WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=FGWg1oZQMMQ Part: 1 1 00:00:03.274 --> 00:00:46.960 [music] Good evening. Welcome to the Thursday, July 9th, 2026 meeting of the Lakeville Planning Board. It is 6:30 p.m. and we are meeting this evening at the Lakeville Police Station at 323 Bedford Street. We do have Lake Cam recording this evening. Is anyone else recording? 2 00:00:46.960 --> 00:01:01.520 hearing none. We do have a quorum being present. I will uh start on our first item on the agenda. Um the revised agenda uh item number two is really our agenda item number one uh this evening. 3 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:19.920 So a public hearing for um oh actually and it's at 7:00. So we actually have to wait till 7:00. >> Yep. >> Shoot. So, >> so 92 Howland 7:00. >> Yeah, 4 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:39.520 >> I just realized that. >> Yeah, we saw it. >> Sorry about that. >> No, no problem. >> In the future, there's no need to put times. >> So, uh, agenda item number two, um, meet with Serpent regarding rules and regulations update. We do have the 5 00:01:39.520 --> 00:01:56.560 most recent draft of the updated rules and regulations in our packet. Um, there has not been a response to the questions from town council that I've seen so far. Um, so I think we are still waiting on those to come in, but 6 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:10.479 otherwise as soon as those come in, >> we'll get the explanation from Taylor and we will post the public hearing. So I don't foresee it um is happening for our next meeting like I had hoped. Uh so that'll probably get pushed back at 7 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:28.400 least to um probably the August meeting. >> Madam Chair, is this the formatting that um because it looks really nice. It looks clean. >> Yeah. So >> and I know she said something about sending um some bound copies. So that'll 8 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:46.959 be nice too to see if um we get those. But yeah, definitely an improvement from 1987. All right, so that should be tentative for August 13 at this point. If we have 9 00:02:46.959 --> 00:03:03.360 to push it back, we will. Any questions, comments on anything about the rules and regulations? The only thing I will say and I wanted Kathy to weigh in on the fee schedule, 10 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:21.840 the one item that um >> what page? >> 15 cuz the way that we had site plan rem review, we had it as um like minor major and now it's site plan review and then it's site plan review modification. So, 11 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:42.000 I just wanted to make sure because I I I felt like the 500 per requested change was high, but I don't I don't know if that I wanted to just check with Kathy and I didn't know if she had had a chance to compare it to what we were doing. >> Okay. >> So, that was the only thing that was still kind of a question in my mind when 12 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:56.560 I went through it. >> Um, I do agree that is high. So yeah, we definitely should take a look at that or have her look at it and >> as well so as well as the 1,000 for the first developed acre and 500 per 13 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:12.799 additional up to three acres. So I I know that is a little different wording and that Taylor was trying to help us work on and I just wanted to get Kathy's input because I know she's the one that's been dealing with the fees. >> Do we know what types of administrative 14 00:04:12.799 --> 00:04:30.479 um efforts uh have to go along with any kind of modifications. >> So >> to make the fee that high >> that's probably a Cathy question, right? >> To see exactly what's entailed. >> I mean it's pretty much the same dealing 15 00:04:30.479 --> 00:04:46.720 with the peer review if anything has to go back to peer review getting those quote arranging the communication if they have to do site visits all that. Mhm. >> Um, but yeah, that was just the only thing and I know Taylor had tweaked it for us. I just wanted to make sure Kathy was 16 00:04:46.720 --> 00:05:02.080 okay with it >> since she's more familiar with, you know, here >> and council still has to go through this too, right? So, >> nope, they have >> they've gone through. Okay. >> So, that's what we're waiting. So, he had sent back his draft with his changes 17 00:05:02.080 --> 00:05:19.759 and then Taylor had some questions regarding his changes cuz there were there were a number of changes need um and she just wanted to be able to help explain >> the reasoning behind some of the um items that were changed. 