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e e e e e e okay good evening calling to order the zone of uh zoning board of appeals meeting for February 27th uh it's posted for 7 it is 7:08 so
we can open it our first um well before I start only because I think we may have couple of folks here at least for the residences at learon Hills rather than make you wait through it um we we'll still do our what we need to do on our process here but I just want to let you know that we have a letter asking for a
continuance so I don't want you to have to wait around for two hearings in order for you to find out that it's going to get continued anyway so okay thank you uh so the first item uh on our agenda is six Baro Street uh which I am going to recuse myself from and turn it over to
Jeff youngquist uh to have a discussion regarding the conceptual plan Jamie get set up here should pretty simp okay there we go all right Jamie this is just
discussion purposes only and there's no filing or anything so sure this floor is yours go for good evening Jamie bnet Atty Michael shy um this is just an informal introduction to the project uh we met earlier this week with the board
of Selectmen uh they um they seem to like the project uh what we have in front of you is a 20 unit or 20 lot um comprehensive permit plan uh at six Faro and 127 Precinct Street um six barow is an existing
equestrian facility we're not looking to change that uh what we're looking to do is uh maybe reduce a little bit of it but you can see um towards the South area around the plan and even Beyond we've got the large equestrian building with the riding areas and the majority
of the paddocks that are going to remain right now on site there's 40 to 50 horses they're thinking that they might downsize by about 10 horses but we don't want to be held to anything you know on the equestrian side but that's the game plan as of right now
um one of one of the questions the selectman had which I just want to make sure I bring up is um at 127 Precinct Street we are planning on keeping the house that is part of the um the comprehensive permit so that would qualify as one of the houses as well um as far as tax is a concern this
was in uh chapter 61 that has been removed back taxes have been paid so that is cleared up I know that was another uh question um we're looking to do this as a friendly 40b uh the Selectmen seem to be in favor of that they actually pointed us in a couple of
directions and have instructed the town manager or administrator to uh look into potentially looking into 40 y um these buildings um as far as footprint are concerned there's somewhere uh the Box
itself is showing about 1350 1380 ft that's with um a two-car garage so we're talking less than 2,000t homes in general two car garages typically starter homes to you know lower midlevel uh type houses we're not looking at uh
4,000 ft houses here the Lots themselves range between a quar to a third of an acre so they're decent sized as of this we're expecting to have each unit having their own septic and there is Municipal Water available at the street another area that we discussed
was the Route 79 relocation uh the act the actual merging of Precinct Street onto Myck street is going to change and it's actually going to change to help us which is perfect they're getting rid of the Y that comes
onto the myrix and they're just veering it up to a stop as I'm sure you guys have seen uh so that's going to give us a a safer exit and entrance onto our site um the roadway length that's shown is somewhere between 1250 and 1300
linear feet um and we're expecting these to be roughly three bedroom homes so that's about it like I said it's very preliminary we wanted to get feedback um thoughts you know as we're getting ready to file with Mass
[Music] housing let me ask you one question just nitrogen sensitive are you we're not dealing with that if you're going to they have to be three bedrooms got to be 30,000 well we're not in the zone 2
we're not in an iwpa and we have Municipal Water okay so I think we're going to be okay on hydrogen sensitivity okay should I ask audience any of the board members have any other
questions yeah what do you guys are thinking the M for stter homes are CU you don't see a lot of stter Home Project coming online just just like for feasibility I'm just one to be honest with you we we haven't done our profor yet um we figured if the town was going to push
back against us on these projects then the client may say I don't want to do it um our we'll have to do an analysis going forward we we haven't we haven't got an opinion of value of what they're going to be so I could can't answer your question okay
Co you said 20 units 20 Lots 20 Lots an existing house on so you get four affordable five five five affordable okay any other questions from the
board what's on the back side of the um on the bottom of the of your drawing what's the what's the property down there this right here yeah what's is the equestrian facility so this right here is a riding area these are patters um
there's an exting house with pad or stalls underneath here and then there's a giant riding building back here okay um the best way to kind of Orient yourself orientate yourself is coming over behind here out out to Myck Street this is where they were selling flowers
