It is a vacant lot. Um the assessed value is 270,000 with an annual tax of 2,376 a year. Um before us we have um Can you say that again through M that last part again? I'm sorry.
Could you please you could you please repeat that last part? Sure. The tax part. Yeah. Counselor. Perfect. Yes. So, the estimated annual tax is $2,376 a year. All set. So, we did an RFP for this
property. Um, and we received three proposals. Um, they were received in response to the request for proposal. One proposal titled Rising Champions, One Goal at a Time by Stephanie Castillo and Milver Cerriano was disqualified due
to a late submission. Uh according to 30B laws, we have to meet certain uh time stamp um used by the city clerk and they were late so they were disqualified from being reviewed. Just so you guys know for the record. Uh Tint Lords also
um submitted a proposal to us but per the evaluation committee this vendor submitted an incomplete development and the proposal is not a youth sports program as you guys had suggested that we do. So they were also disqualified. So, moving forward from the three applicants, the last applicant left with
a complete proposal was Sueno's basketball offering $30,000 over the assessed value price. Um, per the evaluation, the committee um determined that this vendor was the most advantageous vendor. And so, we selected unanimously and voted that Seno's
basketball was the best application for the RFP process that we conducted earlier this year. Um just to continue to elaborate um of the remaining two proposals which I just explained just to go into a little bit more detail. One was deemed responsive
and responsible which was the SU's basketball application having met all qualifying criteria and the specific the specifications outlined in the scope of services that we discussed in the RFP and the declaration of surplus. The evaluation committee reviewed and scored
the proposals based on technical qualifications, relevant experience, and overall responsiveness. The review committee then conducted the evaluation process in the presence of the mayor. Committee members in attendance included director Frank
Cerillo, director Daniel McCarthy, myself, acting director of community development, attorney Tim Hooin, Pearla Ortiz with our tax collector, and Ramona Sevalo's art careful. After careful
consideration, the committee unanimously found Sueno's basketball to have submitted the most advantageous proposal, particularly due to their strong understanding of the city's vision for this pro for this property. With youth, with your approval, the
review committee recommends awarding the real estate property to Sweno's basketball and proceeding with the contract process. And that was sent as a memo uh to the city council back in April from our purchasing uh procurement
officer, Rosanna Del Rosario. Um I believe that's all the basic information that I have for you guys today. Um and I'm not sure if you guys had any any further questions for us. I know you had some questions for the organization and they are all here.
Um their representative is also here. So we are open for any questions that you guys may have or any discussions you guys. So discussions any questions? Sure. Councelor Lel plant. So the first thing is I'm I'm relying a lot on memory. I was kind of expecting to
have the backup information in our packets. Of course it's not there. The last time we had our backup information, we actually had the bond authorization bill that was submitted uh in the legislature. And if I remember correctly, I think it was half a million
or $400,000 part of the bond that was was earmarked for this organization. Um the attorneys here, do you rep through you through you? Do you represent this organization, attorney? Are you representing this this organization rather?
Yes. Yes, I do. Uh councelor, uh good evening. Uh councelor is Brian Carrian, 122 Chestnut Street, and of Mass. Um, councelor, the uh the the uh the grant to uh SUNOS uh as part of the um budget
bill was actually signed into law by the governor and it made the cut. It's uh it's no less than $5 million. Um 5 million 5 million and I do have copies. I mean, I I printed a actually printed it today, an
excerpt of the uh um House Bill number 5100, which had been uh paired down by the the governor's uh vetos, and it's but the Sweenos grant is still made the cut and it's still in there. So, I'd be happy to share that with the council.
Was it was it an outside section to the budget or was it a was it a standalone bond authorization bill that that was that was passed? Say that one more time. Was it an outside section to the FY the FY26 state budget? Was it an outside section or was
it or was it a standalone uh legislation bond office legislation? There are hundreds and hundreds of uh of grants of this type within this uh bill to various I I believe there are a few that actually apply to Lawrence. I noticed that
there's no less than 100,000 for a renovation of a handball court on the corner of Oxford and L Street. So there there are number of these types of uh grants in there, but the Senos uh 5 million minimum did make the cut. So So I just want to make sure I'm precise
with the words. You say grant, I was under the impression this was a bond authorization bill and and and that they are going to go ahead and because it's I'm going to I'm going to let the secret out for everybody, right? So there is I'm going to use a number that's not true. There is a billion dollars worth
of bond authorizations that any legislature can throw into it and everybody says that's fantastic. Thank you very much. A bond authorization. But unless the governor comes over and says that yes, we are going to fund that dollar amount. You could put as much you could put everything you want in the
world and say you did everything for your district. But until the governor says I'm going to fund whatever that portion is, it doesn't really make a difference. So it's a political statement and then when the governors does it then it becomes reality. So I just want to make sure I'm clear. So I know that was part of the political
statement but now is it becoming reality? Is this part that the governor I want to make sure I'm clear on this. The governor has actually earmarked and is and actually going to fund this and we got some assurance and that's is that is that true? I am not aware that the governor has actually taken the final stage of signing
signing over the money. So I believe there is going to be one more step to this part of the process. And there will be steps obviously involved with uh on the other side with SWOS. Uh my clients do have the ability to acquire the property for 300,000 if this council
approves it. I have copies of uh their bank statement showing the balance over $300,000 as of today. Um and then obviously they need to move forward with a vigorous um donation uh solicitation
campaign um because there's going to have to be some private funding as well to build the facility that they proposed here which you see in your plans which I don't have with me part of the package. Yeah, I got you. I got you. And I do recall seeing it so I know it's out there so I'm familiar with that. All
right. So just so I'm clear I have an extra copy if you want to look at So, just so I'm clear, the the val the value of the property was $270,000. Uh, Swenos is is willing to has offered $300,000. And one of the other questions that I had was, will there be taxes paid? And
if I if I heard it correctly, the answer is yes. The taxes are going to be paid at the sum of $2,376 per year, at least at this rate. Is that accurate? I'll let Miss Sure. Yes. So, the taxes that are are
mentioned in um in the information, that's the that's general information. Um I'm not sure if maybe the attorney or um Suenos can answer whether or not under their business structure as a nonprofit, as a profit. Those are just
legal questions. What uh category they fall under? I know that depending on the structure of the organization, they could be exempt from taxes. So, I want to make sure that we clarify that with the attorney. My my understanding counselor uh well first of all my client is a uh
charitable organization uh and therefore would be exempt from property taxes real and personal under uh general laws chapter 59 section 5. Um and I I see no reason why they shouldn't be. Uh now the
city certainly uh could impose as a condition uh the the imposition of of property taxes but uh it I think it would be atypical. I know that it happens sometimes in um some some uh affordable housing where I I've seen some of my
clients that have built affordable housing in the city have uh pursuant to the the the authorization for the city have have agreed to pay. But in this particular case, um, you know, my client is a nonprofit, it's a charity,
um, they're providing a tremendous service to the community. So, so I think that's the reason why they would get the benefit of the exemption. So, my understanding is that and moving forward, and I do not believe that this was ever addressed in the RFP.
Um but we we do not expect that that uh uh Swenos would have to pay property tax real or personal. We would if if if this council approved the sale um we would immediately be applying to the uh
assessor's office for for that exemption to take effect. Okay. Thank you. Uh to Charlotte Miss Pascal, excuse me. I don't want to be too familiar. Miss Pascal. So, um, was this even considered when looking at
the RFPs? Now, granted, you went through the three of them and I think this was the best. And was this I I don't know if I caught it. I knew one or two of them were disqualified. Was there any that weren't disqualified besides this one, or was this the only one that was not disqualified? So, I sent down the memo that I sent down
with the uh just with the summary. Um, Tint Lords uh submitted a proposal for car wash. So, it wasn't necessarily what we had asked for them. So, because it wasn't the intended use, and I'm harping on making sure that I do exactly what you guys um decided in the vote, they were
disqualified because it wasn't the use. And then, um the other proposal was late. So, due to 30B laws, I we couldn't even look at it. I couldn't even open it. Okay. Okay. So, those two there was three, two were disqualified, and this was the
only one standing. There was the only ones there. Fine. So, uh, was was this even a consider consideration? Was taxes even a consideration when we were looking at this? And maybe the attorneys got some information. So, in regard to the the criteria, one of
the criteria is not the ability to pay taxes. That's not one of the things we look at, not future tax. We look for the the criteria which obviously you don't have in front of me are benefits to the city uh being you know all the criteria to but one is one of
them is not taxes future taxes only but but it could be if if it was so so I would imagine it could be right but in this particular no if we have chosen the second one they obviously are a were a cow wash they would be paying taxes yeah that's not my point my point is
that um in in this RFP. Again, I don't have the information here. I think we were looking for some sort of um recreation facility or sports facility and that was at the top of the list. Nowhere on there did it say, you know, we're we we we wanted to make sure that
that the city's revenues are are also being um are are being increased or dealt with. However, we I am going on a limb here. Could hypothetically could we have said all those things and we also want to have a and bring in tax revenue
is also important. Could we have said that as part of that package? Well, I I think when reviewing the programs depending on what you're looking for, it would definitely be part of it. What what what value is bringing into the city? I think I get your point. The problem with this is when you're looking at a sports facility, for the most part, you're looking at nonprofits.
You're not really looking at taxable. I know a little bit about hockey rinks. So, um, they do make a lot of money and there are corporations that do that. So, that's a sports facility. So, it's I maybe in in Lawrence that's not going to fly, but in other places you could make money on a sports facility, but that's not relevant here because as I
understand it because we did not specifically state in our RFP that that was one of the considerations that that should not even be it may be a consider. It's not one of our major considerations. You know, we want to make sure first of all, do they have the money to do this? you know, is this a good use for the
city? You know, have they had similar pro projects? We we don't want to set someone up to fail. So that that's what you know if we look at them um what the site development schedule is what their track record is the benefit to the community the quality of the proposed
design the f financial capability of the company that's going to take it uh the purpose of parking uh those items and obviously I don't have to tell this committee parking is very essential in the city but um so those are the things we look the major things but we you know you go down to the nitty-gritty
were this between let's let's say there were five different sports uses. Yeah, we would go probably down to say, oh, which is which will pay more taxes as a consideration? Which will which looks better? Which, you know, okay, those are smaller consider, but we we have to qualify first like is this thing going
to succeed? is are they are they going to make it? Are we giving property to someone? You know, the last thing we want to do is give prop not give, we're selling, sell property to someone who will never develop it. You know, there's too many people that, you know, think, oh great, we'll get it for
300,000. I'll hold it and in two years I'll flip it for 900,000. And that's a great point. Is there any is there any assurances that it's not going to be flipped? It has to be developed. We have a development. They have to put a development schedule. They have to meet it otherwise it comes back. And how long is that schedule?
