I'd like to call the flag of the One nation under God, indivisible with all.
>> Thank you very much. >> Miss Eric, would you please take the role? Hinsley >> here. Raff >> here. >> Duckworth >> here. Zimmer >> here. >> Ike >> here. >> Swany >> here. >> Here. >> Thank you so much. Next item on the
agenda is the approval of the minutes. Does anyone have any changes to the June 4th minutes? And if we have no changes, we'll let them stand as written. Thank you so much. Before we move on to announcements, I
just want to say that we have three public hearings tonight. Uh I think the crowd is here for the third one. So, we need to make sure that those people that want to be here for the first two hearings are in the room and able to get in here. You can always
go out into the hall and come back in uh when your hearing is up. Uh announcements. Do we have any announcements tonight, Miss Jensen? >> Uh yes. Thank you, Chair Zimmer. Uh you have two handouts before you. One is an
email from a neighbor regarding the Alhadi Association CUP and the other is revised stipulations for that same item and I will review that during my presentation. >> Thank you so much. Um
the first public hearing uh is to consider the application of Michael Mo for a conditional use permit to allow the maximum combin combined accessory building square footage to exceed 1500 gross square feet in the RS2
single family district. We're going to ask Mr. Mike Mo to come forward to present. Thank you so much. if you'll just uh identify yourself for the record and then talk a little bit about your project. >> Sure. My name is Michael Mo um property
owner at 9446 210th Street West in Lakeville here. Um what we're applying for on our conditional use permit is to add um essentially a third stall to our garage. Um uh right now the current garage will get absorbed into the house
and then build a new threecar garage on the end of the house. um personal use. Uh just looking for it. It's our family home. Grew up there since about 1988. And uh now we're looking to my wife and I are going to move in and we are looking to do a pretty extensive uh
remodel, bring the house up to uh new current standards. Um and then we just like to have that threecar attached garage for parking our vehicles. >> Yeah. >> Excellent. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> And then I believe we have staff to
present. Miss Bun. >> Good evening, chair, commission members. This request is for property located south of 210th Street. Uh it is zoned RS2, which is a single family residential district. The property is
about 2.18 acres in size. The property is uh near other developed lots to the north and the west that are zoned RS3 and then other large lot single family uh to the south and east zoned RS2.
So as mentioned the request in front of you tonight is for a conditional use permit to allow the combined accessory structure square footage to be greater than500 square ft. So, the applicant, as he stated, is taking their existing twocar garage, converting that into
living space, and then adding a third a three stall garage attached to the property. Uh, the total square footage would be increased to 2,952 square ft. The current driveway would provide access to the garage addition,
and the addition would be located over 60 ft from the closest property or the closest home to the west. and it would also be located over 80 feet from the front property line. So that would be exceeding all of our setback requirements. The attached threecar
garage is a typical garage size for an attached um for an attached garage. Uh the applicant has stated that the additional space is for his own personal use and it would not be used for a home occupation. So staff is recommending approval of the
conditional use permit with the four stipulations that are listed in your staff report. Uh we had did hear from one of the surrounding property owners who kind of got notice of both requests that are in front of you. Um and it was more of just like a what's happening? What does this mean? Uh can you explain it to me a little bit? But no concerns
over what was being being proposed. So I'll stand for questions. >> Thank you so much. Uh this is a public hearing and uh anyone that is interested in speaking on
uh this particular issue for the address at 9446 210th Street, please come forward. And seeing no one come forward. Members, >> Madame Chair, I move to close the public hearing. >> Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor of closing the public hearing, please say I. >> I. I. >> I. >> The public hearing is now closed. Commissioners, do we have any questions for the applicant or staff? >> Madam Chair,
>> Commissioner Swinsson, >> this is one of those items that uh we we see fairly routinely. um some of these over I'll say larger square footage accessory use type of pieces and in this case we've got a property owner who's looking to improve the property bring it up to current standards it's kind of a
no-brainer in my book makes it very easy to vote and recommend approval of this one >> any other comments or questions I think we're ready for a motion >> madam chair >> commissioner >> move to recommend a city council
approval of the conditional use permit to allow the maximum combined accessory building square footage to exceed 1,500 gross square feet in the RS2 single family residential district subject to the four stipulations in the planning report dated June 11th 2026 and the findings effect.
>> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Miss Erikson, will you take the role, please? >> Travis, I Duckworth, I >> Zimmer, Ike. >> I Sweeney. Swanson >> I. >> Tinsley >> I.
>> The eyes have it. Your motion prevails. Mr. Mo, thank you so much for coming in and enjoy your uh the full use of your property. Thank you for working with the staff and meeting all of the setback issues. Really appreciate that. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
your item will likely be uh heard before the July 6th uh city council meeting. Thank you. Uh the next item on the agenda is uh 5B. It is a public hearing
to consider the application of Andrew and Heidi Knight for a conditional use permit to allow the maximum combined accessory building square footage to exceed 1500 gross square feet and 15 feet in height in the RS2 single family
residential district. As I understand it, Miss Heidi Knight is here to introduce the project. Thank you so much. we can just identify yourself for the record and then give us a little descriptor. >> Hello, I am Heidi Knight. Um, we have
the conditional use permit for 9475 212 Street. Um, it is the property directly behind Michael Moe's property. um property that I grew up at. And we are asking for addition, excuse me, additional accessory space to be able to
build a um out building to house um our boat and our camper um for personal use and to be able to kind of live back where I grew up. >> Great. Thank you so much. We'll have Miss Bodton again come
forward. Thank you. Thank you. So, this request may look similar like she mentioned. It's just south of the property we were just talking about. Uh the property is once again zoned RS2, which is a single family residential district. Uh this one
is north of 212th Street and then west um is 211. So, just east of the 211 street. So there is developed single family property to the west and to the south and then some larger lot residential to the east and to the
north. Uh the property is three acres in size and it is currently vacant. So the applicant is asking for two conditional use permits here. one to exceed the gross square footage of accessory building space to exceed that 1500
square feet of combined accessory buildings and then also to exceed the 15 foot high maximum that is the requirement for the detached accessory building. And I'm realizing I spelled family wrong up there. So I apologize about that. >> It's not bad.
>> It's a lot different on the big screen right compared to my computer. So, the applicant, as they mentioned, they intend to build a single family home on the property to on the south side of the property that would have access to 212 street. Um, and then that they would have an attached garage that would be
roughly 1,026 ft in size. They are also proposing at this time to build the detached building on the north side of the property that would be about 1,500 square ft in size. So combined, they're looking at a total of 2526 square feet of combined accessory
building space exceeding that 1500 square feet max. So our code does allow that to be exceeded with the conditional use permit. And then the requirement with the 15t uh they do have a camper that is requires a 14 foot tall door. So
with that you need the 16 foot tall sidewalls which automatically puts them over our maximum. So with the pitched roof, they're going to be about 21 feet in height. So exceeding that 15 foot maximum. So the property, as mentioned, is currently undeveloped. Uh it does
slope from the west to the east, dropping about 20 ft. And it is heavily wooded, as you can tell from the aerial photo. So a tree inventory will be required with the development of a new single family home on this property, and that will be done at the time of building permit. Um, the applicant has
stated that the additional garage size is for their own personal use and will not be used for any kind of commercial activity or home business. Uh, access for the new home and for the accessory building will be off 212 Street. So, staff is recommending approval of the U2
request with the six stipulations listed in your packet. I'll stand for questions. >> Thank you so much. Again, this is a public hearing for item 5B at 9475212th Street. And do we have anyone that would
like to speak on this issue? It appears we have no one coming forward. Uh I would take a motion then to close. >> Madam Chair, I'll make a motion to close the public public hearing. >> Thank you, Commissioner Sweeney. >> Second. >> Second from Commissioner Ike. All those
in favor of closing the public hearing, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> The public hearing is now closed. Uh we'll open it up for commissioners to ask questions as need be.
It does seem like a fairly straightforward one. So, >> Madam Chair, I I was going to comment exactly that way that the request for the height is not unusual. We've been seeing that one more and more recently with say folks with larger campers, that type of thing. So, that seems to make
perfect sense on the height requirement. I also like um the layout of the buildings on on the site just given potential for any kind of future options down the road, but not anytime real soon. So, just like how this is all out. So,
>> agreed. Any other comments? Then I think we're ready for a motion. Madam Chair, I'd make a motion to recommend the city council approval of the conditional use permit to allow the maximum combined accessory building
square footage to exceed 1500 gross square feet and 1500 in height in RS2 single family residential district subject to the six stipulations in the planning report dated June 11th, 2026
and the findings of fact. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Uh, Miss Ericson, will you please take the role? >> Duckworth, >> I. >> Zimmer, >> I. >> Ike, >> hi. >> Swainy, >> I. >> Swanson, >> I. >> Tinsley, >> I. >> Trafice,
>> I. >> And again, the eyes have it. Thank you so much for coming uh to visit with us. And um, Miss Knight, appreciate the efforts that you made and nice that it's tucked into the woods and all those good things Commissioner Swenson had
mentioned as well. This item will come before the city council at their uh July 6th meeting is my understanding. Thank you so much again. We appreciate you being here. >> Okay. The next item on the agenda is
item 5C, the All Hadti Association. a public hearing to consider the application of Alhadi Association for a conditional use permit to allow a religious institution use in the RS2
single family residential district and to exceed 125% of the minimum parking stalls required by the zoning ordinance. We'd like to first invite up uh Muhammad Shabaz to introduce the project. Please,
if you could identify yourself for the record. Good evening chair and commissioners. My name is Mohammad Shabbaz and I am the resident at 20515 Geyser Court Lakeville 55044. First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak today. I am
here representing Alhadi Association as an applicant for this CUP application. We respectfully request your approval to build a mosque for Alhadi Association at 1773 to Junel Path Lakeville. We have worked closely with Lakeville city staff
to ensure that this project meets all city requirement including site planning, traffic management, parking, landscaping, grading plan, utility plan and all considering all environmental consideration. Our goal is to ensure the
safety and well-being of both the neighborhood and the wider community. We believe this project will contribute positively to the diversity of the Lakeill community. Thank you for your time and consideration. >> Thank you so much.
