryly look what I'll do is I'll I'll polish it up and send it to you. But just looking at it um initially uh it definitely equals out that cost
per field hour. You can see the numbers it just the range uh shrinks considerably. So it becomes much more uh equal and but but also it's interesting to see which which leagues are how they're
impacted. Some the fees go up quite a bit, some they go down. So but anyway, I'll I'll I'll polish that up and and say that then you can play around with the numbers and Okay. Because you have to assume the
bigger leagues, softball, not baseball, but softball and soccer, it's going to go up, but men's softball and horseshoes and
volleyball is going to go down. Yeah. Yeah. The biggest the biggest jump, no surprise, is FLA, right? because you took them off of their set fee. Right. Because they're already getting a huge discount.
Right. Right. And and I'm not defending anybody, but I know they reserve all those fields, but they don't use half. Right. So that's the thing. No, I you're right.
Right. because this would compel them to say to give us better hours. You'd have a really accurate schedule. So we have you give us more accurate schedule because there there's no incentive at this particular point to um
not to give every hour. No, because once when they combined Freetown and Lakeville, um they pushed the majority of their playing time over to Freetown because they had the big snack bar and they could generate more money. I mean, they
even went as far as took away a softball field and made it a little league field and the poor girls had no place to play. So that's why subsequently they're playing with our girls in Lakeville, right? which I'm glad that they did
that. That's that's that was very hospitable of them to bring them in to take them back. Yeah. Yeah. And then they play in a too, right? They're using some of these fields, right?
Which have been left to dust, right? And they're always loaded with goose poop. Partly because all the leagues are shrinking, right? I mean, we're two small towns and to run three spring sports is very taxing.
Yeah. When I was a kid, it was baseball, you know, and then soccer came along, so baseball took a hit. Then lacrosse came along and both of them took another hit. I mean, when I was coaching little league, we had six major league teams,
eight minor league teams, eight double A minor league teams, and eight T-ball teams. There were a lot of kids playing. Yep. Now they're having a hard time fielding five teams. They've gone down to 11 on a
roster instead of 12 and it's two towns and their minor league is one league. You know, I mean, it's just the numbers have have decreased um across the board. Yeah. That's interesting that you're mentioning that because when I was
speaking with that guy Doug, he mentioned the populations decreasing. Yeah. Well, look at the look at the you know how many kids are graduating from aquate. You know
the class sizes are smaller. We were 20. The class behind me was 230 when it started this senior year. You know we were over 200. Now they're not even close to that. Yeah. Strange, but yeah. True.
And then with these like co took a hit too. Like the kids aren't playing all the stuff that they used to You're right. do. I don't think anything's bounced back. I know dance classes haven't come back either. All right. So, we'll put him in this and
we'll look at the hybrid model a little more next time. a deeper dive. Okay. Liaison updates. Does anybody have any liaison updates? Um
CPC is still waiting for invoice from is it Zenith? Is that Yeah, they haven't got an invoice yet. So, there's that. Um I If you do want to put in an application for those
handicap mats. Yep. I put it in yesterday. Okay. It's down here on my list. Okay. Applied for CPC and our it's 20,000 for 400 ft of 5 foot wide mats. Parks will buy the machine to lay it down to pick it up and we will fix the handicap
parking. So, we'll do it as a group project. They give us the 20,000. We'll kick in whatever else we need to. All right. So, that's step one. Step one. Yep. Onward and upward. Yep.
That's okay. Um I also applied for the arts council for $1,000 for to bring in music for music in the ponds. Um let's see. Jump on Park. We got an email saying their swings were broken and it was all
the metal was showing and it was dangerous. So, I went down and looked and they were right. The sing swing seats were all gross, but I couldn't get them off. So, I got the bolt cutters and a ladder and cut the chains down. So,
they now John Pond Park only has two swings and would have a little play space they had. But I don't think it's it's counterintuitive to put a playground up now. Oh, yeah. Because we have the engineering plan
coming. So, we'll take care of it after that. Um the Christmas stroll, we had a meeting this past week and um Red Hand Brewing Company reached out and they would like
to sell beer at the Christmas stroll in the park. I don't know how everybody feels about that because we don't usually do that. They would obviously have to apply for a permit from the select board to do that
to be allowed to sell alcohol beer in the park for that event. Where where are they going to set up? Well, Lun Pond has an event that evening, so they would have to set up OAR probably by the soccer fields.
What would the That's where it's ending. Anyway, um the Christmas stroll is 12 to 2:30, I believe. Um, I think if we were to do it, I think you could set it up in a way where um,
you know, maybe you buy tickets and you're only allowed one ticket for a drink or something. Just one drink. Like I don't think if you were I don't think you have to leave that. You can't just be going up and bunch of Well, there's not a free sample, so you
would have to pay for it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you have to pay for one. So, for the Christmas stroll, we're setting up a hot cocoa stand that's donated, a samoras stand that's donated, and I think there was one more thing,
popcorn that we're doing. So, I'll have that and then the beer thing. But, um, so if nobody's against it, what do you think? Have you ever brought a place in? I know
Elliot's Farm does for their thing and they said that they were at the Arts Council. They did at the Arts Council. I was shocked. I don't have a problem with it. Okay. As long as they provide more than just
alcohol, you know, right? Soda, cider, you know, other things for people to drink. Seltas, you know. Yeah, they not just beer. Yeah, they didn't. Um I wanted a beverage, but I wanted a non-alcoholic
beverage. That's what I'm saying. I had a hard time getting one. I went over the church and I got these little juice boxes are about this big. I felt like I was 5 years old. But it would it would be nice to have Yeah. a non-alcoholic beverage also.
