Okay. That's what came up. So, Whatever she just send it back to committee. Yeah. Right. A leak file is something created by your rules. Under your rules, everything has to be in more than 48 hours ahead. It
has to be in on Thursday. Anything after that Thursday no meantime is a late file. Even if it's okay with the open meeting law, it's a late file. Then something different than that is it's not even on the agenda. It's an emergency. Like a late file will actually be on the agenda and say late file. And then we need seven votes for
it. Takes more votes when it's on the agenda than when it's not on as an emergency, which I just that's the rules. Like that's however you want to handle it. I'm absolutely okay with. But I think and the thing is is Well, no. We just cancelled ordinance.
Yeah, but agenda is already posted. So, like the notice to the public issue is nonsense. Already can already see it posted like it's already there. Yeah.
Yep. If you want to add file, it's okay. That seven is just extra. I can't imagine I can't imagine voting against it. At this point, yeah, I don't know what I'm sorry. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry.
Your favor. I I'll talk to her. Yes. Just woke me up. Are you looking? I know. I didn't call you back. No, it's okay. It's okay. I know. She just showed me. City clerk didn't even put what it was.
Favorable. She just said the same thing to me, too. Apple. Can I take this real quick? Sure. Only because I think she's here. Let me see if it's on the other ones. Let me check. I don't think it is. It was our first meeting. No. Yeah, that's understandable.
Yeah, that's right. Right at the end of the week. I'll go get it. I know. I know. I'm sorry. We We'll work on it. I promise. You got it next time. All right, I'm going to bring that up.
Let's go. Let's go. Eling. Okay, let's go. Thank you, Jen. [Laughter] Good evening and welcome to the U. This is right.
June 23rd. You have to say, right? Uh, welcome to the special meeting for the Lawrence City Council. Today's day is Monday, June 23rd, 2025. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the act of 2022, this meeting will be hybrid allowing participation both in person at
the city council chambers and remotely. We have a few people that are join join us remotely uh online. Um, anybody that request the Zoom link to be able to join uh online um um have done it through the city clerk's office.
Uh this meeting is also been transmitted live through the Lawrence City Council Facebook page as well as the Lawrence City Council YouTube page. Roll call. Madame Clerk, Council Levy present. Council Lanton is noted as absent. Council del Rosario
present. Council Santiago is noted as absent. Council Mamo present. Council Reyes is noted as absent. Council vice president present. Council President present. Okay. Uh please join me for a moment of silence.
Now join me for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
All right we have public participation. Uh the first person that we have is H Mali. The rules for public participation are following. Please refer to this council as a whole, not to any individual counselors. You're going to have two and a half minutes and at the
two-minute mark, you will hear a beep or sounds or an indication that you still have 30 seconds to speak. Um, name and address for the record, sir. 53 Chester Street. Good evening, honorable members. We the citizen mourn passing away the
officer Tom Ki the wonderful police officers wonderful human being. As we mourn we express the highest degree of sympathy and condolences to honorable chief Morris Agar and all Lawrence police officers. Lawrence police with
the impeccable leadership by honorable chief Morris Agar doing excellent job to protect our citizen. Lawrence police, thank you for making Lawrence a safe city. Oh, as a citizen of the 40 years,
never witnessed DPW and leadership do such a awesome work. Thank you for making Lawrence a beautiful city. Lawrence inspection department employees. Thank you for excellent job. We support your union. We must hire more
inspector. Lawrence public school with the impeccable leadership by honorable superintendent Ralph Guerrero moving forward. We support Lawrence teachers union. Thank you for excellent job. We demand the best compensation for our
cafeteria for Lawrence always strong. Lawrence always unite. We support our veterans. Thank you for your sacrifice. Thank you for your services. We must hire two vacant position in our veteran department. We must create the best
commission on elder for our city. We demand equal pay for all the city hall city employees than the employees that we hire as a new employees. Lawrence one city under God. We pray for the safety of police officers and the first
responder. Lawrence police officers. Thank you for excellent job. We are proud to support your union. The next person that we have is uh Rich Russell. Councelor Russell. Good evening, councils. Rich Russell, 34
Cross Street. Uh it's unfortunate that the events of last week have turned the council schedule into a nightmare. I want to discuss several items on the budget committee's concern. and they are agenda items 241, 234, 235, and 243.
Before I get into agenda item 24125, I in all honesty must let you know that I am a board member of LCAT, although I am not here as its official spokesman. I am speaking as an advocate for voters and residents who have either Verizon or
Comcastfinity as their cable carrier. The chairwoman of the budget committee and the council president have copies of information I received as public record via a public record request from the city. From uh August 13th of last year through June
21st of this year, city of Lawrence received 12 payments from the two cable carriers totaling 431,000 plus dollars, which represents the city's PEG fee rate of 4%. The PEG fee, if I'm not mistaken, represents payments
that towards the support of the three public cable channels. I have no issue with money being used towards the educational channel. I am not overjoyed with the city's unilateral decision to terminates LCAT's ability to transmit
uh on the government aka aka council channel. My uh my questions are where does the money for the public ass access channel go and where do the public go if
they wish to avail themselves of the public access channel. If I for example example want to make a pro put on a program on how to make paper mache models of city hall to use city council agendas. Where would I go to do that
program? Next agenda items uh 235, 243, and 234 involve the transfer of funds from various sources to various accounts with no background information as to where
the money is coming from or going to. What reasons lead these deductions to be made? Why aren't the public privy to this financial data? Why were some accounts knowingly allowed to overspend and how
transfer of funds out of other accounts affect their ability to function? I thank you for the time to bring these issues to your attention whether you wanted them brought to your attention or not. Thank you. All right. Uh the next person that we have the next person that we have is uh
loose Diaz. Name and address for the record, please. My name is Lucia, 73 Newberry Street. Dear honorable members, I'm here to address a current transportation problem within a Lawrence Academy, a high school for high achieving students under LPS
that will soon be expanding its yearly classes and will also be adding a seventh and eighth grade. A few days ago, I stood up here to address my issue. Yet, our community has not heard any updates from LPS nor the superintendent. There's a lack of transparency.
According to the superintendent, transportation was cut by 4 million, a number that was nowhere in the council's books. The total transportation budget is still inconsistent with three different numbers reported. That is 13 million,
11.3 million, and 11.7 million. That solution is not to simply tell the superintendent to figure it out. We need a plan. We need action. Just because it is not required by the state to provide transportation doesn't mean it is
morally correct for the future 11 years old to walk 40 minutes to school in the freezing winter, nor for my classmates to stand inside a public bus with the risk of facing harassment. The Lawrence public schools budget comes from the city. I beg you all to please
consider the safety of our ALA students and add to the supplemental budget. All of you as the Lawrence City Council have the power to help us arrive home safely and punctually. Thank you for sharing. All right. Uh
the next person is uh Asusa Flores. Name and address for the record, please. Ausa Flores and 19 Montro Roads Avenue. Good evening. I am a rising senior at Abbott Lawrence Academy. I'm sure by now you've gotten many complaints about
transportation. I am one of those many South students that ALA has. I walk to school regularly, which is a 35minute walk. But not only do I walk to school, but I walk home from school as well. That's already an hour and 10 minutes of my day that I spend walking to or from
school. Since I also work on campus, that's another hour and 10 minutes of my day just getting home, putting down my school bags, and getting stuff for work. On the new campus that was given to ALA, that average time will be doubled. Instead of a 35 minute walk, it will be
60 minutes flat if I walk fast enough. This is 4 hours or 16th of my entire day. That is also more than half of a school day. No one has that type of time to spend four hours total every day walking to school and back. As a young woman, during my 35 minute walk, I get
cat called at least three times. Imagine how much worse it would be during an hour walk to North Lawrence. I need you to put yourselves in our parents' shoes. Would you put your daughter through the risk of being catc calledled and or potentially kidnapped while she's walking to school? Public transportation
also isn't the solution since there is a big chance that I won't even make it to school on time or to school, period. Public transportation is not reliable whatsoever. It's also very unsafe for our minors, especially our seventh and eighth graders joining us, to be riding
uh the same buses with adults. There have been countless encounters where older men will lustfully stare at minors. Sure, some students can drive to school, but there's also no parking whatsoever in our new building, so that option is eliminated. So, please hear us
and fix a transportation issue. Fund our schools to give school buses to ALA in order for us to receive the education that we deserve. Thank you. Uh the next person that we have is Christopher Bayas. Name and address for the record, please.
Christopher Bayz, 25 South Street. Good evening, Lawrence Council members. I am here to also address the transportation issue regarding the new building provided to Aban Lawrence Academy. However, I would like to focus on the idea of driving ourselves to and from school. The parking situation was the
first thing the teachers at Abbott Lawrence Academy wanted to know about once the news broke out about our new building. I even recall my English teacher saying, "Where am I going to park?" Other teachers when talking about the move asked the same exact question with no reply from the other side.
students as well were wondering the same thing as some of us have our licenses and can provide ourselves a proper transportation method as long as there is proper parking. However, both teachers and students do not have a reliable parking option. There is a very small parking spot that surely won't be
able to fit cars for over 500 teachers. In comparison, the Lawrence High School building has two large parking lots right next to the building and an even larger parking lot in the plaza that is 5 minutes away from the building by foot. With so many options for parking, there
is a guaranteed spot for any student or teacher with a license to reliably park and go to school. A plausible solution I'll propose is for teachers to be exempted from paying the parking meters near the school as they would need to spend almost $1,500 per school year they
work. This is the case for city workers. So, I feel it's reasonable to do the same thing for them. Thank you all for listening. Thank you. The next person, hold it for them, please. Uh the next person that we have is Ashanti Vargas. Aanti Vargas 3 Chandler Street.
Good evening city council members. I'm speaking today on behalf of being a rising senior at Abance Academy and I'm addressing the issue that we have regarding transportation. As you may know, Abren Academy has been relocated from Lawrence High School to the North Common. But with this change, we also
are our students from the south are facing the issue that they do not have transportation to get to school and that is unacceptable. Every child deserves to go to school. Education is and will always be essential. The suggested solution of
using public transportation MIVA for students in the south is irresponsible. These buses are often overcrowded and they are completely unsafe for our students as they show a potential issue with sexual harassment and to rise
concerns about safety in our city. Their schedules are also unpredictable and so is traffic especially during the school year. For upper classmen like me who are in dual enrollment classes, we have to be early at school. And if we use public
transportation, we have the risk of being late and that disrupts our classes and it jeopardizes our college education leading to a stress, frustration, and to poor academic achievement. However, the students are not the only ones being
impacted, but also our teachers. Over 500 of them do not have guaranteed parking. The solution has been to use street parking, but it has been said to them to go to the street and park there with a 75 monthly
fee. And requiring them to run out to feed the meter during school classes is completely outrageous. We are frustrated. Our teachers are frustrated. The students are frustrated and so are
the parents. We need a solution. I know you have the power. I know you have the budget. And I know if you want it, you would. We need you to do what is right. We need you to provide safe and reliable transportation
for our students and equitable and accessible parking for our teachers. Thank you for your time and I hope you finding solutions soon. Thank you. The next person, hold it for the end, please. The next person that we have is
Merisla. Miss Dla, right? All right. Uh, this Okay. All right. We're going to submit all these names for the record. All right. Uh, now we have
item 16425. Mayor Brian A. Pñena recommended budget fiscal year 2026. It was sent out to us by Ramona Caravayo, the acting cafo uh for the uh for the city of Lance and the mayor uh Brian Eden. We have an update
uh from the city attorney uh and the cafo when it comes to the budgets. So, city attorney Tim Hton. Good evening, councilors. Tim Hooton, city attorney. Um, some interesting developments since your meetings, the
budget meetings the other night. U, I'm going to give you a brief history of what's happened and where we are today. So, after your budget meeting on Wednesday, you continued it to on Monday, you continued to Wednesday.
