[Music] good evening and welcome to the Thursday February 27th 2025 meeting of the lakevi planning board it is 7:03 p.m. and we are meeting tonight at the Lakeville police station we have Lake cam recording this evening is anyone else
recording hearing none we do have a member attending via Zoom this evening so we will be taking a roll call attendance I'm going to wait until Jack gets in here we can start with um David on on
Zoom if if dooll call attendance David LOD here can you hear me y thank you Dave okay John Cal here mck here wilga I L here and we also have our town plan planner Nancy dery with us this
evening uh so uh just because we have someone on Zoom we do have to take a roll call vote for every vote that we take as well mhm uh agenda item number one we have a public hearing for 43 Main Street um this was actually uh we did
take the vote and Clos on the um and en closed this hearing last meeting but we did have a question uh regarding the myar um Nancy so for site plan review you don't need to have a myar paper is fine it's when you're doing a lot line
change like the definitive plan which they provided with myars um or an 81x or an anr anrs are always changing lot lines so those need to be recorded with Mya for imp perpetuity the paper is is
is a harder material and last longer than paper so um the site planen is in paper and the my laws are uh are for the definitive plan are here to be signed tonight and you have a a final decision as well okay do we have to take a vote
to allow them to submit the site plan on paper I don't think so no okay so it's it's all set we don't really have to do anything with this item all right moving on agenda item number two we have a public hearing site plan review for 10 Harding Street continued uh from January
6 2025 upon the application for site plan review and approval submitted by Lex development Inc for the construction of a proposed 13,300 ft building Associated driveways parking area and utilities possible vote we do have a request from the applicant
to continue to March 133 2025 someone like make I'll make a motion to continue the 10 Harding Street till March 13th 2025 second we have a motion and a second roll call all in favor wilga I mck I cabal
I Lodge I thank you agenda item number three public hearing special permit 160 Bedford Street continued from from February 13th 2025 request for special permit under Section
27074 number 12 to allow a commercial parking facility we do have a request from this applicant to continue as well this one is to continue to March 27th is that correct Nancy for that date
okay um would someone like to make a motion to continue make a motion to continue 160 Bedford Street to March 27th 2025 take it we have a motion in a second roll call vote wilga i m i
cabal all right motion carries agenda item number four public hearing for 19 Main Street upon the application for a site plan review approval submitted by CD danitz realy Inc for the construction of a proposed
mixed use retail and Business Development comprised of two building and Associated site Improvement ments do have a yep as you all right the notice of public hearing the Lakeville planning board pursu to the town of Lakeville code
bylaws chapter 270 section 270-6737 2025 at 7:00 p.m. at the Lakeville police station 323 Bedford Street the purpose of the public hearing will be to receive information and public comment on the following site plan review application 19 Main Street the applicant
CD D danowitz Roy Inc seeks site plan review and approval for the construction of proposed mixed use retail and Business Development comprised of two buildings and Associated site improvements the front building will be occupied by retail and service businesses the rear building will house
small business enterprises that require office and storage service areas the application and assorted documents can be viewed in the planning department by appointment with someone like to make a motion to open this hearing I'll make a motion to open the 19 Main Street public hearing second Motion in a second roll
call all in favor will I mckern I cabal ey l l public hearing is open in our packet we do have some comments uh we have a memo from the select board the select board discussed
at their February 24th 2025 meeting um two of the the comments were the board would like to see if there is a way to partner with a joining parcel to create a Central Access egress and the board would like to express their concerns on increased traffic in the
Bridge Street Main Street intersection from the development we also have a memo from the fire chief uh the fire chief says this document has been submitted by as fire department comment on proposed construction located at 19 Main Street the size of the proposed buildings indicates the requirement for the
installation of fire sprinkler systems the presence of these sprinkler systems will trigger the need for fire department connections on the buildings the location of these connections affects the configuration and design of the site plan submitt the submitt that must contain the location of the sprinkler connections must be approved
by the fire chief per the code there are no other concerns about the submission at this time all right good evening good evening if you could introduce yourself for the record my name is Sil um professional engineer silver Engineering Associates
offices at 1615 B Street with me this evening uh the owners of the property Ard Alfred danitz are in the back there and um are you
okay all right um so uh this tonight we're here uh to talk to you about um property which has is designated as 19 Main Street and it is a portion of the uh what used to be the Lakeville
Hospital complex and I have uh some areas here that might help in terms of just acclimating yourself as to where we're talking and how it related to the original thank
you more [Music] so um so that area that's highlighted in blue is the area in which um we're talking about uh this project and as you can
see um it also intersects what used to be the original access driveway that went to the hospital complex and you'll see that on on the plan when we talk about it so uh um the property obviously
fronts on on 19 Main Street it's across from Bridge Street um I it's probably easier if I work from uh this uh this this display first and then I can go to one and has more detail there okay
so this is a sessor map 60 lot 1n and uh as I indicated it's in owned by the Dan wites it the zoning uh for the property is in uh in business and a mixed use overlay which I'm sure you've
been dealing with is 3 acres in size and um it's currently uh as shown on that that aerial there it's currently uh there's some lawn areas some treat areas there's a large parking lot a form
of parking lot that's uh part of the property and the remains of the main access driveway I used to come into the uh complex the uh fact the the way that the layout of uh the roadway is is that there's
actually a mass do indent right there and so we'll be utilizing that same access point which was already approved at one time by mass do the project as we're proposing it uh comprises of two
buildings okay and of course in my office you think that we'd start with the street being building a and the one on the back building be but it's not that way okay so we got um so here we are and Bridge Street is on in this side over here and this is Building B which
is the one towards the front that's the one that has the most visibility the goal here is to have um a 4unit uh building it that could change depending on what the um what the needs are in terms of when somebody
approaches uh approaches us for a um uh for rental and uh so but that building itself are 80t deep units right now showing in 4 40 ft across so um that's about a 12,000 ft
building uh at that point it has um the rear building which is the building a is turned in the other direction uh it had is also um it's 80 ft across and it's
150 F feet in length and that is laid out as 10 separate potentially 10 separate Bays small Bays for like small business type use um but obviously it'd be flexible enough that should somebody
come along and wants to have either a front the back and two bays there or double width that there's the ability to actually change and go down to fewer number of units but the maximum number of units that would be in this building would be um would be 10 10
units um the um this the way that it's laid out as I said the access would be following that same driveway access point that was from the original Drive we're talking about a
24 foot aisles for circulation we've done um actually I have even illustration for fire trucks in terms of how fire trucks are able to get around the complex and then also uh it would be um it would have would have parcking in
front of this of the the first building here on the sides and on the rear of the site there would be also additional parking uh to meet the requirements for um uh to meet zoning and to meet the needs of the of the
tenants the uh utilities on on the site would be we would be bringing in water both for domestic and for fire protection so in answer to the question raised by the fire department it's our intentions that they would be sprinkled