I I think it really depends once they get the building. I mean you have to I mean when they have to put in their designs. Um I mean they have the designs right now. They have the storm water management. They paid that money to begin with to to design it. So, I couldn't tell you right now like is it
six months? I think it really depends. If you're talking about building um Schaefer Stadium, the building is going to be a lot longer. If you're talking about building a onebedroom apartment, the building schedule is going to be shorter. It's just it depends on what they use. So, my my concern here and I I know the
individuals that are here and I know they're working in good faith and I have a lot of confidence in the program and what the program produces. Look, how it's not easy. this many people at a meeting like this already they're telling me they're organized and they're com they're committed and it it shows me
that uh that they believe in the program and that they were here because if they didn't believe in it they'd be doing something else so they believe in the program. So I get that and this is not about the program. This is this is about from my perspective two things. One is one is um
and this is not going to stop me from voting for it, but I think we as a city as a city we need to start thinking about our finances a little bit more and maybe in this particular situation we're not. But we have to also be as as I'm
going to predict budget cuts. It's going to happen. It's it's if you talk to any experts, it's around the corner, right? What are we doing? And we have to be cognizant of that when we start making decisions before us because at some point I don't want to lay off a police
officer or close down a fire station. I don't want to do that. I've done that before. Don't like doing that. So we have to be realistic about this. So we have to start thinking what are we doing to to make sure we're bringing as much money as we can to to to to fund the essentials in our city. So I just want
us to consider that. So I think always always that should be a part of it. The second part of it is a concern of mine. Again, as a as a just as a general concern, not with this organization, a general concern is flipping properties. And I just want to make sure if the real
estate market, I think, is still hot. They get this property for $300,000 and somebody comes in and says, you know something, we can give you a million and a half for this. They say, you know something, we're just going to go across the border to Muan and build something and then save a lot more money and then
we can do something else. And it's and all our kids can go there. is the thinking. I just want us to make sure that we have if we're going to go forward with this that we have got some asurances that this is not this is going to stay there whether it's this project or any project that we're doing. We're
just not flipping it. I don't know what the I I'm not I understand that. But we we should also understand the nature of this project, the the location to the river, uh the the limitations of what can be built on there, limitations of size. Um no big corporation is going in there to build anything. It's too small. It's too close
to wetlands. It's too close to many things. So, um, again, could could they flip it from three to four? Yes. But not under our conditions. They have what are our conditions? Again, just so I'm clear, what's the conditions that on time time conditions? How much time do we go?
And I've taken a lot of time. This is my last question. And thank you for your patience. Ask them. You're asking questions. I want to know the estimated time of completion. Estimated time of completion is three months. No. Well, was that three months?
Oh, I'm sorry. Highly advantage. Oh, so this season. Yeah. Yeah. We have we have terms from three to nine months. So, so just so I'm I'm going to I'm going to go
go crazy on one side to prove the point. So, they do that stuff in three out of nine months. on month number 10. They're free and clear if they choose to. I don't think they're going to. I'm pretty No, they're free and clear if the building is built in month 10. Free and clear. What? Sit here. If the building is built in 10 months,
if the building is built in 10 months, then they're free and clear to have the all the rights of that property and a right to sale if they wanted to or convey to somebody else if they wish to on month number 10 as long as the building is there. They're selling a a basketball court at that point. Understood. But I'm I understood. But
I've seen mills convert here where people said they would never build a mill. Would they never do it because of all the environmental issues and all this stuff. So it happens, right? I would like to add um councelor Leelant um the conditions that are set in the declaration of surplus are for the life of the property. So this is a youth
development with a you with a educational component. Okay? Anything in that lot has to be a youth development with an educational uh component. No matter what, it doesn't change with the owner. Okay. It's with the property. With the property how long? For the life of the property.
Forever. Yes. I don't think you can do it forever. I've been doing this. I've been doing this. I mean, I I have seen people come before the council to remove conditions. I've seen 99 releases, but I don't see
that's up to the council to remove conditions. Okay. But the But the conditions set are for the life of the of the property. And unless they come before the council and they agree together that they want to remove conditions which I have seen happen.
Okay. Okay. I'm I'm good. I got enough information. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you, madam chair. Okay. Any further questions, discussions? No. Okay. Um well, councelor Llan answered a lot of the questions that I wanted to personally ask, which was the
financials. I I believe for the most part uh this committee has shared similar concerns and if this was to go up to full counsel it's going to share the same concerns that we're asking um today
you want to speak on this specific item you can if you want you don't have to would you probably particip ipation was over at the beginning. I'm not sure. I mean, there is no I don't want to vi I don't want to violate any open meeting laws. So, I'm not sure that's your proving
the ch Madam Chair to help. The challenge that we have is we have a 7 I I just took a lot of time. We have a 7:00 meeting. We have more stuff going on. We typically as a as a committee, any committee, we do allow people to speak, but we also have to be mindful of the time. So if someone could be I would recommend if someone was short and sweet
with their comments but we we would also have to open up to anybody else as well and once we open up that box but everybody gets a chance so it's up to you so everybody's going to support you madam chair thank you madam chair for the
opportunity bill won a flat court um I'll sum this up there was a few things I wanted to discuss but I'll I'll get right to the Right. When the council of plant mentioned there was a secret he was going to divulge tonight, I thought it was the fact that this entire charade
and that's what it is is a charade is ridiculous because you all know and people in the know know that the mayor promised this plot of land to this group at a dinner that this group had last
year. Excuse me. I can I get some water here, madam chair? So, this was promised by the mayor last year to this group at a dinner and there were people in the room that know that. I believe there may be even counselors
that were there might know it and could corroborate that. So, through the chair, I ask you, why are we going through this process, this RFP process, if this entire charade is already concocted and a done deal? I mean, exposing corruption in Lawrence
shouldn't be left to the citizens. It should be the press or the politicians or the government uh from Boston that should come in. Exposing corruption in Lawrence for a novice like me is like shooting fish in a barrel in Lawrence.
It's that easy. I hope somebody will corroborate what I've said here tonight. Thank you. Amen. Attorney who in I I would just like to say first of all I just I couldn't disagree firmly. The mayor can say anything he wants to. The
mayor can promise me he's going to build me a a mansion. He can do anything. If remember first thing it happened to go it had to go through our committee. Our committee reviewed each and every application. Second of all it has to go by your committee. If you guys say no nothing happened. So this whole idea of
it being set in stone, I I I strongly disagree that people love to cast dispersements in here. Politicians say a lot of things at a lot of time to gain the votes of people, but to say that this process is rigged, it's I I wouldn't be part of I've been an
attorney for 42 years. The one thing I have is my reputation. And I don't care what anybody says. I'm not wasting my reputation to what? Build a basketball court. It's ridiculous. So I I take great umbrage and great offense at the statement. Our committee met. It was the
best anybody could have applied. Anyone is allowed to apply. Three people applied. We took the best. Um the mayor doesn't have to take our decision. We were unanimous. I mean the cappo, what interest does she have? What interest do
we have on I I don't know this organization. I've never met anybody in this organization. So to I just want to dispel that. I apologize. I'm ready for a vote, Madam Chair. What was that? I'm ready for a vote. I make a motion. Okay. I'm ready. Let me Can I Can I say a few words?
I'm just let I'm ready. That's all. Um before we proceed with uh moving forward with the vote on how we're going to move forward with this item is um I do want to say that um being a counselor for almost two years, I'm not going to completely dispel some of the comments
because I have been a witness to uh comments being made and promises being made specifically with this organization. However, I will not take away the amazing the amazing things that have been done by this organization. um
the quality of work um that has been done by the family that runs this organization and what it has produced. Um I also want to state that I think it is imports from another district, a counselor who
is not part of this committee and is not the chair of this committee is involving themselves in order to facilitate for this vote to go one way or the other. I h I I I highly take that very offensive
and despite the the amazing relationship that I do have um with some of the folks that run this organization, it will not take away my ability to be able to discuss on this item without doing the proper process and procedures in order
for this to be done correct. Um, with that being said, um, I just want to make sure that we have clear, um, the the language that is in, um, this specific item. the language does it
restrict and I believe you did state that attorney Hooen um it restricts um from any type of changes to be made to another facility or to be sold in any kind of way within um is there like a
time frame they they have to build what they want us to build if they they cannot come excuse me I I sometimes criticize because nobody uses the microphone and nobody can here at home. So I'll cause my own thing. Um
they have to build what they have to what they have promised. If they deviate in any way, they have they have violated the terms of the agreement. Okay. The second question I had was there was a document that was mentioned by attorney um Brian Corgan.
I would like to receive a copy of that document if you're able to share that with all the council members as well. Um when council the plan asked you if this is going to be earmarked um it it's not a guarantee. So worst
case scenario if this is not guaranteed to um that that the financials are going to be available in order to move forward with this project. Is there anything in writing disclosing how this will be funded
if this falls through? If the the the legisl the state support falls through, then we'll be completely relying upon uh uh the ability to to generate charitable donations from supporters. That that that'd be a
tall task. So, uh to answer your question, uh council chair, but is the language is there anything written is there anything in the language that discusses if this um if this deal falls through? So, I've spoken
with um uh Representative Moran, who I believe was the uh the uh sponsor of this particular uh bond measure. And I believe that um you know, we can't put the cart before the horse. We we
have to take certain steps. Um the first the first thing is that this body has to approve the the RFP and the and the sale to my client. Once that happens, um I believe I believe that
Representative Moran will then be going out and and making diligent efforts to get the governor to u prioritize uh the funding here. Um taking another step back on something that was said earlier about the the timing of the project. This is going to
take some time. in our in our proposal, I believe that we uh estimated two years, but right off the bat, um we first have to engage in a a purchase and sale agreement with uh the city with I'll be working with Mr. Hooton on that.
