--------- coun how are you vacation who's on vacation not me good evening and welcome to the public safety committee meeting today is Tuesday
February 25th it say the 26th on this it's it's the 25th um it is now 6:17 p.m. members voting members present in the chamber we have to my right councelor Gregory dezario to my left
counselor Anna Levy and on Zoom we have the vice chair of the Public Safety Committee councelor Selena Reyes pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2022 this meeting of the Public Safety Committee is being conducted both in person and via remote participation a
reminder that people persons who would like to listen or view this meeting while in progress May either attend here in the city council chamber or use any of our social media accounts Pages at this time can you please join me in the
pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stand one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all I think my majority of the people
here are for the towing Council can can I have um a motion to approve minutes from our February turn 13th meeting so move motion has been made by Council Del rosar is there a second second second by
oh SEC seconded by councelor Levy discussion no discussion on tabled matters um I'm going to do the roll call councelor Levy yes councel De Rosario yes councilor
Rees councelor Rees she's not she's not muted she said she said yes okay thank you counselor all right now we have and I and the chair votes yes yes yes so item 30-25 is the review of city
towing list criterias and procedures uh requesting LPD and DPW to participate I don't believe DPW is here with us tonight they weren't here last time but we do have LPD with us again counselors at at our last meeting um I I made I
asked for a motion to invite the owners or or managers of the other toying companies that we have in our city um to get a more robust understanding of how how our towing companies that we do business with operate um especially because we've
been receiving complaints about customer service in the um while Towing are are are happening in the on on the streets um as of right now we received complaints from one particular company but I think it's fair to just invite all
the businesses get to know uh these businesses operations and have an opportunity uh to to converse within the council and and the and the businesses and I believe we do have we have Cody's and we have
shens um I'm seeing shens is up in the front so I'm going to invite you guys and Cody's y but I'm seeing shean in the first role so I'm going to invite you guys to the podium to introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit more about your operations um here in within
the City of Lawrence and and Beyond hi councilors my name is Robert Sheen it's the nature of the business I oh okay I'm sorry um it's the nature of the business a lot
of people most people aren't going to want to get their C tow most people aren't going to want to get the citation that goes with it it's the nature of the business we have to deal with it I know I wouldn't want my toad but it's it's something that we're paid to do and that's what we do there's set rates we
have to go by dpu sets that's that's what we charge some people what is dpu Department of Public Utilities that manage they're the overseers of all tow operations so they're Statewide they set the rate and we adhere to that rate so
people aren't happy with the rate sometimes that's a rate not set by us that's a rate set by the state so we we stick to that standard um we do the same thing for matthan police we do the same thing for the State Police um I mean it's a business we've been doing for a
long time we love what we're doing uh we love doing it with the city uh we try to keep the people h i mean there's going to be there's going to be complaints there's going to be people that upset we try and work with them the in the best of our ability you know within the confines of what we have to do by
keeping and also we got to keep the police happy if they point to a car that they need removed we we have to remove it it's not but the only thing is where the last people that the people see the DPW plows are gone the police office are gone when they come for their car it's
just us so we're like a man on an island usually it's my son that's handling it so it it can be tough sometimes they get they get upset with us but I mean it's the nature of the business that's what we get paid to do thank you counselors do we have any comments or questions for
the sheen toying company no counselor love you so do you do the same things for meing yes or both yes we all we're like the week the Cody's is on for
Lawrence we're on for methan oh so it's AR yes okay so one day here and the other or the other day they do it by a weekly rotation counselor Oh by weekly Yeah by weekly or weekly a weekly so one week we're in Lawrence and then the
other week the other week is uh so correct correct uh is start Monday to Sunday uh it's Sunday at midnight Sunday at midnight going into Monday and then you do it till the following Sunday at midnight going into Monday that's the rotation that laurren set up andth does
the same how many car have you been told during this winter right now I'd have to I'd have to I know for this are you talking snow removal are you talking the regular shift I know it's no in the snow I think the last
736 between the two yeah I think we did around 350 or 375 maybe during a week or doing no no the the the snow removal is different that's that's just on a 12: at midnight
to 6:00 in the morning that's that's when they do their standard snow removal operation that's for DPW okay all right thank you okay councelor councelor the Rosario thank youa and what is your lot capacity how many cars can you feed on your lot on a
M it's or allow by law to fit in your oh no we have I mean we can we can fit that that's the thing you got to shuffle everything around so before snow removal that's when we have to really get creative and uh have the guys move stuff
around we could probably fit 250 300 250 300 but it's tight and and that's that's in general that's including your your work with mthu and State Police no we keep the well the state police and the Lawrence
is at our Lawrence location meth separate that's at the MTH location so State Police the State Police in in the Lawrence Police that that's at our address at ten cver Street in South Lawrence y yep any uh councelor Reas do you have
any comments or questions for sheens no thank you okay I here thank you all right that's all thank you okay counselor now we're going to invite Cody to the podium to do the same thing sure good evening councils my name is Sean
Fountain I'm one of the managers of codes and Fred Nicolosi as well um Fred runs a day shift operations and as the general manager I run the uh night shift operations pretty much similar to what sheens does just we're just a we're just a little bit different we do um Lawrence
North Andover um are our main and the state are our main stuff of light duty Towing so we're on a rotation um obviously with sheans for lawence on North and rotation of another company State Police we we cover multiple areas and that's a
rotation as well with a few different companies we also do heavyduty Towing and uh transport equipment transport and we cover a heavyduty area basically um almost every Community North of Route 2 and north of 9 993 north north of 95 to
New Hampshire line and then from 495 up to the New Hampshire line we do that for heavy duty as well as state police light duty as well um the business has been the owner has been in business over 50 years um established a good business around here we do General Automotive
repairs as well equipment repairs um and general Towing and road service um based out in Lawrence we also have um we have multiple properties in the city AB but we have another property that AB buts our property um that we have as well um we also have a storage facility a
storage lot in methu as well um what are we about SE 60 employees 55 55 60 employees um provide 24-hour service someone's at our place 24 hours we always have staff on on staff's
always available and um like I said we we've been Towing for the city for many many decades now uh we do for the police we do the police Towing on the rotation whichin and we also do snow removal for the DPW C the rar to same question how many
cars do you feed on your lot I'd say in our lot between our two properties on Marson Street probably about 400 so when the city tell us that you can order you can only tow 86 90 cars is because the lot is full has been full no we've never told them that we've never
had a we've never had an issue with the lot being full it's just when they when we do snow Moval it's from midnight to 6:00 a.m. so they usually cut us off around 6:00 a.m. and it all depends on the weather conditions and the safety out there as well if the streets are tough to navigate and it's you know the
cars are iced in and stuff in order to prevent damage to the vehicles and have our guys get hurt or prevent accidents with the vehicles we're not moving as fast um and and sometimes you know you might have seven or eight guys out there sometimes you might have six or seven and it all depends on what else we have
going on in the city because between us and sheens we're rotating as well for the other stuff going on in the city so you could have your accidents you could have other stuff going on as well and we're trying to all navigate it as much as we can um but the the the thing is with the snow Moval it all depends is there's areas in the city that are very