out on the side of the road a few years back and it's like a nice field um and you've got the the Culver just after that okay and from a buffering perspective of what what are you considering for this project to to what
buffering against the backside of the of the the conceptual Lots on both sides I don't know that we've really considered much for buffering it's it's kind of pretty out there uh the developer is also the owner of the equestrian facility so I think he would if he has
concerns about the equestrian part of it being buffered I'm sure that we'll address that just considering more of the the homeowners up on the uh adjacent to myri at the on maybe lot 20
okay and on lot two all right thank you any other questions from the board um I'm just curious what the um looks like a partial driveway or
turnaround between lot um 20 and 19 oh sure right here yeah yeah so in in all fairness originally I was keeping I have a smaller piece for potential expansion in the future you can see by the fillet
um there's there's no secrets that that's the intention of it the devel the developer actually had me widen it because he actually wants to be able to use it for access to the to the farm for now um there's no we don't have a phase two in mind yet but we want to keep keep
that open options yeah absolutely but that that was the original intent was for potentially phase two is this going to be a public road I think it's no this won't be a public Ro yeah I was going to say I don't think so yeah
okay what's the Jes then uh parcel size were the paddocks and we talking about that I think I think it's somewhere 30 to 40 acres so so the entire lot is like 36 Acres plus or minus and our little car vot is 15 no
I think it's like seven or eight 7 or8 Acres so the green is seven or eight Acres yes yeah so they're between quarter to 13 acre lots and then you've got the roadway so yeah that's what we think I think it's closer to 8 Acres yeah did I see somewhere um 16 Acres
we're going to get developed did I misread that we didn't file any applications so I don't I maybe I I did the cover letter of a while approximately 16 Acres of the property yeah so it was only eight I I
was there my my would that be like phase two or no I we did we originally before we came up with this we I present I prepared a larger development which is completely different than this but the owner doesn't want to give up the
equestrian facility and so we got rid of that as a total and reshaped everything uh that layout that I did at that time would not work with this roadway layout yeah um that's the only thing I can think of with the 16 acre [Applause]
parcel but even then I think we may have been using more than 16 Acres when I was on my original [Music] concept any other questions just from um a lot size perspective what's the range what's the smallest lot
versus the largest lot which numbers of which um well again this is a very um conceptual but the the smallest I believe was a little over 10,000 ft and I think the largest was getting close to 20,000 Square
ft um as part of the process just understanding how how we're going to move forward if we keep moving forward is the intention would be to perk each of the lots and then design septic systems and get driveways and houses and yards to fit with water lines so even
this layout conceptually is going to is going to change I mean it would be extremely rare that this wouldn't change to some degree I may have to increase some Lots because of slower perks and I may have to shift you know due to soils or whatever the situation is that's very
common but this is what we we're seeing right now but in as conceptual design with the um developer is the intent still to tap the water line on Myers and bring that
in it is yes and the selectman informed us that the changes in myri are being done in 2026 so they're hoping that if we do move forward that we can get that work done prior to the repaving of the road so that we're not digging up a new
Road I have two questions sure um back to the feasibility part is it the same developer taking on the responsibility of infrastructure and building the buildings or is it two separate entities or is it you know sometimes people buy land and they'll have someone else do the great question I don't think we
Haven an answer for that yet we haven't we haven't gotten that far um and the second thing just on um I don't know the physics of it but um or the environmental part of it but when you get like more dense Lots is it more efficient to have independent septic systems or is at some point become more
efficient to have like shared septic sure um um I think when you're dealing with single family houses and you have the ability for the lot size I think it's a benefit to the homeowners to have the individual septics and the reason being is this is a personal belief not
the the opin my opinion is is that I know how my family and I will treat my septic system I don't know how yours will and so um I think there'll be less abuse because because it will be less of you know multiple people just taking advantage of a system but again I've
designed many shared systems and we've had great luck with those over the years don't come with so in this case I think the intention is to design the individuals so that these kind of act like a regular lot doesn't l v it's just going to be a little smaller gotcha thank
you any other questions G I'm okay Jeff thank you I'm fine then all right did you want to ask the audience may I ask a question or are we not allowed to yeah you can take it yeah you