Um we have to close the deal. So, there'll be a title examination and a closing. Um, and then immediately we have to uh this is going to require full zoning approval because we're going to be we'll need uh variances and a special permit and um there may be conservation
issue. I haven't looked into that yet, but but definitely some zoning relief involved and that's going to take some time. Um so before the first shovel hits the ground, uh we're probably looking at you know several months. there's going to have to be some site work uh some
determination because we we have not done any due diligence on the actual land itself. So that's going to have to be done by the engineering uh folks on our team and then um so all these things will be happening sort of parallel. Uh
Mr. Moran will be working on the $5 million uh funding uh measure. uh my clients will be working on um vigorous uh donation solicitation and so and then also there's going to be some bank financing involved uh for the
for the building. So all this is going to come together but certainly none of it can come together until this body approves the sale. Um so I hope I've answered the question. If not please please tell me. Okay. I mean, I'm sure there will be
further questions um if this was to move forward. And and I hope that if if it does get passed tonight, by the time it goes to the next level, we might have some some better feedback. But I believe that the governor just signed the budget recently. It might have been last week. Okay.
So, I I hope that uh we can maybe even have Mr. Moran come in speak directly on on the on this issue, what's involved in the logistics. That would be great. I would like to um counselor through you if you would allow um there's a there's a phrase called
shovel to completion right and so the phrase involves initial steps like design and engineering work like the attorney had uh spoken about it typically takes one to two fiscal years for projects to be pre-developed and funded through the programs and all that
stuff so that's just a general statement so shovel to completion for projects are generally between one to two years, please take into account that we live in New England and that there's snow and rain and all kinds of different weather increments that we have to work around.
So, um I think that uh in their proposal, I know that in their proposal they suggested one to two years because that is the typical amount of time that is needed for a project to be finished. Would I like to see it done in three months? Absolutely. But is that the
reality? And it's not. So just so that you can understand a little bit a little bit of the general shovel to completion term and what that is and what that means for every kind of project not only so but other projects that will come before you. Okay. So I'm looking for a recommendation on this item.
Counselor. I I'd like to ask a very quick question to the city attorney perhaps. Council Lant. Yeah. Thank you. Um what what I'm thinking about right now is is trying to move this forward trying to get this to the full council. I'm looking forward to making a favorable recommendation. But one of the things that I think is
important is can we put a contingency clause onto the motion that says contingent upon the the u the the funding from the state of making sure that we have that 5 million because the last thing I think we want to do is do this and then this thing doesn't really
take place because the big funding is is the need is 5 million and that dries up. So I'm trying to do the timing. I want this to move forward. If the funding has already been signed by the governor and it's already inserted, then that condition gets taken care of. But I just don't want to have this thing linger.
All of a sudden, we're in limbo year two, year three. We're still waiting for money to be released by the by the by the state house. Yeah. Again, that would that they would return if they don't start on this project. And again, I I understand digging. I'm not suggesting completion.
Uh my concern is and I'm going to give you a hypothetical is that we say unless you get the money from the state um you've got to come back to us and next week Malcolm Woodier a great longtime Lawrence resident dies and leaves them
$6 million. Well that's not what we promised. We said you had to get money from the state so we effectively stop them that project or or the contingent could say either five million or another funding source and we don't even know if it's five million. I I don't know how much this is going to cost. I'm I'm worried about putting conditions and numbers that no
one has any idea of at this point. I have no idea what this building is. Well, somebody had an idea to put $5 million in a bond package if someone has an idea. So, that's why I threw that number up because someone had an idea. Yeah. Again, but not putting a contingent at
all kind of leaves it very up in the air and having potential issues down the road. You don't see that, Attorney? I I you could say and again I I'm not suggesting this. You could say that you insist that
the project be completed by X amount of time. If not, it returns to the city. So I don't So through you again, Madam Chair, I'm not looking to set this up for failure. I want to set this up for success. So just I'm asking these tough
questions. It looks like I'm being antagonistic and on the other side of this, but I I just You are You are a city counselor. You answer to the taxpayers. You have the right to ask any and every question you want. So, I just think I it's my responsibility to do what I'm doing right now. So, I don't want to set this
up for failure. So, you probably don't have this answer, but Miss Charl Miss um Miss Pas Pascal mentioned that we or maybe you said we could have a certain time. How much time would be needed for something like this? again and I'm not suggesting your
business, but maybe this is something that you require at the full council meeting and we would have all the answers at that point and that's fine. Uh what we could do, Madam Chair, is is for that purpose, maybe there's more answers. I don't want to I don't want to hold it up here. So, I would be willing
sure I'll stop you. Sure. Um pursuant to the city ordinance um a variance or special permit expires within one year one year if not exercised. I think that's fairly standard. I think some municipalities may may go two years
but one year would be the time by which substantial you know there have would have to be some uh construction begun by that point. And uh obviously if if we run into roadblocks with financing or other issues, maybe something to do with the site, we'd have to come back and ask
the council to extend that. But uh I I would maybe recommend that because that would that would be in line with what the various boards here impose upon developers uh with other construction projects. You're you're granted a permit. uh if you don't do anything with it within a
year, it expires or unless you ask for an extension, then you got to come back and and ask for it again and go through the whole processing. So, I would say maybe we could have that one year. That's not something uh uh fictitious. It's actually written into the the city
laws already. So, and I'm going to ask an unfair question to the city and I'm looking at you, Miss Pascal, as representing the city. uh are your department your would that would that is that something that uh that would work uh for you if we were to have that
contingency I'm prepared to send it out without a recommendation but what do you think about that you guys can include in your vote whatever you guys see you know fit I I had this conversation with um the chair earlier today and you know you guys can put those contingencies in your vote
in the language of your vote and what does the start clock start taking Mr. organ in your estimation? Um I I think I think a fair uh start date would be uh when when title um changes hands. So when the deed is uh
delivered uh to my client, the client takes ownership, we then begin the zoning uh process, the the site uh testing and and other due diligence. And within one year, we we should know, okay, we should have everything together, be
able to at least start, you know, some construction, probably some excavation, some some work. So, I think one year from the date, uh, the sale is closed. May I ask the city attorney, uh, from your perspective, if we were to go ahead
with that, would that cause from your perspective, what would your reaction be if we were to include that in a motion? I have no problem. Pardon me. I have no problem. No problem with that. I'm going to make a motion that we send this up to the full council with a fable recommendation
um with the with the condition that the pro the pro the the development be completed completed by one year from the date of the sale of the conveyance construction started
construction started okay thank you the date that construction starts thank you that's important I needed all that. That the federal recommendation that that that the organization has a year to finish the project a from the date of
the the beginning of construction which I means what shovel on the ground whatever that I mean yeah I I would say to to mirror the uh language uh uh in the city ordinance for the issuance of a special perminal variance. It' be the same language basically incorporated into we could have that language for you by the next
time. But but that would be the recommendation. We'll perfect it by next Tuesday. Correct. Um so a motion was made properly second by councelor Santiago. All those in favor say I. I. And the
eyes have it. Meetings next Tuesday, right? Meeting next Tuesday. Do we have a meeting next Tuesday? first and third Tuesday of the month. I don't know. We might be on break, but um there's no such thing as a break. We have first and third Tuesday. Be on break. So, congratulations. Uh you
guys get to move forward with this item um which has been uh moved to full counsel and that would be addressed in our next um in our next city council meeting hopefully for next Tuesday. Scheduled for next Tuesday. Thank you.
All right. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Okay. I don't have a gavvel. Gavl. I don't have my gavvel. Okay. Yeah, this is the same. We're just
declaring surplus, right? On all these, right? But it's all surplus. Declare a surplus and nothing changes with these, right? Yeah, you can do it as a block. Yeah. Are you ready? I am ready. I am ready. I am ready.
Ready. Ready. Okay. So, I'm looking to unt uh item 20525, declaration of surplus property 113 Exchange Street, map 171, lot 56.
Uh, item number 20625, declaration of surplus property to Mosio View Place, map 69, lot 20. Item number 20725, declaration of surplus property, 46 Cedar Street, map 168, lot 144.
Item 2082, Declaration of Surplus Property 266-2. Guys, could you please Item 20825, declaration of surplus property uh 266-272
Jackson Street, map 111, uh lot one, item number 20925, Declaration of Surplus Property 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-5. Item 210, declar 21025,
declaration of surplus property. Uh 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-6. Item 211-25, declaration of surplus property 63-65 Newberry Street, map 87, lot 517.
Am I in 20 210 or 211 at this point? Let me Okay, let me see. Uh, item 210, Declaration of Surplus Property, 63 uh-65 Newberry Street, Map 87, lot 51-6. Item 2125, Declaration of Surplus Property, 63-65, Newberry Street, Map
87, Lot 51-7. Item number 212-25, Declaration of Surplus Property 63-65 Newberry Street, Map 87, Lot 51-9. Item 213-25, declaration of surplus property 63-65,
Newberry Street, Map 87, lot 51-13. And lastly, item number 214-25, Declaration of Surplus Property 63-65, Newberry Street, map 87, lot 51-16. And this is all with the Home Equity
Theft Act. Uh, Miss Pascal, you have the floor to discuss uh this sound. Oh, yes. Yes. We need uh a motion to unable. Um, can I get a second? Second. All those in favor say I.
I. And the eyes have it. Miss Pasqual, you have the floor. Thank you so much. Um, so before you, we have the declaration of surplus for the home equity theft acts properties. Um, as you guys know from our last meeting,
these items are um items that fall under the Home Equity Theft Act. Um, they have a pressing timeline. We have to get back to the courts as to what we're going to do with these properties. Um, we are hoping to sell these
properties. We are owed uh taxes on all of these properties and we want to just be able to within a time frame that has been allotted respond back to the courts about what we're doing with the properties and move forward with um the procedure aligned in the home equity
theft act uh process which is for us to contract an appraiser and a realtor to handle the home equity theft act uh properties which I believe are a total of 13 of them. Um, last council, um, we, uh, we sent up with a favorable
recommendation the, uh, Jackson Street, and you mentioned it. So, we're not untabling that one. That one's no longer here. That's already at the full council. What item is that? Uh, 266-272 Jackson Street.
