WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=h9TqwpLoio4 NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: h9TqwpLoio4): - 00:00:31: Meeting Call to Order and Kenneth Welch Drive Introduction - 00:02:22: Campanelli Presents Cold Storage Expansion Plans and Details - 00:11:45: Planning Board Review and Discussion of Site Plans - 00:20:52: Donna Questions Snow Storage; Continuation Date Set - 00:24:21: Pinecrest Village Site Visit Summary and Resident Concerns - 00:34:55: Mike Nashardi Public Comments on Pinecrest Bond - 00:44:16: Status of Pinecrest Project Discussed, Moving Forward - 00:44:34: Discussing Potential Data Center Bylaw Creation - 00:53:52: Debate Location/Zoning Requirements for Data Centers - 00:58:17: Motion Made for Town Council Advice and Placeholder - 01:00:07: Review and Comment on A. Salby ZBA Petition - 01:02:17: Approve February Planning Board Meeting Minutes - 01:03:05: Review and Approve 2025 Town Report, Discussion - 01:07:44: Stormwater Update, Open Space Development and Concerns Part: 1 1 00:00:31.279 --> 00:00:47.760 Good evening. Welcome to the Thursday, March 26, 2026 meeting of the Lakeville Planning Board. It is 6:30 p.m. and we are meeting this evening at the Lakeville Police Station at 323 Bedford Street. Uh we do have a quorum this evening. The only member missing is 2 00:00:47.760 --> 00:01:04.799 Jack. Um, we have Lake Cam recording. Is anyone else recording? Hearing none. Uh, I'll start with agenda item number one, a public hearing site plan review for 234 Kenneth Welch Drive. And I will read the public hearing 3 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:19.920 notice. The Lakeville Planning Board, pursuant to the town of Lakeville Code bylaws, chapter 270, section 270-6.7, will hold a public hearing on Thursday, March 26, 2026, at 6:30 p.m. at the Lakeville Police Station, 323 Bedford 4 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:36.159 Street. The purpose of the public hearing will be to receive information and public comment on the following site plan review application. 234 Kenneth Welch Drive. The applicant, Campanelli, seek site plan review and approval for the construction of a proposed 29,400 5 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:51.439 ft addition to an existing building to be used for cold warehouse storage. Four additional truck dock bays are also proposed along with a new storm water basin that will be constructed in the eastern corner of the site. The building design will require the roof lines to 6 00:01:51.439 --> 00:02:06.560 match which will increase the existing height nonconformity from 35.7 ft to 37.5 ft. The application and assorted documents can be viewed in the planning department by appointment. Would someone like to make a motion to open? >> I'll make a motion to open the public 7 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:22.480 hearing for 234 Kenneth Walsh Drive. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I >> hearing is open. Welcome. >> Hi. Good evening. Uh Garrett Horsefall with Kelly Engineering Group, civil site engineer for the project. With me tonight is Jeff Wyman from Campanelli. 8 00:02:22.480 --> 00:02:38.720 They are the design build um contractor for the proposed project here. Uh so the subject site is 234 Kenneth Waltz Drive. There's an existing cold storage facility operated by Cold Storage Solutions. They also operate several other buildings within the industrial 9 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:54.480 park here as well. Um this building primarily stores um seafood products. Um the other buildings, some of them store cranberries, but it's primarily a seafood cranberry operation throughout. There's several buildings that they own um or not own, but rent within the park. It's owned by a different entity um 10 00:02:54.480 --> 00:03:10.560 Cranberry Campus LLC. Um the subject sites about 9.8 acres. Um we were in front of the conservation commission on Tuesday evening um for the work proposed within the buffer zone. Um again we're also in front of the ZBA tonight. Um our 11 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:26.239 attorney is there for the height relief that was mentioned previously um in the meeting notice um that was read into the record. Um so just for reference the site sits here Kenneth W drives on the plan south here. Um there's commercial properties um on the east and west side 12 00:03:26.239 --> 00:03:41.519 and to the north is um primarily wetlands undeveloped land. Um the 100 foot buffer zone for reference is out through here. Um and the other applicable buffer zones throughout the site are shown as well more for the conservation purposes. Um access to the 13 00:03:41.519 --> 00:03:57.439 site today is one curb cut from the site. Um there's a small parking area about 11 parking spaces there today. And then these are the six existing truck docks here. The loading operations are here. Then the high bay cold storage is in the rear of the facility. Um the 14 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:14.560 existing equipment is all the ammonium um refrigerant. Um it's all exterior. Um and our proposed plan, you'll see that we propose to relocate that and replace the entire ammonia system as well as part of this project with a new refrigeration uh system that will get rid of the ammonia um component of the 15 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:31.120 site. Um which I believe everybody is happy for and the developer is happy as well to get rid of it. Um this site was developed in about 2008 I believe. Um and about and just for reference the drainage from Kenneth Wils Drive did have an outfall into here as part of 16 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:46.720 that work. We there it was rerouted behind the building. So there is a head wall um approximately here and then the drainage goes that way. But the rest of the site roughly drops from elevation 81 to elevation 62 at the wetlands. More of a elevation drop as we get towards the 17 00:04:46.720 --> 00:05:03.199 back of the site here. Um all of the site today drains to um it's hard to see just because of the overgrowth, but there's an existing infiltration basin here and another smaller one here. Um all of the site um impervious surfaces drain uh through there today. However, 18 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:19.440 we did notice um as part of our review of the record documents that it appeared that a portion of the roof um it's a split roof sort of down the middle here um appears to just discharge freely. Um however the design plans were proposed to be routed uh through storm water management ponds. So um we've addressed 19 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:35.680 that in our proposed design which I will go into now. Um all right so uh proposed addition is about uh 29,300 square ft. Um essentially, if you remember where the 20 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:52.000 refrigeration equipment was in here, um we're extending that lower bay um loading dock area. Um creating four new loading positions. Um more of a logistical um item honestly just because of the interior circulation. Um they would have had to reroute all these 21 00:05:52.000 --> 00:06:07.039 pallets. This actually by creating dock here allows them to make a direct connection into the freezer expansion here just for operational purposes. Um and primarily the purpose of this expansion is just more storage space quite honestly. Um we don't anticipate 22 00:06:07.039 --> 00:06:23.600 um many more employees at this park at this site. Um we have proposed three parking spaces um sort of here just to kind of allow some access into these new egress doors um for maybe an employee that might enter the loading dock area through there. But the primary entrance 23 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:38.479 will still remain at this corner of the site here. Um along with the handicap accessible space um at that area. Um the loading dock area will be extended. We have a standard 130 ft loading dock apron um for larger um tractor trailer 24 00:06:38.479 --> 00:06:55.360 trucks. Um there is a fire access portion that we've created here just for fire um access to extend throughout the site. We did meet with the fire chief um earlier this month to review site access here. Obviously, it's a little constrained on this side of the site. Um 25 00:06:55.360 --> 00:07:10.400 there's a big swale with topography on this side. Um so any access road through here is very difficult. He was understanding of that and um as part of this project, we were actually going to upgrade the entire fire suppression system within the building to bring it all up to current code. Um he was fine 26 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:27.440 with the access that we showed. However, he wanted us to just pursue um if we needed to upgrade it per code or if we were doing it voluntarily. Um and basically we have a fire suppression engineer that's been engaged for the project. Um we do have a flow test scheduled I believe Monday of next week. 27 00:07:27.440 --> 00:07:42.960 Um we'll have more information on that design and whether or not and advance that design. But he was ultimately looking for possibly some more ladder hatches up to the roof etc. But overall, he was happy that we were upgrading the fire system and um happy that we were just in front of him to talk to him 28 00:07:42.960 --> 00:08:00.479 before we got to the front of the your board. Um so the storm water components here will be very similar um to what exists today. Um we are proposing to reconstruct the infiltration basin um and consolidate 29 00:08:00.479 --> 00:08:17.759 this one and this one into one larger basin at the rear of the site. All of the imperous uh paved surfaces and portions of the roof will be routed through that basin with appropriate water quality device um prior to uh infiltration basin uh entrancing um just 30 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:32.800 to provide appropriate water quality TSS removal and