can question because I am um we you want to come up to the podium that way they they got to catch it on the up at the podium no no you got to stand up and then come walk up
here name and address St state name and address toally okay sure my name is Pauline robello and I live at three Mara gold Lane in Lakeville I just have a question because I'm um Wildlife lover and I just wonder if in your plan you're
going to leave some of the land you know for the Wildlife so that they can um you know Thrive there and not be driven away sure um well the the facility itself we're only developing a small part of it so there's still going to be roughly 30
Acres that's left as not housing it's the houses horses right now there between 40 and 50 there yeah as we speak soes I would say yes for now that is that is that makes me feel good okay thank you is anybody else in the audience want to say
[Music] something hearing nothing guys thank you for your time appreciate itk you thanks guys goody sorry have a good night you're done for everything right
huh you are done for both of these next ones correct yeah all right if you guys don't mind I'm going to take uh meeting minutes out of order only because Jeff is not going to be available for the next two items I canot be for the hofman we do have meeting minutes from December
9th that I'd like to approve uh at this point in December 19th no just the 9th just the 9th okay I can't I I wasn't there for that many the nth the 19th I was there for the 19th
okay well then we're doing the 9th so well since we're doing them anybody want to make a motion to approve the minutes minutes from the 9th I'll make set motion a second we have a second do we have any discussion or all changes to the minutes all in favor I I motion carries
okay number two on the agenda Hoffman hearing for miror gold [Applause] Lane Lakeville zoning board of appeals act in accordance with Master General law fora as amended will conduct a public hearing on Thursday February 27th at 7:00 p.m. in the lakevi public
library fourth precinct Street upon the petition of William Hoffman a special permit is requested under section 27061 c and section 27074 to construct an addition porch and to expand the front deck on the pre-existing non-conforming dwelling
located on a pre existing non-conforming lot the expansion will be within the setbacks site the property site is for mirold Lane and application in the soda documents were able to be viewed at the planning department by appointment so recuse myself Jeff is recusing himself
and I'll see you next week the next month next month yeah so before I read anything into the record uh who is here on behalf of the applicant
Craig okay you want to get up and give us what you guys are doing good evening uh thank you for the opportunity to speak with you tonight uh my name is Craig Harwell I'm an attorney here on behalf of the Hoffman who own for Mar Lane we're here tonight to respectfully
request this board making finding that our proposed change alteration extension uh to their pre-existing non-conforming structure is not substantially more detrimental uh than the existing structure and then based on that finding to grant our request for a special permit to con uh to construct the addition as proposed uh currently the
property has a pre-existing non-conforming house and shed which are not conforming as to lot area Frontage and setbacks uh the lot area is 9,787 s ft and the current Frontage is 95 uh excuse me 65.2 ft uh which will
both remain unchanged uh the left side setback is currently 12.5 ft will also remain unchanged the two areas that are affected by our proposal are the right side in the front setbacks where the existing house is currently 26.5 ft from the right lot
line and 15.6 ft from the front lot line if you were to look at the plans you'll see that the proposed addition to the right side shall be shall reduce that distance from the right property line to 10.6 ft which is still further than the current distance from the house at two
marold which is only 6.4 ft from that lot line uh the driveway as proposed uh will extend excuse me the driveway that currently extends along that right property line will also be partially removed to help reduce some of the unnecessary impervious area and
eliminate any parking towards the rear of the property as well uh there's also some addition in addition to the front of the property uh specifically a new deck uh that will reduce the front set back from 15.6 to 6.5 ft uh but will still be no closer than the existing
ledge that is located there between the front of the house and in the street uh I specifically mentioned this because the fire department raised the issue about clearance going by the street there and you can see on the plan where the where the ledge is located we I have some pictures I can present to you to kind of show how the new deck will
actually not be any closer to the street than the existing ledge which is really the limiting factor of clearance on the road there um that's the breakdown of our changes if you have any questions I'm happy to answer them uh if you have the pictures you be help board
I did notice the same comment from the fire Mr chair there's the front and then this is the house that's on the right side here looking down the stream that's the ledge that is the ledge can't miss it it's also shown on your plans