At that point, it was discovered that your budget was filed on May 2nd. Um, under state law, you have to act on that budget within 45 days. The 45th day would have been the Monday
of your budget hearing. On that day, pursuant to law, you would have to either vote positive for the budget, negative for the budget, and neither happened. how the budget withdrawn what would happen under those
circumstances and don't come to any conclusions right now I'm just going to give you all aspects is at that point the budget would be deemed to be passed because no action was taken by city council so no cuts no nothing the budget
is passed in full the question then came about is on that first night the mayor presented a amendment to his budget As you may remember, you received a memo on the second day of the meeting which
contained uh in writing which of those uh amendments he had wished. The question then became on the first night when presenting the amended budget, did that change the time period? In other
words, we are now not working with the budget that was filed on May 2nd. We are working with the amended budget which is then filed on the first night of your meetings. U that the answer to that question is unresolved. What's happened since that
point as city attorney is that I have contacted and in addition to many other members of the city with the capo the city clerk etc the state to discuss that position and find out what this the state's position is. Uh unfortunately we
got a couple of differing positions in the beginning but today we met with various members of the city council. We met with members of the mayor's staff uh and we had the u the state on the line.
Their end response, which is not sufficient and not helpful to me, is that they can find no definitive case to say one way or the other to say whether in fact the budget is adopted because
the 45 days has run or B that because of the filing of the amended uh budget that that triggers a longer time period. The end result that they have discussed is unfortunately they said this decision
on whether one or the other must be made by the city attorney. So they put me in the place of the middle to make a decision. I am not a judge. I am an advocate. I'm an advocate for the city. I don't like being in a position of being a judge.
So that's where we stand. I am no position to make that determination right now. I need to do research and determine what's going to happen. In that vein, I spoke with the state and spoke with all parties concerned.
The state does not care how you resolve your budget issue. If you come to a compromise, if you and the mayor agree on a budget, they are not going to look any further. What does that mean? That means that if the your proposals and the
mayor proposals coincide and you agree that's going to be the budget, then I do not have to decide whether the mayor's budget comes through without any cuts or whether you allowed to cut further. So in that realm, the mayor made a proposal
which is going to being presented to the city council tonight uh regarding his budget. In that he has adopted as you may remember the first page of the um the memo that was sent around. He
agrees that he would transfer those monies from administration of deputy chief to training of personal service uh from the fire chief. Um the third one is the emergency management. It is my
belief and I do can be corrected that that item was later amended by this board to provide for $75,000 to be used for uh creating a getting a consultant to use to determine the need for this
position or the need for uh to do not for the need for the position but to determine programs uh what the city needs to do kind of a blueprint uh for protecting in a city in an emergency situation. There were also three cuts that were
proposed. There was a cut of $30,000 to the advertising budget. There was the cut of the $30,000 from the emergency management position. Now, all of those are agreed to by the mayor.
The mayor is presenting them. And again, just so you know that how my day has gone, I have been accused by the mayor's office of being a pawn of the city council. I've been accused by the city council of being a pawn of the mayor. So, I think I'm doing my job pretty well
right now because both parties don't trust me. So, I'm not advocating any position. I'm not coming here to advocate position. I'm here to elicit to give you facts. What the mayor is not agreeing to in his compromise budget is
the $99,000 cut from his office. That is the one that he is objecting to. Besides that, he is presenting that, not me. The mayor is presenting that to you tonight as a compromised budget. If you vote in favor of this, and again, I'm not
telling you, then there is no need to go further from my research. I do not have to look any further to determine whether in fact the 45 days have run and there is a budget with no cuts or whether in fact the this process needs to continue.
So I present that to you. I'm here to answer questions. Uh okay. We have a technicality issue and um essentially the mayor have agreed on a budget that transfer the $150,000 from
the firefighter department uh to the cell line item which is personal 511. uh change their $175,000 from the police department to the training which is a um uh professional
prof 10 or something on the firefighting no the police police is going from personnel which is a 5100 to um other um other purchase services which is 5300 training so from the police is going uh
from uh personnel to other purchase services which is for training. The mayor have agreed upon u upon the $30,000 emergency management uh cut that was proposed and approved by the council and also the advertisement 30
advertisement $30,000 from his office. The mayor have not agreed to the one the 99,999 cut from his personal uh uh from his personal uh line item which is 51000
and uh if the council vote yes uh the budget will pass with u everything that was presented. What was presented on the budget? The amount of the budget that was presented was
for the amount of 400. Can I get the right amount? 425 million. I don't have they are saying page 10. I don't have a bunch of for the amount of
for the amount of um 469,611,865,000 uh minus the cut which is $60,000. Um and um if the council vote yes uh that will be
the the proposed the budget that is going to be approved. If the council vote no, the uh the city attorney going to have to rule on whether the amendment that was proposed by the c was proposed by the mayor's office to the budget will
be considered as a uh fiscal year 2026 u new budget and allow the council to uh continue with the discussion. So um I going to open the floor for discussion for the council if if there
is any it will be a motion. We need a motion. There is a motion on the table to allow the conversation to continue. There's a motion by council plan to um for the uh to discussion
to get this thing started. I'm making a motion to to to use the compromise mayor's compromise language to begin the discussion. Okay, there is a motion on the table. Can I hear a second? Properly second. Now discussion councilors any discussion on
the on the position that was presented councel you second it councelor mamu councelor huh uh not yet but I just want to clarify
who second the first council levy councel levy have second the motion for the purpose of discussion counselors any discussion councelor mammo um attorney attorney, how long would it take you to come up with a determination as to
because from my understanding uh budget has to be approved before the 30th of June. Oh, it would be within a couple of days just 48 hours. Um could I just say one other thing and it just uh I noticed and this is just
because I was not feeling well the other night. I just noticed that um council model presses her microphone the other night. I heard her clear as a bell. I heard no one else. So I don't know if you have to press your microphones, but council model when I was watching on
Zoom was clear as a bell. Everybody else I couldn't hear. So the Zoom people just want to say I don't know if you have to press your buttons or whether they're always on but whatever she's Can everybody hear us on Zoom? Uh, all right. Let's continue with the
conversation. Uh, Council Lam, we have the floor. Council Rosario. Thank you. to you uh attorney Huden. Uh after we vote regardless in favor against it, you go and deliver it yourself and and if we
vote against it and then will you submit your decision to the state of you vote, do you have to come back here to us or you just submit your decision and then from there we go? Let's assume that I vote that in fact the um
the amendment successfully told the dates. Well, you still got to do your work. You still have to you would have to still finish your budget at that point. So, I would have to give you notice because you have to keep going on your budget because you haven't finished
it at this point. If we're assuming everything regular time, if it were if I voted the other way, I wouldn't have to give you anything. the budget will be over. All right. Any other questions? All right. U if there is no other
questions, I will uh I'll clarify the vote. If you're voting yes, you proving that compromised budget. I mean, you you approving the compromised budget. If you vote no, you're going to allow the city attorney to make a ruling on the
situation. So, are we clear with a yes what it means and no what it means? Huh? Okay. Madame Clair, please call the role. Council Reyes is noted as absent.
Council Mamo, no. Council Santiago, no. Council Del Rosario, yes. Council Luzon, no. Council plant, yes. Council Levy, yes. Council Infante,
no. Council President, I vote no. What's the count? I have um three yeses. So, we do not have five. Three yes and five yes. Uh three yes and five no. Um so, city miss uh Hon, you have uh the
opportunity to rule in favor or against either one of the two. Thank you. options. Good luck. Thank you, Attorney. All right, let's continue with the agenda. We have an interesting agenda today.
Any questions? Sure. So, how many days the attorney have to to rule over? He say 48 hours. 48 hours. Yeah, that's what he says there. Thank you, counselors. We have an interesting agenda today. And the agenda that we have today is for the u for the June
23rd. Also, we have an agenda that was uh posted with the committee reports and also posted with the um committee reports from pre from the previous
meeting that we cancelled due to unforeseen situation last week. Uh and on those committee reports, we are going to entertain those those committee reports. um from the different committee chairs
so we can make a determination on those. Uh am I right Monler? Yes. All right. And then we are going to start with the um with the ordinance committee. We have a lot of people from the ordinance
committee today and then uh we are going to entertain ordinance committee first. Uh Mr. Chair councelor plan from the ordinance committee. [Music] Take the other mic. Document number 12925. The ordinance
committee sent this document up with a favorable recommendation. This is for one year anniversary celebration on July 13, 2025 from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. in the camp common. This is and there's an important note. It's not in the staging area, but on the Jackson Street side near the food trucks. Up to the full
council of favor recommendation to make that formal motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly second. Discussion on the matter. Uh yes I do have you have a question councelor yes I do all right councelor son um do we have
the man just name and address for the record uh 297 road name so and and I'm getting um complaints from from my constituents uh
are the truck supposed to be in one area the entire day I mean the the time that they like instead of moving from one is anyone from that question should not be for you it should be for inspection on service
is anyone from inspection of service here cons I don't know so the question is around the transient the transient license that they have yeah because I mean it well um it happened to be that they a
carrier of a transient vendor because they have it a truck but um and the way that the transient vendor license work if I remember correctly when I serve on the ordinance committee is that every truck if as far as they don't have clients they need to move from one place
to another place it's not based on timing it's based on clients if they don't have a client for a specific amount of time and then they need to move to another location um to see if they can find any clients in this case This this is an an special event that
they're going to have which is a uh a one year uh one year anniversary celebration uh for June from June 13 and it's a a Sunday council president. Yes, that's correct on a Sunday. Well, we also have to keep in mind that we have
churches around the companion park and they have services around that time. Mhm. So I I mean traffic I mean parking is an issue for this uh group of uh uh people. Yeah. They're going to be
they're going to be inside the park inside not outside. No, they're going to be on the staging area of the of the park. I thought it was going to be the bicycle. Yeah, it's the bicycle. It's okay. But uh yeah, they're in the center outside. Okay, good. Uh and just for the record, they're going
to be serving the food for the and I don't know uh council president to you I I enjoy uh especially their food truck. It has a very good uh menu but also I'm getting complaints from my constituents about the amount of food trucks are
parking around the companion park. Uh they are not moving. they actually take a place and they don't allow any other food trucks to park and maybe it's time for the city to start thinking about a
food truck enforcement. Uh I don't have nothing against uh this. I think it's a great idea. I a one day uh permit that we No, I know. I'm just for the record. She's talking in general about what's happening around the park. Uh the food
trucks are not moving. Uh my other concern was the church. Uh they have services on Sunday but uh according to your event it's going to be inside the park. Uh parking still is going to be an issue uh regardless. But uh what I'm
saying is that for the future the city should be start uh thinking about a permanent food truck park uh because this is getting seriously it's getting out of control especially at night. So great event. I think this
this may be the first step to a full truck park in the future because um people in the area are not they enjoy the food but they want to see it in another area because none of the trucks
are moving. Once they get there they stay there all night. And yes it's convenient for me and for the people but not for everybody. I'm going to support this but I just wanted to say that to mention that council president for the record. No
problem. Understand. It's important to recognize that um this food truck operates during the day. It's the only food truck that I believe it operate during the day. So the the issue is mostly at night that we have a lot of trucks around the and I agree with you
100%. I actually asked myself some question that I have shared with other people. I don't want to share in public when it comes to hygiene and stuff like that, but I mean this food truck is is is is parked during the day around the companion park. You're right. And they
need to move after the law if they don't have any clients for an a specific amount of time and they understand very well the the ordinance. So, but thank you because definitely it's a good step to uh potentially have a and chalk park
or food truck park in the city of Lance. Any other questions? Counselors. Huh? I have a comment. Um, councelor BL. Thanks. Through you. I think we talked about this in the ordinance. Can we just be mindful that we are doing the best that we can and try to maintain the
grass and on the common throughout the common the grass and so obviously keep the trucks on the pavement and that would be much better for the city properly. Thank you. I'll make sure. Um, any councelor Vice President Fante? Thank
just in case. Thank you. I just want to say congratulations on your oney year anniversary. That's the only comment I have. You're welcome. Council councelor U Levy.