peak mitigation through there. And then on the left hand side of the building here um we are proposing another subsurface system to capture the roof runoff um through here just logistically um speaking the elevation 31 00:08:32.800 --> 00:08:49.600 as it drops this direction um really can't get from A to B from via gravity. So we did add another um uh storm water management BMP on this side of the site to address the existing um roof runoff that does go down that portion of the site. Um so just for reference this 32 00:08:49.600 --> 00:09:05.360 building is roughly um there's a 10-ft exposed wall back here. That's the primary reason why the height relief we are requesting is by the average grade plane. The existing building slightly over it. Um we did consider some alternatives in terms of retaining walls 33 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:21.440 back here but you know didn't want to get much closer to the wetlands than we already were and the local bylaw has applicable setbacks for retaining wall heights etc. Um dimensionally speaking um we do fully comply with the exception of the height um coverage. We're very close to the 50% allowed. We have 34 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:37.760 deducted the applicable wetlands and surface pond um from those lock coverage calculations um as allowed for in your bylaw. Um just a couple of the utility notes here. Um the septic system is back here. Um we did get a note, I believe it's in your packet from the board of 35 00:09:37.760 --> 00:09:53.600 health agent. Um, our plan is just given the very low usage of this building, um, essentially just get rid of the septic field completely and there'll be a tight tank. It's really just that they're flushing the toilet a few times a day here. There's very minimal employees. Um, we'll coordinate that with the board 36 00:09:53.600 --> 00:10:10.880 of health, but they seemed receptive um, to that approach and we'll gladly present them the final tight tank details um, associated with that. Um, electrical service is going to be upgraded um, through the whole building. um lo local electric contract workman has already met with middle bar gas and electric um to do the service upgrade. 37 00:10:10.880 --> 00:10:25.360 We'll be relocating the transformer to this corner um and just bringing the service back in. The water for fire and domestic will remain um at the same location at this corner of the building. Again, the interior fire suppression will just be upgraded to current code 38 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:42.399 standards um to address that. Um we did submit a lighting plan um for this proposal. It's basically all new wall packs to light the new area through here. It's all um LED downward facing uh no spillage off the property. And there 39 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:57.600 also was a traffic study um submitted uh for this project. And um essentially it's a very low traffic uh generation uh from this I believe for the IT which is a conservative approach. They did get empirical data which u for the existing 40 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:14.320 use which was lower than the IT numbers that were produced by chapel engineering our transportation engineer for the project. Uh the IT numbers are about 66 uh trips per day here and about three vehicles in the peak hour. So it was about one additional vehicle every 20 41 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:29.519 minutes or so um that's accessing this uh property here. So very minimal impacts um on the traffic and an already established industrial uh park and uh infrastructure here. Um and I don't really have much else to say. Again, we 42 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:45.680 are in front of the ZBA uh tonight. Um our attorney is uh representing this project is there um along with one of Jeff's other associates. So we're glad to answer any other questions. >> Okay. And just um for to note for the record um as you mentioned we do have a letter from the board of health 43 00:11:45.680 --> 00:12:03.920 discussed in the tight tank um and they didn't have any objections. Typically what we do is we'll include a condition um that just says you have to you know comply with whatever they have you do and if they do require you to 44 00:12:03.920 --> 00:12:20.000 make any changes you'll have to just make sure that you bring any changes to the plans back to planning board as well. Um, also as you mentioned, the fire chief has sent over a memo as well. He's um encouraged that you're um 45 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:35.200 you're working with him. As you mentioned, we also got a memo. I'm not sure if you had seen the one from the select board. Um, this one was not in our packet. It was sent separately. There were two comments. Um, the first one, please confirm that the additional 46 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:51.040 three parking spaces are sufficient for the proposed expansion. And two, please note to the applicant that they will need to apply to the select board if they are looking for an increase in their w water allocation. >> We we did receive that. I believe that was forward to us um possibly yesterday, 47 00:12:51.040 --> 00:13:06.639 but we did receive those. >> Okay, very good. Um and so at this point, >> board Yeah. Um no, look, looks good. So the equipment obviously you changed all the refrigerant for all the cold and that's why obviously that was one of the fire 48 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:22.800 chief's comments with like you guys are replacing that all that equipment going inside now or rooftop or is it >> it's going to be on >> rooftop get it from the grade and put it up top because it wasn't on there >> so and just for clarification is it no longer ammonia though 49 00:13:22.800 --> 00:13:38.240 >> they're coordinating with a refrigeration consultant that'll be by the tenant through them. Um, I believe they're considering two types of systems right now, but it won't be ammonium either of them. >> Okay. >> CO2 or one other that they're looking at. >> Okay. 50 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:54.959 >> Um, I know he had like I know like the height the height doesn't bother me because I I understand the the aspect of it. You're only expanding out where the grade drops off. So, the building height like the height and fire department is not getting back there anyway. So the height doesn't really the additional 51 00:13:54.959 --> 00:14:10.959 height I guess in the back doesn't matter cuz they still have to get from the they're going to have to get from the new loading dock side right if they cuz >> yeah they can't fight fight >> they can't get they can't back there anyway so the extra height I mean the height's usually based on on that for the apparatus so I think that's okay and we'll I'm sure your counterparts over 52 00:14:10.959 --> 00:14:27.360 the ZBA are are explaining that too. Um, so yeah. No, I guess my biggest question was the same thing that I think that the select board had was the the employee the the parking count because we know that parking is a sensitive subject down on Kenneth Walsh Drive. >> Y 53 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:43.760 >> um so I was like I know that and what is the employee count? Do you know currently? >> Currently it's around 5 to six employees. >> Okay. >> Um and how this operates? So 234 and then next door is 230 and then next to that 220. Mhm. 54 00:14:43.760 --> 00:15:00.320 >> So they're all run by cold storage solutions. So as Garrett mentioned, this building's primarily seafood products and then the other two are cranberries. >> But depending on harvest times and when product is being shipped out, >> some places are busier than others. >> The employees, there's not employees in 55 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:16.560 both buildings. They kind of move from building to building. And and also as Garrett mentioned, there's we are not increasing the employee count. >> No, it's the storage. Yep, it's all racking. And really the intention of those three parking spaces, they are 56 00:15:16.560 --> 00:15:32.079 going to relocate an office in that central area there so the um >> to keep them closer than >> the woman who takes the slips in from the truckers can access both sides of the dock. >> That's fine. Yeah. And so, um, 57 00:15:32.079 --> 00:15:48.160 the the parking, I feel as though you've covered the employee parking, and I don't think that there's ever been a history with parking on the street for this building specifically, but I do know that during cranberry season, sometimes there's trucks waiting. So, I know obviously you're going from what, 58 00:15:48.160 --> 00:16:05.440 six docks to 10 docks, loading spaces, >> correct? Correct. So hopefully that'll alleviate some trucks waiting in the >> Well, this is just seafood, right? >> Yes. As right now, >> just seafood, but you mentioned the berries as well. >> Yeah, right now this building just does 59 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:21.839 uh seafood product and the other two do cranberries. >> Okay. >> Yeah, they might be for the other buildings. >> So it won't be really affected by >> We don't anticipate cranberries just because the refrigeration is so unique for them in the freezing process. you'd have to it's kind of built to seafood is 60 00:16:21.839 --> 00:16:38.160 what they intend to do here. >> Okay. >> So, I guess my question is um about the um now that you're adding additional dock spaces, are you do you have a routing plan for these trucks, I guess, when 61 00:16:38.160 --> 00:16:53.360 they come in >> in terms of just pulling in and backing down into the docks? