[Music] Good evening and welcome to the park commission meeting for October 23rd, 2025 at 6:30 at the Council on Aging. Lake Cam is recording. Is there anybody else recording?
Hearing none, we're gonna start with Andrew, our town administrator, and Lacy, our human resources, talking about a fitness center. Welcome, guys. >> Where do you want us to sit? >> Wherever you would like to, you can. There's a
>> microphone right there. So, >> hi. >> Okay. So, it's in our packet. You all have the presentation. So, um I would say maybe six months ago, the select board um kind of directed Lacy and myself to
look into a fitness court. Um they're kind of popping up here and there across uh the state and really the country. So, um we looked into it. Um did all the background stuff on it. um met with the people um and they they
look for the most hightraed areas um in the town. For us, it really only makes sense to have it Ted Williams, the kind of traffic they're looking for. Um and so we um submitted a grant for it. Um the total cost is about 270 grand or so.
Um, so to this date we've gotten about 40,000 and we have a few applications in to other grants as well as the community preservation committee funds. Um, and so we're hoping to put it at Ted Williams.
We don't exactly know where the location is going to be at this point in time. Um, I think we have like four or five maybe on this map. Um, but it's something that we think would help Ted Williams. It's more of an addition to the
capabilities of the park. Um, just speaking personally, I think, um, we're going to invest more in the park going forward, I think, across all three different locations that you guys have. Um, and I think this is probably one of
the first steps of Ted Williams. So, um, >> I can't see the on our map. Can any I where your locations are? >> One was across the volleyball courts from that south top. Then one was where
the um behind the police department. >> Okay. So >> soccer field is >> right. So behind the police department is soccer fields and we can't give up any of the Oh, wait. I do I see that one. So that one's out. The one across from the volleyball court. Oh, it's right here. That's We can't give up any
field. So that's out. So, the one that's not on there is that parking lot right next to the tennis court. >> Okay, >> that was the one that is not on there, but I personally really like that one because it's already level. It's already graded. It would just be putting the
pavement down and then dropping the structure on it. Uh, ADA accessible. You have the COA in walking distance of it, so they could walk over and do like their Zumba or their yoga. Um, and it's kind of away from where all of the other sports activities are. So, that's kind
of where I was looking >> through the chair. Is that behind the police station? >> Nope. So, it would be right here. >> It's where we were just talking about by the tennis courts >> here. >> Yes. So, here's the nozzle and agent. We're right here. So, they could just walk right through. You can see the
tennis courts right over there. >> It would be there. So, it's parking lot now. >> It is a parking. It's like an overflow parking lot from what I understand. >> Right. Um, so behind that parking lot is where there used to be a ice skating rink and I just measured and if you put it
lengthwise, it'll fit in that hockey area because we actually use that overflow parking lot gets used a lot more than you would think that it does for especially for smaller weddings and things. And I also measured the if you go if you
don't turn towards the tennis courts, you just turn and keep going. the road that goes from the tennis courts to the here the council on aging that's also long enough and just about wide enough that you could put it right there cuz it it's hard like every inch of the
green space is used for sports soccer and any of the overflow in the back gets used for all the other activities like dog walking and pet parades and somebody just wanted to put in a frisbee golf course and We were thinking back there
would be perfect for that. So, it's just hard to find the space first. And second of all, you know, do you know we have a fitness trail >> here? >> I do. >> You do? Okay. And did you look at the high school to see if there was a spot
over there? Cuz I know a lot of because I looked online and they said a lot of their schools use them for like their curriculum and their classes and their afterchool activities and things. We don't have any of that here. >> Yeah. So the there are some like regulatory guidance based off it in the
schools. You can't have it at like an elementary or middle school because it's really not geared towards that age. The fitness trail for me it's not that it's not ADA really accessible and people have to go. So this would give that you know more centralized
>> and being in Ted Williams camp they do look at like the heat map. So you're looking at adults that are going to go there if they want to go during the day and the kids are in school. Is that really adequate for them? So that's why we're trying to attract more people to to the to the camp.
>> Okay. Does anybody else have any questions? >> I would like to see more consensus. Uh you know I I haven't heard from residents that this is something they want or would use. I I'm concerned about it's a it's a pretty big project and
there's a fair amount of money involved. I'd like to know that people are going to use the thing really. Maybe it that could be incorporated in a survey to find out. That's what I'd like to hear. I'm not seeing evidence that people are going to use it. That's what I'd like to see.
>> Andrew, any questions? >> Um maintenance of it really like the question is that something that's like part of it? >> Yeah. So I also have the booklet. I asked that question too because I was concerned based off of, you know, who's going to keep do the upkeep of it
because everything is um a concrete and the bars are coated. It's a yearly maintenance just sweeping it off. There's no I mean you can power wash it if it really gets dirty, but there's no real you don't have to have people
coming out and like tighten and bolt. There's nothing like that in the structure that would need to be maintained at that level. What about snow and ice in the winter? >> Also asked about that. So, it's built to be outside and to withstand it. So, um I
don't know if you guys got it in your packet, but it does have a should show a map of Massachusetts and it shows all the sites that it's currently at. Um most of those have had it in place a little bit longer and have had no issues. So,
there's a map of where they're currently located. Um, yeah, it's it's built to last. It's it's not something that, you know, five years from now we're going to go, I can't believe we put this here. That's why we we looked at it. And it's free access
for people to get out there and get fit, right? And instead of having, you look at a gym membership right now, you're paying upwards of $50 just to walk in a door. this you go over and it has lanes and you can go through the lanes and you
can do uh you know an easy workout or you can do a more advanced workout. There's it's for all levels. It brings with it an ambassador which is a person that's dedicated to teach you know how to use the equipment and the different workouts. If you're uh a person that
really likes to be on your phone, it comes with a free app that you can go on and you download the app and it can give you your workout for the day. So, I just see it as being a way to get people outside and moving and and it's free. You don't have to join a gym, which is,
you know, a great thing. >> Carrie? >> No, I'm I think it's great. Um I've seen these actually. Uh both my kids play travel, baseball, softball. So I've been to a lot of town parks and I've seen them and the ones I've seen cuz if
you're there for like a whole tournament there all day, I've seen them pretty heavily trafficked. So I'm all for it. I think it's great. Um we had a chance to put a parkour course in a few years ago and we asked around and nobody was going
to use it. So, I've reached out to um the lady who does our boot camps in the park, but she hasn't got back to me yet. And I've reached out to I forget who else I reached out to, but I haven't reached out to John Miranda yet to see if he would be willing to use
it. I'm just not sure. I like the theory and as long as it doesn't encroach on any of the space that we need, great. Um, I'm also concerned about all the grants like because if we start looking at grants for Clear Pond or John Pond
Park, I'm concerned that if we get all these grants, we're not going to get any of those grants. And my concern is that, you know, all our parks need so much work that to spend $270,000 to bring something new in when we have
all this old >> stuff. That's a good >> That's my That's my only concern. >> Yeah. >> What do you think? >> So, my appeal of it is I think it provides something for >> everybody.