I mean, I don't think it's that hard for them. I mean, they got to have them there. They just, you know, or buy some so that they have to sell, you know. Okay. I just just want to make it an offering so that it's good for everybody. Yep.
All right. So, we'll add non-alcoholic beverages. Okay. Ted Williams Camp irrigation. So, I'm sure that you noticed if you've driven through Ted Williams camp, the orange snow fence is back up on the fields because they've airrated and
seated that section of the grass. They've also come up with a couple irrigation issues. So, one thing always leads to another thing. So, those irrigation issues have triggered the intake. I'm
sure it's coincidental. I don't think one caused the other one, but the intake that goes into the pond that goes to the pump is not holding the water. So, the irrigation man from Rightway said that either the
valve is broken or there's like a stick or stuff stuck in it that it's not closing. So, all the water that comes into the pump when the pump's running, once the pump stops, it all rolls back out. So
it's a backflow. Yeah. Backflow valve. Yeah. So because it's one way, so it only comes in supposed to be only one way, right? So and then it closes, right? He thinks that's the issue. Yeah. Um who fixes that? A plumber? No.
Um we brought it in. The soccer club did. Um Okay. So I called the soccer club. We paid for it. We built the shed. Um, Stern's Irrigation was a big help to us.
Okay. They set us up with the pump. They We bought all the stuff from them. They gave us the tools, well, let us borrow the tools to I We spent two years of every Sunday out there putting the
irrigation in the round. And you got to you got to melt the pipes together. You know, they're like plastic. So they let us borrow the equipment and we did it. They showed us how to do it. We went to it, you know. Um I remember in the very
beginning we had issues with the pump. I'm trying to remember. I can reach out to um some people and find out who we got in the past. It's been a while. Um, you know,
so you think a irrigation company will come and do that? Um, it might be a pump company. A pump company. So, not like a plumber. A plumber. A pump company. No, cuz when we had the It's like when
we had the the well go further down, we had a pump company come in and they put a new pump down into the well, you know, next level expense. Yeah. I mean, but that that I'm just remembering that particular pump company um cuz I sat there and babysat them for
two days, you know. Okay. Yeah. So, if you think of that, let me know. It's not an emergency because it's the middle of October, so the it's going to be blown out in the next
few weeks anyway, maybe after November 15th. But um it'll have to be done before spring. Okay. Bunker rake situation. So the bunker rake is all fixed. It's in our shed, our maintenance shed now. And it
is um doesn't fit in the softball shed, of course, because that would be too easy. So, it will fit in their container, but they have their maintenance equipment and everything in
the container. So, right, it's going to stay in our shed until they decide what they want to do with it. Like, if they want it done more often, they're going to have to find a place to put it because, right, we're not going to wrestle it back and forth on it.
That's it, right? Yeah. I mean, we could do it when we have time, but it won't be a regular all the time. Um, okay. So, as most of you know, I am now on the open space committee,
which is very interesting. It's just I'm like so out of my depth because I know nothing about it. And they talk about this plot of land and that plot of land, and I have no idea where it is or what they're talking about. However, one of their goals for the next year or so is
trail mapping. So, I volunteered obviously to do Ted Williams camp. So, it's to map out all the trails and to see how long they are and write a description of each of the trails. So, today while I did that, I ran into the
black fence from the fire station. Yeah, it's coming closer to the um skate park than I thought it was going to, but that's okay. Story for another
time. Okay. Um Scott, what about the electric and the water coming across to the other side of the field at Commissioner's Field? Is that something we're still planning on doing? I thought so. I thought Mike had it lined up. Um, I asked him about it and
he said Clancy was ready to go. Um, but that we needed to get someone to do the final hookup that he was he was going to he was ready to do the trench. Um, but then we'd have to take it from there or hire an electrician or hire a
plumber. Okay. Or get someone to put piping and run wire and water through it. Okay. So I can reach out to him also and see if there's any. Yeah, because I think soccer finishes
the end of October, right? The first week in Novemberish. It's done by Thanksgiving. Yeah. So if the ground isn't frozen. Yeah. No way. Might want to do it and just get that off our list
because the money's in that account. So I mean it's just sitting there. Okay. Any other no other liaison reports? Nothing. Have you heard any yays or nays about the
timer in the volleyball, Andrew? Okay. Does anybody have any new business? I have new business. Is there anybody who wants to do an interview on camera about Ted Williams Camp and what we use
it for today? I think the first stately I think we should He's thinking about it. I can see it in his eyes. Scott doesn't like to be on camera. I don't like to be on camera. I'm like I'll ask and if no one else wants to do it, I'll do it. But I really don't enjoy
being on camera. No offense. What is this for? So, I've talked before about um Dean College and doing an internship here and they want to do um the history of Ted Williams camp. So, there's three
