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the Good evening. Good evening and welcome to the regular meeting for the Lawrence City Council. Today is Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025 pursuant pursuant to chapter 20 of the act of 2022. This meeting will be hybrid allowing
participation both in person in the city council chambers and remotely. Anybody that have requested the link for this meeting is been provided uh through the cler's office. This meeting is also being transmitted live through the Facebook Lawren City Council page as
well as the YouTube Lawren City Council page. Mal Malclair Roco. Councelor Levy present. Council Lantel Luzon present. Councelor Del Rosario
present. Councelor Marmal present. Councelor Reyes is noted as absent. Council Vice President Infante present. Council President Rodriguez present. Please uh join me for a moment of
silence. Uh Now join me for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of United States of America to the stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. Counselors, we got minutes from August, August 8, August 6, 2025, and August 26, 2025 to be approved through the vote. Can I Can I get a motion to approve? Motion to approve. There is a motion to approve. Properly
second discussion. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. We going to public participation. The public participation have a specific rule we need to respect. One of them is that you're going to have two and a half minute to speak. And at
the two-minute mark, you're going to hear a beep or sounds indicated that you still have 30 seconds to go. uh please refer to this council as a whole. The first person that we have is
uh Bob Dingley. Name and address for the record, please. Okay. Robert Dingo. I use Bob for short. Um,
a lot of things got to be changed in Lawrence in some ways. One, I see people doesn't like to keep clean and stuff like that and that's unsanitary for one
unquote. I was always brought up to be clean and soap off because people catch disease and so forth. And then on top of that that
the elderlys, my mom always taught me respect your elders because why? because you're going to be like me with
my age and one day you're going to have a walk like I have or a wheelchair because I have to look out for myself and my own
safety and so forth. And people have to have respect for the elderly because the reason why is because some of them uh
don't want to respect the elders and they should and to my knowledge I think that people should learn to do that because the simple fact is that we're old and I was young like you guys.
Didn't have a walker at the time. I almost died first time with open heart surgery. Almost died twice with the coit. So, all done. No. 30 more seconds.
Oh, okay. Okay. So, um I'm trying to do what's right and stuff like that. And also, the police got to learn to get people doing with the
needles because I don't like drugs. I don't even like taking the ones I have. I never was brought up that way and thank you so much. Okay,
the next person is H Maliki M 53 Chester Street. Good evening honorable members. We the citizen are united to support our police officers. Lawrence police department with the impeccable leadership by honorable chief
Morris Agler doing excellent job to protect our citizen. Lawrence police this union of pride and honor. Thank you for making Lawrence a safe city. Million thanks to our DPW leadership and workers. Thank you for making Lawrence a
beautiful city. Lawrence inspection department. Thank you for excellent job. We support your union. We must hire more inspector. Lawrence public school with the impeccable leadership by honorable superintendent Raph Guerrero. Moving
forward, Lawrence teachers, thank you for excellent job. We support your union. Lawrence teachers, because of you, Lawrence will rise again. Lawrence always strong. Lawrence always unite. We are proud to support our veteran. Thank
you for your service. Thank you for your bravery. We must hire two position in a veterans department. We must create the best elder commission. We must pay our old long-term city employee the same rate that we pay the new employee. We
pray for the safety of all police officers and the first responder. Lawrence fire department with the impeccable leadership by honorable chief Delenny doing excellent job. We the Laurentian are proud of the new police building the home to the most best