Uh, that's item number 208-25. 218-25. That was the one that we had a time frame that we had to get back to. And so that shouldn't be in there. That shouldn't be in there. Yes. Be in there, mind you. So, just like that property, we have to get back time frames. Um, I have heard
you guys loud and clear about parking um and addressing parking situations. Um, I will definitely be in contact with um our departments to make sure that particularly these home equity theft acts have to be run through the realtor and the appraiser. So, some of these
details that we could control under our regular process is no longer under our privy. It has to be under the realtor and the appraiser. Um, I can go through each individual property and give you all the information, but I for sake of time, I
think that we should as a block agree to put out a vote however you guys feel fit and move forward. discussions. I like to make a motion, Madam Chair. I'd like to make a motion that we take all these documents minus 208 should not
even be on the agenda on the on the agenda on the agenda. So everything else on there as a to set up to the full council without a recommendation because I we haven't we're not going to have a chance to go fully into this and I don't want to recommend report as a committee report. Right. Second. Okay. All those in favor say I. I. And
the eyes have it. We'll discuss this and be more prepared on. Yes. Perfect. Sounds good. Thank you. Okay. Is there any other items that need to be addressed, Miss Pasqual? Let me just double check because you know, please. Yes. Uh, it's the new business at the top.
Forgot. Okay. So, we have item number 264-25, the declaration of surplus property, 207 Marson Street, map 33, lot 170. Miss Pasqual, you have the floor. Thank you again, Madam Chair. We have before us the declaration of surplus for
real property 207 Marston Street um and Marston Street. This is the Tombello site just to give you guys a reference and to give you a little bit of background.
So much paperwork. Um we have this is huge. We have 207 Marc Street before us. Tax map 33, lot 17, a lot area of 114, 8 square feet in an industrial I3 zone.
The assessed value is 968,700 with an estimated tax annual annual tax of 17,833 with 77 cents. We have put together an draft RFP for your review. I'm not sure
if you guys received it. I did uh speak with um the clerk and I told her to make sure you guys had all the information, but I brought it with me. Thank you. And I have the draft RFP.
Yeah. Can just for clarity purposes um and this is not on you. No, I get it. But is there a reason why like it always seems like um some of these pertinent documents are just never provided with the like instead of being handed on the spot
like I'm just hoping timestamps of when I've delivered them to Teresa or your clerk and I've also touched base with Eileen um on the phone earlier today to make sure that she that everything was prepared because I want to ensure that you guys are prepared because I know it comes up. So, I did
have a conversation with her. Um, she thanked me for reminder and I thought you guys were going to be ready. If you're not, you're not. Yeah. I don't um I'll double check our, you know, our bins in terms of where all
of our um documents are issued. But, um I counselors, do you guys have uh the RFP that is being discussed right now? I just want to make sure I'm I'm not speaking for everyone. No, I don't I I don't have it. I'm just
looking through my emails to see if we might have gotten it. Did you send it by through you? Did you just send it by email as well? I have them physically if you guys don't want to look. I don't mind. I mean, I don't I rather I'm a sure I'm a paper document type of person.
I like it. Madam Chair, may may I ask is this is not a the plan. You have the floor. Thank you, ma'am. This is not a home equity theft act. It's not. So the timing of this is not as critical as the other. Which is why I said if you're not prepared, I'm totally fine with if you guys
So up to you guys. You guys call the shots. I'm willing to hear a recommended motion on this item. I what I my recommended motion because it's already 7:30 and we're half hour past the 7:00 meeting. I'd like to table this matter. I'd like to return this to you. Yes.
So that you don't because I'm I'm sure I'm not going to have for the next time we talk about it. And then you can just bring that back. I'll try. I'm being honest. I can It should be fine. Thank you. So, there is already a motion on the table today.
Okay. Probably second. All those in favor say I. I. And the eyes have it. Um I believe we are all set for today. Okay. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. Second. Okay. All those in favor say I. I. And the eyes have it. Thank you very much.
That's what you said. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the intervent. relations. Councelor Gregory del Rosario present. You want it? No. should continue.
Vice Chair Selena Reyes present. Councelor Fidelina Santiago is noted absent. Um and chairman Mark Lance of America stands one nation under God indivisible.
Suant to chapter 20 the acts of 2022. This meeting of the ordinance committee is being conducted both in person and via remote participation. A reminder that persons who would like to listen or view this meeting while in progress may either attend in person at the location here or use the following access
locations including the Facebook Lauren City Council page and the YouTube Lauren City Council page. Um if there's no objection, we're going to kick this thing off right now with we usually take our city employees first. Um I see that um that um that attorney Hooton is here.
If there's no if there's no objection like to take 26625 as the first item this evening. See no objection. Attorney Hooton. Uh good evening. Uh this is a change in the ordinance. Uh this is regarding a um
longevity pay. Um we're replacing the old longevity pay which is listed in there. Uh where we paid really kind of weird years. We paid 9 years, 16 years, 17 years, 18 years and just codified it into 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years. It's
actually the um one we are currently using. So, we are even using even though it hasn't been adopted, that's what people are getting paid. So, I would just ask that you adopt the um this has been presented to me by the CAPO, the new sub paragraph 2.140.200
of the municipal code. Are there any questions by members of the committee on on um on this proposal? Just so I'm clear, you're just codif you're just codif Say it again. You're just codifying what the agreements are with what we're paying currently. The rate the written ordinance rate was never
changed to reflect what we're actually paying. This is what we're actually paying. So I've changed the ordinance to reflect that. Okay. I'm looking for do we need a public hearing on that or just a straight adoption? Okay. Straight adoption. Looking for a motion? Motion to adopt talking
said to the full council favor recommendation perhaps the public hearing. Motion to send the full council with a favorable recommendation. Motion made second made by councelor Delaro. Second vice chair Reyes discussion. Seeing none I'll call the question. All in favor say
I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you, attorney. All right. Um, we're just going to go to the top of the page of the folks who are here. And I just went through the room. What's that?
And she happens to be the first one. Yeah, that's the first one. That's where we're going. Yeah. Um, so if there's no objection, number 29225, Chico Summer Shootout at Okonnell Park. Miss Carbio, welcome.
Good evening. Good evening. Tell us why you're here. Your proposal in brief. Well, no caravala 31 Sergeant Street. I'm here to use this um I put in the I did a
mistake. I put in the in the application on citizen serve um okoner is the star store park in high street and I do have the paperwork here from
recreation and there is so you want it. You want it at Storo, not Okonnell. Is that right? Yeah. It's not the Okono. The Okono is where they playing basketball this year. Yeah. Uh I want to use the Star War on High Street.
Got it. Um the paper from recreation department says Sour Park. It was um when I called her, I told her to um So Park, but then in citizen serve cuz they play in there. I put a corner
the dates. Well, let's see the application date. Yes, sir. Yep. They've got it. I got it. Yep. I'm just looking it up. Um August 17th. Yep. 1 to 5. Yep. At uh Stole Park. Yep.
mic and speaker. Now, I don't live in this neighborhood, but I I do know that if I were to live in this neighborhood, I we want to have the noise kind of at a dull roar like just Yeah. Yeah. I live in that neighborhood. Okay. So, you know, okay.
Any comments, questions, advice? Nothing. Okay. Motion to send full cons. Second. Motion made properly seconded. Discussion. See none. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I post. No. The eyes have it. Our next meeting
is scheduled for next Tuesday. Okay. I'm hearing ugly rumors. I don't believe until I actually see it. So, we're scheduled for next Tuesday. Okay. So, I'd be I I would be here if I'm you. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Next item in order is 29325, a church
service in the park at Camping Common um August 17th. I know someone's here because I I already talked to somebody. 293. Hi. Perfect. Name and address. We'll start
with that. 620 SX Street. 620 X Street. Essex Street. Okay. And what's the what's the request? She is requesting um the common park that she's trying to do a service on
August 17. Okay. August 17th. So, I see it's camping common. I see that's the name of the official name of the park. Um, I see that uh you have
approvals from the recreation department for August 17th, a start time at 8 and an end time at 3 p.m. Yes. So, that's the most important thing that doesn't seem to be. And of course, I believe there's going I haven't heard anything laced on that, but I think this
has there construction started. Has anybody seen any construction over there? No. There's supposed to be construction, but near where the the the the um the Bernstein band stand is in that big circle area. So, there's supposed to be some work there done. So,
um So, there should be instructions. Pardon me. What do you say? So, there's a there there's some construction. If it hasn't started, it's going to start to deal with the Bernstein band stand. It's in the park where that big circular cement circle
is. That area, that's the area that's going to be under construction. Uh could you ask the individual where she was looking to have her event? I just want to make sure she understands where it is. beside that area from the park.
So, you're asking for you're asking for a permit to use the camping known common. I don't think we have any objections. We just want to make sure that you don't have the expectation that you want to have it where potentially that construction is. So, knowing that where I mean just be aware that you can't have it there. So, I just want you
to know do you know where you want to? It's a big comment. Where in the comment do you look to to have the event? She I can't hear Havil Street. Is it near where the Oliver is near there? Senior center.
I mean senior center. Yes. Okay. Okay. That's fine. I I don't really have any other questions on this. Do you want to talk about the noise then? That's your That's your thing, isn't it? How many people you expecting? How big is the event?
I'm not really my church, but I'm helping. Yeah. Probably 50 or 60 people. Okay. Last summer we we we don't say no to churches most likely, but last summer we have so many
complaints for the churches. They were too loud. The speakers were too loud. Music, Christian music, which I love, was too loud. So, and I was in an event in the park. I was in an event in a park that was different than a church. And we couldn't
listen to anything else that was happening because the church was too loud. So, this year what we telling the churches is to be mindful of of the noise and the people there also people in the park. They're not there for the church and that will you know loud noise
will bother them too. So, That's it. That's it. But do you need to So um I understand that if they could be in any area from the park. Um there's a church close to the senior center next to the senior center and um if you see
that there's a different service you can move to another side. the floor. It should be it shouldn't be another church in the park. It will be probably will be just just our church on that day. There should be there should be no other
permits for that part on the comment for that. That's the only thing that should be scheduled on the comment. So there's no conflicts. So she can use Yeah. But so she can use any part of the park that she wants. It's just her church will be in the park on that day
hopefully. Okay. Okay. Do we have a motion on the floor? Motion is a full cons recommendation. Second. Motion made and seconded. Any discussion? Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it.