Um we'll have staff present and then uh address questions after that. >> Miss Jensen, thank you so much. >> Good evening, commissioners. Uh this is a public hearing for a conditional use permit for the Alhadi Association. As we've said, uh the property is located
at 17732 Junell Path. It is zoned RS2, which is a single family residential district. Uh our residential districts do allow religious institution uses by conditional use permit. Uh the action requested is for uh the
construction of a religious institution and to exceed 125% of the maximum parking spaces as allowed by the zoning ordinance. Um to put those in numbers the the structure requires 39 spaces. Uh
125% of that would be 49 spaces. They are proposing 59 for the site. Uh the structure is uh just over 3600 square foot mosque. Uh the building uh is required to have 30 foot setbacks on
all sides. Um it does exceed that. The setbacks for the building are at least 100 uh feet from each property line. As I noted, the parking lot uh does have space for 59 vehicles. And with the construction of the site, it would
separate the access from the existing driveway that serves the property owner to the north uh from the access to the parking area there. Um the eastern portion just over half of the site is proposed to remain uh
undeveloped uh left alone as is. There is a lot of topography there as you can probably tell from the elevation lines on the drawing. Uh this hatched area is more of a um heavily wooded area, steeper slopes
that um is primarily going to be untouched. Uh the site obviously does include a storm water uh basin and a rain garden to address storm water ponding requirements. Uh it will be a private pond, meaning it only takes runoff from the site. It does not take
runoff from any public streets. So it will be privately owned and maintained. And as part of the approval, we would the city would enter into a maintenance agreement um with the association to uh outline those maintenance requirements.
Uh as for the tree preservation, the site is subject to our new tree tree preservation plan that was adopted last August. Uh it is based on what the the zoning district is. So in this case, it's a residential district. So it allows a 40% removal threshold. It
should be noted that the tree inventory was done for the area of development. So essentially this kind of jagged line right here is roughly they inventoried everything west of that. everything kind of east of there was just because it was
not going to be developed. We agreed that there was not the inventory needed there. Uh those trees would remain. Um so the 57.7% proposed removal is based off of those trees that are on that west portion of the site. Uh the replacement is
required. uh the the numbers have been reviewed and approved by forestry staff and the proposed landscaping for the site does meet those uh replacement requirements if we weren't taking into account that uh east portion of the site. The focus on the landscape plan
has been um screening. There is arborites along this parking area and then up in here and some along in here as well. Um there's some additional uh arbor vites planted in this area. They
were not added further uh in this area due to the number of oak trees in that area. The city forester was concerned that trying to plant additional trees in there uh would damage the roots of those trees and then anything planted would
have a hard time surviving because of the extensive tree canopy. So that is why there is not um additional plantings within there and they are kind of pushed up to the edge of the property in this space.
Uh the building does have 70% exterior of brick and glass which does meet our requirements for architectural standards. Uh stucco and architectural panels are the remainder of the building. The overall height is about 32 feet which is less than the 35 foot
maximum for the residential districts. Uh the minouret is uh about 38 feet tall I believe but it is exempt from height maximums um because we do we do exempt um religious elements that are a part of
the building from that height requirement. So they are in compliance with our ordinance in that case. Um and site lighting. The the the plan is for building lighting uh to be used for the site as you can see in kind of a
downcast manner. They are not proposing any parking lot lighting at this time. So as I noted earlier, there was a uh an amendment to the stipulations. Uh there was a notation in the report that there
needed to be a security submitted uh with the approvals for the to guarantee the removal of the farmhouse and the the barn, the proper ceiling of the well, etc. Um however, I forgot to include that one in the stipulation. So that is
the amendment. It is the adding of the stipulation and then I carried over the required dollar amount from the engineering report. So staff does recommend approval of this cup for the Alhhati Association subject to the seven stipulations listed in the planning
staff report as amended and the adoption of the findings of fact and I'll stand for any questions you may have. >> Thank you so much. Uh this is a public hearing and we will um open up the public hearing. I would ask since we have so many people
here that um we everyone is limited to two and a half to three minutes and that you not repeat what someone else has said before you um so that we can move through this. We still have additional business after this hearing. So um at
this point I would open it up for um public hearing. Please come forward and then state your name and address. Um good evening uh dear chair and commissioners. My name is Najes Kamill. I am a IT and business student and
living in uh 18370 Glidden Lane Lake. Uh men is a social animal they say and I completely endorse this statement through the perspective of human psychology regarding how certain environments trigger or calm certain
human behaviors. Life is full of uncertaintity and we all go through so many ups and downs in our daily lives. By looking at someone's face by meeting in our daily life, we cannot see what is actually going on inside them. When going through a rough patch in life, uh
just being surrounded by family is not enough. We need as a social animal, we need more people like neighbors, friends, relatives, and a community center to mentally and emotionally help us and support us. A research from
Harvard public health indicates that meeting and praying together with your fellow brothers and sisters and meeting them occasionally actually help reducing your stress, anxiety and your negative energy. This actually builds uh personal attachment and belonging just not only
with the people and the center because at the end we are all growing together. I know this because I lived it. Um while living in Lakequil uh during my struggling phase um I found my peace and strength at Alhadi. I connected I
actually connected with Alhadi in so many ways. um the personal connection and belonging which I made with it that will always stay with me and because of that now I'm always ready to pay back the same strength support and positive
energy by volunteering to any welfare work in any way possible I'm getting the chance with so this is the profound difference uh um religious uh community center like Alhadi Mas can make in the lives of people individuals and families
in our community. Um in conclusion, I just want to say the places of worship and community gathering like Alhadi mosque uh help foster the sense of belonging. They will encourage us to service others and help others and
support them and it will bring the peace and harmony which we all need as individuals and as a society as a whole. So I will support I am supporting Alhadi Mask with all my heart. Thank you so much for your time and consideration. Thank you. >> Thank you so much.
Do we have an someone else? If you could identify yourself for the record, please, and keep your comments to two minutes or less, that'd be great. >> Uh, good evening. Good evening, respected chair, commissioners, and fellow residents. My name is Zad Aim. I have been a resident of 18107 class 1
lane since 2016. I'm also working with US Bank and their technology department as a leader in IT since 2012. Uh today I'm here to express my support for the proposed Alhadi mosque project. A mosque is much more
than a place of worship. It is a community center where families gather, children learn values of respect and responsibility, neighbors connect, and people come together to serve others. Lakeville is a city that has grown stronger because it welcomes people from
different backgrounds who share the same goals. Raising families, contributing to the local economy, volunteering, and building a safe and vibrant community. The families supporting Alhadi mosque are already your neighbors, co-workers,
business owners, healthcare workers, engineers, teachers, and taxpayers. We are invested in the success of the city because this is our home. My family has called this community home for many years and like so many others, we chose
Lakeville because of its strong values, excellent schools, safe neighborhoods, and sense of belonging. We want our children and grandchildren to grow up learning the values of service, respect, compassion, and civic engagement right
here in the community we love. The proposed mosque will provide a prominent space for community programs, youth activities, educational initiatives, charitable efforts, and community service and the freedom and interfaith
engagement. It will create opportunities for people of different faiths and backgrounds to meet, learn from one another, and build lasting relationships. Supporting this project is not just about approving a building. It is about affirming the values that
make Lakeville special. Respect, inclusion, community service, and the freedom for people to practice their faith while contributing positively to society. I respectfully ask the chair and the commissioners and residents to
view this project through the lens of community benefit and shared values. Alhadi mosque will not only serve its congregation. It will strengthen the social fabric of Lakeville and be of and source of service, understanding and
goodill for you years to come. Together we have an opportunity to build more than a mosque. We have an opportunity to build stronger connections, greater understanding, and an even more welcoming Lakewell for future generations. Thank you for your time and
consideration. >> Thank you so much. Do we have a third speaker? >> Hi, my name is Jennifer Theer. I live at 16965 Kenmore Drive in Lakeville. A successful, sustainable city is likely the goal of everyone here today. A key
contributor to successful communities is religion, whose effects have long been studied. The Pew Research Center reveals that we might what we might already know. Religion plays a vital role in successful communities. Religion brings meaning and purpose to people's lives,
provides solace in times of grief, provides social support and moral guidance. In addition, people who are active in religious congregations tend to be happier and more civically engaged than those unaffiliated with religion. Todd Christopherson states, quote,
"Religion endows both individuals and communities with the virtues that sustain an enduring society. Integrity, responsibility and accountability, compassion, marriage and fidelity in marriage, respect for others and the property of others, service and all the
necessity and dignity of work and many others. Al-Hadi is part of this great religious tradition that improves and sustains our community. Our Muslim neighbors embody, seek to embody and teach their children these values. My association with association with
Alhadi, my Alhadi friends has been a joy and has enriched my life. In March, my church congregation and I were privileged to join Alhadi for an ifar, an evening meal to to break the fast during Ramadan. Working with Massud and Simma and their team and team to plan
for the event was a joy. But the event itself was much better. As we prayed together, shared food and conversations, stories we learned from one another, friendships began, respect and trust grew. The joy in that room of 200 Christians
and Muslims eating together was palpable. One one example of our shared conviction of fasting and its benefits was something that we all enjoyed talking about which surprised me because oh what surprised me most about our shared event
was the amount of positive feedback we received from our congregation. I learned just how much people want to connect with others of different faiths. In our world where media and politics want to divide us and demonize us, demonize those who are different from us. What people really want and need is
to find connection and commonality with others and opportunities to do so. I look forward to a future opportunity of being together again as congregations and hopefully in Alhadi's new mosque. It's America's It's America's 250th
birthday this year and we celebrate the ideals laid out in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. freedom of religion, speech, assembly, petition. I am grateful for these rights and to
exercise them today and speak in support of the new mosque for Alhadi and for Lakeville. An America 250 initiative called Our American Story is a storytelling project that collects and preserves our nation's unique stories from Americans from every
corner of our nation and every background. And in Lakeville, stories that need to be shared and preserved. The Alhadi mosque is a story that is unfolding right now. A story that our mus that our Muslim neighbors can't wait to tell and I can't wait to tell and
that Lakeville will be proud to tell. >> Thank you very much. >> We have another person. >> Can you identify yourself for the record, please, and your address and then keep yourself to uh two minutes or so. >> Good evening, respected chairs and
commissioners. My name is Omar Asmani and I live at 17964 Havana Path Lakeville. Years ago, my family and I moved from New Jersey where we had a vibrant mosque, a place where faith and community intertwined. I still remember walking in and seeing people of all ages gathered there
together, families connecting and older students guiding younger ones. It was more than a a building. It was a foundation for belonging, friendship, and growth. It wasn't just a place people went to. It was where people connected, built relationships, and felt like they truly belong to something
bigger than themselves. I always thought, how great would it be if something like that existed in our city? As a student today, I see how easy it is for young people to drift through their free time without purpose or direction. That's why a consistent gathering place, a space for learning, mentorship, and
connection can be so valuable. To me, a place like that is more than just a building. It's where people feel like they belong, connect with others, and where a community truly comes together. Giving kids like me a chance to show up, be involved, and benefit. Today, my dream is finally becoming a reality. I
respectfully ask for your approval of a Hadi masjid. Thank you for giving our community the opportunity to build something that will positively impact generations for come. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Looks like we have another person. Could you again please identify yourself and
your address and then keep your comments to two minutes or less? >> Sure. Good evening chair and commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Simma Shafi. I am a resident at 20538 Hartford Way, Lakeville since 2013.