police department in the nation. Lawrence police a shining superstar in the sky of Lawrence. Next person. [Applause] The next person is Rich Russell. Councelor Russell. Name and address for
the record, please. Good evening, councilors. Richard Russell, 34 Cross Street. First, my condolences to the mayor's uh family for their loss this past weekend. Now that I get a chance uh not that I got a chance to attend all of the
trifecta of events this weekend, uh it does appear that everything went well with all of them. Now for the questions, excuse me. Is it true that the fire and police chiefs are now prohibited from attending neighborhood ma meetings in an
official capacity? Number two, why the sudden rush to pave streets in the city prior to an election? Number three, what's the irrationale and agenda item 35925,
the placing of the ADA director under the stewardship of the DPW? My own thoughts are while the ADA director may have some interaction with the DPW regarding si city buildings being ADA compliant, it seems to me his position
would more appropriately fall under the umbrella of human services portion of the city government hierarchy. Number four, why has the VSO's budget remained static for the past several years while the cemetery superintendent
can grab a $30,000 raise under the FY2026 budget fiasco? Just remember the VSO's office is ordinanced for two more individuals. It seems to me as an unbiased observer of the of all that
transpires in this building, the powers at be have no problems creating new position for FF AD family, friends, and donors. While number five, why isn't everyone making a big deal about stealing ballots from me residential
mailboxes? How did anyone know where the mail and ballots were going? Sounds like an inside job to me, but that's personal opinion. Why hasn't the partner in crime, if I uh been brought up on charges yet, the partner in crime, if
I'm not mistaken, does not exactly have a squeaky clean image. If I missed any questionable issues with this government, not to worry. I plan to be around one way or another. As always, I thank you for the time.
The next person that we have is Ronaldo Hill. name and address for the record, please. Uh, Ronaldo Gil, address 21 Bailey Street. Uh, I first want to thank the council giving me the opportunity to voice uh, voice some thoughts. Uh, a little bit about me. I actually, uh, my family was
one of the first families here to move into the Marvback Valley uh, 1975. I grew up here. I graduated from the Voke. Then I went into the military. Uh, I passed I spent the past 30 years in Texas and I've been back to my community. uh last 6 months. And the
reason why I'm here really is actually to advocate for ADA coordinator Richard Rodriguez. He's made a change in my life and I wanted to kind of uh uh give him some accolades. Uh actually in that time um he's been extremely gracious and instrumental for me uh in a lot of ways.
It happened me to uh get back into the community and especially uh providing legal aid and actually a lot of advice in providing an accommodation for my uh for my employer at this time. Right. So, actually uh I wanted to say that Richard is just not an employee. You know, he's
an asset and to replace somebody of his caliber would cost the city thousands of dollars. Not just in recruitment, not just in training, but actually the gap that he would leave in the city. Uh Richard actually has directly helped the city by preventing costly lawsuits and
actually he's able to be bring in over a million dollars of revenue to the city. uh most importantly he has earned the trust of the ADA community. Losing him would create a major gap not only in knowledge but in the credibility and trust with the uh residents of the city
who depend on him. And I urge the council to recognize Richard's value not just financially but socially and that his compensation reflects the immense uh return on investment that it brings to the city. Once again, I want to thank the council for letting me voice my opinion and you have a blessed
week. Thank you very much. Next person is uh Parker Matthew. Hello. Name and address of the record, please. Hi, my address. My my address for what? They need your address.
