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Good evening and welcome to the May 28th Park Commission meeting. Lake camera is recording. Is there anybody else recording? Hearing none, we'll move on. We're going to start tonight with a special guest that I just met in the parking lot. Um,

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his name is Ed Leonard and he has something a story to tell us. >> Welcome, Ed. >> I don't know if you've aware of my book, but in collecting the data for that book, the overlooked players, Ted Williams, I was given many items. Doug

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Barry gave me a couple baseball bats that the they played with the boys camp. Uh, Peter Cupy gave me that shirt. Uh there was a blooper ball that Ted introduced the game of blooper ball. All

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those items are now with the historical uh society museum. Hugh Rogers gave me this photograph. I didn't offer that to the museum because I didn't think it quite fit the

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history of the camp, but I have it and I want to get rid of it. I want to find a home for it. I don't want to just throw it away. And looking into the properties here of the camp, I

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don't ever remember seeing a picture of Ted Williams. And I thought maybe one of the spots might be at the Moon Lodge because 10,000 kids and coaches and staff ate their breakfast, lunch, and

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dinner for 2 months for 10 year or 30 years. I went in there the other day and there's no photo of the They used to have a bunch of his memorabilia at the lodge, but it disappeared over the years. Uh Doug Gary went looking for it

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for me one day and he couldn't find any of it. But looking the way they had it decorated, it didn't seem like that would be a place where you'd have find a this photo of Ted Williams or somebody's getting married. I don't know. I went to

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your office and you showed me that right the letter that Ted signed requesting the town to use his name for the camp. and he said yes, but give me an insurance policy for a million dollars so he doesn't get sued.

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I don't know if you have a photo of Ted in your office or not. Is there one? >> There's a couple. Yeah. >> Oh, there are viewable from the off from when you go in. >> Mhm. >> I don't remember seeing it. >> I thought that might be a place for this.

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>> Anyway, I'd like to offer to you tonight. Take ownership. do with it what you want. >> So that's my request why I asked to be here. >> Okay. What does everybody think?

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>> Great. >> That's great. >> Yeah. >> So you motion to accept the Ed's donation of the Ted Williams picture. >> I second that. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. Hi. >> I I I would like to I would like to know

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tonight like where exactly that's going to go because I want to be able to go and look at it. And I think Lon Pond Lodge at least is a place where people will see it. >> And I, you know, I think the fact that there's weddings there is

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>> I kind of agree with Ed. >> Some people will want to be like, "Oh, that's so cool." And others will be like, other brides will be like, >> I went to the lodge and that's independently owned and operated, right? >> It's independently operated. They lease it from us. >> But you own the lease to it.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. So, you can dictate what goes in or out of it. >> Um, I haven't been able to so far, but maybe we can. >> But working with them, I mean, I can't do it. >> Yeah. But we would love We can put it in

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the office. We have a a t-shirt up there. We've got that letter that you mentioned >> right here at the council. >> Yeah. >> So, one of the properties here, >> right? So, our office is actually one of the original buildings along with the commissary and we have two others. The

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horseshoe um closet shed and the snack their snack shack. So, those are the only four buildings left. >> Okay. >> Through the chair. My only concern is the fact that he went looking for other

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memorabilia that was nowhere to be found. That concerns me and I want to I want it absolutely I I I want to know that nothing's going to happen to that. >> Right. So in the office it's always locked unless somebody's there. Loon Pon

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Lodge is not the same. It's not locked. It's not monitored. And you have thousands of people going in and out of Lon Pon Lodge all the time. And I'm sure that's what happened to any of the memorabilia. >> So it'll be in the office. >> Yeah, I think that's the best place for it. >> Yeah, I mean the the locking pin is

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definitely the safer spot for >> Thank you. >> So you own it. >> We own it. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Appreciate it. Have a good meeting. >> You too. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. Does anybody have any

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announcements? Peter? Um, I would just mention that I sent it via um email, but uh Malady did say he's not doing fireworks this year. >> Yes. >> I didn't think so cuz it was getting so