>> There's for everybody. Um but there's a lot between the soccer and the baseball for younger kids. The t um the basketball courts get heavily used, but it's a small area, right? Only so many people can be using them at one time. I
think it provides a spot for teens and even, you know, adults that are there while their kids playing soccer. They can get in a 20-minute workout if they want. Um, pass that over. >> Thank you. You're welcome. >> Yeah. I mean, I was looking at it from
the perspective of if we get the grants, we're not asking anybody to pay for it, right? And then if there's a space that is agreed upon, it's it's purely an upgrade to the park that's not costing
anyone anything, just >> allows for free >> workouts, >> which we all need >> and like I you know, and so the person that does the boot camp could absolutely utilize it to conduct classes. Uh like I
said, there there could be Zumba there at nights. There could be yoga there. There could be, you know, all these other activities. And it is geared towards, you know, we do have stuff for like the younger um people. We don't really have something for that
that age group and this would bring that for them. And I do like the idea of, you know, you're having like an all day so soccer tournament, you come over, you do like a 20-minut workout or whatever. through the chair. >> I do believe that you're asking CPC for
$100,000. >> I am. >> Okay. So, I I just want that clarified because when you say it's free, it's not totally free, but um and then there is the understanding that okay, so $100,000 is what you're asking. You may or may
not get that. And also how that affects funding for other projects. And I think your overview is important to have of the entire town parks, what we have now, what needs maintenance. John Pond needs
a lot. They need a lot of work. So, all things considered, >> yeah, my biggest issue is location, honestly. >> What um projects at John Parn are requested? Um, well, John Pond has nothing. Like, it has a swing set, but I
just took two of the swings down. So, literally it has two swings, and it's not ADA. It's not compliant with any anything. Um, so John Pond literally has nothing. It has the softball fields, but
they're not great softball fields. They get in the springtime, in the fall, they get wet. As soon as it rains, it gets wet. We seem to have a problem with water in Lakeville. Go figure. But yeah, >> from my perspective, I'm I'm willing to spend like let's spend money at John
Pond Park, but I haven't seen any requests come in like >> Well, the engineering plan just is underway, right? So hopefully when that comes back because it would be silly to put in a playground now to have the engineering plan come back and then you're like, you can't do this, you can't do that. >> These grants are on a constant cycle. Like if we skip a year, then that's one
year we miss somewhere else that yeah, we could do that next year at John Pond, but we we basically skipped a year and I don't I don't want to miss an opportunity to get funding at at one point >> in return. Yeah. So, we were working at John Pond and Cleopond with our town planner. >> Yeah.
>> Years ago and that's what started the whole let's apply for these grants, let's do this, let's do the engineering plans because that's your first step and then we lost our town planner. >> So, we don't none of us know how to write grants. So, it's just been like
two steps forward, one step back or sometimes three steps back. But, you know, so we'll work on that. I mean, the engineering plan will be done in the spring, so we'll work on that then. And Clear Pond 303.5 million. So, you know,
um, any questions, Scott? I know you just got in, but they're thinking about they would like to bring in under the select board's direction a fitness center, fitness thing. I'm just >> I think it sounds great. >> Yeah. But um we are very correct in in
John Pond and one of the things that that was being worked on was a building to house a bathroom >> and maybe some storage, >> right? >> And obviously we can't do that without water, you know. So I mean, you know, I mean there is the the the the u well
there, but I don't think it's all that good. >> Um so yeah, there's I mean that to me that's a priority. Those poor girls have gone and used portagons for the last 25 years. I I I truly think that that is a
big priority. I would really like to see these girls have a bathroom. >> I agree. Definitely agree. >> So, what is everybody thinking? >> As to where or in favor? General, I I don't think you've settled on a spot yet, correct?
Or you really want that spot by the tennis courts. Does somebody from the company have to make a decision? >> No, it it would be based on um we would tell them where we would go. I'd like it somewhere that's close enough that again
the COA if they wanted to utilize it would be able to kind of walk from the COA to that area and a little tucked away from you know the chaos that could be going on around. Um so anywhere in kind of that general area but that's that's just me. If there's a space that
the parks think is amazing. >> It's big. It's 38 ft by 76 ft. >> That's not that big. I mean, they cleared a spot for the ice rink. You know, >> it does scare me sometimes that we are
on the same wavelength. Yes. >> You know, I mean, I'm just saying there's a spot that's already started that was cleared and that's right there at the end of the parking lot next to the tennis court. Um, you know, I mean, I know some people would be upset if we took down a tree or
two, but I think that would be a minimal impact. You could go a little further if you needed to towards the street and not take out a lot. >> Well, there's a light pole at the end, but I measured it'll fit. >> Yeah. So, you come forward and you come
to the the parking lot. I don't know. I think you just check it out and see if it'll work. I mean, if if you know, if that's a location that you want to be near the senior center, that that's as good as anything right there. or even that grassy area between the parking lot
and the uh and the road >> through the chair. And I think you've applied for the supplemental funding from other sources. Is that right? >> We have. Yes. >> And um when do you expect to hear back from them?
>> CPC um obviously they they take a vote I think sometime in February, but then that would obviously be town meeting ultimately. My understanding was they were waiting to hear what you're getting from other grant so they have an understanding of >> we'll know some of them but we'll probably going to look for a park grant
which they won't award until probably July >> are you getting the Blue Cross Blue Shield grant >> you've already >> that one we received yes and then I put in that was 40,000 and then I also put in for the T-Mobile home
>> home what is it Hometown. >> Hometown rent. >> That was 50,000. That I should I believe I'm supposed to hear back in December on that one. >> Yes. That wouldn't be too much on the left. Then anybody want to make a motion
to approve? Anybody want to say no way in heck? What do you guys What's your pleasure? >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. >> Any further discussion? Not >> on the agenda. >> Oh, yeah. It's not on. Oh, we can't vote on it.
>> I'm I'm a nay. I'm a nay on it. I I just >> We haven't voted yet. >> No. >> Peter says we can't vote. It's not on the agenda, but we can give our wishes. >> Next meeting. >> Um, so Scott and Carrie are yay. Andrew, what are you thinking?