directly in front of the the proposed front deck y I see it let me I passing those around let me read a couple of um memos into the record I'll start with the one we just referenced from the fire
chief to the zoning board of appeals stated January 27th this document has been submitted to comment on the potential modification to the residents located at for marold laye the applicant should be aware that the value of any renovation project that is great than 50% of the value of existing structure
triggers a requirement for compliance with the most recent version of the fire code as it pertains to the installation of smoke and carbon monoxide detectors Additionally the fire department has concerns about lack of access in this neighborhood due to the pre-existing non-conforming access roads any design should take into account the pre-existing limitations of the road you
not exacerbate already substandard conditions any questions we call the fire department so I'm assuming you know you need to be in compliance with the smok and carbon monoxide alarm yes sir um and you've already pointed out that
that deck if we were to Grant it it's not going to impede anyone coming down that road cuz that piece of ledge is already that's not going anywhere could I ask to put a clarification just so when you have the picture of the street the house and the
structures on the right correct thank we also have a letter from Board of Health excuse me dated February 19th for marold Lane the Board of Health has received the petition for hearing for for Mar gold Lane and has reviewed the proposed
addition plan named hofman residence dated 71124 current septic system is designed for two-bedroom dwelling so the dwelling must remain a two-bedroom dwelling with a two-bedroom deed restriction that has been recoded re recorded reordered oh
recorded excuse me recorded at the registry of deeds Board of Health is still waiting for the deed restriction if the Board of Health receives the deed restriction prior to the hearing then the Board of Health would have no objections to the proposed addition you have any questions contact the office do we know if the Board of Health has
received that recorded I I actually have not received that letter from them we're happy to file the recorded deed restriction prior to issuing a building permit the bo chooses all right if we if if we get to that point we could obviously condition it through
that uh final memo is from the planning board dated February 13th at a regularly scheduled planning board meeting dated Thursday February 13th the board reviewed the above reference application for Craig Hartwell Esquire with regards to the owner's proposal to add in addition to a pre-existing
non-conforming dwelling after deliberation the planning board voted unanimously to send a letter to the zoning board of appeals to comment on the potential modification to the residents located at former gold Lane Lake bille Mass following comments were expressed access to the back of the lot will be compromised as the space will be
less than generally allowed for a fire apparatus for emergency purposes uh approximate approximately proximity to the two structures located at two and for Maro Lane with the proposed changes will be less than 20 ft
parking access will be limited with the proposed changes please contact the planning board with any questions so in regards to one of the points that the planning board made in regard to parking uh it looks like obviously you're going to be taking up a bunch of
that parking area at this point mhm are you going to be replacing it or just losing parking spots or the we're going to locate the parking to the front as opposed to parking in the
back there's enough Pavement in the front there for for two cars to park there okay so it'll become a twocc car uh driveway as opposed to however many cars you can fit in there now
correct sir go ahead Jer I'm not following that I guess so just Orient Orient me on where your parking is on your drawing May I approach yeah right so that dash line will be the
extra payment so from here back any either of the Cs have any questions or comments at this point um well I was just curious on the on the pocking too um and how it relates to the
decks there off fence along the property line not on that side no not not that affects any of the parking in that area no um what I'm just curious what would the need be for the deck on the front as
opposed to the deck as opposed to a deck off the den and slider uh there's already a deck there now so they were just bringing it closer to the structure and just widening it was the intent um in the back we're dealing with
the septic system so that's part of the reason why the shift to the the right in front anyone else have any questions at this point I'm sure we'll have a few more but if not I'll open it up to the uh audience and then we can come back to us sure
anyone have any comments um in opposed to or in favor of the petition support them okay well you know what I'm going to ask you to do if you're supporting them you want to be on the record so they have support
that's always good it's okay I'm Pauline robell again and I live across the street at three Mar gold Lane and you are fully supportive of absolutely my husband and I are both supportive of this feel a little improve