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close and he he tells me every year that it's so much work. He said um that he's willing to do it, but he wants somebody to take it over and do all the work because I have to go through permits for Lakeill Day. I have to talk to the fire department. I have to go talk to the

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police chief. I have to fill out forms. I can't even imagine what he has to go through for fireworks. So, thank you for all the years that you've done it, the Maliti family. It's I just found it a couple years ago and

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we love it. Um, but we totally understand why you had to stop. Okay. We had no meetings with our guests, but we did approve the minutes. Now, do we only have two sets of minutes?

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>> Yes. 30 to 21st. I still haven't done yet. >> Okay, good. Because I couldn't find it yet. The reason for that. >> Okay, so we'll start with May 14th. Did anybody find any errors, omissions,

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or extras in the minutes? No, >> the only thing I had sort of had a question on was the >> So, it was noted that no work agreement for FLA has been drafted. So, they

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drafted one. >> That's true. um one was drafted but it didn't meet the um >> we kind of debated like if it wasn't even necessary because if they if it sounded like they were just going >> a field day right so yeah you are correct it was drafted it wasn't up to

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what we felt was needed for the field so we just called it a field day and didn't pursue it any further >> so you want us to aster thing. I kind of don't want to mess it up. >> Okay. Barring that.

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>> So, um, so there was a field day. >> No, there wasn't. >> There wasn't. >> Where are we, Andrew? >> We're on page 38. >> Page 38. >> Item 10, second line. >> Okay. It was no work agreement

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Lakeville Association has been. Maybe we put signed instead of drafted. Noel and I were just talking about that today. >> Hey, does anybody want to accept the minutes of May 14th? >> So, we're going to change that to sign. Is that satisfy?

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>> Is that good, Andrew? I'll make a motion that we accept the meetings of the minutes of the 14th. >> Second. >> Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I. >> Perfect.

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It's accepted. Okay. April 23rd. I had to um go back and watch the meeting today because on the last page under number 15, it's highlighted. Um it says current projects that have been proposed include baseball field repairs,

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new gate, and it says where. So I'm like gate. I don't remember a gate. Like what were we talking about a gate? So I went back and I watched the meeting and it said I'd already put a gate on the list and I was like gate and I'm like oh no it was a gate tour. It's the John Deere

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makes the gator. So instead of the club car that we are going to purchase it's a gator. So yeah. So I understand where that miscommunication came from because even I didn't remember saying it. So that was already corrected.

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Anybody find any other corrections, omissions? Anybody want a motion to accept? Make a motion to accept the meetings of April 23rd, 2026. >> I'll second it. Any further discussion?

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All in favor? >> I minutes are accepted. Okay. Discuss and possible vote to approve application requests. And I think we have two. Yep, we have two. So, a horseshoe tour

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another horseshoe tournament June 13th and 14th. This is for It doesn't say if it's doubles or singles. And I am going to assume that they're with 18 people. So if it's doubles, right, then that's four people per

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court. So they would only need four courts. If it's singles and they have more than 18 people, they'll need all the courts, which includes the four registered for the town to use. Doesn't really matter. I can only say that a handful of times I've ever seen

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anybody use them. >> So, I'm sure two days. >> Say that again. >> It's only two days, >> right? >> Um the four That's actually rain day. The 14. Yeah, it's one day. Think that's good. I'll um motion to

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approve the tournament on June 13th for the rain date of the 14th. >> Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? >> And the next one is um from the southeast region of the DDS.

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Um they're actually loc cuz I'm like why do they want to come here? But they're actually located in middle borrow. So that explains why they want to come here cuz we're close. So there um are they having those two days, Peter, or is it just one of the days?

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>> Okay. So um guess rain date, but um I got an email from them and they've changed that date to uh what is it? August 26. Wednesday, August 26. rain date the 27th.