buildings and and therefore um uh I think that that was what he was alluding to in his comment letter that we received today uh we would have a uh we've done percolation testing uh leeching field
for the for the both buildings combined would be in this area here of the site um the flow from from each building would go to a separate septic tank pump chamber in the middle pump chamber pushing out up there and that's where
the actual uh leeching system will be um this the other illustration which is a little bit easier to see some of the utilities so as I was saying each one would have a a septic uh tank so flow would be
directed to the septic tanks from there to a pump chamber and then out here as far as uh drainage on the site drainage is going to be collected um as you can see we got laid out in here a a collection system
bringing it down towards the front and underneath that parking lot in the front and and and in front of that um we'd be going to oil grit separators for water quality and as you can see there's a significant um drainage system that is
proposed for the front that consists of 187 cultech Chambers in order to meet the 100-year storm uh requirements in that area so we'd have deep deep sump C catch basins and then we'd be conveying
it to the front there oil grit separators 5,000 gallon each one of those is a 5,000 gallon tank and then into the chambers so as far as um the building in the back because it's going to have overhead doors so there's a basically is
a a a pass door and an Overhead Door in front of this and when you have that you need to have uh Provisions for um a holding tank if you're on a septic system you're not on sewer you're on sewer you can use an MDC trap but if
you're um if you're on a septic system you have to have holding tank and so there'll be a holding tank for a drain system that would be in front of those doors that are on one side here that's the um tank on this side would be similarly it'd be one on the back side
for the drains that are on the in the in front of those overhead doors um and the way that works is if they're Flo gets up to a certain level alarm system uh is is indicated and you have to pump out the contents of the
holding tank and that's to make sure that none of it uh gets out into the environment as far as um the architectural design um we have not engaged
architectural uh plans at this point uh we wanted to show give you an idea though of what um what what we have in mind these illustrations which I have some copies uh for you that you can look
at yeah our architect is on Zoom so what's that I said our architect member is on Zoom right now so I'm sure he'll like to get a look at it and we do we do require those to be filed if that's all you have then once you have them with a
cop well there might be might anyway thank you okay I have I'll take what's so this is what your so this is this this is um to give you the locations here the these are buildings
that were found in one of them is in uh in cover that's Ericson's Ice Cream uh that's that uh smaller building and then the other one with the also has um the ones with the similar to those Bays that
we talked about in the back is also a building that's on that same uh property uh and then there's also another illustration that's in that packet of a building that's in um Bridgewater on bfit Street in Bridgewater and it's the try this is not
you know it's it's to uh assure you that what's intended here is a is a is a nice design you know we want it to look good we want it to um to work well for both the town and for actually for marketing
and uh and so forth uh it's it needs to look good and so this is what um what's uh planned for the type of building that we're looking to try to put here other other site features that
um uh that we have shown on the full set of plans that that are there um is that we show sight lighting um which is um a downward design the way that you would have no stray lighting going off to other
properties we show dumpster locations on the plant itself we show areas for snow storage they're not on this sheet I think they're on the other one but they they basically identify clouded areas where
uh snow storage would occur and then um Landscaping uh is shown on a lot of those details are all on sheet four if I can get the sheet four so on uh on this sheet here we show uh I should we showed those dumpster areas we
show the snow storage areas we show the uh the lighting locations off of the lighting the lights are shown in the islands and so forth and there's a detail in the back that shows the uh light
standed we just show light the light standed in here uh which is showing uh obviously a base construction downward light and there's a fixture type identified uh which provides for that down
light there is um we provided for Ada ramps wherever we have sidewalks and we show the sidewalks along the building and uh pretty much uh that's kind of the the main overview of what it
is that we're we're proposing here uh we understand that you um have a peer review process and which uh I don't know if the plans have already gone there or not I don't know what is the timing of those those kind of responses and so forth as well yes we um we have sent
them along um I believe been um so it's been signed the check has been cash so we've already paid so I I don't know what BS and Thomas will provide but I can get you a time frame um I'm not sure that we'll have it for
the next meeting but I'm certain that we'll have it for the 27th or hopefully before the 27th so Apex is BS the form of you mean Apex then you me Apex I'm sorry yes apex apex I'm sorry which I'm not familiar with I've never uh environmental partners that is Apex oh I
have dealt with them in East Bridge one are a couple projects and they're very familiar with this site y because everything everything else that's been going on around right has been Hand by them so I'm confident yeah know we did a large um complex in East Bridgewater you
in which they were the review uh consultant for that one uh so they're probably very familiar with Rebecca from my office as well she's the lead engineer um I'm the old Giza okay it's my 50th year as a civil
engineer congratulations so um we um you know basically this is where we are in terms of the overview of it uh we put a lot of time into making sure the design uh addresses your your
regulations and we hope that the comments come back and reflect that as well um but whatever comments that the board may have or or the public I'd be glad to address them at this point okay um any board question comments you want
first goad sure just a couple quick things um first off I really appreciate the detailed uh plans that you have given us including the design which looks great um so I really think it fits within the character of the town and and
what we look for um in terms of Street signage was that indicated on the plan and if so what were you folks thinking with Street signage as far as what street signage signage signage um oh in terms of a sign
for the project itself no in terms of what businesses will be there um occupying the spaces and so forth I don't I don't know as though I don't know you may be able to tell us what your Envision as far
as there's no one right now that has actually signed up to be a tenant at this point mhm but down the road as um I think probably you know more or less the same kind of signage that you know that's within like the area where
Alles and all of that area IUS out I don't necessarily think I'm looking we're not looking to do anything as outside of the requirements yeah I mean I don't think I'm looking to do a sign for that back
building do you think no no it's really more or less going to be the front building I do have a couple of ideas and people that I've chatted with that are prospecting um the front building um so it's something that they would need signage for but I think I would do you
know possibly one side if you go by um Bedford Street in um Bridgewater they did a really great job next to the um it's near the bank near the H One Bank up that way the you mean this uh yeah the one shown here I think it's like medical
office right well this Simplicity or something like that it's like a facial thing and then a he Salon it's just like a really nice Cris look very tasteful way one of our typical conditions is is that your SS have to app with our by well and that's what I'm saying we we're
not proposing to dos and and if you don't mind just so because we're on um we do stream on Facebook through Lake Cam and YouTube so that you're properly heard at a microphone these little can pick you up
if if you don't mind okay you can have a seat no that's fine okay um so yeah really whatever I mean I'm trying to make it nice um you know if that's like a you know a sign on the building I mean that's what we did in Bridgewater at our
building Yeah just something a little bit more some of the tenants will be looking to have visibility obviously on the building and then on a pylon sign so but everything will be done so that it meets the requirements for okay ice cream shops very welcome
