[Music] Good evening and welcome to the select board and wage and wage and personnel board uh Tuesday, June 24th, 2025 at 5:45 p.m. Is anyone besides Lake Cam recording?
Hear none. Call to order and pledge of allegiance. Do we have a flag in this room? Yes. All right. Pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And let's call this meeting to order. Plug here. Candida here. Carboni here. Plant here. Excellent. Thank you everyone for joining. I'm sure you're all just here to escape the heat. You
know, you didn't really want to come. You're here to be cool. Um, we're going to first item up. Oh, we don't have any announcements or anything. Three. different order today. All right.
Discuss and possible vote to approve vacation carryover for Kim and Cathy. Any contexts here from There she is. Hi. Sorry if I was out. No, no worries. Generator. Okay. Hi. Hello. So, there are two
requests for the carryover. Um, the first one's for Kathy Murray because we were in between planners. um she wasn't able to take all of it. So, she's asking for 12 hours over that she plans to take in either July or August. Okay. And then
the second one is Kim uh Degrazia. She had planned an event um and had wanted to take two weeks for it and it got cancelled. So, the event is now happening either July or August. So, she's just banking it for that event.
Okay. So, everything will be used up by August, the end of August. Okay. Okay. All right. Any further questions before we uh No. All right. Take a motion. I'll make a motion um to approve the vacation
carryover time request for Kimberly Degrazia and Kathy Murray. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any further conversation hearing? None. Roll call. I candy.
Carboni. I hunt I um we always try to clean that up as much as possible. Um Lacy, are you sending out the use up use up your time notices? So yeah, every month at the end of the month, uh HR sends out to the department heads how much leave each
person has so they know what they you know they appreciated. Thank you. You're welcome. And that's it for you? I think so. Yes. Thank you guys. Thank you. Moving on to item number three, select board announcements. The arts council
would like to announce that there'll be uh four summer there will be four summer concerts at the pavilion at the townhouse. July 8th between 6:00 and 8:00 p.m. The Moonbellies will perform. This concert is also sponsored by the Lakeville Library and Arts Council. The
remaining three concerts are sponsored by the Arts Council. On July 15th from 6 to8 p.m. Wooden Project Band will perform. On July 22nd from 688 PM, Black Vinyl Band will perform. And the last
concert will be on July 29th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. Total Strangers will perform. To get information on these concerts, please visit the town's website at www. lakevillemma.org. Uh the select board is looking for three at large members of the public to serve
on the town hall building reuse subcommittee. Details on these and other vacant positions can be found on the town's fa Facebook or website. Are there any other announcements from any of the other members? I can't think of any. I'm
looking at this. I'm like no. The only announcement for people at home, uh, if you're watching this, you're probably not affected yet, but there seems to be a wave of, uh, a power outage is around town. Um, mostly focused, uh, on that
side, uh, and a little bit up on Pickin Street and then going over on Kingman. Um, so we're hoping uh, MG gets gets those sorted out as as quick as possible. Agenda item number four, town
administrators report. Andrew, I uh sent this out a little later than normal uh just because I was on vacation last week. You should have a um in your packet as well. I'll just go through everything. Um so road paving has been completed for the month of June. Andrew, could you speak up a little bit? I Yeah.
Uh so the road paving has been completed for the month of June. Uh paving will be coming back uh Frank and his guys back in July and August once the chapter 90 funds are replenished. Um the Ted Williams camp parking lot just outside uh project began last week. You'll see a
huge ditch. That's the drainage. Um there will be fencing uh set up at some point. Um we Lacy and I met with the National Fitness Campaign Fitness Court representatives. Um a couple weeks ago
and then also this past week. Um there's something that kind of is is starting to pop up. Uh there's one where I live in Swansea, Somerset, Bridgewater State has one. Um it's basically a huge driver of people to parks. It's Do you want to Do you want to explain to the the people at
home? So it's essentially it's a big uh fitness court. One half will be like fitness uh equipment and the other half will be like studio space. So like classes for yoga or and it's all outdoors. All outdoors. Um so easily accessible for people all uh as
accessible as you possibly can be. Yep. Yeah. Typically they have it in a big place like a park. So we were thinking actually just outside here. Um so they'll they'll give us about $50,000 for it. Um, and then we have to match. It gets a little pricey, 170 to 220,000.
Most communities use CPA funding. Um, they want to kind of have us locked into it pretty quickly. I don't know if that's possible, but I think in 2026 it's doable. Okay. Um, that's something I'll bring back to the select board when we can. Okay. And the select board will
Now, how would the select board sponsor for CPA? Because we usually decide on the CPA. So, are we allowed to advocate for anything for CPA funds? I don't think we decide, but I think we can put in the Well, we decide to put it on the warrant. So, I don't know if it Oh, I see what you're Yeah. I don't know if it
kind of breaches the in the bri. When I did CPA Midbar, the town manager's office was always like the sponsor. Okay. And then technically it was our office, not the select board really getting involved until the warrant period. Fantastic. Um, so your question
Can you come up to a mic so everyone can and identify yourself so everyone can hear you? Thank you. Uh I'm Charlie Weley and we live in the residence in Whiteville and the question I have is is Fern Avenue private lake. Oh. Um we
weren't talking about that that subject. I think he brought up this the fact that the paving is all finished in June. Yeah. Um for now for for now isn't a private way. It's an accepted way. Well, it needs to be repaired if it's not a
private way. Should be public, but I I I I'd have to check the paving schedule. Okay. Because the anybody who wants to get back into the back entrance of the residences has to negotiate a lot of potholes, right? Thank you. Yep.
Um, another um unexpected project that came up was the um the the sinkhole of sorts at Asawamset Elementary. Um, it ended up being an abandoned septic system and that was filled in today. So, there shouldn't be any. Do we have any
other abandoned septic systems that are going to be problematic? So, they're going to investigate more fully on the site. That seems so irresponsible and it's the second one in 5 years. Yeah. There. So, there's potential it might be a third, you know. So, we're going to investigate
more into it. Um just they they were put in back in the 1940s and uh unfortunately there's not a lot of plans. Um some of the auctions all three of them will be done on July 28th.
Um Mike Ellis and I are running an analysis currently. We'll bring to the board in July or August on our financial standing for fiscal year 27. um that'll kind of drive the rest of the conversation and kind of the budget
process will get kind of started a whole lot earlier than it did last year. Um so probably in September we'll start driving it one way or the other. Um I'm meeting with Civic Plus this week to go over the new website and any options.
I'll bring a I'll bring up a future update to the board when I can. The economic development committee will be meeting either July 14th or the 21st for the first time in since 2017, I believe. So, that's exciting. Um,
we held interviews for the executive assistant to the select board and town administrator uh a few weeks ago. Uh, we will be bringing an appointment on July 8th. Um, similar to that, we interviewed a town planner candidate and we will also be bringing a recommendation for an
appointment on July 8th. Um, an employee appreciation event will occur on August 28th and we will bring more details on that to the select board on July 8th as well. Very excited to hear that we got that back on the on the list. Yep. And then
there is a purple heart ceremony in the uh planning stages that will occur on July 30th at the old town hall. And is that through our veterans agent? Correct. Okay. Do we have a M question at time? Any idea day evening? I believe
it's 1:00, but I'll confirm Saturday. Okay. Anyone have questions for Andrew? All right. Next item is agenda item number five and it is select board
meeting minutes for May 19th, May 30th, and June 2nd of 2025. [Music] And the May 19th ones were emailed. Do we have an extra copy of that? No.
Yeah, we may not get through it. Emma, yeah, it was all printed. There it is. Yep. There a printed copy in the supplement. Does anyone have any comments, corrections, points of clarification
on the May 19th? [Music] Uh, yes m page two. The first paragraph, member Plunka said this is an existing
town road, but this says to lay out what I what I believe I recall what I was saying was member Plunker said, "Is this an existing town road as this speaks or something to the layout of a portion of
Harrison as a public?" Okay. So, it's a question, not a statement. Exactly. Right. which uh Frank clarify confirm why. Okay. Did anyone else have any other corrections? [Music]
Oh. Um I thought I had no I guess that's all I have. Thank you. Okay. Hearing no more. I'll make a motion um to approve the select board meeting minutes of May 19th, 2025 with Oh, I'm correct. You
found one. It's very very minor. Oh, we could do a dur comments. Yeah, it sorry. Page 10 under the old colony rete uh building committee update that I provided. Second sentence
cost estimated phase will be in July and they're looking for final cost by the end of July. That you just missed the buy in there. See that second second sentence by the end of July. Okay. Thank you. Okay.
Motion. Motion stands. Do I have a second? Seconded. Motion and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll. Candy. I Carboni. I punt I
May 30th meeting minutes. No. I'll make a motion to approve the select board meeting minutes of May 30th, 2025. Seconded. Have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll call. Pluck eye. Candida one.
Carboni. I Punt I. And on to June 2nd. Well, we'll make a motion to approve the select board meeting minutes of June 2nd, 2025. Seconded. Motion is second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll call. I
do. Carboni. I. Hunt. I. Okay. Yay. on the dot 6:00. Um, let's see. So, we have 6:15 meet with John Gregory. Let's go ahead and go for uh Andrew, do you have any preferences
here or anyone? I think number 10 just based on the people. Okay. Number item number 10, discuss memo from the zoning board of appeals regarding extension of Taton waterline for phase six of residences of the Varon Hills.
On to number 10. I'm going to Yes. I'm going to read this into the record. Uh this is a memorandum to the board of selectmen from the zoning board of appeals dated June 16, 2025 regarding the residences of Learon Hill.
The zoning board of appeals respectfully asks respectfully asks the Lakeville Select Board to advocate on behalf of the residents and developer of the residences of Learon Hill that the Tottenham water department allow for the extension of the water line from Learon
Boulevard through Fern a to precinct strength street as part of phase six of the development. It is our understanding that Taton Water Department requested that the developer install a water gate as a condition of this extension. In addition to allowing the line extension,
we would also ask that Taton not require a water gate and that the line be kept active at all times as it would improve the pressure and quality of the water system that runs through the entire Learon community. since that would render the current single meter ineffective. Each homeowner would
individually be charged for their water use, which we feel is the fair and right thing to do. There are currently existing meters in each home, and it is our understanding that the residents are willing to upgrade their water meters at their own expense to meet Taton's
specifications. Thank you for your consideration of this request. And is that John's signature? I don't even know. Is is that a signature? should be looks like a butterfly. All right. Um, so I'd like everyone to just have their
discussion on that if uh if you're in agreement and and if you have any questions and then we can ask Andrew about the the Watergate and what that means for um for Taton. Wait a minute. We have a Lakeville Watergate. Yes,
Watergate. Watergate hotel. I just wanted to make sure I was listening correctly. I know we've been a boring select board so far, but just buckle up. We'll we'll be we'll be crazy another time. So So you're asking us if we I'm asking about
opinions. So I know that there has been a concern down here for, you know, quite some time that we're we're trying to work toward a resolution. As far as water is concerned, I my basic understanding is that in order to have a
clear and I guess um safe, it has to flow, right? There has to be a continuous flow. Continuous flow. So requesting from Taton having a water gate there, that means that it's closed
off. That is my understanding, but I'm not a water expert. Neither am I. But um we we're missing the water boy today. It would be closed in case of an emergency unless it was an emergency. I mean, it's like it could be opened up but just not
on a day-to-day basis. It's just a weird madam. I think it's a way to continue the master meter. Yeah. So, I I've been uh doing a fair amount of work with this uh helping out the homeowners association.