>> I like it. >> Yeah. >> Pending location. >> Pending location. So, yeah, we can officially vote next meeting and we will um let the CPC know our thoughts. >> All right. >> Pending location.
>> Yes. Pending location. >> Pending location. >> Just got to find a good spot for it. >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> Well, thank you guys very much for listening to us. >> Hey, thanks for coming. >> Have a good night, guys. >> Okay, going back to the top, we have no
announcements. review and approve park commission minutes for October 9th. Did anybody have a chance to look through? Did anybody find any errors, corrections, omissions
in here? So, anybody want a motion to accept the minutes of October 8th? >> I have a motion to accept the meeting minutes from October 9th. >> I second it. Any further discussion? All in favor? >> I I
>> All I minutes are accepted. >> Budget report. Did everybody go over the budget report? You find anything concerning? Nothing concerns anybody. Just to let you know, the new tractor is
in this is in this. >> Yep. I saw it. >> But I mean, it's in the It's It's been paid for. It's okay. >> It came in today, actually. And it's all nice and green and shiny. No duct tape at all on the seats yet. >> Oh, no. Green one. >> It's a green one.
Um, the question just won. Well, fundraiser gift revenue $500. Is that from Andrew's company's picnic? I believe so. I could >> No, that's fine. >> I'm pretty sure. >> I was just curious.
>> Y that would be it. >> Okay. >> So, we're on pretty good track. Um, if you look under the equipment on the second page, it has the $11,000 for the tractor, which puts us at a $6,000
deficit for that equipment line item. But if you circle back up to building and grounds repairs and maintenance, which is what the tractor is used for, we have $21,000 left. Hopefully, we won't need all that money.
>> Wasn't that the roof is already paid for? >> Fertilizer goes through. >> The roof is already paid for. Yes. >> The fertilizer >> could be a springtime, >> right? Does come out of there. But last year it was like $6,000. But in last year we paid for soccer. >> Correct.
>> Correct. Spring we paid for soccer. So there should be less should be less >> unless we do a grip control and two lockers >> which we need to do a grip control. And the other thing that we're going to
need to think about, I just going to throw this out there only because I thought of it again is for the next budget. Um striping the lines in the parking lot. are gone >> in the commissioner's field parking lot. >> No, over here >> or the soccer parking lot. >> This t spark parking lot at um John
Morando's at the fitness at the karate studio. >> All right. Maybe we can get a discount on straping all the lines. >> We're just going to have to get estimate or look back at what we paid before. Although that didn't last very long. >> I wasn't here last meeting, but the
meeting before that we circled back on the water line at Commissioner's Field. one was going to look into it, but it's starting to get cold. Like, did we resolve that? >> Can't do anything until they're done playing soccer. >> I reached out to Mike Smith because he
was the one that was spearheading this and he said that um Mr. Clancy was already on board for that. I I guess but that we need to contact
a I guess well electrician obviously to the electric. >> Yeah. >> You know, can they go in the same trench? Do they have to be separate trenches? >> Um and the other one is for the water. I don't know if you're bringing a plumber. I would think more irrigation person >> irrigation
>> would be the one you'd want to talk to about that. Um, but those still have to be >> Okay. >> Otherwise, it's not going to happen till the spring. But, uh, when does the money run out? >> Um, it doesn't. It stays until it's
done. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. So, I can call Rightway Irrigation and see if they're the ones who would bring the water line over. >> Mhm. And they may know if we need one trench or one for electricity and one for >> they would probably know.
>> Oh, >> and I don't know if we want the town electrician. I think it might be a little more than what he could handle, but I don't know. >> Um, it's a company now. It's not just >> Oh, it's Is it the company out of New Bedford? Paul River.
>> MV Electric. >> MV Electric. I I know Paul. >> Yeah. >> I coached his kid for about 12 years. Yeah, they they're a full-blown company, so they could handle it. >> But do you think they would do both sections or just the plumbing?
>> MV Electric would do the electric. >> Oh, sorry. Irrigation is the plumbing. >> Nope. >> All right. So, Scott, you want to call or do we have to go through Paul for that or do you think we call them ourselves? >> I have no idea. Check with Paul. >> I'll check with Paul.
>> Okay. Let's check with Paul and find out if we just put a line up >> organize everything or if he's going to do it >> right. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, no other questions in the budget report.
>> Good job remembering. >> Um Okay. So, last time we discussed Red Hand Brewing Company, but we didn't vote on it. So, Red Hand Brewing Company wants to come and sell beer at the Christmas stroll, and we said he could as long as he had other beverages to go
along with the beer. So, does anybody want to make a motion to allow him providing he goes through the select board and gets all the permits that he needs to get? I'll make a motion that we allow Red Hand Brewing to sell beers, other beverages at the Christmas stroll
provided they get the appropriate permits through the town >> and provide non-alcoholic alternatives too. >> Yeah. >> Right. Said other >> second. >> Second. >> Okay. All any further discussion? All in favor? I
>> I >> Okay. So that'll get through that job description for Clear Pond director. The high highlighted areas who seconded that I'm sorry. >> Um Scott, >> all of the highlighted areas are the
ones that were added. >> Did this already go through the soft? >> No. Human resources. Why? >> Last time we made changes to it, it had to go through the select >> select board. Well, once we say this is
it, then we'll give it to Lacy. And then if she needs to put it through, what what do they make per hour? >> Whatever step they're at. >> Yeah. So, I'm not sure because they
would probably be entering on step one. So, it's probably like $20 an hour. I don't know though, so don't hold me to that. It just stresses it's a seasonal position. They have to work with the
park commission for improvements and increasing revenue at Clear Pond. This is a really detailed I did talk to Lacy and she thought that we might be better off doing two 25-hour positions instead of one 40-hour
position. That way people would still have their summers to do summer things >> like co-directors. >> Yeah. >> Or a director and a >> assist director. Yeah. I like that. You could run into a problem if you have two
people with the same title. >> Mhm. Yeah. So that's what we have here is an assistant and a co a director and a co assistant director. [Applause] Anything else? Anything we forgot?
It also changed um meeting um coming to meetings. It used to be once a month and instead it's um as needed as requested. So page two says a total of 9 weeks.
>> It's open for a total of nine weeks. They have a week >> and they have a week >> prior. >> In the middle there it says a week prior and a week after. >> So it should actually be 11. >> It says in the middle of >> commence a week before the opening in
order to prepare the park and at the end and will end after the park is closed. Oh, right. I didn't read. Sorry. >> That's okay. >> Yeah. So if they need like if we close on Saturday but things aren't done they
can still work on Sunday and if to finish everything up but if they history it's been closed right on closing day reevaluate keeping within payroll budget and
submitting time sheets to the liaison at the end of each payroll period and using forms on the computer keeps me out of this position. comment keeps what >> me out of that position submitting forms on the computer.