18 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:35.759 But yeah, so at this point we will >> okay >> await yeah >> further update on those questions. Okay. >> Is that everything? >> Yep, that sounds good. >> Okay. [clears throat] Um, 19 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:55.919 agenda item number three. Uh, review the following zoning board of appeals petition. A Olive Vera Investment 47 Beach would have we do have uh the explanation in our packet. Now, typically for 20 00:05:55.919 --> 00:06:15.520 a residential request like this, we don't send comments back to zoning board. Um, they're familiar with handling the caveats for when they can allow a variance. Um, I will say that this is a 21 00:06:15.520 --> 00:06:32.800 big variance though, especially where it is because we know there's nitrogen loading, but bought a healthy way on on all of those things. Um, and then conservation obviously because of of the proximity to the water. But I 22 00:06:32.800 --> 00:07:07.919 don't see anything personally that the board would weigh in on unless either of you. >> Nope. I had no feedback on this. And this has no relation to 17 beachwood or are they? 23 00:07:07.919 --> 00:07:33.840 >> No, it's separate. >> Separate. Okay. So would anyone like Donna did you have any questions, comments? I'm sorry. >> Okay. Would someone like to make a motion uh to send a 24 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:50.400 >> Do is there any comment from the uh audience on this? >> No, it's not a public hearing. So >> All right. Um, I make a motion to um send to the zoning 25 00:07:50.400 --> 00:08:08.240 board of appeals uh no comment from um the Lakeville Planning Board on 47 Beachwood Avenue. >> Second motion and a second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I. And the next one is 26 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:28.479 uh 17 Beachoot Avenue. This one they're looking to add an accessory structure. So, this does sort of it references uh the recent bylaw change that we did bring to town meeting previously. Uh 27 00:08:28.479 --> 00:09:01.920 they're looking for um some [clears throat] relief for the square footage based off of the lot size. And I know they've dealt with a few of these at this point. >> Yeah. >> Um unless there is, you know, any comments 28 00:09:01.920 --> 00:09:16.560 that you >> no >> think we should send I would >> entertain that. No comments on it. Um >> motion for >> no comment for this one as well. >> So I make a motion um to send to the 29 00:09:16.560 --> 00:09:34.720 zoning board of appeals um for 17 Beachwood Avenue. No comment at this time from the Lakeville Planning Board. >> Second motion and a second. All in favor? >> I I motion carries. >> All right. We have agenda item number 30 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:49.120 four. discussed a possible vote regarding uh recommendation on planning board associate and full member. We do have and actually I don't see the um associate member actually now that I'm 31 00:09:49.120 --> 00:10:05.279 thinking but we had one uh interested party for the associate member and that was Ann Turpin and we have two for the full planning 32 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:28.480 board two-year unexpired term term. We have a letter of interest along with a resume and for one individual and then we have an email for the other individual. If we want to um since we only have the 33 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:48.079 one option for associate member, would someone like to make a motion to now we're sending a recommendation to the select board to appoint um for in >> and that's for the associate position. Correct. >> Okay. Just just wanted to make sure. So, 34 00:10:48.079 --> 00:11:05.600 um I um make a motion that we send um a letter of interest to uh >> no a recommendation >> re sorry [laughter] uh recommendation to the Lakeville uh select board uh for Ann Turpin for the 35 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:22.000 Lakeville Planning Board associate member position. >> We have a motion >> second and a second. All in favor? I >> I >> I motion carries. And would someone like to make a recommendation for the 36 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:38.079 two-year unexpired uh planning board seat? >> Um I make a motion to uh recommend Michelle Bellard uh for the remaining two-year vacancy on the Lakeville Planning Board. 37 00:11:38.079 --> 00:11:56.959 >> All right, we have a motion. >> Second and a second. All in favor? I >> I >> I motion carries. We will get those recommendations over to the select board. >> I said that name correctly, right? >> I believe so. 38 00:11:56.959 --> 00:12:12.720 >> All right. >> All right. Agenda item number five, discuss battery battery energy storage system bylaw. That uh we're waiting until the fire chief arrives. Unfortunately, I told him 7:00, which is the same time as the public hearing, but 39 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:28.480 um if we get closer to 7, I think we're going to open the public hearing prior to 7, assuming that it'll continue. >> Yep. >> Past 7. >> Okay. >> Um so, we'll come back to that. Agenda item number six, administrative update. 