here so I when I saw that I well I wasn't specifically and so so the company that we are going to has designed those buildings and um so we kind of went to where they already had buildings to see the quality
of workmanship so we have seen it and they you know do a good job and you know as far as doing the building we're going to probably add a little bit of extra you know it's going to cost a little bit more but it's just aesthetically more pleasing you know to the town good and
we do ask for the uh building elevations to be included with the submitt so that we can have it filed once once you tie it Down Right mhm right and the the only other thing and this is more so for the for the board is the leeching field that's on there do we
know how close that is to so bard of Health Board of Health okay yeah Board of Health was out there witness test with us and um you our our system has to be uh a minimum of 10 ft away from a property line MH uh the leeching portion
of it mm and um and that's how we've done everything to comply with that and do we think there's there's going to be restrooms in those in the possibly those 10 units absolutely each unit everything has everything's uh I mean what I'm
envisioning there is obviously you know the whole project that's going on out back you know people you know the housing and whatnot all right what I'm envisioning is possibly contractor Bays for people who small incubator kind of
start yeah like plumers electricians or or what have you somewhere to put their stuff to to kind of you know so will there be like a lot of people coming in and out in the back portion I just really Envision like that self-employed okay you know that that's
what I'm I'm envisioning but I I did have a question um I think there were two questions that were first stated um one for the fire department obviously we're going to do spring CL no no issue with that but the first one can you repeat what that question was or what that concern was mhm
traffic yeah but who is it requested by this is a select board so so we when we get a site plan review we send it off to all the boards and committees and asked for their feedback and this was the feedback that we received so the first one is uh the Flipboard would like to
see if there's a way to partner with the adjoining parcel to create a c access egress which is the back land correct well which is the so it wouldn't be the back so the 55 plus component is going to be egressing on to 79 okay the I
would think this is actually more so I have talked to Rhino capital A number of a number of times um I actually originally had thought that I would just sell them the land so they could utilize what's already there which would make far more sense than what I think what
they're you know going through but I think they had already gone through the process so I have talked to them at some point and you know I think it would have to be well we don't really know what that I mean we understand the spirit of
that cooperation of that but I don't think we know any details you know what I'm saying we're not we're not adverse we're not trying to uh throw a fence around and say no there's no way to I would object to it but I'd have to have a conversation know what it's about and and I should uh point out to you that
our company's familiar with this area because we did the funeral home yeah so so you know I'm I'm ass that you know that bridge street it's it's been very absolutely famous around here because it's it there's been a fality at that
light and the state also had designated funds towards putting in a light obviously it's a state road not a Town Road um so this is probably something that they'd be looking at to to partner to bring that
but I think that when they were looking at lights they I mean when when they were looking at that they were looking at a lot more volume feeding into that area I think that it was originally Stop and Shop yeah just that was you were talking about a volume of uh but that so that was even before yeah so that's even
regardless of the Stop and Shop the state had actually designated funds about three years ago to to go towards um are they still thinking that there's going to be a satellites there at at that's something that I think has to be
I I think so you're here with this plan with us and you're you're the owner of that parcel that is right across from Bridge Street uh because Rhino's response has been that they don't own that property but if there is a way that we can you know take a look at it I'm
for for conversation absolutely excellent CU I think it it'll benefit Absol whoever is going to put their business everybody's going to benefit so but but having said that though I mean uh rhyo would have to be in a position
to offset area that we've lost to be able to recover what we I think I think it would probably benefit from multiple people in the same room having a conversation because I know that from what Rino had said um and I don't want to get into the Weeds on anything any
other topic but there's been certain uh conversations with the select board in regards to that property so maybe there is something that can be worked out um which I think we should look into arranging a a conversation of getting I don't believe they ever contact with me
they've I've I've had I've had multiple conversations yeah I'm I'm very happy that you're and and I'm amicable to that just because I think like I said I think it could work out for everybody involved right I mean having multiple egress in
an already you know taxed traffic-wise location that we know it's there's been a fality and the state recognizes it it's just a matter of um seeing what kind of was a fatality that's that's terrible yeah it was about I want to say two and
a half years ago now okay but multiple accidents yeah all the time but was well I think especially their property is this line in here and in here they don't control they're all the way here everything the
only common area that we have with them is about 134 ft here or right they have they have even so what happened is when we first bought this land we didn't own this p uh we didn't we own more and so I renegotiated and got more Frontage and
they took a little bit back so so essentially they call a dog like that goes around your property Yeah so basically they want to they what they're asking is if we can go in here and go over here we we'll leave that in your court that if you want yeah well we'll we'll see if we can get some um and we
discussed that at one point now the only thing that I want to suggest there though is if then some way those talks could happen before any kind of peer review happens in Earnest because we don't want to be something you said they wer sent yet
right or were everything's been sent they have been sent everything can we send an email tomorrow just to put it on hold put on hold until a meeting is held just say that there's going to be a meeting and you're okay with that yeah absolutely great I appreciate that but
continuing on John did you have any question are you all set then yeah sorry no it's fine um business use right this is business devel this is business y zoned you list out Industrial in your parking is there
industrial because there's really no category to for these businesses that are uh that type um it was hard to actually identify it for parking requirement so that's the only reason why it's called out that way cuz there
is me like on the unless there was a better category for us to show it in uh we felt as though that those are those a business incubate is basically a Ser small because like you can't do any auto repair in there because that would be all you by special permit in a business
Zone um those are all things that you can um that you can condition in your approval no that I saw the H holding tank so was my first thing was like what do you guys you well no h holding tank is a plumbing um Plumbing code requirement yep that as soon as you trip
the threshold of you've got over is big enough that to fit a vehicle inside you have to put that's why it's there what was it that you thought that they would do with the holding tanks I didn't well no cuz you can't have auto repair shops in a business Zone without
a special permit certain areas even like when they you start the contractor Bays as well because those are listed under industrial as special permit required of business occupancy as well when you have a plumbing or I think I I was just looking that up but it was spray paint spray paint or Plumbing electrical shops
that are going to be doing repair stuff in there is special permit under business occupancy under business zoning sorry um so again just so there may be some conditions that are going to require coming back on a on the details of a particular tenant y yeah no that's
what I mean I know I know right now you said you have no tenants so it's just something like that but just when I said I said when I saw the Hing tanks I thought same thing repair and cuz it's up yeah tell me what I can have in yeah yeah no that's fine that's um yeah so we could as a primary usea to
just make sure that we do a condition that covers that and if anything changes in the future um no that was really I just I I saw that it jumped out of me as yeah it's a good question to ask because people at home if they see Warehouse