difficult to navigate when it snows and we've had you know issues getting up to some of the parts of Tower Hill which I'm sure you can imagine getting up some of those Hills in a storm and accessing those as well as Prospect Hill so um but yeah we we don't have an issue with storing of the vehicles it's just time constrained while we're doing the snow
removal thank you thank any other questions or comments yes councelor Levy who authorize uh to remove a car can you do it authorized to remove the car from the public ways well for the
storm and the storm that's the the DPW they we with the DPW in conjunction with the police department um provides us a list of streets and we it's it's on it's odd and even but depending on the date and the DPW goes around with us and also
somebody from the police department goes around with the trucks and you tow the vehicles from the opposite side of the road so they can clear that side of the street It's usually the list usually starts with about 8 or 10 streets okay so practically so you don't
remove any car that is interfering with you to remove the the SN on glaze that DPW we only we only take the vehicles that were authorized to take in the snow removal operations we only take the vehicles we're authorized to take as
well as for the police department if they're doing um operations well they need stuff cleared or stuff that's been pared through the city ordinance violations or whatever we only take the vehicles when authorized by one of the two agencies so the carg go to the park or
whatever place if you are the one who is in charge during the we is going to your location yeah and not to um the other location so everyone has their their own location yes yeah and that's under security cameras
and light it and secure and and both both both companies have people available you have staff on 24/7 so there's always somebody there monitoring the vehicles and keeping an eye on everything and dealing with the customers as they come in well I have a complaint okay that's
is for both of you so people when they clean the the driveway they clean it and they leave it complete everything open when you pass through you make a B I don't think that's a plow that makes
yeah that's not us DP that's DPW yeah they push the we only take the vehicle if the vehicle is on the wrong side of the street when the city is trying to clean up that street the following night so it's usually after the storm when the DPW is trying to clear the streets of the snow that's when we take the cars we
don't just go take the cars if if you know or or move the yeah no I'm talking about after everything is clean so like the owners of the driveway after everything is clean they dryway and also that's the front of it RightWay on the
S3 when somebody is Flowing you know or the snow is being accumulated again in the front that the person has to come back and clean again and like this stor beside all the storm so there was a lot of ice yes and I did have a lot of
complaint from my area you know saying we clean it and now they plow and we had a beig a in front our driveway and not just that not just only a snow but eye and they
has to practically they have to break it up no I get that that would be something you would have to talk to the director Hae about um to have them take second passes through those areas once the stuff's melting or there's a secondary storm rolling through uh unfortunately we don't we don't get into the snow removal operations we call it snow
removal but the only aspect that we handle is removing the vehicles from the public way if they're impeding the plows thank you thank you councilor Reyes any questions or comments I'm going to assume she's
saying no okay okay if anybody has any questions I have a question yeah you can always reach out to us anytime if you guys have any questions or concerns or feel free to come by and you can check out the shop and the operation or something anytime I mean I've I've gotten my card sold by Cody so I definitely know where you guys are at
all right and I received amazing service um so well that's good to hear we're glad to hear it like I said we're always welcome anytime anybody wants to come by and I'm sure Mr Sheen would extend the same um I do have I do have a question for you how many cars did you guys tow
in total during the snow removal period for the last storm we did two nights for the last storm and I think it was uh what 250 maybe I don't think it was two storms or one storm it was like 190 wasn't it no we did one all the storms
combined or just one storm if somewhere between the last let's say the last say somewhere between 200 I'd say around 200 maybe 210 he's checking it right now all right the lieutenants check it and and then I have a question for for both
companies um that I've recently I've I recently received a a a concern and I and I would like either or to to either confirm or or deny this for us um
I was told that at times the towing companies received a list of streets To Go and Tow for cleaning purposes during snow removal but there are times where DPW does not go through those streets to clean and the complaints go to you guys
is this true yes that happens on occasion it sometimes there's streets they don't get to or the for unknown like one of the streets that was an issue last storm that we had to go down at a few times was Brook Street and Mechanic Street which if you I'm sure you guys know the areas those are very
tough to navigate in the storms especially they're too tight to get down and and with the conditions the road conditions as well um but and then also sometimes what happens a lot is once sometimes when we get through the list that's given to us by the DPW they actually go further and add some streets
on and have us clean up some more areas with them um if if time permits but yes to your answer people do come in and say the street my car was towed and the street wasn't plowed yes and this happens with Sheen as well 100% okay that's that's that's pretty that's pretty most of their frustration I've
given that information I've given that information to Jay as well cuz we're the last people that they see right I'm okay with paying for the car but my street didn't get plowed that's you know that's not like he explained to council Levy there's two
parts of it we control the vehicles then the plows control the removal part that's that's out of our hands well thank you um that is a complaint that comes to us as well though thank you so I the the takeaway for me at least um
having this this meeting with with both companies is that there's a limited time frame for you guys to do your work and obviously you guys have other commitments aside from from the city of lawrens and also there there is a followup issue on our end the city end
with with some sometimes with us not cleaning streets even though you guys are doing your part so this is good for us to know um and also good to know the exact uh limit that you guys have within your lots and and all that good stuff um
counselors any other questions or counselor the Rosario and through you and that was the purpose of me putting this together to realize because now we have we could answer and when I brought a company is because those complaints that I had about that company I didn't
have complaint about those two company so I invited them just to talk and see how we can make it better for our people make it understanding so now we know the procedures Jay actually Lieutenant Zulo I'm sorry i y got comfortable a little
bit um explain it how they get to toe or how they get you know that's also something that I wanted to know cuz one of the complaints was we don't have enough Towing on on on snow removal so how do we get into it so the service is
better also for us to clean but now we have a better understanding on this way and hopefully this conversation can help us answer questions to our continue thank you I want to say thank you to both like I mentioned with Cody's I got my C told received great service from
your company she you're in my district so you're one of our our amazing District e um uh businesses so thank you so much to both companies for what you do I know it's not easy uh it's not fun toing cars and I know that people can
become very um bothered and that's something that companies have to deal with as well so thank you for being here tonight and I think that is all that we have uh for this meeting thank you thank you good night thank you have a good night great J thanks thank youen unless
you want todateen you have an update or anything to provide before we close this item I know that's okay I know it's it's okay so again I think I think it would it would be benefit the council to understand kind of the process that we do for snow removal I know the DPW isn't
here uh but when the mayor calls for a snow emergency the blue light goes on that activates uh a couple of things that activates the police department to get officers to work snow removal that gets me to contact the tow companies that are on the rotation whether it's
Sheen Cody valys whoever's part of that snow agreement uh that activates traffic control because again they're part of that process which means they have to go to the tow companies to issue the
citations again at 11:00 we all meet all the tow companies meet with me with traffic control at the DPW with the DP w foran at that time the DPW Foreman has a
list of streets that are problems that we going to hit each tow company that's working that night is issued the list and then they deploy with an officer to the
locations the Traffic Control Officers go to the both designated tow companies once they're on the streets that they start with just say they're starting with Berkeley Street Cody starts at Berkeley Street they have a police officer they have a DPW uh