40 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:44.240 Possible vote on any item listed below. We have the storm water management bylaw update. I have no further update on that right now. the OSRD update. Um, so conservation, I still haven't seen their memo come in. >> Okay. 41 00:12:44.240 --> 00:13:01.920 >> Um, I talked to the chair. She said she was going to send something directly herself probably. >> Um, and then that that's all the feedback. >> Okay. um so far. So, I at this point would like to 42 00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:17.760 send a um an email to the town administrator and the select board letting them know that we'd like a placeholder for fall town meeting. Do you need a motion for that? >> Yes, I would. Um, 43 00:13:17.760 --> 00:13:34.480 I make a motion to send a letter to the select board and the town administrator notifying [snorts] them that we would request a meeting for September. >> Just a placeholder on the >> placeholder on the town meeting um for 44 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:52.320 conservation commission >> for for the OSRD. >> For the OSRD, sorry. >> Perfect. All right. >> Not really perfect, but [laughter] >> you're getting there. >> We have a motion. Uh second >> and a second. All in favor? >> I >> I we will get that sent over to them. Uh 45 00:13:52.320 --> 00:14:07.120 consultant for Lakeville Hospital determination for Brownfields. I'm just keeping that item open on the agenda since we haven't really we got a response. It wasn't moving forward with a consultant of any type right now, but 46 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:24.480 I think it's worth keeping on um just for this status. Um, planning staff update. I have really good news. >> We concluded interviewing for the planning clerk position and 47 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:41.839 the offer has been accepted >> by an individual and the hope is that the onboarding is completed this week and he will start on Monday. >> So, I'm very excited. I think it's a excellent fit. I can't wait for you guys to meet him. Um, we'll be I'm gonna be 48 00:14:41.839 --> 00:14:57.920 uh discussing tomorrow with the town administrator, going over with Kathy the expectations for training and all of that. >> So, that should be happening. It'll be nice to have somebody back in the office and know >> to send all these memos and emails and I won't have to 49 00:14:57.920 --> 00:15:14.160 >> uh be is on top of it >> and um yeah, we'll have somebody at our meetings again >> for support >> and that was a lot of work on your part being involved in the interviewing and yeah with a team people. Yeah. So 50 00:15:14.160 --> 00:15:27.600 >> yeah, it was that's great. >> Not bad. I mean, I'm glad to be involved at the same time, but yeah, it's obviously a process. Um, and we had good options to choose from. It's just I think we found one that, you know, is is 51 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:44.800 a really good fit. Great. So, yeah. Um, so, yep, that's planning staff update. Uh, ADU bylaw. Taylor would probably be able to give us another update on that 52 00:15:44.800 --> 00:16:01.440 when we see her next. I haven't seen anything as far as theou that she mentioned yet, but that is the next step. Uh Pinerest Village update. So, um the applicant for Pinerest, they were looking for 53 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:16.639 uh the release of the lots. So, Kathy did look into this and check to see where everything stood as far as conditions. And we did have the last letter from peer review. There were a few items. >> Yep. 54 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:34.480 >> Regarding the silt uh fence had to be installed as depicted on the plans. >> Yep. >> In a couple different areas and uh she had checked with conservation. Conservation still had some items that they were um I think the agent was going 55 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:50.240 to go out and put together an email on that too. So once those items are buttoned up, then we'll put it on the agenda. We'll take a vote to release the lots and we also need um >> an estimate from peer review for the amount of charity. So once we have that, 56 00:16:50.240 --> 00:17:05.760 we we will get that >> Yeah. >> um moving forward. >> That's great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I took a ride down there um last week. It's starting to come along. Looks good with the binder down and everything. So >> Right. Yeah. They were they had to observe it, so that was good. 57 00:17:05.760 --> 00:17:22.559 >> Yeah. Yeah. So, excellent. >> Yep. >> Well, >> all right. >> Um, should we go into recess? >> So, I'm actually I'd like to I think we're close enough to seven that we'll be continuing past 7 if we open the public hearing at this point. Do you 58 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:37.520 think you'll >> It's okay with me, but my presentation's going to about 45. >> Oh, okay. So, we'll wait then. >> Yeah. >> I was hoping you had at least 10 minutes. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> All right. We'll wait. Um 59 00:17:37.520 --> 00:17:52.880 so at that point we will take a momentary um recess. >> So I uh make a motion that we uh take a recess and reconvene at uh 7:00 p.m. >> Motion second. 60 00:17:52.880 --> 00:18:17.760 >> Second. All in favor? Hi Lake. >> You entertain a motion to open >> I will entertain a motion to uh resume after our short recess. >> I make a motion to open the Lakeville Planning Board meeting at 7:00 p.m. >> All right, we have a motion. Second and 61 00:18:17.760 --> 00:18:34.640 a second. All in favor? I >> I. Meeting is resumed and I will begin reading the um public [snorts] hearing for definitive subdivision 92 Holland Road upon the application of LMB realy trust for modification to an approved 62 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:49.840 definitive subdivision plan for a two lot subdivision to reconfigure the drainage basin submitted by Zenith Consulting Engineers assessor map 12 block 2 lot 26 and I will read the notice of public hearing. The Lakeville Planning Board will conduct a public 63 00:18:49.840 --> 00:19:06.880 hearing pursuant to Mass General Laws chapter 41 section 81T on Thursday, July 9th, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. No, at 6:30 in the notice at the Lakeville Police Station, 323 Bedford 64 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:22.880 Street to consider the application of LMB realy trust for a modification to an approved definitive plan for a two lot subdivision located at 92 Holland Road and submitted by Zenith Consulting Engineers LLC Assessor's Map 12, block 2, lot 26. The modification is to 65 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:38.080 reconfigure the drainage basin at the rear of the property so that it will be located completely off the 90 Howland Road property. The application and assorted documents can be viewed in the planning department by appointment or on the planning board's web page. Would 66 00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:54.480 someone motion to open this hearing? >> I make a motion to open the Thursday, July 9th, 2026 hearing. >> Motion second. >> Second. All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Our public hearing is open. Welcome. 67 00:19:54.480 --> 00:20:11.440 >> Great. Thank you very much. So, this is a real simple one. This is the the subdivision that you guys approved a couple months ago. And very simply and quickly, what happened is this lot got conveyed. This is the old plant, the 68 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:27.440 plan that you guys approved. And there was a there's a deep there's like a little valley here that we were utilizing a hole depression that we were using for the drainage. And um because it's in the bottom of this area, we had 69 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:43.200 included this as a drainage easement. For whatever reason, that drain that easement did not get conveyed when that lock got conveyed. So it's not on there. [laughter] So the the change is very simple. 70 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:58.960 you'll see that that easement is no longer here. And what we did is we literally just built a burm on the bottom of this uh depression to keep it all keep all the drainage on on the slot rather than it spilling over 71 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:15.440 onto this one. So, literally the only change is get rid of that easement and build that burm right then. Okay. >> All right. So, I know I'm I'm glad that you were able to get that done. I know we got some calls or emails from Angry 72 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:32.880 Abutter that was very surprised to move in and find out that there was something there that she was not aware of. So, I'm glad you guys were able to figure it out, move it um away from there. Um I think the plan is to just send it over to peer review just to ensure that all 73 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:49.440 the calculations cover all the drainage as necessary. Um, do any board members have any questions at this point? >> Nope. >> I don't know. Okay. Any questions from the audience? >> No. >> No. 74 00:21:49.440 --> 00:22:06.000 >> Should be a nice quick review. I could review that in 15 minutes. >> Well, so I know Kathy already sent it over to Bill Thomas, so she was waiting to just hear back um cuz we know you guys have been waiting cuz she was out of the office. >> Yeah, we understand the situation. limited time in there, but we're hoping 75 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:21.520 to move it along for you. So, >> yeah, >> as soon as she gets it, you'll get it and then I mean the issue is it's a mistake by whatever team member that forgot to get that easement on the deed. So, >> right, >> it is what it is. So, luckily it was a 76 00:22:21.520 --> 00:22:37.360 very simple fix, >> right? Good. Yeah. Um would So, we'll continue it to our next meeting, I'm assuming, July 23rd. Does that work for you? of course >> from somebody in my office. [laughter] >> Okay. If anything happens and we don't 77 00:22:37.360 --> 00:22:54.240 we're not ready, we can always just continue it, but we'll put it for the 23rd. Someone would like to make that motion to continue. >> Um I make a motion to continue um the hearing for 92 Holland Road to uh Thursday, July 23rd, 2026 meeting. 