71 659 >> I got 659 I'd like to call this uh freely scheduled meeting of the city council to order. um at 7:00 and ask uh Cindy to read their state of compliance with the number of meetings act considering.
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recorded and streamed live using the Zoom meeting platform. Roll. >> Yes, please. Councilwoman Kaminsky >> here. >> Council President Lambert here. Councilman L here. >> Councilman Stegman. Mayor Nell >> here. Right. Please jog and will remain
standing for a moment of silence. And let's dedicate a moment of silence tonight to to peace. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. Thank you. Please be seated. Um we'll continue by opening the meeting up for public participation. I think you
know the drill. Um so uh the members of the public would like to speak please Judy Gleon 86 North Union Street. Um, as members of council are aware, I wanted to identify with some specific points that have taken place over the past year
relative to compliance and enforcement in town around the zoning and then it would be construction relative to the property where the playground serving the Landville Academy exists.
And my concern is although I will say I would interrupt myself and say I sent a letter laying out some of the history of this which people have received but sometimes it's nice to be reminded and I heard from the construction official and
from the mayor saying that I they would be available to have a meeting about the issues that I raised. I want to just make real clear this is not a Judy Gleason issue. This is a compliance and enforcement issue in town with our city
offices, our city zoning rules, our city construction. Not just our city construction, actually national construction speaks to the need to have a construction permit on the slab where a playground is sitting where it's put.
You don't you don't inspect equipment. So, I had been wrong on that. I think you know in my communication with the council I said I have not understood this as well as I do now in the beginning. So, I was out front sort of expressing concerns about issues that
are not going to fall within the count the city's um responsibility. But this has been a year and I'm told today or yesterday that all of a sudden the the school wants to talk
to the to the construction office about oh well maybe we can do this, maybe we can do this. This has been a year enforcement and compliance. compliance and enforcement. What worries me, I've always said this all the way through. We have people who run into zoning issues
and the construction office every day in this town. And when we have water problems, we have it even more. And we enforce and we require compliance in every other case. And for some reason, for a year, we have not been requiring
that. I don't understand that this the city official initially said there needs to be a zoning permit and when the zoning permit issues are resolved having to do with storm water management which this council took very
seriously when this was passed in 2024 and this was a big deal and it's not a big deal apparently in every case and now I mean subsequently on March 31st First, the construction official said to me, "There's no zoning
issue here. There's no construction issue here." Well, you've been saying for a year there is. I'm not a construction official. My concern always has been we have to count on our city officials
to treat everyone the same. And we have to count on our city officials to look at compliance and to look at enforcement. I I appreciate being offered a meeting, but it's not my issue. It's not my
property. I mean, I don't own the playground. I'm not doing any of that. Somebody needs to do that. And I would think it would be the zoning official. And I would think it would be the usual steps that you take when there's compliance issues and enforcement issues.
So, I hope that this is the last time, Lord knows that I ever have to talk to you about the playground. But that's what I want to bring to your attention. And I don't I don't really have a specific question other than compliance and enforcement
has to be somebody's job here. I think y'all have oversight. I think most of you are concerned about that. So, that was my overcome. Jeff T, 33 Wilson Street. I just want to talk a little bit about the board of
adjustment meeting that was held here. Um, I I'll start out by saying that the members of their board were all volunteers that did their job. They listened to the public. They asked important questions and so this is not about them. But I will say that the the
three professionals that represented the town not only did not do their job, but it seemed as if they ignored pertinent facts and never gave pertinent information to the board. And in some cases, I felt like they were actually
trying to bolster the case of the applicant and not do their job representing the board that they're supposed to. the board had a lot of questions and a lot of concerns and instead and I'll just give you a couple of points that I want to measure. First
off, the the attorney for the developer said that it would never come to the board of adjustment for a hotel and our attorney agreed with them and actually reinforced it. Problem is hotels were permitted use they would never come here. That was specious information to
smoke the board. That was point one. Point two, the lawyer and the planner said very specifically that the restoration of the building was a benefit to the public and that meant the public good under the law. It did not.