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, the intent is just pulling this way and back down into the docks. Um, some of these are a little tight over here. It might be for smaller box trucks, but um, the intent is just to 62 00:16:53.360 --> 00:17:09.039 pull back down here and then they pull back out. There's a 130 foot dock apron, which is standard for a warehouse distribution um, center of this this size and quite honestly quite larger facilities. >> Okay. All right. So, 63 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:23.919 um, anybody else have any >> the the existing building, the roof drains to the to the left side there? There's a about a 50-50 split. So, some of it actually goes to this lower roof portion. >> Okay. >> And then it's picked up within this 64 00:17:23.919 --> 00:17:38.400 drainage um system within the existing parking area >> that that drains to under the parking area. Y >> that that will go back to the pond. >> Correct. Yes. >> And then the the new part then is it all internal drainage that >> No, just due to the freezer we can't do 65 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:55.280 internal drains. Um so yeah. Um but it's going to be exterior. So this was sort of one of the challenges of designing this project was the grade change back here in coordinating with with the architect here the roof pitch and where we could pick up the roof to get it from A to B. So it all pitches there's a 66 00:17:55.280 --> 00:18:10.000 point here that comes back to this point where the roof drain for this new roof roof system starts and then it goes via gravity back to the pond um in this direction. So we do um once we essentially held the 25 ft buffer zone um in respect for conservation and then 67 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:26.400 we graded up at 3:1 um as quick as we could up to the building to get that grade back up alongside the building and be able to have appropriate cover over a drainage system. >> So there's really only kind of one external downspout on the back of the building 68 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:42.240 there. >> There will be several more once the plumbing plans are further developed. Um, however, we did pick this point in coordination with them just to have it outlined, but there will be probably several other downspouts um once they advance the pump. 69 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:57.600 >> Yeah. I mean, I I just saw the the one invert and I didn't know if there was any other >> there there will be other downspouts that'll that'll be external and picked up within the roof collection system um once we get those final downspout locations, >> but all of it will be routed through the 70 00:18:57.600 --> 00:19:13.200 stormwater basin or the new subsurface. That's that that was what I was trying to understand was was how you were routing it >> and they will have a storm water peerreview conservation will um had that but we'll obviously work so we we'll 71 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:30.160 have the same peer reviewing for the civil as well. So that'll be part of what we get >> as well. Any other >> Yeah. Have they have they gone through conservation? >> No, they're going concurrently. So while they're going through planning board is right now, right? >> Yep. We were at conservation on Tuesday 72 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:47.280 night and really there were very minimal comments from them. Um, and really they were just waiting to get the peer review back. >> Did they do they approve it or they waiting for peer review? So they're waiting for >> once once they get the peer review. >> Okay. >> They'll go through it, address any 73 00:19:47.280 --> 00:20:04.480 questions, and then we'll get it after they're done with the storm water to go over civil. So >> Okay. >> Yeah. Um, >> yeah. And I guess so I'm sorry, one more thing. >> No, I was just gonna ask the >> Yeah, you have anything to talk about? >> The um this is the board of health. So 74 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:20.720 they I know that the leeching field existing leeching field is under where the new additions going. So if some reason they come back and say no, it can't be a a tight tank. is that you'll have to is there no spot for that or >> it would most likely be underneath the the parking lot which you know is 75 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:36.559 commonly done you know just in the interest of not ripping up as much as we could in >> I mean they seem like they're on bullet so I don't think it's a big deal um >> the soils here are great sands um so you know there it could be relocated to a portion underneath the parking lot over 76 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:52.960 here just got to redo the building plumbing as best we can to locate that but yeah >> there are other options Yeah, I just I didn't want like be painted the picture and they come in the 11th hour and then you have to go through the whole process over again because you have to change that. >> Um Okay. Yeah, that's all I had. Looks 77 00:20:52.960 --> 00:21:12.320 fine to me. >> Donna, did you have any questions? >> Oh, thank you. And how about snow source? Um did you locate that on the plans? >> Uh yeah, it's on the other side. So, we've got a ton of just these white clouds in between here and all on this 78 00:21:12.320 --> 00:21:37.600 side of the site. So, basically all of the apron areas and um parking areas have allocated uh snow storage spots. >> Okay. >> Very good. >> So, I think I'm I'm satisfied for now. Um we'll continue this. So, how I don't 79 00:21:37.600 --> 00:21:54.400 think we want to continue to our next meeting, but probably a month a month out. Give you some time because conservation needs the peer review back and then uh or you'll get the peer review, you'll respond. So there's typically some time in between those. 80 00:21:54.400 --> 00:22:11.840 >> So ideally, so you're aware that it's the same peerreview engineer for both conservation and planning boards. >> Um so Merrill has been released on the conservation part. Um Gary and I are actually uh going to meet with them with Deb uh late next week just to review any 81 00:22:11.840 --> 00:22:28.240 comments she has on the conservation part um because we're back in front of them on April 14th and we want a couple days to be able to respond to anything. >> Um I would request that planning als I I did provide a check uh 82 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:44.320 a couple weeks ago to release the marijuana planning as >> we were waiting for this meeting. to make sure that all comments would be submitted over to um the peer review. >> Understood. >> And so >> obviously if if you have to make any changes, you don't want to start 83 00:22:44.320 --> 00:22:59.360 >> the other re, you know, portion of the review unless you're sure that all the changes have been made. So I think probably best off once the >> drainage portion is done or the storm water is done, then have them add on the the civil which 84 00:22:59.360 --> 00:23:16.480 shouldn't be as extensive. I respectfully request that they do it concurrently just for >> peer review. >> Yeah, that's how it normally would be done is concurrently. >> We would do one response letter back that um would address drainage and slate 85 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:32.960 comments to both boards, >> right? So, well, my we just need a date for continuing which I'm looking at April 23rd which would be our not our next meeting but the following. >> Next is the 9th. You said the 14th. Our next meeting is the 9th. So I don't you mean we wouldn't have it back? 86 00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:48.240 >> Yeah, you wouldn't. >> It to be the 23rd. Does that work for you guys? >> Yep. >> Yeah, we just wanted to make sure that that they were both going and Deb was getting both reviews going concurrently. >> Well, like I said, they were we were 87 00:23:48.240 --> 00:24:05.039 waiting till after this first hearing to open for planning. So then it'll be >> Yeah. Yeah. No, we just >> we don't like setting the meeting and then have to continue it and then have to continue it. So that's all was giving ourselves some time to give it to them. >> No, I understand the process. So >> Okay. So will you would someone like to 88 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:21.520 make that motion to continue to the April 23rd? >> I'll make a motion to continue 234 Kenneth Welsh Drive to April 23rd, 2026. >> Second. >> Motion in the second. All in favor? >> I >> I motion carries. We will see you next month. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you guys. No problem. Thank you. 89 00:24:21.520 --> 00:24:41.520 >> Have a great night. You too. Good >> luck with the other one. You can run up. You can make it over now. >> There. All right. Um I believe we have someone here for one of the administrative update items for Pinerest. Is that correct? All right. So, we'll take that out of um order. 90 00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:58.000 Agenda item number six, administrative update. Possible vote on any of the items below. Um the third one down, Pinerest Village. Um so, Dan, you did go out to Pinrest. You took some photos. you did a summary 91 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:13.760 that's uh available in the packet. >> Yep. So we did uh two site views. Uh first one was on March 13th, so it was shortly after our um last meeting. 92 00:25:13.760 --> 00:25:30.480 Um and then on March 16th, um the observations were done both on a uh visibly dry, windy day for the first one and the second one was that um heck of a uh rainstorm we had um on the 16th. So 93 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:46.799 it really gave me a opportunity to really assess the site in both conditions. So, what I will say is um as I reviewed the site the first time around, um there wasn't any visible uh ponding 94 00:25:46.799 --> 00:26:02.320 on the road or anything, especially with the recent um melt of the 36 in of snow we had in the previous weeks. Uh the detention ponds look very good. Actually, they were um under um the uh 95 00:26:02.320 --> 00:26:18.640 the pipe halfway. So, they were really really um it the conditions were drier than what they have been. Um what I did do is um I did meet with uh resident Eric Stanley who's at one Hickory Drive. 