>> Peter has to print them out. I have to sign them and he scans them back in. >> I know it's [Applause] okay. Anybody want to make a motion to submit this application to human resources so they can get it out first
of the year? I'll make a motion to submit this to human resources so they can get it out January 1st. >> Second. >> Second. >> We'll give that one to Andrew. >> Any further discussion? All in favor?
>> I I send that to Lacy. Okay. Continue discussion of league fees. Um, Peter or Andrew, either one of you want
to speak to this. >> Um, I just looked at it really kind of messed with the values thing that Peter was. >> So, this per player fee of $5 and per
field hour fee of $5. That's where all these numbers come from. Yes. Yes. And uh I if you plead at all with the spreadsheet that I sent you, you change those figures and
every everything else >> everything else changes. >> Changes. >> I tried to but I couldn't. >> Yeah. Yeah, when I was looking at it, the player fee, um, like right now when you look at the per field court fee, it
just it's a large increase across the board really besides some select ones. So, >> yeah, the whole >> my first thought was maybe reducing that change um like where the per player fee is closer to that 25 value and the per field hour fee is closer to like the
lower value like $1 or something. Um, and then it makes it, you know, not as drastic of a change in like our >> So, you want to change the per player fee to $20 an hour? >> Um, yeah, it could be 20 and then like
the per field hour for you one and that that makes it like closer and it just sort of starts like, you know, seeing how it could >> And did you put that into your computer? >> I did 15 and two. >> What' that come out to? >> Um,
>> you don't remember? Yeah, I can tell you anything you want. >> So, can you put in um $20 per player fee and $1 for field hour fee, >> please?
>> Yes. And it results in a total of 42,240 $2. >> Okay. >> But obviously if you want to look at specific, >> right? So the first one, Freetown Lake Soccer Club, what percent increase decrease did that bring it to?
>> In soccer club goes up two and a half, two 2.6%. Uh well, two 2.6 for the first season, season one. I don't know why the difference 15.2 for the season two. I don't it has to do with
>> I'm not sure what the difference was in co-ed volleyball because that was up >> because the schedule is >> number of weeks is not as many weeks in the second run. Yeah, it's got >> so the hours will be less, >> right? Yeah. So, uh the um women's soccer goes down in both cases by about
16 to 17%. 16 to 17%. FLA goes up aboutund, >> right? You can't count that though. >> And >> yeah, I mean, if we charge them $14,000, we'll lose them completely. >> Yeah. >> I guarantee it. They'll go to free town completely. Mhm.
>> And we'll get nothing. Yeah. >> Well, there's Yeah, there goes up to under this under this model of 20 $20 in one, there's goes up to >> what is it? They're basically just $9,000. So, it's almost tripled,
>> right? So, >> these numbers are also using all the hours they request, >> right? They would they would request >> they wouldn't, right? They would not request as many hours. You know what's hard with theirs is even
at $20 per player 6,000 just right off the start if you >> fora. Yeah, >> but keep in mind you can phase the us. But uh yeah,
>> but if we just charged them the $24 that everybody else is getting charged right now, they're still puts them over $6,000. >> Yeah, they'd be at 7,000. Yeah. 8,000 range. They'd be closer to the soccer club.
>> Yeah, which I mean they have more players in the soccer club, so they should be. But I think the leagues will play with these numbers and figure out how much >> they have more than 220 kids in the
fall. I don't care what they say. We used to have 600. >> What? >> Over 600, >> right? So, I I just played with a few numbers and our annual field costs just for the
fields, the lights, and the portaotties, it's $72,000 a year it costs us. So, this with the 20 25 league charges, it brought in $37,000.
So that makes the leagues our you renting our leagues cost us $32,000 is what we lost. And then combine that with the $32,000 we lost at Clear Pond, we've lost
$65,000 this year on services, >> right? But you got to look also look at the new costs that we've assumed. One being that the the the border parties at Commissioner Field. We never paid for porter parties at soccer. >> No. >> Before. >> No. Or softball. They used to do it
themselves >> and and we used to either split it or they paid it at softball. >> Yep. >> I mean there's a there's a big chunk of money that we're assuming, >> right? And that all that doesn't include any
maintenance, not even getting the ground, the fill or the sand >> or the mix or replacing sprinkler heads consistently. >> Um, >> which port used to be paid by someone >> unclogging. Like that doesn't include any of that.
>> So, we're never going to make all that money back. You're just not going to. The hope is just to get it a little bit closer. >> Little League you I mean the I feel like the for little league the per player fee
being lower might help them. And then because the hour fee they don't they the hour fee is so high for them but they don't use the fields actually that >> well that that's that's the thing you got to remember there's 300 kids but they only play part of the time here. >> Right. And that's the key, right?
Because >> soccer, they play 100% here. >> If they can whittle down their hours, then we can bring in another league. >> Yeah. >> Even a kickball league. >> Yeah. >> So, in their case, you would want more like a, you know, maybe like a $10 per player fee and then per field hour rate,
$3 or something. I don't know how that would look on the sheet there. >> Get that, Peter. >> What's that? >> A $10 player per player fee >> for Yeah. And you have to do the same for everybody. >> Yeah. >> Per field hour as $3.
>> $10 per player and $3 for field hour. Okay. That brings you a total of $49,000. >> That's a big jump for one year. >> Yeah. So maybe 10 and two. >> But that's total that's
>> But that really jumps up Lia to almost $12,000, >> right? >> Which they're not going to pay because they're going >> they're not. But I don't think all 300 of their kids are going to come and play over here. >> No, they don't.
They've got three little league fields over there in Freetown where they play most of their games. >> Didn't you say through the chair? Didn't you say, Scott, that one of the reasons they do that is because they've got a nice snack bar? Yeah, >> we got to get a snack. We got to get a snack bar.
>> Oh, we have a snack bar, but they choose not to use it because it's small. >> And they're not here consistently enough to use it, >> right? And they're not here all the time where they have three fields going plus a Babe Ruth field. They have four fields going all the time. The overflow comes here,
>> right? >> This is used as an overflow field, >> right? >> It's not used as a primary field and a practice field. and an overflow field, you know. Um, I mean, they took the the one softball field they had over there and converted it to a baseball field.
>> Yep. >> That's why the girls are playing with our girls on John Pond >> and they have KRR in it now. >> That's right. >> Peter, ours is $10 and $2. Look. >> Well, you keep playing with it, don't that's what you do.