Our attorney and our planner who know better or should know better never corrected that. And I think that was a travesty because they could have voted for it based on wrong information. A public good is something that benefits the public
directly. It's not a private wedding facility. It's not the people who have a wedding. It is something that includes open space, uh, renewable energy, things that people use, doctor's office. There's a long list. Painting a building
and not to the exact standards and they weren't restoring it basically to what it was. And that that really bothered me the most. Um, and the reason is, I guess, because I've been going to planning board meetings for 54 years and I sat on three boards and my wife's a
planner and she founded New Jersey planning officials that educate officials on plan and their role as commissioners and they also have a legal part that have that educates and attorneys that do land. And so I've been involved with this most of my life and through my professional work and I've
never seen anything like that before. And then the last part was the engineer who I respect and like who never raised the issues of the traffic study that the public made even though he wrote a letter about it to them but he never read it out loud. And then three little
things that I think were important. I've never been in a hearing where the applicants people get to go first and all three of their experts spoke and the public only gets three minutes to question all three of them. In most towns, as long as your questions are pertinent, one, they go one at a time
and you get to ask multiple questions as long as you don't repeat yourself or not asking what other people do. And then the other part was I've never seen before where the public when they're there to make a statement get sworn in. People I know in the audience did not want to get up and speak because they thought they could get sued if they said
something wrong. Only experts, if the applicant has an expert or the opposition has an expert, they get sworn. or if I would be testifying as an expert and I have to give a cur a curricular vetos to show that I am an expert and be accepted by the chair. The public should be allowed to speak and say what they want. Those are my major
points and I really think that there needs to be some changes and reform in this town because that was not a good meeting in 54 years of going to meetings I've never been at one like that. Thank you. Well, do you want to say something? >> Well,
I can't help but not say that I I did feel that that I didn't really think that um I I was a little surprised having testified at the meeting that I got sworn in and there were people who were pretty intimidated by that. I found the tone of the um our our attorney to
be he was very rude to a lot of our our residents when they got up to speak and um I didn't quite understand how he handled the hearing. Um I it it it was look there the hearing went
fine and everything, but I I I have to agree that it was those things were very offputting and I thought that he was um our our attorney was offputting to the public. Um
I don't know. Um, first Jeff, I completely agree about the members of the board, you know, the job they did and how much time >> they were great. >> Yeah, they were fabulous. And um, you know, I think everyone that was there probably came to the same decision. It
was not a great point at all. As you can see, uh, I was disappointed by our professionals that night. You know, I thought I thought the the planner was a little mean. Um, I don't know. uh you know I I think a little more experience
hopefully um we do a better job on that but I also share uh parents concerns about you know the people coming here to speak because that's a very important thing um you know they're taking time out of their day you know they've got kids at home probably you know sometimes it's only one parent that can come here
the other one's back there so they're going to come here I don't want to have anyone feel that they you know are uncomfortable with kids so I'll make that's something that we should address the best way we I was also I was at the meeting. I was surprised that swearing in part of the
public seemed kind of offputting. Um the application the way it was handled seemed to me that I don't know who agreed on our side or the city side
rather that um that the applicant would come in not with a full vote just with a few just with or issues they wanted to solve with that or to relieve from some
ordinances. is um I you know I I uh I think that may have influenced the response from our professionals since they were not they were not talking
about the project as a whole. They were just talking about what was in front of them at the time, which was just the four the four uh items I need relief from me. So, I just
think it was very confusing uh to get a an answer when no one seemed to know what the questions were about. So that's my that's my take on I think the board did great.
um and uh see where you know we'll see where but I was surprised at the you know response from some of our professionals and but you know they can only comment
on what was in front of them at the time which was you know or or or items they wanted delete from. So it didn't really address the overall picture of what they wanted
to do. It was uh you just talking about what they would need to go forward. So I think uh and the traffic study information that came out was ludicrous.
But that's just my take as a I'm kind of as someone who came to a meeting and you know like like many people who sit up here we all take different roles in our journeys here and I Karen's been on the
planning board planner I was on the planning board I was on the zoning board you know in in these past years so you kind of expect the meeting to be handled in a certain way and I by an applicant. Basically, I just think
it was uh not the best presentation and and the the the the uh I think the public was intimidated about speaking to but you know without
having the professionals hear this there's really no I don't know what the thought processes were behind this but it seemed to be a very disjointed presentation and That's kind of what I thought about.