Professionally I am head of artificial intelligence at US Bank. But today, I am here before you as a mother, as a neighbor, and a community member who deeply cares about building stronger communities that are diverse, authentic,
and connected. 20 years ago, when we moved together and chose this country as our home, you all and the amazing people in this country graciously welcomed us and you gave us an opportunity to grow in our careers.
You empowered us to learn and utilize our talents and skills and you allowed us the privilege of raising our family and our children in a safe diverse environment. Alhadi is our opportunity to give back by allowing us to welcome
you in the place where we can control how much we want to serve you and want to educate you and bring you and host you and connect with all the people around us who have been giving us for years. We think Alhadi will give us an opportunity to educate and connect at a level that we have not been able to do
if we were doing it independently as families. It will be a forum as it has been in educating people around us, eating together, building relationships, allowing our youth to study together, play together. And I truly believe that our youth, the next generation of Muslim
Americans really need to be a part of your position to thrive city mission. We need them to be a part of the serving community. And what you will see is our efforts on educating and instilling in our families, in our communities, the
core values that we keep very close to our heart. Integrity, service, and empathy as well as the importance of hard work that brought us here and we have been privileged to work.
To close, I will remind that these people are as equally invested in raising the community around us for the higher standards. From becoming accomplished professional stakeholders to dedicated citizens of the city, we
really want this opportunity to give back to the amazing people of this great country. Thank you for your time and everything that you do. We request you to please approve the CUP for Alhadi. Thanks. Thank you very much.
We have another speaker. >> Sure, why not? >> Hi there. Uh my name is >> I'm sorry. Is that >> Are >> we going through the whole room or >> uh I don't believe we're going through the whole room. I certainly hope not. >> I didn't take a number. I couldn't find
them. >> Hi, my name is Peter Minkhouse. Um been a resident from Lakeville since 98. I currently reside at 16555 Forbes Avenue West. Um, since the winter, um, there's been some
misconceptions about, um, certain, uh, immigrants within the United States and, especially here in Minnesota. And a group of friends and I decided we wanted to take our time to stand in solidarity with our, uh, Muslim neighbors.
We've been standing outside of the Lakeville Mosque off of 215 since November every winter, every Friday morning, uh greeting them as they come in and greeting uh wishing them a happy day as they leave. And um we have gotten
to know them very well. They have welcomed us into their mosque. We've had FAR dinners with them and uh we've um stood outside on um Edidman Barak days, special days especially um it was Has
Arena a few Wednesdays ago. Uh it was neat to see uh thousands of these Muslim uh um residents come to to worship and I just wanted to come and uh provide my support for them too and say that uh
we've we have so much more in common uh than uh people understand if they would just do the time take the time to get to know them and understand them. uh they would understand that they're just like we are. So um if you could provide this
access for them to have this mosque, it would be very very nice. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. >> Sir, did you want to come up next? That would be great. Please identify yourself for the record and your address and then keep yourself to two minutes if you
could please. >> My name is Dean Johnson. I live at 17688 Janelle Path um in the uh senior apartment complex which just is adjacent to the proposed um mosque and um we
represent a group of 76 um residents at our building and we have concerns um in regards to this to the complex not so much it's nothing to do with the religion I I'm hearing now is everybody talking
about, you know, getting along and all this. I'm here to focus on what's being built. Nothing to do with this the religion. We're concerned, highly concerned about um increased vehicle and pedestrian traffic and the noise and
light pollution. I heard earlier from somebody from the city said that, you know, there's going to be no parking lights in the the parking lots. I don't believe that's ADA compliant. We haven't I haven't we got notified after the very you know the first
meeting happened and I just recently found we recently just found out about it. We never told I understand that because the property is owned by CDA the county that they probably maybe notified just there but none of the residents had any idea. I've talked to property
management with CDA. They had no idea. So, we haven't had chance to speak with the director from CDA yet to find out what their position is going to be on it. Um, we're um we're looking also is that you know some of the plans. We have an architect engineer in our building
who's retired and we looked at some of this here and um um they talked about the city would have to be entering into a contract relationship in regards to the the ponding area and um if they if
they do what they have done, we have a rain garden in our facility and it hasn't been taken care of for nine years. has got trees that are 30 and 40 feet tall in it. And I've been to the city and they said that they sent out a letter and still nothing has been done.
So if that gets managed as well as ours is getting managed, that system isn't going to work and it's I believe you rode by it once and seen the pond. I it's it's not not functional. Doesn't work. So they got somebody trying to fix the water system
over there because they backed up. um and I guess from the first meeting I understand that an estimate of 118 members and which is going to be and it's going to be a lot more of the traffic and so
we're requesting that a complete uh traffic count uh request a traffic study be completed by the civil engineer and that you know like a u count road tubes be placed in some three separate areas on Janelle path because it's a
deadend road and we'd like to get find one before our driveway entrance to our building that goes into um the um Argon Village shopping mall and then the one after that before it goes to the entrance to
the back side of the shopping mall that goes through Cub Foods and then one after that that services the where the homes are in the top of the hill the twin homes the reason being for that is that we've I've been there for nine years. And the
reason being we've got the traffic turns off at 175th, takes the back side of Cub Foods to get on to Kendrick Avenue so they can pass past the traffic lights. And so we've gotten a lot of traffic there. And then we got a lot of traffic where they think it's a through street
because the city put the dead end sign already at the dead end. So they just recently moved it here two weeks ago. Put it further down. I say you got the sign at the dead end so they don't see it till they get down there. So that's been moved. Now the city's also put up
signs on both sides of Janelle path that there's going to be no parking on the street on either side of the street with any type of religious center. You everybody's interested in growth to grow your congregation to get bigger.
Now, that is intent. Just me looking in the room, they have a fairly large congregation of people and you got 59 parking spots. So, as you grow, where are these additional parking spots? There is no room for additional parking spots. You can't park on the street. You
can't park at the shopping center because when they done street sweeping on our for our our complex and our driveways and they don't want us parked over there. So, we get special permission from the city during those times to be able to park on the road and no parking there. The reason the
increased traffic count there's we have a lot of disabled and uh individuals in our building and um and they're of course elderly and using walkers or electric carts and their big
shopping experience is going over to the mall you know for Cub Foods or Culver's Walgreens and Cub are probably the two biggest and the dollar store for the ladies But um so
a lot of things that you know I haven't got the study because this we didn't know about it. I I went down and got uh the storm water pollution prevention plan and I noticed in in the plan it said that um there's no title
information was provided for this survey. This survey does not purport to show all easements of record. So, I don't know how the planning commission can approve anything when these things aren't in or it's incomplete. Plus, the property owner that's adjacent
to them that has the house on top of the hill has a he has there is an easement there. And there's six types of easements on property. There's a couple of easements if that's the same easement that he has
what you call a box in that I learned from my friend who's the engineer said this wouldn't work then on that side where that easement for that road going up there that road you're seeing on the map it goes up that's an easement road
so but there's no purport no nothing on it so we don't know even know what it consists Um, Mr. Johnson, we will be sure staff is taking notes to address those questions. >> Let's go over and see that.