Foreman who has designated the vehicles that ought to be removed the police officer is the only one that can authorized the tow those vehicles and he has to be present Cody's or Shen or best price whoever's on the rotation cannot
take a vehicle unless a police officer is there to authorize it so that's the first step once those vehicles are authorized to be towed they hook up to them they tow them they bring them back to the tow yard once at the tow yard
there's a traffic control officer there issuing the citation a log is formed by Cody's with the vehicle that was brought in from what location with the plate number and then that is sent to the police department for data rentry so that when
people now come out in the morning and they look at for their vehicles they call the police station and they say their vehicle is gone we can say to them what street are you on Berkeley okay that vehicle is at Cody's oh it wasn't stolen no it wasn't stolen it's at
Cody's Towing you can pick it up there so that's kind of the process we do make sure and I say it every time we're there if we're taking a vehicle we are cleaning the street now does sometimes
that happened that the street doesn't get clean yes but again we try to make sure that if we're going to pull a vehicle out and we're going to tow it that we clean behind that vehicle that's kind of kind of the process just so that everybody's aware
and again I know I've been in direct contact with many counselors up there if you have a complaint if you have a concern please feel free to reach out to me I'll be happy to help you try to try to address that issue thank you thank
you I counc thank you at what time the blue light supposed to be on wait we have an so again anytime we have an approaching storm that is up to the mayor and the DPW
director to designate a snow emergency and again that's the mayor uh I have direct contact with uh the DPW director in the morning and I ask him hey what are we thinking and again it depends on the amount of snow getting to activate a
snow emergency or if we ticking okay and again the the the mayor and the DPW director worked that out has nothing to do with the police department when that light goes on they notify us of a snow emergency it's all a direction
of the DPW director okay all right so my next question is supposed to be doing to thew okay thank you you're welcome thank you councelor Reyes any questions or comments just want to make sure I'm going to assume no thank you
Council thank you council is can I have a motion to table item 30-25 so motion has been made is there a second second seconded by councelor dezario um now roll call councelor Levy
yes Council De Rosario yes Council Rees yes and the chair of in the affirmative all right now can I have a motion to untable item 43823 30 second delay at all traffic
lights SL all direct directions s signal signal I can't say it but you guys know second C re roll call councelor Levy yes councel De Rosario yes councelor Rees yes and the chair votes in the
affirmative counselors we've I've been communicating with our colleague uh counselor Vivian marmal um recently regarding an incident that happened uh in front of the ex's Towers in terms of I believe actually I'm going to invite
Vivan marmel counselor marmel to the podium and have her it's her District have her explain uh what occurred okay good evening counselors if you don't mind I'm just going to read over uh one of the emails that I sent to pretty much uh everyone um that pertains
to uh this public safety matter um there have been oh do I have to start off by giving my address just 341 Water Street councel District D Vivian marmel um there have been many concerns from residents from the Essex Towers which is located in the Epic Center of one of the
most challenging sectors of Lawrence um in regards to Public Safety uh in regards to Public Safety matters which is uh Broadway Essex Franklin and Common Street this meeting was initiated as a result of a recent deadly car
accident that took place in front of the Broadway and uh Essex intersection um to which many uh of the residents that live on nessc Towers unfortunately saw this accident take place and as a result of that uh it
brought many fears and concern concerns regarding the public safety matters in regards to the crossing of uh this intersection per se which is the Broadway and essic Street um many uh discussed uh issues and how we as
elected officials could do to improve uh uh these public safety concerns uh some have stated that um they are they have the inability to cross the street safely um due to the fact that the light is turning too quickly from from red to
Green um let me see the elderly community that lives in this sector are often um on foot and they're either visiting Pharmacy clinics uh grocery stores Etc um and I just saw this as an opportunity
on my end to try to see if we could try uh to move something forward and it is to my understanding that this item is is tabled um the last I heard heard of this item um I believe the chair Madam chair uh Miss Enon had requested either from
DPW or the um City's engineer to provide some sort of study review and recommendations um and from if I'm not mistaken that was back in October so I'm here to Advocate but I don't want to Advocate
um if it is not being supported with those that are tasked and on have the experience and knowledge to be able to provide us um on whether this is the right move um so I'm looking forward to ensuring that this item that we have
here is not staying stagnant um I I want it to give it momentum which is why I'm here to speak on behalf of uh of this item and if there's any changes that we need to make in order to improve our Public Safety I I am for it as well um
so I don't know if anyone else wants to speak in regards to this matter that could provide a little bit more substance um based on the last time you guys discussed this matter thank you I'm actually I I do have my city email open
I'm trying to find the last time we requested an update from DPW and the city engineer but um I can't huh it was in November so it was fair I'm sorry okay so the item was pres I think I I
think we unted it sometime in October uh councelor councilor Rosario and I and and I was old for it and and officer can pushed and pushed a few times um it was determined at that time before it got
tabled that 30 seconds was too long but Abel can was was he was saying that officer can was saying they even 10 seconds of delay able to Al alleviate some issues uh I remember that they put a clock and they they would try to see
how long 30 seconds was and they over here some of some of us find out it was kind of long but again he was able to said he was available to said that that even something just to delay the light a little longer would have help throughout the city so I like the conversation
going again and I think we need to implement somehow how cuz you can see it yourself sometimes you sit in the light and and and some of us stop and we wait until it's completely red on the other side but you can see that even when it's red on the other side people go flying
and if you hit the gas you're going to get hit so it's it's it's something that we need somehow Implement um to to help our traffic um again if it's not 30 seconds we should look into it to see it if it's because I mean also if it's too
long traffic will slow down and it will be the traffic is bad as it is right now so if we slow down traffic too much it will be worse so but something needs to be implemented yeah I agree and that's why I um stated I'm for making any adjustments um if
it's not 30 like I'm I'm I'm open to hearing from the experts as to what is feasible so if it's not 30 is it is it f like I don't even know if there's a current delay as we speak is there a built-in current delay and if that's the case then what is it and then how much
could we in increment it by that it's not really causing any traffic delays but also I I feel like um if it's a matter of saving someone's life then I think that that should take priority
over the inconvenience of sitting at a light for an extra 3 to 5 Seconds um that's all thank you counselor I know do we have any updates from and we also have a um representative from the fire department
here um from fire alarm that uh for those that that are watching or even in the chamber that don't know our our traffic lights are controlled by by the fire department um so all of this everyone
has a a piece of the pie when it comes to Traffic Safety do we have anything from the first responder side and for this item so good evening again councilors uh Lieutenant Trilla Lawrence Police Department so again just to speak a
little bit on on the lights I know we're talking about about a 30 second delayed light when they push the button again a lot of these lights are done with traffic studies and done by Traffic Engineers uh the Lawrence Police Department does not have the ability or
the authority to lengthen a light or to lengthen a u push button to 30 seconds again we have an expert from the fire department here from the signal division uh who will also tell you the same thing a 30second uh push button delay for
crosswalks it doesn't fall within the state guidelines we have to find out what the state guidelines what the state guidelines allow and again we just can't uh you know say oh well we think 30 seconds that's what it's going to be there would have to be a traffic study a
traffic engineer would have to be involved and again that's not something that the Lawrence Police Department's against we're all for it uh that intersection over there as well as a c you know cost for alarm for pedestrians it's also a top accident location that
