At least I'm not sing Hold up my man. Another another I appreciate it. When the business apply for a legal license, they they going in front of the sounding board first
and they send a list for your meeting. They have to send a list for our meeting because it's by the rules and regulations. Whatever they fussy today. as soon
I missed the baby stage. Used to be four pages 14 pages now and we're going to do He always looks good. He always looks good. No, he always looks good.
I know. Yeah, he's The first item, she has an event on the pen. You have a question? No. Okay. Yeah,
that's fine. Okay. No, I think we're missing. Okay, I think we're ready. We need two more people. And then the last item is going to be the one that I told you. Yeah.
Which one? The last um soil cafe. Okay. The first item she was here today at the office and now we'll start and then
we'll start with you. The meeting is going to be quick. How about you? What do you do today? I'm sorry. Yeah. I'll be there one day. The picture dark, right? Yeah.
That's weird. Okay, let me turn him. We're going to stop. He's ready. Yeah. Thank you. Hello everybody. Please stands for the pledgece
to the flag of the United States of America and the indivisible and justice for all. Welcome to the Lawrence Licensing Board. Could we please go through roll call? Thank you.
Welcome everyone. here are present at the Lawrence Licensing Board meeting on August 6, 5:30 p.m. Commissioner Mike Lair here. Commissioner Morales here.
And the officials, Angel Lopez and Elvis Friers here. Thank you. Here. Meeting start. Good evening. I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes for July 23rd. I'll second that.
Commissioner Morales made a motion to approve the minutes for July 23rd. Second by Commissioner Leair. Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner, how do you vote? Yes. Minutes approved. Thank you very much. We don't have old business or tabled
matters. for new business. The first item on the agenda, um, we have an application for a one one day wine and malt license. Is Jenny Molina available? She's here. Okay, we'll move this item towards the end, then come back to it. The next item
on the agenda, we have Ato Dominicano, who's applying for one day wine and malt license. Hello. Hello. Um, state your name for the record, please, and um, tell us through a little
bit about um, this application. What's the event for? Great. My name is Johansson Martinez and today we uh what what ATO is looking for is trying to stand the license for selling these products
in in order to complete the schedule that they have for the uh Bohemian sunset. that is something that that is an event that is placed uh annually during the summer is supposed to be 12
uh 12 events 12 nights during the Thursdays and because of the the weather because of the some festivities that uh pushed us to postpone the the activities. Okay. We're trying to stand to look for
the those to look the permission to look the license for those nights three days that we we still have to to get the license for. Great. Thank you. We are very well uh familiarized with this event. I don't have questions right now. Commissioner
Leard, I have no questions. Thank you, Officer Lopez. So, as far as the PD, I know in the past speaking with Lieutenant Oliver, he's recommended maybe securing the area given where the location and hiring a uh police detail, too.
Okay, great. Thank you. Okay. Um, one second, Lieutenant Frizz. I have no questions. Okay. Um, go ahead. Okay. um here in in in in this events on the term
um talking about the security we always have um people that is that is coming in the quality of the I don't know the word capen oh yeah the capian they they come to provide security for the event and the community
the community itself that is participating in the events is always open eye checking everything that is happening and looking for the rounds. And this seems this is a place that is looking for to
push the culture cultural a cultural event and lifting up our community. Everybody that is assistant to the event is looking up to leave a good a good imagine of the city of the
um organization and of course a good look about the how clean the city is, how secure the city is, how good the people of Lawrence actually is because we have a lot of people that comes from other other cities. We I I myself uh
personally talked to people that came from another states because they heard about this on the radio or they hear about somebody that embedded from Rhode Island, from New Hampshire. Yeah. of course Boston, city of Boston
and cities uh nearby cities and everybody that is coming there is pretty aware of that and is trying to keep a a a good eye on the security and on the good standing of the community.
Thank you. Officer Lopez, you me you mentioned a police detail. Have they had one there? It was recommended they do this event annually. My understanding so speaking with Lieutenant Oliver is what he recommended in the past also and also the some fencing in the area because of my understanding where this location is
is at the corner of Union and Canal Street literally and it's an open area. Okay. Okay. Those were the recommendations. Okay. Um in terms of um but in terms of the comm in terms of the police department's like community
liaison folks are they they've been familiarized with the with like the event and it seems like it's we that we wouldn't have an issues extending this summer and hopefully maybe for next year we have a different type of plan.
That is correct. That's okay. That's correct. Okay. Great. because I do know I know his concern because it is becoming more popular and like it like it's beautiful but also if I think for next year and I'm speaking out of term at this point but I think
for next year um making sure we have the dates earlier so that you guys plan for it to be a much bigger thing because people are coming from other places just for this event which is a very good thing. Um, but maybe even moving it to the back is
might be better because it's going into the street. I know exactly what they're talking about. Yeah, all the the board and and all we all the volunteers are pretty aware of that of of this and actually right now we were talking about this issue to prepare in in ahead for the next year.
Great. Thank you for extending the recommendation as well. Anyway, um, Commissioner Leard, no question, but I'll make a motion we can approve it. I'll second the motion. Commissioner Lair made a motion to approve a 4 days alcohol license for Ateno Dominicano 15
Union Street. Second by Commissioner Morales. Commissioner Lair, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? Yes. Motion pass. You can come on Friday between 8:30 and 11 to pick up the the permit
license. Okay. All right. Thank you so much for this opportunity. Thank you so much. Remember, remember City Hall closes at 1:30, so you better come here to pick it up. Okay. Okay. Thank you so much. Have a great night. You too. Yes.
Thank you for your service. Yes. Thank you. Yes. Um, thank you. So, next year we definitely should figure out how to turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. and
Officer Lopez, right? Sergeant Lopez, I'm sorry. You see, I knew I was messing that up. I know. I'm learning still. I'm going to get to a point where I will get this. Um,
yeah, you guys, you wouldn't know that for work I go into prisons like, Yeah. Yeah. I work with you guys all the time, but I can't I I can't seem to get that right. Um, okay. The next item on the agenda, we
have um Delhi Moore uh who's applying for one day wine on August 9, 10, 16, 17, 3. Okay. Um, so I just told her, you know, we haven't had an issue with this location
in the past and approving, but we we are seeing that it is for every weekend this month. Okay, go ahead, Mike. I have some questions and uh why every weekend? Yeah.
Yeah. She's saying that she's seeing a difference versus when she is serving without alcohol or with alcohol. And so when she has her karaoke nights, she's just more um successful those days than when she doesn't.
I understand that. But we just had the zoning board come in here tonight. And the zoning board, you have to approve go through the um zoning board to approve a license there all the time. And you're only allowed nine a year. And you already had three of them, I think, this year. Mhm.
And right now this would be 36. This would be over the nine. Mhm. You can't do it like that every weekend. Soon illegal, alcohol, etc. Masterch. We're we're at capacity with the dates here.
Um she says, "Do I have any other options?" Then there's a couple options you can do. First of all, the zoning board is concerned that we're giving out licenses to your
restaurant that it stays a restaurant. doesn't turn out to be a nightclub later on with dancing and everything else. And that's their problem. And their problem is coming back to us. You can apply for a full liquor license if you go through the zoning board and
get them approval to come back. You can have a full liquor license, but you're going to be regulated to where you can only for serving food and uh no dancing or anything like that. So, that was a lot. Um so
thank you for Okay, go ahead. You got too many dates here. That's right off the bat. They say one, two, three, four, five. One of them would not count and then she
would have no more for the rest of the year. Okay. I just told her I know she probably wants to have something for Christmas or like you know So she's saying could she do the following Sunday
Labor Day week? No. Oh, the 10th. So she's asking if she can get the 10th. The 10th she wants. Uhhuh. Only the 10th. Hello. I know. I know you're thinking about that. So, the 10th.
Okay. So, okay, perfect. Okay. So, just what what is the time? 7. It's a Sunday though. Can we be open till 2 on a Sunday? 7 to 1 1 a.m.
1 a.m. Mhm. See 7 to1 one. You might be better off going to zoning and applying for a talking to them to try to get a full liquor license at your
place. Mike, can I say something? Sure. Yeah. The problem that location has is a it is a revolving kitchen. The other people other people use that business for cook and bring the gar carrying to
other locations. That's the situation. Also, they have an community college across the street. It's a it should be 5 500 square feet the distance. No,
it is 500 for church, daycare, and school. That was ruled out unconstitutional. They did. I I didn't get that was ruled unconstitutional a long time ago. Still in the books, but they can do it now. They can do it now. Okay. We need We need We need the
paperwork because we had to sh to send to everybody else. Go to St. Pat's Church, the Chinese restaurant across the street. I know. Right. Juggling and go to Union Street. Go to Union Street down here. Right.
There's another church there. Right after the church is another Spanish restaurant with a liquor license. No, restaurant is fine. It should be daycare, school or church. The restaurant any and the And
she runs a restaurant. She runs a restaurant. Say that again. Yeah, but it's the location. The location 500 ft from the the church and the school. Can I jump in and go ahead? So, my understanding and I know what
this is. This revolving kitchen is like a uh a contract for any businesses that's upbringing to the city. So, a lot of these businesses own food trucks and they move to this revolving kitchen. So, it's a contract. I don't know if you know the Nestics. So, I really to help them grow and get this business started
from that. They're able to save enough funds to open an actual location. So technically they don't own even the location whatsoever. It's just a contract that they have. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She doesn't It's not contract. It's a contract. Yeah.
When your contract expires. Yeah. She doesn't have a date yet. It's like when she's ready to open up in another space. Yeah. Yeah. There's people that had been there for a couple years and then they go Mhm.
Okay. We make a motion. I make a motion we give approve it for the 10th. Okay. Um did I go down the line? Lieutenant Prius. Okay. Yeah. I don't have any questions. Yeah. Okay. Um No further questions.
Thank you. Um, I'll second the motion. Commissioner Le made a motion to approve one day alcohol license for Delhi Mo LLC uh 420 common street. Is that going to be to Sunday the 10th? Second by
Commissioner Morales. Commissioner Le, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? Yes. Motion pass. You can you can come to pick up the license on Friday. Mhm. Okay. Before 1:30.
Okay. Okay. Good luck. Okay. LLC. Hello. Hello. Hello. Uh, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. My name is Angel Haime. I recently
opened a new business. It's a small business, retail use cars. Um, I just got my business certificate and I'm here to know everything about the
rules, the the rule city and the next step of my business. Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you. Um, Commissioner Leard, so can I add something? Yes. So, uh, I've been working two years in
Stomingo Motors. Uhhuh. So now God gave me the opportunity to apply for the dealer license. Yeah. So that's why I'm here. I want to take advantage of the opportunity and work from now on my own. Yeah.
Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Um I'm glad we Okay. Oh, I I see where you are. Um go ahead. Is this the first or the second? Is it the first? So there's two two
dealers on that same the second water Broadway. Uhhuh. You water Broadway. Yeah. That's the first one, right? No. The other one is fail motors. So he's in the back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like
he's the second one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The second one. Mhm. The first one is the detailing in this. Yeah. The Yeah. Uh, Commissioner Leer, go ahead.
You're buying the place, right? I'm buying the the Yeah, the the business, please. Okay. Not the property, the business. No, just the business. I understand that. And it's going to be kept clean the lot, right? Yeah. Okay. And before we even if we approve
the license for you, you have to see him, get a copy of the rules and regulations for used car dealers. Okay. Inspection. It's not an inspection. It has been I want to do everything correctly. That's why, you know, thank you for the
recommendation. Of course. Thank you. Um, go ahead. Okay, Sergeant Lopez, I have nothing. Okay, Lieutenant Frizz, I've actually met with him a couple times. Um, it seems like he's trying to
do the right thing. needs might need a little bit of guidance on the rules and regs, but uh as far as the location, it seemed clean. He seemed to be getting everything in order, so Okay, great. I have no problems. Okay, great. Great. Um, we wish you luck
and we'll make a motion to approve this license. I'll second that. Commissioner Morales made a motion to approve Fearless Auto LC LLC. Uh T Broadway, second by Commissioner Leair.
Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Leer, how do you vote? Yes. Motion pass. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay. You can pass by on Friday to pick up the license. The same the same hour from 8 to It's going to be pending until the they
finish the the inspection, but you can come by to the office on Friday. Okay. Bless you. Thank you. Tomorrow they close early. No Friday. Uhhuh. Thank you. Okay. Okay.
I already think it's very clear in my head. I know. Okay. Um the next item we have uh Soil Cafe Manbo. Yeah. Enterprise. They're not. Are they here? Mano Mivo Enterprise LLC.
Okay. I'll make a motion to table this for our next meeting which is taking place on August 20th. I'll second that. Um I have something before to approve that. Okay. They going to get a meeting with the
owner of that location used to be Casab. Mhm. So, and then we had to ask for a letter saying that she's not going to be there anymore because the commission couldn't approve a license if the other license is in
place there. The license is up to December 31st. So, we need that letter before to approve this business. So, if you want to table for the next meeting, it's okay, but it's going to take more time. Okay. Um,
we can leave it on the table for 20th and it's not ready. We'll just bring it to the next one after. Okay. Mike, make the motion. Yeah. Oh, Anna made the motion. Anna, who did? Okay. Commissioner Moral made a motion to table Manzivo Enterprise DVA Soil Cafe.
Second by Commissioner Leair. Commissioner Moral, how do you vote? Yes. Commissioner Leer, do you vote? Yes. Okay. Motion passed to table Mbo Enterprise. Thank you very much. Okay. The other representing for independent
Okay. Um Okay. Now we are returning to the first item on the agenda. Um is Jenny Molina here? Okay. Yes, she is. Um great.
Good evening. How are you? Good. Um so can you tell me a little bit about your event for August 10th? Yes, I'm actually part of the um uh group committee and I actually came here to try to explain you know because she's
cannot explain a little bit in English but I do. Yeah. So, my name is Paula. Um, I'm doing this event with her uh today um August the event is going to be in August 10 from 2 to 6 p.m. And the reason why we doing this is because we had um in every other country
we do the flat you know we we do the um the flat event for um each country and this day specifically is our flat uh event. So um this time I want I would like to have I know as much as community
our culture possible. Um that's the reason why we create that uh event. So great. It will be not much you know going on. It's just about about cultures. It's about people get together you know and celebrate that.
That's great. Thank you. Um we have so we do have a few concerns about the location. Um, in the past we have approved this event. Um, and you guys have had it on like at a licensed um, location. I think you guys have had it
in the PÑA Hall before um, and maybe another location. The issue with this in particular is that it's not a space that is licensed to to throw events like this. So, I'll pass it to Commissioner Leard um, just to give you more of of
why this is concerning to us. Go ahead, Commissioner Leard. Um, this is not going to be inside, right? Yes. Inside or out? Um, we have in the event we have a soccer player and we have volley play.
So, food is going to be inside, you know, things most of the part is going to be inside. But like um our evening is open, you know, for people to come and play and also people to enjoy our food inside of the building.
See, my problem has never been inspected by the fire department to for to have a party like this, okay, that I've known of. It hasn't been inspected by the police department to do this. Uh we don't know the total occupancy of the uh
uh that building. Okay. We don't know if they're going to have security We don't know if you have video recording which comes under master uh uh law licensing laws. And if you're inside, do you have a sprinkler system inside? We have to know all these things. And do you have a
business permit? These are the things that are required. And we don't see that here. Also, you know, you're talking about selling beers and that's a that's a neighborhood and I don't think they're going to be too happy with the name music and
everything else going on over there. Let's see. Department. local. being and they have insurance. Okay. So, they say that they have liability insurance. Yes, we do have life insurance for that.
We do have um all the permits that we need. Okay. We also have Okay. Capasap. Capanes. Yeah. The security is the community security.
We do have private security. We do we we work in this so many times. I mean so so much weeks just to get everything set just try not to got you know a lot of issues around and we do coordinate. We do have meetings with the mayor too. So
um that's why we're here. Yeah. Also, you know, I haven't been at the place, but the police department has been there before when you had an after hours party there or going into 2 or 3:00 in the morning. I don't have an answer for that because
I'm I never been there on those parties. So that's the reason why we are doing earlier, you know, it's it's it's a it's a a family event. It's 12:30 a.m. and and it will be done at 6:00, less sooner
to 5:00. Um, yeah. Um, Sergeant Fus, I have no question. Sergeant Lopez, sorry. I'm sorry. Sergeant Lopez, I'll reiterate and I spoke with Captain Solo who's been on the board prior also. Our biggest concern is issuing a permit
or license for a day for a residential area which would set a precedence for everyone in the city. Again, we get we get over 100 calls a night for noise ordinances and I've responded personally myself to that this location last weekend for noise complaints and that's the biggest concern where it's in
resident area and was to the president's down the road for anyone having after our party whatever the case may be. Thank you. Um, resto. And yeah,
building Okay. Um, he's explaining that in the past they've tried to do a space there and that it hasn't been approved before. So, they're just trying to let them know before they come to the meeting. Can I ask something?
We can block the the application and say no, we're not going to issue license there. Yeah, go ahead. Um, is any way that we can reinforce the police? Um, to be in that area, you know, I mean, I don't I don't I don't see any,
you know, reason why we can not have that even going on since it's our, you know, we wanted we wanted to get our community and culture in place. Yes. Um I do I do understand you know all the situations that's played has been done. I live in Manchester. I don't live here.
So I wanted it to do this because this is my first time doing the event and um it's something that um right now it's getting me all attentions about you know that situation that particular um place has it. But if we can get involved
the police, you know, doing routine times, I think it should be okay with me. I'm pretty much I'm gonna be in the floor, you know, all the time, you know, because I know I've been coordinated a lot of meet a lot of um events, you know, I I I work for Spanish with for so
many years. And I do work for my culture, you know, doing uh um a lot of events. Yeah. So if we can get the help, you know, no all the time, but I just do random, you know, police in the area, it should be good for me. I mean, okay. Um,
that's what I I think I picked that day because it's Sunday, it's earlier. Uh, and it's everybody go to war Monday. So if as earliest that I can is the soonest that we can finish it. Commissioner Leard, you know, it's nice that you want the
police there, but the police are busy doing other things. Correct. They cannot be guaranteed they're going to be parked in front of that place. Correct. If a shooting happens or a fight breaks out, they got other places to do accidents and everything else. They can't just be in that area. I think
there's about six or seven cruisers out there on a normal day and you want to put two of them over there. That doesn't work. The rest of the city is not protected. Um, Sergeant Lopez,
how can we make this work if we can? if we if we can if I don't well honestly I I spoke with uh Kathulo the biggest concern is it's opening the door for everyone in the city where it's it's residential zone
it's a residential place so anyone who wants to host a party can come here then and with the intention say it's going to be for a sweet 15 or whatever the case may be and it can turn out to be an afterour party okay so it seems like the application.