>> But um, so some of the drainage and then we're looking at I I was looking at one of the sheets where um, Audi's group said that this project it was going to cost $1.8 million.
Well, our engineers said this before they even put a shovel into this thing, it's going to cost a million dollars plus. And at the end of the project, this is going to be a three or4 million project.
And um and I I don't know if there's the project if if bonds have already you know if they have already been told about if there is there bonds to this you know like the trees isn't there a $100,000 bond required for the trees.
>> We will ask staff will address the concerns and questions or >> um so what we're asking for because we're going to need time because we're we're going to be consulting with other agencies. the watershed district when we contacted them they had no knowledge of this. We gave them the partial and they
said we haven't had any involvement in it. So the city of the city has a right to approve it if it doesn't so if it meets a certain criteria and apparently this does and then the met council we're going to do some things uh check with them on some issues
but again I just want to stress to the people here it's not about it's not about your religion or the mosque. It's It's we just feel that it's in the wrong spot. It's in a dead end street
and the increase of traffic. We have already there is no crosswalks for the people that walk across with their walkers and they don't move too quickly. We got semi-truckss coming in the back and and um um we think it's important that before anything gets done that we
get another traffic count on this so we can say this road is only so many blocks long and this is how much traffic it's getting. It's very heavy. Thank you for your time. >> Excellent. Thank you so much. And I'm sure that staff took some notes so we
can try to address those concerns. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. We have another speaker and if you could identify yourself for the record please and try to limit yourself to new items that haven't been addressed and two minutes.
>> Great. My name is Leslie Madison. I live in the Argon Fields Town Homes. I'm on the board and uh and I'm speaking on behalf of our residents tonight. Um where I can appreciate um that Alhadi is providing a really lovely religious
experience for all these people. Um, I am not in support of uh the their new home being located uh just to the west of mine. And the reasons for that are what Dean uh talked about already. Uh in
addition to that, I uh I think that we have to to look at the amount of traffic that the that the new facility would bring. So it will change what I call our community as a micro community because
it's we have just the apartment building and then we have just the town homes and then of course in front of us we have Cub Foods and then that parking that uh shopping area. So there's there's traffic like Dean talked about coming in and out of there already. It it is a fairly narrow road where if you have two
cars you won't be able to bypass. So, if we have I don't know how many cars 118 members would be, but maybe 30, right? Um, however, they have parking places that go up to 59. And by Lakefield standards,
I think that's three people per parking spot is I believe what I read. So, that would be about 177 people if they were at their capacity. and that um having having even 59 cars come in and out of that space will create some traffic
congestion. So in addition to that um I think in the previous um informal meeting they um audi had uh representatives had talked about the frequency that people would be coming and going from the from the new
facility and that um they had at that time I believe if I'm incorrect correct me but I believe they just said they would have daily prayer of like five or six people maybe like once a day and then they uh said on Fridays they would
have their normal services. So two services I believe. However, when you look at um the their calendar of events from their website, from Facebook, it's really quite different. And that um that the
frequency had they have weekly programs that occur every Sunday, every Thursday and every Friday. So um those weekly programs are at varying times. Um, some of them start at 1:30 and go to like three or so. Um, I
actually have a calendar that I could give to you guys if you're interested. Um, and then they also have, uh, um, you know, and they had mentioned this, but they have, uh, events that happen throughout the year at different times.
So, um, so so far, uh, they've had they had four additional events in March, they've had two additional events in May, and that, um, some of those events went from 8:00 p.m. to 11:30 p.m. So, my
property is the one that you can actually see on one of your maps. We're right on the end, and so the um, the back of my property faces theirs directly. So if we have cars coming in and out of there at 11:30 at night, it's disruptive.
And so the th and those parking places would some of those parking places would be facing my property directly. So I I do feel like that there's not a full representation of how much activity they have. Um they've had
several events on Saturdays where they um have like uh I don't know like a a clothing sale and um certainly things that are important to them. And I don't mean to dismiss that in any way. I'm just trying
to show that this facility is going to be much more active than has been proposed. So I guess that's my biggest point. They do actually have um prayer times that begin at 3:40 in the morning. Uh, so it's 3:40, 1:30 in the afternoon, 5:30,
9:13 p.m., and 11 pm. So I have a question on whether or not that building will be open for all of those and available to people to come in to pray. And so, and if they are, then that's a very long day. That's a much longer day than even a business. So, um, if this
was a business, I would be having the same conversation with you. If it was an ice cream shop, which I love, I would not want it to go there. So um so it's kind of the idea that it changes our community um in a very dramatic way
because there will be a lot more traffic that and with traffic and with people come noise. Um I I do know that the lights they had proposed would only be at the entrance and exit doors. However, the drawing showed lights along the entire um sophet of both sides of that
building. So I don't know which one is accurate. Um but that's a lot of light. So um uh and even with trees in between us um if there are if there were only those lights at there would be one internet and and exit on the east side
and one on the or no two I think maybe on the west side and one in the front. So if those were those lights that are at a 90 degree angle and go straight down it would be like a house light right and that seems reasonable to me but the drawing showed something quite different that was put up earlier by a
representative. So, um, so the the increase in population to that is a big deal. I also question whether or not when we talk about it overloading or not overloading the infrastruct infrastructure, I don't know how you
could say it couldn't because this is a single family home that was on a well and septic. They used no facilities, right? So now those have to be capped and then they will access all public utilities and you know sewer and all that kind of stuff. So now we're going
to have a hundred potentially at their highest level 177 people using those facilities where nothing was going into that infrastructure before. So that's that's a very different demand and that's and when we talk about the moratorum which I realize this is not a
reasonzoning thing but when we talk about our infrastructure being overloaded a bit this one facility will go from zero to 177 people at their highest point. So uh so I have concerns about that as well. the parking lot
itself um if you look at the property right now it's grass and shrubbery and right so when it rains when there's water runoff that gets absorbed if you put a parking lot in there all that water has to go somewhere so that's going directly into the sewer so so
again we talk about infrastructure that's an infrastructure issue okay as I see it at least um I when I look at the construction requirements and the uh
um the appearance of the building. I get that mo that 70% I think is what somebody said um is brick and uh neutral color and that that's all that's required, but it doesn't really fit into
the, you know, the neighboring look. And that is something that is noted um on one of your uh planning reports I believe and as well on the CUP application that it should be a you know look as if it blends into the neighborhood. So in fact when our town
homes were built it was required that our town homes look like the regular surrounding homes in that area. So um so uh the height of it I get is pretty normal. um probably fairly average for
maybe like a residential home, but you have the front of that which has a very different appearance and you have a very tall uh you know adornment. Sorry, I don't know what that's called. Um that is that can has no limit as to how tall that can be. So that doesn't really fit into the neighborhood if I look at it
from that perspective. Um I also think that there are some wildlife and environmental issues when we when we talk about this property. So there's a lot of wildlife back there. I'm not really it's not a protected, you know, habitat, but there's a lot of wildlife
that that, you know, live back there that come through that space. And so, um, I don't know if anybody has assess that or if that's of any consequence, but it but it is kind of a consequence. The environmental piece, if we look at that house, it's over a hundred years old and that it's going to have
asbestous, it's going to have lead. So when that house gets uh de you know constructed or whatever taken down then then that process looks very different than somebody just coming in to knock it down. It has to be done in a very very
specific way. So that's more expensive of course but um that's not really my problem. But but my problem is that when you take down a structure that has those types of elements to it um the requirement is quite different to
protect all of us because that will all be airborne. So it has to be it has to be taken down a certain way. It has to be disposed of a certain way. Right? So environmentally it's an issue if if that's not been addressed. And when I look through all of the documents that we have, sorry,
really quick. Um, when I look at all of the documents that that you guys have put publicly, there's no mention of that. So, I would like that somebody take a look at that. So, um, I guess in closing, I just I I appreciate you
hearing me. Um, I appreciate that you guys are taking us into consideration. I appreciate the Alhhati family and what they want. Uh but I just feel like it's not the right spot uh because of the disruption that it would cause in our
micro community. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> All right, that was our eighth person. Do we have more? >> A couple more. >> Hello, uh committee. Uh thank you for taking the time. Good evening. My name
is Jay Perski. I live at 98171st Street West in Lakeville. Been a Lakeville resident since 1990. Um I'm a local pastor and director of Serene Ministries. I've worked for 15 years to build understanding and relationships
between Christians and Muslims in our community, state, uh the nation, and internationally. I'm here tonight to support Alhadi Mosque to build on the property they've purchased and to establish a permanent place of worship for their congregation. I believe Lakeville is will be stronger when
people of different traditions are able to practice their faith openly and peacefully. Places of worship are more than buildings. These are places where families gather, childrens are taught values, neighbors support one another, and people serve their communities. The
families who will worship here uh are our neighbors. They are doctors, uh business owners, personnel. They attend our schools. They contribute to the life of our city. They deserve the same opportunity that Christians, Mormons, Hindus, and other faith communities have
to gather and worship in a place they call home. For more than a decade, I've spent thousands of hours building relationships with Muslims across Minnesota and the nation. I found them to be caring parents, great neighbors, and people who want the best for their
families, communities, just as we all do. I've learned that their fear uh that that fear often grows where relationships are absent, but understanding grows when neighbors get to know one another. I know their space will be used for all of us in Lakeville.