that absolutely you know their antenna is going to go up so Jack do you have any yeah got a couple um the type of renter or clientele is basically service oriented people like plers and cers I mean it doesn't
necessarily have to be that I I guess you know my husband's a contractor and in my mind I think like there's so many people that we've met along the years that end up getting these I mean it could be I don't maybe it's really service we're thinking with the
population that's occurred and what's going to continue that there is more service kind of based kind of businesses single story buildings yes Ada parking yes and uh you being
compliance with our exterior signage and exterior absolutely architectural okay I'm fine David do you have any questions uh uh no not directly other than uh yeah we will need to see uh uh
kind of more definitive uh uh preliminary architectural plans uh with an idea of the materials uh you're proposing and using and all I mean unfortunately I can't see what you're what you brought in for uh
samples um we can put something aside in the planning office for you so you can pick it up yeah when I'm back um and and you and definitely you know doing something about lining up that entrance with
Bridge Street a little bit better I notice there's a little bit of an off shet there and I would think that that everybody would kind of want want that lined up if there's uh a future traffic light going in um um by lined up what do
you mean um it is pretty it is pretty lined up I I think it is pretty lined up but I mean it kind of oh I see what you're saying so going but it's there there there is just a little bit of an offset there got but that's all obviously something that if you know if that's something you can work I mean
that's that's doable in terms of turning that a little bit yeah yeah you guys don't anticipate like massive I know we've G this before other project like eight lot of 18 Wheels coming out there again it's going to be tough they're already coming down Bridge Street coming from like Ocean Spray so when you have
try to turn to make another someone out there I don't deliv it's pretty much offset it's more like the center line of Bridge Street is more with the uh uh is that be the northern edge of the or the East the Eastern edge of our driveway right now
so it's like about a half a driveway off maybe so but we got room within that area to be able to uh to shift it over a little bit if that makes more sense yeah what have is
sufficient and you know what what you're discussing with Rhino uh you know if there's kind of fewer driveways and and particularly if there's a traffic light going out there uh you know 200 uh apartment units uh back behind you uh is
is is some traffic going in and out it makes sense right yep so we'll um put a hold on the peer review temporarily yep we'll see if we can get set up a meeting a meeting together and who who would you like to see at that meeting so I'd like
a representative from rhino the select board um I think it would make sense to have Town Administrator zoning enforcement officer um I don't know if fire chief is yeah or
police chief as well or DPW I think maybe the Board of Health to Dan Dan's issue regarding what what would be the board of health issues so just to just to clarify just to clarify the leeching field in terms of uh because it is on
the it is on the line and I'm not exactly sure where their leeching field is and so forth so I just want to make sure everything is in compliance that's all yeah the the uh title five requirements are 5 ft from a prop I mean 10 ft from a
property line and uh excess of that okay well so I don't know I don't know if what health will want of part in the conversation with Rhino though I don't know no I think it might be premature I mean I think you know regarding Road and access that's
why I thought maybe Fire Chief and police chief but if they don't even if they if they want to be involved um but otherwise definitely someone from Rhino um select board ta Nate Nate and and the
fire Y is it okay if I contact Rino myself as well or would you rather no yeah if you yeah because we'd like to have an idea what it is they may be asking contact with them so I just want to see we might have a better way to kind of toss things around that
absolutely yeah sounds good you work at what's possible yeah not negotiate a you now you had asked a question about uh fire truck access that red line is the uh the truck access around uh okay good
let easy what number sheet is that was in that's not in the packet that was a separate one that send that along as well we can as well as it may have maybe a moot point if we we move some things but uh right
certainly so maybe whole well send it along so we can include it in the packet cuz if if the meeting from Ryo goes no way we want we want to get them going right away so again just if you have it already done if it's not and then when you said lighting um do you have a photometric plan as well we do not have
a photometric plan at this point okay um it is something we that would be uh we would be doing that through the architectural okay contract okay so you can get get that we'll get that done too okay all right
um You you did I mean it pretty thorough for first present thank you um but let's figure out a date to continue to Madam chair I would just like to ask a couple of questions um on the traffic did you do any traffic study or run any numbers
as to how much traffic you would see we have not done a traffic evaluation we are not a traffic consultant but um um has not done that at this point has Rhino done a traffic one I'm sure they must have yeah I'm sorry I was that
came well now this will obviously be additional traffic generated from a different type of situation people be coming into please right okay you hope oh they will and and and as John mentioned to um
trailers I'm assuming with the construction base did you take that into consideration for turning radi oh we've done it so for fire charts as right CU you have you have uh a number of access points where trailers will be coming in and out uh it's a congested already on
Main Street just wondering if you took that into consideration on the radi coming up out onto Main Street as well as getting around we the the do uh requirements is what we did to okay D radius in line with what NY was saying
is there a time limit we're going to put on when these trail trucks can come in because you know we went through this with um the hospital there people were concerned the backup beepers and the lights and all this conis so is there a time Li you would put on trail trucks
can't come in or come out after 10:00 at night oh like nothing before 6:00 a.m. and nothing after 9: Ty typical condition we'll have to Michelle's we can look at that and and propose something to here okay um I I know that
we run into problems on some sometimes when somebody goes comes in the pick up a dumpster and they tend to come in early when they do it sometimes you know yeah with considering there's going to be a bunch of residen speaking of the the the dumpster will you have screening
yes that's a screen dumpster okay it shows it um and on the Turing radi I don't see a a spacing uh in foot where it turns at the back of the the site where you have the construction Baye could you add that to add the radius in
the back add the feet on the radi of both of the back Corners so they're on it's on it's on the sheet number uh four yeah it's on the four I'm on four and I I don't have it between the edges from
the from the edge of the property to the edge of where you're going to put I I don't those are all 24ts okay all around the radi as well everything is 24t Isles in the main the main oh you're looking for the have the
dimension for the yeah I also see up there it says 20 you see it I see it here I just didn't see it on the Turning r okay it just it wasn't marked on theadi there's nothing less than a 24t aisle anyway you marked out the 24 if it was
at 24 everything else is beyond that that's inside inside mhm would you be open to running some traffic numbers um for this site as well for the type of businesses that you're using uh we would not be but we'll have to we we can
discuss how how I guess what has been done and maybe you can give us the benefit of who is actually you done evaluation here before um I would not know was mcmah involved not that I'm aware of but Rhino has done the
traffic yeah whoever did it I mean I don't want to reinvent the wheel here either there if there has been uh some evaluation of it uh we might want to get a propos do that work you do maybe when you're talking to Rino you what their
traffic study you get that traffic study well I mean it's public it's public yeah um does did you have more question no that's it uh anyone in the audience did anyone else have questions first right we need
to so Landscaping okay I think that's a good idea I'll bring it to to so in order to give us some time for where would the landscape this is where the the two first two buildings are
