good evening and welcome to the ordinance committee meeting today is Tuesday March 25th 2025 uh let the record reflect uh let's do a roll call Miss H can you do the roll call please he
byce roll call celor Gregor Del Rosario counil Selena Rees pres councelor fidelina Santiago present and chairman mark president pursuing to chapter 20 of the acts of 2022 this meeting the ordinance
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please rise for a pledge of eliance flag United States of America indivisible we don't have any minutes so we're going to right to as we typically do in this committee anyway hope other committees do it but we try to get our city employees up and out after a very long day um the first U we're going to
deal with stuff from the planning department uh the first one uh is document if there's no objection 11625 this is the approve the alteration of on street parking at or around the Henry K Oliver school um any OB objections and taking that out no objections so Mr
McCarthy you here Mr McCarthy it's time it is now time we're dealing with the Oliver School Police Department the fire department
the Department of Public Works plans support the project okay anybody else having their packets maybe it's here here it
is just give me one second Mr McCarthy go right ahead okay uh good evening councils uh as you you all know me I'm Dan McCarthy uh City of Lawrence planning director at 360 marry ma street with me is uh Mr
John Hart from smma uh they are the architectural team working on the Oliver school I also have Christian quo who's is also part of the team and odonis Hernandez who's here from the school department and we're
here to present you the um the new alterations to the parking situation situation around the Oliver school um Mr Hart who's uh been had designed that is going to go through the um slideshow and
explain it uh the changes to you you should also have a handout with a with a Narrative of all the changes a two-page narrative uh it's not not incredibly large amount of changes but they are important uh good evening everyone again John Hart with smma um on behalf of the
the school um and so I'm just going to run through um show some slides showing um existing conditions or pre-existing conditions before the school and then show what
what is proposed um this first slide is um the uh pre-existing school and here sorry whoops
okay so I don't know if you can doesn't really show up but anyways um at the bottom of the page is havil havil Street and the top part of the page is is Oak Street uh and the intersection with short Street going vertical and uh and
so this is and then the the inset is an aerial of the continuation of the West End of Oak Street out to Lawrence Street um and these one the the five photos on
here are um relate to photos here um these again are pre existing um the one in the bottom left and the middle left those are looking each way on um havil
Street um with the with the park across the street from the school um the one at the top left is um looking West um on Oak Street um with short Street coming up on the right and then the two on the
right are looking East down Oak Street um so Oak Street was uh one way um before the school construction it's temporarily two-way while the the road is blocked off for construction and that will go back to one-way Street um going
from Lawrence Street um to the east um and then in the proposed condition the dark shaded area is the portion of the the new uh footprint of the building there is a
the two rectangles reaching out to the bottom of the page and havil street is the existing wings of the the old school that remain um and then again havil Street on the bottom Oak Street um on the top and that inset back to um to
Lawrence Street um on havil Street um the changes to parking are are there are very little changes to parking so there used to be um just going to slide back here quick so if you look at the the
bottom uh on Hail Street in front of the old school there were three crosswalks there one on each side of the building and one at the center and cardillo way is the the one on the right of the page um near where the the number
one arrow is and in the proposed condition we have one crosswalk at uh the extension of cardillo Way cardillo Corner now um and so that was to focus pedestrians to pass in one location
instead of three different locations um and there're and we're proposing also a raised crosswalk there and there'll be a flashing a rapid flashing Beacon there that will be activated by somebody pushing a button it'll flash both sides of the streets both
directions um and feel that adds a a lot of safety to to Crossing uh averil Street um there is one one added uh accessible parking space on the left left side of
the school Frontage on Hail Street and the rest of the parking uh along havil Street remains unchanged it's not really striped at this point it's just um open on both sides to park um the area
directly in front of the school between the raised crosswalk and that accessible parking space is a No Parking Zone um and that's made for drop off and pickup of students there is also drop off and
pickup in the rear on on Oak Street um and again if we start at the aerial up top we come in off of um Lawrence Street um what hap there there's parking um on the north side of the
street there as you go by the library and then then the road will shift and parking will shift to the north side of the road and then there's a drop off along the back um
and don't know whether can't see my cursor but um so right in back of the school um there is uh travel on the north side of Oak Street and a drop off that's striped on the south side and
then you come to the intersection of Short Street and there's a stop sign um crosswalks there and uh and so in the on the parking on go to the next
slide um a little hard to see here but um essentially there is there is was current was previously parking along that north side of the street and now there is parking only in a certain
section uh north of the library um and extended behind a little behind that next Church um we've REM showing removing a couple spaces right right as you come off of Lawrence Street and that's basically for
truck turning fir Tru turning um coming off of Lawrence onto Oak and then there's a stretch of um seven spaces that remain so we're losing two spaces on the end at
Lawrence uh seven spaces remain and then from that point where the road shifts um to Short Street um there is 17 um that are being being
removed um and then four more on the East wing of the school on the South Side uh for that's where the loading is for the school
um and and then this this exhibit just shows the turning radius of the fire trucks and other trucks coming on to Oak Street there and why we removed those couple on the end
um and that's really it's really thank you uh what is before us this evening what are we what is the vote going to be for the full for the council uh the vote would to adopt the the parking layout as described here I'd
probably then have to do work with uh city clerk uh berell to uh how we we would draft that up for the ordinance uh because we'd have to indicate those the parking situation on the public record uh because we're going to be eliminating
certain amounts of parking uh for the drop off areas um we had contemplated doing some maybe time situated changes but we decided that was at this juncture is complicated so I really want to do it the ma the major changes are are this
one is we're going from three crosswalks on havil Street to one crosswalk it's going to be an elevated crosswalk it's going to be wider more secure it's going to link up cadillo way to the pathway from that's on the it'll go directly through and that's going to be the main
one the I think one of the concerns is three crosswalks is three sets of children uh groups of children walking at the same time require more control more uh you know more eyes on the on the street that having one crosswalk is the other idea is it's going to be mainly
drop offs on the uh north side of havl street and on the south side of Oak Street and the determination I don't know if the determination has been made about where the buses the bus is going to go to havil Oak Street Oak Street so the buses will be on Oak Street and so
that will be um those will be the major changes uh we did do we as you saw we eliminated two parking spaces for the fire department on Oak Street cuz they could not make the turn the turn radius to get into Lawrence onto Oak Street from Lawrence uh because the Oak Street
so narrow uh so now that's been uh there's going to be a no parking area there it's going to be uh clearly marked so so there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff going on so there's a lot of
changes so uh I'm not even sure where to start let's start off with the crosswalks um right one crosswalk as opposed to three my experience representing the high school and South Florence East on winra bab is
that you're going to have at least maybe it's an older student at the high school maybe that's a difference but you're going to have students walking across no matter where they are if it's going to get them faster across to the to the place as opposed to being orderly going to the crosswalk going in so I don't
know I'm not sure that's going to solve the problem of having one everybody's going to automatically go there I don't know if that's that so the the way the parking situation is going to be set up uh as you know there's very little off street parking for the teachers and the staff
so I'll be coming back to you at some point with odonis to talk to you more about um the parking situation around the street for the teachers um but one of the one of the concepts is going to be that the teacher teacher parking will be dedicated on the south side of havil
street so those cars will be all filled so parents willon be dropping their kids off on that side so the children that will be Crossing havil Street will be walking through the park on the pathway the central pathway that leads to havil Street which goes to the one sidewalk
which goes to the cadillo way which goes through the area so we we're assuming that that that most of children will stay that now you as well as I know children will walk wherever they want to walk they're going to go on grass but that's a situation that's why we have adults out there to make sure the kids
stay in the crosswalks um it's the best you can do I think um the idea of having three crosswalks is just more complicated we'd have to put you know three sets of adults with signs just if and the children would be picking and choosing which one they want it'd be confusing to drivers and be confusing to
the children so I think narrow it down to one crosswalk as an elevated crosswalk uh with more safety concerns and flashing lights will be safer for everybody all right just count me I'm not going to I'm not going to oppose it because of that but just count me as one that's
that doesn't think that's necessarily is going to work as we would want it to but we could be surprised give me the net parking are we gaining losing from what it is now and how many um I believe we're gaining on H havil Street but
we'll be losing on Oak Street so what's I don't know what the exact numb is that it's seven no on Oak Street the net gain loss 22 22
cars and so we're losing 22 spots total 22 spots those will mainly be on Oak Street I understood because that's Oak Street you can only Park on one side of the road if you're going to have a drop off on on on one side you can't park you have to the other lane has to be
dedicated for travel so there's drop off and travel Lanes so they can't be any parking where the drop off is are there enough parking spaces for for the teachers and administrative staff no what's going I remember this debate very clearly and everybody thought that
Buckley garage was going to be the Lord and Savior and save everybody's parking hassles well I don't even know is the parking is is that even a possibility is I have no idea what's going with the Buckley is the Buckley still being used as a parking garage M it is or it's not do we know it's kind It's Kind made in a parking garage yes it still used as a
parking garage yes okay so so we're looking at looking at a number of alternatives to acquiring land to uh amending the parking arrangement with the uh current professional parking company that we have that will dedicate those parking spaces they'll have to be
compensated the parking company for the loss of Revenue but it's all part of it in that are I don't sorry about this there there are plans currently to redev or develop uh places for the Lawrence Redevelopment Authority on current city
own parking spots I think seven of them throughout the north side of the city I'm just wondering I'm not sure where the closest one is to the Oliver school do you know which one is there one close I I would say probably either the Triple E lot or the one uh on Essex Street those those are probably within 2,000 ft
but they're still quite a way that's a long that's still a long walk understood okay um and and the last thing and I'm so happy about this I know this is probably the least important thing out of them all but for me it's it's I'm happy to hear it that you're referring to the alley as cardillo way and that's
still there and that there still going to be a way right there's still going to be an access point in and out there right it'll always be open perfect okay I know my colleagues probably have got some questions so do anybody have any questions or comments on this councelor Del Rosario thank you to you and again
we talking about this in a point that we can't go back late like always I'm concerned who's going to enforce the parking for the fire department who's going to enforce that while we seeing in the city there is no enforcement at all
for regular do not park yet with the corner so how we going to make sure that there constantly enforcement there just in case the alarm goes off for the school um that's one and I thought I thought the city acquired a spal land