we address continually uh every year uh with citations and enforcement so that's a problem but again to have a traffic study to have a traffic design or redesign of an intersection it takes a
lot of money uh and it certainly takes the power of the state delegation City delegation and you know again people from uh Mass DOT to get that going it's not that easy and again I'm no expert on it I know Jeff is here uh he can probably
shed a little light about the same thing that I'm talking about but from my experience it's just not a quick fix to change that light a lot goes into it right thank you lieutenant um can I have Jeff or do you want to say something officer I I I
understand what the Lieutenant's saying and I I I I agree with him however I do appreciate the council taking up this matter because I think that um as we spend money to fix the traffic signals because there's some kind of budget and
there is something going in place in play in order to make our Antiquated traffic lights that are so old that we have to wait months for pieces and parts to it that as they transition and spend $20,000 into each one that they factor
in something that can help in order to mitigate and also control the lights to have some kind of synchronization or at least some time delay to allow people to walk Andross the street and traffic to get through the intersection that gives people the uh understanding that no the
light's not going to change immediately from red to Green you're going to have to wait and that's okay I I think that part of us living and uh in a community that's so small we have to understand that there's a lot at risk when a kid
can't even cross the street because the traffic light changes too quickly that that's not an excuse people have to be patient we live in a community that's overpopulated and there are certain things that we can do to make it better so um you know I I think that I'll leave
the rest for Jeff because he's the expert on this but again what is it that we're doing to make it better and how are we spending our money in order to take these fact into account thank you and and aside from that I made this point during the
last full council meeting but aside from our community being overpopulated um actually this is one of the factors of that um we we're seeing an increase in speeding and for the last few years we've been told by DPW by the
administration that they were they were going to implement um strategies to help reduce or or help mitigate the speeding concerns and we have seen people fly by traffic lights without without any any
concern for others and um I can I definitely know at least of a few places a few intersections that may benefit even if it's a 5-second 10c delay doesn't have to be the full 30 but that's why we would need a traffic study
and more information from the expert himself Jeff can you please uh come up to the podium can you st your F your full name and and the department that you're from Jeff Medico uh Su firearm for the Lawrence fire department thank you can
you help us better understand I'm a little confused on how because the terminology makes a difference so when you say traffic lights versus pedestrian crosswalk traffic lights you're looking for a delay but then you're not allowing enough time for people to cross that's a
separate entity in itself that's pedestrian crosswalk versus traffic time delay so what exactly do we want because is there not enough time for people to Cross or is it you want a delay and you
want to make everybody stop your for the 30 seconds I you know what I'm saying because I I look at it two different ways is it allowed to allow people to Cross or you forcing people to stop
aario thank you the item that we have that we on table it was for traffic light delay uh now conversation come up and I see they asking for crosswalk time but the item that we actually had here at table it's it's something that officer
Cano brought up and it was a light delay uh it goes red on both sides and it's a little delayed and then you know then it turns green because it it seems like it turns red and green green at the same time while while crossing it's not but it feels that way people won't won't
stop hardly you see both lanes stopping I mean it will stop but not right away so somebody always is going on red so this item that it was table it was for that satellite to have eight delay
meaning that both both sides both directions will be red at the same time so that's what it is and now with the issue that console saw at or the inquiry that they have at that building so I hear the conversation of crosswalk time
so give us like oh car wants to say something and to add so just to try and explain councilor so when when there's a intersection and someone hits the crosswalk sign in order
to cross that traffic that is stopped gets the red light the other side that's going on the contrary I mean going in the perpendicular will get a green light what I was my idea was to have everyone
stop whether it's a crosswalk or not all traffic stops to allow people in traffic and congestion every to get through the intersection and it would implement or it would factor in people crossing you you just have to have everyone stop
because if you give people the green light in in another Direction it's just going to that's what's causing the chaos no one feels safe in order to cross so if there's a delay so that all motor vehicle traffic has to stop at least for
5 10 15 seconds it gives more time so that whether it's a pedestrian or Vehicles everyone clears the intersection safely that's the idea and now hearing from Jeff we're learning at
least I'm learning for the first time that the P The Pedestrian light system is its own separate enti that's where you see the Y it's separate from traffic light so I mean they work together they work together they work together but
they're but traffic lights and pedestrian is class it's labeled differently right and when an the button is pushed and you're seeing green that's because you have to wait in between Cycles is a cycle is Main Street
goes then they get the green then they get the red and then side street goes when you hit the button in order for a pedestrian to cross you're seeing a green on side street because it has to go in between two cycles so usually what
happens is if it's side street the button is pushed it's going to finish its cycle everyone will go red that that intersection The Pedestrian button does not work with green and in red it is red all the way around that's how a
pedestrian Works you're waiting and you're thinking it's not working it's because you have to wait possibly up to 70 seconds before that people don't wait I see it every day nobody has the patience to wait but that intersection should be in red all the way around for
the allotted time for The Pedestrian to cross now if we need to add more time or a contractor to program it differently to allow more time that's a different that's a different uh discussion but that intersection all intersections that
have a pedestrian crosswalk with the PED buttons pedestrian buttons should have it goes on red all the way around you just have to wait for it to fall into just because you hit the button is not instantaneous it has to go through through Cycles before it
decides okay you're going to go at this point it's red everywhere got it counselor Levy thank you um I have seen in many places you
know on The Pedestrian cross that the LIE instead of the LIE they have like a number one two three it's a countdown okay so see we would like to implement
something like that who's going to be responsible for usually a traffic study then they they determine what can be done as far as they'll set up an engineer will set up the timing of what it what it is and then it's
money yes okay it's always money I know that it's money but who's going to be responsible for the city the city the state the city that's is the one that should Implement because it was very difficult when we tried to start
implementing here camera too much money it's difficult we do it but I think that for the safety of the people principal for you know we
should start sinking on that also because I see people that when they okay you have a 10 second to cross the street is more easily for then okay we have extra amount or whatever amount we have
in here to cross that street and this is something in inclusive for traffic a lot of a lot of places also for the traffic they they they had on the street the lie and say okay you have a 10 second 15
second or whatever and it could be more easy for everybody right and for the safety of the of the but at least for the for people cruising the street you
know we should start sinking on get the money doing the story and start installing those like with second with the number with the countdown yes with a countdown exactly that's going to be a
mandatory requirement from the state if I'm not mistaken because our stuff is so old anything if you notice any new intersection that's been installed has the countdown on it that is like a requirement a standard that has to be followed
so we just haven't upgraded our equipment I don't want that's a different discussion that I I don't want to I know but um so counc you yeah councilor Rees is there anything you would like to add to the discussion are you all
set I'm all set thank you you're welcome I'm going to uh Mr blanch are you here for this item I have not thank you okay so with that being said I'm going to wrap up this item because the
[Music] main entity or or individuals that I'm hearing that we need is is DPW city engineer is a traffic study um I'm I'm actually very um not very but I'm a bit