has some meetings with uh special services Nate as well as our state representative and uh town administrator. This has significant uh implications. This request here on the surface that may appear to be fairly simple, but it's got significant uh
impacts. Um this is a solution that I personally uh support and have been attempting to advocate for on behalf of the homeowners association. Um by requiring to have to not um have this
water gate installed uh means just as what Andrew said that the water would flow in continuous uh which renders their one master valve um ineffective which means now that
Taton has to um basically take on ownership and maintenance of the infrastructure which is currently has not been resolved yet. Uh it would allow the residents to be able to rebuild at a residential rate instead of a commercial rate. Um but
again, this implies that Taon is going to take over ownership, which they have not yet agreed to. Uh some of the issues that have kind of held up these discussions with the lack of the asills, which are detailed technical designs, which we did just receive. And yeah, those were received by the de produced
by the developer. as far as I know, they're handed over to Tarton. Uh, and we also, and the other wrinkle in the whole equation is that, you know, DP, uh, is aware of this and they're not going to stand by much longer and allow this system to be all practical purposes
unregulated at the moment. So, you you're saying that D is going to involve themselves because traditionally, I have to say D has not involved themselves on behalf of the people. They several years
ago they did send a letter um requesting you know some additional information and resolution to the issue. They kind of the letter didn't go anywhere. DB just kind of u didn't follow up on it. Uh we've now have D uh involved through uh
state representative Noral. Uh he's had a preliminary meeting with them uh and we're waiting for them to provide additional guidance. Uh however, it's possible that D could either uh rule that the homeowners association has to take on responsibility and
maintain the system themselves or rule that Taton needs to take over ownership. So how would they take it over themselves? They make themselves a water district, the homeowner association. Yes. Yeah. Which could have significant implications for other developments in town as well. Okay. That currently be
unregulated. Thank you for that thorough. Uh so again this is a something would be another tool to help us apply pressure to taunt but I think ultimately that pressure is going to come from D. Yeah. Well it in my estimation it's it's a public good issue
and it's absolutely absolutely and andrew did I capture that? Yeah. One last piece is Stonebridge recently hired consultant lawyer of some kind uh with a D history. And so I think they brought
him in for this purpose to I guess um ask D to get involved more than they have been. Yeah. And I think there's been discussions going on. Yeah. The commercial rate always kills my and and madam chair for the record the developer committed at the last meeting to not
pulling any additional permits until this issue is resolved. Okay. And he's they are have put forth a good faith effort to resolve the issue. Yep. Appreciate it. Mr. Hunt, do you have anything to add? No, I defer most of this to member Quonka who is he's up on
it deep into it. Yes. All right. Madam Chair, may I You may please step up to the mic and identify yourself. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Kelly Newman. I'm I'm the chairperson of our water committee. I just have an
update that I found. I reached out to Jim McGloin at the Massachusetts T update because apparently the attorneys, they were on vacation, this and that. The email I received this afternoon around 4:30 is that they should be meeting next week, the attorney from
from the builder from Stonebridge and the Massachusetts D's attorney to discuss this very matter. That's the latest and greatest that we have. Thank you very much. Thank you. Good to know. Um, well, the way this is written, I
don't know if we have any votes to take. Um, but I too would propose that we write a letter in support from the select board. I don't think we have to vote on No, I think we have consensus. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that we have consensus
that the select board um would echo the sentiments of the ZBA. I can draft the letter this week and report it to everybody before I send it off. All right, very good. Thank you.
609. Um let's go to item number 11, please. Hey, speak up. First of all, good to see you again. I know. It's been a long time. I hope
you're enjoying your retirement. I spoke with you. You said something about getting involved and you really did. Um, identify yourself for the record, please. Kevin McNammy. live in the Levar Hills HOA. So, my concern here is that
it's important to understand as Chris pointed out that none of the homeowners were ever informed that we were going to have to become the public water supplies. That's issue number one. There's a cost to that just as it is to maintain the sewer system. And we mentioned that to Andrew before and I
spoke with Paul and I spoke with Chris about it and I think I spoke with Rain at 1.2. The second thing is to understand is that by not having that valve opened and have that continuous water flow. Um we it's not safe water. I mean because there's no way of telling what type of
bacteria grows in those pipes. So the only way to have that happen is to have that continuous flow as Chris mentioned. But the other part is by having it closed. There's a couple of problems that it brings the bacteria and that forces us to become a public water
supply. And then the second piece is is my understanding is from uh the police chief, fire chief is that he mentioned to me something about there could be potential not to have enough uh
power but enough water pressure. Exactly. Thank you. to be able to uh if there were fires there could be implications to that end. So there is a safety issue as well. And last thing I just want to point out as Chris mentioned in and Andrew mentioned in his
letter is that we are prepared. We have discussed it as HOAs to install those itron radios in each of the homes which they would need to read them. The complication comes in is exactly what Chris just described. It's not as simple as it sounds. But neither was the fact
that you know after all the meetings that I've had with board members over the last couple of years it seemed it appears to me and it started with Rachel Cameron. I'm not sure that anybody really oversaw the entire project. It was like a decision was made. They saw money coming as an HOA and they made a
decision. Okay, master meter. Nobody understood it and they just probably allowed it to happen. And then at the end of the day, we get charged with commercial rate and the potential to become a public water supply. So I think that there is it it was a collective
number of things. I think I I hate to bring the town, but I think the town could have been complicit. they could have done a better job in understanding after speaking to uh Nate Darland about it who's very well informed. Um it's just the oversight. You know, we're being told by the city of Taton that
there was no oversight and that's the reason they don't want to take over the infrastructure. But it's not that simple. And Darwin said to told us that he actually physically saw water inspectors down there periodically. It wasn't like they were there every day. So you got the city saying one thing and
then you got Nate Dialin telling us another thing and then you got the builder builder telling us other things. So, it it just I I'm speaking for the group, I'm sure, but I I think we are we need your support on this because the cost for infrastructure, uh this the
sewage plants, the the public water supply, all of these costs were I at least I suspect were never taken into consideration when that developed, but as the development was being built and it's very very costly. So, it's like how
far do we have to take this? I mean for the homeowners who were never informed of any of it and we're trying to you know bring people up to speed and the important thing is to take away from it is is how much can an HOA absorb you know in terms of costs I mean can we
absorb infrastructure you know I don't think so I mean but right now we're on the hook for we're on the hook for the public water supply we're on the hook for the the septic system you know but we at least we understood that part but the water situation the city of Ton
the way that they walked away from it and Andrew tried to help us get a meeting with them at one point and ultimately boils down to money and I get that you know it it's like I almost be willing to pay the commercial rate just to have them take over the water infrastructure and reinstall the Itron
radios but after all the length of meetings that we've had I've been involved with a number of them it just seems like we've pretty much been spinning our wheels and we're going nowhere so it just that's kind I I just want to take a couple of minutes to bring you up to speed um on
what's going on and how important it is for us as an HOA and for the homeowners because I it again I just it people find really understood the implications and costs. They'd be moving out of that place. You're just going to have like a a ghost town over there and so I just uh
would appreciate the support that that you're going to give us and uh and appreciate you giving me the time. Thank you. Thank you Mr. M. Um to further a point that Mr. McMany made. Could you add on to that letter about the chief having concerns about fire suppression
if there is a gate on there for water pressure? I think that's an impactful statement as part of what we're trying to achieve. Um, and then I I will say uh and I'm not an expert. Nate is the expert on you know what's coming in. I I
don't know how much ability we have to regulate water from Taton once we approve the connection. I think that I think a lot of what we're doing uh when we're approving the permits and stuff, we rely on other data as opposed to our
own u data that we're we're compiling in our own rules when it comes to connections to water. So understood that you guys are our cautionary tale now. Um, and it's it's a bad place to be in. And um, you know, and I I know we've
been spinning our wheels collectively because there's just not much we could have done in the past, but there seems to be some momentum now, and we're going to stick to it as much as we can. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Um, tauntton water connection. Uh 11. Attached is an
application to connect Tauntton water for 145 Rhode Island Road. Also is attached as memo from Zenith Engineering regarding the request. Has everyone had a chance to look this over? Mad, I assume this is a new development.
I'm not familiar with what's sitting at the property now. Yeah. What? There's no map. That's what I was looking for. Gets me every time. Um, how can we tell why? Yeah, I understand what they ask. It should be in the I know what they're
asking, but why? Right. It's a residential use, two lots. Yep. Two houses. And you'd have to assume and be assuming that it's new cuz it's two houses. They could put that in there. I agree. Redevelopment or
existing one failed or I don't know. Can we just add this to the application so we get some more insight? Yeah, it looks like the Arietta property on Rhode Island. Look at you, you oldtimer from way back. So, my first
call there was um it's a it so it's going to be on the right hand side as you're heading south on 79. Uh you go past Southwest Street. Mr. Lee's house is set in the back and Mrs.
Arieta's house is a very tiny uh little ranch style house right on the street as you're heading up the hill towards Mockingbird Hill. And it's a it's a fairly large piece of property that goes goes deep right there. But a very like
maybe a 800 or 900 square foot house. So it sounds like they're converting from a well to go on then instead of a new construction. But definitely a recommendation going forward you put why I think that is why
and maybe a map. Yeah. Yeah. Required because it does say that the assessor's map 25 lot one map lot but I'm not that good. Yeah. No documentation on it. Does anyone have any objections without the map or do they feel comfortable
making a motion? Speak up on this. We're talking water again. I would just again to avoid making mistakes again. I would ask for a lot more detail than what you're reading. I would ask Taton spec or whomever give details of where that
water goes in. Is it is it cuz we got burned. We were a master leader. We know our situation. Everyone kept saying, "Oh yeah, it's okay. Everything's okay." This is just a strict residential. I would just make sure that they're not going to throw in a master meter. I I
I've never even heard of it before. Learon, I have to tell you besides actually a I know I just I would I would proceed with caution just to make sure that it truly I would ask recommend that consider asking them what is the
connection? Does it go to the house? It does say uh what it does in the in the description. Thank you. Yep. Do I have a motion or I'll make a motion to approve the um the request for a ton
water connection at 145 Rhode Island Road. And can I get a second? Any discussion besides the additional points of including the map and getting a little
bit more detailed on the connection application on what's it for? Um and then outlining what's it for. Um, I mean, we do have the words um to to tell us and guide us what's going, but uh nothing beats having a visual. Agreed.
I have a motion in the second. Roll call vote. I do. Carboni I. Hunt. And back to item agenda item number six. Meet with John Gregory to discuss potential energy savings for the town.
John, would you like to have a seat over there? Thank you everybody. Thank you. Jeez, John, you really clear a room. I know. All right. Um, we're meeting tonight with John Gregory to discuss potential
ed energy savings for the town. He has a small presentation he'd like to share and he provided the board with some documents regarding things like green communities um and other um enhancement type of services. I'll let you um you
have up to 15 or wait I'm sorry you have yeah a little over 10 minutes. So the agenda package in the spreadsheet I sent in the May 22nd email. I I was trying to learn a concept of
method of behavior called smart brevity. Okay. I go on and on and on. So the presentation tonight I'm going to strive for smart brevity. Short we're here for it. Okay. the
Andrew sent me the budget book as the finance committee and it's like where we're going through the details. So I went through that looking for electricity and fuel oil for each department. I built a spreadsheet which totaled up to 372,000
and some of change that includes Lakeville share of the Freetown Lakeville school buildings. So reached out to Jean Scully at the district. She's in the accounting department. She had been tracking that herself with the energy cost across all the buildings, school buildings. So that seemed like a
huge number to me. I got to thinking, well, hearing about the financial crisis, property taxes is the income for the town. So went into the assessor's map.