going to be Ral right the two oh Rhino stats they're going to put those the the assistant living in [Applause] the yeah it's over here yeah over further back further over further back
think and it does look like you are maintaining and and doing some plantings as well though you some mcing you just want to make sure that your site is near any of their two two buildings I mean their buildings got to
be set back minimums minim they got to be doing some sure some Landscaping too sure between I'm sure between the two of us they should be the difference between that is your commercial and they residential more on that side so that's where that's where
that concern comes from but it's just an open opportunity for you to consider that as well okay thank you so as far as a continuous date um should we push well you pushing the
peer review out I wasn't sure that they'd make it to the end of March so you'd be looking at the beginning of April potentially if we're going to try to hold the meeting um and then yeah and then wait till after the meeting to then send the peer review and then get comments back from PE yeah and I would
like to have those comments back obviously before your meeting actually happens right right so um what do you want a two meeting uh in April two meeting a month so I I would say it's probably best to be looking at that
second meeting in April because that gives us a chance to get whatever that review is resp because this getting to this meeting is going to take a little bit of time out of here so either the 10th and the 24th a yeah April 24th would be the second one yeah I would say the 24th because if
we get their peer review I I don't want to be reading it here I want to be able to have it maybe address some of the comments and see if we can get closer to the Finish Line how much time in advance would you wish to have if I if I if if it was a perfect
world you're asking me or Rebecca are I off you yourself Rebecca would tell it three months um we like to have couple weeks in advance I mean that if it's possible but you know that gives us a chance digest it get it and you know I mean if
you need more time you can always just contact the office and that exactly yeah see what I can do before this so yeah I so I don't think it's going to be a public meeting we'll probably I volunteer as a designation from this
board as long as you don't have a quum it's not going to be a public meeting exactly so you know as long as we can get it done probably next couple weeks yeah day or night what would what do you think in day or night I think we could
do it during the day based on the the people that probably on the day you get better time I like day okay go in the next two weeks she's motion okay so let's get a motion to continue I'll make a motion to
continue the uh 19 Main Street till April 24th 2025 second motion and a second roll call i cab motion carries thank you we will see in April and hopefully sooner job all
right thank you thank you very much good job snappy snappy he's good yeah no he's good I think sounds all right agenda item number five we have Lakeville Golf Course presentation and discussion
unfortunately um he was Dar Maxi did reach out and let us know he is under the weather and he is looking to make this presentation to us on March 13th so um we don't need to continue this because it was just an opportunity
for him to informally present to us but we will hopefully see him on March 13th agenda item number six revieww and possible vote to send the following articles to the select board as placeholders for the Spring Town Meeting
warrant discussion possible vote so we have a number of things that we've been discussing um possibly bringing to town meeting uh one of them is the Adu accessory apartment bylaw
revisions so that one as you all know we did a we did bring an Adu bylaw to town meeting in Fall we also have a accessory apartment uh bylaw that is on the books currently so that is something that we
should take a look at I know Nancy did take a look at and and she expressed that um you know she thinks that we should probably do away with the accessory apartment have the Adu replace it but you said to keep to or to add one thing to the Adu right so at the at the
bottom of the section with which you already approved at the fall toown meeting you would add a number four and then you would just add and we can pass this through uh Amy and make sure that she is okay with all of these changes um
would be is subject to 760 CMR 71 uh protected use adus so that way when the state makes any changes as I I'm anticipating that they probably will that they're not quite done with refining their bylaw yet so bye thank
you thank you have a good one take care that this would would cover anything extra that they make changes to and you wouldn't have to go back and keep changing your bylaw it would cover everything oh that's good so we would want to take something to town meeting that basically says we're going to uh
remove section whatever that accessory apartment I don't have it in front of you whatever that accessory apartment um section is remove that would be 27 7.8 270 and it would be removing accessory apartment in its entirety okay and then
just making a minor revision to Adu exactly that would cover you cover you on both of those so that seems like something we should definitely move forward with if board is agreeable yeah I think we should be able to throw something together as far as sending it off to Town Council I'm going to send it
off to Town Council probably much the way you are have been presented to you and have her give me any suggested changes um necessary to make sure that we're doing legal language that she she would approve of okay all right the
other item site plan review revision so this one thank you Nancy for making some changes to the site plan review by law language um and then I thought of it after the fact after I talked to you yesterday about it was um
I also wanted to add open space under the list yep so so that that they get added um to the to the list so we have some new language that includes the Adu that's good you picked up on that you added the
Adu so um came from I put that in blue so that people knew that was already something that was voted on at the fall town meeting but had not yet passed um AG's office so we'd haven't we heard back from them as to whether or not that is something that they will allow for
you to keep in the bylaw okay and I I would I would almost know that you you could possibly take it out if you wished because for site plan review only if you already have uh single family homes as
site plan review which you don't then that would apply but if you don't then you you can't just add it in for just adus does that make sense oh what I'm saying okay yeah yeah I can double check with legal counsel to make sure I'm correct on that but that is the way that
that I interpret that type of language so say it again so um if you had a site plan review for all single family homes then you could add in C Adu yes but since you don't then you can't just add
in for just adus does that make sense okay so because because it was all new and I just I read this and I thought right it says you do s review absolutely okay so yeah that'd be great if we can get clarification on that if that even needs to be in here then yeah who has to
approve that oh legal council yeah I would definitely want her have her eyes all all over this I'm not a I'm not I'm not an attorney so I don't doesn't have to go before town this will have to go before town if we remove it then it will
go back before town as a removal okay but the AG's office May remove it um because they may see it as the same as as I did so oh and I do have the ad one I'm sorry I didn't see that until just now um the other thing that
I started mulling around of course like after the fact is if we do this deep dive into our bylaws should we wait on site plan review if we're going to do this deep dive should we we should do this just do it you think we should okay cuz I didn't want to I didn't want to go to town
meeting let's revise site plan review again and then in Fall let's re revise this again well it's only pieces of it okay yeah your applicability and the review that will help with the next piece that we're going to talk about which is the application okay cuz then
you'll have it right into the the bylaws as well and it firms up for anybody who wants to put a site plan application in that they can also see that it's in your bylaw as well um the inclusion would be the technical review that we discussed a few meetings ago where we bring together
the department heads who would be most valuable to the permitting um the fire chief police chief um Board of Health conservation Building Commissioner zon enforcement officer and all also um conservation didn't mention them and I
believe you know um that would be the grouping uh the chairman or someone from the planning board would be welcome to come and hear part of what is happening what happens is you you have the applicant come in before they're fully develop their plans that way they can
get input from each of the different department heads in their expertise um for example the fire chief on a particular plan like this would want to make sure those turning radi met the requirements of his apparatus the the flow the the fire codes all of those