Hi, my name is Parker Mathine. I am 9 years old. I am a student at Arlington Elementary. My mother told me she was coming tonight and I wanted to come too. We are here because Broadway Street is not safe for kids to walk to school. The cars drive too fast and sometimes it's
scary. We need a better crosswalk with the light working buttons that talks like the one outside city hall. We we this will make our community a better place a safer place for working for kids
walking to school like me. Thank you. Thank you. Do you mind providing that statement to our uh secretary so we can we'll be able to read read later on? Thank you. Thank you. Do you mind just taking a few
copies? Then the next person that we have is uh James Colton Matthew. Hi, my name is Joanne Colton. Um I live at 550 Broadway. Um, I'm a resident of Laf 550 on Route 28 where there is an
average of 14,000 cars that drive through daily. I'm also the mom of Parker Mathin who just spoke. I'm concerned for the safety of my daughter and other children when they walk to school. The intersection is so dangerous that a good amount of parents choose to drive their children to school instead
of taking the five-minute walk. The multiple lofts um in the Arlington community house over 300 families and the Arlington school educates over a thousand children with the majority being walkers. I've brought this
I've brought this concern to the school um about over three years ago with the support of a family engagement staff who was able to facilitate a meeting with Judith Crocker from Safe Roots to School, a Mass Department of Transportation
organization. Um, also in attendance were were other Lawrence Public School staff such as Adonis Hernandez, director of operations, Dave Hernandez, director of
school safety, Nelson Butane, former district level staff in staff engagement. My concerns were heard in regard to needing signage and updates. However, there was no follow through. My I am now asking the city to post
signs indicating that there is there are pedestrians on Route 28 near the Arlington neighborhood. Signs that indicate that there is a school zone. Updated crosswalks and signals with lights that work. repair and replace buttons on crosswalks, such as the
intersection of Manchester and Broadway, Broadway and Park, and update crosswalk signals on the intersection of Broadway in Arlington. These changes will ensure that our children along with all pedestrians can have a safe way to get
around. Thank you. The next person is Jeffrey Patillo. Good evening, city councilors. My name is Jeffrey Petrillo and I reside at 341D South Broadway. The last time I spoke about our 279/25
agenda item for the ordinance committee was at the August 11, 2025 city council meeting. I'm here tonight to remind the city councilors on the ordinance committee that we would like to be heard and to remind all the ordinance
committee that when a petitioner's agenda item has been defeated and nobody from the prevailing side does not ask for reconsideration at the same meeting then that simply means that the petitioners do not get to come back and petition for whatever changes they want
until two years after the date of the petition petition. ition was defeated. That did not happen on November 7, 2024 as the petitioners were allowed to come back after their petition was defeated
after one year only. This is not correct and this should be anullled to two years until November 7, 2026. This is only part of the items of zoning law enforcement we would like to discuss at the next ordinance committee meeting
that we are that we are requesting to be uh untabled and put back on the next ordinance committee meeting schedule regarding agenda item 279/25. And we have already expressed this to
the city clerk last week and today. We will save our other remarks for that meeting. Also, I'd like to furthermore discuss with councelor Infante uh the other sign that we discussed back in July.
Just refer to this council as a whole, please. Pardon me. Just refer to the council as a hall. Okay. Um uh that we had discussed back in July of this year. Okay. Thank you. if you could give me a call,
please. Thank you. All right. The next person that we have is Ruven. Ruven. All right. Uh, all these names will be submitted for the record. Counselors, I have an item that I would like to uh
consider out of the new business. This is item item 37825. The report of the fire and review of Winfield Allo John Deer license due to violations of ordinance and regulations. Um we have
this item as a new business but uh this item um could be considered as an emergency due to the fact that uh it was an emergency that we were dealing with on the fire and I will uh entertain any motions if the council would like to
suspend the rules uh on the rule 11 and then suspending the rules to send it to committee on the rule six. This could be uh this could be deal At this point, we have the fire chief here. We have the police chief here. We also
have the director of inspection or services here. Uh that are that are that could be discussed this matter at this point. Counselors, there is a motion to suspend the rules um and then not send it to committee to be able to discuss
this at this level. So move second. There is a motion to under rule 11 to suspend rule six to declare this as an emergency and not to send it to committee. It's been properly second discussion.
I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. We have the chief here with us uh from the um well we have both chiefs here with us I believe. Um the firefighter chief. So, if you can
provide us um with an update as of what happened and why do you think it's important for us to discuss this item at this level? Good evening, counselors. Uh Chief Patrick Delany um 65 Low Street. So, last week on August 27th, I believe
everybody has a packet with uh everything I have in front of me. Does everybody have a packet of certain items? delay to me. That's that's okay if we don't like we could go along with it.