>> Oh, thank you for raising these points. Uh I think um they're substantial enough to discuss with professionals. I can't nothing we can do about the applicant presentation, but um I don't know if each of you would be willing to send me a couple of things uh just to note and I'll put it together and speak to the
professional and come back to this body. Um >> yeah I I think I I I think that um this issue with um our board you know
board attorneys attorneys has res come up again and again you know in different aspects so I'm like you know I got to do another work you know there's a lot of different
issues here So it's like, you know, work's got to step up. I also think though too that, you know, we could probably also help, you know, kind of let folks know like along with the board um chair and vice chair, you know,
because they have ideas how they'd like the board meetings to be run. Um, and that we, you know, that they're part of the instruction to our professionals about what to expect at each meeting kind of. might feel like the meetings
kind of happen and there's no there's just no um you know there's not not that there should be a script because the meeting has to unfold as the meeting unfolds but just you know how to go what people should say okay you're going to
take the time that do we is the planner or the um junior or the attorney going to take time to you know make some sort of presentation or are they going to re do they read their comments comments, you know, watch the rules here. And I I
think that seems to be a little funny, you know, uh sometimes too, uh as well. So, you know, just the how the meeting gets run, you know, they, you know, whether or not they want to work, you know, get some assistance in there
or something because they the they just seem to be fraugh with like some, you know, problems at times. The outcome's always good. meetings are good, the people on the board are great, and everybody wants to do the right thing. But it gets a little
hooky when there's hesitation as to what the presentation should be, who should speak, and who's the client and who's the customer here. You know, our citizens are our customer. They don't, you know, they're our client. you know
that you know that it should be a little bit more well you know a little s and you know something that came up today since we're on the issue of might as well raise it is that I know we've talked about before it isn't necessarily appropriate to do zoom have a planning
board or zoning board at zoom because you can't like testify or anything but just a recording of the meeting so people can watch them I I saw on north jersey.com there were they there were um some somebody had raised the issue and they were surveying like all the towns
in like Bergen and Payic like of what their boards did and and granted it was mixed but you know some people do offer that like in this time that we we have it so people could kind of find out what's going on because you don't know what's going on in the world where we
all zoom with each other that you know that there's this cone of silence around these meetings is one thing I don't think that we want to have people have the, you know, not for in not for public input. You want to talk, you have to come to the meeting. If you're the
applicant or you're um representing somebody, you'd have to come to the meeting. But, you know, can we should we be doing that? You know, at that level, you know, it's a question that's being asked now of governing bodies. >> I think it's a great idea to have a
>> I think unfortunately just the reason why it's not being certainly the secretary who attends the meetings is able to work the the camera. Imagine you've got Cindy through sets and everything. So, we would have to have someone to set that up. I think that's the the barrier. But, I think it's a
great idea because after the meeting, everyone was asking what was going on. You know, people weren't able to see it. So, I think agreed that people >> Yeah, I I think it's a great idea to record. Um I also second the sentiments
around um respect for the public in these um these meetings. Um I' I've sensed this on more than one occasion in other settings
that some of our professionals don't really understand who their customer is. Okay? I don't know who they think it is, but there's not a lot of respect for the public sentiment. I
think we have a very well- educated, well-informed constituency and their points are more often than not well raised and well thought out and they should be responded
to as such. Um, and as far as recording, I agree. Um, but you know, to the point about you can't participate, you can't ask the question because you can't testify. I think that's a question that we need to kind of get to the
bottom of, like does the public need to be sworn in? I've been I was at a um I was at a zoning board meeting a while back and I don't recollect people being
sworn in. So I think we need to give the city needs to give these professionals some very let's put it uh constructive feedback development opportunities or how they can improve their performance.