What with the 1035 or 1055 assessor formula per thousand dollar per thousand? How much property value would result in $372,000? Okay. So, how much property would pay tax to pay our energy bill? Okay. I was
stunned to find out that our Ocean Spray, two properties they have up by 495, there's two properties here on that big campus, that would not the taxes they pay would not cover our bill. They'd be
short about 77 700. They'd be short. So, a concept I'd like to introduce, if you don't know about it already, is something called net zero. It's a building concept. It's embraced in the state's clean energy and climate change
act or plan for 2025 and 2030 out to 2050. So net zero is when a house or building is built very very efficiently. So it doesn't need much energy to heat or cool it. So the technical phrase is energy
use intensity, right? So it just doesn't take much kilowatts to heat or cool the building on a yearly basis. So when you put renewable energy like solar panels or wind equipment on that building, the the energy here's your energy cost and
the energy generated just about matches what the building needs. So it's a net zero. Bottom line is that building doesn't have a utility bill. Pays nothing because the energy comes from the renewable and it's so efficient.
Okay. So I thought, well, if we could reach that goal across all our town buildings and get to net zero where we pay no utility bill, then our our the outgoing expense of $372,000.
Now that becomes savings. That's new income. You're not spending tax dollars to pay for that that expense. Okay? So that's like the equivalent of it getting finding through economic development a brand new ocean spray and finding land
for them to occupy to generate t to pay taxes on a new business to fund our energy habit. Okay. So I thought well getting a plan together I'm not suggesting spending money right now because we are in the financial crisis. I'm saying let's
embrace the concept of net zero and through the we're we've been a the town is in the green community program since 2012 with Nate and Lorraine and others bringing in grants to fund energy conservation measures
across town buildings and generally that is a measure where they their goal is to reduce energy use by 20%. That's great news. Good news, bad news. Good news is you're saving 20%. Bad news, you still have to pay the 80.
So that 372 might represent 80% that we're we haven't yet figured a way to save. So net zero would get us to to zero on utility bills. Now there's a in the green community, it would introduce a new program called the
climate leaders community. So it takes green community and steps it up a notch or two to have grants to fund something called a a roadmap. Fancy term is a uh decarbonization roadmap. That simply
means help plant help the town figure a way to stop using fossil fuels and go all electric. So the understand and there's a facilitator for our region in the southeast Massachusetts lady named Lisa Lisa
Sullivan who's our green community court facilitator. I've talked with her on the phone and she would be available as the representative of the green community climate leader program to come to town make a presentation to the select board to explain the climate leaders program
what it how the requirements to enter the program for a town and the grant money available and the timing for that grant money. My understanding talking to Lisa today and then as I wrote this this email in the middle of May, they this
the program would fund a consultant to generate the roadmap which would then give us a plan what do we do for the library council on aging uh you know all our different town buildings. How do you achieve net zero
and that you know if you're going to control a process you first have to measure it. So we measured the in and the plan the road map would give us a plan on how to achieve the goal and what
and then in addition to roughly $100,000 to pay for the road map told there'd be a another grant of approx a little over a million dollars to achieve uh net zero on town buildings. So there's you know in in comparison
over the years I found on the mass.gov of the total money for green communities since 2012 is about $880,000. And so the uh the ask of the select
board is uh well first thank you for inviting me to speak tonight. Pleasure to meet you all. First I ask is to invite Lisa Sullivan and set a time and have her make a presentation to you guys about what this program involves and what the benefit of
the town would be. And in the sake of short brevity like to stop here and say maybe would you all have questions for me or do you want to make a motion to bring this to the vote or what's what's appropriate? So I just
want to uh go up first. We uh the town has not had their energy advisory committee in effect um for some time now um since probably 2019 2020 because I remember Brian Day was on it. Um so 2020
um I think the right people to work on that and and come up with uh specific solutions and and advocate for that would probably be in that committee. Um, but say but also saying that there is a need for everything that you brought up
today for trying to get closer. I I I make no illusions about thinking that we could get to zero in a very quick order. We have a lot of old buildings. We have a lot of things that it would take a very long time to get, but we can we could do what we can with what we can.
Um and that I would uh make a motion that uh we should make sure that it is on the agenda to re-establish that committee um as soon as July 1st, right? July 1st. Oh, we'll be voting
member the membership. Yeah. Right. Yeah. After July 1st, we'll be voting membership. So, we would need to recruit new members for that as well. We're also doing that tonight. Oh, that one's on No. Is it on tonight?
Yeah. Number 15. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought No, the whole one like Yeah. Yeah. No. Adding adding it to the website, getting more members. If you're a member of one, you can't you can't do anything. There is no member of one. Um
I appreciate I I read through some of your documents. Um, as you know, um, Lakeville was one of the first communities to go green community and we've focused most of our efforts on the schools in the in the last 13 years of green communities. Um, I know the
schools have some very big challenges coming up with heating. Um, and I think that's where I would probably start is anything heating related for the schools as those capital projects will be coming to us and that might be a really good place to take a small bite out of an elephant.
um as it were. But uh I don't have a specific guidance for tonight besides getting together the energy advisory committee and um and then looking at where we can put our green community for the upcoming year uh for starting to
attack that with a consultant. Um but yeah, I would love uh to put a a full committee together and I think that committee is how many people? Seven. Five. Seven. Seven. But the it's been it's dwindled down. It's not too many people on it. Right. Do we want to
relook at that charge and make it five to get it up and going? Seven's a really hard number to start from scratch from. Not to mention it's just a hard number anyways these days. if we could put the charge on the agenda for next time and
then we can relook at the charge and move that forward and through you maybe um reach out to the members um that were on there to see if there's still interest um for participation for those that um were members at large that came on they
might want to continue on I know I'm the delegate from this board but I'm happy to when we revote somebody I'm going to vote for seconded. Thank you. Not tonight cuz I'm hot.
Uh but yeah, I in agreement. I think that's the best place to start and to advertise. Um because you you can't as a group of one, you can't vote, you can't do anything, you can't move forward until there's more people. Um my second
question is did we have a pathway for green communities this year that we've already we have a few projects that are grant funded about 80 to 90,000. We're actually putting the projects out to bid this next month. Yeah. So this would be
for the next cycle. Yeah. Yep. Okay. So um that's helpful context to know. Does anyone else have any comments before we wrap it up? No. I well okay I say no and I say it's a hard I appreciate you go
ahead I I so being a member of the um old colony school building committee I'm intimately familiar with net zero and I'm sure some of the discussion the five was small in old colony but um and I I the challenges for getting a new
building to net zero I mean you can do it but the initial costs so we we just had those discussions And it's the, you know, it's it's the heat pumps versus the um hydrothermal. Well, not hydrothermal, but the uh
geothermal geothermal geothermal. And yeah, you you can do it, but the upfront costs are huge. So, but you we we've got all that we've got all the studies and if you space it out over 30, 40 years, yeah, you're going to save money, but to realize the cost savings is spread out.
So again, it's it's do we want to ask the voters now to tack that on to the cost? I'm sure you guys probably had similar discussions on fire when you want how you going to heat it, heat pump so forth and and so you know I will say that I I support saving energy, but we
got to look at the trade-offs with your initial car. So with your saying, if I'm I'm reading it correctly, is that you're you're for kind of getting the low hanging fruit that's not going to have me up that absolutely minimal do that new and grants. Obviously the grants are
fantastic and I've always said publicly maximize grants. Grants the free money. So, but yeah, if we do uh if we are able to get that person and advocate, we can give them our list of priorities and our ability to to chip in or or not chip in
for those things. So, any other comments or questions? Well, I I sense that instead of saying yes, have Lisa come and speak to the select board. The select board is saying delegate this off
to the energy advisory committee once it's reconstituted. So from Lisa's perspective, she understands that the energy committee is active here in town because the grant activity she's administered. Um so
uh and the specific asked me was to ask the select board to ask invite her to speak to the board directly about the climate leaders program that's different from green energy separate from the energy advisory committee. Okay. So just
uh throwing a wrinkle on this promise to be smart and brief. So just leave it that you guys obviously you'll have better judgment and more you know so just leave it that so you could uh okay
cool well you know we can take that under advisement and then when we're reconstituting the board maybe we can have a joint meeting to get your purpose across where we if we have Lisa in because it if we have an energy advisory board they're going to be the the
experts in the in the room as opposed to you know, us being the advocates in the room. So, I think Lisa would probably want all of us in the same room. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that works. I'm just not familiar with the the new leader, so I'm going to look into that. So, thank
you for bringing that up this evening. Um, yeah, I'll get myself educated on that. So, there's a separate detail of part of the I left some papers in front of each name plate. There's a uh
thing called energy oil New England about 71% of the residents in the town like myself heat their house with oil and oil furnace so the folks I've been volunteering at middle sustainable middle and I raised up those the fact that I've been paying
$4.17 per gallon for every fill up and I thought because I had an energy done in my home and the auditor said well go check out here you find a better price that website is where you can literally go and pull up a whole list of prices from oil suppliers in different regions
of the state south of Boston. And then so if y'all are using oil to heat your homes for businesses, check it out. You can probably find I mean so New England oil, is it sponsored by any of the oil companies or is this just a nonprofit?
It's a nonprofit, but I don't know. Andrew, could you look into that so we could share it because we can't share it? Yeah, we can't share it if it's like a company sponsored thing, but if it's a nonprofit, we would probably share it out. For me, it would be at $150 savings. Yep. On the last Thank you, Mr.
Gregory. I really appreciate your time. You got it. Thank you. Thank you, John. Thank you. All right. Agenda item number seven, uh, discuss and possible vote to appoint Emily Surret as management analyst. Attached is Mr.'s letter of interest and
resume along with a memo from the town administrator requesting appointment. Andrew, would you like to speak to this? Yeah. So, um it's been kind of a long process since uh I think it was maybe December that Christina, the former assistant to the town administrator,
resigned. Um I didn't initially fund the position just because of the budget climate for this coming year. Uh eventually with the sport of select board, we funded the position. Um and we kind of reconstituted it as a management analyst. Um and so we put it out um for
applications. We received about a dozen. We interviewed a few people. Um I was pretty shocked that Emily actually ended up applying um just because of the caliber of her expertise on a lot of different issues. Um the committee loved
her. Um varied expertise in a lot of different fields. someone that's going to hit the ground running. Um really don't I don't think we'll have to train her on anything. Um she's done six years of procurement experience. Um budget,
basically everything. Um I know I get communities, green communities, um all the ARPA tracking. Yeah. Yeah. Everything. Um so when a lot of people tell me like Midaro is doing great, Emily is really one of the people in the engine room driving Midaro in my
opinion. Um, I sat in her position many years ago, so I know like what the position takes. Um, I think she'll be a real asset here. Um, I know there's a lot of stuff that kind of gets fallen through the cracks here just from just different projects that kind of span
multiple departments. I think she'll fill them no problem. Um, and so I think she'll be one of the top employees in Lakeville almost immediately. So you you've got a hype man here who's on it.
Um so everyone's excited. Um everyone's already been text me looking forward for her to come on. So um I'm Emily, you want to come up and say a few words on the spot? You can seat right over there. You can have a seat right over there. Okay. Thank you. It's chatty over there.
Sure. You might have to speak loud because there's a lot going on in the Sure. Well, thank you guys for having me today and for letting me speak. I'm really excited about this opportunity. Um, like Andrew said, I've been in Midaro for about five, six years now. So
excited to, you know, kind of see what kind of challenges Lakeville has and how I can transfer my schools over here. Few. No shortage of things you can sink your teeth into. Yeah. Great. Does anyone have any questions for Emily?