And so, I respectfully encourage the council to approve the application. Uh thank you for your time and service. And I do have a comment about the the parking issue. I've been to most of the mosques in the Twin Cities and many of them are in small neighborhoods and you know they have their Friday services
like our Sunday services Christian and uh they're very quiet and the neighborhoods uh they they've been good neighbors and they haven't had a lot of issues with their neighbors the uh you know because I've spoke to a lot of people and like I say I've been to
probably you know we have probably 150 mosques in the Twin Cities. there been a lot of them. So, but uh so I don't think it'll be an issue for that. Um but uh and so thank you for the time. So, >> thank you very much.
>> We have three people coming. Let's uh have one at a time, please. And we're coming up on 7 o'clock. So, make sure that what you're bringing forward is something new. Thank you. Please identify yourself for the record and you give us your >> Good evening, respected commissioners.
My name is Masoud Ahmed and uh I'm a resident of 20538 Hartford Bay, Lakeville, Minnesota. And before I go, I actually want to ask a question. Uh I'm part of the Alhadi U group and there are certain concerns that I have heard from our respected
neighbors and I do want to address and um clarify some of the things that were mentioned >> and we will address those. That's really Yeah. Should we do that later? >> We will address those once the public hearing is closed. >> Okay. All right. That's really the question that I want to uh other than
that I don't have any other comments. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Greetings respected chair and commissioners. My name is Amnes and I'm a resident in 20576 Gunnison Drive, Lakeville. I recently graduated from Lakeville South High School and I'll be attending the University of Minnesota
next year. I've been with Alhadi ever since it started. I've seen it grow from something very small into a real community. Before Alhadi even came to be, I would hear a lot of my peers talk about church on Sundays, Bible studies, youth groups, and all these things they got to do with their religious
communities. I could feel the lack of that in my own life. Then Alhadi came to be. It started small, but even the once a month potlucks and regular Friday prayers meant something. They gave people a place to connect and gave kids like me a community that understood us.
When you're growing up, having people around you who share values and experiences matters. It helps you stay connected to who you are. I also think it's important to understand that Alhadi doesn't just benefit Muslims. Even as a small community, Alhadi has already done
so much. Its members have put together care packages for people in need, created volunteer opportunities, hosted events that welcomed everyone, not just Muslims, and created a community where people can rely on and support one another and others. I've also seen
Alhadi partner with church groups and bring different communities together to learn from each other and celebrate both our similarities and our differences. That's why I hope Ahabi gets the opportunity to continue growing. If it has already been able to do all of this while still being a small community,
imagine what more it could do in the future. To me, this isn't just about a mosque. It's about a community. It's about giving kids a support system, giving Muslims, giving families a place to belong, and giving an organization that already serves the people of
Lakeville the chance to do even more. Thank you for your time, and I urge you to approve the Alhabi Cup. Thank you so much. All right, next up, this is number 12. So, you're all keeping track. Thank you.
>> Good evening. Uh my name is Mun Ahmed and my address is 16097 Canard Court, Lakeville. Um I was here for the last uh mosque approval. I'm director at Lakeville Masjid. Um and uh the only reason why I'm here is that uh Muslim
American Society supports this project and please consider approving this project. >> Thank you. Uh next up again identify yourself for the record. Please try to bring new material uh forward and try to keep yourself to two minutes.
>> Sure. Uh my name is Sam. I reside at 20519 Hartford Way and um thank you for giving me this opportunity. I'm here um in support of Alhadi Cup uh approval. Uh many people said you know contribution to the city and whatnot. I'll
shamelessly say that I have adopted a park here, Cedar Crossing Park. Um so we do actually contribute to the city as well. Uh the other thing is it's very nice to see the past, the present and the future of the Lakeville under one
roof. How often does that happen? And what I want to focus on is on the future of Lakeville, which is the youth here. And many of these kids who spoke or who didn't get an opportunity to speak, they actually were born and raised here. So their values are basically American
values. and u many of them have physically and emotionally contributed to this mosque. They have done fundraisers. My kids actually contributed their pocket money without me asking him. So that that has happened as well. So it's very important. And the other point that I'm going to raise here
is that like somebody else said that uh you know freedom of religion and to be able to practice it freely as well. It's one of the values um American values enshrined in our constitutions and everything. And this youth knows that right and ever since they were like four
or five years old they have been trying to get this project uh started get implemented and it's not very often you get an opportunity to build something ground up you know often times you'll buy a you know building for a mosque or a church and that is perfectly fine but but this gives this youth an opportunity
to bring something to construct something right in front of their eyes and that helps them you know attach to this city and you know create a bonding and hopefully something that they can use and maybe even their kids can use in the future as well and this board I
don't know whether you know about this they spent tremendous amount of time looking for places in lake will believe if you can believe me so it's not like okay the very first thing that we found we bought it or the so we have looked for that and everything >> can you hold on one moment
>> we need someone to fix the lights >> yep so I was just I was just saying that this this is a unique um opportunity for the youth to actually see how to build something ground up that is not just something for their personal use. It is probably for generations to come. Last
but not the least, you know, um some of our um respected neighbor, I empathize with all the concerns that they have. However, to the best of my knowledge, the board and others and the city as well, they have looked at all the legal statutes that the city and the state and
the county demands. So I just request you to hold us accountable for the same standards that you would typically hold anybody else for and you know hopefully you keep it um objective. Uh uh so thank you for this opportunity and I request you to sort of kindly approve this UP4
Alhadi. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. That is our job treating everybody and all the projects within the ordinances that we have. Uh do we have any others to speak at the public hearing? Numbers 14 and 15.
>> Okay. Again, identify yourself. >> My name is Shahid Aiz. I do not live in the city of Lakeville, but I work here. So, I spend most part of my day at Postconsumer Brands here at 20802 Kensington Boulevard. Um, I just want to
state two things. uh the community uh that I belong to, the people who are sitting behind, they are committed to being responsible and respectful of their neighbors.
So those are the values that we want to bring forward. the uh the the building the structure it will provide a safe safe space for families for youth for a bunch of
programs that people have already talked about. So I just want to um um thank you for this kind consideration that you have presented uh to us to make a case
for ourselves and I really appreciate your time. Thank you. >> Thank you. Again, identify yourself and try to limit yourself to two minutes and provide us with new uh concepts and new ideas that you're addressing. >> Good evening, respected chair and
commissioners. My name is Annab Ahmed. I live at 7683 207 Street West Lakeville. I am 14 years old and have been attending Alhadi Mazjid for the past six years. Alhadi Mazjid is not just a place of prayer for Muslims. It is a welcoming community
that values and encourages a participation from all backgrounds. For us, Alhadi has become much more than a place where we go just to pray. It is where we learn about our faith, build friendships, and gained values that guide us in our daily lives. Growing up, I have spent many hours attending youth
classes, community events, and volunteer activities. I like to believe these experience have helped shape the person I am today. What makes them so meaningful though is not only the events themselves, but also the supportive people who make Alhadi feel like a second home. A larger mazjid would
create more opportunities for youth and families to come together, learn, and build long-lasting friendships that help our understanding and strengthen relationships among people of different faiths and backgrounds. Alhahadi Mazjid plays an important role in shaping the next generation. Supporting its growth
means supporting our youth, families, and building a more connected and welcoming community for everyone. I respectfully request to approve the Alhadi Mazjid project. Thank you for your time and consideration. >> Thank you very much. Very succinct.