that it was to the left on the back of the school for parking I'm concerned also teachers how many teachers are going to work there how many cars are going to be around they're not going to park in the Bley it's too far triple is too far so we're talking about parking
now with the school is almost done where that was should have been the first thing address on this construction since we authorized this construction the whole population had changed nobody thought of it maybe the
teachers in the school thought of it but we decided to go into it without thinking of how many teachers cuz there's a bigger school now right more employees into a school right now you got parking meters M uh the people on cadela way and also
Oak Street that they do have limited parking there it's it's going to be crowded it's going to be chaos another thing that I want you to go back on it the crosswalk it's going to be one crosswalk One race who's going to limit the speed
on that side why not too high two two high things one of those right two one to crosswalk one to eliminate the speeding people that we have the motorcycles on a on a warm day when the kids are going across the street on Hao Street also also I want you to keep that
parking you're not getting any parking on haward street you got you have the same parking spots that you always had that's correct so it's concerning so I I wanted you guys to talk to me about again parking how we going to deal with it popul had grow now on those apartment
Oak Street it's not one family per apartment it's two or three families per apartment it's not one vehicle it's six and five vehicles so again going back we all happy this is going to go through we're not going to go back and say no but who thought of the idea of building
the school bringing more people to work and eliminate parking instead of create parking anybody else wish to speak on this item yes Council Santiago collaborating with my colleag I have to say something about o stre there are
some item over in the agenda about o three the residents came here to report they uh they have a a lot of car they want a one way to the street that's as I
I remember something about in in the item I don't know specific the item number but if he if you if you put a park in there I don't think you are thinking and the
population as well because the resident we I think that's another problem for them the the the problem is the parking and you you are not Crea parking you are moving from some from another Sun mhm
and when those people realize that they lost the the resident parking because really they are losing when the the teacher or working going to parking
there H they will come to the city to re to request us about the parking that's my understanding yes yeah and I and I don't disagree with that I mean and that be the first to acknowledge the city's got quite an issue with parking that's
not no question about that in these neighborhoods I think the city's got to take a a bigger look at this the people who live on Oak Street uh I think we have to go down the road and I know some people don't like this but we have to go more with neighborhood parking with stickers for the people and and limit
the parking to the people who live on Doak Street uh in in that manner to make sure that they have their parking secure um but at the same time we do have to this this this is where the school's going there's no question about that and uh and and and it's a a solution that
the entire City's going to have to work on for this but right now we're getting towards the end of the construction period this is just addressing the drop off situation with the school again I I told you you're probably going to see more of me uh this spring and summer than you want to coming back for pocket
situation so um it it it is something that we need to address and uh the school department is working on it we have meetings on this regular uh talking about what situations are whether that's acquiring land or um you know working out some parking
program you want to speak Council Vice chair re first and then Council Del following the question uh from my colleague uh what is the another way to creating parking versus eliminating because when we thinking in our
community and the be issue we have right now because we have every day phone call we our community complaining we had lot of Ms and when we now announcement we
eliminate uh 20 uh parking spot is really hard to to to moving forward what is the another way you presenting to us to the versus eliminate creating yeah the 20 parking spaces we're eliminating were probably
we were probably some that the teachers would have used they're the ones down behind Fina house in the library uh which is more of a is Le it's a less residential part of the neighborhood Oak Street on the uh Eastern side is very residential it's all residential and
that's where we we're concerned to make sure that the residents of that neighborhood are protected coun thank you and I'm more concerned about the teachers that come in to work and they have no parking space believe it or not and you said that the city have to deal with it no the city doesn't have to deal
with it nine of us maybe even the plan might get calls across across the bridge and again I would love that to be here before all this and this is the plan for packing I mean we were all excited to get the money and do this things but as an amazing work that they doing
they forgetting about the most needed thing for this also safety is an issue drop off when they when that street on the back Oak Street get crowded people rushing to go to work dropping off kits cars parked there from the night
before I mean I I still have my license for school bus drivers I don't want to be the one I mean I don't drive anymore but I don't want to be the drive the one driving the yellow school bus with a park Car spark on the right parents want to drop off the kids on one side and you try to
squeeze the bus on the back of Oak Street so again I'm not an engineer or a designer but somebody when they do the drawing they should have thought of it how many teachers are coming what are we
doing and again when they park right on your corner residents they don't find want to park I wonder who's going to enforce that yeah and and and not just enforce it I don't want to see an emergency that and and the fire truck's not coming in because you eliminating parking on
the back there we eliminating parking to try to create a safe space for the trucks to turn the bus to turn right but who's going to force who's going to enforce those people not to park there a ticket and there's a fire or something
hopefully not and then the truck because that car has a ticket won't be able to go through cuz Engineers who the designed never thought of the density of the city and and decide on parking first again I thought we bought the city or the school got is is bought on the on
the if I'm looking at the back of Oak Street on the left on the left side I think there was a spot there that that they acquired I mean I I'm assuming I that's I mean I think I'm assuming but that's I mean that's what it comes to my mind when I when I picture it on the back there my
aunt lives there on those buildings right across right so I tried to picture and I think she's the only one that have one vehicle everybody has five or six in there so good evening counselor soan is Hernandez I'm the chief operating officer of allence public schools those are really all great um feedback
questions and comments councelor Rosario I think that um in terms of the elimination of parking so we are eliminating a couple of spots when you're turning into Oak from Lawrence for those for the fire engines right for
the school buses and then the other 20 parking spots that um John was referring to on Oak is for that same reason it's because behind the school on Oak that's going to be the drop off for buses and for um and don't forget it's a
neighborhood school so hopefully a lot of our kids will be walking but we do have a lot of families that drop off so you'll see that the cars will be traveling but you'll see that it will be dented in to be allowing for to allow for the to the drop off location think about the Arlington how you have that
the um the island and it's a chaos right it's a total chaos and it's a and it's a wide Street just let her finish a thought great no right and I I guess I'm not speaking about the chaos cuz the entire city is a chaos takes me 45 minutes to get home and I live in the south so the entire city is a chaos
right so I'm I'm just to to help you picture the island that I'm referring to on Oak stre it's similar to the to the one other the partham actually not even the the Arlington the one other the parom when you come down which is still anare I understand and then you can you can pull there so that's that's really
what it is in terms of um parking um I think that you may remember um when I kept coming to you um here for three years um requesting different things or presenting the project and the question that was always brought up what about parking um and I think we always came
forward and said that the project was never designed with parking um at least you know when when it was presented at the beginning back in 2016 2017 um to the city at the time so it was never designed with parking and the
lot or the parcel that you referring to that you thought that the city purchased you're correct about that um but it was not purchased for parking you see one of the Wings if you if you see the school from hyro Street and then you see how the school on Oak goes like this this is
to the left if you're facing it that's that's that's that lot it was never intended for parking it was more to accommodate the design of the school to go to so that it could be a thousand seat school um in in terms of teachers um you know the teach teachers that we
are expecting to be in that building will be the teachers that are currently on um at the Oliver Middle School which is over at the old high school so they'll be traveling over and then the teachers that are currently at s mares for the Oliver Elementary so those teachers will be traveling are we going
to be adding more teachers um probably but not to the extent where it's going to be over a over hundreds of teachers because we already have the two schools they're just going to be joining in one building but we are we have been working for the last six months um what
Mr McCarthy was referring to that you're probably going to be seeing him more often is because he's he's not wrong we've been working um alongside the superintendent DPW parking with Mr McCarthy and the City attorney to think about those things we've been thinking
about what about parking because it things really got complicated for for the for the school when we when the city um install all the meters that's when really th things got really complicated in for the school I mean for the teachers because meters went along um
streets that we didn't have meters before so there's meters Al along Lawrence Street where it's been an inconvenience for teachers to park so we have been thinking about that and we have been um internally thinking and having conversations to aggressively um have a solution for when
school starts so we'll be presenting a lot of those things and coming to you all um with with hopefully some recommendations and actually one way that it may be later on that we come back as you know um who's going to be
enforcing to answer your question around who's going to be enforcing and is a ticketing um you know we we would address it in um the way we do always which is a you know with all the the city Partners but we I'll probably be coming to you all uh once we do another
deeper analysis and with a possibility of recommending that that that um Oak Street becomes a one way during school hours the same way that Lebanon Street is one way um during school hours that would be another solution that we can or that we clo or that we that it become
staff so that the the students and the family so that we close it so we'll we'll be looking and working through all that o stre is already a one way so it's already a one way traveling from Lawrence to Jackson Street if I'm not mistaken it's a one way no I think it's
a one way from yeah no right now they're using it as two-way well that one way from Jackson to um to the way what right from there and then yeah so probably recommending a one way sorry to interrupt probably recommending a one way during school hours all the way from
Lawrence through Jackson are are you making that part of that this or you going to sending that in differently okay we all set on that I just a couple real real quick points one is uh um the teacher parking uh if you're going to do that that needs to be
approved by this Council M Hernandez you and I have talked about other parts of the city where where that's happening so um this might be a good template if we make it happen here then we can apply that elsewhere where there are teacher parkings even though they haven't been approved by the council so we're going to do it the right way here that'd be
great um and the you want to add anything to that no no no just to confirm that correct we're just internally having conversations to think to think about recommendations and solutions but we'll go through the proper channels because we're also thinking Ley right we're not just thinking Oliver we're thinking Oliver
Ley in a possible solution for North Common which is the old high school comp so and and the last thing is my my colleague was I don't think you were here for the were you here for the Oliver vote no so uh this might make you feel a little bit better but not completely
better this was discussed uh parking was discussed I know that I brought it up uh several times and they were sick of me talking about it frankly um and and I was told they can just park at the Buckley and um I'm thinking to myself we we all know who how we are we
we go to Market Basket we park as close as we can to the entrance we don't park down a ways we want to be as close as we if you live on a street you don't want to park the next block over you want to park right in front of your house and that Dynamic will be the same here if