96 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:35.039 So, he's actually the the last the first house on Hickory Drive, but the last house of the U the original development. Um this because of the location of where it's at. Um 97 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:51.039 the challenge with where his um area is is that it's a it's a breakoff between where his driveway his his real driveway is technically um I would say probably 98 00:26:51.039 --> 00:27:09.520 50 to 75 ft um away from uh the start of Hickory Drive. And um it is used as a frequent truck turnaround for those low boys. And the pipe did not it was a PVC pipe. It did not appear to be the 99 00:27:09.520 --> 00:27:25.360 corrugated pipe rather did not appear to be broken but the road beside it and everything. >> Um as you can see from some of the photos uh was definitely broken up. It looks like there was and again this was pre looks like pre-existing condition. 100 00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:41.600 It looked like there was one um layer of uh of pavement put in, not the final uh pack pavement, but uh there was some definite um ruts in the road um to that 101 00:27:41.600 --> 00:27:57.279 drive as well as um some damage around that part of the end of the culvert. So, um I wanted to make note of that because you know the low boys are turning around um in that area and some of the construction vehicles and whatnot. So, 102 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:14.240 that was the first review. Um you'll also see some of the photos that are depicted um anything where was this picture? This one >> that was right at the um so right outside of one hickory. 103 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:29.120 >> That was at that was at after the >> Yeah. So if if you were to look um right >> that way where that line kind where that line's like looking almost that where that line is that's where um the corrugated pipe was uh right there. Um 104 00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:46.080 so we made that made that line in there and uh uh there was cones put there because the trucks were backing up over it not seeing it um just because of the uh tight corner there. So that was the first observation. The second one, um, I decided to go out three days later for 105 00:28:46.080 --> 00:29:05.200 the, uh, the, uh, rainstorm. Um, and, uh, surprisingly, um, with the melt and everything, um, what I did observe was, um, yeah, there there was some puddling on the roads, which is normal. Um but 106 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:22.799 what I will say is that um you know the wetlands were um you know because of the heavy downfall and everything were um definitely taking the water. Um but it was working as it should in my opinion. 107 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:43.279 Um what I did do is um drove down um the uh existing Hickory Drive observation. I did notice a slight rut um on the side of the road, but it looked like it was um already there already by the um frog pond. Um 108 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:59.840 observation two was at the end of Hickory Drive on the right side of the street. There is some uh ponding there. I did not observe any ruts in the road or whatnot. Um it just the uh you know there was snow pack and everything at 109 00:29:59.840 --> 00:30:15.360 the end of that route. I did not observe any type of uh drainage or anything at that corner um where the water could drain off. Uh observation three was taking a left onto Beach Tree. Uh Beach 110 00:30:15.360 --> 00:30:29.840 Tree by those trash cans you'll see. Um there was water on the side there, but um that was ponding on the side. There is wetlands past those trees, but the wetlands weren't draining over into the 111 00:30:29.840 --> 00:30:47.600 street. So, I just want to make that um um observation apparent that appears to be a pre-existing road condition um from the construction. Observation floor um as you'll see that is where the uh corrugated pipes uh were 112 00:30:47.600 --> 00:31:02.720 put in. Now, we have a nice steel plate over that. um you know uh Greg Moroni the builder uh made sure to work with um you know the conditions to ensure that there was a uh steel plate over that. Um 113 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:19.200 I know that the conservation agent was out um prior to that week as well. Also observed that um you know the drainage looked very good. You've got three corrugated pipes which is taking all that water from the wetlands um and 114 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:34.320 filtering it down including um where the detention area is up um up by the Pinerest um proposal site. So that water was coming down. There were no obstructions. The water was flowing uh 115 00:31:34.320 --> 00:31:53.360 right into the pond um very freely. Uh it should also be noted that even with that downpour um there was no sediment there was no observation of any mud or anything else from those um from those uh areas. So uh 116 00:31:53.360 --> 00:32:10.080 you'll see in observation five uh the grass swale um you can tell there was a lot of water flowing through there but it was going into the pond. It was still within its limits. Um there was no sediment. Uh observation six. So this is at the 117 00:32:10.080 --> 00:32:26.080 corner of Piner Beach Tree and Pinerest Drive. So this is um the home that has the cobble nice cobblestone. Um there was puddling um over there. Um I did not observe any uh runoff or anything. Uh 118 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:43.760 the soils were taking it in. Um, as uh the conservation agent did describe, you'll see at the end there, there is some crushed peace stone which was uh moved uh by a uh plow from the evident storms over by the um the uh rail fence. 119 00:32:43.760 --> 00:32:58.960 Uh you can also see some of the residing uh residue of the snow over there. Um there was not a lot of water over there. Um just normal. Uh what I did observe though on that day um was there was some 120 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:16.159 ruts on the side of 22 Beach Drive. So that is the same house with the cobblestone uh driveway. Um it's hard to say if it was damage done by a truck um or by a FedEx delivery truck, Amazon. I mean it's it's really hard to say. But 121 00:33:16.159 --> 00:33:32.080 what I do want to point out though is as I you know went back up to the actual site um the um what the um developer did do is you know all the drainage and 122 00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:49.120 everything was working as it should. Um obviously there was no construction that day. It was a mud pit. But I will say um based on my observations, from my planning board opinion, um everything looked pretty well. My only concern was 123 00:33:49.120 --> 00:34:06.640 uh the first day um right in front of um Mr. Stanley's home where um Hickory Drive was. uh and that I would also deem as pre-existing conditions, but might have something to do with the current uh 124 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:22.960 impact of the uh current project right now with the trucks and so forth turning around. And that's pretty much all I have. >> Thank you, Dan. So, um Kathy has reached out to the builder and um let him know that I guess um 125 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:38.639 we didn't have the final set of plans in the office. So, she asked for a copy of the most recent plans. I think there were some changes um >> from conservation that we don't have. >> So, she asked for those and let him know that we'd be looking um to 126 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:55.679 >> pursue the next pure review milestone. >> So, she did make him aware of that. Um and it looked like he had responded. So it's just a matter of um getting that to move forward. >> Yep. >> Um 127 00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:14.320 did you have have any questions, comments you wanted to add? If so, please come up and state your name. >> Uh Mike Nashardi, a beach drive. Hi. Uh I guess the main question at this point we were talking about a bond last 128 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:31.200 meeting wasn't try to do that to make sure the road is >> right but that'll be at the end >> because you don't want to yeah have anything be fixed while they're still doing >> some something to make sure that he's going to be going to be responsible to do it is with >> Kathy Kathy said she thought that there 129 00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:45.839 was a bond. She's not here this evening. She had another meeting to go to but >> does the association get listed on that too? See as I would >> no it would just it would just be uh put aside >> for this project >> for for any damages to be addressed. 130 00:35:45.839 --> 00:36:01.599 >> Okay. So if so say something there is damages does that money go who does that money go go to to fix? Does it go what do you guys do with the money? It's held there to make sure he he corrects the issues. Correct. >> Right. 131 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:16.640 >> So if he doesn't what happens with that money? So typically the the town would have to pursue someone to be able to do those repairs and then >> so so it is it's it's definitely it's not something that gets absorbed into the town. 132 00:36:16.640 --> 00:36:33.440 >> No. No. And he like what will likely happen is he'll fix it and he'll want that money back. So >> that's the motivation for him to ensure that he does >> fix it. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I mean that's that's the only I can think of at this point. 