78 00:22:54.240 --> 00:23:12.000 >> Motion second. Second. All in favor? >> I I >> thank you. Hopefully no time on the uh >> right [laughter] double check it next time. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Have a good night. >> All right. Agenda item number 79 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:29.440 five. Discuss battery battery energy storage system by law. And we do have the fire chief Chief O'Brien with us this evening. he um discussed this and he was he took the 80 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:47.039 initiative to uh bring up this battery storage. >> Well, it's um it's something that's discussed a lot between the fire chiefs. Uh it's um I'm not opposed to battery uh battery systems, energy storage systems. Uh they just need to be located in the 81 00:23:47.039 --> 00:24:04.080 right spot. um they present some hazards to firefighters and they uh can represent some hazards to the public. And so I think it's important that um that the town of Lakeville has a has a you know a bylaw in place that um regulates where they can go and maybe 82 00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:20.240 doesn't dismiss them out of hand prevent them from coming in, but making sure that they're placed in the right place. Uh and and some of the the language of the the the bylaws that have, you know, gone back and forth. Um, you know, we've looked at other towns and um some best, 83 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:37.279 you know, some lang we've picked out different things from from other bylaws that we that we liked and um that we didn't like and we've kind of made some enhancements that might be unique to Lakeville. Um, so from a emergency responder perspective, when we respond to a uh an a fire and an energy storage 84 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:52.559 system, you have to really make two choices. You have to either choose to put it out or choose to let it burn. Um, so one of my first calls would be to the state hazmat team >> uh for air monitoring because the the initial evacuation zone is about 300 ft. 85 00:24:52.559 --> 00:25:08.240 And you'll notice that the the uh the exclusion zone for I'm not actually sure what the planning terminology would be, but the the the you know the required minimum space for an energy storage system is 300 ft. So we've already taken taken care of that 86 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:25.120 initial evacuation zone. So it's a 300T initial evacuation zone. We do air monitoring and testing and we continue to expand the zone based on our findings. That's the that's the practice. Or if I put it out, I have to be aware of uh water runoff because of 87 00:25:25.120 --> 00:25:40.720 the chemicals and the and the water that becomes contaminated. So if it's important that we don't have these uh these systems located close to drinking water um because the the we would contaminate our drinking water. So, it's really important that we put it in an area that's outside, you know, the what 88 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:57.600 is called the zone A uh you know area that's something that's contributes to a drinking drinking water or drinking water. And it's important that we don't we don't put it next to uh any residential property because uh because the need for evacuations should something burn. So, if something's remote, 89 00:25:57.600 --> 00:26:14.480 um I'm more likely to take the stance of letting it burn. Uh and I it's less risk for me, it's less risk for the public, uh less contamination issues. It's of course it's it's not great for our air quality, but if it's in a remote location u or an industrial location away from like where people are sleeping 90 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:30.799 um then then it's less of a concern of mine. In additional additional Lakeville unique consideration, it takes um thousands and thousands and thousands of gallons of water to to extinguish one of these systems. Uh we don't have uh water infrastructure in this town. Uh so uh 91 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:47.039 the capability of trucking in enough water to actually quench one of these fires is is is would be pretty challenging as well. >> And I think from what I understand is these fires even if they are put out they tend to reignite over the course of so many days too. So >> there's different guidance. I've heard 92 00:26:47.039 --> 00:27:03.279 as long as 90 days. Um, so if we have a car like a a Tesla or some type of uh electric car kitchen fire, um, there's only certain uh salvage yards that are designed to accommodate them. They have to be towed to those. They usually like have to be contained within like a like 93 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:19.600 