All right. Um congratulations from the celebration for the first year. But also regarding the food right now with the all the repair that we are having on HR street near the school, it's very hard sometime to traffic from
any any side because the traffic is very heavy and the today I spend almost an hour just right in there just to go by and that's is something that we has to start looking at. Yeah, definitely. I mean any business around there uh it's
it's facing the traffic even though they don't park there. They park on Jackson Street during the day. Uh but there there I mean that that food truck is like it's like very good looking truck. That's all I can say. Uh
uh councilors any other comments question? Council de Rosari, I'm glad my colleagues are actually looking at this because a few years ago I put in a resolution and was rejected because we cutting jobs or we cutting people to try to get the way to find the food by doing
business and and it's still sitting there. So if you want to reconsider it's still sitting there. Um there's a lot of trucks out there that illegally they have no permits. I'm not talking about this truck which this this truck right now is totally different to what we're discussing right now. There's illegal
trucks out there. They uh permits are expires. Impressional service have according to them they they go once in a while. But there's a lot of trucks that would with would with would permits their expires. Truck that doesn't pass inspection. Trucks with
inspection stick expires and nobody's doing anything. But I brought that up a few years ago and nobody pay attention to it. So it's sitting in the agenda if you guys want to revise. Thank you. Thank you. This is Handicap Parking on 111 Arlington Street. to full counsel with
favorable recommendation. Make that in the form of a motion. Second. There's a motion to order a public hearing on item 14725. Properly second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item 14825.
Councelor La. Handicap parking at 65 Tbury Street. We send it up to full council with favorable recommendation. Order a public hearing. That's the motion. The mot the motion is to order a public hearing. Second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I the eyes have
it. Item 149 14925 Handicap Park and 124 Oxford Street send to the full council of favor recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. Second. The motion is to order a public hearing for item 14925.
Uh been second by councelor Levy. Discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 15125. 50minute parking 101 Bradford Street was sent up to the full council to order a public hearing. That's the form of a motion. The mot the
motion is to order a public hearing for item 15125 properly second by councelor Levy. Discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item 15225. This is school bus drop off
and pick up at 65 Jackson Street was sent up to the full council with table recommendation of a public hearing. That's the motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly second by council levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The
eyes have it. Item 18625. Handicap parking 114 summer street was sent up to the full council with favorable recommendation order public hearing. That's the motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say
I. I. The eyes have any names. The eyes have it. Item 18725. 187 is Handicap Park near 31 Sergeant Street was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation. That's the motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly second by councelor
Santiago. Discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? Sorry. The eyes have it. Item 18825. This is the handicap parking at 23 Summit. up to the full council to table recommendation. That's the motion. Second. Motion is to order a public
hearing for item 18825. Properly second by Cass Levit. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item 1892. Handicap parking 45 Ben Street to the full council with payable recommendation. That's the motion.
Second. Motion is to order a public hearing from item for item 12 18925 properly second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nice? I have it. Item 19025. This is handicap parking at 196 Bruce
Street was sent up to the full council of table recommendations. That's the motion. Second. The item is to order a public hearing for item 1902. Properly second by councelor Ley. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item
19125. Handicap parking 25 Woodman Street. Send it up to the full council with a favorable recommendation of send to order public hearing. That's the motion. Second. Motion for item 12925 is to order a public hearing properly
second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in fo please say I. I. Any nays? Come on counselor. I I Any the eyes have it? Item 13125 this morning of a parcel of land on
Madison Street mapped 177 lot 5 from an I1 industrial park to an R1 single family residential was sent up to the full council with the favor recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. Second. All right. There is an item for an item to
this is to order a public hearing to order a public say here. This is the order of public hearing for item 23125. Uh it's been properly second by council levy. Discussion I hear none. All those in favor please
say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item uh 24525. This is to adopt a new firm flood plane map for the city and approve the amendment of the city's flood plane management ordinance 1532 with the latest regulations from the National
Flood Insurance Program. My notes are telling me that this is a motion. It's favorable. I don't see a public hearing. So, yeah, this is to order a public hearing. So, I'll make a motion that we order a public hearing. That's the motion. The motion is to order a public hearing for item 24525 properly second
by councelor Levy. discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item 220 25525 plan. This is raining in the valley. Uh camping comment August 15 to 16 from
6:00 to 9:00 p.m. We send up to full council with a fable recommendation. That's the motion. Second. Comment. Uh there is a a motion to approve item 25525 properly second by councelor Levy discussion.
I've got no discussions but I think the applicants want to say something so as a courtesy to them. They've been here twice now in two weeks. So um I would like to hear what they have to say. If you can keep it brief that'd be great. Go ahead. Council President, it's actually even more important that we hear the young lady
speak. It will be as equal as important to hear them both. Okay. But I can't hear the young lady. No, I get it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was I was kind of touching this so it could be both speaking to the mic. Okay.
This is speak to the mic to the mic. You're doing good for the pastors for the the 15 and 16 of August. Thank you. Um he's here waiting for for it to
possibly get approved and he's waiting for you guys to Okay, any questions? All right, there is no question from the council. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any names? The eyes have it. Thank you. That's your daughter.
Thank you. Thank you for the translation. She did great. Uh it uh it is 25626 25 256 annual bread and roses festival
and camping common September 1st for 5 p.m. set up to the full council with the favorable recommendation to make that in the form of a motion. Second. There is a motion on the table properly second by councelor Levy. All discussion is none. I hear none. All those in favor
please say I. The eyes have it. Item 25725. Uh the this item is a family gathering at Okonnell Park on July 19th, 2025 from 9:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. to the full council with a favorable recommendation. And I make
that in the form of a motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly. Second by councelor Levy. Discussion discussion counselor. I you know I normally don't comment on on on things like this but every now and then we have applicants that go above and beyond. Uh
they show us that applicants can actually get the job done, fill out the form, get all the proper paperwork, get everything done in a timely manner. It can be done. And I just want to applaud the applicants for this particular item because they just did everything. There
was there was nothing missing and it made our job super easy. And I really wish I wanted to I wanted to hold them out as the standard that all applicants should should aspire to because that makes all of our jobs a lot easier rather than me having to state of the court. Did they send that thing in? And then she Yes. Yes. Like last week or
something. You know, we get it all the right time. So, thank you very much and I appreciate that. Can I add to that Mr. President Rosario? And then to add to that, they also went above and beyond looking for extra permit for parking for the people they're going to the event.
They went to the New Balance to ask for permission to allow the people that they invite to park at the New Balance. So they don't, you know, they don't they alleviate the parking issue. So I I I also want to applaud that. They went above and beyond of what they needed to
do. Yeah. Council, any other questions? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 258 uh 25. Uh this is Dia Declardos at Camping
Common on August 30th from 11 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. was sent up to the full council. Wait for it as I look for it. Good evening. With a favorable recommendation. They make that in the form of motion. There's a motion on the table properly
second by councelor Levy. Discussion. These ladies I've been here twice now in two weeks. So as a courtesy we should listen a little bit to what they have to say. Hi good evening. God bless you. My name is Maraldonado. Um I am here this is a four year um for
celebrity um has a home in the hand of Jesus. I think we approve it. This is the meaning of the services this day in August 30th uh 11 to 6. I want to be there and catch
the prayers and petitions for the citizens and I pray for them. This is my meeting. Okay. All right. Thank you. Oh, sorry. Counselors. Uh,
any questions? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Nice. Have it. Item 26025. Councelor Councelor Llan. Yeah. Thanks. Uh this is a disclosure of a conflict by city employee. Thank you Jelly Bono
full council with a favorable recommendation. That's the motion. There's the motion on the table for item 26025 properly second by councelor Levy. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 26125.
Council plan. Lawrence cycling club event is taking place on the camping noon common on July 13, 2025 from 7 a.m. to 2 pm send up to the full council with a fable recommendation. That's the motion. There's a motion on the table before we continue with the motion properly second
by councelor councelor Levy before uh we continue with the vote. Uh attorney Houston I have a question. Attorney Hton I'm a member of this team of the uh cycling team. So if I vote in favor of
this or boy but against it that might represent a conf a potential conflict of interest. Do you have a financial interest in it? No. I mean I'm not making money out of it. I'm a member.
And just not bring up the other night a counselor didn't vote on something because her son in the basketball league. That is also not I just want to make sure like if this is accomplished I want to make sure like again because I want to make that disclaimer. Nope. All
right. I have the question of the of the sample that he brought up. Next time when they when they are coming I I I am allowed to vote. You are allowed. Okay. All right. Um counselors any questions?
Any questions? Um, so yeah, um, we're going to be part of of an event with soil food truck law team and, um, we're going to be spending the same time respectfully. We're going
to keep the area clean and um, you know, we hope to have a a reunion of the group. Any questions for that? uh for the cycling team event. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any names?
The eyes have it. Thank you so much. Thank you. Uh now we have um budget and finance committee. Yep. Thank you through you, Council President. Item 201125.
Item 2011-25, authorization to expend $44,000 for the sustainable materials recovery program from Mass D was actually tabled at the committee level. We weren't
ready. Um, no. Yeah. No, you're you're correct. Oh, the Oh, there was I'm sorry. I'm confusing. Sorry. Sorry. We had two. No, my fault. This was not tabled. This was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation and I make that as a
formal. Mr. President, councel from this vote, please. No problem. It's council plan has requested himself from this vote. There's a motion on the table to approve properly. Second by councelor de Rosario. Discussion. We have the directive recycling uh coordinator here
with us online. Uh counselors if there is any question to the coordinator he's here with us. Any questions? Uh councelor um coordinator uh Silva do you have any comments uh to your item? Good
evening counselors. Uh I apologize for not being there personally. I am out today on a sick day. Um but I would have been there personally tonight. Um, as you see, this is a um
grant that we are lucky to have every single year uh with Mass E. Uh, so I would re I would request your your vote uh and your um support on this item tonight.