133 00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:50.320 >> Yeah. And you know, a lot of the water coming down was definitely pre-existing conditions. >> Yeah. Pre-existing to what though? That's that's what >> the last project that was done. >> Yeah, it was that you mentioned were were higher up there. There is water 134 00:36:50.320 --> 00:37:05.119 that does come down into that culvert in front of um Mr. Stanley's house. Um the water does flow in there. Um but for this particular project, for this particular observation, which is what we 135 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:22.480 were set out to do, um it's only applicable to this project. >> So what does the association do with the previous project and all the water runoff from that? >> So were those done as ANRS? Were those single house lots of >> That's how we get around it. >> So that's So are they a part of the 136 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:37.040 association? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I you have to ask John that. I don't know exactly. There is an association whether I don't think they're exactly with ours. I think there's a separate association on that road for them. >> You guys are the Huckleberry. Correct. >> Which one? >> We're the originals, 137 00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:52.880 >> right? And the other one up Robins Land. >> I don't know what they call that one. >> The new people. >> There you go. >> They should have been Huck Finn and Tom. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> If you're keeping with the name. >> Yeah. It gets very worried. >> Is Huckari Null and Huckari Schelers or something? 138 00:37:52.880 --> 00:38:07.839 >> It might be Huckari Null. >> Yeah. Yeah. So what what do we do with that issue with that runoff? What are our recourse besides paying for ourselves, which we don't have the money to do? 139 00:38:07.839 --> 00:38:23.440 >> So let's get through peer review first on this project. Peer review is very helpful in doing a very thorough review. Um they'll go out, they'll look at the site, they'll also look at, you know, what was observed as well. They'll also look at the comments from conservation 140 00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:40.079 and their observations. um they will also do an independent review of the site as well. So at that point, you know, they're going to look at, >> you know, what what might be issues. >> They're just going to look at 141 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:54.960 >> what what they have in front of them right now current. So, anything that's pre-existing that wasn't done through subdivision, through planning board that doesn't have any conditions. >> I mean, it's really a civil matter because there's no >> may maybe the town should look at that 142 00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:10.400 and not allow a builder that owns eight pieces of land to do it as eight separate houses because that it's just a workound for all that work that would have done to prevent prevent the flooding that we're going. >> Believe me, you know what? And so many 143 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:27.280 things have we've we've evolved processes just in the last five six years because of these things that are now known you know like before when and we still we're still trying to get a planner that will stay in town. Um we have a lot of issues and there's a lot 144 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:43.040 of water issues all over town. uh we have a high water table, lots of wetlands, we have you know ponds people want to live on but the thing is so we have >> building down >> well so there is a caveat that if there's an acre of disturbance even for residential and we had to deal with this with the howland road because they were 145 00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:59.520 ANR in lots and put it in the houses and we had to condition it to say that if you do disturb you have to come to planning board to make sure that the storm water is done through peerreview and we were able to capture that but it it's we're volunteers and it changes, 146 00:39:59.520 --> 00:40:14.160 you know, it's a five-year commitment for one term, you know, so and so we don't have a planner, so we don't have a full-time position overseeing planning board perview items. And like I said, we've been checking them off, 147 00:40:14.160 --> 00:40:30.880 though. We've been trying to um just better the processes that for for planning board ourselves. And like I said, we've been working on a storm water pilot for almost two years, trying to get it to a point where we can get it um through town meeting. Maybe the town should slow down with all this building. 148 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:45.440 If you guys can't handle what you're what's coming in, >> it's not that we can't handle what's coming in. It's things that were done in the past that have no mechanism to address it like you said. So, it's a civil matter and you want the town to do it, but the town didn't approve it through planning board. It was just done 149 00:40:45.440 --> 00:41:02.560 because it was a buildable lot. So, there are certain things where that were done. So, we don't have small lots, we have larger lots that um obviously that was something that was put in place. So, these are things that people have done over the years that yes, improvements 150 00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:18.960 have been made, but um you know, we still have um you know, shortages in town departments and and here we are. Look at the budget this year. So, it's kind of hard to to point a finger when you know, we're doing the best we can with the resources that we have. 151 00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:36.400 >> So, how and it's not possible to turn it over to the town. >> So, where >> turn it over to the town? You mean like adopt the road? >> Because it's not built to standards. >> Yeah. >> So, you would have to pay to put all those upgrades into that road to get it to the standards to to be accepted. 152 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:52.720 >> That's what should have been done when the houses were built. That That's my point. That's what should have been done when you added 20 plus houses to a small little neighborhood downhill. >> So, we never did. So, you can you can go the land owner the land owner did because he was able to do it within his 153 00:41:52.720 --> 00:42:06.880 right within the law. So if you don't like the laws, that's how you know residents can bring a citizen petition to town meeting and change the law. You know, that's >> just a shame. Okay. >> What one of the problems that that 154 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:22.560 happens is that we're not able to look down the road uh when we're dealing with this project and say, "Okay, these other things are going to happen." 155 00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:39.839 We've got to handle it upfront because we're not allowed to. I mean, and and a and a good example, and I' I've been gone for for a while on vacation, but I came back and and it's not in Lakeville, but I I think it's a 156 00:42:39.839 --> 00:42:55.680 good example over across from uh uh the Star Drive-in where there's a storage area put in. Now, there's a gas station being put in next door to it. And that's on the side where there are houses next 157 00:42:55.680 --> 00:43:14.560 door. And I'm sure that that the developer came came in with the storage facility first, got that approved, and then came back for the gas station when the proper 158 00:43:14.560 --> 00:43:30.160 way to have done that development would have been the gas station on the other side closer to 140. >> Mhm. You know, it just it just made sense. But you could >> I don't think they're owned by the same person though. So like >> No, they are. They are. >> I don't I don't think so. >> They are cuz he because he also owns the 159 00:43:30.160 --> 00:43:46.000 land for Star Drive in >> South Coast. >> Okay. But but it's one of those things that you know if you're looking at it ahead of time, >> you say it should be done this way, >> but a planning board doesn't have >> that power uh to 160 00:43:46.000 --> 00:44:00.880 >> dictate what someone can do with their property, >> right? so far as, you know, outside of the bylaws, >> right? >> And I I'm pretty sure they had to go through ZBA in Taon for all of that. >> Yeah, they they they may have I just I just saw it 161 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:16.880 >> yesterday. There it is. >> Yeah, I just saw it yesterday and it was kind of Hey, that this was stupid. >> But let's let's um get back to the agenda. Um so we we are still working with Perry view going to you know see what the next 162 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:34.480 milestone is for um checking out uh the situation out there. >> Okay. >> All right. >> That's it. I could thank you very much. All right. Back to agenda item number two. Discuss data center bylaw. Um, this was something 163 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:52.079 that Kathy had come across because it was on the um the the mass planners emails. So, there's like this email group that they discuss certain items that different towns are um concerned with and the town of 164 00:44:52.079 --> 00:45:10.800 Mansfield went ahead with this um bylaw for data centers. And it was my thought that if we're not sure what we're bringing to Springtown meeting, I'd hate to like pass up an opportunity to do something if we could quickly. >> Um because we obviously have OSRD, storm 165 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:26.560 water that are kind of pending certain outcomes. Um but if we could for one define uh data center and one of the things that they had here um under the definition 166 00:45:26.560 --> 00:45:48.560 >> the use one you should be classified >> so if you define it so if you don't define it it could come in as any business office use under business >> so I think if we define it Um, and the the the last line of the 167 00:45:48.560 --> 00:46:03.680 definition uh