disappointed that they're not here tonight because they did receive various emails regarding this tonight's meeting so um with that being said said can I have a motion to send another correspondence to DPW to the DPW
director and both City uh Engineers the main one and the assistant to be here for the next public safety no to give an update on this Ma on on this item and to be present for the next public safety meeting so move
motion has been made by Council dear seconded by councelor Reyes I mean councelor Levy discussion seeing none I'll call the role councelor Levy yes Council De Rosario yes councilor Reyes councilor
Rees yes and the chair votes in the affirmative thank you for those that did come tonight I did learn a little bit about traffic light system and I'm sure my colleagues did as well uh we will you'll be hearing from us we we do have the email chain and um uh yeah so thank
you for being here okay thank you thank you can I have a motion to table item 43923 so Mo motion has been made by Council Levy second by Council
devario no discussion table matters uh call the role councelor Levy yes Council the Ario yes councelor Reyes yes and the chair votes in the affirmative now can I have a motion to adjourn motion second Mo has been made by Council L seconded
by Council De Rosario all those in favor say oh uh call councelor Levy yes Council De Rosario yes Council Reyes yes and the chair votes in affirmative thank you so much counselors I'll be back
sir have a good night Part: 2
good evening and welcome to the ordinance committee meeting today you can come in come in today is Tuesday February 25th 2025 um once Miss howman gets back to her seat I'll ask her to call the
role Miss howerin clerk howerin Madame clerk howerin please call the role consor s Rees yes conr Rosario present Celina yes
present and chairman Mar present pursuing the chapter 20 the acts of 2022 this meeting of the ordinance committee is being conducted both in person and via remote participation reminded that persons who would like to listen to view review this meeting while in progress May either attend in person at the
location above or use any of the following access locations which include the Facebook Lauren city council page and the YouTube Lauren city council page I'll ask you all to please ride for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the pledge of the United States of America
and to the Republic stand Nation God indivisible andice good evening counselors um I don't know how long this is going to take us this evening I see U Police Department is represented as well as inspectional Services I didn't ask um
commissioner what item are you here for this evening I think it's certain INSP got it 4725 thank you commissioner uh Council vice president Fon are you here for any particular item I we'll get we'll get yours up right
away uh police department we we're here for all of the stuff in the packet and something else or we have 372 37-25 uh the clinician right gotcha okay
um as is our as is our custom we like to take our colleagues out of order so that they they've been putting the LA days and then we like to take our also our Municipal officials who also put in a long day so since everybody here fits one of those categories we're going to hit everybody here first so um yes if if
it's not then let me take an item out of order which I'm going to place table because I'm waiting for documentation that I'm going to pass on you that way we'll eliminate that item 5135 with with not objection which is my item you want there is a if there's no objection like there's a motion to table document 5125
is there second second motion made in second is no discussion with all things this evening there needs to be a roll call Vote Yes CIO yesina Santiago yes and chairman Mar
plan yes motion is tabled uh now we're going to take up the vice president's you're welcome the vice president's resolutions that she has I think I saw something today in an email um do we have hard copies of that by the way vice president you should
have hard copies but I said that confirm that she okay if anybody sees a hard copy of that do you have them do you have a hard C you get a hard copy could they be in our mailboxes did we check our mail did you check your
mailbox well I think they're pretty I think they're they're all identical is that right except for the name changed okay if you could just give us all one I don't think this is going be highly controversial I don't suspect we'll just take one of each and then we'll just go through them but
we'll make sure you get them all back you got them in oh you got them in there they're in the packet oh never mine then this is why you're serving on this committee thank you I guess we're set thank you okay so um
without without any further um okay okay if there's no objections we're going to take these all out of order first one we're going to take is document 57 2025 this is a resolution for Ryan is it Muer Mueller Muller Muller Muller yeah okay
councelor your your turn go ahead thank you U chair councelor the plants the first resolution um is for Ryan Muller he was recognized recently um by the Exchange Club at the 2024 paramedic of
the year and um I know typically in the past we have not um included this category but because I felt our EMT is within Lawrence General that's within our community that helps our community and Beyond particularly
for Ryan he did something very incredible um he he is one of the few that got trained for for a a new hold on I'm I'm reading it here sorry for a new system for blood
transfusion and Massachusetts the I'm sorry the L General location happens to be the only the second the second location I think there's only two we're the second location to have this new system and we are one of 200 in the
nation to have implemented this system within within our emergency um perceive protocols and Mr Müller happens to be the one that got trained and is uh is the expert of that and has been doing it very proudly um since and because of
that he was recognized as the exchange club's 2024 uh p uh EMT of the Year looking for a motion motion to send full counil with a favorable recommendation motion made by Council Dela res seconded by councelor Santiago
discussion see no discussion I'll ask the please call the role councelor Selena Rees yes coun Rosario yes yes yes the next document is document
5825 a resolution for officer lisis Santiago is a 2024 police officer of the year vice president fonte thank you and I'm sorry I misquoted the last one is blood um a minister whole blood in prehop hospital settings that's that's a
proper terminology for that but for um officer Louis Santiago he was one of the police officers also recognized U by the Exchange Club as 2024 police officer of the year he and another colleague within Lawrence Police that we will that's next on the list um they assisted North
Andover Police Department with a situation on raverly road that actually resulted in shots being fired and them having to assist an elderly uh man who was trapped I believe it was under a vehicle I believe it is and um for that
reason and and for them working together as Mutual Aid um officer Santiago was recognized as 2024 officer of the year looking for a motion motion to sen full cons a favorable recommendation is there a second second second by councelor Santiago
discussion see n I'll call I'll ask the clerk to please call the role councelor Rees yes C Rosario yes C Santiago yes chairman yes next document is 5925 a resolution
and here we go the name that's going to be hard to pronounce I got the first two officer I got Angelo I got it's the next word kagos kagos is that close he will respond to that if I saw him on the street with that yes good uh
2024 police officer of the year vice president fonte thank you chair um the same it was for the same situation as the previous officer he was the second officer that went with uh Louis Santiago that responded to the situation in North Andover motion of senat full council
with a favor of recommendation motion made by Council Del Rosario second by councelor Santiago discussion see none clerk please call the RO councelor Rees yes C Del Rosario yes Sago
yes yes next document is 6025 resolution Lieutenant is it John John Jimenez mhm okay coun uh he is the firefighter 2024 fire fighter of the Year vice president Fant thank you lieutenant John jenez is one of four uh 2024 fighter fighters of
the year that who was recognized by the Exchange Club this year um Lieutenant uh Jimenez was recognized for his efforts within not well not only his dedication as a fighter fighter but also as being one of
the founding members of the station eight program which is an initiative that these gentlemen uh the group started who serve station 8 to uh make fire prevention more educational and um
easier to digest for younger audience and uh more accessible so right now like for example they started a YouTube page that has and I checked this morning that has over 18,000 subscribers and over a million views and that's just on YouTube
not considering Facebook or or Instagram um and because of that he was named 20 uh 2024 fighter fighter of the Year great councelor motion to Senator F cons favorable recommendation second motion made by councel delar seconded by
councilor Santiago discussion see un cler please call the rle councelor Rees yes coun De Rosario yes coun Santio yesman yes motion passes the next one is
a resolution at 6125 for is it Jean John Jean Jean yep Jimenez 2024 firefighter of the Year vice president fonte thank you firefighter Jean Jimenez the the younger brother of Lieutenant jenez um also serves at Station 8 and is also one