And also uh not only on this, but I did I did send you a uh email to all counselors as of last week with your request um in regards to the
um report that you had requested. Um I'm not sure if uh I'm sure you all of it all of you received it. Um, but at this point I have not received any correspondence from anyone on the council. I just wanted to let you know
that your request was um was uh you know taken care of. Um so hopefully if you have any questions in the future uh as you know my door is always open and um we can discuss
anything um in the near future. But as of right now, if um this item, if you could just um basically approve it and then we can move forward
to to expend these funds, which that's it. Um U Mr. Do you mind going over how you going to spend the the the funds? So So the funds are are are I mean the 44,000 really goes quick. I mean these these funds are
um spent through our household hazardous waste Saturdays that we run from May to October. Um they are for um when residents come in and they can drop off um televisions, tires, uh
paint, um electronic equipment, uh motor oil, um etc. The these these items are very expensive uh when it comes to the
disposal of these. Um so the these funds they they they go very quick and it could be you know within you know a matter of you know 3 to 6 months um and you know it's a um
program that we provide to the citizens of the city uh for a very minimal charge. Uh but at the end of the day we really don't make any money off of this. um you know we uh it's actually a loss to the city and in
the future we we are looking at different options uh but as of right now we we are okay with with with with what we have and we are going to go uh you know forward with um with this and then
hopefully by next year we can we can up the the amount uh by the um the dividends this program with with the state and we can we can better what we have now. That is my um that is my my
goal. So essentially how much that uh the city need to invest to be able to dispose everything that you're going to dispose under this $44,000 uh because you mentioned that it was a loss to the city. Honestly, council
president, I mean, you know, just just in dry paint alone, I it's it's very expensive. It's about a $5,000 um charge for a uh let's just say about two pallets of dry paint is about
$5,000. It is very very expensive. Um, and you know, we we need to in the future, um, you know, we we we really don't charge for dry paint and whatnot. Uh, our prices are very low uh compared to
other municipalities across the state and we um are possibly looking at a possible increase um compared to other cities and towns. But then again, you know, if we increase our prices, you
know, Lawrence being a a city where uh you know, we have a lot of issues here and if we can if we raise our prices, we are at risk of having more illegal dumping. And I'd
rather I'd rather take a television for $10 compared to if Capital Waste picked it up for $40. I'd rather take the $10 and seeing that that you know television being dumped on a corner somewhere uh in our city. So, you know, we we we try to
do as best as we can um especially for, you know, certain residents. Um, and you know, there's a lot of times where we also wave fees for certain residents who who can't afford to um, you know, dump these these items. So, I mean, I I I try
to do my best. Uh, as you know, I've been I've been in this seat for uh about a year and as of right now, I think, you know, this department is is going forward. Uh it's looking better than ever and um you know we we we are trying
our best. Uh we're trying to to make things uh make things work um knowing what the the financial status of our residents but then again we also in the future we need to really look at um you know we're we're taking a loss. So, at
the end of the day, uh I'd rather take a little bit of a loss um and make a profit than taking everything and basically uh have our our streets look,
you know, uh atrocious. Counselors, any questions? No. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? You guys have it,
Madame Vice President Fonte. Item 23325. Thank you. Item 220 233-25, review and approval of annual application to the HUD for a community development block grant, the C the CDBG
in the amount of 1,638,713. And for the home grant in the amount of $835,89417 was sent up uh to the full council to order a public hearing and I make that as a formal motion. There's a mo there's a motion to order a public hearing uh
second by councel Rosario. Any questions? I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any names? The eyes have it. Uh item um 23525. Madame vice president
234 oh sorry 23425 item 234-25 the transfer in the amount of 49 492700 770 with 34 cents from cre from free cash
account to new account designated for police department capital improvements was sent up with a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion motion to table. There's a motion to table being second. No discussion on the table matter. All
those in favor, please say I. No discussion on the table matters. All those in favor, please say I. Any names? No. The uh Madame Cler, please call the role. I'm confused. There's a motion to table.
Council Levy, it's a motion to table. No. Council La Plant. No. Council Luzon. Can you repeat? Huh? Motion to tablet. The motion is to table item uh 23425. If
you if you vote yes to table is for the item to be tableed. If you vote no to table, the motion is uh not to table. Continue the discussion. And I cannot ask no question. Not on the not on the table matters
unfortunately. So council Levy, council, council, we're at you. I'm here. Yes. Council del Rosario. No. Council Santiago. Yes. Council Marmal. Yes.
Council Reyes is noted as absent. Council vice president. Yes. And council president. I vote. Yes. What's the count? One, two, three, four, five to table. So it's table motion has been passed. This table item 23525
item. Madam vice president. Item 235-25 year end transfers between the the parts of mental accounts was sent up to the full council as a favor recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Motion to table. There is a hold on. There's wait there is a motion uh on the
motion to you should make the underline motion. Yeah, it's it's going to be an underline motion but motion has been to approve. Can I hear a second on the approval on the motion to approve? Second by councelor de Rosario and I'll recognize the motion to table by councelor Marmo. Can I hear a second on
the motion to table? Properly second. Uh all those in favor on the table matters. I I and mankair please call the role. Councelor Reyes is noted as absent. Councelor Marl, yes. Council Santiago, yes.
Council Del Rosario, no. Councelor um Luzon, yes. Council Plant, Motion to Table, no. Councelor Levy, no. Councelor Vice President, yes. Council President
V. Yes. What's the count? Five yeses. Three motion. And the item has been table. Point of parliamentary. Mr. Council President. Yes. Would you please advise me as to who seconded the motion for document number 23425?
23425. I believe second councelor Santiago. Council Santiago seconded the motion to table. The underlying motion made by council was not councelor. So the underlying motion was not table council. No no give
me give me one second. Excuse me. Counselors counselor Santiago did you second both or just one? I did both. Okay. Councelor Santiago have has say that she actually uh second both of the motions.
So there is the underlying motion is motion to approve. There was a motion to table properly second by councelor Santiago both both times uh to table. So let's proceed. That is in order. Um item
23625 madame vice president. Item 236-25, the three the reauthorization of Belleview Cemetery revolving fund account expenditure limits of $95,000 was sent up with a favorable recommendation and I
make that as a formal second discussion. Motion to table. Uh there is a motion uh on the table properly second by council la. Discussion council la. I'm I'm a bit of a loss here counselors. I I we we're we are having items over here. We're at
the end of the fiscal year. We're making motions to table, which is I I don't know why we're making motion table. Each counselor has their own reason for voting the way that it votes, but I don't it's not apparent to me. Um I don't know if this is I I don't know why. I think as a courtesy to be open
and transparent, which is what the council president continues to talk about, we should have a fundamental understanding as to why we're delaying the votes on these things as we're approaching the end of the fiscal year. Right now, I don't think it's fair for this counselor to not know why we're doing these things because we can't
discuss it, which is why I was quick to jump on that second because I wanted to know why we're doing this. Well, Council Lang, your question is around tableabling the matter. No, I can't I can't Well, I'm asking a question as to we we're starting a pattern here. I've noticed it. It doesn't take a It's not
difficult to see that we're making a motion and it's quickly being tabled and it's being tabled by the same individual and seconded by this probably the same a different individual but multiple times. So reason and I'd like to know if I respond and then I'll be able to have a discussion
um what do you want me to ask? I would like to tableing it. I would like to know why we're looking to delay the vote. Well, if it is a table matters, madame clerk, is are we allowed to discuss the table matters under
parliamentary procedures? You're allowed to discuss it. You are not allowed to make have a discussion on a motion to table. You are allowed to discuss a table the tableling of a matter under we've done what item under Robert's rules of order. on the
underlying motion you are allowed to talk about whether or not you want to table it when you actually make the motion to table that's when there's no discussion we have done that in the past also when I mean uh and I and I would disagree that if the council desired to
announce as why they tableabling it they are entired to do so but we cannot ask do you want to table and why you want to table that's not a question that is allowed under parliamentary procedure but if you want going to ask and
counelors want to respond. I I I'll ask the question. Councelor Llan would like to know why this this item are being table. So who have that answer? Council president councelor Luzon. I mean we haven't have
an answer for councelor or councelor la plant yet. Do we have an answer for councel plant? I I well the counselor has voted in favor so I'd be curious to know why she's voting. But I mean you cannot ask us of why. I can ask I certainly can ask if they want. I just cannot I just cannot when the motion's
been seconded to go ahead and can have a conversation there. But I have every right to ask a counselor before the motion is is the table why they're doing that before. It hasn't happened yet. Council President that I am asking council president but nobody's going to respond to you unless
they want to respond. If if we're let's let people speak. Thank you. And they are allowed to speak. Anybody want to answer? Council president councel Luzon and I understand um your frustration council plan but also if as a counselor
if I don't want to respond why it'sn't our right isn't my right not to give you an explanation. Uh that is my answer council president. All right. Any other counselors would like to ask would like to respond to councelor Plan's question. All right. Thank you. Uh we are on item
23625. A motion to approve. There's a motion to approve. Seconded by council. Seconded by councel de la plan. Uh any other discussion on this matter on item 23625.
We do not we we don't have a motion to table. Once we have a motion to table and then we won't be able to discuss. No not yet not on this item. Are you making a motion? Said motion to table. It wasn't properly second. Second. All right. There is a
motion to council levy. Wait a minute. Council Levy. Yes, we should call the CO just to let her know, you know, regarding the authorization of the of this form where it's going to go. All right. If you have we we still don't
have a motion to table yet. If you want to call the CEO now. Yes. I would like call the CO just to explain regarding that amount of money where it's going to go, what we going to do with that because this is the problem that we are we we are tableing. We don't know what is going to happen.
Good evening, counselors, acting cap Ramona Sabalos. Um, I would like to speak on behalf of item 235, year and trans. No, 236. 236. That's the item. We have the motion 23 235 has been table. We can't discuss on that.
Per state law, we need to do year end transfers otherwise we'll be Yeah, we are not allowed to speak on item 235 because it's been tabled. Item 236. Okay. What would you like to know? Council question.
Yes. The question is for us to right now to re authorize the boru cemeteries rewarding phone account. Where are we going to spend the money? Um that's a good question. I will need to work with them because that's the
money they use to um whenever they have um activities within the cemetery that is not covered by the general operating fund, they use the uh the revolving fund and that applies to all the revolving funds here. So if it's not going to be
approved, then we will have to figure out what they're going to do uh come next week. When? Next week. Next week. July 1. And do you know how this was spended or how much was spended? Did we spend the
$95,000? No, they did not spend $95,000. That's the maximum amount they're allowed to spend. Okay. And they stay within um they've only spent maybe I have the report here. As of the time I ran the report, they had spent $80,000.
So by the time that the report, they already spent $80,000 for FY25. The authorization is for FY2. Yes, I know. I understand. Yes. Okay. Would you be able to send that report to all of the council, please? Um I believe
it was in the in the package that was submitted to you um all the revenues and expenses for all the revolving account but I'll be more than happy to send it again. Yeah but maybe uh you have a more detail of what we had in here. Um I can send you all the detail you want. Okay.
Thank you. Yes. Yes please. Motion to table. I councelor Levy, no. Council plant, no. Council Luzon, absent for this vote. Council del Rosario also absent for this vote.