that Mansfield is using, it says, "For purposes of this bylaw, a data center shall not be considered an office use." So, we would just reward it to what Lakeville uses for business office. >> Um, so if we could add a definition and 168 00:46:03.680 --> 00:46:19.599 then my question is, so in Mansfield, they're actually putting it under two zones. They have two different industrial districts. We obviously have, you know, residential, business, and um um industrial industrial B, but that's really not to 169 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:35.760 be added to. >> Um my thought is >> could we add it as a marijuana overlay? Because we already have the existing bounds of the marijuana overlay. It's already shown on the zoning map and it's only in specific areas in town. Um, I 170 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:53.359 don't know if we can add it on to that. I guess that's a question for town council. Can we add it as marijuana and data center overlay and then make it by special permit in the overlay only and obviously by special permit it goes 171 00:46:53.359 --> 00:47:08.800 into Mansfield um talks about electrical demand if infrastructure cap capacity. >> So I don't think we can easily mimic what Mansville did because they have their own water, they have 172 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:25.440 their their electric, they have a lot of things that we don't have here. Uh, but I think it at least if we could do it define it, make it by special permit in only a certain area and if that area could just be confined to the same marijuana overlay, that'd be great 173 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:42.000 because it's very specific. Um I think we wouldn't want it close to schools just like they didn't want the marijuana close to schools and >> and so on. Um and then also just under special permits have like pick out a couple of these items that 174 00:47:42.000 --> 00:48:00.720 they have to to ensure that um as we already have special permits. It says, you know, cannot be detrimental to the neighborhood around and just use some of the items that they have in this bylaw. >> Mhm. >> Under special permit so that at least we 175 00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:16.560 have something that can capture it rather than waiting until a >> something pops up. Well, rather than waiting for a full bylaw to be worked on, at least if we could bring three items like a definition, a location, and a means by special 176 00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:36.240 permit, which they must prove that they will not be um too demanding like they have to show certain capacities from the electric electric department, certain capacities for the water department. Um, so if if 177 00:48:36.240 --> 00:48:51.760 this board is amendable, would we want to I think we'd have to send something over to the select board to hold a placeholder. I could help, you know, draft really quickly some something like that. Yeah. And then um the question would be for town council, can we place 178 00:48:51.760 --> 00:49:07.920 it in the overlay or would it have to be in a specific zone? I don't know if it could be added to it overlay. >> Yeah. Does it is the marijuana overlay up have particular boundaries to it? >> Yep. It's up It's up off of uh Route 44. >> Y >> Mhm. >> Um where we have 179 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:23.359 >> I don't know if you were there when we permitted the where >> No, I was I wasn't wasn't here when >> there was a marijuana facility permitted up there and then there's also the industrial park. Those are the only two >> Yeah. >> Oh, there's one in and and and that's in 180 00:49:23.359 --> 00:49:40.000 the overlay district. >> Uh that Yes. So there's two locations for the marijuana overlay off of 44 and in the industrial park >> because obviously we know that there's industrial and other areas of town that you know might not have water access anyways. So 181 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:54.160 >> Right. >> Yeah. That's that's the big thing is the their utilities are huge for data centers. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And could be very detrimental to the surrounding wells and >> right >> water conditions. I mean, this is 182 00:49:54.160 --> 00:50:10.640 definitely something we need to evaluate, you know, cuz it is going to be a big thing. I mean, it already is down in the southern states and they're already having issues. I mean, New Jersey already has one up and 183 00:50:10.640 --> 00:50:25.520 it's >> so that >> wreaking havoc. >> Some of the um other issues that they've found is that they're they're coming in and they're doing these nondisclosures. >> Yep. So that's kind of that's protecting 184 00:50:25.520 --> 00:50:42.319 >> them. So we we don't want them to try to come in as an office use and then have this incredible demand associated with it and >> it's too late. So I I thought maybe if this board is amenable, we could try to bring something to spring. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So we'll come up with a definition. 185 00:50:42.319 --> 00:50:58.319 We'll find out from town council about um the overlay. >> Y >> if it can be done that way. And if not then I guess we'd have to look at industrial >> by special permit only >> kind of rewriting the >> because I think you have even though so when I look at our use chart it does say 186 00:50:58.319 --> 00:51:14.880 it certain things are not allowed but there's an asterisk and I don't know what that asterisk um refers to because I I >> the way that I understand it is you can't say no to something. You have to still allow it somewhere. >> Yep. Has to be designated somewhere. 187 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:31.040 Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, other than Mansfield, were there any other >> This is the only Lawrence was >> Is it Lawrence or Lel that has >> Lawrence? >> Lawrence. Yeah. >> Is that the one that has one coming? 188 00:51:31.040 --> 00:51:46.240 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's going to be a big one. >> Yeah. All right. So, >> I mean, are there any sites within the overlay district that could be used that are big enough that could could be used or >> So, our industrial park is fully 189 00:51:46.240 --> 00:52:00.800 developed. >> Yeah. Right now, that's >> as well as I'm pretty sure the other industrial park is >> fully developed as well. >> Yeah. >> But you never know. It could try to convert to to another. >> Yeah. It could go in and and say, "Well, 190 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:16.079 we're we're tearing this down." And >> Right. Okay. >> Um, so did you have a question? I >> I do. Um, I just can trying to make the connection between the marijuana overlay district and it being associated with the data center 191 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:32.240 >> and it's not really association but maybe the things that a marijuana grow facility need which it similar utilities. Yeah. Power um >> water big >> power water also they have smell but so like obviously data center there's like a hum that comes with it. So maybe 192 00:52:32.240 --> 00:52:48.800 similar in those certain capacities, but not its own overlay. >> I think it would probably be too much to get ready for spring to do its own overlay. >> You made the definition and and then get it into what into the the zoning chart of where it goes. 193 00:52:48.800 --> 00:53:04.720 >> Yep. So we have like our bylaws break down our zones and it has the marijuana overlay. So can we just say marijuana and data center overlay? >> I don't know if that's a possibility. Then we'd have to add it into like into the the zone chart like thatart use 194 00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:20.880 chart. Yeah. So as >> residential no business no >> but actually I don't know if we'd need to because marijuana isn't listed because it's just a zone overlay. So we don't >> Okay. So we just we're just going to define as it has to be only in these spots where we're going to we're going to overlay that over those overlays are only industrial 195 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:37.440 >> because the the marijuana there's no it's not overlaid over any business or residential is it? >> It's industrial zone. Just >> industrial only. >> Yeah. two areas of industrial zone. >> So just definitions and then adding it to the to that verbiage. >> Mhm. >> To keep them in the same location if 196 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:52.720 we're going to put them somewhere. Okay. >> So if we can't do it as a marijuana overlay, that's when we would have to do it by special permit and add it to the use chart by special permit only in industrial. So that would be I guess our second option if we can't do it as as along with the overlay. >> Yeah, we won't. Yeah, I'm fine. Let's see. 197 00:53:52.720 --> 00:54:09.440 center. The key statement is over here on on B on the third page where it says data centers by permit only special. >> Oh, and then two, data centers shall be prohibited from all other >> uh zoning districts. 