they're not able to park really close we are going to hear what what are you guys what are you people doing why what you have which which brings me to this point how many if you have this number when the old Oliver before we SPL it up how
many teachers were there then and then I want to juxtapose that with how many teachers we plan on there being now so do you know what that number is because that will just tell me how many parking this will tell me that this place frankly I didn't mean to trip you up with the question but that will just tell
me we didn't necessarily if we thought it all the way through we dismissed it and said it's going to be okay even though we know there's going to be my feeling is we we're having a lot more teachers starting in this fall than we did whenever the last time the Oliver had
his do open I don't by how many percent but a number and everybody drives no one's car pooling we're not many but everybody's going to drive so anyway that's that's my final points I don't we have a lot to do tonight we have we've got taxi cabs we got police reports we have a lot of other stuff uh any final
comments I'm going to ask for a motion and I ask help I need some help on this motion is this motion going to be to send us up to the full council with a favorable recommendation with the plants as submitted is that what we're doing because there's a lot of things here I don't necessarily
know yeah counselor I just want to answer your question in terms of how many teachers we're expecting about 200 to 250 at that building alone and and don't forget it's because it's becoming a kindergarten through 8th grade and prior
to that we only had first grade through five so I would say less than about a 100 or less than 100 teachers and of and in that count of two 250 you're we're talking calf workers custodial so it's
it's not just teachers it's all the staff that's right so that there's a there's a substantial increase that there what I have on my agenda here is a request to approve the alteration of the on street parking plan at the haval street and Oak Street in and around the Henri K Oliver school that's what was
put on the agenda um I I I don't know this order of public I don't so I I assume that would be requesting that to be done as per the plans I think the the the the I think the Chaw will be sitting
down with the city clerk because the way the the way the municipal ordinance is written they reference streets in by by by meets and Bounds and length so we'll have to identify those streets from point A to point B and say this will be
no parking this part will be parking and and I think that's the only way to do it um currently at this point do that's how the ordinance reads and and and typically if it's something like this if this was a random parking situation before the city council what we would do
is we would send it to the police department for their review now we have before us somewhere and you just gave to us here it is a series of you know letters from DPW and a fire department and the police department so
you got some from the police department so um in support of this um we we have done PL sorry preparation for this we didn't do this in silos we have had plenty of wraparound um meetings um that includes
the uh police fire water DPW all of those departments planning um around this specific plan so okay so this would be so the end point here is that if this is a normal thing we would send to the police department for their review we
would uh typically they would come back and give us maybe some meats and Bounds or something but we would also be ordering a public hearing because we're changing the ordinances of our city based on this and so if we don't have the meats and the bounds and all the the Dynamics the council should have
that whether it's here or at the full Council the full Council should definitely have should have that no again we're we're we yeah the reason we well not the reason we're presenting because it belongs here but also what this does and the reason we wanted to come this early in a way and
not really that early it's because um the engineering department for the project needs to move forward with then designing of the signs and then you know prepping the area um you know based on the plans but we
can move forward whichever way detective heger is here and and frankly he has drawn the Short Straw and is probably going to have to look at all of these particular items and he's very good at submitting memos to us which he has we have here tonight for other projects
he'll probably going to have to end up doing that so um I'm glad you're here detective so you can at least get a sensus to what we're facing uh having said that um counselors I guess is timing an issue I know you
school starts in the fall but we can't we can't drag our Hills for six months on this that's for sure but I mean you you know this right the sooner the better everything it however but you know we anticipated um all those things so if we needed to if we needed
to do a public hearing I think we're we're still within the time frame that that would allow for that that would allow for um the police if you wanted to so what I what I would recommend this is because I do understand that the the the amount of work for everybody is going to
include the police department as well frankly we could send this up to order of public hearing send it to the police department for their review that gives the police department essentially four weeks right because you're going to next Tuesday public hearing order public
hearing and that's if we get to the public hearing on the very next date that gives that potentially gives the police department some time to wrap their mind around that so I'm giving you some dates here does that provide any I
can't shorten it more than that frankly so it sounds like we would be back by the May meeting oh way before wait a second so there are we said four weeks and we're already at the end of May March we we would order the hearing on April 1st
m in the best case scenario we would have a public hearing on the 15th so it it it may skip over because the clerk is out some of the stuff May skip over a little bit so it may be the first meeting in May I don't know what
that first Tuesday is this guy seem to have all the answers everybody's going to him here's the OPM um Christian corvo he's with the answer advisory the OPM for the project does he work for the city no he works for the project for the
project okay okay so the first week of May would probably be fine okay so we do have some time is my is the point all right so I still would recommend that um detective hegy uh you I'm not sure how much you
were listening you probably thought you weren't be getting involved in this uh there's a lot of stuff here there's a bunch of places I mean if we get this to you starting um in after after next Tuesday um we could get this to your as
early as tonight frankly but um do you have any spitball what this might mean for you and how quickly you can turn things around I'm not looking to put pressure on you just in your normal workload how long would that take what do you would you be asking us to look into so right now what they're looking
to do is they're looking to have no parking and changing the parking configuration so essentially what we're going to be doing is we're going to be having no parking on some spots that's where the ordinances are so um and then we're going to this is a
good question the places where there is no parking right no parking are we going to allow parking there yeah so we would have to resend some of the no parking spaces pretty much be like parking not allowed pink parking out parkow so we could do meets and
Bounds L of so they would just need the me you just need the measurements of yeah you know from the corner 40 ft no parking yeah that's you know so I could uh I could talk to my land surveyor and have them do points and stuff to give you
meurs okay make it EAS yeah I don't see I mean it's already been approved I don't know who voted on our part I don't know who submitted it from us all we have from the police chief no offense to the police chief it was a very 60,000
foot we think this is a good project uh we support what you're trying to do but it didn't go into the granular details like you normally would meets and Bounds here's where this from this intersection to this point is where we should be having uh no parking or parking I got it
it doesn't have that I'm happy to give this to you so you have it so you I'm going to give it to you anyway sure at least four right but it's important that some like detective heav no absolutely I just also want to know that there were members of the police department at those meetings that also
that heard the this side to this side the measurements of was Street not just a letter that was okay so let's do this uh we can keep it here and wait for the police or we can send it up order a public hearing and then and then we'll have to wait to get the information because they're not
going to be able to draft the the City attorney cannot draft that without the language that comes from this from the police department right so um I don't I'm going to give my my opinion I don't have a problem writing essentially a blank check in this
particular case to say send it up to the maybe we do without a recommendation send to full counsel without a recommendation to order a public hearing orderorder a public hearing meanwhile we send this over to detective heg for him to start his work um at that
point we conceptually will approve of this conceptually we don't know what the exact place but maybe that's the way we go I'm going to look for a recom I'm looking for a motion that we send this up to the full Council I guess we do with a with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing and to also
send the information over to to the police department for their review so move second motion made by Vice chair re seconded by councelor Santiago any further questions on this matter see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it thank
you te this is for you all right next uh if there's no objection we're going to move on we're going to get rid of all these planning things uh 4625 resoning of a portion of city land off of Bay State Road in Jordan Street from General industrial I2 to open space
Recreation OCR is there any objection to taking this out of order see no objection Mr McCarthy Mr McCarthy Mr McCarthy Mr McCarthy 4625 you're up we're going to get rid of you
early only very Cooperative 46 uh you should have um a document in your package um from several weeks ago I submitted this on March 7th uh if you don't have a copy I
do have copies here we might have it does anybody need a copy I don't know it's it's it's in our other book if there is one what day was this 4625 you have it if you just gave it to me it a lot easier what I'm just curious I have it
here I do have it put it down thank you I don't have it so I was in front of this uh committee several months ago um to talk about Bay State Road which is a a piece of uh a portion
of Bay State Road run it's down next to the uh boys club and adjacent to the marry ma River it was overgrown with trees uh covered with dirt it became a homeless encampment and it was being used as a dump so the city um uh has
identified that property as a location for uh a sports facility in and a recreational park along the river it's part of a larger process we're trying to work on to develop the uh the upper uh banks of the Mary MAAC River for
recreation for the people in that neighborhood and for the city um I know that um my father grew up on Tower Hill my grandmother lived there his life and Tower Hill has always been very uh neglected as far as having Parks or
recreational areas uh some of the other areas of the city so we've looked at this area which is kind of um secluded and uh and in other ways dangerous try and open it up and this is the first step in that so we asked that the several weeks months ago that you
discontinue that portion of the bay Day Road which you did that's still waiting at city council for a public hearing there I filed two more requests before you one of those is to uh adopt a merger plan and that's um another document that's um it's still waiting to be heard
okay that is um uh that would be to um dedicate this as a park space but what I'm here for you tonight is is to ask that you amend the zoning uh district for this portion of land this portion of
land is currently um identified as an industrial 2 which is General industrial that's the most industrial part of the city uh there used to be factories here automobile shops um there was some contamination we have actually have an
LSP out there going on so we we're asking you to dedicate to reone this area from um industrial 2 to open space Recreation and again that would be asked and had to go up to the full court full the full Council and this has to go to a
public hearing as well so what we're we're hoping to do is to put the three the three matters together dealing with this new park uh for one public hearing one one vote maybe save a little money in advertisement and uh that would
probably be like sometime in May but we're we're asking you so in your packet you have um this went before the Lawrence planning board they reviewed the project they saw the uh we had a video uh showing the the new park and they approved this as a gave this a
favorable recommendation to change the zoning and that's what I'm going to be asking you to give this a favorable recommendation um we've been having several meetings and we're going to have some public hearings and you're all invited um to come to these but again this is a new park that we're building
down there it's going to be basketball multiport it's also going to be a walking path along the river so um multi- recreational and you have some sets of plans in there I know they're very difficult to read but uh again it's a uh