Council Santiago, yes. Council Amamo, yes. Council Reyes is noted as absent. Council vice president. Yes. Council president. Yes. The count is four to um
two with three absent. So four table. No. My only my only council president my only point here is that the capitalist has made mention to us that we need to get these thing done by by the end of this fiscal year which is we're we're less than a week about a week away I think at this point. So I would hope
that my colleagues would be fiscally responsible and vote in favor of this. Thank you. This is on the motion to approve. I'm starting with council Reyes who is noted as absent. Council Mamo, no.
Council Santiago, no. Council del Rosario is also noted as absent. Council Luzon, no. Council plant. Yes. Council Levy, yes. Councelor Vice President Infonte, no. Council
President, no. What's the two? Yes. Um, one, two, three, four, five. No. And two absent. Parliamentary. Council president. Parliamentary question. Parliamentary question. Uh, just because we've just disposed of this of this matter now. We we've taken a position.
We didn't table it. We made a definitive decision that we weren't going to support it tonight. Our rules don't allow us to go ahead within the air to go ahead and take another item up. So, um I guess that's that's the concern that I have going forward on this if we can't What is the prevailing side? The
prevailing side is a no vote. There's five councils with the no vote. So, any of those five council that wanted to reconsider the vote that vote no can reconsider the vote. I'll reconsider my vote. I'll make a motion to reconider my vote.
I'll make a motion to reconsider my vote. Is there a second? Seconded by councelor Levy. Discussion. Seeing none. All those in favor say I. Um, roll call. Madam cler
councelor And a motion to reconsider. Yes. To reconsider the item. No, this is just to reconsider it. Yes. So, another discussion to continue. Um, council plant, yes. Council Luzon, yes. Councelor Del Rosario, again noted as
absent. Council Santiago, yes. Councelor Marmal, yes. Councelor Reyes is again noted as absent. Council Vice President Fonte. I don't know. Oh, I'm sorry. Council President Rodriguez.
Council Vice President. Yes. Sorry. My apologies. Um, what's the the count total count? Okay. Reconsider passes. Council President. Now, thank you counselors to allow me to reconsider my vote. I make a motion to
table. Motion has been made to table by the council president. Seconded by council marl. No discussion on table matters. Um all those in favor say I. I. Roll call vote. Madam clerk. This is on a motion to table the
document. I'm going to start with um council Reyes who was noted as absent. Council Amamo. Yes. Council Santiago. Yes. Council del Rosario was noted as absent. Council Luzon. The table. To table. Yes. Council plant.
Yes. Council Levy. Yes. Council vice um council president. Yes. And council vice president. Yes. Again. Now this is seven in favor. Two absent. So what is the seven in favor and two absent? Motion carries. Motion
carries on table. Uh motion uh table on item 23625. Item 23725. Item 237-25, the re reauthorization of council on agent revolving fund accounts expenditure limits of $150,000 was sent
out with a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Motion to table second. No, no, no. Wait, wait. The underlying motion is motion to approve. I can hear a second on that motion first. Second. Properly second. Discussion.
Discussion. Council plan cappo I ask the capital to please come forward and that's on item 23725 understood council on aging revolving plan good evening cappo um can you just remind us as to why it's
important or is it that we need to have a final vote on this and why this particular item is important that we have a vote before the end of the fiscal year 237 uh yes ma'am I I believe uh the director
of council on aging um Miss Martha Veles is online and she will be a good person to hear from when it comes to the reauthorization of the revolving fund. Uh hi everyone. Yeah. Uh thank you uh
director uh for being here online. she's online and if councilors if you have any questions on this revolving account. Yeah. The question before us council president is is why it's is it important that we adopt this or vote in favor of
it before this fiscal year. This is money that we use for uh activities that are not covered through the um general budget. So money that's collected is really for programs that go back to the seniors. So hopefully we can pass this so that we can continue to
serve our seniors. All right, counselors. U any questions to the director? I have got a question for the cap regarding timing. Um I think we all know where this is going to go. We're going to have a discussion. We all know it's going to be tabled and we're not going to be able to talk about it. We're going to do that
several more times. We know what's going to happen. We we've seen the movie. So I think it's important plan. I'm talking about number 237. This is not a movie. It's not a movie, but it's a pretty important vote. All these votes are and
and it's important that we know what we're doing here. And I think it's also important for colleagues to know why so we understand what what's going on. Maybe there's a compelling argument that we need to delay this, but it hasn't been made yet why there's a compelling argument. I haven't heard it but because
I can't we can't make it anyway. Why is it important that we that we have to pass this before the end of the fiscal year? Sure. So each department has an allowed amount during their budget for operational budget but most of these uh appropriations or authorization for
evolving funds allow the department to actually receive money for activities such as the senior center, recreation. Uh I mean recreation is a great one. We're having uh the youth recreation. It's Jul um in July. So without
revolving fund, I'm not sure how they're going to manage the uh the recreation for the summer. So all these uh revolving funds will not be able to be operating come next week. Thank you. And I think the fundamental point and I'm not going to speak about
many of these others is that what we're seeing here I think cappo is what we're going to do tonight is that there is a there's an anticipation there's going to be another meeting sometime between now and the 30th. Uh if not there'll be a special meeting called I'm going to presume. I cannot imagine that my
colleagues here are not going to allow this to go forward or any of the others to go forward. I can't I mean there's something else going on. I don't know what it is because no one's articulating it, but I find it really hard to believe that nobody wants to see these programs go forward. I don't think that's
happening. So, um, but I just I I just really wish Cappo that I that I could know what the argument was why we should not be voting in favor of tonight. That's what I wish. But I I just don't know what that is. Thank you.
Any other discussion? Any other discussion, counselors? Any other discussion on item 23725? All right. No more discussion. What is the underlying motion? Uh
an underlying motion to approve by council. All right. There is an underlying motion for to approve. At this time, I'll call the questions. All those in favor, please say I. No. I uh madame cler please call the role.
This is on the motion to approve. Motion to table. Um there's no motion to table. There's no motion to table. I would like to change my motion to table. Second. Is that is that an order? Motion. You don't change. No, no, wait. Um you already made a motion to approve.
To approve. So if you withdraw your motion to approve and then it will be an order. I would like to but I mean you have to you have to tell me what you want. I would like to withdraw my motion to approve and uh motion to table item 237-25. Second. All right. The motion is in
order. Um motion to table been properly second by councelor Mar parliamentary query with council. Councelor Llan. You you have a question. What is the underlying motion if we're making a motion to table? The underlying motion is motion to table. She withdraw her motion. Usually there's an underlying
motion to anything. There's a motion to approve, motion to disapprove, motion to something, and then someone makes a motion to table at that point. I'm trying to figure out what's the underlying motion. The underlying motion is a motion. A motion at in this case is motion to
table. Am I right, mad clerk? There will be no underlying motion. So when it comes off the table, you will start fresh with nothing, no underlying motion. You will not have a motion to approve before you you'll make a motion at that time. What can president did? She um put a motion a motion to to
approve then withdraw her motion. It is within right to withdraw her motion and then at that point she also make a motion to um motion to table and that's in order. Um any other parliamentary procedure
question? I hear none. Madame Clair, please call call the motion to to table. This is on a motion to table. Councelor Levy, no. Council La Plant, no. Council Luzon, yes. Council Del Rosario is noted as
absent. Council Santiago, yes. Council Marmal, yes. Council Reyes is noted as absent. Council Vice President Infante, yes. Council President, I vote yes. What's the count? One, two, five in favor. Two nos and two absent. All
right, the motion carries. Island 23825. Madame Vice President Infante. Uh, that one need an an amount. Mr. C, do you have an amount for island 23825? That's the recreation. It does not have a limit amount. It just have a limit amount as to the amount it can be
transferred to the following year, which is 10 $10,000. $10,000. Mhm. So basically, this one work a little different. Yes, it's a different stature within Mass General Law. Okay. So, it's 10,000 the max to carry forward, but it
doesn't have a limit as to how much can come in, how much they need to spend, and so forth. All right. Um, there's a motion uh can madame vice chair, can you present us with a report? Item 238-24, reauthorization of the
recreation and park self-supporting service revolving fund account was sent up as a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Second. All right. There's a motion on the table and there's a motion in front of us
properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any names? Madam, the motion is to approve. Motion is to approve when we call we call in the
question. Um, all those in BBCI. No. ML, please call the RO. Council President Calling the RO. So, let's wait. This is a motion to approve. Council was noted as absent. No. Council
Santiago, no. Council del Rosario is noted as absent. Council Luzon, no. Council plant. Uh, yes. Council Levy, yes. Council vice president, no.
Council president, I vote no. Fails. Uh, two yes. Two, two yes. Voting in favor of the item. So, it fails. Um, one, two, three, four, five voting no, two are absent. Motion to table. Uh no, it's not motion to table on this because it's already
denied. I would like to reconcile my vote on item 23825. Uh the tally vote was uh 522 absent. 522. It it failed. It failed. Two people voted yes to approve the item. Five
people voted no. So the item failed and two people are absent. So on the pre side, I can reconsider my vote. Second. I would like to make a motion to reconsider my vote on item 23825. Motion has been made by the council president.
Is there a second? Second. Seconded by council Santiago. Discussion. Councelor Lean. Thank you. So, I think we all know what's going on here. And we don't if if this vote fails,
the council president doesn't want to see it fail. He wants to be able to table it. We've gone through this once before. We've seen this before, and I expect that to happen again. Um, I just it just u stuns me that
we're using this parliamentary process for a purpose unknown that's not been divulged. No one has spoken about it. But apparently there are some people who have been who have who believe that this is so important that we not vote on
it tonight for reasons that are not divulged in a public place where we're supposed to be doing the people's business. We're supposed to be talking about the reasons and have discussions and we're supposed to be having
we're supposed to whether it's pro or against we should be having these kinds of discussions but tonight we're not tonight we're just going to be tableabling if something doesn't happen because there's something else there and I don't think
I don't think that's what we're here for. I don't think we got elected to do this. If you want to table it, we have every right to do it. There's no questioning of the ability and the power of the majority is very real and it's been proven this evening.
That's the way it is. But what really causes me consternation is not knowing whether it's this or other matters, maybe a half a billion dollar matter that we didn't deal with tonight and there was been no discussion. I just think it's important that if
we're going to have a debate and we do talk about this transparency thing, it's not a catchphrase. It's real. Why are we doing this? What's the purpose? I don't know what is going I it is unclear to me the rationale. Maybe I will join you. If
I knew what the problem was. If if you said to me the reasons why we're not doing this tonight is because of whatever it is, I could say, "Amen. I concur. I'm not afraid to I'm not afraid to change my vote. I've done it I done it last week.
I could do it again if there's a compelling reason. But right now, what's what's what I'm struggling with is that everybody seems to know I guess what this is. There's a and I and I don't know what that is. And I just think it's important that we that we just be more
forthcoming because right now I don't believe that we are. Thank you. Counselors, any other questions or comments? Seeing none, we now have a motion to rec reconsider our vote. Um, all those in
favor say I. I. I. Any naysay? The eyes have it. I'll make a motion to table. There's a motion to table item 238-24, seconded by councelor Santiago. All those in favor say I. I. I. Uh, roll
call. Madame clerk, this is on the motion to table. I'm going to start with council Levy. No. Council plant. No. Councelor Luzon. Yes. Councelor Del Rosario is
noted as absent. Councelor Santiago. Yes. Councelor Marmal. Yes. Councelor Reyes is noted as absent. Council vice um excuse me, Council President, vote yes. Council Vice President, yes.