I just thought everything was pretty impressive. Um, you know, I know that there's a good team, you know, that was formed over in Middleboro and big driving force, sister community. Um, and we were very, um, you know, clear with our town administrator that, um, we
weren't going to leave him, you know, sailing a ship by himself. That we really needed to make sure that his office, our office was was full, it was whole. um so that we can do some really great things. So um I was really excited to to read what I read. Um your interest
here and yeah I mean yeah I a lot of the skill sets that you're bringing to the role are ones that we need desperately. This will be the most amount of procurement people that we've had in the town ever. So having that um coverage
from multiple people, having the experience in green communities um like like member Carboni said um having experience working uh and putting together things from multiple departments, it's going to be a really good change of pace from like cabbing
where Andrew just basically did the line share of everything for the last few months. And then just like we said, we've had a lot of turnover and um and it's it's just time to get some good solid team together and um and just very confident in your ability to be part of that team.
I think she'll be a real asset for Mike Ellis as well in the fin soon to be potentially finance director role. Um and I think there's a lot of growth potential for Emily in the future. Um, she's one of those people. I think if I win the lottery, as Mike likes to say,
she could be in charge tomorrow. It kind of is. So, um, it's exciting to have that. I think there's multiple people in town hall that can kind of fit that, which is exciting. Yeah, you you really got a great crew going. So, you're very lucky. Absolutely. Member Plunker.
I echo a lot of sentiments that have already been expressed. Definitely impressive record. Um, so you have my vote. I absolutely support Andrew on this recommendation and uh if he's willing to
stake his reputation on this then Yep. have at it. Very good. Uh I'd like to take a motion right makes motion. Happy to make a motion. Um I'd like uh I move that
I'll make a motion to vote the appointment of Emily Serret as our management analyst. Um let's see with Well, there's no appointment date. There's no appointment. Um um it would
be day would be what's the what's the start date? Start now, right? Um well, my final day minar will be the 10th of July. So really nice evening.
Yeah, the next day. So like July 11th, I think is the date. She had an appointment date as of July 11, 2025. I second. We got a motion in a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none.
Roll call I. Candy I. Carbon. I hunt I. Thank you. And welcome. Come on up. Come up for a customary sweaty handshake. And you start a new job on Friday. And do not trip over those wires. That is a
yeah facial study. Welcome to meet you. Welcome. Thank you. All right. Welcome, Emily. Thank you. Thank you. She's already navigating the course. I know. I know. She didn't trip. First first test.
Thank you very much. It's very exciting. Um we're going to move on to item number eight. So, for reasons that we just talked about in in the uh in the last few minutes, we had a lot of changeover and
turnover and and things that have been different from different boards. Um I wanted to get it on this board's radar that we still have not given goals and a review for Andrew. Um so, I want to make sure that we start in the goal making uh
process. Um it doesn't have to be completed today. I just want everyone thinking about it. But I thought the quickest way to align us is to pick a format to uh to review uh performance. Uh Andrew submitted a few uh formats for
everyone to look over. Um there's only one that I'm not in favor of and it was just because it was very subjective and the language was very very subjective and that was the one that Ari had had previously. I believe I think it was the last one in our our packet, but either
of the other two I I think were absolutely adequate. And um one of them looked a little labor intensive though. Um, so if we uh if we can get that portion out of the way, I'd like us to vote on that just to get
us all quite literally on the same page on how we'd like to think about giving evaluations to the TA. Madam Chair, I know that um this has
always been it used to be so much smoother years ago. Um and then I think when we shifted it got choppy. So I'd like to try to get this process smooth so that it's falls on the same time every year. Um so we're
prepared and then we can put it in our master calendar that um just you know I I'm always been one to vote the tool um to be used for the evaluation. So maybe that there's a a a milestone date that says,
"Okay, we're we're getting into or gearing up for the TA evaluation. Um this is the tool that we've used." So we would like to do like a timeline where it's like we set we do goal setting in July and then we do the evaluation in I think it needs to be
March. And that like sets that that tone for the year. I don't know if that's if that's what that's what I meant. But even the tool that we're using um you know if that's if we're happy with the tool that we're using. Do we have a
tool? No, this that's what's in front of us. So the tool the tool I I I labeled them A, B, C, D, and E. Um, the tool I believe that's currently
using is I think this one B should be the only one that says Lakeville. And um, hold on. Where is it? It's this one. There it is. D.
Um, so we just want to go over it in this order. The one that is currently out here. Um, there was some language in here um, regarding mental and physical stamina appropriate for the position
that I found kind of weird and offensive. Yeah. Uh, especially cuz I'm like, you know, creeping up there and I just don't have it anymore. So maybe that. But no, this seems very comprehensive but very
subjective. Um, and I think as a board and everyone's free to say they feel differently. I think it's more important to have some objective criteria on here that we can say we expected you to do X
and you did X instead of I liked the way you did X or I didn't like the way you did X. I think it makes it a little bit easier to measure. Um, because as Mr. Gregory said you have first have to measure something in order for you to really get your arms around it. Did
anyone have a preferred one that they want to talk about or one that they'd like to throw out right at the beginning? I'm not going to throw out the one we were using. Not a fan of the existing one. Yeah, I think I give a D to D. All
right. Um, so I think that one's easy. Um, oh, and I didn't even put this one on my list. Uh, the other one is E with the Glen Canon. Cannon. Um,
did anyone like this one? I mean, it is easy to check the boxes off. Yeah, I thought it was part of the other one. That's good. Um, yeah, this is a a this would be an easy one to do because it really
requires like the least amount of evaluation. Um, but I think in A, B, and partially C, there was some more, I don't know,
meaty. I I do like the ones that check the boxes of your prior year's goals and were those goals met and and where are we now. Um I'm I'm also a fan of a um a six-month check in. Yep. To see if any
progress is being made even if it's just brief. Um and and maybe a reminder, you know, in case they were procrastinator like me and trying to check the boxes in the final week.
Yeah, I I agree. And I thought C didn't really have that. C did not and um C was just a little light um as far as evaluation. So we've killed C and D. We
have A, B, and E still on. Does anyone have any of these three that they would advocate for? Or maybe it's a combination like I I I I don't think we have to take it in total
like I I like the part about, you know, ex did you make the goals, you know, did did that happen? I think that should be part of any evaluation we have uh regardless of what we check. Mr. PLA, member.
Um yeah, so I I would advocate at least three. I agree. Maybe the task is we go and we're not going to give Andrew 75 goals, but maybe we go through and we try to now every member identify
five or 10 most you in your opinion most important. Y and then we kind of merge them. We merge them together. We should have some sort of how many goals do we want? We want 50, we want 75. I don't know. Yeah, I I agree. I I think the
goals ties right in with the evaluation. And so what do we have? We have E, A, and B. I'd love to narrow it to two. I don't like B. Um I'm not Would everyone like to kick B off the island? Just this
one. All right. So I I like the simplicity of B, but I would add pages six and on from this one so that we have we add the accomplishments and
the goals and directions. You know, I don't I don't like any one of them singularly. Got it. But I would prefer a combination of two. I really like the rating scale in a
on the on the first page. Um not the cover page, the first page that really the ongoing portion instead of satisfactory. Mhm. Yep. I I found that to be like, you know, a really good indicator.
Um Carboni. Okay. So the this one is very generalized. A is very just generalized. This could be just taken off the shelf and said, "Here, we'll do this every we can do this right
now." Yeah. Whereas the one that Glen Cannon used was very specific to the year um the items that were listed in here. So like section one, this is just an example goals and objectives that the board of selecting um
border selectment goals and objectives for the town administrator. um ARPA was on here you know there was a water district with the stakeholders um the finance you so this was very specific so the goals were established and then through here
um the goals so I'll agree to a certain point I think the goal uh the structure was established nicely the actual goals were very subjective like good select board decisions and you know I was like
oh you're going Yeah, I'm not I'd like it to be more objective but very um you know where we focused I think I I agree there's generic goals and then there are some that are focused I'd like to see a mix you know we kind
of hey the good guy you know what and then we like the same food you know we set goals I don't know I'm just pulling it by the did he get this he said he's going to get this grant or whatever Right. Y he do it. I mean, so that's the
general I I would like to see a mix of that. So I would agree that whatever we do uh with what member Hunt said, um we would have 6 through 9 from Attached to it in some page six. Uh yeah, page 6
through 9 from document A because I think this is just a really good open format to add to anything. Agree. Y agreed. Agreed. Um and and the a six-month check-in gives him the
ability to let us know that maybe one of these goals isn't going to be met because I you know, we had multiple emergencies come up that needed my attention and things were bigger than than we thought. So, it gives him a little bit of an out, but we also know
where he's at. I've had to dedicate so much time to this at this particular point in time and I don't know that I'm going to get to that one objective on my list of objectives. Yep. You know,
stuff happens for sure, right? Yeah. It could be a sinkhole. So, would anyone have a problem with saying that we should use the structure of Eve? Maybe pare it down a little cuz this seems a little overwhelming. Um,
is it only five? It looks like 50. One, two, three. I guess it's only five. Um, for responsibility, staffing. I guess it actually does the job. It just looks
bigger than I would like it to look. But I would like to incorporate E, but use the rating system of A. I'm Frankensteining this. Um, I mean, if
we're if we're looking at this, is this easier for somebody to this sample comment? Sample comments. Oh, these are samples. Okay. So there is an opportunity on this vertical one for comments. It is sample. You're right.
Some comment. Um so maybe there's a box underneath each one cuz it it it less paper doing it this way. I don't know. Either way, I don't really have much preference whether it's horizontal or
vertical. But um I just liked on the the first one is about the goals and the objectives because they were very clear or excuse me um relevant to that year. Okay. So I didn't hear anyone say
anything that they wanted besides just it was very simple on B. So would you like we like to discard B and just focus on A and E. So Andrew, your first task. Um unless a select board member would
like to take these and make a a mashup of them. Um so thoughtfully go through and take the best of B to make sure it's part of A.
Maybe maybe I mean I'm not going to Is that something that Lacy would be able to help out with because she's involved in the I think that was actually a really good suggestion. So, we want simple simplicity and I'm I'm looking for just the
language on a way to address the concrete goals that we had set. Um, we want objective. Yep. But then we want to leave room for what the TA
thinks are his best accomplishments. That's what he's looking for. Yeah. He because and asked for my goals but my our goals he should have had the opportunity but what my boss thinks is important might not be like the same thing or something completely came up
different co happened like you know like no one could ever see all the challenges that that would be that's its own little arena yeah so I think having Lacy um come up with a
spirit of Eve so so for instance taking E. And when we look at page four of A where it says budget and financial management, somehow incorporate the verbiage of
number three, work with financial director to establish a realistic step-by-step timeline in there. Y I think that's so instead of the same. So instead of just generically budget or financial management, did were you were
you able to do this? and and yes, we check off those boxes. So, a and then we can come back and fill out those boxes. A blend of these two, right? Yeah. Right. I I think that's on point. All right. I like it. I'm going to reach
out to Lacy after um the meeting and I will um share on. Do you have these in just a regular email? Yeah. Yeah. We just do them as two separate like word attachments so she doesn't have to PDF. do all stuff. But I think this is a
really good start. Second part of what we're trying to do is what the goals are actually for Andrew. And my my thought tonight is to not have the goals stated, but to to say how we would like to state the goals.