>> That is the beauty of Excel >> cuz theirs is it at 3,000. So it would be $10 per play. It would be 3,000 again. But then it's just >> how many hours are they going to be using the fields? >> They'd have to they'd have to trim their fat. >> Yep. >> On the fields because right now it's at
3,000 hours. >> Yeah. >> Two is $6,000 right there. >> Yeah. >> Right. So they're paying $5.51 per core hour. >> I agree. Oh, I agree 100%. And it's always been Todd launch, you know, we
just we we want all the fields from April to June, >> right? Every daylight hour. >> Can you put in $10 and $2, please, Peter? >> I just did. >> And >> And what do you what do you have? The total or >> total? Yeah, just the >> 38,
>> which is the same as we're getting now. >> Mhm. >> So 10 and two is equal to what we get now. Right. But it it skews it because baseball would go to >> 9,000. >> Just under nine, right? >> Y would probably end up
>> losing them. >> Because they would whittle down their hours. >> Yeah. But if they have 150 kids instead of 300 kids, what is that? Brings it to what? It brings prime 4500. >> But I mean, they can't identify it that
way. They have that many kids that play. you know, team A comes over here and practices and then next week it's team B and then team C and D play a game over here. I mean, it's not, you know, I mean, probably all the kids come here at at one time or another,
>> right? What if you swap >> how many times? >> $2 per kid and $10 per field hour. >> 3,000 field hours. They'd have to >> um that is uh >> those $30,000 ends up $116,000.
>> Woohoo. >> Which is isn't going to happen. >> You might want to watch. >> Did I say if we just charge everybody $49 for perfec? >> I love that. >> All right. So, that that's not going to work. >> What are we charging per player right now?
>> 25 2450. See, >> it's 2450. >> It's 25 right now. >> It's 25. So, if you did 25 per play of fee and $1 per field hour. No, cuz you have 3,000 hours. So, that still isn't going to work.
>> No, you have 13,000 hours. 11,000 hours. I really liked 15 and two when I was doing it, but it it just the only one that really is like, you know, there's some that go up because they're uses more and there's some that go down, their use is less, >> which is what we're looking for, right?
>> Um, and the number increases are about 42 or something. >> Um, at 15 and two total, it's almost 46, just under 46. Um, >> but the the little league one is just obviously goes that way,
>> right? >> Probably go down to a quarter >> if they really trimmed it to what it should be. So just um okay just
if you're looking at the the spreadsheet two the uh the way I've got this hybrid model set up at the moment and again all this is just silly enough playing with things
but that that doesn't include any separate fees for fertilizer electricity or or any of those kinds of things >> on the hybrid model, >> right? It's not I didn't put it in there just okay. >> So, um again, doesn't mean you can't put it in there,
>> but uh just to to simplify looking at this, that's what I that's the way I put it together. So I mean there's a lot of questions uh to consider is uh you know do you want to build the model such that you're
not so that so that you no longer have to deal with fertilizer fees and electric fees. So sort of built into the cost. Um or you still want to add that on >> in which case it's going to be um you know uh
>> well I think life would be so much easier if we included that in the price. I think it's it'd be best if I mean the only thing where that doesn't seem to apply as much is you have two fields that have lights
>> and and all the others don't. >> Well, like how do you in volleyball don't they don't get fertilizer fees, right? >> You're right. >> So, but so you have one you one of the leagues, one of the teams, you know, playing under the lights and others not.
So how do you reflect that? >> I think you Yeah. >> Yeah. And if volleyball's cost went to $1,100, they'd find another place to play, too. >> No. Yeah. >> I'm just saying. >> No, no, you're right. I mean, it went up 250%. And I know they have a hard time now,
>> right? But I also know a lot of places do like for smaller leagues of like 50 or less or 75 or less, they have a different a different price scale than the ones
that are 85, 100, 200, 300 people. >> And and and like horseshoes and volleyball are two different animals because there's no fertilizer fee, right? >> It's just an electric small electric fee, >> right? And they also don't use the maintenance.
The only thing that our maintenance people do is they um cut the grass and horseshoes which is like a half hour project instead of >> not much. >> Yeah. There's no bunker raing. There's no
>> No, they take care of their own >> weed whacking. So I mean this is so yeah this is >> hard. >> It is very difficult. So I mean one one way to one way to look at this whole thing is is is to
ask the question are we temp are we playing around with the whole thing simply because we have an inequity with FLA in other words should that just be the one that we look at and and leave the rest as it is
>> through the chair >> I wonder if this could be a question or a problem that could be presented to chat GPT or artificial intelligence. >> That's where we got the hybrid model from. >> Okay. Well,
I guess what I'm saying is to find out what a good algorithm would be to use for the formulas to generate these the ask about a formula. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I go Okay. Go ahead.
Me personally, I I mean I think if you're risking losing all these long-term leagues like volleyball and >> baseball >> I think well baseball I think we've all said for a long time needs to be
addressed that they weren't par paying their fair share comparatively. So, I think me personally, I think we just address baseball and make them more level playing field with the pun intended with the other leagues
>> or have them cut down their hours >> or that so that we can rent the fields to other >> I I think a better way to go only for the simple fact that for the amount of time those kids are on those fields, >> we're doing okay because >> it may say 300,
>> but we're lucky if there's 50 kids on those fields a I I mean when I go through here a lot of times none of the baseball fields are even being used, >> right? >> Yeah. You can come down like with your kid and do hitting >> practice and stuff. >> Yeah. I mean, so I I don't know.
>> But the same thing in that same vein is with soccer and softball, too. >> It's every daylight hour. >> Mhm. >> I think we just need to crack down on that. But they're investing a lot in the fields, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Soccer is soccer. Yeah,
>> softball does too. >> Yep. >> They do. They do. They've been doing work down there. >> They're really >> They're really Parker. I mean, baseball used to, >> right? >> And they have done nothing. >> Well, everybody in the last Yeah. But no, but but softball's still doing
things. Soccer's still doing things. >> I got men's softball trying to do things. you know, um even if it's just that one field because that's the only field they play on and it's better than nothing. >> But baseball hasn't done anything since
they merged and went over to free time. They haven't had a field day here since. And we It used to be a field weekend. There was equipment here. There was, you know, stone dust being moved and and and
and dirt and baselines being cut and the outline of the outfield. You remember you were always around. >> So >> there was all kinds of work being done here and that hasn't been done since they emerged. If the league I'm just not about fees, but if the league's not going to do
that, can not that we have time I don't have time to do this myself, but like can parks put out like the high school like kids in honor society need volunteer hours? Like could we just put out a call for volunteers? >> We can, but you got to you got to have
someone to organize it. >> Yeah. >> Know what needs to be done and can organize these kids, right? Yeah. >> And would they have to be here, >> right? >> Like this, >> right? >> I mean, it's it's a great idea. Don't
get me wrong. I, you know, anytime we can get >> some some some free work is is fabulous, >> but, you know, maybe we present it to, >> you know, little league and say, "Hey, look, you've done nothing down here. your fees are going to go up because
we've got to pay to have those fields maintained unless you come in here and start doing a field day. >> I because I know they do a field day over a field day should get them out of like they should pay their fair share, >> right? They've been getting a big deal.