students that are going to work on this project. One's a history major and I think a couple of them are film and they're going to put together a history of Ted Williams Camp. So they thought a park commissioner would be good to do what
Ted Williams camp is now. Nice. We've got something somewhere history of the camp. I'm interesting if someone's going to take it, they can right, you know. Yeah. So I thought um I was going to invite them down
to go through all the stuff we have like in the office and everywhere and take them on a walk. And this is because um Mr. Molini gave us the map of what the area was before it became Ted Williams camp. So they can start way back
there. Mr. Mali gave it to us. It's in the office. I asked him for that years ago. He said that he said it's taken him like three years to get it over here, but he gave it to us in the spring. Yeah. It's really cool. So you guys
haven't seen it. It's got, you know, little hills and ammo ammo place where they did shooting when it was a boy scout camp. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool. All right, Andrew. So, you want me to have them contact you? Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you. I actually did one for the town when the town did the town video last year and oh my god, it got so bad. Like I was swearing like I can't believe. son of a gun. All right. So, I'll send
them to you. Thank you, Andrew. All right. So, if that's all with that, our next meeting is October 23rd. Andrew, our town administrator, and Lacy will be here to talk about
the sports area. You know, we've discussed it before. the the fit pad or what was what was it called? Yeah, something like that. He told me the exact words and I forgot. So, they're coming on the 23rd for that. Um,
November 13th is I'm meeting after that. And the one after that is the 27th, which is Thanksgiving. So, I was wondering instead of on November if you wanted to do the 20th instead. That'll give us three weeks
between our meetings instead of five weeks. There's a CPC meeting on the 20th. On the 20th at 6:30. Yeah. So, that doesn't work for me. Is there a reason that we don't uh ever meet on Wednesdays or is it because
that's Prince Spaghetti Day? No, I don't think I will be. You can't do Wednesdays. Can't do Wednesdays. Scott can't do Wednesdays. There you go. Okay. So, I mean, you you could have the meeting and I just wouldn't um on the 20th. I just I would be the CPC meeting.
Well, it's up to you guys if you want to stay with the 13th. There's probably not much going on here that we can't go longer than that. And if there is, we could always call a meeting because we have the same thing in December. Our meetings are the 11th and
the 25th, which is Christmas. I mean, I knew that was going to happen, too. I was going to say and then the next one after that is oh next week is January 1, right? I mean we used to meet on Mondays. We used to meet on Tuesdays. We used to meet on Thursdays and then we switched.
It's just the CPC meeting. Well, they're they're Thursdays. That's why we switched our because we used to meet the first and the third and then they came and took the third. So then we went the second and the fourth. I'm going to let someone else figure it out.
this time of year or once a month is probably sufficient is enough I would think. Okay. So if something comes up we'll just add it. So you can stay with the 13th. November 13th. Okay. Yep. And then the 11th. Awesome.
Okay. If there's nothing else we anything else. Somebody said something about bees. some place and I can't remember where it was now. There were I did get a call that there
were bees two Sundays ago. There were bees in the portaotti at Commissioner's Field. That may have been more bugs. So, I was baking. So, my husband went to Ace after scouring the house looking for bug spray. He went to Ace Hardware,
bought the spray, and then went down to spray the portaotti. There were no bees in the portaotti. There might have been like a couple bees in the porta body, but there was no beehive or anything in the porta body. He's like, so I sprayed it and then gave him the can. So they have their own bug spray in the
There you go. Thank him. Thank him for us. It was like, you can watch the own stove and I'll go or you can go. He's like, I'll go. Before the fields were done, um the deal and I went down there, there were two, you know, big the big hives and we we
went on a mission. We had full cans of spray and we went down and we attacked them just after dark one night. Yeah. So, the spray that they have now, it's a um it shoots from far away and as soon as it hits the bee, the bee drops because when we
opened the sprinklers to do the last irrigation problem at Commissioner's Field, you opened one door and there was a big hive. So, we sprayed that. You opened the next door, there was a big hive, so we sprayed that. It was like, "Oh my gosh." But it
we just let it sit. I ran to Ace, came back and sprayed it and it was good to go. And like you didn't even have to wait. It was like immediate. So it was amazing. They kill the bees except for the cicada killers. They don't kill them cuz I have them in my backyard every summer.
Cicas or the bees? The bees. the cicada killing bees and they're this big and they burrow into the ground and they catch the cicas and bring them back and bring them in the holes to their really to Oh yeah, it's quite an adventure. So far the only thing we found to kill
them was lemon ammonia they pour into the hole. Yes, I hit them with the bugs the be spray and they just shake it off and fly away and I go right. Wow, that's crazy.
Okay. 7:31. Anybody want to make a motion? My motion to journ the meeting. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? I I All I motion meeting is ended. Have a
good weekend everybody. Thank you.