it's a it's a major move forward uh in the in the in the mayor's plans for trying to make this part of the city uh more more recreational less industrial okay um comments from counselors councel Del Rosario so we
just changing the Zoning for this lot right we it's not going to be another surprise that we changed the whole Zone and now we building something else we're only changing the area that's going to be the park uh the I think I have the numbers there it's it's about 12,000 a little over 12 000 sare
ft and I'm so on one side of it's the boys club and the the other side of it's an auto repair shop there's a water treatment there near that right there's a there's a grease uh company around the corner it's at the
corner of Bay State Road and Water Street they uh they process fats and stuff from it's not a it's it's not a pre use but that's couple thousand feet away House of Mercy is right there and I don't know familiar with house mercy so
that's right there uh and then there's a number of automobile repair shops on uh I can't think of the name of that street but this is going to be mainly that that part's going to be fenced off and the budding properties are owned by um a uh
Auto Repair not an auto supply company and by Alberto nun has own several Apostles land there the both theuts are very strong supporters of this um they've been plagued by vandalism and people camping out there and a lot of drug use so to see this get cleaned up
and put lighting and uh they think is a great benefit to the neighborhood nobody wants to talk about the water plant that's okay I have no issue I don't think there is one any else wish to speak on this matter just a couple things real quick so thanks to
our uh crack staff Mr Collins reminded me that base seal test ice cream was on Bay State Road at one time was it's a factory factory right so right right in here Lawrence that's where it was made and the other thing that's important too just to to throw this out there is that
this area people I've heard some comments from folks who are saying why are you putting a park there when you're talking about prime riverfront property can't you be doing something else and increase the tax base for the city and maybe put some buildings that do
something there and and increase the tax Spas but I think we had a conversation earlier you said that it's this isn't a flood plane so so yeah so it's it's it's a it's protected under the conservation is in because there setbacks from a
river uh protect areas and vegetated Borderland because this has already been industrialized it's uh it's still open to development but that entire area is part of a 100e flood plane and you can't build in the flood plane now without doing what's called compensatory storage
because the city owns that we couldn't do any other compensatory storage um the last time we were able to do a project like that was a boys club when they move the boys club from the front to the back that's why there's a big shallow area in the front of the boys club that's for the compensatory storage so there's no
really no way to do that so we have to keep this H in a way so that if the river does flood the waters can come back in and then recede uh we put buildings in the way uh the the state gets upset got so it really it doesn't
have any value as uh industrial okay and the last point on that is that where the boys club is now there used to be a ballpark there yes used to be called o solivan Park oan yes and oan park was named after a former state senator of some Renown uh who had
an amazing life story uh both here and in Canada where he educated and actually started the Canadian Football League up up in that part of the of the of this continent um and was very involved in Water Department issues maybe that's where the counselor was referring to but
water issues uh and was instrumental in in U in being a scientist uh for the city before he became a a very very highly respected uh state senator that spoke nationally on a lot of different issues long the short of it is that Park is is used to be it was the voice club
and we've lost the naming we've lost who this guy was and we've lost the naming of it it's a shame so um as we go forward and hopefully there's an opportunity for us to reclaim something that we have forgotten over time um at some point so the what I'm hearing tonight though is that we're looking to
do what we're looking to send this up to order a public hearing and at the full Council you want us to table that public hearing and or at least when we do when you have the public hearing we merge the three to be able to save some money because there's three related documents
together and this is the second of the three is that is that accurate yes okay all right so we can make that pitch if this if the committee wants to at that level so I'm looking for a motion to send this up to the full councel with a favorable recommendation is there a motion motion made by the Vice chair Rey
seconded by Council Santiago discussion see I call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the guys have it okay thank you don't you have one more we' got one more how about 5 5 5742
24 on page three this is an appeal to zoning on Jackson Street from R2 to to B1 between Kendrick Street and the spet river thank you so this is a uh document that was actually placed on the agenda by
councelor Lon um at a request from a resident um and I was asked by uh city council to do an assessment of the area and give a recommendation it this also went to the planning board and um and it
was reviewed by them um the request is to change this from a a residential 2 zoning District to a res to a a business one which is local business so the area we're talking about is is on Jackson
Street from Kendall I think it's Kendall it's okay to Irving Street in in the spet river so it's it's essentially two blocks it affects 22 properties I did there's a
breakdown of each individual property on the site so you have a map showing all the lots of the 22 properties on Jackson Street only two of them are conforming to the R2 residential district the other
21s are either commercial in some way or multifam with larger units than the two that are allowed in the not residential 2 so the residential 2 doesn't seem to be the appropriate uh the appropriate zoning this for this for area the other
the other interesting part of this is that Jackson street from the from the North Canal all the way to the methan line is either Zone B1 local business or B2 secondary business except for these
two blocks so I know there was a question about whether it was spot zoning this is almost the opposite of spot zoning it's uh it's reverse spot zoning so what we do is we have two blocks that are Slimmer in in the rest of the neighborhood but it's uh it's
it's being done to make the property more conforming to the rest of Jackson Street um we've already permitted a couple businesses in there under an office exemption for residential development we've got a um I think a temporary employment agency a real
estate a office there's also a uh a market there Bon Z Market uh in some real estate uh and some real estate offices there used to be a dentist on this street as well so there has been a long history of of commercial use on Street it does make sense and it's
probably more appropriate uh to bring some um office development so I believe the the request was done at a resident but um I've reviewed this with the city with the city attorney with the mayor's office and with the Department of Public
Works I think everybody's thinks is is has a favorable recommendation for this and I think it makes more sense for zoning period so as I said they we're talking about 22 pels uh of land that will be resounded and again it'll be
going from a residential two which is one single in two family homes and it'll be going to a B1 which is local business which is the least commercial type of business any comments by members of the
the committee to you madam Vice chair um can you explain this second picture because I see a proposal change on Al Street so you can see the little you have the one with a circle on it yes and
so that that shows you the color the tan color is local business B1 so the tan color all the way from the methan line down to Kendrick Street is B1 there's a
little bit of B2 at the intersection of Berkeley then once you pass the river and get on to the other side of Irving Avenue it becomes B2 all the way down to kman Street where it becomes downtown B3 so the entirety of Jackson Street is is
is mainly business um it's not at the same level as Broadway or South Union Street but there but it is you know there's liquor stores there's convenience stores there's different types of stores for the neighborhood that accommodate that and that's what
that's what B1 does it's local business it's the kind of stores that you'd want in your neighborhood uh y okay thank if there's already residential over there that's going to remain residential I'm looking at 233 Jackson Street which has 10 residential units
for example that's going to remain and it's going to be grandfathered even after the the zoning change is that yes yes so zoning was created in approximately 1950 I don't think any of these houses were built after 1950 so
they all predated uh but a lot of these houses were single and two family homes 50 60 years ago and now they're multifamilies because the the size of families are different and the nature of development is different so do we so um I'm just we're he's not
here tonight we are going to be talking about non-conforming uh housing units in this commit in this committee with the with the ISD director and uh that was going to happen tonight it's not happening clearly he's not here so um
when I see for the first one on 142 Jackson I three three residential units 144 for residential units is that what it's zoned for or is that boots on the ground and people went in there it's not what it's zon for that's what the that's what the tax assessor
card says it is card says that that may be accurate based on pragmatic realism in our city where you see a three family that very well could be four or five in there potentially I'm not saying that there is but there could be but because there is
a lot of growth in our city so that's what it's supposed to be as opposed to the tax the assessor card right okay and the last thing I just want to point out there is a number of different buildings here built in 1880 which is amazing and they're still standing today this is I think one of the oldest parts of our
city this especially alongside the river so it's fascinating to me to see that that uh that these buildings are still still around after doing the math in my head 150 years something like that beautiful homes um I know one of these used to be the home of Senator McGavin
who our Transportation Center is named after true okay I'm looking for a motion to send this up to the full council with pay recommendation to order a public hearing right order public hearing is there ation public hearing motion made by councelor Santiago is there a second second seconded by Council Vice chair
Reyes discussion see none I'll call the RO all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have thank you Mr McCarthy I think you're thank you all okay um we do have a lot of police dep
Department stuff but we do have somebody here from groundworks Lawrence I don't think this is going to take long I think we will be here for a little while with with Detective herity if there's no objection near the front of the agenda on page two there is a document uh 11425 Greenway 5K on August 11th is there any
objection to take this out of order seeing no objection um M grion welcome good evening counselors yeah hi how are you so you want to do a road race yes so every year um in August we
do the greenway 5K um it's an opportunity for participants to see the parks along the greenway um while getting physically fit they're seeing our city um and we work closely with the police department to ensure everyone's
safety um it's a great time so yeah trying to do it again this year all right August 11th oh I did send in um a message that it was it's the 10th it's not the 11th that was my error
August 10th all right so uh let me let me ask you this question yes when you went through all this did you go through this on August 11th or through this on August the 10th when when he went to the recreation department did you no yeah and I actually printed that email yeah no the recreation department has August 10th and that's the date that it should
be because the 11th is a Monday so so far I see an 11th on this one page and go to the next one let me see um did you did you say that you have something in Recreation Department saying that the tenth is okay do you have something yep I have um can you
bring it over please thank you is this in our packets I don't think I saw this um May an email all right thank you that's even better uh so here we go uh who is Eddie that's Eddie Eddie Rosa so you just want to say so thank
you so we've got clearance from the recreation department so I think everything else is pretty good so I'm looking for a motion from Full Council for a favor recommendation motion made by Council Del rosaro second by Vice chair Reyes I have to say this to you even though I
know you're really good at this just be mindful of the noise be mindful of the the park and I don't need to remind groundwork lawence leave it better than how you found it because that's what your mission is we I have to say that though but I know you will so thank you very much we'll uh come back on the 1 on Tuesday we'll have the final vote then
for for this permit sounds good thank you have a welcome all in favor say I disc oh sorry more discussion sure I didn't call the question go ahead Council I'm sorry uh we're starting at the Manchester Park and end up at n Mar Park correct it's beautiful
part I haven't seen it yet now this be good excuse let's see it you going to run it I I haven't I haven't been able but I did it once so I I I remember but it wasn't no the market park by one those days which is a little bit of a hill hill right yeah it's going to be a little different than than it's been for