That's okay. We could go without it for now. Um I could explain it. So last week on Wednesday, August 27th, Lawrence Fire Department Engine 8 was conducting a a a drill in the vicinity district familiarization and they noticed some
smoke and they came across Winfailed Alloy, a recycling facility at 15 Medford Street. And when when we arrived on scene, we arrive we we had three separate fires going on. We had a couple people. We had a crane that was working
the pile and another person that was working the pile. So, it it took us a couple hours. When you get these fires, they really get deepseated and it takes a lot of time, a lot of water to put these fires out. But during our investigation, it it it
revealed that they were lacking procedures. They were lacking a lot of procedures. One of their the biggest concern, disappointment, their lack of procedures for reporting fires. It turned out like they they admitted that when they discover your fire that their
first action is, which we like to help to put it out, but they try to put it out and then when a fire gets out of control, their policy is to call um a state law 52710.6.1, any person discovering an unwanted fire,
regardless of magnitude, shall immediately notify the fire department. So, that was very concerning for us that they didn't notify us right away. We have some pictures and I apologize. I thought I I got some things to you, but this picture right here, it looks like
there's a little bit of smoke. We got some video. So, during our investigation, we we we interviewed everybody and we got a lot of uh video from around. And in our video, we show a little bit of smoke emanating from the pile. That's the incipient phase of a
fire. We believe in my experience that if they called us at that time as soon as they saw smoke because this was witnessed that we probably would have got there. We would have we have 750 gallons in our tank and it's a possibility we would have put that fire out. Their lack of procedures they
started moving the pile around a little bit. So when we arrived, we actually, you know, we arrived to something more like that, which was a a large fire in three different places. And we uh again, they it took us a significant time to
put it out. That's very toxic smoke. All smoke is toxic, but when you talk about oils, you talk about metals, it's very damaging to, you know, your lungs, to the neighborhood. Um it really wasn't going anywhere. We at one point we were concerned that it might have been
getting to the structure. I have some o over um overhead pictures where their their their place of business just needed to be cleaned up. So the next day we we did our investigation. The next day we teamed up with the building department
inspectional services and we conducted a a inspection which is procedure for us. And during that inspection, we found out that they were missing a lot of permits. They had a lot of things that they needed to do to come into compliance. So with the fire departments, you know, our
job with inspectional services, um, sometimes it's to bring people back into compliance. Okay? So sometimes you have to, you know, take a couple steps back before you could go forward. So we felt inspectional services, the building department and the fire department that
the totality of all their their problems, their violations that we the fire department, which we had most of the violations in our book 527 CMR, which is um mass fire code regulations. We found it warranted to cease and
desist order on them. tell them to to stop, come into compliance, get a number one, train your employees and when you when you see a fire to report it to the fire department right away. And we have some other things. Um, you know, they
for the fire department, they should have if they have waste oil, they should have the storage. They have acetylene, they should have a permit for that. Their dumpsters, they need a permit for that. We asked them to get a registered design professional to to bring their yard back into into
compliance. The owner was stated that he thought it was lithium ion batteries. It's a hazardous commodity. One of the things is when they have their pile, they should have a procedure to separate these hazardous commodities. So some of
the other things were, you know, outdoor storage not within 10 ft of a property line that was 10.61. Um these are all 527 CMR um code of mass regulations. Storage not within 20 ft of a building of lot lines. Piles not
exceeding 20 ft in height must be compact and orderly. Um piles pallets not to exceed 15 fightt in height. 400 square feet in areas. So we work with them. They they helped us out a little bit. They were trying to come into
compliance. We also asked them to make sure that their sprinkler system was checked and their their fire alarm should be checked every year. So, we asked them to do that. I've been in contact them. They have been cooperating. I spoke to um Mr. Eric Tetler today and asked them if you
needed any assistance. Where were they? Um they they got their sprinkler system up and running. They were uploading that their fire alarm system up and running. They were looking for a registered design professional to give us a plot plan of their facility and to make sure
that they're in compliance. They were supposed to train all their employees on how to properly report a fire as the law states. And then we have some other municipal code recommendations. Um, municipal code 540.130,
junk licenses report and consult with a representative of the Lawrence Police Department to establish a daily reporting system for compliance. One of our city rules is they should report to the police department. We check with the police department. They don't report every day, but the police stated that if
they do have an incident, they do go over there and they do give them give them their records. Let's see. the uh municipal code um inspectional services on screening your yard from public view and durability um and will maintain material.