Another speaker, please come forward. Sir, >> identify yourself for the record as stated before. >> I'm uh Colon Fowler. I live on the end of that gravel road easement that's up here that's uh that we've talked so much
about 17700 Janelle Path. Uh first off, I really appreciate the fact that we've had a council member come out to the site and talk to us in the neighborhood and actually see um what's going on in the neighborhood and what the development may or may not entail. I really appreciate that. Um, it's never
happened in my recollection when we had the town home development, when we had the senior CDA building development, nor the nor the um Cub Foods development, which I've lived through all of those and I've been here longer than anybody else. Um, also from all the members from
the Alhad Association, every single person I've met from that group has been polite, respectful, and there's no doubt that they're very passionate about their faith. A couple of items I'd like to just briefly address that haven't been talked about. hopefully because I don't want to repeat people is uh the
utilities and such and it's been my belief that the city for years has always talked about a comprehensive plan instead of developing one thing and one item at a time. They developed the town homes with one property left everybody else alone. Now they're developing another property and leaving the other
properties alone. I will be landlocked without access to city sewer, water, gas, and uh we need to, you know, kind of decide on the power because we have aerial connection for my current driveway to the corner of our property. Now, I've talked to Muhammad about that today. Um he follows up and it's great
and we'll work on that. Um we'll work on some kind of a public easement or utility easement possibly. And I don't want to bore all the group here with those issues. We'll talk with Al Hadid directly and Chris Jensen as well who I've spoken to in the past. But uh there's other things here involved instead of lights and traffic. There
should be a comprehensive plan that I would think that the city would want to validate to develop it all together instead of doing property by property. U but but again the Aladid people, everyone I've met there has been fantastic and I just want to point that out. They've been very very polite and
respectful since day one. So thank you. >> Thank you so much for your time. Appreciate that. Another person number 17, please present uh please give us your name and address. Try to keep yourself
to new items and uh two minutes. >> Sure. Good evening, respected chair and commissioners. My name is Nasir Ahmed. I'm resident at 18370 Gladen Lane in Lakeville since 2020. So by profession I'm a computer hardware engineer and I
run an IT company and the unique part of our business like uh we support so many nonprofit NOS's and uh we support you know the deserving students as well across the globe. Uh today I'm here to support Alahadi Mos project. I will second all my fellow
points of view in favor of Alhadi mos project about the need of the place of this worship and community center. I personally want to share some demographic opinions about this diverse city of Lakeville. First, the whole credit goes to the city
officials to make the Lakeville one of the best cities with toprated school, state-of-the-art infrastructure and one of the biggest sports complexes like Grand Prairie Park for all kind of sports activity. I also want to
highlight an email that shown in my inbox on June 15th from the city that uh city needs you know the Lakeville residents input about the community facility studies and I felt proud how this city closely work with the Lakeville resident and value their
opinion and suggestion to make the city the best place to live. Lakeville is one of the fastest growing cities in Minnesota about 80,000 resident and Muslim community has significant numbers in Lakeville city. Lakeville is the
ninth largest city in the state of Minnesota with more than 1,600 business calling it at home. City has grown over 16% in the just last 5 years. Lakeville is familycentric city and the best place to raise kids. Nearly
a quarter of Lakeville residents are children and almost four or five household are families. A lake will grows so does our need for place to bring people together and strengthen the dynamics of this community. Al-Hadi mosque will be having multiple
verticals. They are far more than a place of prayer. A center for core learning about religion and humanity, character building, civic sense and social responsibilities. And on top of that, a place where our children are raised with strong values, where
families find connections, and where neighbors of every background are genuinely welcome. The read is real and immediate. A local and common home for our community will play an integral role in impacting our lives, especially kids personality grooming. and it would let
us organize volunteer effort, youth programs and interfaith partnerships right here in the city we love to choose and raise in uh over here. Respected chair and commissioner, this is who we are. We are your co-worker. We are your
university fellows. We are your children's classmate. We are dedicated professionals, devoted parents and determined students. We are not asking for something apart from this community. We are offering to build something that strengthen it rooted in a very same
values of respect, education and service that make Lakewell special. Our request is humble but the impact is perennial. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> I'm running out of room on my second piece of paper number 18. Please bring
give us your name and address. Try to bring new items and keep yourself to two minutes or less. My name is Muhammad Hasher. Uh I live at 20576 Gunnison Drive, Lakeville. Um I'm an MSU leader at Lakewell South High School, which is
a Muslim student union, which is uh basically a union where Muslim students get together. And I feel like Alhadi mosque would be a great like hub for Muslim students to hang out, where we can host events. We can have a bunch of stuff. And um right now at Lake South
High School, we have events at our school, but it's hard to have events like that at our school because of the timings and availability and stuff, but if you had a mosque, that'd be a great place for Muslim students to hang out and even make new friends and stuff like that. We could invite Muslim students
from other schools like Lakewood North, Apple Valley, and stuff like that. That would just grow our community even stronger. >> That's all. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. We have yet another person that's rise rising to come forward. Please sir,
identify yourself for the record. >> Keep yourself to two minutes. And my name is Muhammad. >> I live in 17801 Jasper Court. >> I probably one of the oldest person in
this gathering tonight. I want to share some experiences with the commission as well as the attendees here. I experienced and developed two different masks sites in Nenina, Wisconsin.
I have been living in Lakeville from 2019. Prior to that, my wife and I lived in Appleton, Wisconsin almost 48 years. The experiences I have is that on on
both occasions, first one was 1980. Uh second one was as recent as about um five years back that local community members, neighbors had big objections, concerns. Most of the
experience that I found is the concern of unknown. 1980 the neighbors thought we were some kind of cult. They had no knowledge of Muslims or Islam and that is the case of most of the time the people do not know
religion of Islam or Muslims. So they have all the issues that would not be there if they could understand these people. So the neighbors same neighbors in 1980 has objection and then later
recently the same neighbors became our good friends. In fact one neighbor now takes care of the lawn care and everything free of charge. We tried to pay him he would not take money from us and the previous location the same
neighbor would look after our side. They we became very good friends. I wanted to share that experience with you. And the second I want to tell you because I'm retired I probably go to the mosque more often than anybody. Alhadi mosque right
location to information of you and the neighbors that most of the time is only I myself and sometime maybe two three people five times prayer that we do in the morning early morning most of the
time just two people or by myself alone and the juma prayer that we have right now in this location 35 40 people in one Juma we have two sessions there so all the information that they are
anticipating the crowd the traffic that they can see I'm the reality I'm sharing with you the final thing I want to say you that our religion says that if you are not a if you are you are not a perfect Muslim or a believer if your
neighbors are not safe from you from your tongue or from your behavior we take neighbors that seriously so we are we want to be good neighbors ers of all the people around and once they allow us to be there, they'll find us. We are very we're just good neighbors. Thank
you for listening. >> Thank you so much. >> Looks like we have another person coming forward. >> Yes, if you could please identify yourself for the record. Uh please bring only new items forward. It's uh 7:21 now. And uh
>> I will be brief. My name is Sandy Putac, 17298 Green Tree Path. I've been a resident in Lakeville for over 20 years. And I've also had a great relationship with our friends at the mosque at the old uh ISD 194 building. I'd like to
speak to the concerns and issues that our friends from the CDA retirement building have. I am the daughter of someone who lives in a CDA building in Burnsville and there are apartment buildings that were built behind them and Quick Trip came in and they wanted
to build and there was a huge outcry. Nobody wanted them there. Accommodations were made and I can say that they love it now. It is a meeting place. It's a hub. And if there's one thing I notice in visiting her is there's an epidemic
of loneliness. And I can say that I'm going to put a positive spin on this and hope and know based on my experience that the mosque being there can be a great way to allay some of that loneliness that these people experience because this community does a lot of
outreach. They really really do. And I think together they can really build a solid relationship with one another and the issues about traffic and lighting. I think they will work together to be respectful and responsible and address
those fears. >> Thank you. I'm hopeful we have exhausted those that wish to testify today. >> Um, and seeing no one else coming forward, I would entertain a motion to
close the public hearing. Madam Chair, I'll make a motion to close the public hearing. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor of closing the public hearing, please say I. >> I. >> Opposed. Public hearing is now closed and we can
revert to uh questions from commissioners as well as having staff address some of the questions that were raised uh in this public hearing. And I am overwhelmed with the number of questions that we had raised. And so I'm
hoping that staff can organize some of that and perhaps uh we could start with addressing some of those first or not. You want some time? We can take questions from commissioners if that's what you prefer. >> Yeah, let's start with questions from
commissioners. >> Okay, commissioners with questions. Madam Chair, >> Commissioner Swinson, >> start with hopefully a softball. >> Okay. >> Um, lighting standards. Um, in terms of what does the city require for lighting
versus what is optional for the property owner and how does this comply with our city ordinance? >> For lighting, we are usually looking at what the the actual illumination levels are. I'm not aware of any requirements
that would require the site to have parking lot lighting. Um, I can say based on the illumination plan, it does not even come close to to to meeting the the high end of the the
lighting standards. It is very low uh based on our our ordinance requirements. >> That answers my question on that topic. if you have >> if you want me to keep going, I will. >> Why don't you ask a couple and then we'll feed it on down the line because I believe there'll be a lot. Thank you.
>> All right. Um, another one that was kind of up my alley here. Um, I heard a comment about the SWIP um, and the um, survey language that was on the SWIP document. Um, by
trade, I'm a civil engineer. Um, I have certifications in preparing SWIPS and doing those things. I can tell you that language that was on the SWIP that was mentioned is basically a disclaimer to cover the event that somebody would try to use the storm water management plan as a survey document because it is not a
survey document. It's an engineering document. Um so that that's really I think what that language was really intended to get. I see the city engineer nodding his head if you would like to verify that. >> Yes. what what you are saying is is
correct for the SWIP document. Um and the SWIP has been reviewed by city staff and is in compliance with what we look for for our checklist of items on the SWIP. Um and easements have been
identified on this site and have been provided to city staff for review. And if I may, >> yes, >> those those easements we're talking about, does that start to address a little bit about the neighboring property owners
questions about future utility potential and or access to the property? >> Yes. So, there is a shared access easement that's in place currently for the property. That is what the the gravel access is for that northern property. Uh there is not an existing
drainage and utility easement to the property that will be required to be provided with this site for any future utility extension needs that that property would like to like to follow. Um there is also the overhead utilities
on the site. Typically there's one of two paths that a site can follow for this. The city does have an ordinance for undergrounding when it is possible for these sites. Um, one pole's located on this property, the other pole's located on the northern property.
There's the potential to either collect an escrow or if they would like to work with the neighboring property owner to to underground at this time with this with their site plan. >> Okay, move along.