198 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:25.920 >> So that's that's exactly what we would put under >> that's the key >> under special permit. >> Yeah. Like if we could Well, >> no. I mean it has to has to go in the >> So marijuana has it marijuana has its own section under special permits. So we would do data center under special 199 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:42.160 permits. >> All right. Yeah. and h and use those items, but also probably incorporate something from this electrical demand piece too. Like I know there was something some good ones that just says that um you know available of electric capacity 200 00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:58.559 for each fate and you know we we can't get it we can't be as indepth as this because I don't think we have the time. Um, but if we can I'll pick out the more compelling items 201 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:13.440 >> because most of our special permits only have like two little bullet points >> like or anything, you know, not detrimental to the neighborhood. Not >> I mean, thankfully, I think, you know, we're we're mostly safe because of our lack of water, 202 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:31.280 >> right? >> You know, >> but you never know. >> Yeah. Yeah. you you'd hate to have them pull up and say, "Well, we're going to just take water from that pond right there." >> Right. >> So, if we're lumping them in with um 203 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:48.960 that overlay, at what point would we be able to be specific about what is and is not um >> appropriate. So I would say we would um >> there has to be a section added in 204 00:55:48.960 --> 00:56:05.040 definitions. >> So we could work well we could use time with serpented. So we could either have Serped help us write it if we have a town planner or a consultant somebody else to help write a good bylaw because like I said this one is good for Mansville but it doesn't really apply. 205 00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:18.799 So it has to be very like tweaked for Lakewell for sure. So in the meantime uh scenario is this goes through and and data center is added defined 206 00:56:18.799 --> 00:56:37.520 >> within the marijuana overlay district >> by someone only >> if someone is interested >> in having a data center >> Mhm. >> then what? So they would have to prove that it wouldn't be detrimental to the 207 00:56:37.520 --> 00:56:54.160 existing neighborhood surrounding >> without specifics within. >> Correct. So that's already our language for special permit like >> Okay. >> It and and I think there's some other caveats um for different items um I think off the top of my head right 208 00:56:54.160 --> 00:57:08.640 now. That's one that we just we just did we just did one. I I could have swore we did one that we kind of tweaked for special permit and I can't think of what 209 00:57:08.640 --> 00:57:26.000 it is off the top of my head. Um oh we did ADU added it by special permit for ZBA but I don't think that was that's not a good example. Um 210 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:43.359 but yeah overall it has to prove that it's not detrimental and that's what like I said to David if there's certain so he pointed to under B applicability >> B item two >> um permitted only by special permit in 211 00:57:43.359 --> 00:57:58.720 these zoning districts um shall be prohibited in other zoning. All applications shall comply with special permits and additional per performance standards. So maybe we can maybe we include additional performance standards and just create those at a 212 00:57:58.720 --> 00:58:17.440 later time. If we can do that. >> Yeah. I think you know if you if if you get something that at least kind of catches it >> right >> now and we can refine it. 213 00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:33.040 >> Exact. If we Yeah. We could use, you know, some other means to help refine it in the future, but at least get something so that it can't >> at least get something >> come in as an office use, >> right? >> So that it could be dangerous. So would someone like to make a motion? Will um 214 00:58:33.040 --> 00:58:50.799 I'll I'll fill out the town council form to try to get some advice from town council on two questions, I guess. Can we add it to the overlay? And um could additional performance standards be added at a later time if we just use that language in the bylaw. Um 215 00:58:50.799 --> 00:59:07.040 and we can ask >> and you have to ask the selectman to give us a >> Yeah, we'll ask Kathy to send a memo to the select board uh for a placeholder spring town meeting and we'll put it on our next agenda and 216 00:59:07.040 --> 00:59:31.680 hopefully have something to review that. Okay. >> I'll draft Yeah. Oh, >> you made it a hard motion to >> just say so move. >> Yeah, I I I move that we uh one ask the 217 00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:50.799 selectman for uh a spot for uh >> placeholder >> our data center. >> Mhm. uh >> on the warrant >> uh zoning ordinance in the in the warrant and two that we uh request uh uh town 218 00:59:50.799 --> 01:00:07.119 council time >> advice on those two things. Okay. >> So we have a motion >> second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> motion carries. I will let Kathy know. Uh agenda item 219 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:22.000 number three, review the following zoning board of appeals petition. A Salby uh five Christian Brook Lane. Uh this one is another example of a residential looking to build an 220 01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:38.319 accessory um structure, but they're also looking for a second level to be finished as usable space above it. >> Mhm. twostory carriage style garage 28T by 28T. So they're looking for a special 221 01:00:38.319 --> 01:00:55.760 permit from zoning board of appeals. Um it is located on a side street off of a connecting street. Off of a connecting street. >> Yeah. It's like >> so it is one of those areas where I think the intent of the the bylaw was to 222 01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:11.599 ensure that it's not going to become a detriment to the neighborhood. Do we want to send any comments over to zoning board or would >> No, I I think the only reason why they're out of um while they're out of compliance while they're beyond the compliance because 223 01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:28.160 it's two stories, >> right? >> It's one story. They're under the 900 ft and there's no other there's no other accessory building on the on the site. It doesn't look like or maybe >> Mhm. >> there is. So, I think it's only because the square footage of it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, >> which if they did this as an ADU, they 224 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:45.599 wouldn't they would be they wouldn't have to do anything. It would just be a site review as an ADU. >> Right. Right. But so yeah, so >> they have to put a kitchen and stuff like that in there. So they're just doing it as a bonus room. >> Mhm. >> So again, the 28 x 28 is only 750 225 01:01:45.599 --> 01:02:02.000 something square ft. So it's not >> Yeah. No, I mean I It looks nice actually, but I mean it's not like it's Yeah. They're putting >> Right. >> It's a nice neighborhood, too. I mean, next to the house, it it it's almost almost the footprint size of the 226 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:17.760 house, >> right? And they'll have to take down some trees. So, I'm curious to see if they have neighbors that'll show up or if if not, then I'm sure they'll >> have a lot easier time with ZBA. So, do we want to send a motion u no comment to ZBA? 227 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:32.640 >> Yeah. Yeah. I make a motion to send no comment to ZBA. Is that make a motion for this? >> Yeah. Second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? >> I I >> I. Motion carries. Agenda item number four, approve the February 12th and 228 01:02:32.640 --> 01:02:49.359 February 26, 2026 meeting minutes. Did everyone have a chance to review these? >> Yep. >> Any edits? >> I did not have any. >> I didn't have any either. Would someone like to approve those? Um, I make a motion to approve the 229 01:02:49.359 --> 01:03:05.599 meeting minutes from both the February 12th and February 26 um, planning board meetings. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor? >> I. >> I. Motion carries. Minutes are approved. 230 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:22.960 >> Review and approve 2025 town report. Possible vote. So, that is not in our packets. Uh, Kathy did draft it. She sent it to John and myself. I added a paragraph. Other than that, we'll have it on our next agenda to take a vote on it. >> Yeah. >> Um, so we'll just 231 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:40.559 >> And the initial review I had, it looked really good. So, yeah. >> Okay. >> So, >> so Oh, did she send it to everybody? >> I after. Yeah. >> Okay. Was was anything included about the joint meetings that were held that 232 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:57.119 you guys attend? Should it be? I just was curious myself. So, I've never seen that included on them. So, you can actually go on I I don't know how up toate they are at, but if you go into the town website, you can find the town reports and look at the other years. and 233 01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:13.520 it usually has a blurb about what what the responsibilities of the board or committee is. Um the statutes, the law, um >> what what have you done as far as um the paragraph I added was about town meeting, what we brought to town 234 01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:28.480 meeting. >> Um and then Kathy tracks how many site plan reviews, how many um ad uh ANRs, um subdivisions, all of that. So she includes that. um how many we've held 235 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:45.359 how many of those we've approved and then with the town meeting it's how many public hearings what public hearing so I've never seen it done as um joint meetings but if you want to look through if you see that other committees are doing it and you think 236 01:04:45.359 --> 01:05:02.160 it's pertinent then I mean yeah but I don't know how >> but so we don't track it though so I guess that would be a difficulty is would although we could just go through the agendas because they're all posted But >> I just wondered that was the only thing I thought of that you definitely participate in and is part of the work 237 01:05:02.160 --> 01:05:16.880 of the board to have collaboration with other >> true yeah boards. So I didn't know >> we can add something to that effect too. Work collaboratively with other boards and committees various occasions. >> Y >> um if we want to gather the dates I 238 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:34.720 guess we could. Um >> and one of the other things that came to mind too but I didn't add it was that we had hired a planner but then we lost a planner. So yeah, I don't know if it's worth really tracking or not, but yeah. Um, well, so if everybody was able 239 01:05:34.720 --> 01:05:49.760 to review the draft, do we want to approve it then? Do we want to approve it or do we want to add to it? >> So I guess my question was was the draft, did it include your edits in that 240 01:05:49.760 --> 01:06:07.520 draft or was that separate? So I just what I included was planning board held public hearings for ADU and site plan review changes >> because those were the two things we brought Springtown meeting. And we also 241 01:06:07.520 --> 01:06:24.319 had a third that we were going to get rid of accessory structure I mean accessory apartment but we didn't because there were other areas of the bylaw that it was still in. So, we had to John, you had a table at a town meeting, >> but we still had the p held the public hearings for those three items. 