It's on a Sunday. We're trying to make sure you guys until what time are we asking for this? 2 to 7. 2 to 6 to 7:00 p.m. 2 to 6:00 p.m. She 6 p.m. the clo the doors will be closed
even the bases. I don't know. It's it's it's my deadline. Okay. Um, I really want to help you guys make this happen. I do think obviously celebrating culture is important. Um,
the police department though I I understand the concern about it being a residential area. So, if if you guys can make sure you're done by six, I'm not I'm fine with this. But not yes I do have a meetings u I've been
having a meetings you know every week you know with the people that we involve um I do been reinforced myself not to be more than 6 p.m. Um the reason also is because I live in Manchester and I have to be early in here and coordinate everything organize everything.
Yeah. Um the other problem is, you know, if we grant this today, you'll come back in a week or two or maybe six months and say we want to have another party and it ain't going to happen. It can't keep going on like that. It's a residential area. It's not a business area. It's not
like Es Street, Common Street, or Street like that. You're in a street where all residents live. There's condos over there, businesses over there, and all kinds of houses, you know, single family homes. Mhm. Either I have I have a suggestion.
Can we table the item and call for a special meeting on Friday and give you opportunity to find a new location that they can have the event on on Sunday? It is possible. for
York in Florida, Miami. how we can help. I I don't want to say no to you, but I'm gonna have I'm on the verge of saying no unless I come with a condition that you'll never come in front of us again for this address.
Yeah, this is the problem is not it's it's the issue is that we will we will get backlash for the fact that it's a residential area and we have to make sure that we are
listening to the recommendation of the police department. Um that's our biggest thing. Yeah. the football. She's asking what can we actually do because we don't want to cancel it. We
don't want to cancel the event. And I think music is fine. The only the queens. Yeah, they have like a chloric group that's coming to do like um a performance um and that should they should be done by sex.
Yeah. Yeah. magnitude. So in that case, I mean, I do really sorry for that situation. I did not know and I'm I'm part of the community and the culture, but I'm not as much as I've been together with it. Um, like I said,
I work in Manchester. You know, as of right now, I'm supposed to be working, but I came here because I wanted to support my, you know, I wanted to support my country for this. Um, going forward, you know, thank you for letting me know that because I did not know anything about it, but I want to going forward with this because this
has been done already. And, you know, I'm been dedicating a lot of my time of this working with ambassadors and councils and people that are going to be there. So, that's why we try to get everything legal. you know, we don't want to go, you know, just do this without no legal,
you know, advice and stuff like that. So, thank you. Thank you. If we approve this, it has to be done at 6:00 on the nose. It will be done at 5:30. It has to be stopped and calmly and peacefully. Okay.
Okay. The next thing is don't come back in 6 months or a year from now and apply for that FK to do it again because we're not going to approve it. Okay. I understand you're you're caught right now because of all the money you spent for this band and all the other things you've done and I don't want to
see you lose any money and the community needs it. Okay? So, if you would go by our ruling that you won't come back here again for that, then maybe I I might approve it. You got my words. Okay. Thank you. I'll like to make a
motion to approve this uh wine and beer license. Wine and beer. um for the 10th. I'll second that on the conditions we just talked about. Okay.
Commissioner Morales made a motion to approve one day license for commit independence the Ecuador second by Commissioner Leer by the with the condition to finish by 6:00 PM. Commissioner Moral, how do you vote?
Yes. Commissioner has your vote. Yes. Motion pass. Okay. See, you can pass on Friday to pick up the license. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Before one. Okay. Remember, thank you.
Remember, you're not here by 1:30. The place is closed. You cooperate. No. 1:30. I want to make sure before one. Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay. Um, that's it. before to adjourn the meeting. I see is here. I don't know
if he come. I'm Yeah, he's going the other meeting. No, everything is okay. Okay, you're good. You're good. I don't know. I want to say hi to you. No, no, with us. Okay. He's an Arctica owner. Yeah.
Okay. Arctica owner. But I saw one also here. He was here. It's a confirmation of the fire. Yes. From city hall. Okay. There is another meeting. They're for another meeting. If you can come to support Oh, I'm coming. The chief, please. Bueno, we um our next meeting for the
licensing board is taking place on the 20th at 5:30. I'd like to make a motion to adjourn this meeting. Second. Commissioner Moral made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Second by Commissioner Leair. Commissioner Moral, how do you vote? Yes.
Commissioner Le, how do you vote? Yes. Meeting adjourned. Thank you very much all for coming. Thank you. Thank you. If you're 50, you could be taking advantage of everything You guys are doing
it on But only I know that Oh, no. I brought something. Now these are the questions. No, you should go. Okay. Their job is to connect with the community. How was your trip?
Good. That's all big cheese. I enjoyed it. You guys look like you're from there in the picture that you belong to that side of the world. You think so? We didn't feel that way. We're totally No, your kids are so tall. Oh,
very elegant. So, yeah, we sort of did not fit in Arabic. No, but Muslim, you know, I just I have that in my mind. My little kids. Oh, my kids. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
there still are babies in there. The whole thing was blocked. Okay, let's go. for the back of the video. I ignore everybody, especially when it's important meeting like an important
Good. Good evening and welcome to the regular meeting for the Lawrence City Council. Today is Wednesday, August 6, 2025. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the act of 2022, this meeting will be hybrid,
allowing participation both in person in the city council chambers as well as remotely. The Zoom link for anybody that want to participate remotely was available through the city clerk's office. And this meeting will be also
transmitted live through the Lawren City Council uh Facebook page as well as the Lawren City Council YouTube page. Madame Claire Roco. Councelor Levy present.
Council Lant present. Council Luzan present. Council Del Rosario present. Council Santiago present. Council Marl present. Council Reyes present. Council vice president Infante present. Council President Rodriguez
present. Uh please join me for a moment in honor of the police and the fire. Now join me for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. We got a few minutes that we need to approve and those are from uh June 6, 2025 and prior year February 6, 2024,
February 20, 2024, March 19, 2024, April 2nd, 2024, and April 16, 2024. Can I get a motion to approve those minutes? Motion to approve. Second. There's a motion to approve. Properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. Any nays?
No. Uh uh. Madame Cler, please call the role. Council Reyes. Yes. Council Mamo, yes. Council Santiago, yes. Councelor Del Rosario,
yes. Council Luzon, yes. Council Lant, no. Council Levy, yes. Council Vice President Infante, this is for the minutes. Yes. Council President Rodriguez, but yes. Now we going to go to public
participation. We have a a a huge amount of participant today would like to speak. Uh and the rules of the public participation are follow are as follow. You're going to have two and a half minute to speak. Uh at the two-minut mark, you're going to have you're going
to hear a beep. Please refer to this council as a whole. uh and we're going to proceed with the list that it was provided uh at the podium. Anybody that signed up going to have an
opportunity to speak. The first the first person that we have is Anna Morales. Name and address for the record, please. Hello. Good evening. My name is Anna Victoria Morales. I live at Fort Mar
Lane, Lawrence, Mass. Latina. Pat is a friend, a colleague, somebody that we are very proud to stand behind. I spoke in Spanish because we are an immigrant community. We are a Latino community. All of the of the business
owners that are behind me are here in support of his confirmation for chief of the Lions community. As a commissioner, I had the pleasure of working with him for five years, and I can attest that he always put the needs of the community
first and always was willing to work with all of the business owners behind me and more. Gracias. Council President, Council President, just want to remind uh ourselves that we do have these devices um so you're able
to speak in Spanish and we could hear those of us who don't speak it. You will be able to hear the translation. So, we don't need to go back and forth going forward. Council President, so I'm willing to put this on. If the gentleman wants to speak in Spanish, that's fantastic. I can hear it in English.
Uh good evening. Um Good evening. My name is Miguel Serero. Uh my wife Sereroin, we're here in support of Captain Delaney. Captain Delaney, it's I tell you a person that always when he sees me on the street, Miguel, anything I can do for you, anything I can help you, I mean, we are
supported 100%. What is your name and address, please? Miguel Cino. 11. Um, Now I going to call Hello, my name is I going to for Juan Hidalgo which is you. Yes. And you going we're going to start the class for him because he signed up on
the list. Juano name and address for the record. Yeah. Okay. My name is Juan Hidalgo from Balis and Malayas. I'm here in support of Captain Delaney. Just like they say, he's always there to help. He's always there to guide us through the issue of the city, the new regulations. So, it's
always good to have somebody who you can count on that instead of telling you what to do, he explain you what to do. And that's all we need. and uh be very happy to lend my support to him. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. The next person that we have is H
Malik for the record please. Omar Mali 53 Chester Street. Good evening honorable members. In this historic meeting tonight, we the citizen are united to support honorable chief
Deleni as the next fire chief of the Lawrence. His sacrifices, his dedication, his love for the city, the man from this honorable council to vote yes to this nomination. Thank you. Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence
Police Department and Lawrence Fire Department are the best first responder in the nation. We are proud to support honorable chief Delaney for the for the next fire chief of the Lawrence. Lawrence, one city united by support of
the police and fire department. We one city of the immigrant witness through the ears of Chief Delaney's dedication and support for our citizen. Every citizen proud of the Lawrence firefighters. Thank you for your
dedication. We hope and we wish the leadership on honorable honorable Chief Delaney, one of the best firefighters, one of the best fire leaders in our city. Lawrence always strong. Lawrence always unite. We are proud to support
our police department and the fire department. We are united to ask you please respectfully vote yes to nomination of honorable chief Delaney. Thank you. Thank you. Next person that we have is Rich Roso.
No, please the order please hold up to the end. We have limited amount of time. Thank you. Uh the next person that we have is Rich Russell. Councelor Russell. Good evening, council. Rich Russell, 34 Cross Street. Tonight I speak of varying
degrees of unhappiness. I'm not uh I'm not happy with the ongoing political sign wars. I'm not overjoyed with having my campaign signs damaged or removed because of my association or the signs closeness to
other candidates signs. I am frustrated by candidates putting up their signs without getting permission from property owners. While I do seek permission and willingly accept their refusal with dignity, a quick bit of info to all that are running
uh for office. I am wellversed in the mass OCPF website. Can you imagine my shock when I found the following? Tomas Lightbody, Saras, miscellaneous contractor. Eric Manning Roslandale trash manager. Michael Marulo Lynfield
and Joseph Rupo of Winthre both listed as disposal managers. And Joseph Percupo Jr. of East Boston listed as self-employed. All donated $1,000 to Mayor Brian Dein's campaign and all
listed an association with Capital Waste, our city's trash hauler. I am mature enough to realize ultimate well I do have I do have the documentation here to prove what I just said. I am mature enough to realize ultimately that
donation laws were written by politicians for politicians. I'm also not overjoyed with candidates that accept, and I use that word accept very loosely, donations from city employees. One other question I have is why are so
many out oftowners willing to donate to local politicians? Do they have some sort of vested financial interest in this city that they may either influence or benefit from? Also not overjoyed with the rash of newly paved streets just
prior to the municipal elections. Uh one more question. Why are traffic signals at some intersections turned towards the sky? Is the city getting a subsidy from the FAA direct traffic to Lawrence airport? Last comment. I do
support I do support the elevation of Captain Patrick Delaney to the position of Lawrence fire chief. Thank you for the time. The next person that we have is Thomas Brown. Name and address for the record, please.
Hello. Hello. I represent the Ever Mills. We have 75 uh residents in our building and Captain Delaney and his team keeps our building safe. He's I recommend he's make a good chief. Thank you.
Thank you. The next person that The next person that we have is uh Michael Blanchard. Good evening, council. This is Michael Blanchard. I'm a captain at Engine 8. Been a firefighter in Lawrence for 34 years. Been a firefighter for 37 years
total. Many years ago, we lost the position of fire chief here in the city out of civil service, which was a a really big blow to our department as a whole. Uh it really took the legs out from underneath of us. We're a different breed. We're a different cut of cloth.
You know, many of us grow up wanting to be firemen. We start off as that little kid that's got the hat on that says fire chief. And it's not for any other reason on the fact that that's what we want to be someday. When that happened, we lost that opportunity. We felt like it was never back. The opportunity is in front
of us to have a Lawrence firefighter again be the chief of this department. I can sing Pat's praises all night long of what he's done for the city, what he's done in the time that I've known him. You're going to hear it all night long from everybody else. I'm speaking from a different angle tonight. Sorry about
that, Chief. I'm coming more from our department as a whole. Our department as a whole will be in a better position. The morale will be better. You see there's a little bit of a spring in Guy's step again. It's a huge step for us as a department. So, I
firmly firmly support his uh elevation to the position of fire chief. And um you really want to listen to what everybody else has to say about all the positive things about him because they're all true. Thank you. Thank you. The next person that we have is Al Serano
for the record, please. Good evening. Also, 1056 SSX Street, Lawrence, Mass. Members of the city council and guests. It is a pleasure to speak with you today about not only distinguished V captain,
but also a very respectful member of the community. It is hard to find the right words and fully describe capital and the learning. In fact, I don't think it's fair and limit to him with just a few adjectives. But I chose what I had to choose and I
would say he's a tenacious, compassionate, and honorable. He never give up. He truly cares about our city and he's a man of integrity. These are the kinds of qualities that bring it a real value to Lawrence.
Since Captain Eleni has played a roles in many of our projects, he want Lotus to grow not just with new buildings but the safety is a priority. I met Captain Eleni 5 years ago in one of our projects. You know when the fire department come to your projects
everybody scares see what's going on what's and he came in and introducing himself say my name is Captain Delaney. anything that I can do for you and anything that I can help you so this project can be running safety and smoothly. And it was one of those
impressions that I had for the gentleman who is sitting in here and I will concede to all of you city councils of Lawrence that will give him an opportunity to run as the next fire chief of the city of Lawrence. Thank you so much. Thank you. The next person that we have
is Jose Luis Vargas. name and address for the record, please. I am 19. I have been 19 years here. I've been here working in construction. I known him for a while. Every time there was a problem, he would always say how to fix, how to do the
things, but he's always guided us to do different. Uh good evening. Uh my name is Sean Salama with uh New Lawrence Development. I'll try to make this short, sweet, and to the point. Uh, in the seven years that we've been here, I think I see
Captain Delaney more than I see my own reflection in the mayor, which is a great thing. Uh, the city of Lawrence is still standing and standing strong because of the work that he's done, keeping our building safe, helping our businesses grow, and keeping the
community where it should be and where it's going to be going for not just today, but for the hopefully next couple of decades. Uh we are very fortunate and lucky to have someone that is as dedicated and
committed to not only making the city a safer and better place for not just the the Lawrence Fire Department, but also our community and our families. Uh I can't thank you enough. I can't thank the Lawrence Fire Department enough. You guys are an absolute credit to our society and I'm excited to see where we
go from here. Thank you, Captain uh Chief. That's the best part. I get to call him Chief now. Thank you. Thank you. the next person. My name is Jimmy Salama. I uh been working with Captain Delanei, which hopefully very soon by your uh
decision will be the chief for us. But actually, he was the chief for me all the time because he's helping me all the time through the building I've been building, fixing the problem, teach us how to do it, what the safety way to do it. And in
the end of the day, we have safe building, safe environmental for everybody. I hope already he will be our chief because he's been to me the chief even from before. Thank you very much. We're going to we're going to follow the we're going to follow the list. Thank you so much for your opinion. The next
person on the list uh here which is we need to follow uh is uh Preventivo Desad. That was the name we got here. Uh and the next person is uh Todd.
Yes. Uh one one representative first one representative from from you guys and we need your name and address for the record please. Manuel Moss
Massachusetts. My name is Manuel Mats and I live at Lauren Massachusetts. Lawrence, Massachusetts. 46 46 46 46 What? Massachusetts. Hav Street. Lawrence, Massachusetts.
I am the colonel for the preventive and I support the Dominican Republic. And I am we're here to support the city of Lawrence recognized by the the state of Massachusetts
and also by the city of Lawrence and we are all here to support to the chief of the department of with a love and uh also very uh supportive very proud to God allow that place. He's a good
man. Latina and he supports the the city with Latin people. Gracias. Thank you. Thank you. Gracias. Uh the next person that we have in the list is Todd Quint. Yeah, my name is Todd Quinn. Um I'm from
the DAV, 112 East Averil Street. And the reason why I'm coming here tonight is to talk more about um women serving in the military. All right. So basically we want to honor women uh in the military
that have served in the Marramac Valley in Lawrence. And one in particular is US Army nurse corpse Margaret Anna Hwitt um who was a hero to this country and did serve uh in the military uh for many
years and we want to honor her um her service and make sure she'd be the like the first woman honored first nurse woman honored here in in in uh Lawrence. Um, so little little thing that I want to say. I was a uh sergeant in the US
Air Force uh Desert Storm and women uh were vital to our mission. They helped us to achieve mission readiness. Uh they're they were just like instrumental in making things go so smoothly and they
helped me greatly as a sergeant and helped me to achieve my uh commanding role in leading 12 people. without women uh in the military serving um we don't have a nation. So I just wanted to uh say that and wanted to thank you so much
for allowing me to share. Thank you. The next person that we have the next person that we have is uh Dan Tron. Name address for the record, please. Yes. Uh my name is Dan Terrone. I'm the
uh commander of DAV chapter 2 in Lawrence, but I'm also a Lawrence resident. I resident I reside at Tinsia Drive. And um I'm also here tonight to talk uh about Margaret Anne Huitt Sheen.
Um she was a a a nurse in World War II. and uh just by saying that I don't think we have enough recognition for for women in the armed services. And uh I I just wanted to make that
clear. I was a Viet I'm a Vietnam veteran and I know what nurses uh went through in that conflict. And uh contrary to opinion or facts uh there were nurses that were killed in combat.