things could be sused out and included in the plans before they even get to you that way you're not waiting meeting after meeting continuing continued until you get a final plan that can be approved it kind of helps through that process and it may slow down the need
for them to write many memos to the board because they would have already given all of their input out front they would get that second chance always when it comes in to make sure that what they asked for was actually incorporated into the plans cuz you wouldn't want them to
have those meetings and then them not meet those requirements as well so it kind of it's it's just a a process that helps streamline and helps with the cost for the for the applicant as well I think because then they're not fully developed and then going back and rechanged them after they've already
been already completed I love I love this idea because I mean even residents that came to the Joint meeting said you know it's great to see you get in together you should do this more often I think and and I think we were in agreement you know there was a lack of
communication or coordination and and this this is one more step towards that piece of coordination um it's just fine tuning what you already doing yeah it's fine tuning the applications I think will also when you see the changes in the application that will also kind of it'll
start to make more sense and then the applicant will have to also look at the application look at the checklist and making sure that they're hitting all of those marks if I don't have it then I can deny the application right off the front and send them back so that they're
not coming in with mixed pieces and you're not it's it's it's again it's more streamlined and it allows for you to make sure that you have all the material when you go to sit down and review it before you even come to a meeting it's so important to know that
it's all clean and already done Absolutely I'll use the example of the anr that didn't put the leeching field on the plan he say he would have saved himself another meeting had he had a checklist and know that he's absolutely has to put that on there that's just an
example of how that could be improved this great I think he would have appreciated it too I think he would too I don't think want to come back I know oh I'm so true all right so the the next item was the senior overlay
District I was actually kind of hoping to base us on potentially what was presented by Derek D um because the reason we were looking at a senior overlay was because of what was presented by Thorndike for the lake V country club we haven't seen anything
come from them so they the presentation ones right correct that was what July summer yeah I think they probably saw us in July it took them a little a little while to get to select board but then I also I forwarded the most recent um
communication from Lloyd to Nancy and um Andrew because they weren't part of it so kind of made the introduction and he said that they were you know working through some sort of a parchase agreement and they'd you know reach out when they were ready so because we haven't heard
anything and dere's not going to be here until the beginning of March so I think we're going to run out of time for spring yeah for this is I'm we're not looking to write a senior overlay I would rather them write it have Town Council review it and then move it
forward so I'm I'm assuming this is going to be a no for the Senor overlay at this point maybe for fall but we'll we'll see that sounds great I mean unless they watch this meeting and they're like no we want to get it in by get in touch yeah but otherwise rly
approaching right exactly we have I think it's only two two meetings before the it closes or what what dat does it close I don't recall April 14th think we have two meetings left yeah two Monch is it
yeah oh no we'll have three April 10th is it is yeah okay but that's just barely making it your housing okay so elevator over there 105 it's unbelievable so the next one was the
osrd overlay I only put this on because we had obviously had that discussion um last I checked with Kathy we have not heard anything back from um the owner of Rocky woods so it doesn't seem like
they're willing to come back with an osrd for a for us to review or to bring to town meeting I don't I don't think it'll make it for for for this town meeting right well I mean if we haven't gotten a response so that seems to be their response right so maybe maybe they
would come back maybe they're just not ready they're coming back to ZB or they're going to zba on March 20th so in their mind I'm sure they they feel like they might have a little more time um and maybe it would be something that they would put to a special town meeting
or something like that if if the town and they were still open to that idea well if they have a meeting with CBA on the 20th I mean potentially they'll move forward with their 40b correct so um and and honest I don't know what kind of support that would have gotten just from the response we got at that
meeting so so for me I guess the osrd is not on the table at this point for spring okay um the next item was zoning map revisions this is something that I know we were talking about maybe there's some areas where we can look at I know
you're working at getting a zoning map on the gis which once once that happens I feel like it's going to be a lot easier to work with that map right so the complicated piece for your zoning map is that it was done a lot in U meets and Bounds which is surveying the
landscape so you would have to do um degrees minutes and seconds for each corner and it's written that way in your bylaw as well for each of some of the many districts that you have which makes it hard for a for serpent to do them because they're not
surveyors so you almost need a specialist to do that so you need someone who could do the surveying and then also had skill with uh argis which is the mapping tool with which that it would needed to be created in it couldn't be done in their CAD file because CAD doesn't do mapping like that
it would definitely be arcgis serpent has already agreed that they cannot take much more of the map forward and the map that they have provided thus far is still missing a couple of the overlays so it's not a complete map you don't have a complete
map now um because it doesn't have again a couple of your oay districts on it which was dated in 2018 and you're also missing your Water Resource protection map which covers the entire town and it never gets even
mentioned so people don't even realize that exist all of your town is covered by water resource protection and they should be addressing those in all of their applications and they should be providing you with information about any hazardous materials they plan to house
on the property based on that overlay so I have talked to Bridgewater um I was a student there and my professor is still um a part of the the Bridgewater community and she was
willing to send out a proposal to her students I got the I got the message like within an hour after she got the proposal from one of uh her students and he turned them a kind of of just the Bas lay map with all the zones on it in a
day wow so I have I I have that really um but um I did talk to um The Building Commissioner and he had some concerns or hesitant about not having it accurate to have it accurate though would cost the
town a lot of money so um so I'm giving you that information I don't have any answers yet but this is this is he literally turned it around in one day and and so that's on GIS now I have this in GIS he has it in his GIS files right
now so it has all of your industrial business and you know any of those oet so we can zoom in now we can now zoom in on the gis map to any right so area how do we you the the the out so what I would like to see happen is in
the access map that you have the tools of the mapping would be to put a zoning layer in so that you could look at the parcel and look to see what zone it actually is in I was just trying to do this with
with 160 yeah and trying to figure out what actual zone are all these Parcels around 160 in like there be a filter or something that it's an overlay so you could like click on you could click on the parcel layer and then you could click on the zoning map and you'd be
able to transparently see that's great through so you could see the the lot lines and understand but to get down to that detail you probably need the survey or a disclaimer that says these are not accurate okay and you would have to then go to the bylaws for more accurate
detailed information on how much of your parcel or all of your parcel the only way else that I know to fix it is to go back to tell meeting and change all of those that are in meets and Bounds and put them into parcel data or app Block
and lot how much would that cost that that that that wouldn't be it just be harder it's just it's hard well one is very expensive and the other is just more time to do it right because you'd have to go through each of the