So the motion carries, five voting yes, two voting no and two absent. Motion carries. Now we are calling item 23925. Madame vice president infant and the chair of the b and finance committee. Item 239-25.
The reauthorization of Veterans Memorial Stadium revolving fund account expenditure limits in the amount of $100,000 was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation. And I make that as a formal motion. Motion to table. Uh before we table, the motion
the motion is to be second. Second. It's been uh need to be second and then we can have an underline motion. What? Anybody would like to second the motion to approve. It's a motion to approve properly second by councelor Santiago. Discussion on the motion to
approve. Uh I hear no discussion on the motion to approve. Uh now it is in in order to motion to motion to table recognize I'm sorry to recognize the motion to table. Sorry properly second. No discussion on the
table matter. It's been second by councelor uh infante. Uh madame clair. Please call the ro on the motion to table. This is on the motion to table. I've got um council noted as absent.
Council Ml is yes. Motion to table. Council Santiago. Yes. Council Del Rosario is noted as absent. Councelor Luzon. On motion to table. Yes. Council plant.
No. Council Levy. No. Council Vice President Infante. Yes. Council president on the motion to table. Uh yes on the table. Motion carries. Uh item 24025, Madame Vice President and the chair of
the finance committee. Item 240-25, the reauthorization of library programs re revolving fund accounts expenditure limits in the amount of $50,000 was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Second.
There's a motion on the table to foreg discussion on this item. There is no discussion. Move the question, please. Can I make a motion to table? Council president. There is a motion to table.
Second. Mal, please call the role on the motion to table. This is on a motion to table. Councelor Levy, no. Council plant, no. Council Luzon, yes. Councelor Del Rosario is
noted as absent. Councelor Santiago, yes. Councelor Marl, yes. Councelor Reyes is noted as absent. Council Vice President Infante, yes. Council President Rodriguez. I vote yes.
Again, five in favor, two absent, two nos. Council President, we have a one of our colleagues trying to get online is having difficulty. Councelor Ray, is there anything that you can help? Uh, is that I have no idea. She's sending us a thing that her Zoom is not working. So,
I seen L that just went in LPM L. So, I really I don't know if any is that because I have seen everybody here that I recognize but I mean I don't see I will resend her the link for the meeting. Uh LPL
can you have that's the name of that LPL u can you please say something so we can uh I don't think that's her. That's not her. That's not her. That's the only person that is trying to
get in. No, she's not able to lo in. I'm going to send it to her right this second. I think this will help. So, Madame Clair, what is the on motion if there is any we call the island 241 yet? We didn't get there. We're not there yet. We're there now.
Um I wish she because I actually she called me. Okay. She said yes. She's using her phone. I'm sorry. Press. Oh, okay. Uh can you communicate with us please? Um, counselor very quick to see if we can hear you because we need to
call the roll call for you all the time. And can you please just for that uh can you please change the name from L LPL to your name? LPL is me.
I don't think that's her. I don't think she's not logging in at all. Like her texts are saying I'm not able to log in. So I just It is me. I'm so sorry. What was this? This is the Janelle Abro, the director of Lawrence Public Library. Lawrence
Public Library. Got it. Yes. Dang. I My apologies, guys. I'm actually connecting right now picking on my son from soccer. My apologies. All right. So, do you have any notification from
the uh from the from the the revolving account? I resent her the codes and just said, "As her, please try again now." I'm sorry. What was that? Eileen, [Music] director Bernab, I'm sorry. I didn't
hear that. Um Janelle, they're not talking to you at this time. We we're going to we're going to proceed um and then we we're going to recognize council. Item 24125. Madame vice president and the chair of
the of the finance committee. Item 23 241 madame vice president infante. Item 241-25 the reauthorization of the peg access and cable related funds revolving fund account appropriation in the amount of four $450,000 was sent up with a
favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Second. There's a motion uh to approve properly second discussion on this matter. Uh madame cla please recognize or call the role for councelor re motion to table council president. Uh I'll recognize it in a
once u I'll recognize the motion in a second. Thank you. Uh madame cler please call the role for councel rees. Councel rees. Uh any discussion on this item? Um councel I'll recognize your motion. What is your motion? Motion to table.
Second. There's a motion to table properly. Second by councelor Mamo. Um all those in favor, please say I. On the motion to table, uh Malanch, please call the role. This is on a motion to table. I'm going
to start with you. Councel Reyes. I don't know if she council Reyes, can you hear us? Maybe she's Can you You may be muted. Can you type your vote? She's muted. Yes, you're muted. Can I Now she's coming. Hi,
Councelor. Uh I I not hear the the motion. The motion first. Madame Clair, please call the role for council. I did and she said she Okay. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Now the motion is to table item 24125
which is the authorization of the of PE assets cable related uh funds revolving funds accounts appropriation for the amount of $450,000. The motion is to table no the motion uh councelor vote no no to
table. Okay. Thank you, councelor. Councelor Marmmo, yes. Council Santiago, yes. Council Del Rosario is noted as absent. Councelor Luzison, yes. Council plant, no. Council Levy, no. Council
Vice President Infante, yes. Council President Rodriguez, vote yes on the motion to table. Item 24225. Madame Vice President and the chair of the V and Finance Committee. Item 242-25, the reauthorization of DPW recycling
revolving fund account expenditure limit in the amount of $150,000 was sent up as a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Second discussion is the motion has been properly second by councel. Discussion council plan. So I
just so I'm clear this came out of the committee by what vote? the out of the committee by what was the vote when it came out of committee? The committee voted in favor. Well, what was the vote out of committee?
41 4. No, it was three because councelor 300 because councelor Lozone was not was wasn't there. Wasn't present. So just so I'm clear when this discussion was made at the committee level only on this document although I think this is a pattern but on this
document it came out with a three nothing vote. Council president were you at that meeting? I was. Yeah. Did you vote in favor at the at the uh at the committee level favorable? Uh if you allow me to speak I will tell you how I voted. I I'm asking it's not a yes or no question. Right. I've asked you I asked
how did you vote? You can answer however you want and and I I voted uh at that moment to approve to send it to the full council with a favor recommendation for and then that's the motion that council vice president has made and that's the motion that we are
discussing at this point and that's fantastic. That's exactly what I'm standing on. So, what happened between the time that you voted for not just you, but whoever was on the committee, but from the time that you had the vote at the at the budget committee to tonight
that is now either we were either voting against something or we're voting or to table it. What was missing that we why did why did it get to this point where it's a three nothing vote? Fable recommendation unanimous. And what's changed? And what has changed? We we
don't have another motion to be able to discuss it. You're asking me for the future vote on how we're going to vote. Council President, I I I think if we That's something that I can I can sustain if we have all if we have eyes to see. Council President, I I'm not this We know what's happening. We know what's going to happen. There is a
pattern here. We're for those who are denying the pattern are putting their heads in the sand. It's very clear. So the question is for whoever is willing to answer the question, there's a three nothing vote for those three members who voted in favor of it. I would like to know so I can vote properly this
evening. Why did you vote in favor of it so I can know that? And then why are you changing potentially? You don't need any more time. Why? So I can maybe vote in favor of a motion to table. I like to do that. Why? Well, if you're asking me on how you vote, you never ask me how you
vote. You vote your conscience. You know sometimes council president that we do vote our conscience but we vote on principle and on the basis and we just sometimes we justify our votes. One when any constituent ask you how did you vote on something to any one of us we say we voted on this because of this
orc whatever the reasons are. I'm just curious as to what that means. So if you if your constituents ask you I voted one way or another you're going to you're going to you have to response based on how you voted. You cannot just say I voted because the council voted in favor
at the subcommittee level. It's not that's not the right answer. I think I I get it, council president. So just so I'm clear, there's not going to be a response to my question. No, I I say that I I voted favorably to send it to the full council. I get I get it. I'm
and I'm not saying that I'm not going I'm not going to vote favorably. I'm just saying that was the vote at that point. Now we discussing the vote and if another motion come up before I make my decisions I will I'll I
can consider that motion. It is voting our right to consider any motion. Thank you. All right. Uh can uh at this time counselors the vote? What is the underlying motion? Councelor I mean madame clerk. At this time we have an
underlying motion to approve made by council fonte. Seconded by councelon. All right. Any discussion on the approval? Motion to table. There is a motion to table by councelor Santiago proply second by councelor manmo. Uh was
not okay. Yeah. Um, no discussion on the table matters. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. Uh, Madame Keg, please call the role for councelor for all the counselors. This is on the motion to table the document.
Council Levy, no. Council Lant, no. Council Luzon, yes. Council Del Rosario is noted as absent. Council Santiago, yes. Council Mamo, yes. Councelor Selena Reyes, no. Council Vice President
Infante, yes. Council President Rodriguez, I vote yes. What's the count? The count is five in favor. Um, three opposing and one absent. Uh, motion carries. Uh, item has been table. Item 24325. Madame vice president, the chair of the
Bon Finance Committee. Item 243-25, the transfer of funds in the amount of 6,137,2126 126 from free cash to various accounts was set up um from from the committee as a favorable recommendation and I make
that as a formal motion. Second. My mic is off. There's a motion in front of us properly second discussion on this matter. Miss Kaf. Yes. Um I just want to remind the importance of uh any free cash transfer that's being presented to
you tonight. Um free cash ends on June 30th. After that, we'll probably have to wait till November until it's certified by the Department of Revenue. So any item here, specifically snow and ice deficits, if we don't clear it up, we're going to have to add it to the tax
recap, which means we're going to raise more taxes. And I'm sure you don't want to do that. President, so hold on one second. So you're saying that um if we don't clean up the DP the uh snow and ice deficit, we will need to add it to the tax recap, which means we will have
to raise more taxes. Um, you are that's an statement that it sounds like, oh, if we don't do that and then I'm just letting you know. No, no, no, no, no. What you what you're saying we have we have to you say we have to add, right? You can do whatever you decide. Whatever. And then uh but it would be
fair for me to give you all the answers. In this case, free cash ends this week. After that, we can't use any free cash. We understand. We understand that. Okay. Thank you for the information. Even though and uh and or you you have to it's not like it's going to just go.
Taxes get increased by the vote of the council if it is a supplementary budget. We understand that this is the only deficit that is allowed by law to be included in the tax recap if it's not clear out by the end of the year. Yep. Understand. So you know um and that's
specifically for the M snow and ice. How what was the what's the amount on the snow ice? The snow and ice is 1,665848. So the 1.6 million out of the six millions that you have in front of us, right? That's correct. Correct. No
problem. Um All right. Um Council President, Councelor Luc, give me one minute. Madame Cler, can you repeat the the motion that we have the underlying motion? Right now, there is a motion to approve document 243-25, which is the full 6 million. Okay. It
was it was second by seconded by council. Okay. Okay, the underline motion is to approve. Okay, no problem. Councelor Lo, can I ask to uh remind us how much we have left and free cash just for the record? Yes. So before any of these
transfers that are before presented before you um our balance is 14,94541. So that does not include the year-end transfers and the uh free cash transfers that we just talked about in item 243.