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>> Yeah. Well, it didn't have a rain date for but uh >> soon. >> So, I guess but they just asked for Wednesday, August 26th. Other looked on the calendar. There's nothing on the calendar. >> There's nothing there >> either for our fields or during the day at least. And nothing scheduled in Palm

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Lodge either. >> Perfect. And they also clarify that they're looking at she's looking at um 100 to 150 people. >> Wow. >> So it's a sizable group potentially.

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>> Um so what is everybody's wish there? Now is this the one that you told has to bring their own insurance? I did I there was another individual who uh asked about that and uh that's that's

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still in discussion. >> Right. So >> but this one too with >> Right. So because they have and I'm going to say that after we talked to the man I as soon as I left I was like hey he needs his own insurance because once

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they bring in a bouncy house or a they want a dunk tank that increases the liability. It's not just people hanging out in the park anymore. So, so they'll need their own insurance. And then we usually ask for a donation, right? That's what we did with your

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company last year. >> Yep. >> Mhm. >> Um the only problem is they're a state agency, so I don't believe they can do that. Um, she did ask if there was a fee. So, if you would rather charge her a fee or

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if because it's a state agency, if you want to just wave the fee >> for the chair, I think we should charge a fee. >> You think we should charge a fee? >> Okay. What do you suggest? >> $50. >> Is that crazy? I I honestly don't know

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if that's reasonable. >> Sorry. It seems like a sizable amount of people. So, like, do we have to like get the bathrooms cleaned or pumped or anything after? >> Well, knock on wood. Um, the past 2 weeks I've cleaned the bathroom twice.

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Um, because I'm hoping that we ran out of one ply toilet paper. So, when Bob was changing the toilet paper, he was putting two ply toilet paper in. So, um, Peter's ordered new one ply. So fingers

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crossed we don't have that problem anymore. I'm sick of cleaning the bathroom. >> Yeah. I'm just saying that might explain why we need to charge a fee. >> Right. >> I mean if you go based on like the tournament fee was $3 per person. >> That would be around like 300

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>> $300. >> Yeah. >> Do you remember the um septic pumping off the top of your head? >> Is it 195? Uh, so at least that >> it might be more. I don't know. >> But the um Don't didn't the board of

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health require something like uh ported potty for over 50 people? >> Yeah. Bathroom for every 50 people. >> So, doesn't this trigger that they really should bring in their own port bodies? >> Well, we have if they're if they're all usable

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condition, four ladies rooms and three stalls and three urinals in the men's room. So, we have plenty of bathrooms, but if you prefer that they bring in portaotties, we can. >> If that meets the requirement, that's fine. Right. >> We can do that. >> Yeah,

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>> it's whatever. In the past, we haven't had a lot of people since I've been here come and ask us. I want to say Andrew was like the first one. So, it's whatever. We did come find a um fee sheet that I had the usage of the

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fields, but it was like Not really current. >> What do we charge for um the part the pond for like a party

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>> clear pond? I think it was was it 175? >> So I was way off for the chair. I was I mean I laugh at myself because I've never had to you know >> right. So probably more accurate considering the expenses that you brought up. >> Well, I think if we stay in line with

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that, that's fair. It's the same and it will help towards if we have to get the septic pumped, >> right? So what were we saying like $300? >> Yeah. I'll I'll go with Andrews and say $3 a person, >> right, for the day.

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>> Do it for tournaments, >> right? >> So sort of the same idea. >> So where's that up to? 300 300ish >> 450. >> There we go. >> Between 300 and 450. >> So, whatever. >> We could round it round it off to 500.

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>> We could if that's what you so choose. >> Well, it's a it's a state funded organization. They they have accounts for this kind of thing. >> Um yeah, I I don't know. It's um Department of Developmental

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Services. So, I mean, I don't know. I assume that they have budget problems just like the rest of us has have budget problems. I mean, I'm all I'm all for taking people's money, but >> I want to have a lot of people asking to

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do it. It's a state agency. Uh, Fed, we have budget problems. Local, we just had an override vote. So, I'm sure the state has budget problems. I think we should just look to cover our costs. 400 car. >> 400. >> Well, if we do the $300 a person, right?