sure no we all right uh could to call the question now all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have you want this back no you can keep that keep that yes thank you good night I get a gift okay detective hegy are you sir you
here for it what are you here for sir good evening good evening my name is Rolando Rodriguez uh I was Alia and uh we just uh thank you very much and uh my name is Rolando and I'm I'm a member of the church Christian Method Church in
the 422nd street in Lawrence Massachusetts sure just looking for a permission to use a COR cor Park stage area for a religious event that event will take place on Friday July 18 and
Saturday Jesus July 19 Ok Okay from 5 to 7 okay great you have any concern there you want to Campa own so good o Connell that's okay yeah because I heard that it's going to be reconstru are you gonna okay the The Band Stand area because you
it's that's not easy getting on that band stand over there so you just want that area yeah you're not going to actually get in there it's hard to get in there the place the let me just check one more thing I think we're going get hold on just make sure we got the sign offs so the 17th and the 18th what are
those is that a Saturday Sunday s uh Friday and Saturday Friday and Saturday from from Saturday Friday and Saturday from 5 to 7 while I'm looking at this please be mindful this is this is my district as well so I got people living um on Salem Street for example and some
people living on South Union Street y uh be mindful of the people who are living in the neighborhood so volume levels are important make sure that they're at a reasonable level that you're not interfering with people who are living in the periphery um that's that's the
request that I have and I'm still looking to see not not going to be any problem have you talked to the to the recreation department yes sir and what did they say to you because I'm not seeing it in here quickly
anyway under review what did they say to you on a recreation they they told me to be oh it's not not if I don't have like any food or things like that to solve you know sure just did did they have a conflict at all was there a conflict was
there was it was it was a date available was there any issues with the date for the for this yes no councilors anybody remember getting an email from ad Le onas I'm not seeing it um uh if you wouldn't mind I'm I'm not I
I'm only one vote here I I don't oppose setting this up because I I don't mistrust you so I what I do want to do is get something at the full Council level that shows that and I don't have it yet so what I would recommend is this as a as a as a motion we can send this
up to the full council with favorable recommendation pending documentation showing that there is no conflict um on the U lonell Park Bandstand area for that date and that we send correspondents to ad to send an email to
the city clerk and to the members of the committee I'm saying an awful lot awfully fast you got all that that's the hope that's the motion so I'm looking for that as a motion motion made by the Vice Chair seconded by Council of Santiago discussion sure you got that
all Maria up sure payable recommendation conditions pending and then getting correspondence or something over to ad so we can let us know it's green light you need that what you have in your hand what is that that that's what they they gave to me the let's take a look at that maybe that's more updated that would be
helpful it's probably the same thing we have in our packet it's not up it could be updated is there is there anything from the uh Parks and Recreation okay so I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppos no
yes have it so sir please come on April 1st APR come over here yes come here April 1 yes we're we're not we're only we're the committee but at the full Council all of us have to vote on the on the permit sure April 1st over here yes sir 7: all right but Mr Mr Rodriguez you
got to go to the recreation department first I have to go back over there yeah and have them give you or email us something to say that the park is available for that day that you need it okay okay but we we might have the email sure when you come but you want to bring something just in case a great idea all
right you want to go there and said they I got to see them Tuesday can you give me something saying the park is available just in case we don't get the email if you have it in your hands you have the park if you don't we won't be able to approve it okay so they have to send you an email they they give it to me usually they send it to us but in
case that they don't you might have something in your hands to show us that that it's available they'll give it to you over there absolutely a night be here next Tuesday okay sure sir great suggestion counselor thank you that's very good suggestion y I understood excellent suggestion all right so that
was favorable all right so councel we now it's called the detective herty show where he's going to we're GNA be here for a while all right uh let's see here we have we have two two packets of information I'm just
trying to get the census to which one which is the uh 55 25 so let's start off with the new stuff and then we'll work backwards I think that's probably the best way the first item that I have I'm going to go in the order of the the things that are in the packet that I have the ordinances okay
yep just going to go in that order the first one is 55 where is that 5525 got it page two uh let's see you have a favorable recommendation for 15-minute parking at this location
I'm looking for a motion to send this document up this is document 5525 with the full councel with a favorable recommendation order public hearing so second motion made by councelor Santiago second by Vice chair I'm sorry councelor that's you councel D Rosario discussion
see I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it next document is 31024 just bear with me I got to get this one writing hold on um order public
hearing uh this is 31024 uh request to convert Sarah toga Street to a oneway street yes correct that's correct yep thank you uh this one right here is a the police department's recommending to refer to
the city engineer city engineer correct okay for a a a traffic study um so I'm looking for a motion to send document number 31024 to the city engineer DPW is there a motion some motion made by the Vice chair second by
Council Del Rosario discussion seeing none all in favor say I I oppose no you guys have it sh if you could help me find the document in go this a little bit faster
number five I'm looking I'm looking for I'm looking for 310 number five page five yeah wow thank you that was that was to engineering
310 24 uh next document is document number 31124 this is uh to convert Royal Street to a oneway street um you were also recommending that we send this to the DPW city engineer yes sir okay looking
for a motion motion of Senator Ser engineer and DPW for Street study motion made by Council Del rosar second by Vice chair Reyes discussion C none all in favor say I iOS no the eyes have it uh Maria in case there's any
confusion anything that is submitted to for a study will automatically remain tabled we all agree on that counselors okay okay next document is 31324 uh this is another same thing referring to the city engineer and DPW
looking for a motion motion of C city engineer and DP motion made by Council delar second by Council Santiago discussion hearing none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it this
is 3:30 15minute parking at 241 thank you 241 South Union Street um Supermarket favor recommendation favor recommendation to order public hearing I'm looking for a
motion motion to stand for c for favor recommendation and to Republic hearing oh to a republic hearing motion made by Council Santiago second by Vice chair Reyes discussion discussion discussion Council delario
but we South Union it will go also under the meter uh you know that's right it should go it's I mean we we'll place it there but people needs to be aware that they is I wasn't aware that that part of
sou Union had they have to pay meters it goes all the unfortunately it goes all the way up yeah it's a it's a it's a convenience though a supermarket so it's open all day cuz sometimes they request that after parking meters or before the parking meters but knowing that it's a
supermarket it's going to be open they's say from 8 to eight right so I don't know if we need to revise the business to let the customers know that they that they have to pay the meters because now they want to get tickets I'm just looking give me a
second to look up uh Google search on this something and another thing through you CH that being meters in that area definitely meters people are not going to say long enough that I'm assuming I
don't know because they get ticket I I don't remember what we have done in that area I don't I I don't record but I know that we have 15 minute parkings on Broadway they they have to comply with the
meters let's let's so there is 50-minute Park parking on Broadway like 20 I think it's a 30 minutes by Taco Lupita I think it's two of them if I'm not mistaken there two business that we that we requested but they still have to comply with the meters that there the next the
next ordinance that you're going to read is for 152 Broadway and they definitely have meters out front as well oh I can I can I can vouch there's definitely meters in front of this place there's no doubt about on sou there's meters of South Union is almost on 495 so it's all the way up there yeah so we favor
recommendation but I don't know how they work that out with the meters so I I do have I do want to have just a bit of a conversation with my colleagues I need some help on this so we have meters there the idea behind the meters is to move traffic along so no one is staying there for a certain amount of time what
we're hearing here from a business owner is that that is not that that's that's that's still not good enough even though the ideas behind the meters to move people because no one wants to pay so no they'll Park frankly they'll park on the side Street you know for free and
they're not going to park there I'm just wondering what kind of real I don't understand what kind of real issue there is cuz people don't really want to park and do they have a did you go visit do they have a parking one of these places got a they have is this it right here is it Rubio rubo Rubio they have an entire
parking lot they have a vacant lot that's converted counselors I don't know this is my district but I just I mean they have a whole parking lot in the back that goes all the way back there yeah I think that's and over in South yeah and
I also can give you I mean there was a there was a business order uh 15 20 minutes on Broadway and when she knew that parking M was going to be there she told me to withdraw that that would be quiet so I mean one of the things this we're learning through this one of the
things that I would look for from you in help of the rest of the committee if you if if you go down there even if you do it by you know IND digitally if you see a parking that's associated with that location that's going to be helpful because the question I would ask is why why do we need to have more if you
already have parking more restrictions more restrictions so I've got some real questions I so Council we can certainly send this up to the full Council order a public hearing I think you know how I'm going to be voting for it once it comes out but we're going through the process so if you want to go ahead and do what
we normally do and maybe counselors who are at large think oh my God really need to have that there well they'll vote right so it's up to you Council I leave it to you this is we represent them as well what do you want to do on this set up with the recommendation order public hearing or do you want to I I feel weird
about withdrawing it without all of us having a chance to vote but looking for a motion we have a few options we can we can we can withdraw it we get s it up without a recommendation we can send it up with a recommendation order a public
hearing I think those are our options can we send and and to me the parking in the size that's the thing that's even bigger to me that's why are we doing that with we could we could table it here
have we can table it while she go and now have the conversation with them I mean the police the police job is already done so I mean just having the conversation and say look this is the situation can we go together yeah there you go so motion to table motion Council the table second Vice chair Rees all in
favor say I oppose no the eyes haven't so let me just say that um we're not over we're taing that one all right so the next one the next one is 152 Broadways uh 15minute parking um according to the police department detective you guys are
saying yes and have noted there's meter parking there correct counselors um what are we doing here and there is no parking lots and by the way can anybody see 335 or 24 there what 335
24 I'm looking the numbers are all over the place there it is I got it thank you okay Council so um I'm looking I think the same thing's in order here um but I'm looking for a
motion except I don't think they have parking at their location like there isn't table you want to talk with them okay as a motion to table by Vice chair raay is there a second seconded by Council Del Rosario all in favor say I oppose no
the eyes have it that's 335 table next one is [Music] it's adjacent to Princeton Village which is a extremely large condo complex or apartment complex um I don't know if they have some of there people that Park that live
in the Princeton Village Park on Josephine AV but also that intersection your this is your East havil Josephine and Hoffman AV there's several construction projects going on right there so I don't know if there's plans to redesign that whole area already with
the state I think it that I think there several State projects going on there right now yes when I put the item was before the the the construction there and right now it is