the neighborhood I I think so yes yes I do good and uh you know uh I think their plan from what he's talked about um sounds very doable and uh like you said it's going to improve improve the neighborhood yeah
okay thank you okay uh Alan Hoffman five M gold Lane obviously I'm in support of it as well we live directly across the street and it's my son and we would love him to stay there forever and if he doesn't get this done he might not be able to so um
that's it so yeah it's the plan seems uh comprehensive not a mega mansion expansion keeps a cute uh cotage look of the neighborhood and great we're we're in full support thank you [Music] thanks you guys think any other
questions I will point out you know the fire the planning board makes mention of access um obviously um limiting the access to the backyard I mean fire hoses are pretty long but it's to your own detriment if
you obviously limit the access to the to the backyard that's more so of the just making sure you guys are good with it for the record that you know that they won't be able to get a fire truck back there not that you necessarily want to get one back there anyways cuz you'd be driving over leaching fields and septic
tanks and probably create bigger problems so yeah the left side they would have to go over the the well pad and the right side as a little yeah as tight as it was what's yes sir the left side of the property from six is wide open and you can get uh apparatus and
trucks in from that side if you absolutely had to which hopefully they never will but right a big wide open what was in the what's on the back side of the blot here open space or I believe there's
another house our neighbor behind oh is it okay so how would a fire truck get back there then on the street on the will they have access to another Street there's there's there's no no one's like landlocked yeah
I see okay forget the name pass the property and when it's a six MH there have a wide open yard there and it comes right into the backyard from that side well anybody have any other comments or anyone's interested
in making a motion potentially with the condition in regards to the uh recorded deed restriction the Board of Health I'll make a motion to accept the the plans with the uh water of Health
so we have a motion motion on the table to approve the plans uh as submitted by the petitioner uh only condition being that the Board of Health receives the recorded uh two bedroom deed restriction prior to issuance of a building
perm yes do we have to append anything with the uh fire code obligation that's mandated by state code so subject to the building perment we to that yeah he not going to he's not going to give it to him unless they they do
that I think Mike was more so pointing that out as a reminder you got to do that you have a second to Chris motion second Chris second Chris's motion excellent any further discussion amongst the board all those in favor I
opposed motion carries unanimously thank you gentl good luck and Kathy tell them the drill uh we have 14 days to do the paperwork and we'll go to the town Clark for the 20-day appeal period and I'll contact you and let you know when it's ready to excellent thank you very much
you're welcome have a good evening a good evening thank you for your time much appreciate it you're welcome good luck thank you okay next agenda item residences at learon Hills LLC as I had mentioned at the beginning we received a letter from
attorney Robert Mather on behal of Lear and residential LLC on behalf of Le and residential LLC I'm writing to ask the board of appeals to continue the public hearing scheduled for Thursday February 27th in regards to its request to approve certain modifications of the
existing comprehensive permit for the construction of phase six the last phase of the project we have received the peir review from BS and Thomas and are working on a response of the items raised in the review letter also and of equal importance we have been made aware of a water connection of water
connection issues and we intend to work with the Department of Environmental Protection in the city of Taunton and the learon Hills homeowners associations to clarify and resolve these issues as such please accept this letter as a formal request to continue the public hearing since your next schedule meeting
is in March and it's only 3 weeks from now and we believe we will require more time to fully address these issues we request that the hearing be continued until your April meeting any further questions let me know so what's our April meeting date 17th 17th so would
someone like to make a motion to accept the letter and continue the learon residential hearing until April 17th 2025 I'll make s a motion do we have a second second any discussion all in
favor motion carries unanimously meeting is continued okay that brings us to next meeting unless anybody has any additional business to come up or bring up or we have a gentleman in the audience
you here just watching or listening or do you have uh he's my ride oh excellent an Uber driver whoes an Uber driver who doesn't get paid right there you go okay sorry about that Kathy okay now he's
going to get some FaceTime on BL him uh next meeting is March 20th yeah I was going to say March 20th at the library so we have a motion to adjourn
make a motion adjourn second second all in favor motion carries meeting is adjourned at 742 p.m. I was waiting for to say something e e