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>> A person. >> $3. What did I say? 300. >> Baseball. Here we come. >> Talk about goucha. >> Right in between it would be 375. Right there we are. >> 125 people. >> 375. >> $3 each. >> Thank you.

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>> 375. >> Okay. So, you want to All right. Is there a motion? I make a motion that we uh host the U summer barbecue at uh a fee of $375

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on >> is it August 26th? >> 26th. >> Second. >> They must have insurance. >> Pardon me. >> They have to have insurance >> provided they have insurance. Yeah. >> Insurance. >> That's just if they have the bouncy

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house. the insurance of the bouncy house dunk tank, but they're bringing in portable grills, too, so you might as well just get their insurance >> in case they blow up the place. >> I'll second that. >> Any further discussion?

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>> All in favor? >> I I >> Perfect. So until things change, we'll just look at it as the $3 a person when they bring parties in. Okay. Clear Pond Park discuss and possible vote on applications for Clear

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Pond Park positions. Well, the interviews are scheduled for next Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday from 2:15 to 4:30ish. So, if anybody's free and wants to sit in, just let me know because two of us can be there. So, just

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let me know. Um, we have one, two, three assistant director interviews. We have one, two, three, four, five, six lifeguard applicants. 23rd.

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No, it's um June 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. >> Okay. >> We open on June 20th. >> Okay. Um so, six lifeguard applications. Of those, we've hired three because they

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worked here previously. We have 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 nine attendant applicants and we've hired one cuz she

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has worked here previously. So, we're getting there. We've had three that have come in that we've reached out to that haven't responded. So, no director. Um, we had a director applicant who was also

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an assistant director applicant and um, they said when they reached out he didn't seem like he really wanted the position. So, we're kind of leaning more towards two assistant co-directors instead. So, we'll see. We have those applicants

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I believe are on Tuesday. >> It's six and lifeguards. Um, we actually had another one. I think it was Owen who worked here last year come in. Yeah, I think we had six last year. Six or seven. Um, they have more

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vacations this year than they have in the past, but if we have to close the raft and just keep two life two or three lifeguards on the beach, that's what we have to do. Yeah, sounds good. Perfect.

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So, yeah. So, let me know if anybody's interested in sitting in on those. >> I would I would Tuesday on Tuesday at 2:15. >> I'll be there is at the office. >> Yeah. >> Um, let's see what's next. Plans for

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opening of Clare Pond. Well, we've had the cleanup day with Jonathan Johnson and um I'm shoot the other company, but I never Newman. I don't know the other company. Um, worked good. I while they were working outside,

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I was inside. I cleaned the bathrooms. I hate cleaning bathrooms. I cleaned the bathrooms and I cleaned the snack shack. So, those are pretty much ready to go. I'll just do another quick and clean the floors. Um, I filled out the forms to have the snack shack

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um, board of health approved today. So, hopefully we'll be able to get that done. We are serve safe is only our only other problem with that because none of our applicants were serve safe certified. So when we meet with them on Tuesday, I'll ask if they're interested

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in doing that. Um worst case scenario I believe is that we sell prepackaged foods and hot dogs. So I mean it's not the end of the world and it's a only it's a 8week course, 8 day course, 8 hour course. It's a eight hour course to get your serve safe and then you just

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have to take a test, a proctored exam. So, I mean, it's not the end of the world. Like, we could do that if we had to. We're going to need training for the attendance, which Peter and um is Paula going to sit in on that?

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>> We'll talk to her. We'll see. They're short-handed there. >> Um so, yes. So, at least Peter and I will be there with that. And like I said, we have at least one returning, actually two. One's going to be a lifeguard this year, but wasn't attended this last year. So hopefully they can

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help with that as well. It's just doing work. We have sand to spread. We have mulch to spread. The Girl Scouts are coming in tomorrow night, unless it's raining, which it looks like it might be at this point, to do their water safety station.