a concrete uh uh concrete area away from other vehicles. They have to be remote from buildings. They'll just randomly reignite. Uh, there's some communities that actually will dedicate a fire truck to follow the the wrecker to the salvage yard because of the instances of of reignitions. um we don't really have the 94 00:27:19.600 --> 00:27:36.159 resources to do to do that. Um but that it's all these um I'm not opposed to green technology, but there are all these challenges that really haven't really be considered uh and we haven't really been uh equipped to deal with and and one of the most common problems that we have with these energy storage 95 00:27:36.159 --> 00:27:51.919 systems or or even the vehicles or solar panels is the lack of uniformity in the systems. So, you know, we can make we we try and ch train and prepare for these systems. Um, but you know, we generally it's tough to have a steadfast uh procedure for something when there's so 96 00:27:51.919 --> 00:28:07.600 many varieties of of the technology out there. Uh, we're always running into something new and it's it's very unregulated and it's kind of the wild west when it comes to this stuff. And I think that that's something to commend you as well because I see so many >> things that are rolled out on an 97 00:28:07.600 --> 00:28:24.640 national scale and it's almost like learn as you go. It's this reactive rather than proactive and this is a proactive approach. I appreciate your proactiveness in this town overall and I think this is one more thing. So, in speaking with Nancy Dery, who's now the 98 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:41.039 planner in Freetown, Freetown adopted a battery battery energy storage bylaw this past spring. >> And so, a lot of the language that we did integrate. So, the fire chief had looked at three or four different towns and then I looked at the Freetown and we 99 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:58.000 integrated those items together. Um, I think a lot of the stuff in red is taken right from Freetown. um the bylaw there and I think it's I think it's pretty good and comprehensive. It could probably use 100 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:14.320 some formatting. Maybe we could have Kathy do that. [laughter] >> Yeah. I I don't know like I don't know the pro I've never really I've submitted like uh opt-in bylaws like stuff that's already in Mass General Law, but I've never really uh been involved in the creation of a of one from the start. So 101 00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:29.919 I don't know if it needs to be vetted by council. I don't know what the >> Yeah. So, so the process, so I would like to one, if this board is amendable, I'd like to send a placeholder for fall >> for this one as well. So, if we're sending an email for OSRD, send it for 102 00:29:29.919 --> 00:29:47.360 this as well. I'd like to keep it on our agenda. Um, >> get Kathy's input, see if she can maybe format it. Um otherwise when when it's submitted and also send it around to all the departments, boards, 103 00:29:47.360 --> 00:30:03.520 etc. Um who'd be interested for feedback. >> Um just ask that they get their feedback to us in a timely manner probably within two weeks or you know prior to our next maybe not our next meeting but the follow-up meeting because we have to have a good draft in order to hold the 104 00:30:03.520 --> 00:30:18.399 public hearing prior to town meeting and all of those things that we have to get done. And here we are. I know we always think that we have time before time meeting, but here we are. We're looking at the next meeting in July. We usually forego the second meeting in August. So that leaves us one meeting in August. And then the warrant is probably going 105 00:30:18.399 --> 00:30:35.200 to open and close in September. So So there we are. We have two meetings before um the warrant will close, but we will still have time to hold that public hearing between when the warrant opens and closes and before town meeting. So we'll just have to figure all those dates out. But 106 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:50.320 >> if you I mean there's plenty of sources that I can send through online if you want to do some some of your own research on the topic and maybe some of the catastrophic occurrences that have happened in other regions of the country. >> That would be good to know. >> So just the reasoning behind it. So um 107 00:30:50.320 --> 00:31:05.360 just for your research, I can send it to you individually if you want. >> Yeah. >> There's a there's a couple quick questions I do have um with regards to this battery storage. So, is it lithium based battery storage? For the most part, 108 00:31:05.360 --> 00:31:20.559 >> there's different chemistry. Lithium's got the one is the one that has the >> the the reputation for being um uh there's one instance out there where firefighters made entrance into uh a facility and they were scanning it with 109 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:37.600 