Thank you. Uh next t please come next Tuesday. next Tuesday for the she has to come back. Yes, this is this is the committee and for the final approval you need to come back for the for the full council until that day. It will be like every Tuesday.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, we so we're just we are at committee and then what we do is we make a recommendation to all nine of us. That next meeting is on Tuesday if we I suspect that's when it we have a vote on all of us and then when it passes that's
when you get the permit. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Uh, next is document number no objection number document 29425 evangelism in the park in the camp common this time for
September 20th. Let's just start with the name name and address for the record. address 220. My name is and I'm here for the representation of my church Jesus Christ
Church. I'm part of one of the church. I'm a deacon and I'm here with the permission of my pastor. I'm here to request um that day for a service um because right now we are in
difficult time and we just want to bring a good message for other people um of hope having to have hope. And I'm here again to request that day to do that evangelism.
What is it called? Campingon. Campyon Common. The short stories there are three young men that died during World War II and and then Common was named after them that family. What's that?
We just try to educate just a little bit. I'm sorry. Say it again. We also a letter of recommendation from our pastor. I don't know if I give it to you. That's that's very nice. Um that's very good. The thing that we're looking for
which we have as equally as um compelling is is Adie is um approval saying that that it's free that day. So that's really important. So, um, counselors, so
the same thing to her, loud music, keep it low. Hopefully, we don't get complaints. I mean, the police get called, we get called because we, you know, people call the counelors and and again, last summer was crazy with the churches. So, we we
trying to keep it low this year. Hopefully we can keep a low this year and we get lower the complaints and the police work a little less if if it's not a little noisy. See the um Christian. Um the important part here just to bring
the message of God work and we going to have music but we don't we're not going to have a band or loud music because we have to be um as a Christian we have to be an example to the community as well.
Motion to send full concept in favor of recommendation. Second. Motion made. Second. And I don't want to repeat what I said earlier regarding the the the construction. Just be aware of where that is and just have an idea of where you're going when that date comes. So, you get the comment, but just be
aware that part of it might be unavailable. Okay. Motion's been made and properly second. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Please come next Tuesday. You want to submit that for the record? You're welcome to.
Yep. You're welcome to. Okay. Thank you so much. Clerk, if you just put that with the rest of the information later. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. See you Tuesday. Thank you. You're welcome. Next item. Um there's a
lot of people I think for this one. Nope, not this one. 27125 Oneway Chandler Street. Okay. Good afternoon. Uh my name is Oddley Jones. Uh 34 Chandler Street Lawrence.
Uh I've uh owned property on that street for over 17 years. And uh the the traffic now it's a very narrow street. Uh I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but it's
only about 25 ft wide, which typically you need about 40 ft for good uh two-way traffic. So now it seems as if there there's a lot of traffic that's coming
through the street trying to bypass uh traffic lights. People are trying to uh take a shortcut through there and uh there's no way uh you can have traffic passing one another with vehicles parked
on the side of the road. There's just not enough space for vehicles to pass comfortably unless you you know so now if you go by there the vehicles are parked they're parked halfway on the
sidewalk because you know to to try and alleviate that but that even that is not enough. So, uh, you know, I've witnessed a lot of times where traffic is backed up. Somebody had, you know, the only way
they can pass is so if somebody reverses and, you know, find a spot where they can pull into a driveway for the other vehicle to pass. It It is just not wide enough for uh two-way traffic. So, uh,
I'm proposing that this this street be converted to a one-way street from Medford Street down to Water Street. If you know the city does a study and finds that the oneway
should be the other way around from Water Street to Medford Street, I have no problem with that. But uh it it cannot continue as a two-way street without having friction and you know
some dire consequences. So uh you know I'm bringing it to the council's attention for some action to be taken. Thanks. Thank you. What's your name, sir? Oddly Jones. Last name is Jones. Mr. Jones. Yes.
So thank you, Mr. Jones. So, uh, just as a reminder to my colleagues, we did send this to the DPW/engineering and the police department at our last meeting. I just went through our our stack here. I don't see that we received anything from the police department in our stack or from DPW, but we already
started the process. So, you should be at least have some comfort knowing that that uh a few weeks ago we started to get that trying to get information because what we're going to need, what we like to rely on is both a police department's
recommendation and also a recommendation from our city engineer. That's going to hold true for the other conversation coming back in a little bit, but um but that's that's we're waiting for a response from them. So, we haven't gotten it yet, but it started is the point.
Uh is there any way I could um you know follow up and and see what you know? Uh sure. What I would do u who's your who's your district counselor or you at large counselor Marl okay you have a choice I I would rely if
I'm you would rely on either your district counselor or maybe one of your at large counselors um and just say anything new on that proposal and and those counselors are working for you and I think that they would um could could ask those questions and maybe give you
more of a feedback we have yes we've gotten something or we're expecting something in the next couple of weeks or whatever. At least they can have a so you can come down as often as you want. That's not a problem. But I want to make better use of your time as well and we may not have No, no. I I I just wanted to know like
you know if they said uh okay let's let's have a public hearing on this that that I I So just so you're aware I wouldn't be able to miss that. So you know and what will happen is this so you're aware of the process. What you are asking for is a change of the law,
the change of the ordinances, and whenever we change an ordinance in the city, it requires a public hearing. So, let's say we get the stuff from the DPW and the police department. And then this committee looks at it and says, "Okay, that's a great idea. We we've heard from
them. We're going to set it up with a recommendation." Then it goes to the full council where all nine of us are going to have a vote. Our first vote is to order a public hearing because they're looking to change the law. Usually that's non-controversial. That usually happens without any problems and
then it gets published and then at some point whatever the date is, it comes before the council again for that public hearing. That's why it's important, I think, that you've got a connection with a counselor, preferably your district counselor or one of the atlarge counselors who can then tell you, yeah, it's coming up for a vote next Tuesday
or whatever the date is. So you can have that kind of thing because I don't think that you don't typically get like in a butter's notice. It just happens that we do it, right? But having that connection with a counselor is very helpful. I see. Okay. All right. So that's that. Um Oh, do you want to say something counsel?
Yeah. Through you and and and my district is right is right next to yours which I'm district C. I represent district C and I'm working on some also trying to change the law on one ways. And what I got from the engineering department is that they have a bunch of street on that area and
they're doing the study all at once. So if they're going to change anything, they got to see how the traffic flow in that whole area. So they they are working on it. I I sent an email uh like a week ago and I got the assistant engineer telling me that they they haven't finished the study and they working on the bunch of streets at the
same time. So it should be coming soon. But again, connect either with an large consular or Vivian Mar which is your consular and see where they are on that area. But I know they're working on a bunch of street up water street and those those streets right up there. Okay, that's good. That's good.
Thank you. If there's nothing else, I'm looking for a motion to ret. Motion to table. Second. Motion made by council del Rosario, second by vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. So, we're going to leave it right where it is. It's not going anywhere. And um we're
waiting for more information from other city agencies. Okay. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Jones. All right. Next. Ah. 27525 resident zone resident parking zone in V2 Lehey school area Irving A Wilmont
Street Avon Street Duran Street Courier Street Trinity Street I'll keep going through street um good evening good evening let me adjust okay that's good I have to
figure depth uh Yonas Stanza 37 Brew Street Lawrence A petition has been provided to city council of a 111 residents of the immediate area around
the Francis M. Ley school about the difficulty of parking that exists. And with the new employees, there will be over 125 new cars in the neighborhood where there is absolutely no parking already. We have major problems. Fights
amongst residents, fighting over people in front of driveways by people double plugging and and uh it has been a nightmare on your document. You have it listed as B2. It is correct. It is B3 is
the lay. Are all those streets all those streets streets of B3? Yep. And um the the the issue about this parking was brought up
two and a half years ago when the first public hearings were done with the lay school. We discussed it with city planner, the city representatives, I forget who was there. There were people in the mayor's office, the school department, and the police department.
this issue about additional parking. When the original building was there of the lazy school, it had 78 cars parking in its own parking lot around the building. Now that the building is 2 and
1/3 times larger, the the proposed number of employees will be over 125 and most of them non residents of the city that would not be walking to the school. That means every morning we will have 12
to 125 cars plus all of the buses being bringing all the students in. That neighborhood cannot handle the number of cars. At this point there are no available parking places on my block
alone. From I live on Bruce from Avon Street to Pod Street. There are 78 cars in that one block. That's one block. And mine is the widest street in that
neighborhood. All of the other ones are even more narrow. This issue was brought up about putting a parking garage under the building and very foolish and very silly answers were given back to us that
we can't do it because it's a flood plane. Then why are you building a building in the flood plane where now you'll have electrical wiring, plastic, uh the interior walls damaged by a flood
when if you put a garage underneath it, it would have solved that problem. If there was a flood, you take the hose and you wash out the silt. But again, when the argument was brought up and said it's going to be a police, then the
police said that they couldn't do anything about it because they only implement the law. They do not create the law. So, we're back to square one again. And the same issue still exists. They told us this would be resolved
before the opening of the school. August 18th, 1 month and 1 week from today will be the opening of the building. The dry run and the school will open up on Labor Day. Now, where is
the parking? There is none. And this not only creates a dilemma for the residents of that immediate area, but it also impedes on the education of the children. Because when the children
cannot start their classes because the teachers can't find a place to park and that happens day after day, it's only going to create more chaotic system within the school and and it just leads to more problems. This has been
discussed by the residents for two and a half years and there is no resolution. sending us to anybody else at this point is an absolute waste of time. It was a dead end issue. School committee, dead
end, police department, not our responsibility. So, we're bringing it back to city council. Something needs to be done. Uh,
I believe at this point one of the other gentlemen would like to speak. Good evening. I'm Nick Stelig. I'm the pastor of Community Baptist Church, 45 Avon Street. I'm also a resident 310 Salem Street here in Lawrence. Um, I pastor a bilingual church there in the
area. I've gotten to know the neighbors as a community leader. I've gotten to know some of the residents there pretty universally. It's understood. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out this is a problem. It should have been dealt with to begin with, but there's no reason to cry over spilled milk. It happened. It shouldn't have, but it did.