Madam Chair, I was just uh because this Junell path is is a dead end street and so there's really for ingress and egress, there's only one way in and out and I'm wondering if the city has done any kind of study traffic or otherwise
about uh emergency uh and first responder traffic, especially with with the uh senior center there. We know that uh in my experience is you know when you have seniors you have you know the ambulance traffic might be a little bit
higher than in normal residential neighborhoods. And the other thing is is because it's got the you know one gentleman was talking about the fact that the traffic a lot of people try to go through that
uh that street and then go cut through the backside of Argon Shopping Center. the C store is to to avoid the traffic lights. I just I'm just wondering what kind of traffic was going to be generated through there and and and when
where and and when people when they have the majority of their uh you know uh attendance at at their facility, what uh you know what about the you know I know that we talked about 59 parking spots, but is there going to be adequate
parking because um where my office is in Burnsville It's it's near a mosque right off of Nicollet 13 and the traffic that that generates is immense and they've already started putting up a lot of no
parking signs. Businesses in the area have been putting up no mosque parking because it's been an issue there. So I I don't know is is the city addressed that at all? >> Commissioner Sweeney. So the parking requirement is the same for all
religious institutions. It's based on one parking space per three seats or or persons of capacity of the main gathering space. Um so in this case the main prayer hall has a a building occupancy as defined by an architect of
118 uh spaces you know spaces for prayer rugs. So the parking is based on one space per three on that number. That's about 39 spaces as their minimum requirement. Um because they are aware
there is no parking allowed on Junel path they are providing the additional spaces to accommodate um their congregation. Uh the 59 spaces if you do the math is half of that 118 capacity.
So if 118 people, you know, couples showed up, that would um accommodate that. That's just one way of looking at that. Um so from that standpoint, they are meeting and exceeding our requirements. You know, obviously we are considering a cup for additional parking
um because they are doing that to meet those requirements. >> Thank you, Commissioner Swainy. >> I have a couple of questions on um >> Go ahead, Commission. If we uh Miss Jensen, if we were to look at parking, a lot of times on kind of quite commercial
or religion, you'll have extra parking that's not necessarily in the plan, but available. Is there any extra parking to be to be developed later or the potential to be developed later? >> It would be up to the congregation if if
they felt the need was there for additional parking. You know, that would be an option for them to do so. Um, but at this point they are meeting and exceeding our parking requirement. >> And then the second thing that I would look at is that within that street
there's no um there's no crosswalks anywhere in there and there's no sidewalks or bike paths in there. Um, so I have some concerns particularly on the the CDA building as to the ability at times to be able to get across that
street. Is there any thought of doing a crosswalk, doing a a path, walk path on that side of the road? >> There wouldn't necessarily be a requirement with this site for an improvement, but if there is community
and public interest, there is the avenue that can be gone down for a capital plan to be put into place and and whether that be through a petition or a city initiated initiative. there there's avenues for public improvements to take
place. It just wouldn't fit with what we have in front of us today with the CUP. >> Okay. >> So, your suggestion I'm sorry, the public hearing is closed. Um I'm just going to interject here um for city engineer. So your suggestion is
that we cannot add a um stipulation requiring a sidewalk in this area because of what's require the limitations of what we can require. >> Yes, we cannot require them to perform
improvements that are not abing their frontage. >> Okay. I think ab above and beyond that though, which was what I think you alluded to, is that there could be a safety issue where the city would say, "Let's put a
crosswalk in there." >> That could be that could be evaluated. Typically, we like to avoid midblock crosswalks. We we prefer crossings at intersections. Um there's immense safety benefit to to having these be located at at the right place. Um, and you would
want the the pedestrian traffic to to be generated to the amount for the >> and in this case that would take a bike path or a walk path to get to a a intersection. >> Yep. Correct. There there's nothing
existing um adjacent to this property. >> Commissioner Ike, do you have some followup or other questions? No, not at this time. >> I did want to remind commissioners that we do have um our city attorney.
I wrote her name down somewhere is here if we have other questions. I'm sorry. I have three sheets in front of me of everybody who spoke, so I'm struggling with that. Uh we'll keep going down the line and come to my questions last. Please, Commissioner Duckworth.
>> My questions have been asked and answered. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Trafice. >> Yes, Madam Madam Chair. I I think there have been many good questions asked. Um I I just thought it would be worth mentioning that many of the things that we've discussed and asked questions about um have very specific criteria
that are evaluated and reported out to us prior to the meeting. Some of these things are standard inclusions in that report, which includes traffic, which includes storm water, which includes lighting. And so those have been um
studied and found to be consistent with our uh standards. One other thing I thought was a very good comment about comprehensive city planning and I I I think perhaps the city staff could add a word or two to this, but we do have a
comprehensive plan as a city. The current one runs through 2040 and it's very much focused on this idea of making independent districts complement each other and fit together. So, but but the
comprehensive planning process maybe maybe a quick word from the from the city staff might be helpful. >> Uh well, I guess what I would say is we are beginning the process of our 20 working on the 2050 comprehensive plan. So certainly there are opportunities for
public improve uh public input uh for that process. As for the comprehensive plan designation um on this property, it was residential which is consistent with how that property was back in 2018 when
the 2040 plan was being put together. Um religious institutions and schools are conditional use permits within residential districts. So this usite would be considered consistent with the comprehensive plan for this um property.
>> Thank you, Commissioner Travis. Commissioner Tinsley, >> my questions have been answered. >> Okay. Thank you. I did have a couple of questions and a few follow-ups because I did take some notes, but on the the MUSA and comprehensive plan and how we're
developing and if this was in fact um a well and septic separate system uh and now it with the increased up to 177 people, what will happen with the sewer
and uh water and etc. and then to extend it out to uh the gentleman who lives to the north. I think it's Mr. Fowler. What happens with that property? And I don't know if that's a question for attorney.
H I remembered >> regarding the sewer and the water service to the property. There's actually existing stubs that have been provided by the city uh for both water and sewer to serve this property that
was constructed back in 2004. And it was with the intent that upon future development of this property that that those would be connected into and the well and septic would be abandoned. >> And does that leave the other gentleman
on an island or is there uh can you explain a little further on that? Uh the gentleman to the north would be required to create his own connection for utilities, but with this development, we
are going to have them be providing a drainage and utility easement to allow for that connection to take place through this property along that that shared access route that's already existing. And so this is a good
opportunity to to help to to provide those sorts of additional connection potential and there is capacity for his property as well in its existing condition for water and sewer service. >> Okay. And that's at a personal cost but
the current owner can remain asis. >> Yes. There's no requirement with this that that they are that he must connect in it. >> Okay, that's helpful. Um
the other questions that had been asked, some of them have been answered, but I did um highlight a couple things regarding the amount of activity that um is going to be happening at uh the mosque and the concern of those
neighbors that they raised that the water runoff and um Commissioner Swans can with permeable so uh runoff on the asphalt as opposed to what it currently which is grass and
um the gravel road. So I I couple of those questions. >> If you'd like I can kind of tee that up. >> Yes, please tee that up for us. Thank you. >> All right. Again um so obviously when you develop a a site um and add impervious surfaces that tends to result
in additional runoff from the property. Um, in order to mitigate that, that's typically where we get into doing ponds, infiltration, and rain garden type facilities, which if you look at the diagram here, um, there's a substantial portion of the property that is being given up for storm water management
purposes. Um, as was alluded to by Commissioner Trafice. Um, city staff takes a look at all the reports, drawings, and everything else and does an evaluation to make sure that it meets city standards and requirements. I'll ask the city engineer, "Did you review a storm water report for this property?
And how does it meet city standards? >> Yes, the the applicant has submitted a storm water report. Uh you are correct that they are providing ponding to help to to control the runoff and the rate control for this site to prevent any
additional uh uh storm water from entering onto Janelle Path. They're also providing storm sewer inlets within the parking lot that will direct the flows into the ponding basin that they have shown. Um in addition to that, they will
be required to enter into a storm water maintenance agreement with the city which then um eliterates more onto what that maintenance plan needs to look like for this private basin into the future.
>> Thank you for that. If I may, one additional question for you as well. Um, there was some commentary about watershed district role in permitting, um, that type of thing. Do you maybe want to kind of educate the audience here a little as to how a watershed
district fits into this process? >> Yes. So, the city is the local governing unit for our watershed. um we provide the the review for the the watershed in our area and make sure that all compliance standards are being met. And
so that is one of the requirements that we look at during our review pro process and is required with the site improvement performance agreement that this site will enter into. Uh that all of those compliance standards and statewide standards are being met or
exceeded. You want me to keep going? I'll switch gears slightly. >> That's okay. Please continue. Commissioner Swanson, >> um, there's a question about the demolition of the existing building on the site. Does the city of Lakeville issue demolition permits and does that have standards and requirements behind
it for proper proper disposal of materials and protection of neighbors? >> We do require a a demolition permit. Um, it's a it's a no fee permit. It's it's more for us to be able to update our our records to know that a building that was
there is no longer there. Um I'm not aware of what the specific requirements are with that uh permit, but there is a process um for the a demolition of a site to ensure that um that is done correctly.
>> Go ahead. >> Waiting for others to be given me the sign. So, please, Commissioner, go ahead. >> All right. If if we're ready, I'll kind of start on my more my commentary. >> Um, I would just ask um staff, have we answered many of the questions, most all
of the questions? I do think there was something regarding activity and the number of vehicles turning over. I I ride my bike and walk to that cub quite regularly and I know that there's the
dirt road which I went down on my bike to try to figure out where this place was. And then I notice on uh the development which is up on the screen that that dirt road won't be the gravel road won't be being used. there will be
yet another intersection there, midb block intersection or midblock entrance. So, um how is that going to work with the one right next to it? Um and is that all going to be paved? Um how is it maintained? Uh some of those questions
and I I do agree that there's um it's going to be very difficult. Um it's already difficult to cross uh as a pedestrian and as a bike bicyclist in that area. So, some concerns on that front as well.