There was eight of them uh killed in combat in Vietnam. And uh there were also uh 16 US Army nurses were killed in combat situations in World War II. So you don't have to be
a male to be a hero. You don't have to be a hero to carry a weapon. uh these women especially Miss Mr. Chen was definitely a a representative of our country and we'd like to honor her by uh
having uh something a plaque thing put up on the street she was born which was Saratoga Street. I thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you. The next person that we have, The next person that we have is Salopoly,
Salopoli, 360 Marramac Street, Riverwalk Properties. First of all, I'd like to just thank everyone for being here today. This is a thankless job in some instances, and I appreciate your effort to be here today. Um, I just want to give you a little story about me and my family. We were first welcomed into
Lawrence in 2003. We went over to the Riverwalk properties. It looks a little different than it did in 2003. In 2003, it was completely abandoned complex. Um, blight buildings with no roof on it. And we had a vision as a family, as an
organization to renovate Riverwalk. But I want to tell you, Riverwalk, the success of it today, which is 5,000 people work there, 2,000 people live there today. The success is not built just on the Leoli family name or the organization. The success is built on by
people in this room. The success is built by this building that stands here today. It's been tireless people that worked in here through zoning and planning, former mayors and people like Captain Delaney. I met Captain Delaney 23 years ago.
I got to a crossro crossroads in my life. Was I going to stay in Lawrence or was I going to leave? There was an opportunity for me to leave. We hit some hard hard uh uh opportunities in front of us. Uh maybe as in the past you can remember some political winds that were
in the past and that's where they belong in the past. But it was people like Captain Delaney that encouraged me to stay here at Riverwalk. As a result of him encouraging me to stay at Riverwalk, thousands of people have jobs today. 15% of all the people that work at Riverwalk
are from Lawrence, Massachusetts. That's over a thousand people have jobs. And when I had a problem and it had to do with the fire department and we were putting things together and we had questions we needed, who did I pick the phone up? I called Captain Delaney and without question, he always came down
and helped us. He guided us. He gave us advice. He never let me skirt the issues or what needed to get done for safety reasons. But he answered my questions and he answered the phone. Sometime they were on weekends, sometime they were on Sunday mornings. And when you have a project like Riverwalk, you you're
working around the clock 24 hours a day. So on behalf of my family, on behalf of my mother and father, behalf of my organization, behalf of my family, I just want to recommend Captain Delaney. I am this organization is a better organization because of people like Captain Delaney. And thank you for
allowing me to come to Lawrence and thank you for making me a part of this family. The next person that we have on the list is uh Si Permo. Good evening all. Sadi Perdomo 18 Hamilton Street. I am here to speak on
behalf in support of Captain Delaney. He is a welldeserving um person to be receiving an a higher rank to be chief. He is his integrity speaks for it and his he's empathetic to the people of the community where he's
always there to lay a hand to help and to always be able to answer questions and like the sir that was here before he always answer his calls. He's always answering a message no matter at what time and it doesn't matter how small the
job is or how big. So I support his new ranking of chief. Thank you. Thank you. The next person. We are dealing with educated people. I ask you to please hold the applause to the end. I have say that multiple times.
So please do it. Uh it is easy. We need to move this thing forward. Uh, the next person is Irvin Severino. Name and address for the record, please. We don't have it here. Yeah, my name is Irvin Severino. I live at 16 Washington Street. I also own a
business here in 139 Jackson Street, Independent Importer Specialist, but we are not here uh tonight for that today. Tonight, I'm here for Mr. and uh she's Margaret. Um
20 10,000 uh female veterans was deployed for Vietnam. She was one of them. And um here in the city of Lawrence, she was born and raised here in the city of Lawrence. And we haven't recognized one
yet. I believe that if we can found more so we continue working on it but for now we got her. I take in consideration for the next time to please um let's get her name at least in one corner
uh in and get a hero because she saved a lot of life but also a lot of died on her hand and how many she patched to put back in the field and that's very important to me and I hope for you guys too. Please take in consideration uh and
let's put some heroes in our field in in a great city of Lawrence with a good recognition and I expect you guys to please uh pass by and you will see there's plenty of space uh for us to do something but I go
a little bit further and that family when she married to one of the chihans three veterans from the same family which is that's important you know like when you have a family that came from another country they are from u Irish and three family uh in the army at that
time she also could have say you know what I want to stay in the local hospital I don't want to put my life in danger at least we owe her something to in the old days females in the army was just like another bird nobody was
serving but how many life did she serve or then serve n out of 10,000 9,000 95% % 90% serve as a as a nurse. Please take that in consideration. Thank you. The next person that we have
is Brandon Santel. Brandon. All right. The next person that we have is councelor Plan Michael. you. You're the last one. Thank you very much, Council President. Um, as you many of you know, we do know
because you're a part of this. Um, I went down to Tunisia to provide bring a resolution to the five servicemen who were killed during World War II. And I'm here to thank you all. I'm here to thank you all for being a part of that resolution. Uh not only this council,
but the previous councils that some of you have served on have been so supportive of my efforts of going to every grave site around the world where a Lawrence individual has been buried. And this is my ninth one at this point. What I want to do is thank you and I also want to thank the mayor for the
proclamation that he sent with me as well as I gave the proclamation and our citation remembering those soldiers. I did receive an email or a letter afterwards and I wanted to read that from you. This is from the superintendent. Says, "Council Lant, thank you for your thoughtful note to
the executive director Spor for allowing me the opportunity to accompany you and your family during your meaningful visit to the North Africa American Cemetery. It was truly a pleasure meeting you and you all and an honor to be a part of commemorating the five brave servicemen from Lawrence. First Lieutenant Kenneth
Kho, Technician Fourth Grade George Nice, Private Leo Lejandra, Private Firstclass John Jibo, and Corporal Stanley Buriki. Your family's heartfelt tribute beginning with the sand rubbings of each name followed by the placing of the city of Lawrence flags were moments
of deep honor, respect, and remembrance. It was a moving experience that captured the enduring bond between a grateful hometown and its fallen sons. Both the city proclamation and the city council resolution you presented will be
framed and proudly displayed in the superintendent's office, visible to our staff and visitors alike as a lasting reminder of your city's commitment to remembrance and sacrifice. Please don't hesitate to reach out in
the future. You, your family, and the people of the city of Lawrence are always welcome here at the North Africa American Cemetery. Respectfully, Superintendent Director Adrien Adams. Thank you, counselors.
Thank you. The next person, the next person that we have is Miguel. I have been a resident of Lawrence for more than 20 years to support um Captain Delaney for the great work that he's done.
a professional that has helped gives good recommendations to for his new uh job. My respect for you. Thank you. Thank you. The next person that we have is uh counselor Stephanie
Infante. Councelor Vice President Infante. Good evening, colleagues. I'm here um to read a letter that was sent to me by a constituent, as I've done in the past. Um I just want to read I want to iterate that these are not my words, that these are um words of a constituent that could
not be here tonight, but did email me and ask me to read this letter into the record on his behalf. Dear councelor Infante, I'm write I'm writing as a resident of the city of Lawrence to strongly recommend my my longtime friend and former colleague Patrick Delaney for
the position of fire chief of the of the Lawrence fire department. I respectfully request that you read this letter into the record at the city council meeting on Wednesday evening prior to the vote on his appointment. My name is Scott J. McNamera
and I reside at 16 Crusher Drive, Lawrence, Mass. I have known Patrick for over 40 years since we were teenagers at Lawrence High School. During my more than 25 years of service with the Lawrence Police Department, I had the pleasure of working closely closely with
Patrick on numerous projects. As a third generation Lawrence firefighter, Patrick has deep roots in our community, embodying the proud traditions of the Lawrence Fire Department. His lifelong dedication to our city and his extensive experience make him exceptionally
qualified to lead this department. Patrick is a is a consumate professional known for his integrity, compassion, and unwavering comm commitment to serving the people of Lawrence. He possesses a remarkable ability to form lasting relationships and build trust, fostering
strong connections within the community and among his colleagues. These qualities combined with his proven leadership in the fire service make him the ideal candidate for fire chief. I am confident he will uphold the department's storied legacy while advancing its mission to keep our city
safe. I respectfully urge the Lawrence City Council to appoint Patrick Delaney Delaney as the next fire chief. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you for considering my recommendation and for reading this letter to the record. Sincerely, Scott J. Um, McNair.
Thank you. All these names are going to be submitting submitted for the record. Uh, now we are proceeding with the agenda. Counselors, can I get a motion to on table item 11719, which is a resolution and recognition of the Lawrence uh, academic achievers. It was
put together by councelor Plan back in 2019. Can I get a motion for that? So moved. There's a motion to on table properly second discussion. There is none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. cancel our plan. Thank you very much, counselors and council president. Uh continuating
continuing um our time where we are honoring and remembering the the highest achievers in our Lawrence schools. Um, I would like uh to bring up um the counselor who represents the next location uh which is councelor
what did I say was from Tower Hill. Is it Del Rosario? Council Del Rosario. Thank you. Because you guys split up. Could you come up for a second? And while he's coming up will Briana uh Ventura Marino please come forward. So counselors, let me just preface on
both of these individuals. There's a reason why we're doing this. This individual and the next individual are the individuals who have exceeded and surpassed and achieved in their institutions in their secondary education. And we don't honor, we honor
our sports heroes, we honor those other individuals, but those individuals who excel academically sometimes do not get the kind of attention that they deserve. And so I think what we're doing tonight and we've done in the past is recognize those individuals. Briana Ventura Marino
graduated from Lawrence High School's Abbott Abbott Lawrence Academy with a 4.86 GPA and was the top scholar in her class. She's an L pin recipient, received high honor role in all A's in the 10th and 11th grade and received several awards such as the Harvard Book
Award and the award of Marramac government and the MIT's best of writing for the 2023 award. She participated with Groundwork Lawrence, the Mass Bringham Junior's Lab Ambassadors program and was the youth activist club co-president.
Briana will be attending Tus University in the fall where she expects to focus on biomed sciences and public health and all of us have recognized us through this resolution and I want to congratulate Rihanna and wish her every success and going forward. Do you want
to say something? Congratulations. Thank you. Hello. On behalf of I guess Tower Hill, um I just want to say thank you for recognizing me as a transfer student from Abalance Academy. Um transfer students from outside schools like
Onidos aren't can't be awarded validictorian. And um although I was told late that I wouldn't be given that award um I'm extremely grateful that you guys were able to recognize me as the top scholar at Abbott. So thank you. Congratulations. Thank you.
school. Oh, you're here, too. I'm so sorry. I thought you had a different hat on today. You want to hang around? Hang off this one. This is a resolution. It is. We got one more. Could I ask Counselor Santiago to come up, please? And I want to apologize. I knew he was here, but I didn't think of
it when I came up here. We had the assistant superintendent of schools, Carlos Mats, here and it makes a lot of sense that the individual whom this these individuals graduated from were under his jurisdiction. So, thank you, Superintendent Matsos. We appreciate that. Which brings us to John Anton
Pñena Palanco. John, come up, please. Say a few words, too. Okay. All right. Sure. No worries. The day is So, here we are, John. As promised, and thank you for being here. I know it wasn't easy to get here. Uh, but you graduated from Lawrence High School's Upper School Academy with a 4.7538
GPA and was the top scholar in his class. John is a National Honor Society member and LPIN recipient and received the second highest MCCAST score award in math is an is an AP scholar award. John also participated in the National Honor
Society as a governing board member and was a teaching assistant for the YDO. John will be attending UMass Low in the fall where he expects to focus on physics. And now therefore, all of us here commemorate and recognize the fine work that you did at the high school and
we congratulate you and wish you every success coming forward. Want to say something counselor? You want to say something? Yes. Congratulations. Thank you so much. There you go. Congratulations. There you go. Thank you so much. And I just want to say to thank you for recognizing me for being the high school
scholar at LHS and this was a very hard journey for me and I just want to say thank you for recognizing me and especially thank you for my mom that is here that she support me through all my journey. So thank you so much for that. Council President, are we going to have
a twominut picture? Can we do that? We can do it like screencast. All right, go ahead. Motion to thinking right here. Right here.
John. John, come back up. Where are you? Yes. Mr. Hey, you want the version of Yeah. Madame Vice President Infante and the
chair of the personal committee. Item 325. Item 300-25 con the confirmation to appoint Patrick Delaney as fire chief brought to us by Mayor Deena and our acting personnel
director was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation. Wave the 30 days. There is a motion. Wait. Okay, never mind that. Uh there is a motion on the table properly second. Um
discussion discussion discussion discussion. Councelor Vice President. Thank you through council president. I would like to have the HR dire our acting HR director come to the podium please. Good evening everyone.
Director, before I start with my questions, um I first want to say shout out to Mrs. Delaney cuz she helped out with some of this and and we discussed it at the personnel committee and uh you know women women are the backbone of of
their husbands, you know. Um, HR director, we've made we asked for not ask, we made some recommendations, requirements uh that we asked you to bring up to the administration. I did see we have a revised contract here. I
reviewed the contract and I see under section three, the last paragraph is still the exact same wording. Um, do you have a an update on that? I'm going to defer to the city attorney on that because he he was the one that drafted the actual
Got it. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. There he is. City attorney, you have my copy. I gave it to you contract. And just uh for my colleagues, the the discussion that we had at the personnel
committee level is that uh section three of the contract that the ending of that paragraph states that the personnel department will do whatever it takes to ensure that uh Mr. Patrick Delay's promotion to deputy fire chief um is
granted. Upon further conversation, we were talking about his civil service status and and positions through that and we asked for that to be updated to more generic wording so that it the following words. This is what I had
on. Okay. The city agrees to take whatever the further steps are required of it to secure from personnel department any approval of the Patrick Delaney's promotion to deputy fire chief in subsequent leave of absence. That's the language that I had changed it to.
Okay. Okay. So, that reflects the whole civil service situation, correct? That we Okay. All right. Uh my my second question is um I guess for you, city attorney, I don't know who to ask now. There was another uh suggestion that was
brought to that was asked to be brought up to the administration concerning community relations as part of the duties. Was that added? Because I don't see it here. I believe that's part of the ordinance so it didn't need to be added. Okay. And the reason why that was
brought up to my colleagues is that there's been some concerns about department heads being asked or requested not to go to certain certain activities or meetings. Um, councelor Luzon who's part of the personnel
committee brought this concern uh to the HR director and that's the reason why we requested this to be added to the to the contract. Yeah. Uh and and my understanding and I want to make sure everybody understands that the fire chief I I don't mean to speak to him along with the police chief
their intention is that should there be a community meeting they would probably attend the first one but obviously their jobs require them to do so much what they would have is have a deputy chief uh someone from then on in but their their intention is to at least attend
the first community meeting so they can introduce themselves. I mean, I think everybody knows who these people are, but it just to give the respect to these community groups that they deserve that they both chiefs agree that they would they would show up for the first meeting and then they were after if they had conflicts, they would send someone from
the fire department or police department, but it may not exactly be the chief. Okay. Thank you. And council president, my last statement is there was uh a we had discussion around a union letter that was posted on Facebook. Um I asked
the HR director to bring a copy of that. Did you bring that copy? I did not. So luckily, sorry to interrupt. Luckily, I did do my research. I found that letter and I do want to clarify that the union letter. So the the discussion was that
the union within the Lawrence department sent a letter asking people within the department not to apply to this position. But in reality, it was the fire union of the state that sent a letter to other departments outside of the city of Lawren Lawrence um re
strongly recommending for them not to apply for this position to give the opportunity to our personnel within our fire department um the opportunity to apply for this Lawrence Fire Chief position. So, I just want to clarify that that's what happened and it was not
from our Lawrence um fire union. And I did briefly speak to to the union about that. Thank you. Absolutely. Councel Rosari. Thank you to you uh council president. I'm not surprised to see this room full
of people. I I had an overwhelming uh phone calls over the weekend and I and I was surprised on a sense that in the past two years all the overwhelming calls were to not to support whoever was running for this position. and and to
you, Captain Delaney, hopefully we can name you Chief. I I'm very proud to say that all the calls that I receive, overwhelming calls, it was supporting you and everything you have done with all the business and in the city and most of the business owners in my district, all of them call me. I did
give you a call. Um, I got emails also supporting you and and that's why we here and hopefully we can all agree that this is one of the best options that we have, if not the best. uh according to the people that you work with on an
everyday basis because they're all here. So, thank you for what you've been doing. Thank you for being part of this community because you showing it on everybody here and you showing you showing to me on the phone calls that I have over the weekend because my phone was ringing. I said, "Here we go again.
Don't don't vote for him, you know." And I was afraid to answer the phone, but overwhelming phone calls full of support. most of again most of the business owners and people that you connected with are supporting you and I'm proud to support you too. Thank you for what you've been doing. Thank you. The next person that we have
is u thank you council president. Um and I'm going to go back to the uh comment that the attorney made and also for uh the human resource director. Uh um do you recall what was
your answer when we you mentioned the post on Facebook about the union because it looks like correct me if I'm wrong um um Vice President Infanted
it was uh I think it was different her comment I think that she said and correct me if I wrong that the union was in report of Captain Delaney
um position. Am I am I correct? Point of clarification. Madam vice president just provided clarification and I did speak to the union regarding that. I was under the impression that the letter had said something similar that that they were
going to support uh the candidate. Okay. But it was internal candidate. So the the word before it was the the the operating word. Okay. So do you want to uh Okay. Yeah. I could look I thank you
for clarifying that. Uh and can I uh have the uh attorney can I ask him a question? And based on uh by the vice president's comment on why it's necessary to have
clarification on the contract about community meetings community relationship and and my concern is uh community meetings um what you just said here is not completely accurate uh not
they are not and I'm going to refer to some of the directors uh the departments um some of them some of the directors they are not allowed to attend all the meetings. So
my concern is that the chief of police and the fire chief, their job is to be in constant contact with the community regardless who represents that district,
regardless if the council if uh if the council that represent that district is an ally uh to the mayor. Okay. So we need to be clear in that and take the politics out of the need of the
community. So that's why I'm I'm telling you why we made that comment. I I understand perfectly. I'm not Yeah. And I want the people to understand why we wanted that in the contract because I personally and professionally know Captain Delaney. I
I'm also a business owner in the community and I know he's always available. But what will happen if the mayor decides that he's not um he decides not to approve a community meeting? So are we going to be if the
community is not going to be allowed uh to listen from the from the chief because a particular mayor doesn't have to be necessarily this mayor. It could be any other mayor uh doesn't want that communication to happen. So that that's
why we wanted that in his contract. I wanted that. I understand what you're saying. And again, I don't get into the political of it. Oh, no. You do, attorney. You do. But well, if you want me to go in the political of it, everybody in your district is a voter. I'm not talking about I'm just saying
anybody that shows up at that meeting is a voter. Somebody might vote for the mayor. Some of them might vote against the mayor. Some of them might vote for you, some of them might vote against you. politically it would be unwise for any elected official to say don't show up to that group because containing that
group might be people of your supporters that you might want to be there. So I hope that the mayor is watching because you just said something very important. So it's not wise for a mayor uh to not to allow his directors or the chief of chief of police or the fire
chiefs not to attend a community meeting. So, I just hope that Mayor Ryan De Pñena is watching this meeting because we, the people that represent every district, we have the same um we
want the community to benefit from the chief of police um suggestions or the ch of the fire chief suggestions. We want to see open communication. So, thank you for saying that and I hope that this administration is paying attention to
what what you just said and that's why it was important for us as a personal community to mention that it looks like that some counselors here have privilege and others don't and at the end of the day that is doesn't benefit doesn't
benefit the community. So we would like to have any director and if if they are uh if they are able to to attend the community meetings regardless of the
regardless of of the politics. That's what I wanted to make clear. No problem. Thank you. The next the next the next counselor is councelor Lean. Thank you council president. Three points. Point number point number one, um I wanted to just like Chief Aguilar,
I wanted to know what was in the personnel files of Patrick Delaney. And so um in consultation with the uh personnel director, um I'm it's unfortunate I have to say this.