of the founding members of the station 8 programming and um for the same reason I stated before and the uh the the resolution resolution language is also the same and this is why I'm presenting it tonight motion of Senator full cons a
favorable recommendation motion made by councel Del Rosario seconded by councelor Santiago discussion see none cler um clerk please call the role coun Rees yes coun Rosario yes councelor
Santiago yes and chairman Mar yes next document is 6225 resolution for IGN ignasio ignatio ignasio ignasio Rodriguez 2024 firefighter of the Year vice president vonte thank you same as the previous uh fighter fighter
Rodriguez is also a dedicated member of our fire department and also one of the founding members of the the educational program motion to sen full cons favorable recommendation second motion made by Council delar seconded by Council of Santiago discussion see no discussion clerk
please call the role counil Rees yes coun De Rosario yes celor Santiago yes chairman yes uh the last one is 6325 resolution for Felix Fus 2024 firefighter of the Year vice president font thank you and the same
explanation for Felix Frias he's the fourth member of Station 8 motion to Senator F cons a favorable recommendation motion made by Council delar second by Vice um I going to call you vice president Santiago but I'm not so Council Santiago uh discussion I just want to say one quick thing I want to
say to the very end thank you very much vice president Infante for um for taking the time to recognize uh the the First Responders that receiv received the these awards at the Exchange Club I think it's important that we acknowledge them here before the city council in a
more public way and so I I I want to thank each we will say more at the full Council but I just want to recognize them for all that they have done and for you for your good work and and bringing this to our attention so thank you very much thank you um see no further
discussion clerk please call the RO C counc Rosario yes councel Santiago yes and chairman yes motion carries thank you so much councelor are you all SEC vice president sweet all right we are we
are going to go in order so there's no fighting um because I have my money on Mr blanchetta there is a fight by the way um 4725 is proposed ordinance for inspections and related fees uh Building Commissioner Blanchette
welcome good evening councilors I'm Peter Blanchett 45 Greenfield street I'm here in the uh in my capacity as Building Commissioner for the City of Lawrence council is what I have here is just it's basically a little bit of a housekeeping issue um for many years the
city conducts we call them 110 inspections because it's named after the chapter in the m building code uh chapter 110 it's a requirement for certain amount of uh certain types of inspections to be done on either a
yearly basis a by yearly basis or a fiveyear basis however what we have been doing in the city for many many years since I've been here is we use this 110 inspection for all commercial spaces um we don't want to stop doing
that we want to continue uh so when someone moves in a new business moves in we would require them to have an inspection by us for a commercial space and uh they would renew that every five years we go in and we make sure it's safe Fire Systems Etc um
we don't have an ordinance for the commercial space we just have it for um the 110 inspections is listed in the in the uh state code and it's basically for U alcoholic beverage places nursing
homes um group homes um uh Child Care Centers education um those types of detox uh facilities those types of things what the state was very um concerned with however we do we do just like we do uh
when uh someone rents a uh um uh a residence we require an occupancy permit we look at this inspection that we do on the commercial spaces as basically a um occupancy uh permit it was never a it
was never um ordinance counselor and as I said we've been doing it for many many years over 20 years um I noticed it wasn't in the ordinance I said you know I think we should put it in the ordinance and that's what I'm asking the council to do sir my question to you is
we've been doing this for some time clearly we've had the authority because it's under state law for for certain on the state law doesn't cite that I uh would go into like an office building and inspect that
every five years however we do do that I I would hate to say that we're doing that without authorization is that what you right I think somewhere buried somewhere counselor there might be an authorization okay but if there isn't we've been doing it and now we need to codify it we would like to clarify it in
the ordinance okay uh what's the fees on those it right now it's $10000 that's another issue I'll be coming very shortly with for fees shouldn't that be part of this ordinance it will be uh so we' like to keep it at $100 at this time we haven't
done our new schedule um and you would want to actually we should we're going to go up $25 on the uh 110 inspection so we like to keep this equal this might be the time to put that in as
125 if we're looking some my recommendation is this we're looking to create an ordinance in any ordinance that we have we we talk about what the ordinance the purposes we talk about what what it is that um how we're going to enforce the ordinance and part of the
enforcement mechanism of course is a fine and so that would be part of the ordinance so I think to make this complete you would want to have a fine associated with this ordinance I don't know so is that something you're willing to do now do you want us to table that and so you can get that other
information where are you on this well thank you um thank you chair I would um yeah I think that would be this would be the time to do that why why waste going back and forth also with the paperwork for the city
clerk I just um I didn't think of that so when don't we do this um I don't this can wait two weeks I'm thinking I um I'm thinking is there urgency we need get this done tonight or can we wait till the next ordinance committee meeting to get this thing I think it would be good
to wait and let me do that if you could table that I would appreciate that sounds fair and I guess the other thing we would do as well is is um have you run this by the City Attorney at all um I I yeah I did I did okay it's been sitting on my desk I haven't
brought it down I okay so we would we would want to get that to the City attorney to see what the draft language would look I see that there's already a boilerplate language that's in here already mhm so that's I think a
good start so while you're buying time for the two weeks see if we can get something from the city attorney as well to include not only the language so that we can send it up to the full Council because we're going to need to order a public hearing on these things and the nice thing about combining both of them is that we'll only have one public
hearing not two so we're going to save we're going to that's a great recommendation um also for you have information and you might want to know note down this comes under um um section 8.04 130 which is the inspectional
services fees and you can further clarify what I'm trying to tap into okay uh what's the what's the ordinance again I can look it up a 8 point what sure it's 8.04 y130
gotcha okay and one last question you you you use this uh you use this colloquial 110 that's the chapter so this is just so I'm clear you're looking to expand right now you're looking to expand this to business like like
offices be in addition to the like other businesses that sell things like restaurants or manufacturing or right well I'm you see I'm a little confused I'm just help me yeah there's there's a certain list which I'll include with my package that we are required by bass
building code okay however we do go into uh businesses that are not on that list we go into retail most retail it's not required for a 110 unless it's serving food or alcohol um so we we like to get into the
real retail uh businesses so why don't we do this unless councilors have a a fundamental question now I suspect that we can I'm going to ask that we table it now come back in two weeks we have a more vigorous discussion there maybe answer more questions that would come up
because of the new information and we can discuss it then fine so I'm looking for Mo look is there any before I ask for a motion to table anybody want to comment on this before we make a motion then I'm looking for a motion motion to table
47 motion to table Council Santiago is there a second second second by Council Del Rosario no discussion so clerk please call the role Rees yes yes yes yes motion carries thank you
commission thank you for your assistance Mr chair you're welcome have a good night all right police um we got a which which I I know I know the two guys in the back I know why they're here they got a whole packet of stuff which
which what is it 20 37 there's only one item on that so if that's is that all right other officers if there's no if there's no objection he's a captain well there you go my dad was in the military there was
an old expression rhip you know what that stands for rank hath its privileges RHP so Captain I guess you're up so uh if there's no objections 3725 why don't you start off uh good evening
uh so basically um uh director Shephard is here wants to uh present um some of the uh information relative to uh the doj's crisis intervention team Grant that we obtained back in uh 2021 um perhaps it's best if she gives