Uh there's not enough parking for the school. Um there's not enough space for buses. Um there's not enough parking in the streets now for people. Um and so there's a lot of ideas. There's 111 people just that we got in the neighborhood that say, "Hey, this is a problem." uh in the process of
discussing this problem. There have been a lot of people that have offered ideas and solutions. Um and the challenge is one parking and the city of Lawrence is a mess. So we don't have as big of a group as we'd like to have here because it's hard to find parking to get here. The other thing is meeting sometimes run
late and uh and so my recommendation and I think it's been pretty well received by the residents is uh to make our building available for a a meeting with all those involved. One of the challenges that we found is that this committee says go talk to the police
department. We go talk to the police department. The police department says we got to talk to DPW. And it seems like nothing in the city moves quickly. It's it's small city government. That's the way it goes. Unless you're a building project that doesn't have enough parking
and then you go right through. Um, and so our recommendation is to get all the people that keep pointing the fingers to the other people into one place with the residents in our community that are actually affected by the decisions that are made. Um, to to hash out a solution
to this problem. I don't want to see kids in a classroom without a teacher because their teacher can't find a a parking space. I don't want to see the mess that it's going to be when we have snowbanks and and we have to get buses and teachers to school and people have to get out of their houses to get to work and all the mess that's going to
create. And I think we probably have the solution in our neighborhood. The the problem is is there's there's not really an interest in talking to the people about a solution to the problem that that we've seen for two and a half years and no one else seems to be concerned about. And so what what we're trying to what I'm trying to do and I think what
we'd like to do is talk to the people that actually make the decisions, get them in the same room and and have a discussion about what is the solution to this problem because not not coming up with a solution is not going to be an option uh when it becomes an issue at the school with residents with accidents
and all that that that's going to involve with kids running around with not a lot of space on the streets. All these things are going to be issues down the road. And so we'd like to ex make our space available to come up with a solution rather than being kicked to the
police department to say, "Hey, you got to talk to them about it." Again, they enforce the law. They don't make or they don't change ordinances. That's this committee and and and the city council's job. Um and so to get all of us together so we can't say go talk to them. We're waiting on them so that we all are on
the same page to say, "All right, here's a solution to this problem." A solution's got to become got to got to come quick. Um, again, school's coming up soon. Um, and and it's going to be a really obvious problem. Um, if if it's not dealt with before, it's it's already going to be a problem. We're we're
already behind the eightball. Um, but that's not because of because the residents were blindsided. We knew this was going to be a problem from day one. Um, but there hasn't been an interest from the council and I guess from the decision makers in trying to figure out a solution with the people that are most affected by the decisions they're
making. The issue that we were thinking about is having the teachers being shuttled in finding available pling maybe at the Buckley building and then provide shuttle service. No matter what you decide
you're going to do, money as the vasement, I know that there was discussion about buying Farah's funeral home in parking lot on Lawrence Street and create parking there. You can't find a suitable location for him to relocate.
That's going to cost you a million dollars. If you take immigrant place on Short Street and convert that into parking, again, that's going to have its own issues. That's another million dollars needs to be spent. This is only
one school. Two and a half blocks away is the Oliver School, which is even larger and has no parking also. So, we're going to over fringe with them also. You know, the no matter what it comes down to, you're going to have to
spend at least a million dollars to find the resolution. What we need to find is an immediate um band-aid cure. What do we do when we open the doors? Because the minute the
doors are open, the problems will begin and only will intensify with the weather when winter comes. Now, if the Bugly build the Bugley um garage can be used for teachers and shuttle
them back and forth, that may resolve the issue for at least maybe the year and give you time to find a resolve, but something needs to be done. The can can no longer be kicked down the street.
It's been kicked for two and a half years and everyone keeps on saying, "Let's talk about it." No, let's stop talking. Let's do something about it. And the frustration within the
neighborhood is is profound. And that's all basically what we need to say at this point. Good evening everybody. I own a property at 9 Oh, sorry. My name is Pedro Kalcano. I own a property at 9 Courier Street. We actually lost that house to a
fire in 2011. And back then, there were only a few vehicles on on the street. Right now, there's so many cars that even I have a difficult time in my personal vehicle getting up the street. Imagine trying to get, you know, a fire engine up that road. It's going to be
impossible. I have an elderly father who had already had four heart attacks. How is an ambulance going to get up that road if the parking situation is not resolved? You have people parking at the end of the street and they're always there. You can't get up the street. When
winter comes, this is going to be an absolute disaster. We need to start coming up with a solution. And I do appreciate that the school was built. I did go to the Ley school. My son went to the Ley school. But the way this process was done, it was unfair to the residents
of the area. That's all I have to say. Just one more here. And I I obviously this is a complex issue. This is why my recommendation is let's come together and talk about this. This is going to be tabled because we have more questions than answers. And I get that.
Um but I'd appreciate not tableabling it and then not listening to the residents that that you're supposed to represent. Um and actually sit down with some residents with people that actually can do something here. um rather than kicking it to we're waiting to hear from the police department. We're waiting to hear from board of education. We'll do
the work of getting all those people in the same room. Um we just need you there to to listen to the concerns of the residents. There's there's a bunch of people that came here to talk about this. None of us want to be here. Um but it's a problem and it needs to be resolved. And so my recommendation is
that we would have a meeting with the counselors in this room and other counselors. Wendy Luzon would be one. Um she's our our counselor. um to to work out a solution to hear the people out on this issue. So that's my recommendation. I know it's going to be tabled. There's
no reason to to move forward on this. There's more work to be done. I'm just asking that we do the work efficiently. Uh that hears out all the all the residents. Um that that's my recommendation. Thank you. So what what has happened is
um we actually had this on the agenda a couple weeks ago. So we've already sent the information. you may to the police department. You may have already heard of the previous applicant. We've already started that process. So, uh looking for their recommendation because what is before us is the request for permit
parking on all those streets. That is what's before us. Not the meeting. Sure. Not any other solutions. Sure. What's before us myopically focused is permit parking on those five streets. So that is what we are now dealing with
that's before us. So that's just I think there's two different things, right? No, and I I think it's the same thing. That is a solution to the to the wider problem. And I think understanding why it needs to be permit parking, you have to take in the larger problem of safety of the residents, safety of the kids, all those details come into that
decision. Sure. So, so I, so there's there's two different things going on. So I just want you, we're all clear about this first phase or first um request. Sure. So I don't know when that's going to come in. We just double check to see if
we got anything. As we all know, this is complex when you're going to have permit parking on all these streets. That's complex. So, I I I understand where you're I'm understanding where you're coming from with respect to bureaucracy and the and the speed of government and how things can be delayed and the
timing. I'm aware of the complexities. You are living the complexities, but I'm aware of the complexities. So, it's a little different, but I get it. Right. So um which goes to the second point. What you want to do is something that's kind of outside this committee. You are
offering to the council and to whoever the decision makers. Sure. That you want to bring us all into one location and you're offering to host this at your church. Sure. U which I think is fantastic. Um, I I I I
think that you would need to work with your You may have heard me talk to the previous person, work with your counselor. Miss Luzon has been outfront on this issue on your behalf. We hear from her. I've heard from her um very passionately about this, very
eloquently. She is representing your frustrations very well. Um, because I'm hearing it from her. Um, so you need to work with her on making that happen. I can't commit to anybody except for myself. If you schedule a
meeting at your church, if I don't have a conflicting city council meeting or a conflict, I will make every effort to be there. I will do my best to be there. And Yonas knows that I if if that's if at all possible, I will be there um as as to part of that. I don't know if I as as an
individual have a solution because we are down this road, but I think it's important to listen and I'm willing to listen. Sure. Even more than we have tonight. There's more and I think people need to be heard. So, I'm willing to listen. I I think we agree the permit the permit thing is is a solution, but it is a
complex solution and that's where we're you with permit there comes uh the enforcement. How do you do that? How do you get permits to everybody? And those are all things that have to be discussed and and what we're asking is that we'd be part of that conversation. Um again, I know it's going to be tabled and
that's why we, you know, I'm here to say, hey, let's not just let this sit on the table until somebody forgets about it or become before it becomes a bigger issue. Uh you know, and so this is an opportunity to speak out on that. So I'll let my colleagues, but that's my recommendation to you. Sure. I appreciate that. Is to go back to
and we're working those channels as well and work with council Luzon, have her spearhead this. She can be our conduit. That's her job. Sure. So, she should be able to talk with us and say, "Listen, I got a meeting coming up in two Thursdays from now." Can you make it? Um, do you have any contacts with police or she can talk to
me about who you who you working with the police department? Well, I'm working with this officer and this office. Okay. Then she I mean those little things like that, but she needs to spearhead this with you. Sure. Of course. Uh, but I will I I can support that. Anybody else want to talk on this matter? I'm gonna go with the vice chair for Oh, counselor Del Rosario. Sure.
Thank you. And and you're saying table it while this table here is being worked on because again the request that we have here as chair of plan says it's the resident parking permit. So we send that to the police department and they will come back with
a recommendation when it comes to the permits right yes no they are the one that bring that to us and and wow let's say table again it's being worked on and when it comes to parking district C also we we don't have the schools we're not
there yet but it's going to also impact my side and I have implemented some resident permits sure but again it's it's the the police time the way they work we honestly don't know to be honest but they come back with a with a reports
they're huge to deal with it like those are decision they already made of petitioners like resident parking and also handicap parking they decision they already made they bring it to us and then we make the determination as LA plan says I'm also available when Luzon
gets all of you guys together Luzon is the one we cannot you know decide when we're going to go she could she could be the one getting all this together with you and if I'm available, we'll be there and we'll bring engineerings if they available and also the police department. But in the meantime, this is
being worked on. I don't want you guys to think that that is not. But the request that we have here is being worked on and and it taking the the correct time that it takes for even one street to get a a a parking permit, it takes them weeks.
It's and Yeah. And you have tons of streets. So, I'm assuming that they doing the due diligent. I I want to say that they doing it because I I believe in the police department. So while this table here is being worked on and in the meantime again connect with Wendy and have Wendy do all this. We had a conversation with the superintendent
once they were here. Wendy was very voice about it. They say they're also looking for a solution at the school department when we were here. So but at the end I think we all coming together in the room will bring more answers to you guys and maybe more options for us to see. I mean I I
never thought of the shadow service. It never it never crossed my mind. Shadow service from backly garage to me is great. You know teachers could park there would drive them over. So that's those ideas we can all together in line maybe the the school department and they'll say you know we put the money to
do the shadow service but definitely work with Wendy and we'll I'll be there if I'm available. The plan said councelor the plan said he will be there and I know councelor large will be there if we're available. So definitely a good idea to be all together. But I mean don't feel that table here is not being
worked. I promise you it's being worked at the request that we have here. All the all the new ideas that you guys have that will be the greatest idea ever is not they're not here. We just dealing with the resident parking only. Right. And it's being worked on at this point. You want to say something counselor?