There was not much information was inside that. And I know that someone with the background, credentials, um, and history that, uh, current acting chief Delaney has should have at least
some stuff in there. And it disappoints me tremendously that as it stands today right now is that we do not have the kind of files that we should have when we're looking to review performance of our employees and make a determination
as to whether or not they're up for a promotion potentially. What kind of record do they bring that we can evaluate? The good news here is that I have talking to director Garcia. she is implementing changes to that and that is promising and I applaud her for making
those changes. Um I'm surprised it hasn't happened until she has been on the job but I thank her for she understands how important it is. So that's a good thing. That's a side note. So I just want to thank uh Director Garcia for taking the initiative and trying to fulfill that part of the responsibility for decision makers like
us. That's number one. Number two, I received a um I was asked by Bob Sheen, who is the owner of Sheen's Towing, to read this very brief letter, and I will. Good evening, city councilors. I'm
writing to you tonight in support of Patrick Delaney, becoming the new fire chief for the Lawrence Fire Department. Growing up in South Lawrence, I knew the Elany family well, as they were well known and well-liked in the South Common neighborhood. Fast forward some years, Patrick became a Lawrence firefighter
and I would see him at various auto accidents we responded to while towing for the city. We would always be he would always be helpful to us at the scene with other Lawrence firefighters. Watching Patrick rise through the ranks has been a source of pride uh for our
community. His dedication, experience, and deep ties to the city make him an outstanding choice for fire chief. I have no doubt that he will serve Lawrence with honor and distinction just as he has throughout his career. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Robert Sheen, owner of Sheen
Towing. That's two. Number three. Um despite the fact that we don't have any personnel files on Captain Delaney, at least anything that talks about um his record. Um, my personal experience with Capitol Lady is not unlike many of the
individuals who testified this evening, calling after hours, calling on the weekends. I remember 555 South Union Street when you were on vacation, picked up the phone and dealt with that cluster of an issue uh that was difficult to deal with and uh you were responsive.
Um, always was a straight shooter, gave people the benefit of the doubt and was fair. And um that's how I know um that's how I know Patrick Delaney. And so um he comes well regarded. Even if this room wasn't packed, even if nobody showed up
here this evening, my understanding and seeing this man work, it's been a testimony to who he is. He's a true professional. And I think uh for many of the reasons that were addressed this evening and more um I have no reason why I'm not going to support and I'm I'm be
looking forward to voting in favor of uh current acting chief Patrick Delaney as our next fire chief. And I have to figure out how to stop calling you Captain Delaney because that's a big I keep doing that. So thank you acting chief Delaney. All right the next person the next
counselor is is councelor Reyes. Thank you uh councelor president uh I'm follow the comment with my colleague uh councelor de Rosario we receive a lot of email a lot of phone call through
positive way uh my experience working with captain Deleni is amazing because it doesn't matter the time Saturday on Sunday uh you respond what we ask so I'm really appreciate uh the work you do for
our community thank you so Thank you. The next counselor is councelor Santiago. Hi, good evening. Thank you for doing your service. And I would like to add something about the amendment that
councelor Lon said about h to add the section the community meeting. Yeah. And I would like to that section will be in the contract because really I am thinking in my vote because a couple months ago we did
neighborhood meeting and you couldn't go there. I don't know the reasons and and it's not a secret I am not the favor of consulate for the mayor. We any everybody knows that and another
things that I want to know I want to ask you how is your relationship with the currently the currently candidate for mayor because he he is firefighter you have a lot of support here but he's not here
he has council Santiago that's his his own his opinion about you know his for we asked for the mayor race. So he doesn't have to respond to that question if you want to. Yes, I don't I don't mind answering it.
Counselor Good evening um Mr. council counselors um chair um I don't mind answering that the the the current gentleman Juan Gonzalez that is that is running for mayor um I think I mentioned at the the personnel meeting
he's putting himself out there and as a department we we respect that he's trying to to do something to better the community. I have worked with um firefighter Gonzalez for over 30 years. He's a he's a fabulous firefighter. He's
a he's a great family guy and he's uh he's a colleague and he's a friend and and I respect him very much to answer your question. Thank you, council president. All right, councelor. The next counselor will be councelor Levy.
Good evening. And well, you has to be a leader in some way because like as my fellow council say, we had a lot of phone call just to support you. Um anyway, I know that I met you not too long ago.
let me say maybe a couple of years ago. But from the time that I've been working with you, I'm very glad you know with the way that you work and the way that you treat everybody uh and every single person. Thank you.
Okay. That is very very important. Okay. And I know that sometime I know that uh my fellow colleging community meeting. I know that you are representing our city very well and
anytime you know that you are able to you go to the meetings. I agree. And due to your job sometime I I know there is no uh maybe you won't be able to go. That's
part of the thing that I see. And to do something that I say, you know, is practically to die. Not just only you as a fire chief, but also the fire police. They need to be free of doing what they have to do at the moment that they have to be done. Yes.
Okay. So thank you so much for your work and since the beginning my vote is yes for you and so that to be the next fire chief. Thank you. Thank you councel. Good evening Captain Chief. I've been
calling you a chief for quite some time, but um um I'm not here to debate or challenge any of the positive attributes that have been mentioned uh tonight in regards to your work ethic and the amazing things that you've done for the city of Lawrence for several years. Um
I've had the privilege and honor of working with you and getting to know you on a professional and a personal level. So, by no means do I question your ability to to do the duties and responsibility of chief. Um, I see how
well you integrate with the community. I feel that you do embody what it is to be a true public servant. However, I do have to echo uh what my colleague from district B has mentioned and I've experienced it myself in terms of
uh unfortunately we see positions like the one you're about to be potentially appointed to becomes politicized. Um it is disgusting and unfortunate that um we have to mention these type of issues and
challenges um that some of us counselors face. I want you for the record to state when backed up against the wall and asked not to participate in certain community activities or meetings of
certain districts. what will be your response and how will you manage that type of situation? Thank you. Um, yes, I I agree. I you've heard uh me say before that you guys are a direct link to the community to your constituents. I
think your community meetings are very important. It's a it's a good venue to get our message out across the the city and I think it is very important and if I'm lucky enough to be confirmed I will attend your meetings and because I think
it's it's very important. It's a very important part of the community and it's it's you know one of the fun things about the job is interacting with the people. It's it's one of the things that all of the firefighters, not just myself, enjoy. And uh I will make that
commitment to to the council and to the city. The last question I would as I ma made the same line of questioning to the chief of police. What are the top three priorities um that you will be focusing on if appointed? I'd say the there's a lot of priorities
that we're looking over. A lot of it is is training. We we want to do a lot of training, some more training. We want to do some moderniza modernization of our of our abilities. And right now we're putting a a five-year strategic plan
together. So there's probably more than more than three, but I'd say, you know, a lot of training, a lot of education for our for our firefighters. And then probably other one was it's the top is is health and and you know the the
mental aspect of doing the job is is is helping our firefighters just just be safe. That's that would be three. Um I've concluded my questions. I just to me it was super important for you to state for the record. Yes.
Um when challenged and you know again unfortunately these positions are politicized. So being that I believe that you are a man of your word, um I will see to it that you are reminded of that. Yes, definitely. Thank you.
Now we are going back to councelor Fantes or she want to state something that happened at the personal committee meeting. Thank you. Um through you council president going back to my colleagues from district A's concern regarding a subordinate who is running for for
mayor. That question did was was brought up to the during the personnel discussion. Uh we engaged in a discussion as to how would the the chief if confirmed um handle if if the
administration were to treat this ind individual unfairly? And also on the flip side, how would the chief if confirmed um handle a situation if this individual were to be campaigning during during work hours? So, we did cover that
from both ends and um you answered it very greatly and I appreciate well I know the committee appreciated the the answer that you provided us. Thank you. Now, now uh now we would like to open up the floor to you and provide you with an
opportunity to Thank you. Thank you, counselor. And to the followers, Mr. Chairman and and counselors and through the chair, I would like to really apprec uh show my appreciation to everybody who showed up and all the kind words. I'd like to thank my family, my
wife Jennifer, my son Ryan, my son Tyler, and my daughter Sophie, who was looking to say a couple words, but she had she didn't get a chance. Um, a lot of very nice things were said about me, but I think it's because I'm I'm the person standing up here. Everything that
was said about me could be said to any firefighter in this room or on the job. We have a extraordinary fire department and every it's it's their life. They they go above and beyond in everything they do. So all those kind words that
you know are really overwhelming to hear from myself, they could be said about any of the members of the Lawrence Fire Department. And us as a city is is very lucky. Um we have a lot of leaders at every single rank. We have leaders that are civilians, firefighters,
lieutenants, captains, deputies. There's, you know, um, if lucky to be confirmed, I do not have to do this alone as, as I, we have a a great fire department, the Lawrence Fire Department. We're we're well respected
across this this um across Massachusetts and we're just going to look to improve it. Make sure that we're say staying safe and make sure that we're re really reaching out to the community. We want to do a lot better educational component
and get out there. was, as I said before, I'm a little bit from a prevention background, and I think that's, you know, an an ounce of prevention is worth, you know, a a pound and and everything. It's it's a big part of what we need to do is prevention in
in the city. All right. U any other questions from the counselors? Uh, council president. Um, and I know that uh, and correct me if I'm wrong, uh, we're not able to add
anything to the contract now. No, we are we no the the Let's ask the the the city chair. I would I would like Yes.
Thank you. That's what I Let's ask the city. Um, could you add anything you could? I mean, we negotiated it back and forth, so it puts him at a disadvantage at this point because you can say, "I would like to add this." He's now here for
confirmation. He pretty well couldn't tell you to go jump in a lake. Um, that he didn't like it because he has no power right now. So, I would suggest I think the contract is complete. Um, I would not want to amend at this point. you do have the right to, but I'm just saying from his standpoint, you could
ask for anything at this point, and it really doesn't give him a chance to respond. attorney uh and thank you for that uh for for clarifying that. But my concern is uh actually Captain Delaney and making sure that when um this
community meetings and other uh community meetings to attend, he's not going to get a hard time not only from this mayor, from any other mayor that may come this way. Um I think we put them in a hard in a difficult position
because it's sometime is uh they I mean the major orders then or any major because I'm not going to use it happened before and it's happening now and it it may continue happening but how can we uh
um help the chief because I know Captain Deleni he calls people and he likes to be present. I know that I have worked with him. Uh uh I'm a business owner and he has respond my calls and my friends
calls. I know uh the type of work in and and that he does. But I also know that we have a we don't want him in a difficult position and and he understands what I'm trying to say. This has nothing to do with him.
Uh for the people that are here and are watching, we just want to prevent that situation from happening, the community has their right to listen from the fire chief and from the f uh from the police chief. It's their right, they are paying
their salary. No mayor has the right to deny the community of that. So I'm asking here and I don't want to uh postpone. There's a lot of people in his supporting hand. The community uh
the community agrees with this nomination. But how can we help the chief the future chief of the fire department? Well, I think you could sign his contract.
Ah, without that without that. Okay. If if you if you sign a contract, he has a threeyear contract. We are not negot we are not here. I don't think none of the contract I understand what I'm I'm trying to answer your question. Okay. I if I don't like what he's wearing
today and he doesn't have a contract, I can fire him today. No. But if he has a contract, there's only specific reasons that he can be disciplined, he can be in trouble for. So that's why we give our leaders these contracts. I completely understand why we signed contracts. Attorney, thank you for
reminding us about the importance of contract. What I want to uh make sure uh happen is that we don't put him in a difficult situation when it comes to uh community meetings, community me
engagements. That's what I want to make sure I I'm not advocating for my district. I'm advocating for all the counselors. They are not in the mayor's list and and who is paying the price the
voters, the community members. You don't need to answer that. Don't make excuses. I just I just my opinion. Uh can we uh and maybe correct me if I'm wrong. Um can can we vote in favor of this
contract and add and request clause? No. At this point, we are in the process of the confirmation. Do you, Mr. President, an amendment to the contract will uh will need the mayor's signature. Okay. And the mayor is not here. It's a matter of getting the chief would like for
address. Yeah. I mean, I I understand the issue and um if confirmed, I'm going to lead with integrity and as I've stated before, being at your community meetings is is very important and and that's what I'll do. That's what I that's what I intend
to do. I I have I believe I have the right to go to those community meetings and um I don't believe that I should be stopped from by anybody in the city whether it's the firefighters, whether it's another council member or something. I I truly feel that it's it's
a very important as I said before you guys are direct link to the your constituents. the people who attend your community meetings are the people who care the most about that about our city. And anybody would be uh not leading in a
correct way or not doing the right thing just by not not going there. And I I wouldn't think that is right. And standing here in front of you, I make a commitment that I I will go to these meetings. And I and I Captain Chief, I know you're
talking from your heart. I know you well and I I know uh your years of service and I know you're talking from your heart and you mean well. I'm not concerned about you. Not at all. I'm concerned about the mayor Brian Dee. That's what is my concern.
Thank you. All right. Uh uh now we are we are about to close the uh the discussion. We have Oh, councelor Santiago, you have I have you on the list.
Yes. I forgot to answer the question. It's about we are very lucky to have very firefighter men, handsome, tall, and strong. But but I am wondering about women.
Thank you. We want to rec we want to do something to recruit women on the firef fire department. Thank you, council. I I agree. That also came up at the personnel meeting and I think some people watched us on TV as we got a couple of uh people coming in, some
female candidates coming in and and I did meet with them on the la the second day and uh we're we're going to help them take the test. And I think I said one of the problems is the um females are really not applying to take the test. That the newest batch that they
were we've been hiring we've had about 20 25 applicants and in the top 25 there really hasn't been any females to to go after um and we have to recruit them. We were just talking that Northern Essex is
doing something in the fall, uh, you know, recruitment for jobs and stuff like that and we attend it every year and we've been talking this year about tailoring a little bit, maybe take some of our female firefighters. We do have a few females on the fire department. One
is one of our leaders, one is a captain, Captain Tara Reen. Um, so we we do have some females and we'd be more than happy to to get some more, but as I said before, we have to go recruit them. We have to go make it make it so they they
want to do this job, and I'm willing to do that. Thank you. I would happy to see that. Thank you. Are we ready in the city of Lawrence uh to receive a a good amount of women? because that's a question that Yeah, you know, we we've been ready probably uh Captain Reen's probably been
on about 22 years, 23 years. So, we made that adjustment a long time ago. We did have an another female, Doris Sanziani, and she actually ended up going to Massport and she's a deputy chief doing very well over there. She still comes
back to uh a lot of our engagements, a lot of our our parties. Um, so right now we have two, but again we're we're willing to go out there, but we have to recruit them. And that's where again I'd probably ask for the council's help in reaching out. And we have a we have a
firefighter entry exam coming up um August 28th. And right now, um, we have, thanks to our discussion at the personnel committee, we've had a couple people come by and and we're going to assist them. I introduced one of them to
councelor Fonte and we're gonna you know assist that member which is an ex-military um female and we also have another uh another female Diana who works at Fire Alarm and and she's uh hopefully about to become a firefighter
too. So I'd I'd engage you all in assisting the law assisting the Lawrence Fire Department to go recruit some more females because there we'd be happy to have them. Right. Uh now I would like to say a few things. It is the discussion
of today around uh your confirmation has been uh everywhere and everywhere but uh your your credentials and it it is unfortunately because uh we we we
missing this opportunity. Yep. because of an issue that happened uh throughout. Thank you. Uh we're missing the uh we're missing this opportunity of of engaging with you uh when it comes
to this important position and when it comes to what you can do to lead the department. Instead uh we are talking about uh the issues that we facing because yes many particular situation but more
importantly the situation related to uh uh you being engaging with the with the public and a specific meetings not all but a specific meetings that are related to specific counselors. And uh it is unfortunately that this is happening
because we have a great opportunity uh here to engage the community and uh engage the firefight with the community and allow the community to understand how the comm that uh the firefighter works
and and and and how we can help as a community to be able to prevent fire or to be able to uh to do anything. Uh few month ago we have a fire and there was a um a person that went over uh to the
fire to a tent uh to help bring water, bring everything uh to help out uh you guys because of the service that you guys provide. The firefighter department is essential to any community, but to
Lawrence, it is a key uh component to ensure that the this public safety is up there. When we are when we going around to ask for a vote, we always talk about public safety.