confused and about the resident parking they have the the building over there they have the parking the the josephin Avenue they don't have parking that's why they request me their resident for them for
josephin Avenue just for the residence of Josephine yes all right so what are we doing are we gonna send this to the DPW or we're going to table it until I mean is the construction so bad that this is not an issue I mean this is we can't do anything at this point I don't know how
long construction is going to continue I mean I I mean what are you what are your thoughts counselor this is your area yes we could table it we can go forward if we go for that means we're sending it to DPW and maybe they come back and they say because they might know more of what's in store for that whole
intersection I mean it's it's quite a big construction project right now yeah they reconstructed the whole area they were here present in that small area they're going to because there's a weird kind of intercession right on the bottom of of
East hav right so somehow they going to level it up and they want to put it I don't know they brought it into us so but it's up to the consul whatever she would like to do I would like to send for the city council H the resident park
for sorry for the uh DPW for the ER resident parking you want them to study and study yeah okay so just like the other ones we're going to make a motion to send this to the DPW and city engineer for their review and provide their findings back to the committee is that what we're doing yes is that's a
motion so motion made by councelor Santiago second by Vice chair Reyes any further discussion see none all in favor say iose no guys have it and the next one we start all right the next one is
document 43524 this is uh again is this the same what is this this is this a duplicate no oh there's a one way this is a one way yeah one's a resident this one's a one way one way okay so this you're looking
for DPW again right yeah uh looking for so moot looking for a motion to send this to the engineer and DPW for their review motion made by Council Santiago second by Vice chair Rees discussion saying none I'll call the question all in favor say I I all
oppose say no the eyes have it well Josephine Street my goodness uh 43524 this is our third one what is it the same one what is going on that's should four one's 435 once 434 yeah all right
we'll go to 529 because I think we taken care of that one 529 uh this is uh to convert Columbus a to a oneway street again the recommendation to city engineer DPW Council delario so move thank you second uh motion uh to send it
to DPW and City Engineers made by ccar second by Vice uh by Council Santiago P three you said all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it yes ma'am so uh perhaps if you don't mind um
in those that that that's the case uh we emphasize this is a follow-up request I don't even know it could be a third for all I know but a follow-up request Council just for the for the record all the ones that I'm submit or recommending for the city engineer in DPW it did say
in the notes part of it refer to Y them anyway that's why I that's a great point we haven't gotten it yet so uh you've the police have done their part the only thing that's holding us back is DPW engineering so that's the thing
excellent all right so this sounds like all of them so next one is 53124 Tenny street from mington to Whitman Street oneway Street Street uh this is city engineer DPW looking for a motion so Move Motion made by Council Del Zar
second by Vice chair Reyes discussion seeing none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it next document is uh um 53224 um resident parking on bramfield
street um looking this is again looking to get a traffic study to the city engineer in DPW looking for a motion so motion made by councelor Santiago second by Vice chair Reyes discussion say none I'll call the question all in favor say
I I oppose no the eyes have it a do ment number 53324 uh requesting parking resident parking at 73 Irving a council this is um yeah let's let's stop and talk about that for one second go right ahead it's
a single family request yes however it's right next to the new Ley school so I think it's the same argument for concerns that we just listened to with the school department and Mr McCarthy I think the next three are the
same thing parking in and around the school so can you imagine so they're trying to have parking and now we're just trying to so the next three ordinances are all based around the Ley school is it people trying to get ready for what's coming exactly that's what it is you heard Mr
maccari I mean Miss Fernandez say there's Hernandez the 250 teachers coming to the new Oliver school and I'm sure it's going to be pretty close to the same amount of teachers at the Ley yeah and it's and we got to be prepared
it's the Ley it's the Oliver and it's also the old Orange High School that they bringing the Albert in there so it's it's it's it's it's going to be lovely in that area yeah don't drive it to30 in the afternoon or 8:00 I'm looking for five so counselors um I'll
let somebody here make a motion I mean through you chair I mean on the bottom the police department me has in common and it say communicate between lawen school and the city regarding possibility of parking so I mean we should table this and send correspondents to either either the
Consular to have communication with this item with the school department to figure it out what exactly the plan is and then she can move forward with the request I mean that's yeah so so the question H okay so uh are we looking to table
this here for is that what we're doing here we're at a table so we can follow up with the school department after what we just listened to tonight okay and I I do know yeah looking at the school the Ley school I mean it is surrounded by uh you know single family three
family houses there's not many there's only a business the closest business I think is at Lawrence and Irving but so the whole school surrounded by homes well I at the risk of furthering this there there may be a happy medium
here where you have resident parking to a certain time during the day so people can right from like six o'clock at night till like 8: in the morning or something like that or 7 or something I'm not sure what the right time is but right there may be that option
to try to cut the baby in half whether that works or not is a different story all right but is there a motion to tables motion made by Council Vice chair Raz there second second second by Council Del Rosario all in favor say I I oppos no the eyes have it next is
53424 this is a similar thank you this exactly a similar similar situation this is for um just so I can read into the record resident parking on Trinity Street um and our if our colleagues are watching this meeting at home they'll understand what we're trying to do here
which is trying to figure out how we're dealing with having how many students how many teachers 200 what they said the all was going to have between 200 and 250 we know there's not that many parking and I think all those teachers R drive so good luck right that's crazy that's a lot of cause um motion table
maybe same thing motion motion made by Vice chair Reyes seconded by Council Santiago all in favor say I know the eyes have it and as the detective said this is the 535 24 the last one this is for oh what
this is a little different this is for no parking on one side of buswell street you give a fa recommendation recommend the matter be sent to the city engineer and DPW that's not near the school is it
no okay um looking for a motion to this to DPW and city engineer for their review so motion made by councelor Santiago second by Vice chair R Us discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all
in favor say I I oppose no eyes have it uh 53624 requesting a no overnight parking on the south side of 3 96 Water Street so help uh favor recommendation
so are we just looking for no overnight parking just in front of 396 or that is there is there a block or how far is this going that I don't know if that the ordinance said 396 which I believe is is the water
department who put this on was it a part department who put this this is by Council marel uh let's take a look 396 through you I think that's what what the what the curb side is right like with it with a the curves right there a gentleman I think the leaves on 396 they've been
complaining for years the car is speed off and some of them hit around his house or near his house I think someone took out a fire hydrant over there last summer yeah so I'm assuming that's what it is it's trying to make the road a little wider I said cuz if nobody parks on that
side I'm assuming to that but I I yep but I remember that gentlemen coming in a few times here calling and emailing too what's important and I don't just I used to represent this area and I liveed at the I lived on a street so this is right at the bottom of it so
um what's important here is the way that it's worded it says the south side of Water Street that's a long it's a long Street of course we need to we'll need to have some sort of I I don't think you want no parking along the entire Water Street because that's what we're about to do that I don't think that's what we're looking to do so we need to have
some sort of boundaries as to how far where does this person um cons Mar was the one that requested but I'm assuming the I remember the address in the house the gentleman was concerned of car spining off and then
taking that curve and and hitting his house on the other side so but I mean what's in what's in conso of maral's mind when it comes to that area because she lives in that area too if I'm not mistaken so I I so so we so a street is
where is where Riverside Drive comes to one section and on the other side of a street is Water Street so that's like the line where it shifts from Riverside to Water Street correct so the question so we we're pretty confident that going to start at a street essentially that the intersection of am Street and Water
Street and then go Eastward and the question is how far how far down and I'm not I don't think any of us are comfortable answering that question because we don't know what the counsel is looking for for right so uh and and in in all honesty to you
if if this was the entire Water Street would you have the same recommendation no no so I don't feel very comfortable sending this up because we need to get more clarification my recommendation to this committee is to is to table this matter contact counselor marmel and get
from her how far is she looking for this no parking on South on on the south side of Water Street and then after that we give that back to you and you could then make your recommendation whether you think it's a great idea whatever whatever your recommendation is okay so that's what I would I would
recommend motion to table item 56324 motion to table and to send uh correspondence or communication to councelor marmel asking her to to narrow the scope or probably more more U detail
on the mo on this request agree motion made and with that as part of the motion and second by councelor Santiago all in favor say i h no the eyes have it give me a second this is last one on this packet
56334 to convert sherid and na to a one-way street again the recommendation is to get findings from DPW city engineer for a motion motion to s for for city engineer and DPW for the
recommendation and it's made made by councilor Santiago secondary by Vice chair Rees everybody know what page this is on got it got it got it got it um all in favor say I I post no you guys have it
all right we're done with that stuff now other stuff tax taxi caps what tax caps are next no there's another package another package right uh document 252
24 thank you uh this is a um no parking on 402 low Street go detective you have a recommendation I'm going to let you say it go ahead unfavorable recommendation to this request for no parking in front of the residents more
information of why there's no parking why she requesting no parking in front of her house of their house it's a for it's a residential house so so so it's an unfavorable
recommendation and and you want they have not made an argument to you as to why there needs to be one and because of that you're you're I don't have any background information on it okay so I just I mean it's a residential
house it's it didn't they didn't come before a counselor this person did it on their own I don't see a counselor's name on there um all right councilors we have U we have options again um withdraw favorable
table um looking for a motion is this in our packet I just want to see if we have it on here well there it is look at the original U the original
request should I read this out loud I'm trying to get a permit for my driveway I live at 402 L street the reason why I'm requesting a sign or a permit don't park here to corner of driveways because the business in front of my house the business in front of my house
people always park there in front of driveway and go to the business and leave their cars on and no one can get out this is happening more often and they don't understand when you speak to them just trying to do this to avoid any conflict or problems with these individuals and please put some speed bumps on L Street uh sent by the
resident uh this this sounds like a driveway issue people are parking it sounds to me like they're parking too close to a driveway people always park there in front of the driveway and go into the business and leave their cars on and no one can get get out so I think there's a businesses there's a few businesses across the street or a little
bit further down so the question so this has been a problem that we've been facing which is and legitimate problem this woman is facing an issue um people are parking in front of there what we could without the ordinance is
DPW can put a a sign there for example and say no no parking going forward because it's from here to the driveway or something like that and we don't need have an ordinance because you can't park I forget the you tell me how many feet if you know how do you know how many