So there's two things before you that will use some of the free cash and those are items 235 and 243 and the year end transfers has a portion of that and then the uh the transfer
from free cash to various reserve funds and also the um snow and ice deficit. What will be the balance after if this council approves? What will be the balance on free cash? The balance would be 7,684,644.
[Music] And for the record, this administration started with how much money in free cash? $45 million, you said. No, in how much? FY25 the certified uh free cash per DOR is
15,737541. There's only one charge against this uh free cash and it's a transfer down by the fire department for 792,000. The item the other item before you guys uh you counselors, it's the item by the police department which was tabled
today. Now just for the record, I might keep thinking about 45 millions. too many numbers because you're probably referring to the original amount when they started in 2021. That's what you're asking. Thank you, council president. Yes. And when they started, they had $45
million in free cash. Is that accurate? So last year's free cash certify was 40 miss when they started when when the administration began uh back in 2021 November and then January 2022 that's
what she's when she's asking thank you council I mean that was that uh the I think you mentioned it ko in one of the meetings so the certification as of July 1st 2022nd 2022 was 42,980,4
42. Okay, that's what she's referring to. So, people that are watching, please do the math. Council President, I would like to make a motion to table. Second. Um, councelor motion to table. Council, there's a
motion to table. Uh, uh, councel, do you mind uh withdrawing a motion to table and allow councelor plan to speak if you allow? If you if you don't and then we proceed. No, council president. I'm not uh I'll call the questions. All those in favor, please say I. Madame
Clair, please call the roll. A motion to table. I have it made by council and seconded by councelor. Um I'm going to start with you councelor Reyes. No. No. On the motion table. Councelor Marl. Yes. On the motion to table.
Councelor Santiago. Yes. Yes. On the motion to table. Council Del Rosario is noted as absent. Council Luzon, yes. Yes. On the motion to table. Council La Plant, no. No. Thank you, sir. Council Levy,
no. No. Council Vice President Infante. Yes. And council president Rodriguez. Pass the count. Um, five in favor. Uh, three objecting and one absent. All right. Motion u motion carries on the table. Now we go to the housing
committee. Um, madame bash, madame chair, uh, marmal, uh, please go with item 17225. Um, item 17225, grant of utility easement to Eversource Gas Company for the installation of
utility infrastructure at 1-9 Hoffman Street, also known as 207 Marston Street. Um just for point of clarification, I was advised that this was tabled. Um Miss Pasqual, would you happen to know if that is the case?
Okay. So, this was I was advised that this was already tabled at at the subcommittee uh meeting level. So, I'm just going to move forward through you, council president. I'm Yes. Okay. So for cl for clarity 172-25 I was
advised that this was tabled at the subcommittee level. Um so I'm just going to proceed with the second item on the agenda 17225. Oh it was okay. Okay.
Okay. Um, so I I submit that. Okay. So, let me just read this again. Item 17225, grant of utility easement to Eversource Gas Company for the installation of utility infrastructure at 1-9 Hoffman Street, also known as 207 Marsden
Street. uh this was uh voted with a favorable recommendation to full counsel and I submit that to you in the form of a motion. However, I do not see um Mr. McCarthy here before us for purpose of
discussions. discussion. Hi, I'm sorry. Yep. Thank you. Um, this is on a motion to approve. I had it made by council and I apologize. This motion was seconded by council. Thank you, councelor.
Council Levy, motion to approve. Yes. Council La Plant, yes. Council Luzon, it's a motion to approve document 172. Um, councel Del Rosario is noted as absent. Council Santiago, yes. Council
Mamo, yes. Councelor Reyes. Yes. Council Vice President Infante. Yes. And council president Rodriguez. I vote yes. What's the count? Um 88 81. 81. Item
two, a motion carries. Item 20825. Item 20825, declaration of surplus property of 266-272 Jackson Street, map 111, lot 1 through the Home Equity Theft Act. Um, this was
voted with a favorable recommendation to be submitted to full council. I submit that in the form of a motion. Second, what's the address? The address is um, it's been properly second by councelor Santiago. address is 266 272 Jackson.
Um discussion discussion uh attorney have a potentially some something to add. Do you want to ask before I was going to set him up for the conversation. So Mr. Attorney the reason do you know why you're here? Yes. Okay.
Um this is one of the properties that we are now under subject as as you may or may not remember. Um there was a new law called home equity theft uh passed which gave very strict guidelines for cities and towns regarding properties that they
take by tax title and um unfortunately the other day there were multiple properties which were tabled. Uh unfortunately I was not feeling well that night. I couldn't come here and explain to you the importance that these timetables need to be met. Um, we only
have a limited amount of time to decide what we're going to do with the properties. We first have to decide whether we're keeping the properties or we are selling the properties. In this case, it was decided that this property would be sold. So, at this point, we have to declare it surplus. Once it's declared surplus, we have to immediately
get it appraised. We have to after we get it appraised, we then have to uh list it and get it out there. The reason don't is we already have a lawsuit against the city regarding properties in in particular the 10 condo units that
were here last week. One of them has already been included in the in the suit. What it is, for lack of better things, is lawyers looking to make money because they realize that you don't follow the proper procedure. I mean, the law itself is very equitable. I understand why it is. What would happen
is someone would owe $100,000 in taxes on their house. The city would take the sell it for 500,000 and keep the extra 400. That can't happen anymore. What has to happen now is if if you have $100,000 in taxes owed, which which by the way,
that's only an example. This is an example. Yes. That way we clear. Yeah. And the property sold for $500,000. Again, we would have to return that money, but we'd have to prove first of all that we got full and accurate money for the property. Um in this particular
property, this is a property that was taken for taxes. Uh there's a large amount of taxes on this property. So hopefully this won't be included in lawsuit, but it's before you to declare surplus because we need to meet these timets. Right. And and this is the property that is at the lot that is at
the corner of Jackson. And can you just cl give us some clarity and that way everybody locate and stuff? Um no, just the corner. This is the property that's in the corner of GM and uh Berkeley
Jackson Street Berkeley and Jackson that empty lot that is on the sides on one corner. Everybody knows what it is. Yes. Okay. It's easy that way because I mean we kind of like locate also. I wish there was a video we could show you. Yeah, I look at it online. That's
why I knew. Uh councelor Marmo. Um I believe um other items were um tabled and we took matters on the ones that there was like an emergency to move forward with. But there were questions
in regards to um what was the process of selecting um the realtor or is it someone that we're going to go through an RFP process for each individual property or are we retaining
someone to oversee all these properties? um obviously not altogether but are we just retaining one broker or realtor to oversee all properties? So the problem was that in the beginning we were up
against the fence. So we had no time for so we just did one property at a time we chose because of the amount we were able to choose one realtor we choose one appraiser we choose it but that's not the way we want to do it the way the want probably is we put an RFP out for any and all properties and they we get
someone to bid on this and put an RFP out for all these properties. That's the way going forward going. So, normally would be an RFP process regardless of the the price of or the value of the land. Exactly. It would be very specific though. We would only get for instance
um commercial real estate um appraisers and commercial real estate brokers for commercial property and we would get residential real estate appraisers and resident. So, it's really what the use of the property is first determines which one we're going to get. Um, are you able to reveal who's the current
realtor that we will be working with in regards to when one has not been see everything happens on a it hasn't been declared surplus. We can't list it with the realtor until it's surplus. Everything backs up to each other. So,
um, attorney was just asking if we have a list of realtors or if we have a realtor that is potentially lease this property. Correct. Correct. because you said we're not going through an RFP process for this one because of uh the time limitations. At this moment, we do not have a I do not believe No, there is
no realtor at this point. Can you So under the home equity act, they're very specific with how they want us to handle these. There has to be a realtor and there has to be an appraiser for one as opposed to what we want for
all. So in this case, are you doing an RFP? Yes, we are preparing an RFP after the declaration of surplus. And what is going to be the purpose of the RFP? The point person for the RFP? No, no, no. the the purpose of the uh uh of that RFP
what is going to be it's going to be for the development uh housing or park or so under the and I'm glad you asked under the home equity death theft act and I brought together the um powerpoint that I shared with you guys and that shared with you guys on multiple occasions to
educate you guys on this um home equity death act. So, municipalities that elect to sell property will be required to list the property for sale within 180 days of the final judgment, which has already happened. If the property does not sell with
within 12 months of the listing, the municipality will have to auction the property. The municipality cannot accept auction bids for less than 2/3 of the appraised property value, which is why we're using the appraiser. We want to make sure it's done correctly.
Um the sale the sale price will be used to determine the amount of excess equity if any um and must be sent by notice to any um interested parties within 30 days of the sale. Excess equity will be paid to all parties to avoid uh who make a valid
claim within 18 months of receiving notice of sale price. um cost incurred by the municipality from the sale will be deducted for the excess from the excess property and we don't have to that should that's the requirement so we
have to do an RFP um and we have to get a realtor and we have to get an appraiser versus now we use just me right I do this process with the legal and we do this all in house now it's being asked of us to do an RFP for a
real yes Um, so just to make sure I understood, um, attorney, did you say that going forward, obviously we're going to do an RFP now to get, uh, a realtor to handle this specific property, but did you state that going
forward, um, the vision is to have one realtor to oversee all of them? Yes. Get or get a list, put it out there and get a list of people that we can use. Okay. So, let me let me So, we don't have to each time go out. we just we can say
this person has been approved. This person has been approved. We can now list the property with them. So essentially part of this this program also came together with that receiverhip program from the court. Uh so the court
used to have or have a a number of receivers on a specific qualifications to be able to participate on the program. So, I'm assuming that the city will have a a a list of uh realtors that are qualified on the the statue or on
their uh the policies we have in the city of Lawrence. So, they can uh they can take turns perhaps one is this person did this property and then the next person will do next and so forth so on. That's the intent or that's not Yeah, the intent we're we're not looking
to specify anybody. We're not we we we haven't put it out yet. So we need to see who who responds to it. But yes, we want to see who who is going to be the real what are the prices they want to charge, what are the qualifications, you know, who are they? I um
I had asked um our purchasing department asked also the same question because I wanted to get the the best um the best response and the response from that department was we have to be um very cautious of how much this will cost us. if it will cost us more to do this
individually or more to do this as a group as far as payment towards any specific realtor. Like would it cost us more to bid with every with a different realtor every time or will it be more economic and more um sustainable for us? Would we be able to afford to do a
realtor every single process or will we be able to group them? We haven't really made a final decision on that. I think that the attorney well and and a way that the realtor work is that they get a percentage of the sale, right? So, it will be the same amount. City is not spending money, but it also has to be
reasonable. Again, this is going to be if someone would bring suit, it's my house you took and I say, "Oh, you used Tim Hootin realtor who charged us 25%." Um, that's not going to be No, no, no. because the the the realy war is like
you set up the percentage and then whoever applies on the RFP knows that that's the percentage the percentage of the property is like anywhere between this percentage and this percentage the city will say we'll pay this percentage of the property sale correct that's what
it is and then realtors that allow that wanted to do the work for a percentage and then they will they will bid on it I mean Let's be honest here. 99% of these properties nobody's going to make a lot
of money on. And we're talking $5,000 values, $7,000 values, you know, this it's the exact opposite of what you think. I don't think there's a lot of realtors out here dying to get this business. I think this is more annoying because you're selling small unbuildable lots or you're smelling smelling
whatever. I mean, this one happens to be worth $150,000. So, but even In today's market that's not much that's that's you know council president does the home equity act not give you
some sort of guideline in terms of when it comes to this portion of when it comes to selling the properties it gives us date lines it doesn't give us guidelines it tells us you must do this by this date that's what it says Lousern council. Um, thank you, Council
President. Um, and I know that, um, you've been trying to have a meeting with me. Uh, and we haven't had the opportunity to sit down,
but this property is in district B. I think it for the benefit of my constituents and myself, I would like to get a notice
uh before sending this to or at least when it was going to be in front of of the housing uh committee. My other question is uh that was a comment. My question is
yeah no it's okay. Uh uh my understanding there is that you have to offer this property to whoever is the author the person next to it. We are not we don't we don't have you don't have to by law. No, no, we some prop some
properties just because of their nature are so small and unbuildable that realistically the only people that want them would be a butters like that you couldn't do anything a third party coming let's say the lot is as big as half here uh you can't park cars on it
you can't do anything so we offer those and they're of minimal value we offer them out of a courtesy to because we figure that's who's going to buy them the next door neighbors but we don't have to offer them to anybody. We we could put them out for bid and our our object really is to get the highest
amount of money for the city. But that not that that not doesn't happen often, attorney, but let's be serious here because most of these properties aren't worth anything. That's why But that is a if I'm correct, that is a parking lot.