And and is it is it is funny because some politicians, they don't even relate to it after they get elected. uh and it it is something that is is happening uh throughout the city of Lawrence at with the at this situation
at this point we we should be taking an opportunity to engage you are u now there was a question very important question when it comes to female um and we need to engage into that a lot more this was an opportunity for people to
look at this meeting and understand how the firefighter works the schedule the payments the age limitation if it is any and Lawrence that is not there is some communities that there is some limitation when it comes to aging u we don't have that so people can apply for
the firefire without having that age limits that a lot of communities within Massachusetts have we're not taking this opportunity I I believe we do have age limits counselor I I believe it's 32 you can't come on Lawrence I believe is one of the communities you can
we'll we'll we'll go back on that True. I don't think we do. U we we we can definitely have entertain that discussion. But I mean some somehow one way or another uh we have a great opportunity. We got a
great person. I made my decision when it comes to your boat. Uh because I asked three specific question to your son Taylor. Uh Tyler. Yeah. And and he gave me the answer. When I came out of that specific event that it
was a a public and and and community event that I was able to speak with him, I asked him to tell me three reason as to why I should be voting for you. Yes. Because that is important too. The family men that is the firefighter chief
of the city of Lawrence have a that have a value and have a value on me. Thank you. And he gave me the answer. It was not quite what I was expecting, but it was an answer that it was a it was there. I went home, I thought about it, and I
made my own decision. I didn't ask you those questions because I knew Yeah. that everybody here was going to ask you questions. But the aspect of the family, the family man that is right there in front of us, that was important to me. That was extremely important to me. and uh and
and trust me uh we as a langian as a Lawren people that live here we need to engage into those conversation a little more. I'm going to leave you with one question that I don't need an answer now. Okay. But eventually when we have an
opportunity to speak um I would like you to uh talk about that and that's the residency requirement. Yeah. Um we has we've been discussing this since 2016
back then it was introduced to the city of Lance and to the council was an split decision at that moment the item stable at this at this at this point nine years later was still I was still thinking about that because that will shape
tremendously the the whole firefire you are from Armens uh you are you here in front of us and you and you live here. Uh essentially it is an importance to it. I don't need an answer now. It is a
controversial topic to a lot of people. It is clear to me. Yes, I still have that in my mind. I would like you to think think it through. I would like you to u uh analyze the situation. Okay. Uh last I would like to recognize uh the
uh the firefire union president that is here and the former president that is also here. Uh at least two of them might know. Uh thank you for that. Uh the fire the firefight union.
Two formers at least. Yeah. some of them. Two formers. So, thank you all for for support and and definitely appreciate you uh captain and and um
chief in the future. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, council president. At this point, I from the council side, I'm going to close the discussion, but uh acting chief Delaney, I will give you if you have any closing remarks that you want to say, I'll give you the opportunity. If not, we will call call
the question. And in closing, I'd just like to reiterate that uh it's it's not just about me. It's about the Lawrence Fire Department. We have hard men and hardworking men and women that um do this job every day. It's taxing. It's
it's dangerous at time. I mentioned before um they make great sacrifices. Sacrifices, you know, to their families, to times, um to their bodies. firefighters right now are, you know, one and um one and one in four, one in
three are getting are getting cancer when opposed to civilians, one in seven and it's a lot of PAS or gear where they're sacrificing a lot. They see a lot on a daily basis. They they you know they really give a lot to this
community. Again, everything that was said about me could be said about every single, you know, one of our members of the Lawrence Fire Department. That's a 100%. Thank you. At this point, Madame Clerk, I'm actually going to ask you to call
the role. Councelor Levy, yes. Council Lant, yes. Council Luzon, yes. Council Del Rosario, yes. Council Santiago, yes. Council Marmal, yes. Council Reyes, yes. Council President Rodriguez,
yes. Council Vice President Infante, yes. Motion carries. Heat. Heat. Motion to resist. Motion to resist. Motion to resist properly.
Second. Properly second. All those in favor, please say I. I. Have it. Good evening, uh, counselors. Brian Carrian, attorney for the, uh, uh, the applicant. Um, I'm from 122 Chestnut
Street and Mass. I represent Senos Basketball Incorporated. Uh with me tonight uh are the principles of SWOOS, Jose and Jackie Delone who are here with as you can see uh many of their um uh patrons and uh the the kids that are
part of the organization. Um as um uh councelor Marmal indicated uh this matter has gone through the housing subcommittee. Uh there was an RFP that was published uh earlier this year uh by the uh planning and community
development uh office. Uh Senos um submitted a proposal. I think there were two other proposals that was submitted. One I think was maybe for a car wash. One was for a an apartment complex. Uh the Sweenos uh proposal was uh the most
uh advantageous uh because the RFP was tailored for a youth athletic uh facility uh with with sort of an academic component which certainly um my client uh fits right into. So um counselors, you have I
believe the packet of material my client is proposing to acquire the property for $300,000. The minimum bid was 270,000. Uh they've already put down 30,000. They have over 300,000 in the bank to uh complete the acquisition.
Um if the council approves this RFP uh and the disposition and sale uh to SWOS, uh we will begin the uh due diligence process. We'll do some um site work to make sure that the property is not contaminated. uh we will begin the
zoning process right away because what is being proposed is an athletic uh facility which is not permitted by right in the zoning district. So we're going to be going through the zoning board of appeals, the planning board. Uh I do not believe that we're going to have to go through conservation. I don't think
there are any wetlands involved, but certainly there will be uh quite a bit of zoning relief involved. So this is all going to take some time. Uh in the meantime, Suenos will be working on the financing of the uh the building. Um uh
there is a um uh a house bill that was uh approved through in this most recent uh budget um review process at the state level. Um H5100 I believe is is uh is the name of the bill. Uh in that bill,
um there's an allocation specifically for Swenos basketball in a youth athletic facility whereby the state has set aside at least $5 million uh for that project. Um I had the opportunity to speak with uh state representative
Moran earlier today. He indicated to me that all that's required at this point is the signature of the governor, which he has confidence will be forthcoming. Uh certainly no guarantees uh no guarantees at all in in in life, but certainly that money has been uh set
aside and allocated for uh Swenos basketball in this particular project. Uh and we're very confident that uh with the state funding and then with private um charitable contributions that uh Swenos will be able to build a
beautiful uh athletic facility uh for um uh its members. And I'm not sure if you have the packet of material um with you tonight, but certainly it was submitted to the council with all
the architectural plans and um uh engineering uh work. And I'd be happy to answer any questions about the proposed um uh building, the RFP or anything else that the council may uh uh wish to inquire about tonight. You you mentioned about
the finance and you also mentioned the airmarks that is related to this project. Uh for the purpose of the purchasing the property, you also mentioned that the the finance is available in the bank for this uh
specific disposition and subsequently paying the city correct $300,000. Is that what you say? That is correct. and and uh at the personal subcommittee, I did submit copies of my client's uh bank statement uh at the time. I do have some copies of
that same uh statement. There's over 300,000 in the account. Uh the balance owed to the city is 270 because 30,000 is already being held. So, the the funds are there to acquire the property. That could be done very quickly. Again, once
we do a little bit of due diligence, I'll be doing uh, you know, some title title work to make sure that the title to be delivered by the city is going to be clear. They're closing the closing stuff, right? Typical uh typical set of uh closing requirements. I I anticipate we could
probably close in 60 or 90 days. And we'll be working with the city attorney's office on that if all goes well tonight. Um and then from there again zoning um at least on my end and then my clients will be working
diligently on the financing component for the building. Final place. Um well finance is all set and that was one of the question. Um council there's any question council president?
Thank you. My question is to you, council president. So the the the earmark that that the Senate put through or or the state put through, it says here not less than $5 million. You said that they were awaiting the
governor's signature. So what happens if the governor because we have to think of all the options. What happens if the governor does not sign this this earmark? uh if the governor does not sign then we're moving on to plan B which may be 100%
financing through charitable contributions which is which is how SUOS operates currently. Uh obviously this is a major step forward and up for SUOS in terms of uh um you know monetary
commitment for its its its mission. Um but they're very confident. Uh it's a very uh well-run, respected, popular organization. I think the state um allocation is reflective of of how uh uh
important this organization is to just to more than the city. And so they're very confident that they'll find a way to get the the money. Uh and of course there may be some some bank financing involved but we you can't put the cart before the horse. Uh we have to get this
process completed and then move into the uh the financing of the project. If for whatever reason the financing of the project falls through then of course you know the we would not be able to move forward and and the city would we'd have
to sell the property back to the city at that point. But uh I'm not anticipating that um doomsday scenario arising. Um there's a tremendous amount of support for Suenos and um they have full confidence they
wouldn't be putting all this effort into it if they didn't think that they could get this building uh constructed. attorney continue. I wanted to make sure that we do um we're losing zone. Uh we do have a specific language that is uh added to
the motion that it was proposed. Madame Clair, do you mind reading the uh specific language that is needed for that uh for the disposition? As Shalinet and I can both attest, if we don't put this language in the motion, then we get beat up by the city attorney's office later. So, um, the
conditions on a sale have to be stated in the vote. So, council Mama has a motion to approve and we're adding with the conditions and the conditions that I understand is as a sale of 389 Water Street to Sweno's basketball for the amount of $300,000 pursuant to the term
stated in the RFP for a youth sports facility with an education component. And then I just this one I want to clarify um in the minutes that came out of the subcommittee it said with a construction to begin within what construction to be completed within one
year from the start of construction. So that was the fifth um condition. So those are the five conditions that we have. The five condition will be that once they start that they have to finish within a year for they they don't have to after zoning and when they start the
construction once they begin the construction not not like you know a year from today. Yeah. Uh council is is the language the work has to be completed or has to be started within a year. No, it's completed once you start it. It says
completed within a year after you start. Development must be completed within one year of the day the construction starts. That's what Thank you. And just u to clarify um attorney I still I still have the floor.
Um, attorney Corgan, I understand that this is the first process and that financing is the second, but questions like this is part of my job to ask. This is part of the process. Understood. Um, and I also on the flip side, I in my
district, St. Patrick's built a beautiful school and most of the funds if not all were all due to contributions that you know efforts that that they that they made with that. So I know it's possible. It's a lot of work. I know
it's possible but I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask about the govern governor's portion. Understood. And it is important to recognize councelor question that that for the port for the purchase of these of the lands uh they're not just accounting on
that air marks that they have finance to do the closing uh separate councelor ll plan councel levy so uh it's just a clarification you said that construction need to finish one year after they started
but how long they have to start the construction we don't establish that okay So it could be in six months and then after six month they they have a year to finish. Uh but it it could be longer. It could be a couple of years
from now. Yeah. That based on the condition that you guys put on. Yeah. It's um it's it's it's difficult to say councelor Levy uh because uh we only know so much about the land. Um there
will be some uh due diligence done on um the environmental side of things before uh Swainos takes title. So we'll we'll probably do a phase one uh environmental uh site assessment just to make sure that whatever use may have been there in
the past didn't contaminate the property or if it did contaminate the property that it can be remedied um in a feasible economical way. And then of course we we go into the zoning uh process which can take time. Um
uh it takes time to prepare the application to get on the agenda. Sometimes the meetings get cancelled. Sometimes matters get tabled. Sometimes people come in and the butters complain. You know that process could take several months. And then um typically uh when a
a zoning decision is uh granted, whether it's a variance or a special permit, the the those boards uh set a one-year uh deadline for start of construction. So there there are lots of timelines uh set
already in the law that applies here. Um and we're going to try to move as fast as we can um to try to get this project completed. Council President Council uh councelor Santiago and then councel
I have a question maybe for shining h the question that I have is when this process start for apply for the property therapy process therapy that's a good question I may not have
that answer for you I mean we have we've had this property for some time now it's been on our city property list. Um, interested in the RFP. Oh, the RFP. Good question. Trying to think of the You have the You
have the dates. We have an So, we have an opening and close date of the RFP. It's usually 30 days. The proposals were due March 28th. So, it must have been published in February. Yes. So February 28th was the opening day and March 28th was the closing day
at 11 o'clock. Is it 11 or 1? 11 11 a.m. 11 a.m. at the city clerk's office. Okay. The question that I made is because I receive phone call from my constituent
and they request and usually even in the subcommittee one of the constituent speak in public participation Bill Colling
he was wondering as well about the the property was h open for for the the property for sale on February, but in December on
Christmas, the mayor Brian de Pñena offered the property to SWO basketball and that's why I answered the day how he can
offer the property before they made the process. Does my constituent ask me? I mean, I can't speak on behalf of the mayor um on his comments. I I can answer your your question directly with the opening and
closing of that date. I'm not too sure. I wasn't present. I I I don't know when the banquet was held. I hear about it. I I don't know the answer to that question. I do know that there was three applications and from the three
applications the only advantage the only application that fit the criterias that was set by this council was SUO's basketball. Okay. And I I have to do the question because my constituent request me
but on behalf of the basketball I feel so proud of the organization because I among of the player and it is frustrated how they have practiced one day in one
place in one school and right away they have to change the place because the school is not able to do the practice and it is frustrated for the kicks as well and and I am in favor of that but I
have to make the question that a constituent made it valid. Thank you for the question. Uh, councelon. U, thank you, council president. And, uh, unfortunately, well, yes, we we had to
address our constituent's concern. Absolutely. And my question is for the attorney. Is the attorney here? He is. Oh, he left. Not not you, Brian. The city is at the city attorney. Attorney's my favorite attorney. The only one.
So, and knowing the history of Suenos's basketball because I know their history. I I I was present when they started and I know their struggle and their challenges and how difficult was for
them to begin. And but my question is the comment made by the mayor and that event that yes, it happened. we all uh saw uh or a video or
something. Will that bring a conflict to the organization? Let's say that someone decides to write to the ethics commission or to another state organization. Uh will that bring a
bring a conflict at some point? No. Um let let's get one thing clear. The mayor can promise the moon to anybody. He doesn't have the legal right to do it. This property does not get
transferred to Suenos unless you vote. Not the mayor. You vote. You are in charge. So I can promise them anything. It's what it is. It's a in the air promise. I can make statements. I can
express my belief. It has no legal ramifications. what has legal ramifications is what's the process and the process is that this city council has the power and says who gets that property and I'll have and I was part of
the the advisory committee that reviewed the three um proposals and clearly this was the best proposal the other two didn't even come close so it wasn't the mayor in that meeting it was us in the committee that looked at all three proposals so
again the mayor can state as opinion. You can state your opinion. You can say Swenos is a wonderful organization. I hope they get this, but it has no legal effect. The city council vote right now is the only legal process. And but in reality, he didn't say that. He was very specific. Just for the record,
my other cons question is um Hey, hey, hey. Yes, council president. You have the Thank you. Now I forgot my question. Thank you, council president.
Ah, you see, we are nice people. You're very nice people. So, let's have the Let's uh I'm going to go back. Let's give the opportunity to know the conversation. Let's ask that uh the representative of SWO's basketball, not the attorney, the
people. Mhm. To that shiny. Well, just just talk to us. You guys don't want to talk to us. I don't know why you guys send an attorney here when you guys are familiar faces with us.
I don't think they want to talk. That's fine. No, no talking. What do you want us to talk about? I mean you guys are running an organization for so many years. Sell yourself. Tell us why do you believe we
should vote in favor of the disposition of this property? That's the bare minimum. Not an attorney. Every time we talk to an attorney is a legal thing is like doesn't feel the same. Yes. Well, the reason that I believe that you should allow us to buy that
property is not because of us but because all Exactly. That's what we want to hear. Because they deserve to have a place. Because this is not about us. It's No, we we got you, you know. Yeah. Because they deserve to have a place
instead of us run going to different places and never have a home and we can do a lot more and they can be the one running the property. I mean the the organization. That's our goal that you know we owed. We're going to retire but we want them to continue. So we
don't want them to have the struggle that we had. Councelor Councelor de Rosario. Thank you to I remember a few years ago when you guys did the dinner. It was winter time and it was right by the
church on Jackson Street. If it was 10 of us in there, it was a lot of people and nobody offer you a building. And Donire was asking that his dream was to actually build this complex and have that for the kids. And that was about what how many years ago? And it
was a big snowstorm. I remember nobody showed up. It was just 10 of us eating a simple dinner with the kids while you were telling us what were you dreaming of. And today Yes. Go ahead. Eight years ago. That was like eight years ago. That was the second um Christmas dinner.
Yeah. And it was a big snowstorm while you were telling us what your dream was for those kids. And now we have the opportunity to maybe give you the opportunity to get that dream that you had for those kids regarding regardless of what happened because nobody go back eight years ago
when nobody offer you anything. You just had a dream for those kids and now you have the opportunity to maybe starve to fulfill those dreams. And that's why from the get-go I I was in support of this regardless of where the money come from cuz I was there when
you guys were dreaming of this again. Big snowstorm. You were asking for $10 donation for a dinner and and and like 20 people the most showed up because it was a big snowstorm and that was the beginning to me. That was the beginning of this dream. And I always ask I was praying for you guys too and I have the
opportunity to maybe vote in favor of this and be part of this dream that you guys are dreaming back eight years 10 years whatever you started ago. So I'm in full support of this full support of the kids and and and and you guys are almost there and I know my colleagues regardless of the questions they have
they all support basketball. So hopefully we can get this done tonight. Council council president council president. Thank I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to for what you guys do. um recently you've invited most of the
city councilors who were still in in Lawrence during during our break to visit Suenos and I had I was fortunate to to have two visits within the same week and and I know as a counselor probably you know you shouldn't be
emotional but the second visit I left there very emotional because it got real with the student with with your with your student athletes and I actually gained a a mentee from that visit and I met with her for the first time this week and
she's amazing and I look forward to helping her accomplish her goals and just being that that role model for her and if it wasn't for that visit I wouldn't have I wouldn't have met her and and learned about her her goals outside of so basketball. Um so thank
you for what you guys are doing. This is more than just basketball. It's it's a place for for the kids. is a family and they definitely um are grateful for that. Thank you. Thank you, Council LMO. Uh through you, Council President. Um I
think it's important for me to speak on behalf of this item considering that it is in my district. Um, I specifically mentioned early on that I way before I even knew about uh potentially this organization being promised or not
promised, I've always seen my district wanting to continuously advocate for youth programs and youth facilities. So, seeing that this property was available, I made sure to advocate and take advantage of this opportunity to make
sure that it was a a specific language put in place to ensure that this specific parcel was meant for that. Um, I've also had the delight of experiencing uh the program uh due to your invitation and I had an amazing
time uh with the kids and it is it touches you in a way and it's like a soft spot and it makes it easier um as a counselor and being in a position of influence and and power to make decisions. And to me, I I feel like I'm
not going to lose any sleep with knowing that this facility is going to go towards this specific organization and knowing the the amount of students that you guys continuously help throughout the city. Um, I do feel like I need to
ask one question to Attorney Coran. Um and it is the the major component in terms of why this uh parcel has become such a contentious topic and it is the funding. Is there uh some sort of reason
that you could provide to us explaining why the governor has yet to sign this? Because we've we've been at this for over a month, two months at this point. So, if you could kind of give details as to why the governor has yet to sign it.