the thermal imaging technology and got readings of just over 100° >> and before they could evacuate um evacuate that area or they were withdrawing the area there was thermal runaway and an explosion that that actually threw them through a chain link fence. So um it it escalated that 110 00:31:37.600 --> 00:31:53.039 quickly. >> Um and so uh >> lithium seems to be the one that is the bad actor. It's the most efficient one. It's I mean these systems are put in place to basically offset uh >> you know store energy during during low, 111 00:31:53.039 --> 00:32:10.240 you know, low consumption time and save it for peak. >> I mean there's there's a market for them. There's a lot of profit in putting these systems out. So, you know, when you're dealing with something that's in demand and can generate a lot of profit for somebody, it's really important that we have a check in place, which is our planning board and, you know, our AHJs. 112 00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:27.360 >> Yeah. I mean, you know, I think it's great that we're definitely thinking about this bylaw um and try to get something on the books because it's, you know, just to make sure, you know, we've got a place for it in the instance something were to 113 00:32:27.360 --> 00:32:43.039 >> I don't know. >> I don't know if I don't I haven't pulled the you know, the other communities, but I have to think we were probably in the minority as far as city uh municipalities without a bylaw or with bylaw. Uh so it's it's over. It's it's time. >> Yeah. And that was one thing that came 114 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:59.840 up in speaking with Nancy Dery about the data center bylaw. She mentioned the other thing you have to look at is this because that is the talk of the municipal planners in the state. So absolutely >> mostly they'll come in with a solar array like part of a solar field. Sure. >> Uh they're partnered up with that and we 115 00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:15.840 haven't seen that yet. Um but there is a possibility that somebody would want to add one to an existing >> uh you know solar solar um field. So, >> so then the only thing that I have for this board really is so right now it would be the tier one allowed in 116 00:33:15.840 --> 00:33:30.720 residential, business, industrial, industrial B uh because those are the smaller residential >> y >> um systems. Um but the tier 2 and the tier three um only by special permit in industrial 117 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:46.799 but it's also do we want to include it in industrial beer or not? Because the reason I bring this up is prior to um you both being on the board, a prior member had mentioned how they had tried to get rid of industrial B and they didn't want to put anything further in 118 00:33:46.799 --> 00:34:02.559 that. So um >> I don't know if it's if it's industrial, we might as well allow it in industrial B or if we want to stay in line with what >> I was told years ago and I'm I'm hoping I'm getting it correct from the memory. 119 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:18.399 But so my thought is should it be just in an industrial be a special permit and no in industrial B or should it or you know how does this board feel about that as far as the location? I'm okay with the you know whichever way >> is that decision we have to make tonight. 120 00:34:18.399 --> 00:34:35.679 >> No, we can get I can ask well and see if that's how she remembers it. >> Yeah. Yeah, that'd be good. Just >> that's my only question for this board. Yeah. And and as far as tier one, I know it seems like there's really no regulatory oversight, but there's a ton of language in the in the build the 121 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:51.359 building code and there's a ton of language in the fire code for and both the building inspector and the fire inspector have to sign off on all those systems. >> Um so they're they're heavily regulated already. >> And through you, Madam Chair, to Chief O'Brien. So, I know this is really being 122 00:34:51.359 --> 00:35:06.720 pushed upon by the the governor to have more of these. Um, but >> is does the state have any sort of grants for specific communities that do have or 123 00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:24.720 will be getting um these uh u you know, battery storage areas >> for fire suppression and whatnot to help? >> I'm not >> assist departments. Okay. Yeah, I'm not aware of any at all. The only thing we're cautioned about is to making to making our our bylaws too restrictive um 124 00:35:24.720 --> 00:35:40.000 because the uh if they're challenged the state leans on leans in favor of the developer versus the town. >> So that's the only thing we've been cautioned about. >> Okay. So I will say too from reading right before coming in this meeting actually I was reading um so the state 125 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:56.920 budget they did just pass the budget at a state level and there were a lot of