That is a parking lot right across from the pieces store. Am I correct? It's on the corner. It's it it you you are correct and wrong at the same time. Go ahead. Stop. Uh it is an abandoned lot that people are parking on. It shouldn't be a parking
lot. It's not a parking lot. It's not designated as a parking lot. But right now, much with many lots in this city, if you have an empty lot, blink and you'll have somebody storing cars, trucks, mobile homes, anything on it. So, attorney, that's why we're trying to
get some use out of it. Get some tax money. Attorney with all due respect that you don't live in Lawrence. I You don't live in Lawrence. You don't? I do not. No. Okay. So, you don't know what we are facing right now with parking. I understand. No, I understand. Especially
in my district. It's horrible. All I can All I can talk is from personal experience that I keep getting calls from the mayor's office saying, "Have we rented out this lot or are we doing anything with this lot?"
and then and we look and there's 20 cars on it. Again, I I'm I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm saying that that's that's a problem all over the city. I do want Well, in my district is really bad and it's going to get worse with the new two schools and you need to like uh try
to park your car after 6 p.m. in Jackson Street on Jackson Street. especially near that area where this parking that you don't want to call parking, but it's being used as a parking by the neighbors. I think that it's important
to at least um speak to the district uh council uh and find out what's the need in the neighborhood. We are building a new school without parking. without parking
maybe four blocks down or maybe a little bit more but it's going to impact the entire district. So people that live You don't live in Lawrence. No, just I I No, I'm trying to I want to mention the
street, but he's not going to know which one I'm talking about. No, he knows. He knows. You have a lot of calls. You know where Bruce Street is? Which street? Bruce Bruce Street. He doesn't know. Okay, you're right. But it's nothing wrong. We're not living around here. And what I'm trying to explain to you,
attorney, is that the people that are that are living there that they used to park in that area are parking three or four blocks away. So some of them are parking on Jackson Street with the street where you planning to sell this
property. So what I'm trying to say here is that we need parking. Believe me, I we need parking. And just so you are understand indicating I don't make any of those determinations. That's her department. She discovers about that. I
only get it when there's legal. Let me bring some clarity here within the law that is also established that another option another options that we have and at this point we're not choosing that is to keep the property. Correct. Thank
you. uh that if we decide to keep the property for the purpose of parking, that's an option that we're not exploring. Correct. But but we did send out a notice to to every department in the city and including I guess including the city council saying here is this
property. Um do does the city have any interest in it? Because obviously, as you say, if the city has interest in it, if this if this lot were right beside a school, I don't think we would have this conversation. I think the city would say, "Yes, we have an interest in it. Yes, we need parking for the schools. No, what what councelor Lon is saying,
it's always offered to the city first before we go. Councelor Loni said that the that the domino effect of that uh the Ley school being built at around there maybe eight 10 blocks from there
is going to reflect the parking lot or the lot that if become a parking lot is going to be a release to people around there or people you know a little far from there if it is a public uh parking lot being built by the city. That's what
that's what I respect opinion. I I answered in perfectly what you said again if the city have decide if the city decide to keep the the lot. Yes, it is a potential to develop a parking lot there. It it would be yes it will be but
and that's so if the council decide not to vote for to declare a surplus and then the city will look into something else. I think and and thank you council president. I I think that what's happening in in this what's going to happen in district B due to the new
school is going to be chaos. That's the only way to define it. They need 900 parking spaces that we don't have. All most of the residents are asking for resident uh parking and
unfortunately we have provided some of them we but they also getting organized because they don't find a space to park their car and this is also h a they um bringing other issues. People are
fighting for a parking space and it it might be a great way to make some money if one of them wants to buy the lot creates a parking space and rents. Maybe it's a way for the city to make some money. Attorney not my decision. Uh I
kind of three times. Yeah. So, just to clarify the comment that um councelor Lone made earlier about we should let you guys know what's going on and we should keep you in the loop. I I have tried my best since I've been here to um have a clear open up line of
communication. I have offered for all of you guys to come into my office. Some have come, some for, you know, scheduling reasons haven't been able to go. I know it's not that you don't want to. I know it's just scheduling. Um and I'm I'm open to having that line of communication with you guys. I also want the best interest for a city where I was
born and raised in. and I hear the cry. Um, and I understand what's going on. Um, we still do need to declare the property surplus though, which is what what we're here. Um, right. Right.
Yeah. And so in in reference to the home equity theft acts, I sent Reena's out to all the department heads, including yourself, councelor um council president. Um which at that point you decided that you didn't see any um foreseeable use in well
if it's if if it's in your Well, that's the that's the point. You have to have the in your budget to be able to develop that moving forward. So if you say as a council is what I'm saying is if the city have a news for it which potentially if the city is have the intent to develop a parking lot and then
that that option should be explored because right now if you ask the city clerk do you need that lot she might tell you no if you ask the city council we we're not there to be able to develop something or park there but if if
potentially if you ask a a a a a a whoever is in charge to develop those parking lot because we have one on on uh on that we develop close to the Gilmet school for the need of the school. What I can and on this it could be a potential use as well. We don't know. I
don't know. I just saying I think that that's something that we can consider as a as a department when we're receiving these applications. What is the real need? Can we, you know, um, consider an application that's for parking versus a application that's for a three family home there? Those are things that we can
discuss and I will bring that back to the table to discuss with my department when we do speak is addressing the top three things that we have, which is parking and housing and um other things that we have, but those two in particular. Well, because it's home equity theft and
the time constraint, it's really kind of a rush to make sure that we um line up with the dates that were given to us by the And the other thing that should be noted, again, I'm just going to give you fake numbers. Let's assume this property is worth $150,000
and we took it for $40,000 taxes. Whichever department decide they want it has to come up with $110,000. This is not free. Sure. It has to be the fair market value. The city has to pay fair market value. Someone else has to. That's the
purpose of the home equity so that the city doesn't steal these properties. Again, I'm not casting apersion. That's to protect the homeowner. It's we don't get it for free. We pay the same price as the people on the street pay. So, if if the city So, if you ask the DPW if
they want it, they say yes. Well, DPW, do you have the $110,000, which is the difference between the U taxes we're taking it for and what it's worth? They might say, oh, now I don't want it. But again, nothing is free. I just want to make that's the only point I want to
make. Nothing council president and your where you're coming from, attorney, I do, but we never hear any proposal on parking. We complain about parking. We had meetings to talk to the
constituents about parking, but we never offer them any other choice, unfortunately. So, I'm concerned you're going to sell that or were you going to declare that? Maybe you're
going to sell it for a house. Uh, is that the intention? No, we never we know it could be a parking. It's whoever's going to again, we have to get the most money. Who owns if maybe you have this information who owns the
the lot the lots? The city of Lawrence right now. There's two lots here. The city of Lawrence own it right now. That's why we declaring surplus the entire the entire lot. Yeah. So the the person that has a mini the little division there that's also city belongs
to the city. Yeah. Oh they just they just put the childling fans in the middle. Yeah. They they they have you stopped by you know that the lot is divided. It has a h a fence.
that I um I I'm not sure. Can I finish? As as you have so stated, I will just rely on the fact that the lot shows in green. Uhhuh. Then there's a fence. Then there's another lot that's not that's
not ours. That's okay. Because that person parks uh he sells cars, I think. Okay. But but again, the fence the lot itself is not Which one is we're in green? Yeah. Can
Yeah, but I I don't have it. I know you did. I No, I know you did. That's why I started the uh No, but I want to see it. It's in the package. So this is the
green that that is that doesn't belong to the city. The the one that's not green does not belong to the city. Okay. So the green does just to make sure the one that they're using. Yes. The one that they using for the one that people are
parking on belong Yeah. Well, they park all over the places. That is that is the reality. And I don't blame them. they don't have nowhere to park. Um uh but once again I think that uh we need to
think about parking not only in houses. A can you look can you can you talk uh can you talk to us? Can you talk to us a little more about the the deadlines we have? I know that that passed already for a long time ago.
This particular this particular property we were supposed to respond by 18th June. So, we're at 18 on June to who? To the state. Yes, according to the state. So, we need to respond back. I have a notice from Is that the same as the other property that you have at the housing committee? Um,
so most of them are around the same date. They're not the exact same date, but they're all upcoming just like this. This is just the one that has the date. The other ones are going to come back in. All right. Let me ask you a quick question then. If uh if um if you go ahead and and and
proceed with the RFP, the city can still decide at that point, no, we're not doing RFP, we're doing parking. Am I correct? Even though it's a clear surplus. No, you you have to make a decision in the beginning whether the property is being retained. There are two different timets whether the
property is being retained or the property is being sold. That's an initial decision that must be made. So, okay. So if we take a vote today, it will it will be to either one of those two. Again like the who's making the decision
the council or not the request went out to the city do you want to retain it? The city came back and said we do not want to retain it. So we processed down that path that says we are going to sell it. No one was interested in it. So therefore we have to take the path of
selling it. And it could very well be a parking. I just don't know what the applications are going to look like. I have to review those, but I will consider those things when they come to us. But it won't be a city. And then the and then u the RFP.
Talk to us about the RFP. Um the RFP like other services, we put together an RFP was solicited for bid. It goes out public and and what are your requests on the RFP? We haven't even gotten there. Just trying. I thought that the RFP was supposed to be approved by the council.
I'm sorry. I thought that the RFP was supposed to be approved by the counc of the apple question. Again, all I'm saying is we're just trying to declare it surface. Until we declare it surface, there's nothing we can do with the process after we declare a stop loss is the next is the
development that at least a draft the council need to see for us to take a vote whether or not we want that to be on that direction. Okay. I don't believe you have we did that last time with that uh 292 water street. Again, I believe that
may have happened. That is not the requirement. And just to uh just we need some clarity on that. Just to add to that, that's actually um that's been trying to