What is the delay? Um, just out of curiosity, if you could give a little detail. Um, I I wish I could I wish I could tell you more um about how these types of things work behind the scenes on on Beacon Hill. Um, all that I can say is
that I have been in regular communication with uh, Representative Moran, who uh, tells me he's very confident that this will be um, this will be signed by the governor, that the money will be made available. Um, I think that
perhaps the representative Moran is waiting for this process to unfold because it there's no sense in allocating 5 million or 6 million or whatever to Swain Basketball when they don't have
a piece of land that they can build on. So, I I think this this process unfortunately has to unfold. I wish we had the ability to call the governor and maybe get get her on uh the Zoom. Um she'd be the only one who could say, you
know, whether this is going to happen. Um you know, I I did, you know, the the the um the state budget process just closed recently, just the way that uh you know, fiscal year uh uh started in Mass just
as it did in Lawrence recently. And uh I know that this particular allocation did make it through uh the cuts. There were other many other projects that were cut out of uh H5100. So so this is a it is a priority. It
appears to me to be a priority project for the state. Um but uh Representative Moran made it very clear to me that you know in in my discussions with the council tonight to make sure it was very clear this there there are no guarantees in anything but I know he's fighting for
this. Uh I know that the other uh uh members of the state delegation are all going to be really behind this. I hope everybody here also expresses to the governor the importance of of this project. So I think based on that uh I I
I think this is going to it's going to get done but unfortunately we do not have like a commitment letter from a bank and nor would you get a commitment letter from a bank until you have a purchase and sale agreement. So we got to get we got to sort of follow the process here. um approve the
disposition, uh start moving forward, get the purchase and sale agreement um uh prepared and executed, and then from there, I think it's up to our our our local representatives to push this over the finish line, uh get the governor to
to make this commitment. Uh so I wish I could I wish I could give you more of like a process, but I'm not I'm not that familiar with that process. Council President, Councelor Rees, and then Council Mu and then councelor Luzon. Sorry.
Uh, thank you, Council President. Uh, now for Ryan, just a comment for Seno basketball because I know uh you guys working very hard to to be in this moment today. I'm so happy uh to to see
what is what we can moving forward this kind of project for our youth because it's not a dreaming starting yesterday. It's a lot of commitment. It's a lot of dedication. Uh it's working very hard to find our place to our youth. I'm so
happy to to be today in this position. I love to to to voting uh to support to moving forward because what uh Brian mentioned when we don't have the parcel we don't have another commitment that's
the first step I see I'm so happy thank you to see this project moving forward and u thank you I have a few questions not for Jacqueline and Don I wanted it's for the attorney thank you Jackie I know you
wanted to go back and sit. All right. Uh and or for selen I don't know which one it is. So we don't know what we have in that land. Is that land contaminated? Are we aware of any contamination?
There is no such thing. Um selenal shal sorry are we aware of any contamination on this land? I'm not aware of any contamination on the land. Um the
properties that we sell through these processes are asis and so those are some of the risks that um purchaser may may have when they purchase these properties. So who will be responsible to clean it if there's any contamination in that land?
Like I said, it's asis. So anything past the sale is the responsibility of the purchaser. That is concerning. There's no such thing as contamination in the land. Uh but we don't know council president because we are not an experts. No, but the previous use of the land.
What was the the previous use of the land if I may ask? Um we don't know for certain. Oh, you guys don't know. It's been vacant. It's been vacant for decades. uh the DPW use it uh to have all the leads
uh being transported from the city and they keep it as a transfer station uh uh to for the leads when they pick it up every week and then also when they have when they cut a tree they bring it up to that location. If anything, the use of
that parcel previously will help uh when it comes to no contamination because they have they have just leads and and uh and trees. I I I think I have the floor. Thank you, Council President. Yeah. No, but I mean I'm I I you do have
the floor once we finish up the clarification of what we're discussing. So, Council Luc, I just want to make something clear that um if if uh there's any contamination found, well, it it depends on the degree uh to which it's found,
uh if it's going to uh make this project uh not economically feasible for Senos. They're not going to buy it. The the purchase and sale will be terminated and and this will just be done. The city's going to have to deal with that issue before the property could be sold. I
I just want then to be aware of that. Uh because and I'm assuming you guys are you are listening to what they just said. They they don't even know what is in that land that the city is selling to you. So keep that. I think it should be
part of uh it should be under in the contract or something because um making their the van responsible for cleaning something it's going to cost a lot of money and I don't think they are in a financially in that position from my
perspective that's uh one question uh a concern that I have a concern that I have uh selling a piece of land to a nonprofit uh that doesn't have a lot uh
financially speaking, it's it's concerning. Um knowing how much it costs to clean a contaminated piece of land. My other question is you mentioned attorney. Thank you, Charlene. Thank you
so much. You mentioned that that they getting funds from the state and with that they're planning to build this project. So that's what you mentioned attorney
uh the state the state uh funding is is is hopefully one component of the financing. There will be private uh financing as well through charitable contributions uh similar in similar fashion to the um the St. Patrick's uh
uh Catholic school that councelor Infante was talking about. And then there may be some bank financing involved. You know, they might may have to get a loan for for some component of the of the of the construction costs. So So we basically using public funds to
build this project. some or the majority of public funds to build this project. Uh well the in in the packet you see the proforma I think that's estimated to be somewhere between like 11 and $13 million is what it's going to cost to
build. So if the state provides five um that's that's a little under 50%. The rest would have to come from private contributions and and and bank financing. what will happen if
the nonprofit and I wish them well. Uh I both I know both of the uh founders uh all of the founders I know I wish them well but I have to ask this question.
What will happen if Suenos uh disappear? Do they they will need to sell this to another nonprofit or sell it back to the city? because we're talking about uh public funds here. Uh and I'm knowing
some of the local nonprofits, I know that sometimes it has to be sold to another nonprofit in the in their contract. Uh so we're talking about a lot of public funds here. So will do
that the organization took that in in consideration or there's or or we don't have nothing a say on that. Um I do not believe that that there was any language in the RFP. Mhm. Um but there certainly could be a
condition of your approval that uh the property uh be sold with a deed restriction that it could only be uh owned uh and operated by a nonprofit. So, at some point, you know, Jose
and and Jackie may decide that they can't keep keep doing it and they don't have somebody to take it over. And, you know, maybe the Boys and Girls Club buys the place and operates it, or maybe the YMCA or the YW.CA buys it and operates
it. Um, or maybe some other uh charitable organization. um that can certainly be written into the that can be written into the deed. Um but if a a nonprofit without a deed restriction, a nonprofit could sell the
land um but they can't use the profits for anything other than their nonprofit mission. Uh so it's it's completely up to this this uh uh this organization to uh set those restrictions. Um
uh and and it would I we would have no problem if you basically tried to limit what could be done there because I I know you don't want to see some sort of obnoxious commercial use there. Well, what I also know, Attorney Carrian, is that
nonprofits, they tend to change, and I know we're not going to be here forever. Uh we have an expiration day, all of us. And I and the board can change and board are they tend to change and with
that mission and vision that usually change. So I just want to make sure that uh the funds that this organization is getting from the uh taxpayers are protected. Um that's what I want to make
sure. Um Shalina, you wanted to ask something? I I wanted to I'm not sure if this helps uh clarify your question or your concerns, but the so the use of the property when we first detailed that this RFP was going out was for a youth
development with an educational component. And that's going to be for the life of the property, for the life of that parcel. So you're not going to see an obnoxious car wash or a bodega there or a house there. We actually made
a very specific no housing there. Um, councelor Marmal asked uh very specifically for this parcel to be dedicated for youth development with an educational component for the life of the property. But you understand where I'm coming from about maintaining
uh making sure that this property if it sell in the future stays under another nonprofit. I don't want them to sell it. I'm not I wish them well. I I I I wish them the best. Uh in the and in the event that
in the event that something happens because nonprofits are also businesses. Yes. Uh rest assured profits. Rest assured, counselor Luzon, um that the life of the property will be a youth development with an educational
component and that's written into the vote into the details of of this particular item. So I can guarantee you that. But and let's go back if I may, council president, to what I mentioned at the beginning, if
the land is contaminated, will the city help them in any way possible? Because that is it costs a lot of money to clean a piece of land. Let's say that that's something there. Will the city uh be able to help
them? I can't answer that question for sure. if the city can or is willing is two different things. Um there's EPA that could be involved. It could be done through the city. It could be done privately. I can't answer that question because we would have to cross that bridge
when we get when it gets here. Well, we should have crossed the bridge before selling the property. It's not something that 30B um requires of us. It's um as is. From my uh council president, I I know
you made a comment. I think uh knowing how much it costs to clean a piece of land, I'm I'm we're not sure. I'm just making an assumption here. Uh, I think the city
should uh be uh selling or knowing what we have there, but it could cost a lot of money for anyone uh to a nonprofit to a private uh buyer to
clean. This is just my my point of view. Uh also um my last question is if we getting public funds uh will be will this complex will be
available to other organizations uh if that a possibility. Oh, okay. See, thank you. organiz Can you can you translate that question in English?
Oh, yeah. Don, give me a minute. Can you No, you haven't. You didn't learn Spanish. Oh, no. I I I think I did. But I'm going to go over there. Oh, just start it first. Okay, I got you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. Amen. moral question.
that um um what I just said in English is that that question uh it was uh the intent of the question it was for the some of the constituents that have asked about the public funds that this organization is will receive hopefully I
know you guys will uh that the organization the complex will also be available ailable according to what Don M explained uh will be available to others because they know what it uh they understand and
they have have a lot of challenges and they have used other facilities uh and it's their moral responsibility to the community to give back. Uh I think I summarized what you just said. Thank you. Thank you for your answer and that
that will be all my questions. Councelor Santi. Uh, any other questions before I go to councelor Santiago? Councelor Santiago, just I want to add a comment about Don said basketball has different they they
are not just basketball. They are they are doing another program like mental health program, art program. Another program that I made is a leadership program for the kids in our
community. That's excellent program that I'm so proud of them. And the the the main things that I really impressed me
was like a mon. I am talking like a monk now. was when you request to my kids uh to get certificate from the school because you are h worry
about the grades as well just not the basketball or not the sport and the kids need both to get to be great person and great sport. Yeah, that's I want to add it to Don said.
Thank you. Any other questions, counselor? All right. At this time, uh uh all the questions around the finance uh has been set. Uh the finance is available. Uh if any, if the air marked is not available,
the finance to purchase the property is available with them. And at this time, I'll call the questions. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? There have it. Congratulations. Thank you. The next
anything else? Oh, yeah. The next counselors, can I get a motion to motion to pass 10? Motion to pass 10. Motion to pass. Motion to pass 10. that properly second. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it.
counselors, can I get a motion to unte it 23325? Oh, we still have time. Yeah, we still have time. No, a motion pass then. No, they they
were during the day. All right, counselors. All right. Item uh 23325. Can I get a motion to on table? There's a motion to on table item 2335. the reviewer appro or and approval of
the annual application to the hub for the community development block grant CDBGs and for the home grants. Uh there's a motion to to on table properly second discussion that is none. All those in favor please say I
the eyes have it. Uh we have Susan Finn here with us. Susan, welcome back. Good evening councelors. Very exciting moment, right? It's been a very exciting night. Matter 233 the last day of matter.
Uh any questions? That is information that was sent. Thank you Sue. Uh thank you the departments for sending that information. It was related to the CDBGs. Uh I appreciate that you guys uh
took the time to resend it again. Um any questions in regard to that uh the approval of that uh and let's read the item for the record. Uh this is the review and approval of the annual application to the hub for the community development block grants DBGS and the
amount of 1,638713 and home grants uh in the amount of 835,894.17. uh these these CDBGs will uh will be used uh for the amount of 10% for the community uh uh community grants
right so admin so 10% of the CDBGs will be used for grant fund for the uh community organizations oh 15% 15% yes thank you for clarifying that uh last year we didn't do that this year
we're coming back to do that again yes uh and also This grant fund from homes uh will be used also to um promote different program including the first time home buyer which is for the amount of 100,000. Correct. Correct.
Anything else that we wanted to add discussion do that uh to this item discussion council plan. So I just to you council president I just want to thank you Miss Fank for being here tonight. You and it's important that we know this because we do have a lot of city employees that are dedicated that um that go above and
beyond. Miss Frink right now is on her vacation and she has been here tonight since before 7 o'clock because that's how important this is to get this thing passed. And I I I can't speak for anybody else, but I want to thank you for your dedication.
I want to thank you for being here. Um it wasn't going to be said. No one was going to know about it. It was just going to pass. You were going to go back to your vacation, but I think it needs to be said and so thank you for making a sacrifice tonight on for the city to make this happen. So, thank you very much. Thank you for your kind words
counselor Susa. Thank you so much uh uh for taking the time that is needed especially in the vacation time. Thank you counselor. Any questions counselors? At this point I'll call the questions. All those in favor please say I.
I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Thank you sir. Thank you counselor. Uh councelor de Rosario have have to uh leave the meeting due to personal matters. Uh well we go back to the top of the agenda and we have a couple of items
from uh ordinance that we have people visiting. Yeah but I mean we have people here sorry any questions for the city of Chenny or any specific item I have I'll be here for the housing but I'm also here
26625 longevity pay. Yes. Uh what happened here? We can uh entertain the rest the reming items from housing very quick. Uh let's go to Huh?
Yeah, but I mean we have two city employees from housing. They've been here since 7 in the morning. All right, we go to housing housing committee on top of the uh top of the agenda. Uh now item 20525.
Madame vice madame chair from the from the housing committee through you council president. Item 20525 the declaration of surplus property for 113 exchange street map 171 lot 56. This is through the home equity
theft act. Um this was uh discussed at the housing committee and uh we voted in favor uh of this item to come before the city council and I submit that to you in the form of a motion. Second. Um, there's a motion table probably. Second
discussion. Shallin. Uh, we want to table this item. It's still under the one-year redemption and so we're giving the homeowners some time to uh make their payment. All right. So, this is a a home. There is a 113 exchange rate. A motion to table.
Second. Motion to table. There is a motion to table for councelor Marmmo. Second by councelor Reyes. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Next item is 206 25. Item 20625, the declaration of surplus property of two Mosio View Place, map
69, lot 20. Um, this is through the home equity theft act. This was also discussed at the housing committee uh to which uh we voted uh with a favorable recommendation to be submitted to the full council and I submit that to you in the form of a motion. There's a motion on the table to declare
the surplus properly second. Discussion. I hear none. Councelor Levy second the motion. Uh, all those in favor, please say I. I. Have it. Item 20725. Item 20725, the declaration of surplus
property on 46 Cedar Street, map 168, lot 144 through the Home Equity Theft Act. This was discussed at the housing committee. Um, to which it was voted with a favorable recommendation to full counsel and I submit that to you in the
form of a motion. Second. Uh there's a motion on the table properly. Second discussion. I hear none. Um what did Charlene quick question? Yeah, you have a floor. Sure. Um the items 209, 210, 211, 212,
213, and 214 are the same property. It's a condo, so they have to be done separate. But if we can block them and maybe save some time. Oh yeah, we're not we're not there yet. 207. This is 46. I apologize.
Uh this is a bacon lot. Uh this item came out as as a committee report uh out of the committee, right? 207. Yes. 207 came out as a committee report.
It was Robert. Let me for the record, let me uh rectify my statements. Item 20725, the declaration of surplus property of 46 Cedar Street, map 168 lot 144 through the home equity theft act.
This was discussed at the housing committee and submit and voted uh to be submitted to full council um as a committee report and I submit that to you in the form of a motion. There's a motion uh a it's a committee report. Uh there's a motion uh to accept that as
a committee report properly second discussion there is none. The vote is to accept that as a committee report as a committee report. All those in favor please say I I have it. Now counelors, what's the motion? Motion to approve.
Second. There's a motion to approve properly second to approve the declaration of the surplus. Uh any any questions on this matter?
Uh Chelina, what is what's the intent for this for this uh for this use? Sure. So these properties under the home equity theft act um have to be done through a realtor and an appraiser. So it's going to be um fair market value is
what is the the regulations under the home equity theft act. Uh they have to do far fair market value best and highest use of the property. And that's not in my preview. It's going to be up to the realtor or the and the appraiser to come up with these numbers and the
procedure. And this is the way that the federal government wants us to do this. The state federal government, the fed. Yeah. Okay. All right. Any questions? Councelor Marmo.
Um, correct me if I'm I'm wrong and jog my memory a bit. The reason why we're submit this was approved to be submitted as a committee report. Um was it due to the fact that we had questions in regards to specifically um the process of how
um the the administration or whoever is tasked with doing the RFP process for the uh realtor or broker or what is the process in terms of how this is going to
be conducted? So, we're going to we're going to put that wasn't the reason why it came up as a committee report. It was because it's a rush because we have timelines and dates to to to meet and adhere to and I think we didn't have enough time to discuss it at the housing committee and that's why we sent it up as a or you guys sent it up as a
committee report. Um there were questions about the realtor process and the appraiser process and the RFP process. Um and we're going to be putting together an RFP. I'm already started to draft it with our procurement officer um to make sure that we put up that RFP following the RFP guidelines.
I'm not sure what specific questions you had about the RFP. So, I remember I had asked are we hiring one realtor that's going to uh be tasked with all the home equity theft act properties or are we uh are we doing an RFP process for each
individual property to each individual? I might know the answer, but I'm going to let the attorney. Right now, what we're doing was we're doing each individual property as they come up because we're under a timeline. We have to do the RF. We we want to get
we will have multiple realtors lined up but who respond and again there'll be different if it's a commercial property or a residential property. We'll have different realtors because different specialties. But that's the reason we're doing this right now is because just we we have two options. Option one is we keep the property. Option two is we put
it out. um option one in keeping the property we have to pay. We literally the the city has to come up with money. We don't have that ability right now to do that. So we're going with these properties for option two. So yes, we we have we've already done well it go it's more to the next agenda items. We've
already done one. We had it appraised had it because we were sued on that property and it turned out that we are in a negative. So we're all set. We don't have to worry about any damages in that. But yes, we in the future we're looking for an RP that would hire multiple people to do that, not just one
person to handle it. And hopefully we don't have that many. We try not to have these properties. I mean, it's we're we're basically our hand is forced when these people don't pay. But as the one you heard earlier that was tabled, it's because the owner came forward and said, "I'd like to pay the taxes." And believe me, the city wants wants them to hold
wants them to pay their taxes. All right. Any other questions, counselors? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Nice. Have it. All right. And 20725. No, sorry. 20925 through you, Council President. Am I
able to do this as a block since it's the same address? Um, well, I think we have to take individual vote. That's fine. Because it's a surplus declaration. All right. Uh, item number 20925, the declaration of surplus property of 63-65
Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-5 with the Home Equity Theft Act. This was um discussed at the housing committee and the recommendation was to submit this to full council as a committee report. I submit that to you in the form of a motion. There's a motion to accept it as a
committee report. Probably second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. And what's the motion? Council Wait, I I motion to approve. Can I hear a second? Properly second discussion. Councelor
Luzon. Uh, hi. Uh, thank you, Council President. Is that the lot near um LCW is on both? Yes. Is Is that the one? Yes. Okay. If I may, council president
councelor amina um attorney you can assuming and I make this assumption that there is going to be no no vote you can now assuming assuming you could take them all say I want to do 210 211 2123 214 if
however and then you take a vote on all of them if during that process someone votes no then you have to go back to originally but you can block this if you make as long as it's unanimous you can do the whole block. Yeah, we don't know that. So that's why he taken an individual. Okay. I'm just saying. Thank you.