Does that make sense? So, this is really simple and easy. Um, and it's just a a you know, a bulletointed format. Yeah. Oh, previous I missed that. The
previous previous um I think mine was pretty much the same. I think Rita's was the same. I think it this is kind of stood this test of time. Pretty generic. And we'd like to sprinkle in a few more specificities. Yeah. Yep. But um do you
guys like the criteria for one, two, three, four as headers? What these were created? What should be the headers? Like granted, we should have overarching themes where we're got
categories of stuff, you know, whether it be employee relations, whether it be public relations, whether it be project management, budget management, um, you know, overall grants. So are we at the point now that
we still need to include strengthen internal operations or are we just generically under internal operations with goals and then advanced town government infrastructure projects or just the heading infrastructure infrastructure? Yeah, I agree. I think it
um I like the FY23. You can see they have evolved. So I would lean more that you look at the second page. Yeah. It's now they've gotten rid of the strengthens though, right? They're just throwing a bunch of adjectives ahead of things. Yeah. But we continue with
continue to strengthen internal operations. Yes. That should be the goal. Strengthening of internal operations should be the goal anyway. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. There's no continue. It's a
It's like an ocean wave. Yep. Um but next time we get together um we have to do it in open session. We can't share between us what goals are. I'd love if everyone would come to the table with some goals for Andrew. So we'll we'll do
that for July cuz it's just the right time to do it. And we'll use this as a guideline, but not a hard and uh fast one. And I agree with uh member Plonca 23. uh looks more
specific, but I would like to even see it more specific like this one has fire station renovation due due dates times, you know, milestones, like something that's that's really pointing to action as opposed to,
you know, how how do I rate you on if it says fire station renovation? The only way I could rate you is if it was completely finished, but you know, maybe I wanted a quarter finished. maybe, you know, right? There was no measuring. There was no measuring. And that's that was one of my um my biggest um concerns
is like I don't how to measure this. Yep. Fiber network extension to where Yeah. You know, you know, maybe we can just be a little bit more specific. But um if you guys can pull um some categories of items together um and some
just some general and some really specific then we can put them all together as a working document. Okay. Um I would also if I can to ask Andrew to maybe make a list of himself for goals of what we've been asking you for the
last few months that we've probably not even kept track of. Um, and so if our next meeting is July 8th, right, I would probably put this on for July 8th. Um, if it's not too much of a
problem and I hate to that you have to be handled, can you send it just a quick email and say reminder, make sure you do your goals. Yeah. Yeah, that that would be great because I'm going to be about all about this for the
next, you know, couple of days and then I'm going to get shiny button something else. Fantastic. Not that I don't appreciate and we don't think you're a priority in or anything. Does anyone have anything else they want to add or we'll just bring it to the
next meeting and hash it out and if we need to go down to a vote on what goes on there? Yeah. All right, I think that's helpful. Love the alignment. I love the everyone's willingness to, you know, narrow this down really quickly.
Okay. All right. Next item up for bids. Hi, Chief. How are you? We're doing the same thing. We're doing the same thing. So, usually check. Yes. I don't know if it's
appropriate because I don't think it's on the agenda, but do you guys want a a power? If you've got one, we'll take one. Okay. Um, they unofficially provide an outage estimate of at least 2 hours from about 15 minutes ago. Um, they
asked that we not holding to that, but that's uh they said that's uh that's what they're shooting for. 2 hours from 2 hours from about uh 15 minutes ago. Um, we've stood up the pooling center. Um we have about five or six people that
have called interested in it. Um we're attempting to communicate through social media. Uh because we had one complaint that we weren't communicating out vigorously enough um the availability of the cooling center. Um we had um and I know you had posted that over the
weekend. You were all over that. So yeah. And uh right now we're having difficulty with the network. We're trying to communicate directly with our seniors, but there's a network issue that's blocking us from doing that. So, if we can't figure that out in the next few minutes, um the fall back is that code red the is it the I thought it was
the one call. There's a there's there's a one call through the COA, I think it's called. I don't know what it's called. Um but there they have a system for contacting their senior citizens directly. Um we also have uh code red available to us which is an opt-in system, not quite a reverse 911. Um but
there's a that's available to us. So if we if we aren't successful in restoring contact with the seniors, we can cast that net out. It's a little bit wider than we'd like because uh you know it's it probably calls every every house in every cell phone in Lakeville that's opted into the system. Well, I I think it's an important service that we're
offering to people because especially if you're on the top floor somewhere, it gets hot really quick. Yeah. Um we have a uh we've staffed our third ambulance and we're going on right now. We've had some people that unable to get out of their houses because they're unable to release their garage doors, things like
that. So, um PD's uh fielding calls. They've stepped it up. They're going around. Emily's checking on her seats. So, everybody's working. Yeah. Everyone reme remember there's there's a pole on your garage door down. The ones fortunately the ones that
are having that problem shouldn't be. Yeah. And that's pretty much everything. Um, so I'll confer with Andrew before we we get to the the code red thing. Some people get a little upset by it. Well, that they don't get any phone calls on uh that phone usually if it's
the house phone and and then it just rings incessantly for the cold bread. Thank you, Chief, with the update. Um Chief, I I saw it was the agreement was different than it had been in the past
for you as far as your reporting. It called it out specifically. Can you just tell me cuz I wasn't here for that contract like why it was slightly different than it was years. I've never been one to to memorize my contract but
uh I I'd have to review it to give you um so basically when I first got hired they referenced the strong chief uh statute um which voted was voted on by town meeting. Um, and it basically means that uh I answer to the select board.
Um, but I'm supposed to in in for for obvious reasons coordinate and work through the town administrator. Um, that's the kind of the the the concept or the the guide that I've been trying to live under. Um, sometimes it's easier than other times. Uh um, but that's kind
of how it's been done. And in the past the I've had TAS write my reviews. Um, I've never had the Slackboard write my review. Um, and I think it's been about 2 years since I've had it with you. Yeah. And that that's something we obviously need to address for everyone.
Um, so just wanted to talk about select board goal settings um as well as you know through the town administrator which which will will be. So last time last time last time you came before the board, we talked about like some hiring
that you were doing and some some practices that um the select board had voted on specifically um in regards to adding on new members and having was it having them pay for their training if they left beyond a a certain point? So,
we had some specific things as select board that we had set out as like policy and goals. We want to make sure that that continues on. Um I or you bring it to us if we if you want to go and and
say it's not working or or or something like you know where where you're opposed to doing something that was voted on because that should be something that is one of our guiding principles that even though we're not your official raiders,
we do have skin in the game as far as performance and expectations. No, that that makes sense. Yep. Yep. So, um I would like the as we get together next week, the select board to not only
come up with things for Andrew, but for the department heads too to go through Andrew. Um some of the things that we talk about in this meeting kind of stay in this meeting. Like a lot of times there's competing priorities, there's things going on. Um, I would love a way
to find a way to unite, you know, what happens here, what goes through there, and how it disperses out over the individual department heads. Um, I think it's important for everyone to be on the same page as much as possible. Um, Chief, I
know you're working technically fully staffed now and and you're you're going through that, but you're still having some turnover issues as well. Is that in my opinion, and the rest of the board can speak up, that needs to be just a
goal for the entire town about turnover? Um we've been pretty successful um in most departments about you know losing people um in quick succession. We usually have a lot of long-term people but I know that's not how it is in
police and fire as much um and then making sure that that's a priority. Can you speak to that because you've talked about that a little last time we're together. Um I'm very superstitious so I I hate to Don't jinx it. I hate to jinx the I mean the relative it's not really
stability it's relative stability that we've had enjoyed for the last six months. Um it could it could turn around tomorrow. I don't know. Um especially with some of the budget um questions that we had that was um may have exacerbated the problem a little bit more. I think the fear of losing their
jobs kind of brought people to maybe look around a little bit more. Um but to to to bring it back the the um the retention issue is kind of can't really be painted with a broad stroke. So there's two types of
retention issues. Uh call firefighters tend to be especially current qualified fighters tend to be uh they start out strong. They come in for a few years and then they either get hired by another department, get hired by us or kind of decide that that maybe
this isn't for them and they they they they start with a family or get another full-time job and they kind of fade away. It's very it's very unusual for a call firefighter to be on a department for 5 10 15 years. So you get a ton of turnover with qualified fighters and
that's typical with every department. um the but there's still things that we can do to improve that uh turnover. So um things things that we discuss internally are things like engagement. So if you have opportunities to get them involved
with calls uh if you have opportunities to take a step back and and insert some of your younger firefighters into situations that that might be a potential crucial situation for them. That's kind of what the internal dialogue's been to to have them have a
sense of, you know, being included, sense of purpose to to maybe, you know, light that fire where they eventually become that full-time asset for us. It's kind of become a feeder system more than a sustained augmentation to to to full-time firefighters. On the on the
full-time side, the the lack of retention is I mean, it's it's really there's a lot of variables in involved. Um some of it is some lingering reputation issues for the department that you know some troubles that we've had you know eight nine 10 years ago um
that you know really don't need to be rehashed but they they linger um those those things you know we've worked hard to overcome them with like our marketing and our public outreach things like that. Um some of it is you know they can leave and make more money somewhere else. There's uh you know that there's
an element to that as well. Some of it is is that there's um sometimes when you have a a when you've lost a lot of people, we did have a mass a pretty good exodus after about maybe eight year 8 nine years ago. Um you have when you have a very junior
fire department when you have that that lack of senior presence, that lack of like the unofficial leaders to kind of show people the way. um you have a little more uh a little more conflict, a little more mistakes being made, a lack of uh guidance for some of our
employees, which contributes to um lack of retention. Um so there's there's there's a lot of things that have contributed to it, but some of them are external like the the job market, the lack of paramedics. Um the paramedics can can go anywhere, they can negotiate
salary, they it's really unprecedented. It's the only time in my career that a private ambulance company is outpaying a fire department for a paramedic. So, it's really kind of a difficult environment to to operate in. Um, and so, and then there's mistakes along the
way, too. Um, you know, just uh you know, maybe we didn't uh read a person the right way and and engage them the right way. Not everybody's the same way. So, it's it's a bad hire. Well, not even a bad hire, but um sometimes sometimes somebody if we had the capacity to show
somebody a little extra attention or mentored them in a different way, um they could have been as successful. So, it's not all like, you know, there's there's there's obviously some you have to look in the mirror and and and be critical of your own leadership style and management things like that. There's always things that I can do better and
and the leadership of the department can do better. So, it's not all circumstance or or things beyond our control. Chief, I I don't want to interrupt you, but are you partnering with um our director of HR um on some of these challenges or is this something you're managing in house
more? Um it's not it's not really um something that I partnered. It's something I've discussed with her. Um in in a perfect world, I you know, you would hire uh you'd hire a third party to come in and do like an operations review and they would tell you how many
people you have uh how many people you need. Um how you're do you have the policies that you need? Do you have, you know, just an independent set of eyes looking at a department and and basically reviewing it and saying, you know, this is what you can do better. This is what you're doing great. And is that something you
think would help you just as an objective tool? The the thing is is is it's an objective tool if you hire the right people. Um, usually if there's a if there's if we're truly benevolent about our our motive, then it's a good
thing. um if if you're using it as an agenda to to like maybe break a union down or or break the administration down or something like that, then it's a bad thing. So, if we're all in agreement that, you know, we want to do this to to, you know, to improve the department within the the constraints of our resources, then it's a great thing and
I'm not opposed to it. Um I I don't think anything bad can come from it. I might not might, I would learn things from it. We did have success at one point having a third party in. You and I worked together years ago and we did have success. Yeah. It's not a bad thing. Yeah. Um I wouldn't be opposed to