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So that's fun. And then we have a lot of brush that needs to be gotten rid of. So, I said we'd do samores after they do their station. So, if anybody wants to come, they're coming around 7 to Clear Pond. So, if anybody wants to take a ride, have some s'mores, say hello to

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the Girl Scouts. You're welcome. Um, what else? Peter's got a list going through his head of everything that needs to be done before Clear Pond opens and he's starting to panic a little bit. What's the most important thing on the list besides staff hiring?

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uh getting the computer up and running. Bob McN was over today uh getting that uh the old computer fixed up for us and uh he needs to go over there and uh set up the uh Wi-Fi access point.

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>> Perfect. >> And I did over printer today, too. >> Okay. through the chair. Um, backing up a little bit what you were saying about hating cleaning bathrooms, what um, crossed my mind was at the um,

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>> you're volunteering. Thank you so much, Noel. >> No, those days are gone for me. What crossed my mind was at the school committee meetings they um and the budget meetings they mentioned that they have the I don't know what the name of

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the program is but they recruit students to do their janitorial services in the school as a vocational but they get paid to do it. So, with that in mind, that might be something to

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consider to to take some of that job off of you and maybe some of those kids. Something to think about. >> And who who runs that? Do you know? >> I have no idea, but if you >> I'll text you cuz my son does it.

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>> Okay, there we go. >> They don't clean bathrooms in the schools. So, they call it student custodian, but what they do is they go in and they like they move all the furniture out of the classrooms so the actual like full-time custodian can wax the floors and stuff. >> Um

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>> Oh, >> yeah. It's It's a teacher that >> Okay. >> organizes it. >> Organizes it. But I'll get you the means if you're interested. Yeah. >> Because I was thinking, "Wow, that's that's great. High school kids want to clean the bathroom." >> They don't do that. >> No, they don't. I I totally get it.

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>> Okay. So, it's just little things. It's like work. So, maybe we'll have a work day. Maybe we'll have a community work day. It's only 3 weeks till opening. So, we'll have to if you guys want to come on Friday, if you want to come on a different day, and we can go through and see everything that needs to be done.

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Um, whoever we hire is going to have to be willing to work with us so we can do things as the year progresses. It doesn't all have to be done right now. What else does that leave? Just leave.

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Where are we? Plans for Clan Park Enterprise Fund budget update. Here it is. I always think we're looking in pretty good shape. And then it must have been Tuesday, right, Peter? I go out to the maintenance shed and there's

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two DPW mechanics out there. Both of our lawnmowers had problems and stopped working at the same time. One of them it um one of them they fixed and the other one is um waiting on a part.

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But the one that's waiting on a part is our um our big orange one. And it has over 3,000 hours of run time, which is like the end of life for these

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machines. So, it was $9,800 for our gator and now it's $14,000 for a lawn mower. They were a little bit sad that I had we had they had to give up their new gator,

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but um we need the lawn mower. So, I put in I sent the email to the town administrator today to see about when we can get the capital finance committee to approve our our big purchase.

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So, that comes out of this 20 on the front. >> It comes out of where are we? >> The capital. >> No. That capital is was for Is that on here? >> Yeah. Up at the top.

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>> Oh, the capital on the top for whatever we had for capital this year. What do we have for capital this year? Our capital project was it the water? >> Could have been the roof.

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Could have been the roof. I forget what it was. >> Okay. >> So, what's this coming out of then? Well, this is going to have to come out of on the back where it says park enterprise expenses.

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We have repair and maintenance buildings and grounds has $14,000 left in that budget, but we have to subtract $6,000 for our second fertilizer treatment at the end of June. So, that leaves us with $8,000 there. And then other contracted services has

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$6,000 left in that. And then uh what else? Groundskeeping supplies has an extra $8,700 left in that. And of those things, we shouldn't be using too much more. We have to replace the part which was $500.