All right. Uh councelors was the the motion is to approve properly second discussion. Question. No, no. I have a question. Council councelor Luzon. So my question is not we're voting for
um declaration of surplus. Can we uh request as a council uh based on the need of the neighborhood what we think it should be done there? Like ex for as an example parking lots.
I'm I'm pretty sure this will be used as a parking lot. But again, um if that's your wish that you you don't want development on this, you can make that a condition. Do you want to make that as a condition? Yes, I would like to do that. All right. Based on this, can we accept that as a friendly
amendment? Accepted as a friendly amendment with a condition of building a parking lot. All right. I got a question. I just have a question on the motion. So, this is for document 6365. Is it 20925?
Right. So, 6365 Newberry Street, of which there are six or seven of these items. So where's what what what my colleague is suggesting or making an amendment is that at that location and the only thing that's changing is the lot number 515 516 35116
is that each one of those parcels there's going to be parking or parking exclusively. It's one parcel. It's going to end up one parcel. We're doing this individually because we have to do that because of the the way the legislation reads that we have to because each individual condo which no
longer exists was taxed individually. We have to do this one after we're done here today. This is one lot. Yes. And let's put the point here is that that let's say when it becomes let's say we pass it becomes a one lot. What my colleague is is if we if we if we adopt the amendment
or if it's par it's going to be just parking. They're not going to put a building or structure unless it's a parking structure, but parking. Okay. You're gonna be used for parking because the condition that council what put as a friend amendment and council just accept it.
Just speaking for myself. I think what council has seen the law and understands this is between two giant brick buildings that have a parking. It is being used as a parking lot right now. It's probably best. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Question. All those in favor, please say I. Any
other questions? I like to hear it. Question. U um when you say no, when you say no build, do you mean a building or can they build a parking? They can. Uh I'm sorry. Uh I just want to clarify. The intent is to be used as a parking
meaning could be a parking lot or could be a garage. Okay. Yeah, that was my question just so I'm clear with everyone. It will be a parking. Fair enough. I've heard you counselor Lon on the parking. Thank you. Could we um through you council
president could we add that language for the entirety of Yeah, we have assuming that the intent is to but once you make the motion uh you can have that there. You can block it, put the language and vote unanimously. Yeah.
Yeah. We can we can just do it u as you as you put in the man with the condition. It has to be called for it doesn't counselor. Uh any other questions? I don't know. I got a I got a I got a question at some point. I I'd like to try the uh the Dim Hootin suggestion which is we block the
whole thing if we're going to be voting in favor of it and then if we we anticipating a vote. We just do it in one second is we anticipating a positive vote. What about if we somebody vote no? We're going to have to go back. Let's see who votes no on this one. If no one votes no on this one,
I could be vote on and and 21025. It's like it's like let's not anticipate things. Let's stop counting. Let's move on. All right. Item 20925. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 21025.
Item 21025, the declaration of surplus property of 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-6 through the Home Equity Theft Act. um discussed at the housing committee. Uh it was voted to refer this to the full council um as a committee
report and I would like to add the friendly amendment that is no no first a committee report and then we put the motion to the subclaration. Uh can I submit that to you in the form of a motion? There's a motion on the table properly. Second discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say for the committee
report the eyes have it. Uh madame madame chair friendly amendment. Oh, the I would like to uh add the friendly amendment that No, no, just put the declaration of surplus with the condition of Okay. So, I have to repeat the whole thing again. No, just the motion for the declaration of
motion to Okay, you got it. Motion to approve the declaration of surplus property 63-65, map 87, lot 51-6 under the condition that this uh parse was used as a parking lot or facility.
Any questions, counselors? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. Any naysay? The eyes have it. Item 2125. Item 2125, declaration of surplus property 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-7, home
equity through the home equity theft act. This was also discussed at the housing committee. Um, and it was voted to refer this matter to the full council as a committee report. I submit that to you in the form of a motion. There's a motion on the table properly second by councelor. Please say I. I.
The eyes have it. U madame madame chair. Um motion to approve the declaration of surplus property 63-65 uh Newberry Street uh map 87 lot 51-7 under the condition that this parcel this parcel was used as a parking lot or facility.
Uh there is a motion on the table properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. The eyes have it. Item 2125. Item 21225, Declaration of Surplus Property 63-65, Newberry Street, Map 87, Lot 51-9
through the Home Equity Theft Act. This item was uh discussed at the housing committee voted uh uh to refer this matter to the full council as a committee report. I submit that to you in the form of a motion. It's a motion on the table properly second by councelor Santiago. All those in favor, please say I. I
Any have it? No. 212. Now the declaration of motion to approve the declaration of surplus property of 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-9. Uh under the condition that this property is used as a parking lot andor facility. I submit that to you in the
form of a motion. It's a motion on the table. Second properly second by councelor Santiago. Discussion that is none. All those in please say I. I. Any nays? I have it. Item 213. Item 21325, the declaration of surplus property 63-65
Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-13 through the home equity theft act. Uh, this item was discussed in the housing committee was voted to refer this matter to the full council as a committee and submitted as a committee report. I submit that to you in the form of a motion. There's a motion on the table to u accepted as a committee report properly
second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. I. The eyes have it. Any ns? The eyes have it. Uh so motion to approve the declaration of surplus property 63-65 Newberry Street map 87 lot 51-13 under the condition
that this property will be used as a parking lot and or facility any uh can I hear a second councelor Santiago has seconded all those in favor please say I any ns the eyes have item two4 21425 item 21425 the declaration of surplus
property 63-65 Newberry Street map 87 lot 51-16 through the home equity theft act. This item was discussed in the housing committee. It was voted to refer this matter to the full council um and submitting this as a uh committee report. I submit that to you in the form of a motion.
Motion on the table properly second by councelor Santiago. Discussion. I hear none. All those in please say I. I. Any nays? Nice have it. Uh motion to approve the declaration of surplus property 63-65 Newberry Street.
Map 87 lot 51-16 under the condition that this property is used as a parking lot and facility. Submit that to you in the form of a motion. Second. Motion on the table. Disc uh properly second by councelor Santiago. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I.
I. Have it. Now we go on top of the agenda ordinance committee. Thank you. Thank you both. Uh do uh do you have any specific item council plan for I'm not sure 26625 right here for 26
262 why don't we deal with the city okay yes 26625 can I get a motion uh council plan Yeah, sure. Just load up here. The orders can be made on 26625. This is for a longevity pay for certain
employees. So send it up to the full council with the favorable recommendation to order a public hearing and make that in the form of a motion to order a public hearing. To order a public hearing. Yes. Uh there's a motion on the table uh properly second by councelor Marmmo.
Discussion. I hear none. Councelor Rees. All right. All those in favor please say I. I. Uh any have it. Thank you. Thank you. Uh now, um we got 2 292 and then we have
people here that 293. 293. Sure. I'll take that up. Yeah. 292 is online. 293, but you can do 293. 29.
I'm sorry. I speak uh Spanish. Let me give me give me a minute. 293. So Committee met on 28325 church services in the park camp in Young Common August 17th. Uh August 17th from 8:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. was sent up to full counsel with a favorable recommendation
and make that in the form of a motion. There is a motion on the table properly second by council Santiago. Discussion council Luzon. Um and I I'm not I'm going to mention this but it's not it doesn't mean that it's
your church that is doing this. Uh there was a service on the same s what was last Saturday that we went to all the tournaments. Uh it was it was yeah two Saturdays ago. We had to be very careful with the sound
system that some of the churches are using. It was out of the place. It was a lot. I mean I have never seen any sound system a sound system that big. So we need to be careful with that. We
need to regulate. We love the church services. We were there for a little bit trying to enjoy trying to join the service. We couldn't. It was so loud that we had to we left. So uh and the neighbors were calling the
police. It was loud loud loud. It was a system that I have never seen in the city. So we need to be very careful. We know that uh we are pro- services uh pro uh
pro-church but we also need to be very careful with the sound system that the the some of the churches are using. Yeah. Just for the record and council president would you mind adding to that? Of course I will. Please. um that specific uh event that
was approved by council that it was it was the council approved that uh the event for the church but they use a different location. Mhm. They used that uh the the basketball
court when the intent was not to use the basketball court uh at the south common and um use your own please. It was uh something that they did it and they also talked to the recreation department and they they
spoke to them that it was going to be a little speaker but it it was a huge speaker and uh the recreation department spoke to that uh people in charge of that event and uh we understand we we we love
God but there is other people that uh they prefer to go to church uh instead of listening to uh to it uh outside and that's their choice. So it was a it was a challenging
challenging event on that for the neighborhood and I know thank you council president I know it's not this church no I don't know but please take that in consideration because we we want it's also noise and it's pollution uh and I know you're not
going to do that but just keep keep that in mind please thank you council president to you council president I want to mention because We are very specific to through our ordinance committ. Uh we
request uh maintain the speaker uh law because we need to taking in consideration the neighbor on the area. So we want to mention because councelor de Rosario is very specific to every
committee to request uh every shore maintain allow a speaker because uh we don't want to to and also he mentioned when you be in this area don't put the speaker close to to different way because we want to
maintain our neighbor happy because sometime when we making a lot of noise is not comfortable for our neighbors. So I want to mention because through our committee we are very specific and we mention through every
church uh and to every event when I was part of that uh of that uh ordinance committee we keep on telling everybody keep the speaker to yourself uh because I mean uh you you will u there is other events
perhaps on that specific day when councelor what councelor Luzonri is referring to there was an event at that uh at the tennis not at the tennis court at their uh volleyball court and they were not able to performs what they were supposed to because of their uh of the
music from the church they were not able to uh hear the mouth uh for their uh for their events. So multiple event throughout and we we don't want you uh your church to take this as as personal
because what we're trying to set is for every event uh that we have we have other events throughout the city and uh and we appreciate that you guys are here for sure after 10 p.m. thing. Any other questions? Counselors? Council
Lamu? It's through you, council president, and I'm um I'm I'm hoping you could provide me with an answer or uh the chairperson of the ordinance committee. When we approve these type of events, right, they obviously have to fill out uh like
a permit, right? So once these uh these permits are approved, does anyone from ISD go around uh to verify that everything that they filled out on the permit is going according exactly to plan as to what they requested cuz
there's there's a lot of different types of requests whether they're selling food or not, whether they're you know what I mean. I understand. I'm just wondering usually we don't have that. How do we keep track that they're actually following through with the permit that's being requested? Good question.
Yeah, sometime the counselors goes around and we bring complaints and we bring uh uh good feedback but I mean uh we we we understand definitely that this is a challenge for the city. Uh any other
questions counselor? Uh t Just to the to the mic. No, come to the mic. Okay, I understand. Okay, I got you. First time we're doing that event. Gracias. She understand why you guys trying to
tell her and um because it's the first time she's doing this again, they're going to follow all the rules and all the recommendation that you have given to her. Thank you. We appreciate it. Gracias. Thank you so much. Uh any counselors? Any other questions?
I hear none. At this time, I call the questions. All those in favor, please say I. I. Yeah. Have it. Thank you. You can ask. You've been approved. Uh the other uh item is 294. The following. Huh? The following. Yeah, the following. 29425.
This is the evangelism in the park at Camping Noon Common September 20th. Uh, from 3:00 to 7:00 p.m. We sent it up to the full council with a favorable recommendation and make that in the form of a motion. All right. Uh, councilors, any other questions? Second. Uh, can I hear a second?
Second. Probably second by councelor Reyes. Excuse me. If she need any coffee or something. No, she should go to see Alexa at recreation.
You should go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Uh item 29425. I mean uh we we uh send send situation. Yes. Uh you you guys get it. I mean we've
been, you know, getting some complaints. No, you don't have to. It was not your church, but I mean it. I'm sorry, Council President. No, no, no. That's You don't have to. We just wanted to put it out there as a a recommendation because that's it.
Any other questions, counselors? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Now, we have somebody online. Council Land, do you mind taking item 290 uh 29225? This is Chico's summer shootout at
Okonnell Park. I'm sorry. I'm here. um if you have like a paper with the rules. Oh, that's a good question. Yeah. So, next time if someone from
another fellow want to do a service, I can give them both rules and what is the process and what they need to do. Amazing. Yeah. Go to the recreation department and they'll follow up with that uh condition of this permit. Use this as a
template and then you can explain the other churches as of what how you went through how you fill up the application and the most important part what we concern is that maintain uh the speakers and the and the music to yourself at all
the time and uh because that's the intent the intent is to um keep up for the church. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right. 29225. There was a motion for that.
Not yet. I was almost there. Uh, Chico Summer Workout, Okonnell Park, August 17th, 2025 from 11:00 a.m. to 6 p.m. Send it to full counsel with a favorable recommendation. Make that in a form of a motion. There's a motion on the table properly second by councel Santiago. We have
that was um can I speak? That was um changed to August 16 with Eileen Bernard and with the recreation department. Na give me a minute. We haven't finished uh clarifying that uh the motion and the and the second.
Give us one one more second. Okay. There is a motion on the table properly second by councelor Santiago. Uh councilors any questions in regard to this specific uh event? I like to I think what I'm hearing is that this is actually for the
16th rather than the 17th that I just mentioned. So I want to amend my own motion for the 16th. Yeah. Right. Same time. Point well taken. Actually the the time is actually different. Um they have 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. on this application that I have.
Uh 911 August 16 1 p.m. to 5:00 pm at the south Okonnell Park. Okonnell. Is that is that including cleanup time? I'm just reading what I have on the on this as the petitioner
on high through you council president. Um Nilsa, Miss Carabio, what's the hours that you want the park? Yeah. Remember when I went the first time? Um I when I did the permit, I think I put a corner instead of Stoa
Park on High Street and the time is 1 to six. Well, it's 1 to5, but then I have to clean. So I'll be there until maybe seven until I clean up the P. All right. So the whole the whole thing have
changed. So the location date and time have changed. But do we know if that park is available available? Yeah, it is available cuz what what happened was I put when I did the permit I put the wrong park but we should know
it's park. the when I did the when I did give us one second please. Okay. So the the recreation they asking that is available. So this paper is from recreation
recreation I don't know change but we put a big yellow thing they change for recreation. This is from a so everyone has a copy of this. Okay. So, can you speak a little to see if we can hear you now?
Okay. Can you hear me now? Uh, yeah, we can hear you. Okay. when I was the first time in front of the I think um when I did the when I when I did the permit um I put the wrong
park but it's a style park and recreation know about it so it's available the 16 okay church service for a second so I change it with um oh my god I changed it with um recreation department. It's almost the same time, 1
to 5. The thing is, um, I'm going to be there maybe until 6:30 or 7 cuz I need to I know I need to clean the park and leave it the way they gave it to me. So, location is the STO park. Yeah. On High Street. The time is from uh from 1 to 5.
Mhm. And the date is on August 16. Correct. Yeah, that is correct. Okay. So Nilson, the question will be around that uh if you got if you if you build up cleanup time after the event
and prepping time before the event. Yeah. So I'll be there like at 11:00 in the morning to put up um to set up everything up, but the event doesn't start until 1. So and once you guys finish, you do have
a a a team that is going to help out with the cleanup. Yes. We have a team. Yeah. Na, I need to relight some information that I got from DPW the same day that we went around for uh for different event, sport event, and that
was that uh the the that on on on your event on Friday on that location, it was a little bit of challenge for the DPW to help out with the with a cleanup. So that's why I'm asking that question. Okay. But this is not a basketball
thing. This is a back to school event. Oh, the back is cuz the mochilas thing like I I I wasn't in the I wasn't on the court for Friday. I haven't been going to the game cuz I'm not haven't been feeling good my health. But the event
that I have in Sorak is has nothing to do with basketball. It's a it's a back to school event where we're going to give school supplies. Understand? Understand. Thank you, Nilsa. Any questions to Nilson? Uh, councelor Santiago.
Yes, I would like to say thank you Nissa for doing that one and Chico summer shootout this organization and I would like to invite our colleagues to visit this event. That's the first time you do
it at the store park and you are you are doing for many years ago and another park and I appreciate it you take the our our district to do your event. I went there
last year and the year before and that's beautiful event and the activity that you have is very helpful for the kids. They enjoy a lot and you offer free backpack and
and the the haircut for the kids braids for the girls and that's beautiful event. Thank you so much and thank you for choosing the the sto park. Thank you, councelor Santgo. Council, any other questions?
I'd like to amend my motion time. Sure. This is a Chico summer workout shootout. It's going to be Saturday, August 16th, 2025. I'm going to take a leap here. 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
on August 16th to 6 to 6 August 16th and then make that in the form of a motion. So there's a motion on the table being amended properly second. Any other discussion? I hear none. All those in favor please say I.
I. The eyes have it. Let's go to the top of the agenda. Council plan orance committee. Thank you. Thank you Nissa. Yes. 11125 handicap parking 42 Street was sent up to full council with April
recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. There's a motion on the table to order a public hearing on item 11125. Properly second. Uh I hear and there's no questions. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 2205
about 12025 is 50minute park street in front of Wilson's Auto Service. sent to the full council with the favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. All right. The motion is to order a public hearing. Uh properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I.
I. Have it. Item 19325 to remove handicap parking at three dance street was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation to order uh a public hearing. That's the motion. All right. There's a motion on the table properly second. Um all those in favor, please say I.