things that I was concerned and kind of hoping to like what happened with that. So they did make a lot of amendments because they've actually been talk there's a lot of talk and certain um 126 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:15.119 endeavors to strip the local rights and and and push certain things but um that isn't one of the things that um has gone through. there is a lot of money for AI for um defense and 127 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:32.480 things in that electronic realm. So there may be more funding >> depending on where that shakes out as far as the >> currently approved budget this year. >> Okay. >> So we'll see how it how it goes. But otherwise, um yeah, it's better to have 128 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:48.880 something on hand rather than not >> Yeah. being reactive or having somebody bowls over. >> Absolutely. So, I would like to keep this on. Um, we could probably put it under administrative update going forward 129 00:36:48.880 --> 00:37:04.800 where we've been keeping track of our other items um that we're keeping on here. >> Do we uh need to um let the select board know that or Andrew we want to put as place? >> Yep. if you want to make that motion for 130 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:20.240 the placeholder for fall meeting. >> And Andrew is aware of the of us working on this as well. So, >> great. So, um I make a motion that we send a letter uh to the select board and town administrator um regarding placing 131 00:37:20.240 --> 00:37:36.560 a placeholder for the uh fall uh town meeting uh for a battery energy storage system, also known as BES bylaw. >> Motion second. Second. All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. We will get that 132 00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:51.680 placeholder for Thalltown meeting set up. >> We'll get we'll send it around, get some input. >> Anything that we get back, we'll probably try to incorporate some edits and then >> get it on that warrant with town council's review. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. 133 00:37:51.680 --> 00:38:08.240 >> Thank you, Chief. Appreciate it. the select board. Um, is there any plan to communicate these things to the select board so they have some background information on battery >> storage facilities? >> So now the fire chief, you did put 134 00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:23.440 together this presentation. Who saw the presentation? >> Nobody. >> Nobody. Okay. >> Yeah. I figured we'd uh this is my first stop and because I think you guys are the >> you guys are the permitting authority. So >> yeah. and then I can uh I mean I can go from there and share it out with >> so so we'll be holding the public 135 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:40.800 hearing and then you know the process for the select board is they'll do a warrant review and there'll be time so at that point it would probably be myself as chair and I'd invite Chief O'Brien because and I'd also welcome him to speak at town meeting. Yep. >> I don't know if we need to go so far as 136 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:56.079 to doing a presentation with Lakeam at town meeting. Um, but I I'm if if you have the the presentation and want to forward it to them as well, I think >> I I think, you know, we'd have to play it by ear. If we thought there was push 137 00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:11.520 back or people that didn't understand the what they were voting for, we can respond to that, you know, >> right? It's hard to tell, [laughter] >> you know, based on who shows up at town meeting, but >> um I think we did data center >> data center went well. >> Yeah. Yep. >> That was [laughter] 138 00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:27.839 that was more than we didn't even need any help getting that one over the finish line and we had more than more we had plenty of help for that. So, we'll see. >> Yeah. All right. So, I'm available to whatever whatever I can do. >> All right. Yeah. So, we'll um we'll keep this on the agenda. 139 00:39:27.839 --> 00:39:43.520 >> All right. >> We'll move forward and get feedback and get it on the town warrant. >> All right. I appreciate the help. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Always happy to work together. I know. It's been a good It's been a good relationship. Appreciate it. >> Yeah. Thank you. 140 00:39:43.520 --> 00:40:00.960 >> All right. >> Good work. >> Enjoy your evening. >> I will do my best. >> All right. [laughter] >> All right. The next item on our agenda, agenda number seven, next meeting, July 23rd, here at the Lakeville Police Station. 141 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:17.040 Any other business? >> Not at this time. >> All right. Would someone motion to adjurnn? I make a motion to adjourn at 7:21 p.m. >> Second motion and a second. All in favor? Hi. 142 00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:21.560 >> Hi. >> Meeting is adjourned.