>> They have, >> but these numbers aren't really true, >> right? M >> 300 is the number of the total kids at the program, but they're lucky if >> 25% of them play over here at any particular time. And I'm not saying that's fair. I'm not I'm not saying
>> but that's why we went to the flat fee because they were having a hard time trying to figure out how how to legitimately >> Well, and the other thing I think we really need to we've talked about it and we haven't really followed through with I think that
every league is a league. Cardinals needs to be filing their own form, paying their own fees. Same with the Free Lake softball flash travel team like >> Yes. Yeah. So, some of the towns do a
spring, a summer, and a fall thing that would kind of cover the softball. >> We used to have three >> in the baseball. >> Um I think the soccer I think it goes as the same time as another league >> because I spent I spend a lot of time on
their website. >> Mhm. Soccer ends when school ends. >> Soccerccions school ends >> in the spring. >> So it goes from April to June. Yes. And then the fall is >> September.
>> September to November. >> Yep. Beginning of November. Yeah. >> Yes. And then they have their clinics in July. And then they have the travel team. So the fall only goes U4 to U10. And then the travel team is U8 to U14.
So that's I couldn't find the travel team registration. So I that's why I think there's some overlap because there's no fall for the older kids. >> But they used to be there used to be a travel program for the kids. >> Yeah. So I think like softball for their
travel team or winter league or whatever it is they call it, you have to be on the spring >> Yes. >> team. Yes. So, they spray a spring fee and they pay their travel fee. >> They should, but they're not >> right. Not to us, but the parents do.
And they register. >> Yes. >> So, I think every registration form that they have with a fee should >> include a fee to us. >> Include a fee to us. Yes. >> Agreed. >> And I think that'll make a difference, too. >> Yeah.
>> All right. So, let's go to FLA. So, $25 for all the teams that practice at Ted Williams camp. Not all their players registered for their league because there are only ones that are two towns.
How do you want to play that? >> They're not the only one that's two towns. >> Softball is too. >> Oh, yeah. Free Lake. Yep. >> And so is in soccer. >> Yeah, they all are. >> They all are. But do they all play just here? Except softball now plays at >> Softball plays at John Pond
>> exclusively. >> No, they don't. No, they they got KR. >> Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. They did. They did. They did. But soccer plays here. >> Yep. >> Women's soccer plays here. Samurai Well, Samurai plays away games, so they only played half the season here.
>> Um, men's softball plays all their games here. Free Lake softball now has some some time over at whatchamacallit. Women's Blue Ball plays at John Pawn exclusively. Co-ed plays exclusively. And horseshoes and volleyball, they play exclusively.
>> So, are you looking to charge all 300 of their players the $25 fee? >> Well, that's why we didn't because it was going to be difficult to assess because they don't all play here, >> right? And I'm not saying it's the right
formula, but >> then maybe it goes >> they have to adjust their hours. They have to they have to specific specifically say when they're going to be here. They can't just say April 1st to June 30th all fields.
Yeah. >> Or else or else if he's going to that makes sense because it's the only way that you can generate any revenue from these fields which you you you have to you have to maximize >> because they're paying one registration fee.
>> Yeah. >> And it's being split between here and Freetown >> and majority of their games and practices are in Freetown. >> H >> how do you designate it? I don't know. But I think that's where the the hourly
model is like solves that. But because we don't have an accurate >> hours, it's really hard to determine 25% of that fair amount is >> right. What if you can you change soft um FLA's numbers
to 150 and see what it comes out to be? So, uh, under what model do we are you running? >> Um, well, I think it changes them on both, but I was looking for the hybrid model, >> but I mean, but what I'm saying is is 15 and two or is it 25 and and
>> Well, with 15 and two, which we had been looking at before. >> Yep. That was the last one. >> Okay. their uh total goes up to 8,000. >> What if their um hours gets cut in half? >> That's what I was just going to
>> We'll actually go like 25% of it. >> Yeah, that's what >> was 500 hours instead or No, 25%. >> Well, let's see. So, um >> and keep the 300 >> 750. >> Put 750 >> for what? >> Hours. >> All right. So, >> total hours.
>> I mean, they're at 3,000 now. >> I know. put them at 750. >> Well, that's probably more in line of what they use >> a quarter of the time. >> Yeah. >> I mean, when you drive by and there's no one playing on any of the fields on a night. >> Okay. It goes up to 3,750.
>> It's not that big of an increase. >> No, that's what they're paying now. >> Yeah. >> With with fertilization and electric fee, they're paying 37.41. And that's the 152 model. >> That's still with 300 kids.
>> No, that was 150. I put it back to one 300. >> Yeah, put it back to 300 because we cut the hours back. >> 300. And you want how many hours? >> 750. >> It's a third roughly. No, it's a quarter. >> Quarter. >> Quarter. It's a It's an It's a It's an
even 6,000. Next, the prayer player fee is still 15. >> Just keep in mind right now they're paying it with their electric fee and fertilizer fee and all that they're paying 37
3750 >> increase. >> So, it's an increase of 60%. >> Right? >> $2,300. six. And how does everybody else fair with
the 152? [Music] >> Well, let's see. The biggest hit that way goes to CO volleyball, which really jumps them up quite a bit.
>> Jumps down quite a Jeff them up 76% to uh yeah they they go up >> to what? >> To 618. >> What what sport? Oh, color volleyball. Volleyball. Volleyball. They don't pay that much to begin with.
>> And then uh let's see. Free free lake softball goes up 51%. Yeah, basically they go up 50% if you like softball. >> That's better than 160%. >> So 5200 >> soccer blooper ball goes down 44%.
>> What about soccer? >> Soccer. >> Soccer 20 to 30% up. Oh, and then women's soccer about 30% down. >> So that's closer to what we are looking
for than What? This one? The $5 and $5. >> This is 152. 15 and two, >> right? But your whole paper, >> right, >> is five and five. And the 152 seems to be closer to what we're looking for.
>> Yeah. I mean, if you're looking to take away the F fee and the electric fee, I mean, it was a prime example. Baseball went from 37.41 to what' you say 30 3700. >> I mean, it it took out the That's 6,000.