242 01:06:24.319 --> 01:06:40.079 >> So, I'm trying to >> Okay. So, that's in here then? >> It is. >> It is. Do you want to look at this? I don't know. I >> Well, so do >> Okay. So, then if that's in there, then >> I think that's the paragraph. Hearings on revisions to accessory dwelling. >> Yeah. She sent that. She sent. So, then 243 01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:57.119 I'm good. So, I think we can we can >> send that off. Yeah. Do we want to approve it then? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And then going forward if if you like I said if you Don if you want to review other ones and see if they're doing it because I' I've only looked at CPC and 244 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:12.960 planning board. >> Okay. >> I just was curious when I was going through it. So >> yeah. >> When when does it need to begin by >> nay? So we do have time. >> Oh yeah we have time. Yeah. >> It's okay >> for the next one. You just approved it, right? So >> Well, we haven't taken the vote yet. >> No, I haven't taken a vote. So we can 245 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:28.240 >> Oh, sorry. >> Sure. >> We can e I mean we can either >> put it back on the agenda for next week, next time we meet and with the changes and then approve it. >> I think she's okay with it. All right, 246 01:07:28.240 --> 01:07:44.640 let's just I'll I'll make a motion to approve the 2025 planning board your u being your report as drafted with the with Michelle's edits. >> Second that >> motion and a second. All in favor? I >> I >> All right, >> carries. 247 01:07:44.640 --> 01:08:01.640 >> Uh, back to agenda item number six. >> Next meeting. You want to go on? >> No, no, no. It was just I was curious, that's all. I don't want to hold things up. >> Not your saying nothing. 248 01:08:02.319 --> 01:08:17.440 >> Uh, storm water management bylaw update. So, this one I did check back with Serpent on the questions that we had. They are in the middle of grant writing right now. So, she said hopefully after next week they'll have some time. >> So, um I did just ask her to keep us 249 01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:34.880 posted on that. Uh the next item, open space residential development. Um there was a check-in yesterday I forgot about and then I didn't go to the um library public um >> information session. But Donna, do you 250 01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:53.279 want to share anything that >> Alex and I think it was Michelle were there representing Serpent. Uh there were probably about six residents total. Um some of them had questions. Uh others got up to speak. Um they were they had 251 01:08:53.279 --> 01:09:06.960 um easels all about the room with, you know, various graphics on it. uh talked about some of the um the draft that we're we're doing for the OSRD, although they don't have an updated one. They 252 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:25.199 just went with the 2024 version. Um so, you know, it >> what did you feel the feedback was? Did you feel it was positive, negative? What do you think? >> So, I think uh in terms of the survey, they didn't really review the results of the survey yesterday. Okay. Um they did 253 01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:42.239 have a board up with all of the um choices we had in the survey and encouraged people to take the survey that were there yesterday. >> Probably still open >> and yeah, I believe it's still open and um I think they were planning to share the feedback from residents that did it 254 01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:57.920 online prior to the meeting yesterday and those that may have been encouraged to do it. >> Okay. um after they left um you know some questions I think people are waiting to see a final draft too 255 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:13.520 >> uh so they can be more informed >> and ask more questions. >> Okay. >> So not really for or against just more of questions >> just questions. Um, one person asked um, who they might reach out to on uh, what 256 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:30.239 board might um, be an authority for the OSRDS, which is kind of the planning board. So, you know, we could have people reach out to us. >> Um, yeah. >> Okay. So, thank you. >> Thanks. Um, 257 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:46.159 so I think the next thing is so they've been doing the monthly check-ins with the different uh department heads, conservation, board of health. Um, and so I think we need them to come to a planning board meeting to go over um the 258 01:10:46.159 --> 01:11:02.960 draft. So, I think that would be my next request to them is just, you know, can they arrange a meeting to come to planning board, go over their >> uh when they're ready because obviously if they have to make any changes based off of feedback that they've gotten. Um, 259 01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:24.239 but that's my question I guess is can they um Alex, Michelle, whoever come. Um, uh, the next item, Pinerest Village, we already did that. Hospital site, Brownfields Council request update. So, 260 01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:40.719 I did go in and fill out the request form. It was approved by Andrew. So, that just needs to get sent over to town council for uh advice on that. Um, but that's kind of a twopart thing. >> We're hoping to utilize Stephanie as a 261 01:11:40.719 --> 01:11:56.159 consultant to um move that forward. >> Um, but obviously there's a lot of things up in the air with budgets and >> hiring freeze and all that. So, to be determined, I guess. Uh, committee liaison updates. Any updates? 262 01:11:56.159 --> 01:12:12.640 >> Lakeville Country Club. Uh their their their bi-weekly last meeting was cancelled, so it didn't happen. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Huh. >> So, really kind of nothing further to report on that. 263 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:27.920 >> Okay. That's getting down to the wire, too. >> Mhm. >> Yep. Um >> Yeah. I mean, part of me wonders if they're kind of having second thoughts. >> Oh, I hope not. about things, you know, but 264 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:43.440 >> because I think so the the select board needed the development agreement. We had already sent back um town council's comments from the zoning bylaw language, so we haven't really gotten anything further. >> Yeah. >> Uh maybe the next thing is another joint 265 01:12:43.440 --> 01:13:01.120 meeting to try to push it along. I don't know. Um, but feel free to suggest that if they want to arrange another joint meeting to make sure that this doesn't fall through the cracks. >> Yeah. I mean, the next one ought to be uh next the a week from today. 266 01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:15.440 >> Okay. >> Because they had been doing Thursday mornings. >> Okay. Um, anything else? Anybody else have a No. Okay. CPC is just working through our plan edits. Um, 267 01:13:15.440 --> 01:13:32.080 our next planning board meeting is April 9th, 2026 here at the Lakeville Police Station. Oh, um, and then just the bullet items that was just uh what I had sent back to um, Serpent for the OSRD. Oh, and 268 01:13:32.080 --> 01:13:48.400 there's also in our packet, I guess this is a question about OSRD from John Gregory uh, for next week's event. How does the proposed by coexist with Lakeville's economic development? Um it's no different than any other 269 01:13:48.400 --> 01:14:05.360 subdivision. It just puts aside land for >> Yeah. >> Um open space as opposed to being dispersed throughout the other the residential yards. Um don't these two topics potentially clash? I don't see that as 270 01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:23.199 an issue. Um for example, 30 Holland chapter 61 status first refusal. Didn't the business take this part of site plan to the planning board? Um, no. Not that didn't happen. They didn't bring a site plan to the planning board. It was an 271 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:38.800 ANR. Um, will there be any mechanism to steer new business away from buying and developing Lakeville's remaining open space? Well, that's the caveat is the open space has a permanent conservation restriction on 272 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:55.440 it. in chap article 97. So I don't see that as a I I don't I I think maybe he'd be best to show up and ask some questions for I hope it was John Gregory at the OSRD meeting. >> I don't know. 273 01:14:55.440 --> 01:15:12.520 >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Um that's everything we had in the packet. Anything else? Are we good to adjourn? >> Oh, I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. Second. All in favor? I >> I >> meeting is adjourned.