>> Well, the parking lot for the mosque is required to be paved. Um, Mr. Fowler's driveway access, which is that gravel road that you referred to, will be separate. Um, that is not a part of uh the development. They are um not allowed
to encroach into that 30-foot easement. So, that that driveway is maintained. Um, so Mr. Fowler does have access to his property at all times during the construction. Um, as for the traffic, um, it should be noted that Janelle Path
is wider than a standard residential, um, local street. It's about 38 feet wide, whereas a standard residential street's about 32 feet wide. Um, and it is posted as no parking. Um, so that does allow for traffic to be a little
more free flowing. Um if we looked at if the property were developed in uh residential either single family or town homes and we looked at the trips generated from that sort of a development. Town homes we would typically look at about six trips per
day per unit. Single family about 10 trips per day. Um so that could be anywhere from 60 to 100 trips per day you know for a you know 10 unit subdivision in that area. Just for an example, um it seems from the
information that we've been provided um that their attendance at their weekly Friday services is about, uh 70 people between the two services. Uh 35 to 40 cars, um is what they would expect. Um
and that's, you know, more of an event traffic. It's predictable. You know, much like Sunday morning traffic near some of our churches, it's it's heavier for a short time. Um, so that would be a known event for the area. Um, they the
place of worship, um, per the information that was provided by the applicant will be open daily from 100 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Um, I did note that they the pray they do have prayer times listed on their website, but I presume that that does not mean that um, those
are for when the the mosque itself will be operating. It's it's for based on the their uh, >> I couldn't hear that part. You said open from 1:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. And they and that that's essentially the hours, not the three what did someone say?
>> 3:40 a.m., >> right? Those are those are prayer times that are listed on their website, but that doesn't necessarily mean that that it's a prayer happening at that. That's a prayer time that would be happening at the mosque. um
on an average day they are expecting 8 to 10 members to stop by during those prayer times when they are open. So that is um you know a relatively low volume of traffic for that. they do have, you know, the other programs during the the
week. Uh, youth programs, um, 20 to 30 members for these different. So, again, based on comparing it with a potential residential development, I would say it's consistent with what um, that traffic generation could be if it was a
residential development. So, >> okay, >> I just wanted to add something. Um, the public hearing is closed. I'm sorry you're not able to comment or you may want to have the the person
who introduced the project maybe address those issues. >> Yes. Um, that was going to be my uh other thought before we have comments from commissioners. Um, if we could have Mr. Shabaz come up and u address some of the concerns as well. I'm sure you took copious notes.
>> Yeah, sure. Yeah. I think u I think the main uh I mean some of the concern I was noted uh down and just wanted to clarify as Chris was mentioning um for the mosque for Alhadi Association the operational hours are from 1 to 9:00
p.m. And along with that we also have along with the daily prayer we also have some of the um uh regular programs which we have already shared when we met with the neighborhood as well as they are available on our website and that is
what we submitted to the city. Uh we have a uh weekly group study as well that we do on Thursday. We have some monthly youth program. We have uh Friday main congregation is on the Friday as well as we have some early occasional
program uh where we do the different kind of activities. For example, one of the event that we did is the barbecue event that we did in the summer and we invited the neighborhood around the junel pad as well that to to give an example what
kind of event we have and uh I think someone mentioned in one of the comments that um they had the clothing event or something like that. Yeah, these kind of event we don't do regularly but it's once in a while kind of a thing where we
u where we perform this thing. Um uh along with that I think there was a comment about the parking uh again I mean we we we have a group of we will have a group of volunteers the train volunteers which will be monitoring the
uh exit point of the property to make sure or to control the traffic at the exit point so that the right of the way for the existing vehicle which are on the junel path should be passed through and after that the the vehicles which are either entering or exiting
should be uh passed through to the junel path because the right of the way is on the uh is on the on the vehicles that which are already on the junel path. So we are going to have the group of uh uh volunteers available in the Friday event as well as in the uh special events to
make sure that the safety and the disturbance of the neighborhood should not get impacted as well as these volunteers will make sure that since the Junel path is the no parking zone um that nobody should be uh parking um on
the street. I and that was the main reason that the proposed parking was exceeded. I mean was proposed exceeded considering the fact factor that this 59 vehicles uh will be sufficient for our community when they are coming for the
Friday prayer as well as for any of the uh events which required the maximum visitors and these additional parking spot will take care of it and that will avoid having any disturbance on the neighborhood by having the volunteers on
site will be available. Um and rest I think rest of the comments were about the uh technical stuff about the rain garden that there is something I mean uh nobody maintain and all this
thing. Uh our understanding is for the pond and for the rain guarding or the for the storm water management uh the as an applicant or the or the owner of the site we have to sign the storm water maintenance agreement as well as uh site
improvement uh performance agreement as well to have the strong water as well as site in a in a on on in in a in a running condition or in order to meet the standards we are required to have the regular inspection whatever the city
code is and we are we are we are bound to sign that agreement and to execute it as we will move forward. Um yeah these are the some some of the questions that that I think I have noted
down uh rest of the thing I think city already have addressed it. Yeah >> I was looking over my list as well. Commissioners do you have any direct questions for Mr. Shabbaz. >> No, not at this time. Thank you so much.
>> Yeah, thank you so much. >> Um, the planning commission is limited in what we can do um based on ordinances and I'm not sure who's the right person to just give our overarching statement. Um, if that would be attorney or if that
would be our uh director. >> Okay, good. And speak up because I can't hear you too well. I don't think it's working. Maybe you need to come up to the front to the this microphone. That would be great. >> Thank you. So a conditional use permit is
essentially a permitted use subject to meeting the conditions identified in the ordinance. The council has or the planning commission and then the council has very limited authority, very limited discretion. Um when it comes to conditional use permits, you're acting like a judge and looking at the facts
and then just making sure that they meet those criteria. um you do have the ability to provide some conditions provided that they are related to the impact of the property uh and relate to uh public health safety and welfare. So
those are the parameters of what you can do here with conditional use permits. >> Excellent. Thank you. Any questions for our attorney? >> Okay, doesn't appear to be any questions. Thank you so much, Attorney Pal. Uh and uh Commissioner Swinson, you
had some additional comments you wanted to make. >> Sure. Um thank you for the opportunity to kind of speak here on this. Um I'll I'll state I'm I'm the elder member of the planning commission at this point and uh who is present here. I've I've been on the planning commission for well
over a decade at this time. Um I I was here when the uh senior living facility came through and uh also here when the town home development came through. Um, do we as a planning commission and planning staff always get everything
100% right? No, we don't. Um, was should we have maybe thought about a sidewalk with the senior living facility and that type of thing at that time? Sure, we probably should have, but we didn't. Um, so here we are in the boat that we are now. Um, we can control what's going on
with this site and and that's what we are talking about specifically. Um, and again, being a long-standing member of the planning commission, I've I've seen a multitude of religious uses come through in a variety of different sites and settings. Many of them have uh
raised some controversy in terms of traffic uh appropriateness uh adjacent to other residential housing. And again, it's an allowed use within our residential districts in the city of Lakeville. It's no different than any other religious institution that is located in these types of places. So,
with that, we're basically bound to try to um evaluate, does this meet our rules and standards? And as city staff has reviewed and put in front of us, they believe it does. And so, from that standpoint, that more or less teased this up um for us to approve u in the
the format that it sits. I do want to say thank you to all the members of um the community who came out to speak on this, including um the Alhadi Association members. want to say thank you to the townhouse folks for coming and representing your position for the
townhouse neighborhood. I appreciate that and know that we do hear your feedback. Also, um the sen folks from the senior living facility. Again, appreciate you having one representative to speak kind of to the interest of the senior living facility. So, we do appreciate that. Also want to say thank
you to Mr. Fowler for being here this evening. That was one voice that I thought was important we hear from. I'm glad you were here and thank you for speaking up. Otherwise, I'm I'll be proud to uh support this one because again, it meets city standards and requirements for a relig religious institution and that's
all I plan to vote. >> Anybody else have comments? I have a few. I'm very hopeful that we answered most of the questions. Um, I think there were some concerns that things hadn't been posted properly and I
know that our staff does take uh great care in making sure that the neighbors all have the documents in a timely manner. And I'm looking over to just make sure we get the nod that um we met all the legal requirements for posting
and reaching out to the proper uh folks in the community. And so, uh, I'm getting that nod of affirmation that we did do that. And, um, when something new comes into your neighborhood, it's, you know, there's, uh, always change. And
that's what planning commission is about. We're here, uh, to kind of formalize the change and try to get us into a a proper track and to guide uh, the city and the requirements. And we've had a fairly full discussion here. It
will still go on to um provided it passes, it will still go then it would go on to city council where there would be uh more uh discussion and further debate. Um which is another opportunity to raise your uh concerns and or support
for this project. Uh um with that, I don't think anybody else had closing comments. Um, and so we would be uh ready to take a motion. >> Madam Chair, move to recommend a city
council approval of the conditional use permit to allow a religious institution use in the RS2 single family residential district and to exceed 125% of the minimum parking stalls required by the zoning ordinance subject to the seven stipulations as amended in the planning
report dated June 15, 2026 and the findings of fact. Second. >> Excuse me. There is a motion and a second. I would ask Miss Ericson to please take the role. >> Zimmer. >> I. >> Ike. >> Hi. >> Swainy.
>> Hi. >> Swanson. >> I. >> Tinsley. >> I. >> Traffus. >> Hi. >> Duckworth. >> Hi. >> Uh, the eyes have it. Once again, um, the motion is passed and, uh, we thank everyone for their input, pro and con.
And um it's uh 8:00 and we still have more business to do. So the sooner we can wrap it up and get out of here the better. Uh with that I I think we are adjourned. Yes, we are adjourned. Thank
you.