>> 6,000. >> Oh. Oh, that was with the 150. That's right. >> Which maybe for them that makes sense if you're going to look at them separate. >> Yeah. I mean, >> they do play if they're playing a quarter of the hours and it's half the kids then that
would be fair, I suppose. >> Right. If they had half the kids. >> Yeah. >> That brought it to 3,700. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. That's right. 150 did. >> Yeah. >> And I mean, it's kind of tough when you're splitting
the fee. >> Yeah. Well, uh, they lease their fields. It's a long-term lease. >> Yeah. You know how much they pay? >> They're $1. Well, then they really then they're really not splitting.
>> Well, the fee goes for equipment and umpires and >> field maintenance all in free time, right? They pay what? $1 >> where >> fields. Same at KR for softball. >> That's all they pay for the whole
>> Yep. That's what football pays, too. >> How How does that work? >> The town they they But they have to assume all costs. The town doesn't do anything. >> Nothing. >> Okay. >> They used to come down and mow the
fields down in Freetown because one of one of my soccer fathers who worked on the Freetown. So he would make sure they get m Oh, >> swing by. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> But I mean they don't they don't do anything. >> The association pays everything.
>> All right. >> Where it's a whole different model cuz here we we mow the fields, >> right? >> We don't line them. We don't >> you know do the other stuff. But so it it's >> it's tough. >> Apples and oranges. It's hard.
>> Apple apples and oranges and bananas. >> Apples and banana. Bananas. >> Yeah. Something's got to change. Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's any one formula that works well for everybody. >> For everybody. >> Yeah, >> that's sort of the idea. It's going to change people's because we're trying to
make it more fair across where like if I'm only using a field once a month or once, not that extreme circumstance, but once a month and I'm paying the same amount as somebody using the field every day. That's what we're trying to make a little bit more fair, >> right?
>> So, it's going to change things. >> Yeah. All right. So, does everybody want to play with their spreadsheet and use like 152 as what? >> So, what is this running at right now? >> What is what
>> the original one that you that came out? >> $5 and $5. >> The one that you have in front of you. >> Oh, okay. I didn't see that. >> It's a little teeny tiny print. I tried to make it bigger. It didn't work. I >> didn't. It's in printer needs ink.
And then 152 brings it up from what we have now is 37841 including those fees, >> right? >> And it brings it to 46,000. >> No. >> Well, let's see. It depends. Um but if
you go back to uh uh >> 300 >> you know the uh >> FLA >> the original hours for FLA yes it's 46,000 but as soon as you put drop it down to uh 750
then then that goes down to 41,460. So, it's basically it's a $4,000 increase in total, >> right? >> And then if you decide to do 150 kids for uh FLA,
>> that drops it down to >> that drop it to >> 3750. So, another three grand. >> Yeah. Probably back to where we are. >> 28 something, right? >> 38 something. >> Yeah. I mean, that increase to 41,000 is like going up $2.50 a place, right? >> That's nothing.
>> Yeah. something. >> So maybe we take FL AAA out of the equation. >> Well, I think so. I think you have to probably take take them out one way or another. Either focus entirely on them trying to figure out how to
>> how to do something different with them and leave everything else the way it is or uh well and take them out and then adjust. You still have to deal with them, but you know, look at the formula for the rest of them and see how that That's what I was going to say. See what
the the overall percentage increase is without them. >> Yeah. >> Whether it's 152 or 13 250 or whatever numbers you use. And then maybe just assess an increase percentage increase. >> Right.
>> Because they're on a separate thing. They're not paying per player. They're paying a flat fee. >> Right. >> We had them and we had the volleyball which was too bad we lost that. But um you know >> so you're saying um
>> if we pulled them out of the equation, >> right? >> Right. And then and then came up with a a a good number where teams aren't leagues aren't going up by $6,000. You know what? >> Right. you know, so maybe the the amount
goes to 152 or it goes to I'm just saying 132 and a quarter or right or something like that that we can get an equitable amount where there's a raise >> and then see what the overall percentage increase is and then apply that to to to baseball >> maybe like the percentage of soccer and
softball because those are the other two biggest leagues >> or or we take the overall percentage we so you got some going up and some going down >> the average, >> right? and you and you take that average increase percentage on what we settle on and then just apply that to baseball. >> Okay?
>> So, if there's a 10% increase, then it's just a 10% increase. >> Mhm. >> You know, because they're they're they're paying a flat fee now, >> right? >> They're a separate animal. We got to pull them out, >> right? >> Everybody else is on a per hour basis. I mean, a per player basis, right? >> They're not. >> Ease them back in or something.
>> All right. So, I'll try to go to the library and see if I can play with this. Well, I just Okay, so I just copied the sheet and uh for to play around with this and I and then I and I took out FLA. >> Okay, >> so just um uh
under that under that formula >> 152. >> Okay, I can do 152. So the uh the total charge when you take take FLA out >> total charge for last year was 34,100
total income for Latin for >> and then the total income under the hydro bottle with 152 is 35,460. So barely nudges the needle up. It just >> right. But what's that percentage?
>> Right. And that's with the no the fees already included, >> right? >> So four and four and a half% increase. >> So in that Yeah. Well, um, >> all right.
>> Play with us some more. >> Yep. To be continued. >> And, uh, >> but this was a fun a fun spreadsheet. >> Well, that's a neat part about about Excel. You know, you can drop in numbers and change things. So, we'll keep working on it to see what
But, uh, >> yeah, >> I think part of it is, and yeah, I think you you touched on it, Scott, is that, um, trying to make it fair. >> I mean, you said, for example, that um,
>> you think that the numbers for soccer are are lower than they they really are. do. >> Yeah, >> they do. >> Okay. >> But they turn in rosters, right? >> Well, they don't all do that. That's the thing.
>> Um the other thing we need to >> just think about before next time is a um a fee like a late fee for not turning in the rosters is supposed to be in. The payroll is supposed to be in. We shut down, we went
from 60 days down to 30 days and it's still not in. >> The same thing goes for um Lakeville Mixed Martial Arts and Loon Pond Lodge. >> Yeah. >> Getting their bills in on time because in the budget
um that we looked at earlier, did that include October for Lon Pond Lodge? You >> mean the budget report? >> Yeah. Yes, it did. But not for uh >> mixed martial arts, not for martial
arts, right? >> Philippines. >> Yeah. Okay. How about liaison updates? >> Any liaison updates? >> I have no um from CPC. Um, you know, at the last meeting,
unfortunately, the the handicap mats are not eligible. It's real unfortunate because they're so useful. >> Yeah. Yes. That was disappoint. >> That's what my face looked like when I >> I was surprised. I was surprised at
that. >> Yeah. But um that's what they do is they'll they'll take the application and they submit it to CPC and it's because it's a state program they get to say yay or nay, >> right? >> But other than that, that was the update
there. And then I think we're the the fit, you know, fitness presentation that came tonight. We went over that and and CPC is waiting to hear what other funding they've been approved
for because that'll factor into that application. January starts round two, the step two of the application. So, and they had four projects and out of those four projects only two got to move forward. The Lacy and Andrews and the tombstones.