Okay. No, I want to be echo with my colleague. I want to mention when we have something table it's not mean we not focus on that it's waiting for the result but uh what you mentioned you planning to have a resident community meeting I love to be
there also I would love to invite some department to uh moving forward the conversation to understand more better what is the the process if what solution we can find it so we are so happy to be there and also
to support to invite some department to moving forward this conversation. I I thank you for your I thank you for your time and I look forward to that that meeting. So is it something else? We're going to wrap this up unless there's something urging you want to say. I have one thing to say. Okay, sure. Go ahead.
I don't want to get caught on legalities. It's not that we're in love with resident bargaining sneakers. That's not the issue. That was an attempt to to rally the neighbors to say here is a possibility. If that does not function with a
recommendation by traffic department and everything else, first of all, it it's a headache already. So, it's not like we're trying to alleviate headache. We already have the headache now. We just don't want to compound it. So don't get caught on the legality about the
stickers. The major question is a resolution for the teachers and shuttling them, bringing doing something appropriate, more money by the state, building a garage in the neighborhood, taking over
immigrant place and making it an immigrant parking lot. Whatever it is, something needs to be done and it should have been started 2 and 1/2 years ago when we voiced this the first time and on that I think that's the clarity
of the point. Sure. Uh there's a gentleman in the back who I wish to speak if you have something brief you want to mention. Name and address please sir. Uh my name is Brillio Caseres and Fit Maliff Street Lawrence is close to brother pizza and
be close to the uh to the le school and uh what about the parking lot you have over here in the common street? Why all the teachers don't come into the parking lots and you get a box and bring it into the to the school? I think this is a good idea because the neighborhoods been
there for for uh for years. So I think this public parking lot over here is is empty. So why the teacher don't get all together at the same time but it's 7:00 and you have a big box over there you take it to the lane school it's going to be like 15 minutes and all the
neighborhood is going to be quiet uh relax going to be in peace and everybody continue doing what they do. I think uh that's a good solution. It's very close. It's empty. I think it doesn't belong to the city. So I think
this is one solution because the the street we have I've been there for 19 years close to le school and we we have a lot of cars like they said they parking double parking whatever whatever they
can do they get a private parking because they have no no parking lots in the street. So, I don't know what you guys have in mind to do with the other people we have around there. Right there, Bruce uh brush tree in the
corner. We have a I think a lady like 80 years something. So, I think you guys for me I know maybe you got to spend money but he said you got to has to spend like a million dollars to fix
something, right? So speaking with the people, the teachers, okay, at the same time 6:45, 7 o'clock, get one bus right over there. When they get there, you drop off 10 minutes and then time the same the same thing.
Gotcha. Go to le school, get all the teachers, bring it to the park to the parking lot over here. I think this the solution. All right. Thank you, sir. just as a reminder that and we're gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna ask for a motion to send this not yet to to the police department for
a second time so they can get the sense that this is urgent. Um but I just want to remind everyone here that we went a little bit beyond our boundaries tonight. We're supposed to be focusing on the the matter before us, the proposal before us, which is permit parking. But it I and I think you shared
it because no one objected. I think it's important that we hear the frustration. It's important that we get the idea. we get the sense of where you're coming from and the potential solutions. There's answers to some of those and I'm not going to go into right now, but I want I just want to thank you for that. But our our our only because our rules
say our focus is on what is before us before us permit. Um but that's why that second option about having that meeting where there are no rules like that. You can talk about whatever you want to talk about. You can go about this resolution. you don't have this parliamentary stuff that here that can that can sometimes
delay or block things from moving forward because we're very strict. But I want to thank you for that and what I'm looking for right now counselors is a motion. How many street does I'm sorry sir. How many street are more like three or four street like Bruce Street? Uh every street your proposal your proposal has the
following streets. Irving a Wilmont Street Avon Street Durant Street Curry Street Trinity Street Brew Street and Saunders Street. those that's that's what your proposal is and that's what's in before the police department. So that's what we're that's what's before us right now.
So um you are going to find out one way the other but in the meantime there looks like there's a second track going on that things are working simultaneously. Um and like I said I'm looking for a motion that we send this to the police department a second time as a reminder that we're waiting for a response. Is there a motion?
Motion to send to the police department for a second review. And can can we mark it urgent? Second. Motion made by council deario, seconded by vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Chairman, just a quick question. You
said that was a big B3. Say it again. A B3. Just B3. The the the the chair of the historic commission suggested or told us that he believed that's a an R3 area. B something I say wrong.
B3 is what he's he's saying. Our paper says B2. He is he is saying that's not accurate. He has seen that and says that he believes that's a B3. I don't have it a map. He could be right. I don't know. Okay.
Okay. He might be right. I have no So, so we'll double check that. We'll double check that. We're not gonna we're not going to argue with your experience because I think you beat all of us. So, yeah. All right. Um, so that motion is the table has been
passed as well. So, we're on. All right. Um, I think everybody I I think on everybody here who wanted to speak on on all the matters. So, we're going to go to the top of the agenda. Uh, document 28625, approval of the notice of dedication for the James J. O'Neal Park. Looking for a motion to table.
Motion to table. Second. Motion made. The first one, 286. We're going to the top. Motion to the tables been made by Council De Rosario, second by Vice Chair Reyes. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Next is a
document 28725, home rule petition to allow article 97, legislative protection for parcel of land identified as a James J. O'Neal Park. I'm looking for a motion to table that. Motion to table. Second. Motion made by councelor Delaro, second by vice chair Reyes.
All in favor say I. I. Post. No. The eyes have it. Handicap parking at 28 Springfield Street. I place this on at the request of a constituent looking to send that um to the police department for their review. Motion to the police department for review. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosario.
Second by vice chair Reyes. Any discussion? See none. I'll call the question on ferris. Say I. I. Opposed. No. The eyes have it. Next is uh 28925 handicap parking 3 bigalow street. This was um looking for a motion to send to the police department. Motion to send to the police department
for review. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosaro. Second by vice chair Reyes. Discussion. See none. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I. Oppos. No. The eyes have it. Next is 29025 Handicap Parking at 10 Hemlock Street. Looking for a motion. Motion center police department for review. Second. Motion made by council del Rosario.
Second by vice chair Reyes. Discussion. See no discussion. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I. Post. No. The eyes have it. Next is document 29125. Remove or modify. Let's take a look at that. The no parking signage. Hold on.
can give you a comment about this item because I'm very familiar. Are you familiar? Oh, yeah. Please do. Well, I'm looking for it. Sure. What do you got? Uh, the moving forward to modify
this because her house sign a sign because the place you want to put the hand sign is signing sign is request for
this neighbor and they block at I think two space and she want to modify that part because she now requesting a no parking sign in front house.
Okay. So, she wants to remove the no parking sign and have a handicap parking sign in its place. Is that is that the request? Okay. This is really weird. Why have you have you looked at this? This modified because I requested a handicap sign for her.
Okay. So, um, so it's actually two different things. If there's no parking there, she wants that removed. Need a public hearing for that. Then she wants a handicap parking. Well, that's a different that's a second thing. So, then you need a matter for that. So,
it's it's it's two matters. A process. She want to modify the title because the no parking sign is in their house.
So we already have a proposal for the for for handicap at 343 South Broadway. We already have it. I'm only mention because I request the handicap. Oh, so it's already on there. You mentioned it's in process. It's in process. Okay. We don't have it today in our packet. I only mention
Okay. Okay. All right. So that makes it a lot simpler. So we have to worry about the handicap parking. Don't have to worry about it. Okay. You just want the no parking. So we want to remove the no parking. So So what we what I don't know is it just no parking in front of the
house or is it no parking from like her house to the corner? How far is the no parking? Let me look it up. 343. I'll look it up. Yeah. the the neighbor next to her request a
no parking sign and block I think two space as your friend Jr. Yes. Yes. And they block two sign for him and
so we want uh Miss Mali is looking forward to modify because the sign is in front house. Okay. Okay. So, I see the I see the So, it's on the intersection of right near Kenneth Street. So, I don't know how many parking spots there are.
No, they they 343. 343. So, they want they want to take that out. So, they want to allow parking there. That's what you would do. They want to allow parking there. Right. So, there's what? There's cat
street in street. So, it's in between. Yeah. At the same time they have they painting a yellow line. Are there there's no meters there are there? Not that far. And the owner of the house want to remove the one side.
No, no, I get that. I just want to know. You can pass by. Well, what I believe is they want to allow parking until they get the handicap spot. No, I get that too. Yeah, because before the offices came to to
the first time because there are no parking. We go and take uh the mirror and they decide to put
in the corner but the owner say what is in the corner because I don't I don't know no parking. So she does she have a corner lot? Is that her house right there? So she wants it from her house to the corner. No parking.
No. No. No. the other house that's 3:43 I'm told this person request no parking sign any time and they had yellow line in front her house but she requested now a
handicap according to the officer we can put the handic sign handicap sign in the corner but she asked me why because I don't request requesting
no parking sign any time in front of her house. What's before us? She wants to remove the no parking. That's all that's before us. And she wants it in front of her house. And my Google map is showing me that that's the house. So once we send this to the police department, the police department going to say 343.
They're going to look right in front of that house and then they're going to say, "All right, no parking." I guess that means no parking from there to the curb. Or is it by you looking in the corner in this kind of position? You can see they are physical. It's not close to the corner. It's more
but the sign may be up a little bit. Maybe here. Whatever. It's up a bit. I I I get I understand that. I don't know. It's you're if there's if there's no parking from here to corner and that's in front of the house, that's not going to get
moved. That's a law. I mean, we can send it to the police department for their review. I mean, that's ultimately. Yeah. And then come back to us with more detail. Uh, do you want to do that, counselor? Motion to send the police department for
review. Second. Um, motion made by councelor Delazar. Second by vice chair ra discussion. Seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I no no the eyes have it. So that's um police department for you. Got it. All right. Um
I think that's it for the new business. Let's just go through these if we can. We don't have the police here, but maybe we can just deal with it. Let's take a look. Uh June 4th. It's a month ago. No, you don't have these. Am I the only one that has this? Did we already dealt
with these? We might have already dealt with these. We dealt Okay, this is just extras. All right, we already dealt with all these. Okay, they're on the agenda except for one. Say it again. Uh they're on the agenda. These ones except for one.