I. The eyes have it. Anna Javier, do you have anything for us? Give me one minute. Council has Let's continue. Oh, two. I'm sorry. I couldn't get myself off of mute. What is the item of
No, it's a new It's a It's actually one of the new items. I probably don't need to be here. I just like to show up in case. All right. No problem. Um, thank you. We continue with the agenda.
We You have something on the new business. Thank you. 225-25 is 30-minute parking on Essex Street between Winter and Oxford Street sent to the full council with a recommendation to order public hearing. That's the motion. There's a motion to order a public
hearing. Probably second by councelor Santiago. All those in f please say I. The eyes have it. How many nays? The eyes have it. 2 22025 childcare parking 140 Exchange Street sent up to the full council with favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion.
All right, there's a motion on the table properly second. Um any discussion? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 24725. Stop sign on Bennis Street at Medford Street. Send up to the full council with favorable recommendation to order a
public hearing. That's the motion. Second. And there's a motion to order a public hearing. Probably second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 24825. Stop sign on Bennis Street at Water Street. Sent up to the full council with a recommendation to order public hearing. That's the motion. Second.
All right. There's a motion on the table properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. The eyes have item. 24925. Handicap parking 11 shore street sent to the full council with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. All right. There's a motion to order a
public hearing. Properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. The eyes have the eyes have it. Item 25025 Hy parking 676 L street sends it to full council with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion.
There's a motion on the table. Uh there's a motion in front of us. Properly second by councel Rees. Uh discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Have it. Item 25125. Handicap parking 177 Garden Street sent to full council with a favorable recommendation to order public hearing.
That's the motion. All right. There's a motion on the table properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. I have it. Item 2225. 7 Packer Street. Send up to the full council with a favor favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion.
All right. The motion is to order a public hearing for handicap parking located at 7 Parker Street. All uh there's a motion properly second by Council Lores. All those in favor, please say I. I. Have it. Item 25325. Handicap parking 161 Saratoga Street was sent up to the
full council with a favor favorable recommendation. That's the motion. Second. There is a motion on the table properly second. U all those discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I have it. Item 25425. Handicap parking 29 Woodland Street.
Sent it to full council with a favorable recommendation. That's the motion. Second. There's a motion to order a public hearing. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Uh we got uh going on
top of the agenda. There is uh no communication from the mayor, city officials, city of Chenny. There is committee report. Uh we finish up with the no committee report from budget committee, budget and finance committee. Public hearing.
Council president. Yeah. Yes. Give me a minute. Counselors. There is no uh committee report from the safety committee. There is no committee report from the economic development committee. There is no committee report for the committee of the whole or there
is no new business. Now we going to the top of the agenda with public hearing. Madame clerk, please read the notice for a public hearing related to item 31024 which is the Talis Saratoga Street Oneway. Uh Council Luzon and Sandra
Silva and the Portuguese Club that's already in place. It is in place as an emergency for 30 days via the um an order from the police department because they have been waiting so long but it is not it needs to be made permanent. So we do need to
have the public. All right, let's make an statement on this. An emergency because due to the due to the waiting period is not an emergency because everybody wait. Give me a minute. Council Lon, everybody
wait for over three months for anything related to public hearing. Waiting is not an emergency. that that went in place and the fact that nobody knew the day that they put it up. Even myself went through and it
was a cow because if the police is requested uh to do this as an emergency without the proper hearing proper public hearing, they should do something else than just the signs. It was the day of that uh of the of a game uh at that uh
at that at that field at that B so field and there was a lot of a lot of in and out in and out in and out potentially having accidents on that location. I was there myself on that day. So I just want to make make sure that if it is an
emergency matters because of the waiting period it's an emergency and it should be more information because that's why we do the public hearings. Council president if I may uh this has been uh going on and on for
months. We cancelled one of the meetings where there was we were supposed to go over this and they've been waiting and waiting and there's a safety issue in that uh street and and as as you know
I'm very familiar with the place that uh and we know that the traffic in that portion of the street is is is is a safety concern for the neighbors. We got this request from the neighbors uh and also from the Portuguese club. But uh
what happened is that in the meeting we cancelled one of the meetings. We and it was the day that we lost one of the police officers. We were supposed to review this. That's why Madame Clair mentioned the emergency piece but it was
not their understandable understandable. The thing is is like um it's just because we have an item doesn't mean that it's going to go through and second of all just because we have an item for long period doesn't generate an emergency and if it is an
emergency to do a safety concern a lot more safety should be in place because on that day that they put it on it was multiple cars in and out and that could be a really safety uh situation and I completely understand maybe we
shouldn't ask the a police officers to be there uh to inform the residents. I completely understand uh where you're coming from. Okay. Thank you. Let's move on on the item 3 1094 uh 24
sorry uh satog 3 oneway u madame cla please read the notice. Sure. The legal notices for both document number 310-24 and 329-24, both one-way streets, reads, "Notice is hereby given that the Lawrence City Council will hold a public hearing on
Wednesday, August 6th, 2025, at 7 p.m. in the council chambers, 200 Common Street, Lawrence, Mass. Pursuant to chapter two of the acts of 2023 and in accordance with the recently revised city council rule two, this meeting will be hybrid allowing participation both in person and remotely to accommodate
participants with health considerations that prevent them from participating in person to receive access codes for remote participation. Please contact the city clerk at eileen.beral city of lawrence.com or 978-6203230 or view the meeting on Facebook and
YouTube. The purpose of this hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning the proposed amendment to the revised ordinances of the city of Lawrence to be further amended by adding the following sub paragraph to section 10.28.040 of the municipal code one-way streets
and alleys be inserted in the proper alphabetical order. Sub one is Saratoga Street from the intersection of Bendington Street to the intersection of Myrtle Street in an easterly to northeasterly direction and Irving Avenue from Bennington Street to Hampshire Street in a westerly
direction. Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. Um, public hearing is now open. Anybody from the public that wishes to speak? Public hearing is now closed. Counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve.
There's a motion to approve. Second properly second by councelor Santiago. Um any question? I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Uh madame clerk. Uh let's take a u let's go back. Um councel
Luzon that was the motion to item 310 924. Correct. 310. Say that again. Uh 31024. That was your motion was related to that item. Yes. Okay. Now we need a motion for item 32
uh 320 32924 Aing Avenue one way. Uh can I get a motion for that? There's a motion to approve properly second discussion. Council President, we we read the public hearing for those
two items. Item 310 and 329. Okay. I'm now we need a motion for for each individual one. Oh. So there is a motion to approve item 329 uh 24 properly second. Who was the
second? Councelor Santiago. Any questions? I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it grid has been on Zoom. Yeah, they are on Zoom. Um and that's item 22925.
Yeah. Madame clerk, do you mind reading that? Um item 22925 to to wave the preamble. To wave the preamble. There is a motion to wave the preamble. Can I hear a second? Second. Properly second. Uh discussion. There is
none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item uh uh 22925. Malclair. Please read the notice. The purpose of this hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning a petition presented by
Massachusetts Electric Company doing business as National Grid requesting the city of Lawrence mass buying through the city council members for permission to locate poles, wires, fixtures, and or underground conduits, including any necessary and sustaining and protective fixtures along and across the following public ways. This is document 229-25.
It's to install two JO poles on Sterns Avenue. The reference is 30992841 referenced by David Johnson of National Grid. Copies of the relevant plans for all of the above reference petitions are on file with the office of the city clerk and may be viewed upon request.
Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. Uh public hearing is now open. Anybody from the public that wishes to speak? We have national agreed on Zoom. Um do you have anything to add? Um yep. I'm just here representing
national grade at 11:01 turnbike uh north Andover. Um it's just as you read. We will be installing these two J poles to support a new building on 13 Street. No, the thing is is not controller from there.
Uh all right. Councelor public hearing is now closed. Anybody u public hearing is now closed. Counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve. There's a motion to approve. Properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in fail, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Thank you. And read
Brian. Thank you for your time tonight, guys. Have a good one. All right. Uh now, Malanch, please read the notice for item 11925. Dumber 119-25. The purpose of this hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning
the proposed amendment to the revised ordinances of the city of Lawrence to be further amended by adding the following new subparagraph to section 10.40.060 of the municipal code permit parking street designation to be inserted in the proper alphabetical order
Jackson Court both sides entire length resident parking at all times. Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. Public hearing is now open. Uh, anybody from the public that wishes to speak? Public hearing is now closed.
Counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve. There's a motion to approve. Properly second by councelor Santiago. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Uh, Madame Clair, please read the notice for item
151 194. Uh in one 21925 documents documents number 150-25, 194-25 and 219-25. The purpose of this hearing is to allow the testimony,
information, and public input concerning the proposed amendment to the revised ordinances of the city of Lawrence to be further amended by deleting the following sub paragraphs to section 10.36.340 of the municipal code handicapped parking documents 150-25 AM Street West
Side from a4t southerntherly of the intersection of Kenwood Street to a 34 ft southerntherly of the intersection of Kenwood Street. and document number 194-25 North Boilston Street northeast side from a point 130 ft northwest of Main
Street to 150 ft northwest of Main Street. And then document number 219-25 Exchange Street west side from a 85 ft south of Myrtle Street to a point 105 ft south of Myrtle Street. Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the
opportunity. Public hearing is now open for item 150, 194 and 21925. Anybody from the public that wishes to speak? I hear none. Public hearing is now closed. Uh I will entertain a motion for
item 15025, the removal of handicap parking located at 264 M Street. Motion to approve. There is a motion to approve. Second. Properly second. Discussion. Just to be aware of that situation, counselors, when we receive an item for
removal from a constituents, it could be that the parking it's affecting the person. Uh so we need to somehow get some type of check on that. I don't know how, but I mean uh we we need to because it could be that is oh
it's I don't want to I don't want handicap around. just to uh put it up there for potential issues. So councilors, we have a motion on the table properly properly second discussion. There is none. All those in fail, please say I.
The eyes have it. Item 1942, the removal of Indica parking located at three north uh Bolston Street. Uh councilors, what's the motion? There's a motion to approve properly second by councelor Mammo. Um discussion
I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item uh 21925 removal of Indica parking at 19 Exchange Street. Um and can I hear a motion?
There is a motion to approve. Second by councelor Santiago. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Um so now we going to new business new business proposed change to the
noise ordinance uh 09040 enforcement provisioned uh that's going to the ordinance committee item uh 30225 approval of contract more than three years uh for lead inspection contract that's going to uh the ordinance
committee item 303 325 removal of Hindica parking at 1416 uh cluster street uh ordinance committee item 30425 Hendica parking at 12121 East Haver Street that's going to ordinance item
30525 Picker River cleanup Manchester Street September 2025 from 7:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. That's going to ordinance committee item 30625 soyos basketball family days at the corner park south
common on August 16 um from 9 to 4 counelors for these we're going to need to suspend the rules and uh and and be able to vote at this level u and uh and declares an emergency if you if the
council wishes for item 306 is on the 16 of this month. Counselors a motion. We need to declare this it declare this item as an emergency and be able to vote uh to entertain it today. There's a motion to declare this as an
as an emergency uh due to uh the reason is for the convenience of the of the uh community properly. Second by Councelor Mour discussion discussion. Councelor Plan. If we're going to do something as an
emergency, it it just makes sense for the applicant to be here. It doesn't the same thing that we would do at the ordinance committee meeting. If if the ordinance meeting shows up and the applicant doesn't show up, we end up tableabling it. That's just our common practice because we like to have the
respect of being able to ask questions and not take something for granted. All right. You I entertain a motion to table if you want. Well, I just I mean I I just you've asked you you've asked
you've asked for discussion, so I'm I'm providing some discussion as to what I'm I'm thinking about it. I we we like the organization, but frankly, they should know better. This is not I don't think the first time that they they were here earlier today. They were the one that we disposed the disposition.
I'm well aware. I'm well aware. So they were already here. They should have stayed longer is my point. If they were already here to you council you know there is a there's a dis discussion council pl to have the floor and then I go back to you councel.
I I just I'm I'm frankly frustrated. That's why I'm I'm I'm venting a little bit and the hour is late. We're we're getting tired and I'm just venting. I just wish they were here. I don't want to treat this group any differently than any other group. Um, I want to treat everybody the same and equity and fairness and all that and and uh I
happen to like this group. So now I'm tugged, right? I'm tugged because I want I want to see them have it, but I'm also trying to be fair. And I if this was another group, I probably would say no because that's what we do typically do. So why am I treating this group differently? And I'm struggling with
that. So I'm just venting. I'm willing to listen. Real plans. Uh I want to mention uh it's because we they have a short time uh to motion to pass 11. There's a motion to pass 11.
Second properly second. All those in fi I have it councel rees. I understood what you mentioned. Uh the person is supposed to be here to answer any question but it's not the this activity is not the first time. They
request this kind of permits every year and it's a a a family event. Uh and they do every year and they come from us to explain how important is the kind of event for our youth and family
to our community. That's why I asking to declare um emergency because uh is on August 16 is very close. uh I think they don't have time to be through our ordinance committee and
then approve it for our next full council meeting. That's why I asking you taking that in consideration. Thank you. All right. U counelors any other questions? I have none. I call the questions.
Madame clerk, please call the role for the to declare this an emergency. Uh, councelor Levy is noted as absent. Council La Plant, no. Council Luzon, yes. Council Del Rosario is noted as absent. Council Santiago,
yes. Council Marl, yes. Council Reyes, yes. Council Vice President Infonte, yes. Council President, uh, vote yes. What's the count? 63 with the two absent and the one no. So, six in favor and two absent, one.
What, uh, what is the requirement? six for an emergency. So it's we have six motion carries. Uh so counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve. Second. There's a motion to approve properly second. Uh
any discussion? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Uh any nice have it. Um item 30725 recovery month celebration at
Ronnies Park on September 6 uh 2025 from 8 to 4 p.m. Uh that's going to go to the ordinance committee. Item 30825 local acceptance of Massachusetts general law uh section 40 uh Massachusett law 40
section 70 regarding the school bus violations detections monitoring system for illegal passing at uh of the school bus that's going to that ordinance committee. Um item
um item 30925, Lawrence Lawrence Young City Council ordinance. Uh that's going to let uh the ordinance committee item 31025 that authorization to spend uh 381,287
of FAA grant funds uh for federal project RWY five end of uh drainage project uh that's going to the uh budget and finance committee item 31125 approval of
uh approval to file bond authorizations application ations for the construction phrase of the April administration building project that's going to the budget and finance committee item 31225 authorization to pay privacy privacy as
build 947.60 60. Uh that's going to the budget and finance committee. Item 21325 resolution honoring Lawrence Firefires one him one jimenez. Uh that's going to
the ordinance committee. Item 31425. Resolution honoring resolution honoring um Lawrence Firefire Joseph Morphy. That's going to the ordinance committee. Uh item 3 31525. Resolution honoring Lawrence Firefire
Wilson Bentura. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 31625, um, issuance of Liberty License, uh, Floating LLC, uh, Sergeant Mark.
That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 31725 del Noventa community picnic um Julia and Park Julia Sio August 23rd 2025 from 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p p.m. Last going to
the ordinance committee item 31825 a stop sign of Berkeley Court uh wedding meet Berkeley Street near the intersections with the park with Parker Street that's going to the ordinance committee item 31925 proposed ordinance establishing a minimum a minimum
residency requirement for uh political candidates that's going to the ordinance committee item 320 uh 32025 review and update uh kind of ordinance to incorporate changes from the maj law. That's going
to the ordinance committee. Item 32125 res parking at Doll Street. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 3225 res parking at Cypress A. That's going to ordinance committee. Item 3 32325
res parking at Water Street Southside from 34 to 80 uh to 82. That's going to ordinance committee. Item 320 32425 Rian Park in B uh Bay State Road
Westside uh 60 ft. That's going to uh ordinance committee item 32525 park and water street side uh 300 and uh 230 ft. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item uh 32625
childc care parking of 41 forest street that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 32725 remove of child remove childc care parking signage at 41 Taylor Street that's going to the ordinance committee.
Uh item 32825 handicap parking at 66 65 Willow Street that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 32925 Handicap Park and 55 Sanders Street. That's going to ordinance committee. Item 3 33025 confirmation appointment of N Marie
Dland uh to the Lawrence Cultural Council that's going to the personal committee. Item 33125 confirm temporary appointment of Carlos Matoss to the LA completing the terms uh
related to of Sarah Perez that's going to the personal committee counselor's date for the ordinance. Council council president I'd like to make a motion to reconsider my vote on 30625. I'm on the prevailing side. There is a motion to reconsider on item 30625.
Um, can I hear a second? Thank you. Take a vote. Properly. There's a motion to reconsider. Properly second. No. Yeah. I voted in favor of it. You looked at me like, why you voting in favor of it? I was on the side.
So, which vote you No, the final passage. the the final vote. Okay. Yeah. So that the motion to approve you want to reconsider. Okay. U item 30625 on the motion to approve.
There is a motion to reconsider properly second by councelor Santiago. Uh discussion there is none. All those in favor please say I. The eyes have it. Um any nays? The eyes have it. Uh councilors you willing to reconsider your vote. So I'm looking for a motion here. My
concern is this. Uh, I just was looking at the application again. One of the things that we don't want to see is a conflict. I don't know if there's nothing anything scheduled at Okonnell Park at the basketball court on that date. I don't have one second. We have potentially we potentially have the answer.
Okay. They have the yellow sheet. So, they have no confidence. It isn't. It is. I'm because whatever was here is what got scanned. It's not
all right. But we do we do have the permit. That's fine. We do have it. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. You know why? Because it's under new business. It is with the new business, but it's not in your finder. All right. What's the motion? It's free, but it's free. It's available. It's free. It's available. Um, that's fine. I just needed to get
clarification on that. I'm going to vote yes on this, but I didn't have that. So, now we need a motion to approve. Can I have a motion to approve? Motion to approve. There's a motion to approve properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. All right.
Uh, councilors, what's the ordinance committee? Next Tuesday, 7 o'clock. Next Tuesday at 700 p.m. Uh, personal personal Monday at 5:30.
And budget finance. 5:30. 5:30. Monday at 6:30. Um you got the date any other um subcommittee? No, no. I mean uh we we we potentially have the
Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. All right. No problem. All right. Motion to There's a motion to adjurnn. Prop second discussion. All right. All those in fail, please say I. Any nays? That's have it. Thank you, counselors.