it at all. And it's it's one thing for me to tell you what the problems are, but because I having somebody on the side that's very disconnected from from this whole town and all the emotion that's in involved in it and and the personalities and the
the pride and all that stuff gets put aside and for them to tell us what we can do better, what we're doing, okay? Um it's at the end of the day, it's it's a it's a life-saving mission. Yeah. So if we if we if we become better at protecting people, saving lives, it's absolutely worth the investment. That's
that's my opinion. I think that's a really great suggestion. Andrew, would you mind very much researching and if I can find her name like I I had a a person a few years ago back in 2019. She she's the one that had
the vocabulary. She had Yes. Yes. Yes. She could make me blush. Yes. She was very uh earthy. I've worked with uh I've worked with MRI in the past. They did one on my previous fire department. Um a lot of the
recruitment places also do operations evaluations for recruitment best practices that that type of stuff. Exactly. So I don't know what it costs. I don't know how to fund it. Um but uh I just don't think it would be a bad a bad thing to do. Okay. I I think that's a
really good takeaway and suggestion. So, um, so we can all be aware of what the issues are and and where we can help, you know, and it's to me it's it's it's I don't know this person. I don't have any, you know, I'm not defensive. It's
not like they're signing my paycheck and I'm not taking their, you know, it's it's uh it's it's it's kind of like a it's this credible person or it's credible organization that comes in and does a review and and points out they they're very tactful about it. They don't usually humiliate anybody or or or
make anybody out to be a saint. No, but it's a measurement. It's a a measurement to to help. I would I would welcome it. It it could be cuz to be honest, like my if I had goals set for myself, my goal right now is to is to create a structure
for for life after I leave. Like that's, you know, is succession planning. Succession planning. That's what I want to develop. I want to So, you just jumped into my next question. Like if you had goals because I know you didn't have any goals last year or the year before, right? Did you have goals set
because you didn't have reviews? Yeah. So I had goals I just they weren't articulated. What is it that you are your goals even though it's not our goals obviously what your goals for your department would be? So when they hired me um seven years ago, they asked me how
would would I know if I did a good job at the end of my time here in Lakeville and I said that you wouldn't be hiring from outside. I said that I would develop I would have a fire department that would develop to uh a strong candidate, somebody that would best serve the town internally and that could
uh put any outside candidates to shame. That was my goal. Um I said it during the interviews. Um, and so that's my goal going forward is to create the structure within my department to not only fill that next my seat for the next when I when I finally hang it up, but
also the second seat in potentially a third seat if if uh resources permit. And I think that would make it creates competition within the department. Um, it creates healthy competition. I think um it uh it motivates people to improve
themselves and to to build their resume and and develop and and I people doing that now. Um and so it'd be great to see those people that that are doing that be rewarded someday um with the positions that they deserve. So that's kind of my
succession planning is is that's big for me. The other thing is to navigate um the not to change gears if you guys do if you have any questions about that. Um to me like and I'm not it's very difficult me to throw this out there but we you know we're very like the town
we're very we operate thin administratively. We're doing training, we're doing fire inspections, we're running around doing all this stuff. Um, it would be really really helpful if we had like an administrative uh type officer position that could not only help the it would be almost like a
middle management between above the shift commanders that could be used to offset overtime by filling positions um during the day um but to also assist uh the deputy and I and our administrative work. it would be uh it'd be a godsend to the department operationally and it
would also speak to that line of succession. So there wouldn't be a as much of a drop off when people start to shuffle into the into the the new position. So for me that's more of a like a a wish than it is like a a goal if it if it is a goal like what are you
doing now to transition that to someone? Um and what are you doing in the interim? Well, so there's a lot of stuff that I don't have to do because I have uh people that are motivated to improve themselves and they're doing all the right things. Um but as far as um what
I've done is I've tried to be really trans parentent with uh my budget. Uh I've you know you notice the deputy goes to the budget meetings. Uh she sits in with the town administrator when I meet with the town administrator. Um so the point is and I say just like so I kill
over and die tomorrow. um you step in, you take over, and you don't miss a beat. Um that's just the that's the way you have to be um in the mission above all else. Um and so I want her to I want her to have a a feel for how how how the
the place is managed because it also makes it easier for me to be a good manager as well because a lot of a lot of people might be critical of Andrew and his job as a TA, but until you've sat in that TA spot, you really don't know what he's dealing with. You don't have his perspective. It's very easy to be critical of a police chief or a fire
chief and and I was as a deputy. I was a pain in the butt as a deputy um because I didn't know what the job was and when I sat there like it. So the the best I can do is pull back the curtain and share as much of the experience as I can. So so there's less of a surprise
when when it's time for for the deputy to step up. So you creating things like standard operating procedures documents. That's all in place already. But um and a lot of that too is there's a I developed a template and so the people that are most talented in whatever the topic is they actually write those those
uh those SOGS u for the department of policies things like that and they write them they write them through me. Okay. So, so that's that's kind of a big one for me. Um, is that is that uh succession planning um because I think uh I think
it benefits I I I worked for a fire department that has um I worked with uh I came up through with with a bunch of guys that there's five of us or six of us that are currently chiefs in different departments, which is like unheard of. Um, and it was all because so much stuff was delegated to us all
the time. And we we we were we were basically mentored by a guy, a chief named Ron Chase, uh, who brought us up, really given us a lot of responsibility, and it shows where we have chiefs all over the place now. Um, so I'd like to be that kind of a a leader as well for
for our people. Okay. Well, um we're going to task Andrew with getting uh reviews together and and uh for all the department heads um just like we're tasked with starting his review process and starting it with goals. Um but I'm
really appreciative of the time you're here today and discussing it. Everyone, everyone gets a turn here um to discuss it because I thought it would be important that we needed a reset because it's been kind of disconnected. It is. And I guess the only other goal I really
have is to I I want to be I want to see this fire station completed in the most efficient and cost-effective way possible. And I'm really learning a lot about, you know, some of the uh the less transparent parts of this whole process.
And my goal is to kind of not get dragged into the muck and and stay stay on the keep my eye on the prize and push through and drive through as much as I can. Fantastic. Any members have any questions for the chief? Anything they'd like some clarity on. Um, at the end of
the day, it's going to be Andrew that's doing all the work, but just to let you know that we're part of the team. Um, and that we're we're always here to listen when you've got something going on. Um, as as you go through Andrew
first and then if it's becomes wider, you guys bring it to us as a as an action item for us to work on, too. When I start developing goals with Mike and then everyone else, all department heads, do you want me to bring that back? Yeah. It's not that we're going to approve them. We just like to see them.
Like I I think it's important that we know um that we know what you're looking out for or you know and if we're not in alignment, we're going to tell you like next time make sure you do this or next time you make sure you do that. Um and then we'll get in a rhythm uh after the
first set. It's just the first set that becomes kind of Are you guys looking for um a standardized rating tool for all the department heads or or specific to a career? I'm gonna defer to Andrew on that because we have one and I'm not a
huge fan. Yeah. The one if it's the same one I used it was like it was okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was there was nothing special about it. We have a pretty robust chief's network. I mean I can communicate out ask for what their what their reviews are done on to just to collect them and see what's out there.
Yeah. It's going to do. All right. Yeah. But no one's going to My ultimate goal is to bring like a big document together. I mean, there'll be different reviews internally, but I want I want to make a big I call it a strategic plan for departments. It's probably what it's
going to be called and like a binder of y what everyone's doing. It'll be I will say so many people came to me and commented like why don't we see the department heads more like you know why aren't we you know knowing what they're
doing or you know what's going on and it was a good call out um and it it's something that we should be meeting with you guys more regularly and and spending time with each of you and making sure um during the budget process that you have a chance to talk about what you're most
proud of every year. Like I think a lot of people just did it organically through the process as we were going through. They're like, "Oh, this is what we've done. This is what we've done." But the people at Lakeville don't get to hear that. Like I will tell you my most shocking one sitting in there and I
think I know a little bit about the town is all the roads that Frank, you know, had on his plan. I was like shocked how many actual roads he had on his plan this year. That's important. the people of this town don't really know how what we're doing with the this the resources
that we're given and I want to make sure that they know that we're doing our best to take care of it. Um not to mention know the people um behind it. Uh Chief, you do a great job of having your open houses. Um you do a great job of getting out um in in uh with people. Not all our
department heads are are that's not a strength for everyone. Um, we should we should have people flex that muscle more often so people feel more comfortable reaching out to people. Like I'm sure they feel comfortable reaching out to you because you have a social media presence. Um, they probably feel like
they know you. So um, those type of things are important and um, we should be part of it to uh, help facilitate it at least. was kind of a necessity for us because I think we had a reputation for not being the busiest department and not
doing a lot and we needed so much so many resources and it was the only way that to get any I mean town meeting the only way you get town meeting on your side is to communicate what you need and what you're doing and so it was kind of a necessity for us. I mean but the the catch 22 is now it's expected all the
time as our as we kind of start to achieve a reasonable level of resources people expect you to continue your outreach. So it's so it's almost a you know it's it's it's a I don't mind doing it. I enjoy doing it and it benefits the the department but uh you know as we the
need is less we I think the expectation is that we continue that level of outreach. The the open houses I think are the best tool. I don't know about how anyone else feels, but I think being able to meet people in person and meet the firefighters and, you know, for for you show um not showcasing um the
conditions of, you know, uh of the the place you're in right now as compared to, you know, what we're trying to achieve. Um I I think those things have gone a long way in order for you to build bridges uh with people. And I think it's a real strength of yours um
that you brought to the role here. Um, I don't have any more questions. Like I said, this is just a the beginning of the beginning. Um, and trying to get everyone on a schedule for timely reviews because everyone deserves to know where what they're doing, where they're at, all of those things. And
setting some really good goals for everyone through Andrew. Um, and making sure that everyone's aligned. I think I've talked quite enough. All right. I'm good.
Thank you. Thank you. I'll text any updates. If you don't hear from me, that means nothing's changed. Nothing's gotten better. I'll text any chief. Um, does anyone need a break or are they good to go? I'm just checking in on home. Yeah, I'm
I'm waiting to see. I'm very Everyone crying about being hot. Um, agenda item number 12. Yep. Yep. Agenda item number 12, discuss
and possible vote to approve Department of Public Works supplies award and catch basin cleaning award to Surges. Um, they always seem to have the uh the best rates around. Um, they're a large consortium um that we get the best deals
from. Does anyone have questions about um what we're trying to achieve here or why we've chosen surges? If I hear no questions, I'll take a motion. I'll make a motion um to
award the DPW suppliers. Um either way, what? Oh, either way. Um, I would like to make a motion to award the bids as presented in the surges DPW supply awards for the period of July 1st, 2025
to June 30th, 2026. Um, as presented, second a motion to second. Roll call vote. I Carbone I. Hunt.
I'd also like to make a motion um to award the catch basins cleaned um and sumps measured Is that the right word? I don't know. I'm just reading what was put in front of me. Okay. U measured to Roadway Maintenance Services, Inc. at
$19 each for contents in town and $344 each for contents out of town. I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. Motion a second. Roll call vote. I candida I. Carbon I. I.
That's it. Right. Yep. And then we'll just have to sign. Yep. I have a stamp on mine. Have a stamp on yours. Did I? You got the official copy. I do, too. Oh, you do? Oh, good. I'm not special. No, I do. Oh, we all
have it. Okay. Got it. I didn't know. We're all stamped. Is it in the side folder? Okay. Excellent. Um item number 13, discuss and possible vote to approve paper and office supplies uh to ser again for the same reason. This is just
the paper and office supplies attached to the award sheets for the paper and office supplies awards from surges. I'll take a motion. I'd like to make a motion to award the office supplies um surges contract to WBM Mason uh company Inc. of
Brockton mass for 2-year period commencing on July 1st 2025 as presented seconded. I have a motion in the second. Roll call vote. Plug I do I. Carboni. I I. I'll also make a
motion to award the paper supplies uh surges contract to Spruce Home of Parkland, Washington for one-year period commencing on July 1st, 2025 as presented. Second. I have a motion and a second.