Um, and I don't know. I don't know like are these are these people just very comfortable? Do they think this is an easy gig or a small town? I don't know. Um, it's unfortunately
people are drawing those types of conclusions and it doesn't doesn't shine a positive light on those professionals or the organizations from which they come. Right. Yeah. And the the one other thing that I don't think I think that
they need to do at the outset is explain the rules. You know, like we're here having a a a hearing on a use variance and nobody from on the is explaining the rules. This what a use variances and this is the test and this
is this thing. You know, you can read it from the land use law. It's not like, you know, you're you're going to be interpreting anything, but it gives the public some context, too. So, you can even make better comments or, you know,
give yourself some framework because, you know, people don't understand the process. So, we really need to explain, you know, the process, you know, a a little bit. You know, tonight we're going to hear from so and so and so it's going to go like this. It's just, you know,
>> what if you do that against one and the attorney should be explaining the public why you have to do that, >> you know, and that's, you know, and that I totally believe is an um call the attorney and that was his
style cuz like not everybody does it. I was he didn't do and I was standing there block behind you and he's swearing in and I'm like what's that kind of scorn? He was a perfect speaker cuz he said attorney or something like that.
What the heck is going on? And >> attorney didn't have to get sworn in because he said he was an officer of court. I didn't drop that. I was too, but >> it was like bizarre like you know was just like those situations.
>> Did the guy call it? You know, I mean it was his call. The attorney just started doing it, >> right? So, it's been my experience uh certainly on the planning board. I can't speak as much to the zoning board, but I have had conversations with the chair at zoning table at least once or twice a
year about meeting formats, making sure that he's comfortable with uh how things are going. And certainly I know that it's true on the planning board because I regularly and Crystal regularly brings in the chair of the planning board to discussions about particular meetings in
terms of format and do you want do you do you want to change it a little bit because of X Y and Z or you happy with the format? So, you know, there is a there is some latitude obviously and I think that both the chairs on these two boards who have, you know, decades of
experience um run very successful meetings and have the ability to work with the professionals in terms of what their expectations are. And I think that it's absolutely fair for us to make observations um and and check in with uh the board chairs in particular to make
sure that they're happy. I I did have a conversation with uh the the board chair, zoning board chair um few weeks before about another matter on the board. Um so, you know, I know that he's comfortable with running the meetings and he did a great job. Um, but I do
think but your points are all well taken and I think that >> professionals and and the way they you know come forth with their duty because you know Pat or Paul can't predict what the guy they don't know what he's going to do. You know he didn't say oh I'm
swear people in tonight start swearing people in. He didn't say when so and so asked that the thing could be accepted that he was going to jump down that person's you know it's how they comport >> I I think
looking back at it there was a certain amount of arrogance coming from our professionals to the public and you just can't have that just can't have >> okay >> can't do it they can't do it >> it would be helpful if you would all
send me a few notes that I and forward and the implementation. Um they do want to acknowledge these concerns and work through them. So I do a thought too on that. Do we ever ask the members of the board what they think about professionals? Uh, I haven't asked me. I
only checked in with the chair and really the chairperson and I think that I think that Crystal has regular communication with both chairs of the boards, but I don't think that she she may have some communication with the vice chair of the planning
board on things like that. But it may be a good idea maybe once a year to do a survey maybe at the end or just a thought. I mean, people work with them, they see it, and if there's an issue, they're probably going to see it more. I mean, the only reason I saw I went to meeting >> Yeah. We
Well, thank the room for wishes to take a line. >> I do not have any hands up. >> May I have a motion to put the bill on car, please? >> In favor, please say I. Hi. Thanks. On
to the proclamation of Arbor Day. Uh so Arbor Day a tree for plant. I sp a little water and compost on it or something over at the school. Um so here we we proclamation and I read it.
Thanks for um whereas in 1872 J Sterling Mormon proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day is set aside for the planting of trees and whereas this holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska. And whereas Arbor Day is now observed
throughout the nation under the world where Arbor Day whereas trees can reduce the erosion of our oppression's top soil by winds and water, cut heating and cooling cost, flabberate the temperature, clean the air, produce life-giving oxygen and provide habitat for wildlife. And whereas trees are a
renewable resource, giving us paper, wood for our homes, fuel for our fire, fires, and countless other wood products. And whereas trees in our comm in our city increase property values, enhance the economic vitality in our business areas of good.