All of these in June are on the agenda. Yes. All right. So, we haven't we haven't disposed of them. Okay. So, let's just go through these quickly. The first one is document 111 1125. See if we can find it.
Got it. This is handicap parking at handicap parking at 43 AM Street. Police department sent us a recommendation saying has a favorable recommendation for handicap parking at this address with the meets and bounds. So I'm looking for
a motion to send this up to full council to order a public hearing. Motion to send item 11125 to a full council with a favor recommendation to all the hearing. Second motion made by councelor Del Rosario second vice chair Ray has discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor
say I post no the eyes have it next is document same page 12025 this is for 50minute parking Holly street now I'm going to read this or get to it but I also think on something like this we've also asked DPW I think for it
submitting this memo uh the request for 15-minute parking LP is a favorable recommendation for 50minute parking um they spoke to the Mr. the Martinez um they're trying to stop residents who live on the street from to stop from parking in front of this business.
There's room for only one vehicle sign placed. Now remind me counselors when we see 15-minute parking we typically been sending just to the police department or we've been sending that also to DPW. We send it to the police department and I remember having the conversation when they denied this and I say to go back
because there's only two houses on that spare on the streets. Okay. So, and what the gentleman on that auto shop is looking for is even not is even for his customers to go in and out, right? Because it's right in front of his business where he wants the 15
minutes, but it's it's it's two houses in that in that street in that entire street of of that part of Holy Street. And that's why it come back is has a now it has a favorable recommendation on it regardless if it says well not regardless but if it says to
that this is the second time that the police do this because the first time make a man that's a denial and now they when I talked to the officer I said but who lives there it's two it's two houses one in the corner and they both have parking.
Okay. All right. So the request here is to be placed in front of the business sign should be placed directly in front of the business front door and garage door. So I'm looking for a motion. Motion to send to full council in favor recommendation or a public hearing. Motion made second.
Second. All in favor say I. I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Next is document 225. Thank you. Very bottom. Uh this is 30 minute parking between Winter Street and Oxford Street. Fable recommendation.
At this time there are several different signs showing different parking times in front of the businesses at a set uniform time would eliminate any questions about the time. Okay. Um so that's fascinating.
Um so We already have laws on the books on this. They're conflicting according to the police and now we're going to be adding one more law. Should we not be getting rid of the other laws that are conflicting and putting it or is that not necessary? I guess that may not be
necessary. Um I don't know the answer to that question. Uh, we could send this up to the full council to order a public hearing and send it to the city attorney simultaneously u to get his opinion as to whether or not there needs to be any further
actions regarding the conflict. I'm just thinking out loud. Motion to send a full council to order and also send it uh to the city attorney for advice on on the potential conflict. Motion made by council de Rosario,
second by vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. 21625. Yep. Thank you. Remove handicap parking. Crescent Street. Ah, okay. This is a request for handicap
parking. The Lawrence is requesting more information from the petitioner or the city regarding the ordinance. I would um whose district is this? Who's it? Council Marble.
Um your district. Yes, sir. Okay. Well, uh how do you want to handle it? Uh let's We don't have anything. Let's see. You don't have anything in the book.
260. So, the gentleman lives at 531533 Havville Street. That's the corner of Crescent and Hville. Yeah. Do you want me to rip this thing out because I'm not going to use it anymore. He wants to remove it in one location.
and add it to a second location. He's asking to relocate his handicap parking on Crescent Street. So, we remove it from Crescent Street, but then it says added on Crescent Street, which want to continue to table it.
What's that? So, you look Hold the next one to right. No, no, no. Yeah, that makes sense. But it it doesn't say where. Yeah, I see. Oh. Oh, it's the second one. Yeah. So, there's there's and I get and
just by looking at this, I get the confusion. It says it has the same thing. So, um you can send something to the council president or I mean it's up to you. It's your district counselor. So, You want to table both? All right.
Looking looking at table document 21625. Is there a motion? So move. Motion made. Second. All in favor say I. The eyes have it. Looking for a motion to the table document 21725. Motion to table. Second. Motion made and seconded. All in favor say I. I.
Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Next. 218. Handicap parking at um Floral Street 66 has an unfavorable favor unfavorable recommendation for handicap parking. Based on the photos from Google Maps and from observed the address in person, there is room for motor vehicles to park
within a few feet of their front door and side door to the building. Handicap parking signage in the street would cause the person to almost double or triple their distance they have to walk to gain access to their entrance. So, we have several options. We can go with the police department's recommendation. We can withdraw it. We
can go with the we can order a public hearing, spend the money, and then have a vote for the full council on after the public hearing. Um, the expert if you want. It's your area.
Okay. Okay. So, if you want a table, I'm fine with that. It's motion to table. Maybe council del. Motion to table. Second by council. Vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. Post. No. The eyes have it. Next is document 22025 childc care parking
payable recommendation motion to send a full council for favor recommendation to order a public hearing second motion made by council del Rosaro second by vice chair Reyes discussion all in favor say I post no the eyes have it I'm sorry
yeah go right ahead Which one? Well, we just the one we just voted on 220 the handicap the um childcare parking. Okay. And we're waiting for we're waiting for comment from the from the DPW.
No. No. That's important to know. As long as we're being consistent and I I think if we if we're not consistent, we're opening ourselves up for criticism. So, um counselors, that's the bit of information. The police think it's okay, but we haven't received
anything from DPW. And I think we've been Have we been consistently asking DPW on childcare? I don't remember to be honest. We all we didn't do is ask in the police department. Yes, we only asking to the police department and then
we because they put the the sign. Okay. So, we're just going to stick with this. We're not going to move. Okay. Uh two that was 220 and that was order
220 order of public hearing. Yeah. Next 2225 creation of an ordinance regulating on street parking of oversized vehicles. Wait a second. Nope. Wrong one. Four-way stop sign intersection of Katherine
Street and Ferry Street. Um this one they're referring to the city engineer. So let's just keep that table then. Motion to send it off uh to the city engineer. We may have already done it but it has to do a second one. Councelor Delazar
made the motion seconded by vice chair Reyes. Any further discussion? See call the question. All in favor say I. Those eyes have it. Um 22325. Got it. Uh one way
Campo Seiko Street. Uh this is a city engineer and DPW council. Is this one of those that are and we're talking about this whole bundle of ones? No. You want to resend that to DPW? I think we already have but sure. Motion to resend this to the city
engineer and DPW. Second. Motion made by council del Rosario, seconded by vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. I. Oppos? No. You eyes have it. Next is document 24725. stop sign be placed on Bennett and
Medford. Um LPD is a favor recommendation for the placement of a stop sign at the corner of Bennett and Medford. Sign should be placed at the southeast corner. So I guess that's green I on a stop sign. I just can't keep this clear. Are we Is
that for DPW as well or did we just send this to the police? This is a police response. We also send it to DPW or No. No. Okay. Okay, looking for a motion. Motion to send a full council order public hearing. Second.
Motion made by council del Rosario. Second by vice chair Reyes. All in favor say I. I. The eyes have it. 24825 stop sign on Bennett Street and Water Street. Favorable recommendation from the police
department. Looking for a motion. Motion to send full council for public hearing. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosar, seconded by vice chair Ry discussion. See none, I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I. Post. No, the eyes have it. My batteries are draining. I'm getting I'm losing
energy. Okay. 24925 handicap parking on 11 short street recommendation and they give the recommended locations as part of this police report. Looking for a motion. Motion to send full console to order
public. Second. Motion made by council del Rosaro. Second by vice chair Reyes. Discussion. See none. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I. Post. No. The eyes have it. Next is document number 25025. Handicap parking at 676 L Street. Favor
recommendation with the meets and bounds listed by the police department. Motion to send a full council to order poly. Motion made by by council del Rosario, seconded by vice chair Reyes. Discussion. See none. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. I
oppos. No, the eyes have it. Next is handicap parking to 177 Garden Street with the meets and bounds by the police department. Looking for a motion. Motion to senator full consult to order. Second. Motion made by council del Rosario. Second by vice chair Rey as discussion.
See what this just in. Or we call or call it. Finish your thought. What is it? submitted by on the top portion now submitted by
its no there's only one there's only one and also uh he put the the name in the island 250 that's 25
is from another one from Michael. How do you want to correct this? I mean, it's it's from the police department. Our agenda is correct, right? In the police department, right?
What's that? Sure. You want to put that? Yeah, that'd be helpful. Is that all right? Okay, there you go. Yep. Yep. All in favor say I. Oppos? No. The eyes have it. Uh 25225 uh 7 Packard Street. Favor
recommendation meets and bounds are in the in the memo. Looking for a motion. Motion to send a full council to order public hearing. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosario. Second by vice chair Reyes. Discussion. See call the question. All in favor say I. I. No. The eyes have it. Next is
25325. uh handicap parking at 161 Saratoga Street received a favorable recommendation with the meets and bounds in the police department memo. Looking for a motion. Motion to send a full council to order public hearing. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosario. Second by vice chair Ry discussion. See
now call the question. All in favor say I. Post the eyes have it. Next 25425 handicap parking 29 Woodland Street. Favor recommendation from the police department. Looking for a motion. Motion to send a full council order public hearing. Second. Motion made by councelor Del Rosario,
second by vice chair. Discussion. See no discussion. I'll call the question. All in favor say I. Post. No. The eyes have it. Uh 193 25 is remove handicap parking at three
Danforth Street. Uh I received a payable recommendation. Looking for a motion to need a public hearing. Motion to send a full council to order a public hearing. Second. Motion made by council delario. Second by vice chair ra discussion. See no discussion. I'll call the question. All
in favor say I. Post the eyes have it 1942. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. Um do we know what happened to that? Why it's time on our
agenda? Do we know? Okay. Would you be so kind as to do that? Okay. Thank you. All right. Council, I don't see anything else before us. You want to make a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn.
Motion made by councelor Delber. Second by vice chair base. All in favor say I. The eyes have it. I hope you all