you a little bit of background as far as the grant or you know because that raises questions just why we're looking at it four years later but um you know she um she can explain that and then I'll explain to you if if it's okay with you uh chair um you know what what what the need for it is and why why are we
here it's okay good evening City councils Rosa sheeper director of support services at Lawrence Police Department um the lawence police department had appli for this grant back in 2020 and Reed an approval in
2021 um we've been working on this for quite some time and this grant was basically for the crisis intervention team that we are we need to form at the Lawrence Police Department um is for $240,000 and it is for two for one
full-time clinician and one part-time clinician for about two years this Grant and it is basically uh the clinici is going to be embedded in the police department I I was here when this was first discussed I think chief FAS was
here talking about why this was so important and he was talking about mental illness and how come we've gotten you know when we have police calls and oftentimes we need people with certain skill sets that can kind of to calm down certain circumstance you may not need
guns blazing but you need somebody to listen and be able to interact and to to bring the things down I'm I'm just surprised that uh I'm going to put you on the tough spot here what happened I mean it's been three four years what happened um to be
completely transparent if we have a lot of changes this was we are going through the third HR person um and he's seeing a lot of changes so every time I brought it up to be able to um they had the discussion to open the position and bring it down to the city attorney of
course then we had another person I out one more time we have another HR person I one more time so I brought this to three HR person in the four one that we have right now was the one who was able to push it to be able to get it approved and uh and and bring it to the uh to the
ordinance great I just have one fun thank you my my question is for the captain since apparently he's he's the he's the boots on the ground on this initiative so in the last four years when we needed someone with the skill set of a clinician how do we do so uh
right now it when we started years ago as you do recall and and just to give a little bit of background for those who that perhaps don't know or maybe even forgot it's been so long um the uh CIT which is Crisis Intervention team is a uh Team of uh clinicians mental health
clinicians and like um and they work uh closely with police departments this began many years ago uh when they uh realized that approximately 56% of the State uh inmates uh suffered from some sort of mental illness um that number
was 46% for federal inmates um they wanted to do what what's called a uh a diversion program from the criminal justice system and to try a different approach something that's going to place these particular individuals who need uh this uh assistance and and and uh more
on a track for recovery and the like there have been studies and uh back in Memphis Memphis Tennessee also in uh Phoenix Arizona Los Angeles I think that now um and I don't know today at least as of a year and a half go there are
over 400 to 600 uh police departments that utilize the CIT model many of them very large departments they have seen a um Stark difference as far as uh calls for service use of force injuries to officers and uh police involved
shootings of uh people that are suffering from mental illness which constitute about 25% of the Fatal shootings uh Nationwide with that said and with the recognition that um we have a uh a very uh vulnerable population uh that requires a different approach to
law enforcement than us coming in there and just you know removing or uh individuals from their homes and the like and we needed another approach what we began years ago um Chief vast sent me to Phoenix Arizona and I did a very extensive training there with the
national CIT program and I became a CIT uh certified coordinator um thereafter we send several other uh officials to this particular training and we started with What's called the Mental Health First Aid course which uh certified
about 90% of our department then uh you know with regards to recognition of mental health uh involved you know U situations um and recognition of symptoms plus what questions to ask and deescalation techniques and the like um
yeah that that did fall through there have been uh several changes in regards to personnel uh of all of all uh uh organizations but um at the end of the day um we try to implement that in Lawrence Police
Department what has happened so far is basically our officers will have to take these uh these calls for service that are related to mental health uh crises um and unfortunately we do what we can with them we are kind of stuck back to
the only options that are available to us which is to you know make get AR rest when necessary as far as to you know resolve the situation at then but there's no followup and what we see is this rotating cycle of we have several costs for service for the same Homes at
times the same individuals some of these individuals just are not getting the right medication and or are not getting the right direction and attention from uh their mental health uh clinicians doctors and the like what we'd like to do with this particular program whereas
we've have two years of of of funding for this particular program for one and a half uh clinicians um is to get it off the ground and begin with one of the introductory models because they're three separate models eventually what we' like to do is move away to that into what they call the Cahoots model where
there's no police officer uh intervention with regards to these particular calls and is going to be responses from Criminal Health uh I mean uh from uh professionals um and uh you know clinical workers and the like that frees
up the police department to focus on crime that frees us up to take calls for service that are crime related as opposed to uh more clinical uh related calls let me interrupt and I'm going to ask my colleagues if they have questions but you mentioned funding are are these
Grant funds are we going to be funding this through our local through our own budget right now we are we are uh approved in a grant fund for $240,000 um that constitutes and and correct me if I'm wrong here that
constitutes uh you know 1.5 position $80,000 for the full-time uh clinician um which is going to be working with us embedded with us and and $40,000 per year uh for the uh part-time clinician for a total of $150,000 uh over the course of two years
that's the 240,000 grant fund so is that funding is that Federal funding is that where where's the money coming from this it is federal F sorry it is federal funding from the Department of Justice all right this is my time to say Department of Justice so I I happen we
all read the newspapers we all know what's going on around the world and around our country with a change of administration so I was reading the other day from the attorney general Bondi uh who is the new Department of Justice Chief um and she mentioned that uh for those cities who are either trust
Sanctuary cities uh that the burns money for example will not be given to those communities we are a we know what we are a a trust TR City a trust act City and so I would suspect that the the burns money and perhaps any other doj monies
are potentially in Jeopardy now my concern I just it's time for us to at least talk about this because I don't know where this is going so there's one thing to say it from her perch another thing for it to act but there's a lot of stuff going on right we can all admit to that so the question is if we start on
this will we have the polit will we be able to if if M if the money from the feds is withdrawn are we going to be able to sustain this cost beyond the grant we will have for the discussion
with um the um the the administrative and financial for the the City of Lawrence and the chief of the police department of course with the major to be able to sustain this uh this program um even if if we uh we uh we utilize all the funds so and that's going to be a
budget question and there's there's competing dollars right I mean Police Department somebody wants this program versus that program so there's comp competition and I I I mean I'm not the smartest guy in the world but I can look into the tea leaves here and look and I know that there's going to be some
there's potential some shortage for our for the Commonwealth on monies and that's hap that's going to be happening soon and we need to keep our eyes open what are we doing as a city to prepare should that happen and that's not a crazy possibility we're going to be okay
this fiscal year but it's a n this fiscal year that we should start to be a little concerned about are we going to be able to afford the things if we're relyant on federal funds that's that's the kind of the question so um as you take this back to your budget meetings
uh just be cognizant of that and please ask that question when you are I know you're working on the budget now just be cognizant of that be aware of that and have that conversation what are we going to do in FY 26 are we going to if money is if money is stops from for whatever
reason or what are we going to do are we going to be able to it just needs to have that kind of conversation and I I don't have the answer frankly I only have this the question and the alarm and just how are we're going to deal with it that's it counselors questions comments
motions yes I have a question Council Santiago um I W to ask about the data how frequently do you receive about those call and usually the from those people need clinici how