each section and try to just put a district on it you would vote on on the final districts then you send it to town meeting and then town meeting would have the final V vote whether or not these districts met what they had intended
originally and see that almost s like I know you said that's it's it's more labor intensive for the town but it's the cheaper way to go and then you have it and it seems like CU so then what because if you're looking at a GIS map you have the map block and lot right
there so you have that boundary and you should have it in your like your property record card like it should say and it's in the business district with XY overlay so that it's you know what I mean so all that detail could be pulled in right so those those are we kind of
at at the moment so it's just something to think about and then come up with a solution and maybe bring something like that to fall okay we could possibly do it by Fall so cuz I was hoping to maybe have some that we could look at I know when I reached out to Nate he said maybe
one area but yeah it sounds like even that area is confusing as it is right unless maybe you could get some of them to come and meet with you and if they want to change their zoning then we could you know what I me do something like that
yes yeah I wouldn't want to do it without you know having folks input right um and you might want to just you know look at the zoning overall right and figure out do these zones actually meet the requirements of what the town
is looking for anyway so that I mean maybe that's an exercise and that's we were trying to do it Dan and Jack actually you know were driving around and they were coming back and Reporting and because we have these weird little one little business here little business
there um and then you know we have the industrial D or B whatever you know one location that's the only place in town right and then mixed use now that that's you know it's special yeah and all the respect of all
the residents of the town you take this to down me will they be able within the context of the time you understand what you're talking about I'll you show them like I would give them imagery right not just meets and Bones no one really would
know where that is right unless you were looking at a surveyed map Sur yeah um so it make it it might make it simpler for them because when you go back you go with a more detailed map with the parcels and the color with which you'd want the district and we do it in
sections I think you because these the majority of these people have had no involvement in this type of language and understanding and all this kind you take it to the me she's going to go har what do you think okay well we don't want
that we don't want we want we well you know Jack remember what we did um in Fall for the the small area that was rezoned industrial yeah so I think we would do something similar where we have like existing proposed yeah ex you know like an an a map yeah showing yeah
that's all I think you need to make it you know recipient friendly because they have to understand what you're talking about because we could we could send out some notices to the to the area residents we could do it peac mail we have to hold the public hearing anyways
before the town meeting I yeah but to your point we could have another public just a public meeting separate from what we would have to do which we would do which we have to do but just to meet with people have them come in do a Saturday morning coffee show them the
maps make sure people are very aware that this is happening through any mechanism Facebook whatever postings we could possibly do to try to get as many pieces just like they did with like the the master plan like Gathering that information even with like now the fire department like having the fire station
informational sessions I think that's probably a great idea and I think it would be best over spring and summer absolutely to bring people out yeah and then get it ready for the fall yeah yeah so see what they voting on that's right so we'll look at zoning map for
fall and try to do some info sessions yeah okay so we're going to have to get that onto our um planning board goals and bring that once a month so we can keep that in the back of our minds not to
forget um the other item I won't forget cuz I need it oh I know I think we all do I'm like oh you know res I think residents who are dealing with that issue will understand and want to see it resolved as well um so the other one is the storm
water M um we had we had a draft from environmental Partners it was sent to sered sered has been working on they sent us a draft back I know you had some comments uh DPW director was going to look at it um I
know we haven't seen uh feedback from Nate yet but I did speak to him he he didn't want to be the authority oh yeah it wouldn't make him the author he wouldn't be the authority so he was saying planning board should does that make sense yeah it so I didn't know so so this is me not not
having enough knowledge about who's doing what already so I did try to reach out to conservation through the new conservation agent um but he's part-time so I I did not hear back from him in time for tonight um if they see because they're doing 160 Bedford Street I'm wondering
do they already do storm and I mean in towns it's it can be one or the other but obviously it can't be both there has to be an authority they can't not be someone that that takes responsibility for it sometimes we have
always done storm water with our uh peer review so so yeah so I mean planning board because they do site plan review it's more natural for you to take that on but I just didn't want to um inhibit or or step on on conservation's toes if
this was something that they had already been doing and I didn't know enough to say yeah well if they're doing it already then they should already they should continue doing it and you know I I think you know what I'm trying to yeah you don't want to yeah I just want to make sure it's where it's supposed to be
but it just has to be somewhere yeah that I know right yeah and I guess that could be something that I don't know if that's something that you need to converse with with conservation with or if it's something that you feel like you can make a decision on we could ask them
again like maybe Nancy Yates yeah I don't I don't see the harm in just throwing it out there and say you know we were considering have planning board you have an issue with that and and what they say yeah okay um but other other than that he also said um what he
already deals with is the elicit discharge that so he wants to make sure that that is speaking to or um in conjunction with the water who is that is that is that Nate he does elicit
as well yes okay so we can can somehow put something in there to make sure that he has some oversight when it comes to elicit discharge I think he want so I think he was going to send it along so that it can be sent to sered to make
sure that it's ex speaking with it like correctly and not not going against it in any way okay that's sounds good yeah yeah and I didn't get any other comments back yet from from anyone else okay so I can reach out to them you know one more
time send it back to sered to finalize it yeah i' I'd take your comment send it back to sered get another copy and then when you get another draft with whatever else they come back then send it around and we can I think that one's good to move forward with all right sounds good
right okay so so tonight we're going to send over placeholders to the selectboard and I have Adu site plan re review and storm water for spring so now
there was now Nancy just give him my so for fall we had sent Place holders to the selectboard there's like an internal process that we kind of missed yeah we held the public hearings and then right before town meeting we actually had to
hold a meeting to vot at the vote to send them to the slack board not just as placeholders so we want to just make sure we don't skip that door this time that was I I I think Tracy has already come down to talk to
me I had already asked liil like what your process is so that I'm familiar with it as well so I have all the paperwork and and we'll we'll get that that going so you I used to I'm used to a form that gets passed around back and forth okay
and I can show I I could show Lil that to see if that's something that she would be interested in so we send it to the select board each one gets its own cover sheet the select board signs off sends it back to you you sign the sheet
and then that's documentation um that you send back to the select board and the select board sign it so that it goes onto the warrant I know it sounds cumbersome right um but that paperwork can travel to the AG's office that show it went through the
proper steps exactly how it's supposed to and no like sending back for last minute meeting on a Friday afternoon or whatever it was yeah yeah so um so we'll take a look at that as well so for this evening though we can we'll request
placeholders for these three items some of you want to make that motion I'll make a motion to send placeholders to the select board for Springtown meeting for 8U storm water and site plan review we have a motion in a second roll call all in favor wiga I I