And whereas trees wherever they are planted are a source of joy and spiritual renewal. Now therefore, the government body of the city of Lambertville hereby proclaims April 24th, 2026 as Arbor Day at the city of Lamville. All citizens
urged to celebrate Arbor Day for efforts to protect our trees and woods. And further I urge all citizens to plant trees to allow the art growth the will of this and future generations. Commissioners having a conversation I would ask second.
>> All in favor? >> I I >> Okay. Motion carries unanimously. Um resolutions have one resolution. It's resolution number 80-2026. since a resolution of the city of Lambertville uh endorsement in support of the state of New Jerseyy's Department of
Transportation Route 179 Bridge Street and Corel Bridge Street Bridge over the VNR canal theater improvements. So, uh I think I've mentioned this in maybe in matter the last meeting. Um recently met with the DOT uh and Lieutenant Brown on March 11th to
discuss their plans for upgrading replacing the bridge at Bridge Street and uh on canal the Corell Street Bridge canal. Um and we are required to uh support this adopt this resolution support of their plans. Um as I said I think at the last meeting uh we're still
probably three or four years away from construction. Um they are still working on kind of the initial some of the initial design requirements. Um I believe they're going up to bid you know I'm not sure when they're going up to bid but years away regardless to consider this resolution.
>> Is this rement? >> Yes. >> Yeah. And and I think it's important then too that you know do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D dot is saying you know it's like three or four if we're lucky four to six but that that uh the Bridge Street Bridge would be first the Corell Street
Bridge would be second you know and the the deterioration and and you know we're talking about uh only because that's essential about how to re you know we try you know there'll be a lot of info in it but it's
But the bridge is >> correct. They able to at least keep one direction or >> Yes. >> Yeah. Like they had it, you know, just like when the bridge was >> I think
not right away. Um I think it's probably okay for me to forward the the this the slideshow onto the council. I don't know if I can I don't know that it's still may still be I' have to check a bill to see if we could share it with the public. Um but but I can do that if interested.
>> I think I put it in a folder, didn't you? >> Oh, I don't know. >> Correspondence. No, that's mosquitoes. Well, at any rate, I apologize. Sure. That is it there. Okay, great. >> Resolution back there.
>> Um, and if anybody on council has any questions about it, certainly the notes they took which were subsequently sent are the notes in there as well. The sub the meeting. >> Um, I think everything's in there. >> Okay. >> Yes, >> they're comprehensive. But I want to
point out in the notes sometimes they say March 13th, >> but they really did meet March 11. March 11. Okay. Um, any other questions, Elvis? Hearing none, uh, I'll make a motion to
adopt resolution number 80-2026. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Motion carries unanimously. Um, to entertain motion to pay the bill unless there are any questions. So move.
>> Have a question. Oh, >> okay. Before that, just what what your note is on the resolution that we're not bringing up now, but it says this resolution is being held to the 49 2026 >> to speak for 23 meeting.
>> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, you were quite done with that yesterday. >> I I didn't know. Secondary. >> Um, so we have a motion on the floor. Is there a second? So, uh, all those in
favor of panel votes, please say I. I. I. Um, two things to update, uh, the public and the council on abandoned and vacant properties update. Uh, in particular, 40 South Union Street. The city clerk posted the abandoned property notice on
the door of 40 South Union Street, placed an advertisement in the current times, and filed copies of paperwork with the county records. Um so that is ongoing slow moving and do you have anything to add to that? >> Just um that we have to give it some
time for them to respond and if they don't respond then the city attorney will tell us there's two different directions we can go in. Um you know we could condemn the property or we could take the property but that's you know that's down the road and something that
we have to give them time to respond. Um the property at the county they did confirm that the property has a mortgage. So uh we do anticipate the mortgage holder stepping in at some point but we don't know how to reach that from
Wyoming >> points. So we have >> Thank you. >> Uh just an update on the environmental resource inventory. the the environmental commission is taking a lead on the project and uh formed a committee who will begin to
meet next week on Tuesday and uh thank you Jack for sending some resources for the possible funding um we're taking a look at that um the environmental resource inventory did check uh in terms of funding that uh we do the master plan
we can uh do a special emergency and confirm with the auditors that anything that we wanted to include in terms of environmental resource inventory also funded through that uh that that um emergency. Um so we'll have some information on
that for with Department of Health grant for well testing. Um city received a grant from the department of health for well testing. Uh this will fund 15 tests through rarity headquarters which is a nonprofit. They 10 properties tested on Monday April 6th and remaining five will