frequently do you receive those call that would be a question for thank you for the question the the calls right now we cannot distinguish we don't have right now a data driven uh uh platform where we can uh distinguish which ones of those are related I could
tell you from raw knowledge of the calls for service that I've seen that our officers see um they they constitute a a good a good a good number of of our calls uh one one shape or another right now we just we just can't document it um
we don't have the mechanism by which to document it so that we can give raw numbers to say 40% or whatever the case may be I would say it's it's pretty consistent with the national average um anywhere from 40% and above um and that's only because of what we know and
what we learn from these calls for service when when when when we structured this particular program we do have a processes by which we have people actually documenting which ones of these are are related to cost for service and that is good for us basically gather
this data share data with the state with the doj of course uh which opens up more window for funding um and uh but I guess the short answer to it is we're not keeping track of it right now we we just don't have the program in place right now to to keep we we were doing it and
and began that way but again once the changes started to happen and things started to happen we just it just kind of froze you is that sure go ahead sorry and can you mention a some a
strategy to make to do the following for the clinician calls for the program yes we have as as I've indicated there several models that are used U Nationwide so what we'd like to do is begin and this is why that 2-year period
is really important for us because we'd like to begin with what's called a response model so what happens is um we get a call for service uh which we get very often my son is is trashing the place he's off his medication blah blah blah we know now what the approach is
going to be in that regard and what we do is the police officers go over there and they basically uh secure the situation and after that we'll have a licensed independent clinical social social worker which is what we're looking to hire off of this grant money
um respond to the scene if necessary Andor conduct followup after uh the uh the scene has been uh calmed down and uh that's that's the introduction that's how we start to get the information that's how we start to work out the Kinks in the program and start to really
tailor it to what our community needs yes to to Broken the circle yes yes yes and to get a good understanding a lay of the land and get an understanding of what it is that we need and and from there you know uh the model develops into an embedded model where we can have
CIT certified officers and clinicians kind of working together as a team where they're just dedicated toward that so whenever there's a mental health call like the one I just gave you an example my son is trashing and he's off his medication or he suffers from XY or Z
then they respond you know together um and then eventually what we'd like to do is and and I didn't invent this AC by the way guys the Cahoots model and that is just and that's just a separate and distinct uh uh set of of clinicians and
professionals and they handle all these all the calls up to including what they wanted to do before which was an 811 line where as opposed to calling the police uh when something like that is happening they would call 811 and uh that would immediately be uh sent out to
one of the cahoot model teams local or Regional whatever the case may be but um yeah another question that I have is about this is the Immigrant City and this money is for all Resident or certain residents this this is for all
our residents this is for our community um what we need here for our our residents here we can certainly work uh uh you know with other agencies like methan has their own version of it and we have worked together um in in some aspects or we did then um and I
anticipate and I want to build more of that sort of uh Coalition with other communities but with respect to our technicians it is our community I'm always focus on us first and then what we can do for others we will but first this is for us all of us thank you
you're welcome good if there's no further questions if there's going to be a motion to send it up it be to order a public hearing so I'm looking for a motion motion to send the item 37 37 3725 to send for
public participation to order public hearing order of public hearing motions been made is there a second second seconded by councelor Del Rosario discussion see no discussion on the motion to send to the PO council with P with a for order of public hearing I'll
ask the clerk to please call the role it's a it's a motion with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing is that right yeah yes okay thank you coun Rees yes C De Rosario yes c s yes chairman yes motion
carries thank you Captain appreciate it very much have a great night good night uh hold on that was what number was that 34 372 37 there is there it is there it is there it is uh for a public hearing all
right at this point the rest of the shows with the police department the other part of the police department Sergeant um we have a packet of your references I would like just to go in in that order unless
there's a reason why we shouldn't whatever you order you want to go okay Council we all have this packet in our books for for our convenience let's just go in order that it's in there that we don't have to flip pages around um welcome and protective her
it's good to see you I haven't seen you in a while hope you're doing well my goodness it's been a long time your sight for sore eyes it's good to see you thank you um just and to for the two officers kagos and Santiago there was an active shooter in the house in north andova and when they called there was a
guy trapped on the lawn the guy came out of the house and they risked their own lives to get that guy out of danger and one of them threw him over his shoulder and carried him across the street yeah was it was quite a performance bravery so they could have been shot right there my
goodness uh listen you guys uh since you said this you at any moment you guys are going to be called to do something like that you never know what the day when you wake up in the morning what the day is going to consist of so thank you for and it sounds so trite right but really thank you for your service thank you for putting on the uniform and serving us
appreciate it all right so with that and I appreciate that background is the first document is 3225 uh that's handicap parking at 33 Bruce Street 3225 3225 and that one is uh y a fa
recommendation okay for a motion motion to s full counil favorable recommendation to order a public motion made by Council Del RAR seconded by Council Santiago discussion see discussion I'll ask the
clerk to call the role thank you councilor Rees yes counil De Rosario yes councelor Santiago yes councelor Mark Le yes motion carries next document is the next one 3325 handicap parking 19 Exchange
Street a favorable recommendation to of public hearing okay look favorable recommendation to public hearing second motion made by Council Del rosar second by Council Santiago discussion see now I'll call the I'll ask keep saying that I ask the clerk to
please call the role councel Rees yes councel De Rosario yes yes chairman yes next document is 1725 this is handicap parking at 327 Prospect
Street favorable recommendation again looking for a motion motion of C full cons recommendations hearing second motion made by Council delar second by Council Santiago disc discussion see n clerk please call the rule C
Rees yes CIO yes sanago yes yes next document is 57124 that's a no overnight tractor trailer parking on South
Broadway all right let's talk about this Council in my research um I spoke to someone from community policing and there's already a city ordinance regarding tractor trailer parking any vehicle over 10,000 lb or could be a tractor trailer could be a school bus
any any type of vehicle over 10,000 pounds is already prohibited in the city for no parking so there already is one in place so the recommendation here would be to withdraw this because we already have an ordinance this is redundant I'm I would yes I would assume
so if that's what they were talking about about a they didn't specify a vehicle they said tractor trailer parking but any vehicle over 10,000 lb and that was put on by the Vice President fonte if she was here we could ask her but let's uh me just look at our packet and see if there's any more
information on that got it all right so uh there is no background information from councelor Infante on this so I don't have I don't there's no resolution or anything so all I have is a memo okay so you got something yeah so I think what what I'm
hearing is that uh I'm just going to reiterate what I what I'm hearing from the full Council which is that they are I don't think councils have an issue if there's an issue they put on it's been favorably recommend what they do if you could imagine this have an issue with is
if you come with a unfavorable or in this particular case this is probably less confrontational because there's already an ordinance on it so um they're looking to have a conversation with the police department I recommended that the phone works two ways uh give the police
police officer a call um see if there's an opportunity to call any one of you guys up and and just say I want to talk to you about this thing that you're looking at have you considered this or whatever and have the conversation so uh we're going to send this up fantastic