Roll call vote. Plug I. Candido I. Carboni. I pie. I think this is the first time I haven't seen the view Mason in. It's caused a lot of conversation amongst members. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is crazy. 30 year run. First
I've seen since 2016 when I started. It's a big deal in the paper community over here. I'm starting to question myself because I'm so shocked. Item number 14
which we have across 14 and it's 15 on mine 15 m so if had my quick question Andrew could you explain the southeastern regional service group are they like consort are they consortium of I think it's 26 or 27 towns and cities
in the southeast region leverage our individual power to buy Yep. Um they do it for like different DPW. There's the big the biggest one is the um paving. So that's like elite, right? I see they're doing paving and now they're doing office supplies. They do a lot. Yeah. I
think it's like a 30% reduction over actually trying to get it on their own. So it could be anything from paving. Yep. Yep. And we pay about 4,000 a year to be a part of it. So the cost savings are pretty big. Oh, I didn't. So, we pay
membership fee type thing. How much is it? I was going to say that's Tatons. Lakeville is 2,000. Yeah. I was like, I was going to say, wait, that seems high, but yeah. And that that kind of helps defay the administrative costs. Yeah, cuz the member communities hire a uh an
administrator that actually runs the bids and gets all the contracts together and make sure they're doing a good job. That's what I'm doing in my next live. No, it's a good gig. Thank you. Uh, agenda item number 1415. Uh, discuss and possible vote to appoint Jen Gregory
to Energy Advisory Committee. Um, we don't have an energy advisory committee that is appointed with other members right now. Correct. There are no other members cuz their membership expired. I think that's correct. They start they expire on July 31st. So, would anyone
mind if we held this vote and readressed the charter and changed it to five members instead of seven and then voted people in? Okay, I'll table this. Yeah, I'll table this so we can start fresh and make sure we have everything we're
looking for. Um, I'd also like to add some things in there possibly about it, you know, green communities and some non some things that have been non-specific on who's uh working with them and going forward um with them that we should
probably just put a little bit more thought into and less general. All right, tableabling that. Um item number 15 sl um discuss and possible vote to appoint Nancy Gates to the ZBA
um bylaw advisory review committee. Um reading into the record um to select board from conservation commission June 3rd, 2025 um zoning bylaw review advisory committee. The commission voted at their May 27, 2025 meeting to recommend Nancy
Yates be appointed to the ZBA um committee as a representative for the conservation commission. So um I had a chance to watch some of that meeting um and there was a discussion in that meeting that said someone from the select board's office had reached out
and asked Nancy to be the chair. Um, after talking with Andrew, um, I I don't believe that's the case and that's not something that we would do. That would be, uh, interfering in other boards. um it it would be inappropriate and um I
just wanted to make sure that anyone hearing it from that meeting knew that there was a miscommunication somewhere because um as far as I know um that communication um or that specific request that it be Nancy Gates was never
something anyone from the TA's office or the select board had reached out for. So just wanted to throw that out to everyone. It's very important that everyone knows we're being as impartial as po as as possible on these and it's really the individual committees driving
the votes for who sits on this um zrack. And if I can madam cherry also um we had watched that meeting as well um because that's what I do. I watch other meetings at other boards and committees and yeah,
it's good because I learn a lot. Uh but it's also that um with this um appointment that um Mark Mitten who is our conservation agent would be also accompanying um the delegate to the meetings as well,
Zebra meetings. So would that be two people or would how would that work? Um it wouldn't be two people. It would just that they would it was just that he would accompany a non voting a non person just I like to
watch meetings. Do you like to attend meetings? Okay. Yeah. Um would anyone like to make a motion? I'll make a motion um to appoint Nancy Yates to the zoning bylaw review advisory committee. Seconded. Motion and
second with the term to expire July 31st 2026. Thank you for catching that. Thank you. Thank you. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Roll call. I can do I. Carbon I. Hunt I.
Uh item number 17 16 um discuss and possible vote to appoint Dia Murphy to the town hall building reuse committee. Attached is the application from Dillia Murphy to serve on the town hall building reuse committee. Dileia is a
longtime member of the historical uh commission. Is there anything anyone um I don't think no deal's not here. Um, was Steelia asked to attend? Are any are any of the people on the agenda alerted
or generally we alert them? Asked to attend. Okay. I just want to make sure we're following that practice to give people a chance to have a chat if they're if they so want. Um, I'll make a motion um to appoint
Dillia Murphy to the town hall building reuse committee. Term to expire. I don't know that we did terms to expire, but I will do terms to expire July 31st, 2026. Second. I got a motion in a second. Roll
call. I do. Harboni I. Hunt. I 1718 uh discuss and possible vote to accept the resignation letter from Eva June White from the council on aging board attached as a letter from the COA board chairperson and the resignation of Eva
June White. Um, we never like to see anyone um, step away from boards and committees, but we understand that life changes and goals change and we're very appreciative of all the work that Eva Jun has done for the board and for the town. Um, does
anyone want to Yeah. And I will again I will reluctantly make a motion uh to accept the resignation letter from I love it. June White from the Council on Aging Board. Effective immediately, I believe.
Yes. Seconded. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Oh, hold on. June 4. No. Um, which the term expires on July 31st, 2025. Her last meeting would be June 4th, 2025.
So, as effect of a meeting says June 5th on the letter. Okay. Then we'll go with June 5th on the motion. June 5th. motion and second. Uh, roll call I and I.
And another one. Uh, discuss and vote to accept the resignation letter from Elizabeth Nash um from Open Space. Um, Elizabeth Nash has been on here as long as I can remember. Um, when I moved in town, I know Elizabeth Nash was on this
board um or on a board. Um she's been on six years for the open space committee. So I'm very appreciative of all the work she's done with natural protecting our natural resources. Um and I'm hoping that if circumstances change, she may
serve Lakeville again. Excellent. Excellent um contributor. Yes, we have some stellar pleasant we have some stellar people that volunteer at our town boards. So, I guess I'll reluctantly make a motion to accept uh the
resignation letter from Elizabeth Nash from the Open Space Committee. Um just says June 17th is a Stampin. Okay. As of June 17th, 2025. Seconded. Motion and a second. Roll call
vote. Block I. And I Carboni I. Hunt. I. [Music] Next item on agenda item 20 19 discuss and possible vote regarding
request to use town pavilion for a wedding ceremony August 23rd 2025. So attached is a request from Lucinda Perry to use the pavilion at the old townhouse for a wedding ceremony for her son and future daughter-in-law on August
23rd. She has submitted a request to use town property form release of claims indemnity to hold harmless agreement which is attached. Mrs. Perry is also requesting the waiver of the certificate and insurance. Um Andrew attached the town property use policy which allows
the waiver by the select board vote. So in theory I think this is fantastic. I'm happy to see people using our resources. Um but it made me realize how absolutely unprepared we are to deal with um that
situation and how it could impact other people using that area and um all of those other things. So we have some tremendous spaces that we're building and we're planning to build in the future. this space is this
part of the historical commission's domain like how you know how are we are we just saying this it falls under the select board as a town property like how are we so the select board overseas along with
the historical commission the old town home town townhouse so I think it's like kind of an extension of that um couple few different people have it like cultural council has had a little bit of a say in this. Historical does. We do. Um it's a it's open. It's not like it's
an enclosed area. So like these pe anyone could show up and just have an ad hoc wedding. They can. But do we have any events that are town sponsored or or something that one of our boards, committees, commissions wanted to use it for for the days? Because I if I
remember there's an order of operations that we that we have things in event. So, did we already check and make sure that everything is clear with all boards, committees, and commissions um for that time? So, we did. And it's about like 20 It's like a 20 minute long
ceremony. It's like a funny one. Yep. But I I definitely think we need to Are our bathrooms up and running? Any day? Not technically yet. No. Okay. So, I didn't know if that's problematic like having because Yeah, it's going to be at
night, right? Or is it 10? Yeah. 3 to 5:00 to 5. They didn't request the town house. They just kind of requested fill in itself. So I wouldn't approve the town home. Yeah. I mean that's I think we'd have to have
a person there to do that. And then I think that you get you get into who pays for that and but at the same time it is a really great resource that we could use but we would probably want to maybe monetize it just to cover expenses like
clean up all of those type of things. We just want the sport to be very cognizant that even though this is a a fun thing and a and a great thing, it can be um out of control sometimes and not for this event at all. I'm just saying if we don't have specific rules. I was very
happy to see the use policy. Um I there's nothing in there about like the bathrooms in the use policy cuz we don't have it. So it would need to be updated. But do we have trash for everyone? Do we have like like we're going to have to do
stuff to support this? Um because there's going to be, you know, a gathering of people where there's not a gathering of people. So, we usually have the DPW go and clean up before and then we have the DPW come and after or volunteers for various committees. I
just don't know, you know, how that works in this setting. And granted, there this is a public spot. anyone could do. Anyone could go there and and just show up. Um I just want to make sure that we're using the facility in the right way. Yeah. I think
currently they've probably just got to be addressed on a case by case basis, you know, and in this situation, you know, long-term resident looking for some access with no one else added to the the plan other than the guests.
Yeah. There was one line in the request um that said with no public access. Y I wasn't sure what that meant. I didn't either. And um because that to me says private event and that's different than
what this is. This is a event held in public. Um but this was my concern with no public access. Yeah. I'm not sure how that will logistically work to stop someone from
Yeah. just hanging around. Yep. So, um I I would like to approve that, but I I will not approve it with that language. Yeah, we can certainly condition. Okay. Would I like everyone to stay out of the way so someone can get married? Yes. Do
I want to see other people in their wedding photos? No. Um, but I I don't know that we can limit public access. Um, parking would be, I'm guessing, at the old town hall. Townhouse library
would be there, too. Library. Library. Yeah. Okay. Um, so she's willing to provide further details as needed to support the request. So, I guess we're going to need a few more details. I would just re reiterate with her it's
not like a reception like not setting up like food and drinks and Yes. And then you know making sure there's no beverage service and and things of that nature and decorations like I don't I mean the pavilion is
you know I don't just I got you. It's paviliony. Yeah it's paviliony unique. I just, you know, I mean, some people might want to decorate a little bit. Maybe they bring pillars and, you know, Yep. bring them something up.
Well, we get a little more info. Yeah. And aggressive the next time. Yeah. Would you mind very much reaching out, Andrew? Um, and like I said, I am in support of uh having people use the space. I just want to make sure we're very clear and deliberate about, you know, I didn't talk to her directly, but
Tracy did, and it it kind of sounded like whatever whatever we need we need to do, just let us know. Yep. And I'm appreciative of that. So So there's two votes here on this this evening. I'm I'm guessing one is to um support the request to use the pavilion. The second
is to wave the certificate of insurance. So, did we reach out um you reached out to um is it all insurance still the name? Did it change? I don't know. I don't think so. Okay. It's like World Insurance. Yeah. Yeah. It's a funny
name. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say I think it changed. Yeah. Um and they said they had no concerns about waving for an event like this. Yeah. and he said due to the nature of this kind of event, he's he'd be fine with us waving it, but he he did say we should have a policy in
the future for any kind of small events or whatever. I mean, that's a hard that's a hard thing to be like just 20 people, but it's like you don't want to have that waved at it. But well, I'll make a
motion um to approve the request uh to use the town pavilion for a wedding ceremony August 23rd, 2025 from 3 to 5:00 p.m. Would you amend it to say without the provision of no
public access? or I think that can be communicated through the town administrator, but I mean it's up to the board. I'd like to see a little more clarification from her prior to
prior to making a motion on this. I think it should be tabled until we know a little bit more from her. Would you? But that's just me. Is there a second or would you like to withdraw your motion? There's no second. The motion does not a
motion to um can certainly invite her in. Yeah. To a meeting. Yeah. Just a good a quick conversation is is probably from you is fine. I would like it directly through you. Okay. All right.