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But it leaves us with a um excess with just those big categories of $23,000. So we might have to split it up. But we can get it.

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So, yes, we had to order the part to have it fixed because it's going to take probably a couple months to even order it. Like, if we ordered it today, we wouldn't get it until the end of the summer. So, we have to just keep lumping it together until

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we get the new one. cuz that's that's a necessity. I mean, can't go without our Mars. Any questions on this budget? So far, I think we're only over in one

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big category, which is the auxiliary staff for the clear pond, which hindsight, some of it should have come out of the lifeguards. So, >> so with this expense, I I was talking to

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people about playground equipment for a spring clearance. We don't have the budget for that anymore. >> Is that what our $20,000 is? Or is that next? I think that's our next budget was $25,000 has the capital expense in it.

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>> So for this year, I'm just doing research. >> Yeah, but it's I mean even if you like if you ordered it today, it still wouldn't come in until next month, >> which is next budget. >> Okay. >> July 1st is the next budget. So on July

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1st, you can spend. So, is there money in here that we have to use by the end of June? >> No. >> Okay. >> No. Any money here that we don't use by the end of June just goes back into our retained earnings, which just pretty much means we don't have instant access

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to it. >> Mhm. >> In order to get to touch that money, you have to go get it out of at a town meeting. they have to vote to on what you're going to spend it on,

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which we have twice a year, so it's not like the biggest deal in the world, but okay. Nobody has any other questions on that. >> Well, just my point, if we had money and we had something to do, we should do it and not go through that process,

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>> right? Yeah. So if we we meet again in two weeks, right, the end the first second week in June, we'll go through the budget. Maybe we can do it more detailed and see what we have. >> Okay. >> See what any um any expenses or anything

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you guys have bought for reimbursement. That all needs to be in at that meeting, too. I don't know if you have anything. Um but yeah, cuz that it takes a while to process. The end of the year is crazy. So everything takes longer to do and get back.

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And then anything we owe at the end of the month has to be encumbered, which just means that we say, "Hey, we're expecting this bill. We still hold it for us. Don't send it to retained earnings." And then um because if we

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don't do that, we have to wait till the November meeting to get the money back out of retained earnings to pay the bill. We can't just pay it out of the next budget. >> I know it's not like writing a check out of your checkbook, that's for sure.

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>> Okay. Lazison updates. I have a few for also. Okay. Uh I think I sent you texts and Glenn has sent a couple emails. So they're having their end of year party coming up, right? I think it was is it June

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10th maybe? Um they had asked if we could get the bathroom it might be the 11th if we could get the porter potty like make sure it's empty and >> cleaned before that. >> Yep.

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>> Um and then two other issues going on. Um, so there there's some type of like mouse problem going on in the snack shack. So they Yeah, fun times. So they have um a a

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exterminator coming out on Monday to take a look. Um, but also someone noticed that the breaker keeps getting tripped for the lights. So I don't know if that's like mice are chewing wires. Um, it could be or they said one of the

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light poles, Glenn sent an email cuz I asked him which one specifically. I think he said first baseline >> um is not working. So, I don't know if there's something like electrically going on with that pole that just keeps tripping cuz it's when they turn the lights on.

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>> Okay, we can get the um we'll send a work order to the electrician. >> Okay. Um but that was it. Everything seems to be going smoothly with field time and all that. >> Good. Yeah, because it'll be the fall

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that the blooper ball starts, right? That we have >> uh they start over the summer. >> Late summer they start. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But that always works out fine. >> Okay. All right. So, we will get porta

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potty cleaned and we will have our work order to the electrician. Does anybody else have anything? Noel, I know um Noel was at the baseball fields the other night, so that's why she wanted your phone number because they had some

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baseball issues. >> Do you want me to speak to that? Go >> ahead. I I wasn't there. I got a phone call from a parent of of players and the I I have several photographs I'm happy to share with you of um of the bases.