>> Yeah. >> Tombstone fixing at one of the cemeteries. >> Yeah. Those are rolling forward. Those are rolling forward. But um that's that's the update there. Okay. I have um trunk or treat. So
um through working on the Christmas stroll, um we can't close the driveway, our driveway, without having a police detail. So we've always closed our driveway. We've closed our driveway for Lakeville Day and we've closed our driveway for
trunk or treat without a detail. So now because it's come to his attention that we don't haven't had a detail and we closed the driveway, we now have to have a detail. So for Lakeville Day and for trunk or treat and for the Christmas stroll, we have to
have police details. A police detail is $258 per session and a session is four hours per one detail. So if you close both ends of the driveway, you may need two details. So now you're talking about
$516. >> Can we rope off the pocket >> and with cones and so that the road is still open? >> Some beautiful new cones. >> We have 12 really nice cones. I mean, I'm just trying to save. I mean, that's I mean, we're not making any money on
trunk or treat and and fork out >> $300 a pop. >> Yep. So, >> that's um we can't he can work with us if we're only closing part of it and we can just use one detail. >> Can someone just open?
>> There's no way that you can't >> have one detail. >> I I totally understand. >> You have to have a detail. You have to have a detail >> if you close the road. >> Well, if we're not closing the road. >> All right. So, for trunk or treat, we didn't close the road. We always close the road,
>> but he said, "You ain't going to need a detail." >> So, you didn't close it. >> And I didn't close it because I'm like, >> "You don't have Where do you want me to >> pull that money from?" >> Right. No. >> So, I didn't close the road. And then um an email went today because somebody
asked somebody whatever and they said it was a um it was a scary situation because so many killed children almost got hit by the cars going by >> speeding >> something on that and you know you've seen people come through but the people
were there. So to my nobody said anything to about me personally about it being hair raising or scary or children almost being hit but I didn't want to close I didn't want to keep the road open. I just didn't there
was no option. It was cancel the event or >> where do people park if you close the road? >> If we close the road we close it after each parking lot. So after the main parking lot so that people can come in and go out and we close it after um the
soccer parking lot so people again can come in turn around and go back out. >> Mhm. >> So it's just the part from the maintenance shed all the way to Lon Pond Lodge because for Lakeville Day people are going back and forth between >> Oh yeah. the event
>> Lon Pond Lodge. >> There were just too many people walking across the street. >> Yeah. But people were going right through those cones on legal day. >> Yeah. Well, >> they were driving right around. >> Yeah. You can't you can't >> because there was no police officer
standing there, >> right? So So when I ask for in January when I ask for $600, $700 budget for Lakeville Day, you're going something you should think about now whether lake continuing
Lakeville Day is worth >> the expense. The expense. >> Yeah, the expense is significant. >> Yeah. And the same thing with trunk or treat. I would hate to lose trunk or treat, especially over $300, but like I feel like they're putting it on us. Like
I don't know. >> It's hard to justify putting all the energy into a day like that knowing that all of a sudden $500 is going out the back end of it, >> right? >> When you're not even getting any money in. when you're not even getting any
money in. Exactly. >> And I understand service and I understand community service and I love the community events. However, I feel like we're the only ones doing them. >> Yes. >> So, I don't feel like we I mean, I just we just went over we're losing $70
$70,000 between our two parts. And I feel like >> a little bit more and nobody else if it's not worth anybody else chipping in to do these events. >> I just feel like we're all alone. >> And >> we're the only ones willing to lose
money. Like we lose money on the arts council. We lose money on >> every event that we do. >> Through the chair at the budget meeting with Bob Nunes that wasn't that long ago. The pressure was on generate money. generate money and it's very hard to do
that if you're getting an expense like that. >> Well, not only that, they turn around and tell you, "Oh, you can't do that. You can't have fundraising. Oh, you can't do, you know, it's like they tell you to generate money, but then they tell you you can't do it that way, >> right?
It's a problem." >> Yeah. So just something for everybody else to sit on for a little bit because we have until January before that and also our budget will start being due I assume in January >> probably.
>> So all fun things to look forward to at the first of the year. >> So we can't fund sorry last question. We can't fund raise but like you can sell things. It depends. Like >> like could you have an activity at the
trunk or treat like paint a pumpkin or something? >> Yeah. So I just gave um Peter $115 $1172 [Music] or something like that. >> $122 for next year's trunk or treat that we raised at this year's trunk or treat. Um
as you know that I do the Graange East Graange Farmers and Artisans Market. So this year we had a lot of Halloween stuff left over. So we brought it here and we sold my mom did that booth and she's we sold that stuff and it came back. Um last two years I did Whoopi
Pie. So the first year we made $80 and the second year we only made $40. So this year it's included with that. So we made $122. We can rent space and have other vendors >> but it's not a very long >> event. It's two hours. I was going to
say what 2 hours. >> Okay. >> And for the Christmas stroll, I would really like to combine that in the future with all that glitters because they're already here using that and it's already at arts festival. So, I think we could get more vendors outside
and then we could rent the outside space while they do that and then you have the Christmas stroll besides. So, it would be like a whole family thing. >> That sounds like a good idea. >> And and funds could be generated from that. That sounds good. >> Friends of the parks. >> Yeah, we need that. >> So, um, Lacy, who was here earlier,
>> by the way, >> right? So, she has done >> she's done one for the BFW before and she said she's willing to help us create a Friends of the Parks or Friends of Lakeville. >> U, it's just finding somebody to be the president because if you work for the
town, then it's a conflict of interest and you can't be part of it. >> Mike Smith, he's bored these days. Oh, he's working on that warrant. >> I was just kidding. I don't know what he's up to, actually.
>> Oh, you will. >> So, >> working on what? >> You You've been gone. >> Yeah, >> you've been gone, Scott. >> Okay. So, any other liaison reports? >> No.
>> Any new business? Okay. What time is it? 7:50. Our next meeting is November 13th here 6:30. Nothing else. Okay. Do I hear a motion? >> Make a motion to adjourn.
>> I'll second. All >> in favor? It's not part of business. Okay. I meeting closed. Grand Oh.