be tested on Monday April 13th. Uh these include 12 properties on college hill, one property on music mountain and two properties on the air tracks. Thank you for your work on that. Cindy, >> I just want to add to that the state has
done a lot of testing. The only area that they haven't tested was blood check. >> So that'll just uh supplement what we've done. >> Thank you. >> Um natural time solutions grant. We talked about this a few times. Uh, you know, I've had some comprehensive
further conversations with both the D and the New Jersey OEM to potentially doing the blank grant. Um but in conversation with New Jersey OEM uh knowing we have to do a cost benefit analysis it was determined how different
we are the scope of the project and its relationship to the school for example was not going to really give us uh any opportunity any realistic opportunity to to uh win a grant. So, um, you know, given those two things, I have, uh,
decided not to move forward with, um, uh, the, uh, natural climate solutions grant. Um, landlord registration and short-term rental registration update. Uh, it's ongoing. 266 properties recorded. We
have about 60 property owners who have completed the process. So, we still got a lot to do there. Um, Miss Cindy received quite a lot of paperwork this week and they're reviewing it. Um, letters be mailed out at the end of April 17th.
Short-term rentals, we have 47 properties recorded. 31 completed the registration process. 11 are in the process and are in various stages. Most are waiting on a fire inspections. Uh, five property owners received a strongly worded letter from the clerk's office.
Um, risk management. The city is supposed to discuss risk management annually at one of our council meetings. According to our insurance company, the city has a safety committee that meets annually. We recently met um to review our social logs and discuss safety methods to address mitigation of work
hazards. It's an easy graph included equipment that were used that will when used will prevent injury like helmet safety vest, goggles, sitto, shoes, etc. The insurance company contracts with TNM conduct safety inspections of all city owned properties annually and they
provide us with a review so that we can address these uh issues identified as hazards and we're also inspected by the state of New Jersey department and the fire. So all those things thank you for the safety committee meeting
a month or so ago. Um just uh one note from correspondents Hing County Department of Health division of mosquito vector control notice of mosquito control program which we received. Um and then just a couple of notes about ongoing projects here. Uh
thank you to Sue Borm um who helped get all of our employees and retirees over the line with the health insurance um uh date on April 1st. She >> almost there. >> Almost there. She had a very very busy April 1st with lots of calls um from
employees. So really a lot of gratitude to you Sue. I know it's tremendous amount of work that you had to do. >> And did you see the article in the paper about the huge increase? >> I did. Yes. >> Yeah. Huge increase the state more than expected. >> Yeah. >> So is that because so many are pulling in? >> I did.
>> Well, yeah. It's just that it's fixing the program. You know, there are some provinces and uh it's all kind of side burner. Not bad for the side burner. >> Um, Bolad is starting their water main
replacement uh on Monday on South Franklin Street. So, everyone is encouraged to check the city website for updates and uh we'll be posting things to Facebook and the city web page on a regular basis. Their work will take about a month or so. Um once they relay
the water man, they've got a number of service lines, new service line they're going to put in with South Franklin. Um our bid opening for repainting of um South Franklin Street is on April 29th. So as soon as the uh our expectation is
as soon as the the the VIA job is done, we'll be able to come in and finish the the city work. Um just to note, we're still in discussions uh with the PDA about the contract. There's one more meeting on Monday and we'll be we're going to be able to wrap
that up very soon. Um preparation for the far market going well. Um so yeah, not sure what um we all we um with links to all of the required paperwork, all the permits here from the
county and the city and uh all harmless permits and certificates for the sheriff. So, well, that's on track to start um uh May 17th and um I have written a letter to the neighbors uh in the library area and I'll be handling us
on Monday or Tuesday just to make sure that they have mining and contact for any questions they have about the market or parking here. Um I did note in matters today that the budget be introduced on the 23rd. Um, so
it feels like it's going to be the most difficult budget of my mayorship. Um, even harder than the first few years. Uh, a lot of that has to do with continued rise in costs. Um, and uh, a number of factors. So stay tuned. Uh,
we're working on it. Um, and uh, introducing on third. Um, and I know some people are interested in um, the KOAN matter. I'll just note that um in this case management conference call the record is scheduled for May 19th. Um so
we will keep you aggressive you need to know along those lines. Um we have a question. >> Yes. >> Who um to your knowledge who will be on the call with us?