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the pitcher couldn't pitch because of the conditions of the you know the pitching mound and it it isn't it's bad the whole you know and so it's just it's not good

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and money is is a part of the problem but it's not all of the problem and one of the things that I discussed uh late this afternoon with someone was the agreements or contracts with the leagues in terms of what their responsibilities

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are. And so from what I understand, it's been an agreement and not a proper contract. So in a perfect world, an agreement would be an understanding,

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but it's it's not working. And so I think it needs to be revisited. Uh we need funding. I sat down with Andrew today, Andrew Sukforth, our town administrator, and um

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you know, it it really it really speaks to the to the issue of seeing this this beautiful poster of Ted Williams because here this man donated this land. He didn't. We bought it. We bought it >> for how much?

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>> Um, it was like two or three million. >> Two or three million. >> Yeah. He we took it by imminent domain. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Well, I learn something new every day. But, um, I think his legacy and what he

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put into Ted Williams camp when it was operational, and I remember when it was operational, was huge. And um it it's just it's it's sad to see the conditions of the grounds where he used to ride his bicycle around the fields and check the

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conditions of the fields every day, every every field. And I think that um I'd really like to see things get back up to par. And and I I it really it's exhausting hearing the circular

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talk about money and who does what and now it's it's a conundrum because I feel like we have to just say it needs to happen. It it needs to the condition of those fields has to become a priority. And I've I spoke to

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Andrew about that this morning and whether some of the there are some wealthy people in this town and I I'd like love to see them step up. I'd love to see them >> for fun. >> Yeah. I I I think you know it's time for

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people to step up. It's time for people to step up and and I'm happy to help in whatever way I can. I'm willing to go to businesses and and I'll speak to you people out there. Anybody who has a business who wants to have the name, they want to have their banner on the on

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the ball fields. Uh, other towns do it and and your name is out there and it's a great way to promote business. So, that's that's my right. So, we've always left um the sponsorship signs to the leagues so that

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they don't like baseball doesn't seem to take advantage of that. Soccer doesn't seem to take advantage of that. I don't there's a couple of >> soft a decent amount of money with them. >> Yeah. So, I mean the leagues complain that it's too much money, but they have this opportunity to raise more and they

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don't. So, I don't see why if they're not going to take advantage of it. We couldn't take advantage of it cuz we're renting >> like money, right? >> We Well, we're renting a space, right? By having the sponsorship, if we put a sign up, we're renting you that space to put your sign.

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>> So, technically, it's just like renting a ball field. space. >> So, I'll look to you, Melissa, for directive on how to go about doing that. And well, we'll have to set up price points, right? Cuz there's different levels.

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>> First year, second year. >> I don't know what softball charges. I can get you that info. Um, >> yeah. And then I I mean, keep in mind we >> Sorry, not go over top, but we maybe like three meetings ago made our

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like big long-term plan to put into the town and we did say to redo the fields and I mean, we're not going to make that level of money on selling sponsorship signs. No, but I think it's a matter of establishing a practice that generates

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revenue coming into parks, >> right? So, um >> I mean >> I don't know how you feel about naming rights. Each field instead of field one, field two, field three, we could sell naming rights to the fields. >> Yeah.

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>> I like that. That's a good idea. expensive. >> I mean, just think of things that >> what we could do >> cuz we don't have any more buildings to name. We don't It's It's hard because we don't have any more field time fields available to rent because they're

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already all rented out. What else do we have? Well, I feel like there's also like there are opportunities that we're not seizing for like because none of us have the time to do it. like there are grants that can be applied for to help with that,

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>> right? >> Do we get would we get picked? Who knows? >> Yeah, who knows? Um the two big ones are the park grants. So there's two. There's one in the spring and there's one in the fall. In order to apply for those, cuz that's what we were looking at when we met with the select board and I was

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like, we can't even apply for these if we're not a protected space. Like, >> oh, so unless we can go to town meeting and put it on the warrant and get it official that if the