Tabled. Um, I was very happy to see that office building property use form though. I didn't I didn't know that existed. Discuss and possible vote. One day beer and wine special food truck um, Food
Truckfest America LLC July 12, 2025. Uh, attaches an application for a 1-day beer and wine license for Lakeville Food Truck and Craft Beverage Festival being held at Anchor Conway Farm, 33 Southwork Street on July 12, 2025 from 11:00 a.m.
to 6:00 p.m. So moved. Second. I have a motion in the second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. Roll call. I I carbon I punt I did you have this item? Yeah, I do. Did
we just do that one? No. That was That was Rhode Island Road. Island Road. Discuss and possible vote on request to connect Taton Water to four Water Street. Residential 3-bedroom home max 330 gallons per day. Demand 330. Size of
service 1 in line. [Music] Again, map in a little bit more detail. New home, existing home would be fantastic on the water connection application.
So, this is the owner's name. Flip Flex LLC. What? I don't understand when I was reading that. Flip Flex. So, it says it's a residential three-bedroom home,
but it is a LLC that owns the home. Still a residential home. If I remember correctly, looks like it is the second house in on the left on Water Street, the former
Reynolds, Howard Reynolds residence, it appears. Okay, just to give a little bit of info. So, we have 330 gallons. Okay.
One in size. Okay. Um, I'll make a motion to approve the request to connect Hton Water um for Water Street. Second. Second. Uh, do uh any other questions? Any comments?
Hearing none. Roll call. I do. Carboni. I hunt I. Uh, next is subcommittee and select board delegate update dates. Member Funka, Old Colony Regional Revoke Building Committee. We've not had a
meeting since last meeting. Got it. Member Carboni with the Fire Station Building Committee. I have no updates. We have a meeting tomorrow evening. Member Planka with the technology advisory subcommittee. Yes. Uh, good
news. I am I have a meeting posted for next Tuesday. It's happening. Committee members have been notified. Excellent. Great. Feel free to ask Andrew to post some stuff on the website in order to
not the website, the uh Facebook page um in order to get the word out if people want to watch. Oh, sure. Yeah, I I know. Oh, I don't know if Lake Cam's going to cover that. What was that? I don't know if Lake Cam's going to cover that. Why wouldn't
they? They didn't do the prior two because they were subcommitted. I mean, yeah, probably going to be a huge deal. Okay. I didn't know if that was made. Again, the first two weren't covered. I don't know. Maybe cuz we're a subcommittee. I like maybe it's an informal thing. They don't cover
subcommittee. Maybe people aren't excited about watching a technology advisory subcommittee. But maybe it's not. You know, popcorn watching. Put a new request. It's going to be at the police station. police station. Fantastic. Better than us.
All right. Technology advisory subcommittee and member Carboni communication and community outreach citizen academy subcommittee. I have nothing to report at this point. Um I'm just happy to to share that the economic
development committee was being planned. So this is next on the the agenda. Yes. Fantastic. Uh any new business to bring before the board? I have a couple.
First one is um Tom Sakano resigned from the cable advisory okay committee. Um so that's a five member board. There's only three members. Now they don't have a quorum.
So, um, negotiations are starting fairly soon. So, we have to obviously post that vacancy and try to find somebody. Yep. My understanding is they don't they don't typically have a whole lot of interest in it. So, we'll see. Yeah.
It's not not like a big item for people to jump on. Um, if if we do, I can go on. Yeah. you you have a history with negotiations after like 10 years with
burn. Um and then the other one is um I sent I think everyone has it a water connection application to Cleopond Park. So when we did the the initial project the water line I guess no one included
the actual uh meter water meter. Oh I don't know why. Um, so this is to get that. Is there a fee? Uh, there is. It's a minimal fee, but we still have money left over. Okay. From
co uh the harbor funds, so it'll just come right out of that. It's still in our account, so that shouldn't be a problem cuz right now we don't have any running water there. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a nice underground pipe with nothing in it. So, do we make a motion to We do and then we'll ratify it
at the next meeting. All right. I'll make a motion to approve the city pond water connection uh for 49 Clear Pond Road for 3,000 gallons per day. Second. I have a motion in a second. Any discussion?
Hearing none. Roll call. Look. Candy. Do I? Carbon. I Any other new business to come before the board? Madam Chair. Yes. Um apologies for my mistake. We did have a meeting. We're going back to the old colony school building committee. Oh. Um
we had yeah we did meet on June 10th so it was two weeks ago. Uh and we finalized um um it was more disc finalized design process. We're in the final stages now. Um and we we selected two in terms of
our energy um designs. We selected two um heat pumps and then also as primary heat pumps um on the roof and then as backup and geothermal. So they're going to it's all heat pumps like Yeah. Yeah.
It's all it's all electric. So and with geothermal it's a backup. So they're going into the final um pricing now coming and they're going to come back. Uh we're not meeting during July. Uh we'll have a meeting in early August. They're going to have the final two, you
know, with with energy is obviously the biggest one of the bigger um contributing factors of cost. Uh and then by the end of August is when they're going to have the final final uh package on what will be presented to
be voted on. Can you share that with Andrew and then we can share that out to the public? Oh, in August. Yeah. Oh, that that yes, they they're gonna go we'll get it first and then they're going to communicate that all to the TAs. Okay. Uh yes, they they will be they'll be looking for Great. So,
apologies for that. No, nothing. Thank you for the update. Um old business. Um we have to ratify the vote for Noel um Reu for the appointment to the CPC for the
three-year term. Uh, we voted on it at June 9th meeting. June 9th, June 7th, June 9th. We voted at at an earlier meeting. Um, and we needed to ratify the vote. All right. So, I'll make a motion
to ratify our previous vote to appoint um Noel Relu uh to the CPC, which is the Community Preservation Committee, as the park commission's representative. um for an ex with the term to expire on
July 31st, 2026. Second motion in a second. Any discussion? Roll call vote. I can candid I von I uh update from the town administrator on
planning board support needs. I mentioned it under my TA report, but we are going to bring our candidate forward for approval on July 8th. Okay. And you feel strongly about this candidate as a good fit for the role and for the needs of the town? Yeah, I think she'll be a
good fit for sure with the the group. Yeah, very good. Um, ratify the vote for Jeffrey Youngquist to the ZBA bylaw for the Zrack. Um, we got an official
letter. Um, before we did not have an official letter stating the vote of the board. We have an official letter now. Oh, we do. Yes. Was it in the pack any voted before the same thing?
So, no, we we had a a memo from the chair, but we did not have an official vote from the ZBA appointing. It was just a memo of the chair because it was the only person that expressed interest given the role. Okay. So, I haven't seen a memo. it. Yeah, it didn't make the
packet, but I've I mean, I've seen it. I've seen it as well. I think it's in digital form. I think it got emailed to us. I think John sent it to everybody. Yes, it's in your email. Okay. You can hold off on it if you guys want to wait, but it is in your email. Okay. Um, I'll
make a motion to ratify our vote to appoint uh Jeffrey Youngquist as the representative from ZBA to the zoning bylaw review advisory committee with a term to expire July 31st, 2026.
Second. Uh, discussion. Um, Mr. Youngquist um has something that I would believe is a uh a potential conflict that I would like to see filing for uh a conflict of interest forms so
he can clearly um let everyone know. Um I think I expressed it at last meeting. I didn't see an updated form, but I think that just everyone that has any conflict should be filing that yearly. Not even a real conflict, but even
perceived conflict should be filed. Um, just to make sure that everyone is being as transparent as possible. [Music] Uh, motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none.
Roll call. I do I. Uh, next select board meeting dates is July 8th is our regularly scheduled next select board meeting date. Um,
Andrew, do we already have a place for this meeting? I believe it's at the police station. Okay, we'll confirm. Um, I know this is probably just my feelings, but I would love to have one time where we at least use the historic um, townhouse uh, if
it's not inconvenient to other members, you know, using it for other functions. Um, it's just a really nice space and if it works for Lakeam as well, right, Madam Chair, the second meeting in July 20, is it the 22nd? Do we have a second
meeting in July or do we talk about that? I don't think we ever officially scheduled it. Yeah, I think we had like a little bit of time off that we had scheduled. You feel good about that? I approve. Seconded. Yeah, I think I wanted to have a little
gap for everyone. Yeah, you mentioned that a bit later in July. People deserve a little bit of a gap. Um, usually the the first meeting in July is pretty heavy um with appointments and um with cleanup uh for the previous year. Um, so
we usually pretty much get everything that we need to at that juncture. Um, if we have something outstanding, um, I would probably and we had to get together, I would suggest a quick remote meeting cuz it's probably going to be a two-minute meeting if we had to, but
yeah. So, August 5th is what I Okay. But yes, consider it your uh, vacation unpaid uh, correspondence. Um, oh yeah,
letters of interest. Okay, letter of interest. I'll read it in for the record. Um, from Lillian Drake Town Clerk, uh, dear Miss Drain, my current term as a member of the Council on Aging Board will end on July 31st, 2025. I'm writing to request to be reappointed as
a member of the Lakeville Council on Aging Board. um requests for reappoints for conservation commission, energy advisory committee. Oh, we've got one right now. Uh and master plan implementation from Joe Chamberlain. Um
I'm very appreciative of people that send their letters of interest. I think we as a board can do a better job of getting the word out and not reappointing people that don't want to be reappointed just to have them like resign directly after. Um, even though it's hard to fill seats, I want people
to want to be there. Um, sometimes it's just We have a letter from the Department of A agricultural resources um regarding um the Allen and Donna Rink
of Naset Cranberry Co. Um that they were granted an agricultural covenant um by the Commonwealth, which is always exciting. Um, and we've got uh franchise renewal request from
Verizon. Would everyone like me to read that off? No, thank you. Yeah. Um, and Expinity uh Comcast will no longer call carry NECN, New England Cable News. Um, much of NECN
program is available on NBC 10. And also, starting July 28th, the Max, MGM Plus, and DVR package will no longer be available for purchase. Please reach out to the good people at Expinity with
your questions. Um, another letter from Expinity is Netflix standard subscription price increase. Uh, currently a standard subscription is $15.49 a month and it is going to $17.99 a month. Um, the packages will change as
follows. And next, Netflix, MGM, and DVR are 32.48 a month currently will go to $34.98. And Netflix, Max, Paramount, Showtime, MGM, and DVR $6147 a month currently to 63.97.
Again, please reach out to Comcast with questions and comments. Item number 27, possible executive session pursuant to MGL 30AS21A3 to discuss strategy with respect to litigation if an open meeting law may
have detrimental effect on litigating position of the public body. And the chair so declares and I do national opioid litigation and pursuant to GL chapter 30A section 21A3 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for
negotiations with non-union personnel or to conduct collective bargaining sessions or contract negotiations with non-union personnel specifically the town accountant and not to return to open session. So moved.
I get a second. Seconded. Second. Any further discussion hearing? None. Roll call. I do I car I Thank you everybody. All right. 812.