>> Just the attorneys. >> So you won't be >> Yeah. You are one. That's correct. >> Yes, >> good point. I guess that helped. >> Yes. The the Bill serves as a redevelopment attorney and city attorney
and Kelly who served as um and there's been a fair amount of fourth round back and forth between the parties for council. >> Um just a couple of announcements. Shest is coming right up. Our local site is
April 24th, Friday, and then festival is April 25th and 26th. Uh the pride parade is May 16th. Um and the governing body will hold its monthly voting session on April 23rd here at 7 p.m. Um so
can uh just an announcement for for everybody here on this day and all board of commission members to file their annual financial disclosure with the state of New Jersey. If you need some additional information, please contact city. Has anybody done it here?
security and then what's the >> Oh, the cyber security. >> Yeah, did it first, but I I couldn't get access. >> Oh, the risk management seminar. >> But we got Is there a management we got
to watch? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We're all done. I think it's what we have to do. We got a selection. watch this. >> Yes. Which one? >> The risk management video. And if you watch that and you got the certificate, then we're good.
>> Yeah. >> Good. Uh I will re open this up to public participation now. Second Jeff Ter just a quick question. Any update on D and trying to get access on the hill to the site to the high school
site? No, I'm sorry. >> If you read the letters, the the developer says that he doesn't have that ability to give that >> uh Dire 255 Runs Avenue uh following up on the planning uh board discussion. I
thought that was very very good and I certainly support what was said. Um, the the sound, not the sound like a broken record, but it was almost I'm I'm disab. So, there was a comment made and I
believe it was from over here. Okay. Uh, about uh fire some fire violation, fire code violation. All right. And there is a 10-foot required. All right. Uh clearance. All right. And they only have five, which
we're going to accept. Anybody else remember hearing that? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> I'm not exactly sure what it is. All right. But I don't think we should be, you know, if you're having a facility that's going to have 150 people come out
through a cattle shoot, okay, in an emergency and you're should have 10 feet and you have five feet is a problem. So if that was something that our professionals have said, I think there needs to be some revisitation of that
and why. All right? Because you know once the building is built all right and if that you have that physical all right and you have a fire and let's say you have an explosion in the building okay now you really got to get people out quickly all right and if you only have
half the space to get people out not a good thing so that may be part of the uh you know the discussion with the mayor or the mayor uh in talking to our professionals does does anybody remember was on either the engineer or the uh the
planner. >> I don't remember hearing >> I can inquire about it. Do you remember hearing who said it? >> Okay. >> Right. I'll look into it. >> Just just kind of thing that well there's a lot of discussion whether or not a fire truck even fit back in that
alley. >> I think it's you know >> that was another another part and I think that was public. Sorry, but this was a the code requires 10, we got five. So, all right.
We can blame it on you. Wow. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> And that was the the zoning board, not the planning board. >> Oh, did I say zoning? Our plan? >> Yeah. Just we knew what you meant. Thank you. Anyone on
Okay. Bart, would you like to go ahead? >> Yeah, sure. Uh, thank you very much. It uh Bart Thurber 53 Lambert Lane and I was just wondering while some of us know about individuals, I was wondering if we know overall how many local residents
are being detained by ICE. >> Uh, question. >> I'm sorry. >> Is that your only question? >> That's my only question. Well, it's nice to hear from you. I hope you're doing well. It's been a long time. Um, one Lambert Hill resident is being detained
and there is a Ringo uh individual who's also being detained. >> Thank you very much. >> Yeah, if you want to have a an offline conversation, you can give advice in the morning. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right. Motion to close public
health, please. So >> second and how about all right in favor? I I thank you. Thanks for coming.