I all right motion carries we have site plan review application possible vote another thing in our packet here so this is what you were already talking
about a little bit Nancy we have the application for site plan review there's a whole checklist now that allows them to go through so you kind of I'm so excited I know You' kind of already explained it I can't even tell you I'm like H and no this so you don't so missing you don't understand so
we actually did a a a minor revision of the rules and regulations and I wanted to get the forms yeah but Kathy wasn't on board and it didn't There Was You know it's it's it tedious you know getting that all together yeah there was some miss something you have to go in
and make sure that you're catching all of them there's a few new ones in there I think they're all something very helpful wait till we get to the an anr that one's like mine oh yeah nice yeah yes but and I'm glad that we didn't revise the forms at that time
because now we can just do it without having to revise the rul which requires a public hearing so good this won't okay this is just a vote yeah good yeah all right so any questions comments concerns about this check plus I went through it it seemed pretty
comprehensive and yeah straightforward so it's four pages yeah four pages yeah looks good and you basically just took this out of our roll and Rags or yep I went through the line items
nice and simplified okay all right would someone like to make a motion to adopt this site plan review application we make a motion to adopt the site plan um application for site plan
reviewed we have a motion in a second roll call vote all in favor wi i m i cabal i ly all right motion carries and now bring back to you the an anr at the next meeting okay excellent I keep coming in
so so it's just as easy for me too because then I can take the application and the plan and I can it and make sure that they have everything are you going to post these on the P the web page too so I know and and that was the other thing I think John had pointed out that the old rules and rs were still up there
it took them down so and so there's still in not complete form oh really yes so that's something that cuz there were a few minor edits I think we worked through that last meeting right maybe can they wer help me get there so that I
can get that up there okay I'll see if I can cuz I've been going by the the old one as well so I printed that out okay yeah so it' be helpful for me to have the new one so I'm I'm not referencing something that's right right well I mean it was it was it was minor revisions you know
changing like the DAT that were WR I think it said 14 days instead of 21 so we changed all those anything that said Highway director and that was DPW um you know just it was kind of like the loow hanging fruit that we could just do perfect on our own okay and there were some things that we went through with
Kathy that she kind of you know yeah triggered to say that you know these items so happy to happy to make those changes I just need to know what they are I I'll have to dig it out from my packet like cuz I know I have like everything scribbled
in but um that'd be good to get out there too all right next item is Administrative update 92 Holland Road anr decision so you uh did include the little snippet mhm
um as requested um I guess this just needs to be signed right absolutely okay so and uh the town clerk will get a copy as well as the applicant okay wait for David then no do we need
David signature it is on the page yeah so when he comes back he can sign it on an emergency so and then we have four marold memo um that has gone to the uh zba who heard
who had this tonight as uh the public hearing opened um and so they have your comments and they were grateful to to get some feedback and then the 13 Main Street um fin right so this looks like we have
the yeah the affidavit from the engineer as we had requested and then you went out there as well so we were supposed to go out today but they're rescheduled till um March 10th in the afternoon so well I'll be going out with uh Apex and um Zenith and we'll
take a look at the site based on the as built and the original plans so we've requested that they bring full copies fulls sizee copies of both so that we'll have them on site I also have sent copies over to Apex so they can take a look to see what they would be looking
at so if you look at the asilt there are a few number items on there that were not question was not um uh uh done according to plan so if you have the asilt from the last meeting just take a look at that it's
number 11 on the on the asil sheet MH okay and then I'm sure Apex will provide a report back okay great anything else under administrative
that you have that popped up or anything um I'm trying to think it's been a it's been a whirlwind a couple of weeks I bet welcome here you go so yeah I'm excited that you keep me busy and then I just don't want to see you I don't I don't
want to see you overloaded though either so like if you have any concerns please feel free to you know voice them because we don't want to lose you either we don't want you to get burnt out or overburdened no worries you know we want to keep you happy I I like that you're you're you know you're looking into what
things need to change and that's so important and that you're willing to take a look at the processes and and willing to make those changes really helpful to me as well um I see areas where we can make great improvements and strides for all of you to make good decisions when these things come before
you and then back it up with making sure that it's done according to plan right and that'll make the the process for this board so much easier too you know yeah yeah and and you know in the backside too I'll be in telling you about what's going on on the
construction side when things are getting you know if there's anything that looks like they might be having to come back for a modification or things like that and those things are important for you to know that that those things should happen on the back side it happens you know sometimes they do they
run into something that is unanticipated but knowing that we're Partners in the the final product is is just as important as what they're doing is to you to you as well so I look forward to that part of it as well good
follow through that's that's so important you know I'm excited and I'm glad you're you're into it too yeah absolutely it's a Love Fest all right so we had a set a minutes on here but we're going to wait till next meeting for that and then our next
meeting is March 13 2025 here um did did you have anything okay um okay so no other business we have a motion to adjourn one one quick thing one very quick thing so uh meeting
minutes that have been approved okay um I think we're up to October 18th do we have just want to make sure that that's cuz I have um I I had one
um um person reached out to me and said do you know more has been posted yet so I I know that there's a lot going on but and I know the Town Administrator has been keeping track of it too and I don't think you know Kathy has to be the only one that can post them I can post them
and I think there's others in the building that would be willing to help as well to get those done thank you I mean we're much farther than we were so but um yeah we certainly don't want to get caught from the AG's office and get a letter so we'll get those up there
because it is important that we are posting them people like to read what happened what happen um oh actually yeah you can bring it you can just ask you know that someone from down on um Pine Crest um and talk to the de I
forget I can't think name of the street right now um Pine Crest devel P yeah so yeah so I did get another um contact from the neighbor he's concerned about um the section outside of his his property at the driveway I did contact
the developer he said he would get out and take care of that as well so yeah I mean I'll follow up early next week that road supposed to get paved the person eventually but obviously they're not doing it now cuz just it's all broken and the rumble strip needs to be installed too for when he starts to get construction underway that would be the
first thing I would require because I don't want trucks coming in and out on that protection part of the road it really it would really require that so he he he says he will do it and I will check in next week to see if something has been done to help with the with the
frontage of his property as well yeah now that now that's start it's starring out now so oh yeah everything such a mess yeah there was about um 2 or 3 feet of frost in the ground yeah um in other sites not not here but in other towns right next door so yeah that was a
report out that there were there was that much Frost we haven't had that in a while I know past couple years has been very warm and Mild but even the Palms still we had yeah we had some winter here yeah yeah it's good thank you so much thank
you all right make a motion to aurn motion and a second roll call in favor I app itting is he was already G