feet away from the driveway I don't know so but there find out there is a number and get what did you NT netet okay that makes sense so it could be something like that but just for your purpos I would double check that um but anyway I
do agree so what I would recommend is that we send a correspondence to this uh send this letter and ask that the DPW rather than having an ordinance put a sign there that prohibits the parking within X number of feet from the
driveway that way we eliminate because there's already a law that says it so that would be my recommendation I don't want to order public hear and waste of money on it yada yada I'd rather spend the money on a sign so anyway uh that would be my motion that would be my recommendation recom recommended motion would be to to
send this up with the council with the motion to withdraw and send correspondents including this document to the DPW and ask them request that they put a sign at the appropriate Place alongside the driveway they they'll need to figure out if it's 8 feet 9 feet
whatever I don't know what that number is I'm sure okay and she's sure so if you're if you're going to go to Foxwoods tonight on that you're going wi it's n because I got a conversation with with the DPW director I got similar case like that and they request no parking and
East H and Prospect okay okay CR and the director told me oh they cannot park in either because they are n they are not 9 ft and they request at least 9 ft okay looking for a
motion so move you want go ahead motion to withdraw and send it for the DPW to put in no parking here to driveway yeah I'll give course on it so that they can see it all right
motion has been made by Council Santiago secondary Vice chair re all discussion all in favor say I I OPP no the eyes have it what was the number of that again that was number 3 255
250 252 24 252 base page four 252 252 you saw it thank you thank you so table
withdraw excuse me withdraw uh thank you next document is 250 already did 252 all right two 30524 um this is uh modify parking what or make a
oneway okay let's find out oh okay uh do you do you know where this is 305 did you check too bus to put the street what is it I was too busy to put the street down okay what's the street I don't know okay we're g to find that out
suspense is killing me 305 it say Lynch street that sound about right yes and you want to send this P you want to send this for traffic study correct um for a motion item
30524 for DP and traffic study very good DPW engineer for traffic St has been made by Council Santiago Z second second by Vice chair Reyes all in favor say discussion sorry all in favor
say I I oppose no the eyes have it our batteries are loow Council we're almost done I can just I get just s the enthusiasm we've lost it we're going to get through this 30824 Magnolia Street One
Way looking um that's fascinating here's my editorial comment for the evening so counc Rosario you had the the mayor and the DPW director and you still can't get an engineering report out of them
what is going on police want to make a motion counselor to the DPW to the engineer motion to resend this with DPW and the engineer for traffic study it should be easy in manolia it's just a
couple of blocks right so it should be done pretty quick I mean got a lot of muscle on that you got a a high octane city council you got a dput On A Mir all in favor say I no the eyes have it next is document
49424 that is a request for no parking at 160 Garden Street why is this is New York it's like a New York Times crossword puzzle I have to search for the dog you got that already look at you
for I I spoke to the the uh the people that put forth this ordinance request they wanted originally no parking because her father's in a wheelchair and the ramp that comes out of their building there's always someone
parking there and it had they use a van service so I had about a half a dozen conversations with the family I went by there took pictures and after talking with the daughter um we thought it probably use a handicap
spot instead of a No Parking okay this is going to sound crazy this this is going to sound crazy I'm going to recommend a couple of things just okay you didn't you we went back and forth trying to figure out what's the best cost of action and the
request the request was for no parking right I don't think we can just change it to a handicap parking but we what we can do to make life a little bit easier for this individual ual is to withdraw this and put on the agenda for handicap
parking at the next as as new business that way we can deal with it and then you've already done the leg work on it so it should go fairly quickly but once you open it up and you start I'm you know I'm going to you know that's that's a little bit beyond the color of what we can do if was 13 minutes to 15 minutes
to a half hour parking that's different but from a handicap parking which is a different kind of ordinance than a okay no parking that's that's that so that's my recommendation that we do two things that we withdraw this document and that we ask the clerk to put this under new business for the next full city council
meeting that be on my recommendation so motion made by councelor uh Santiago is there a second second by Vice chair Reyes discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say iose no the I have that's withdrawn place that's a new one place
as new business that's hand account next document is 3425 is the removal of a hand oh I love this one removal of the handicap parking at 57 Bigalow Street um favorable favorable okay so we're going to set a
uh what do you want to do on this counselors we need at some point a order a public hearing but looking for some sort a motion motion to full coun recommendation to order a public hearing motion made by Council raro second by Vice chair Ray as uh
discussion just wanted to look at this real quick um what page is it 32 February 4th great there's several in here that have uh request for removal of handicap I believe all of them the houses have been sold did you did you check and talk to
did you could check I didn't check talk to the individual people I read the notes from the uh okay the ordinance and I think all the bu excuse me the address are they moved all the houses are sold that's what they're saying in in the doc that's what I'm looking up right now that's what they're saying is that
the moved well I can't find all right so the motion's been made right it's been properly seconded I'll call the question over a public hearing all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have it that's
three next document is 3525 removal handicap parking at 39 East table Street what is your recommendation and did you go to this property detective I'm sorry what was the number 30 5 25 uh removal handicap parking at 39 favorable recomend East cable Street
did you go to the property did you did you go to the property did I go to the property itself no sir yeah what what are you basing that on um the the recommendation the notes that they submitted with the ordinance that the house was sold the
property was sold so this is the the the the request from the the resident who asked for that that's what you're basing that on okay looking for a motion motion is full counil with a fav recommendation to motion made by Council
Rosario there a second second second by Vice chair Reyes discussion C none I'll call the question all in favor say I iOS no the eyes have it uh 3625 uh removal handicap parking at 67 farum Street favorable
recommendation again uh what's what's the basis of the recommendation detect on the notes that were submitted from the petitioner is that the same same thing where they said they were moved somebody moved okay um looking for a motion motion to send a full Council
recommendation hearing motion made by Council delar second by Council Santiago discussion see on I'll call the question all in favor cios no the eyes have it this is the all right I'm looking for you uh
5625 this is a resident parking only for 6 and8 Monmouth Street um the request was only 6 to8 Monmouth yeah um however there's only three houses on that end of the street
so I if you're going to do it for one house M could you do it for the the whole the other two houses like I don't know so I mean it's a favorable favorable recommendation but there's all two other houses there's only three houses in the
whole street so so you want so you're recommending the whole street that section of Mouth from Park to the dead end Park to the then that to me that makes sense I I gives me the Hees if
just you just carve it up one person that doesn't seem very there okay looking for uh so you want why would you do we typically send that to DPW we do don't we for we do right for Resident parking we said it the DPW
resident parking yes or no uh anybody remember the person request requesting the resident parking only for SE d a right what is that mean two do four small Street he's extending it to
the whole street essentially that whole block the first house is two 2-4 the the middle house is 68 and then the one that's near the corner is I think number 10 what would I hate to overthink this let's say you're one of the houses down
the street and you don't have a problem but you've got a bunch of people visiting now now you didn't want this you had no idea this is resident parking was going on now you got resident parking and it's going to be a public hearing of course I don't know the situation I'm painting a a picture right
of would I be upset if I was living one of these houses and all of a sudden I got people coming over or whatever and I I now I I got to tell them to go to the police department I didn't ask for this why why did you change it nothing was bad was happening would be my argument if I was one of the other people so I'm just throwing that out there I I think
it's a bad idea I just it concerns me a little the tree house have the same face because sometime we have uh two house on the same street and the another house is uh looking through the another Street sometimes
number last year or something similar I I believe number 10 is the LA is not the last house there's a house on the corner with a park street address is that what yeah I don't know I I just whose district is this why am
I you know I I you know in all honesty I I feel really weird this is her District she's going to have to take a vote but I I don't if it was me if I was in her shoes I would I would want this committee to let me know prior to the vote that way I can figure out how I
feel about that because I I don't want to look at it that night and say oh my God how I you know without having a chance because they're going to end up tabling it my recommendation in this particular case is to table it here and just like we did with council marmal is to send something to council lison saying this is the situation here you
tell us what you want us to do we could go the whole street if you want right but it's going to be it's your District you're going to face the heat either way you and and I and I understand that it also you don't request resident paring
for a couple of houses you request for entire block you know or or entire Street you don't request it for two houses I mean even though this is a dead end right the approach that I would have take as a conso is that I would have take the request and I would have knocked on the other door and said listen the neighbors
are asking it's only one house the neighbors are asking for this do you want it also the consideration is that how many people park in that dead end yeah did they need residential parking only so but that's a conversation that she needs to have with the
constituents I mean that that's what I would do I mean because I got you cuz you don't come I mean I never seen here at the city ccil the time that I've been here asking for residential parking for one house or two house only it's just entire street right last year we had a
couple issue because we had some people requesting resident parking on P cor Jackson but the house be and the corner on the con Jackson They had they driveway in
park but they not allowed to be ins side because the regular address was in Fr the ja so I want to figure out because I don't want to have the same issue because when the
city help out after they go to find out to cons to the issue so I want to make sure so all that being said are we tabling this and she did put it on so so what you want you want to you want
to send it up to the full council is that what you're is that what you're suggesting no no you want to table and and have a conversation with the councel same day okaying to counil very good so what's your motion motion to table and send councilor motion to council ran for
clarification how's that on this issue motion made by councelor uh Vice chair re second by councelor Santiago so all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have it okay we're almost done where are we um I've
lost two more 7225 uh Hillside a um so we're parking on one side trash issue blah it's a bable recommendation but
DPW is looking you're looking for DPW um recommendation all right looking for a motion motion to send a DPW for recommendation second motion made by counselor delar second by Vice chair Rees discussion see none I'll call the
question all in favor say I oppos no guys have it um last one on this bunch is 80 25 this is a handicap parking sign on Basswood Street adjacent to 23 Alder
Street um so this is a fable recommendation you put the meets and the bounds on there so looking for a motion motion to full C to public motion made by Council Del Rosario second by Vi uh by councilor Santiago discussion C none
I'll call the question all in favor say I motion of the I uh counselors I need to hit the restroom you want to take over or give me give me 90 seconds up to you motion the table me recess or you want to take over motional recess motion
five minute recess five say [Music] e e discussion hearing now I'll call the question in favor say I I no the eyes have it all right let's just go to the