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town votes to protect Ted Williams camp, then we can apply for these grants. >> Um, that's step number one. Step number two is the one in the spring, excuse me, is a reimbursement up to I forget how much it was, but if we could spend $700,000 and they would

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give us back $450. >> Mhm. >> But we would have to have that $700,000 guaranteed first. >> And we don't have we don't have that lying around. Even if we teamed with the CPC, we still wouldn't have that money

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lying around. So, it goes back to we'd have to get grants to win grants to apply for this grant so that we would have the cash. >> What about this protected space thing? Do you have time to get that on on this town meeting on in June? >> Um, it's 3 weeks away. So, I would say

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no, but that you have to go to a lawyer for that >> wording and all that. Again, it's the conundrum. It's the catch 22. In order to do that, we would have to go to a lawyer. I don't know if the town lawyer would be available to us for that or not where it's kind of not going against the

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town, but it's not what the town I I don't know. We have a new town council. He seems very capable. And none of these things are going to to give us the results that we want in in two or three months. this is looking out seasons and

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and so with that in mind, I would I would start planning to work on that. And and and I'd encourage you to not be timid about requesting legal services

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because Parks is part of this town, >> right? and they serve the town and and if there it seems like there are specific things that we could use legal counsel for, for example, the agreements between the leagues and the town in

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terms of what's expected of them. Yeah. So, I I just want to encourage you to to not be timid about, right? So, like I told you earlier, we do the agreements because the um select board has to do contracts. So, I'm not

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sure that the legal council is going to do agreements with us. They would do contracts. >> They would do a contract. It would become a legal, >> but that wouldn't that's not for us. If we want to ask the select board for their help on that, but that's a discussion we would have to have. >> The situation we're in with these ball

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fields tells me that that we need to get serious, >> right? But even doing one field a year at $30,000, it's still going to take you six years to do all the fields and then you're just going to have to start it all over again. >> Okay. I don't I don't

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>> There is I mean, my son played there for years. I don't I haven't been on one in a couple years now. But there is also there's ownership on the leagues too to like not build the field from the ground up

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but after each game they should be out there raking it like they should be trying to rebuild the mound so that someone doesn't twist their ankle >> because you can attest I know softball their bases in the mounds all come from your league

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>> they pile all that right >> and the the bases in the mounds have always come from our leagues, all of them. All I know is the pictures that I've looked at and and they're they're not good. I don't think anybody disagrees

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with you, but if you look at FLA, right, they're the sole responsible caretakers of Little Fenway and Freetown. They supply everything there. They cut the grass. They supply the bases. They supply the pitching things. Yes, they

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don't pay a fee. They lease it. the town, they're fortunate enough to have the town just like give it to them for their use. We can't do that here. I would love to be able to say use whatever you want, but we pay our own expenses. We can't do that. But they

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take no, like Krie said, there's no ownership here. They take care of everything there. They don't take care of anything here. >> So, it's time it's time to get some solutions and we're all up for it. And if you want to look into working on that warrant and

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we can get it on in November, figure out how to write a article, I'm all for it. >> An article to what? >> To put on the warrant to get voted on >> to get voted on >> to make Ted Williams camp a protected. I

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think it's chapter 91. I I'm surprised it hasn't been done already because it's been in question for ever. Like it was in the deed it was community recreational space

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and then once it was once the library was built then they it was a precedent that they already built here so why not build more? >> So this would be for November. >> Yep. The attorney would have to weigh in

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on the language. >> Yeah. >> And and that would allow you to apply for these grants in the spring and the fall. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It sounds simple.

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All right. Any other liaison reports? Any new business? I think so. I I think I have it all. on my little notes. Anything else anybody needs to discuss, talk about, whatever.

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All right. 719. Anybody want to adjourn? >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn at 7:19. >> I'll second. >> Any discussion? >> Um, all in favor? >> I I >> Perfect. Thank you everybody for joining us.