top and go through it and bring it to the taxi cabage pretty quick I think um document number 9925 no parking Zone Blancher Street West Side from farum farum oh yeah to the property
line um looking for motion to send this to the um police department and DPW I'm always I can I be honest with you when do we send it to DPW do we have a hard do we have a hard rule on
that do we no I guess we don't all right to DPW yes or NOP how we do when it get to them I don't know motion made s to both departments is there a second second
seconded by councelor Del RAR who made that motion Council Reyes okay uh discussion hearing none all in favor say I know the eyes have it and police department okay next document is 125 resident parking only Washington
Street uh Council Del Rosario motion DPW in the police department made by Rosario seconded by Council Santiago discussion see and I'll call the question all in favor say I I get time all in favor say
IO I yes oppose no the eyes have it tired 10125 resident parking Lake Street Council Del Rosario motion DP in the police department second motion been made by Council Del raro second by Vice
by Council Santiago discussion he now I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it okay taxi caps we received from you detective a memo saying that
um everybody has all the paperwork filed appears to be in order correct memo all proper checks were conducted and on file with the Lawrence Police Department hacking division correct okay Council uh this is there very few times that we
have an opportunity to do this this is now and then next is the actual full Council uh thank goodness for taxi cabs in our city they provide a service that's really important to many of our residents and thank goodness that they're there and so uh it's good uh
however there are times when there are we get complaints about some of the taxi cab companies for example laying on the horns you know uh people people using the horns as a doorbell you know where where where we we there's people living people sleeping people going to work
people trying to study yes and and that's that's a chapter 9 violation thank you and so and so this is our opportunity if if we if there's a taxi cab company that we find that's been a little not so good at
that oftentimes they would be here and we would have a conversation with them now I don't know why they're not here tonight did did do we know if they were invited to be here the taxi companies yes no they were not invited to be here they weren't it was just us submitting
the paperwork saying that they're all in compliance with the business packets that they had to fill out with regards to them running the owning and running the business gotcha so that's one of the small one of the things as well is that we want them to be we want them to be
here we're going to everybody else who we give permission to shows up for a license or a permit we would table something if they don't have it so anyway they're not here when do the when do these things expire December 31st has so they have
been without a license now for about three months no they've been in compliance they had everything submitted and just by the time we put everything together and okay so they're they're not really in compliance just so we're clear we're
all new with this right we're the ones that give the council okay gives the the license that's our Authority so if they don't have a license from the city council they don't have a license to drive now there may be circumstances
where they send their application in on time and then they get grandfathered through some sort of language inside the Mass general laws I don't know yeah um but we're the ones that do it we rely on you right to give us the information and
which is like just like the handicaps like everything else you give us a recommendation so you're recommending on all of these you've done the work and you say they're good to go all I'm suggesting is that this is our time the horn thing is a big issue in my district especially in the quieter neighborhoods we don't want to hear the Norms um I
haven't seen as many speeding sometimes in the city I see double parking going on which drives me crazy as well um of there may not be cabs but sometimes they are cabs that are doing it so we just need to be if they were here I would remind them of that but they're
not here right I don't know in the past if they have come here on tonight they have maybe not most recently I have been on the committee you were here did they show up like in the past yes they have when I years ago when I was a chairman
of the ordinance committee they were here um Whenever there was and we had this opportunity to talk with them and then frankly it gave them an opportunity to talk to us they had concerns and we would listen to what they had to say um it was a good conversation right so
we're missing out it's the point okay and I will make note of the the horns and the speeding and that that's uh I haven't really seen the speeding so much and the double parking the double parking yeah but that's just my
observations yeah councelor Del Rosario through and that's something that I always ask I mean well I haven't seen them come in and I've been here four years now so I haven't seen them command Chief Bonia was the one coming presented it everything was fine so I always have
the question we come in they come in we approve it but who regulates them on the streets I mean rarely you see a c driver pull over by state trooper um 4:30 in the morning across the street from my house that's my
alarm um and it's a violation of the chapter 90 um the noise and we want them to work right but I've been in the city 30 years and they they haven't upgraded the way they worked now you have UB that doesn't be the horn but they have an app
that you know what the car is right um no consciences if it's anybody sick a baby new baby born that is sleeping so but again there is nobody after this people to regulate them we just approve the permit they go out and work because we want them to work but after that they
on their own I mean there's no regulation or anything they violate all type of laws back in the days I see taxic drivers only when you call them now you see them everywhere at any time putting in to pick up people from the street pick up and all that kinds of
stuff but what I'm what what I'm hearing like like well I'm experiencing that on myself 4:30 in the morning I can I can show you the my cameras I have an alarm clock that I don't have to put in because I know that driver is going to go there at 4 4:30 in the morning and he's going to be the one I know what
time it is when he gets there and and again if you picked up that person and every day at 4:30 in the morning don't you have something set up already that you don't have to wake up the whole neighborhood small Street Juniper Street so and he comes from from Allington Street beeping the horn okay he turns on
Juniper and allt from there 4:30 in the morning where there's nobody around but again I don't see I don't see them I don't I never seen a c driver coming in to pay a fine for any violation that they have and we love I
love all of them because I probably know most of them but we need to regulate those things is they again that's a violation a chapter 90 the noise and that's what we get the most okay um they don't do what do okay I want you to know that they don't they don't beat the
ornament not even at Walmart they're not allowed but here Market Basket in Lawrence everywhere I think they they they they they get home happy when they horn happy when they when they when they hear Lawrence well I will we need to we need to have that conversation with them we don't want them to stop working but
we need to have some type of conversation with them when to I work with Sergeant p and Jaris and addressing some of the chapter 90 issues that you guys are concerned about and see if we can work with community policing and start enforcing some of the the
laws try to cut it out a little bit okay so do you want a conversation or you want us to enforce there's a law the law needs to be enforced but I mean before you I mean probably some of them don't know probably some of them don't know that there's a violation of the law they
probably think that this is what we do as a cap drivers and and this is what we do but they need to know that it's a law that they violated they they the horn at same time or any okay well uh I'll work with Sergeant pandarus myself and I we'll either have a meeting with the
owners and or talk to community policing the Traffic Unit and try to enforce some of these these concerns one of the things go ahead in the past when the CH
uh come to presenting us the the item to approval also the the participant sitting in the back so I want to see that so they've been here you're saying okay so they're out here tonight so here's so I asked the the original
question question which was when did their license has it expired are they driving now without a license by the city council I don't know that answer I can find that out and that's the challenge that I'm facing right now because I would offer to this committee to consider I'm not saying we should do
this but we should consider inviting them to the next meeting here and have a conversation with the Cal drivers and like any other entity that's looking for a license and I'm not saying it's sure fault I don't know what happened over
the last either this year or the last few years why we haven't done that but that's an incredibly helpful tool because then they have an understanding that they are account we're the permite so they I think it's a great idea
we're they're not entitled to a license it is it's granted to them they are petitioning and we are going to say yes to them but they need to understand that that that the counselor from District C and myself maybe others as well have concerns and they should be aware of
that and as the license the permittee they should know that's coming from us so I asked this committee we could table all of these matters tonight and invite them to the next meeting or we can just say we're not going to worry about it this year we'll worry about it next year
it's up to this committee I would like I mean I can go either way we've already they it appears as there if they've if it's already if it's December 31st and this is already this has been three months right now another two weeks is not going to you're not
going to pull anybody you're not going to pull anybody over for a lack of a license I don't think are you lack of a license by the city council you haven't done it yet right when you mean license you mean like taxi license or do you mean talking operating a business a license
to operate a business that I will have I don't know the exact it hasn't happened yet um it's my point and you probably could have if you if you wanted to frankly but you not you DET have any but the police department right has done it
so my recommendation at this point if you're going to if you the police department has that approach we're going to take advantage of that by saying you know something if you're not going to pull them off the street we're going to have a conversation with them we've had a recommendation I would recommend that we table this matter uh and ask Teresa
to contact the taxi cab companies and invite them to to the next meeting and I could talk to Teresa it'll be the the two Tuesdays from now like the the 8th of April would probably be the next meeting that would be my recommendation so I'm not sure how you feel about that
I'm I support it I support it that's fine but if I don't get if I don't get three votes this is going nowhere so it's up to my colleagues how they feel about it yeah I recomendations so there's a motion to
table this and and request that our our confidential secretary invite the um all the taxi cab companies to be at our April 8th meeting for their license discussion okay it could be short it
could be long I have no idea but they should be here there's a motion's been made is there a second second by Council Santiago any further discussion see not I'll call the question on favor say I oppos no the eyes have it so uh that was
for document number 10225 um we're going to table I'm going to read them all can we do them all in Block document 10225 American Taxi number 10325 Liberty Taxi Incorporated
10425 popular taxi company 10525 marac taxi Corporation 10625 festar Express Transportation 10725 Rio Hondo transport LLC 10 10825 L&M transport LLC 10925 NYC
United Express Incorporated 11025 Town Livery Incorporated and just in case we didn't get this one um 10225 American Taxi um looking for a motion to um to table and and and invite them by either
email Andor phone call to our April 8th meeting is there a motion motion motion May Council Vice Chair seconded by councelor uh Santiago all in favor say I I oppos no the eyes have
it 1125 handicap parking at 43 a street um looking for a motion to send this to the police department for their review some motion made by councelor Santiago second
by Vice chair Reyes discussion see now I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the guys have it 11:25 11225 excuse me handicap parking at 44 termont
Street DPW that police department and police department just the police department motion to send to the police department item 11225 thank you motion made is there a second second by Vice chair re discussion see n I'll call the question
all in favor say I oppos no the eyes have it Nexus 20 um sorry 22 linen Street councelors handicap parking motion to Police Department motion made to send the police department for their review second by Vice chair reyes's discussion
see none I call the question all in favor say I know the eyes have it uh okay we did 115 that was approved I was favorable uh with
conditions I think that's it counselor is there is there anything else uh on our agenda looking for a motion to adjourn motion to adjourn motion made by Council Santiago second by shair R discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppos no
the eyes have it thank you