So, so all in all, the totality of all their violations, um, the fire department, inspectional services, and the building department felt that it was enough enough hazard to the community and to themselves to again give a cease and desist, stop them from operating,
and have them kind of set back. Now, it's this isn't something out of the ordinary. And again, we assist them with this. In in the first part, again, I thought I you had this, but uh I'll just read the first part. On August 27th, the Lawrence Fire Department respond to a
fire incident your property located at 15 Medford Street. Several fires dis were discovered burning within a large pile of misc mix mc scrap metal and required significant resources to bring under control. Following our response, it became clear that several areas of
code compliance must be addressed. I want to emphi emphasize that our intent is not to hinder your operations unnecessarily, but work with you to bring the property into compliance as quickly and efficiently as possible. Together with Director Pat Ruiz and
building commissioner Peter Blanchett of the inspectional service department, we conduct an initial code compliance review and determine the following. And then we just list the code the um violations that they have. Some of them they could answer to you. Um, some of
them they've corrected. Some of them they might need a little bit more time. When the fire department, inspectional services, and the building department, you know, to a point feel like they could operate again, that's that's what we'll do. Um, I've worked with Mr.
Tetler before. He's familiar with the fire department. Uh, he knows that we're fair. He understands um what we're trying to do. Again, he was compliant with us. So, we're just trying to get them a little set back, get their their
house in, you know, in operation, and we want them to be able to, you know, be able to proceed, and if they're going to do business in the city of Law, it's in a safe manner. One of the things that were concerning is again, I got to go back to their lack of procedures for reporting a fire and and I can't
emphasize that enough because in my experience, again, in the cipient phase, we probably wouldn't be able to put it out. Instead, this really wasn't going anywhere, but it it takes hours and hours, hundreds and thousands of gallons of water to put this out. So, we had
three or four pieces of apparatus that were tied up at the at that time, probably about for 3 or 4 hours instead of maybe one tied up for 20 minutes. During that time, the city alarm was was very busy. Okay. So, when we have an incident, we still have medicals, we
still have car accidents, we have other alarms. So I called our fire alarm and I had them report what went on during that period and the city of Lawrence was busy within that 4 hours. North Andover had a structure fire where they called us for
help for a writ team which is a team that stands by as their firefighters are uh fighting the fire. Since we were committed to this incident we couldn't help North Andover. They called Andover to help them. Well Andover couldn't help them because they were covering our community in Lawrence. So then they had
to go to Haveril. So it's kind of just a ripple effect through the Marramac Valley because they didn't report this incident. But again, we we're educating them. We told them, we gave them the law. You don't have a choice to report a fire in the city uh in the state of
Massachusetts. It's the law. So we gave them a copy of that law. And again, we asked them to make a procedure so that anybody in that facility sees a fire of any magnitude, they'll do what the law says and they'll call they'll call it in.
I could anybody else that from the city first that uh that are here in regard to this matter, I wanted to add anything else. No, they're here. But I mean, we have
other departments that are here, too. Any other department, special services, are they here for that? Okay. All right. Uh, uh, council president, before you get moving on to to the other part, is there a request before the council? Is there is
there is there something that that you're petitioning or asking the council to take some sort of action on? We're we're dealing this as an emergency. We're we take this out. We're not going to committee. So, I'm expecting there to be some Are we looking to revoke the license? Is I mean, tell me what it is that the city is looking for from the council.
Well, right now the fire department again is working with inspectional services and the building department and we put a stop and desist um cease and desist order on their business. So, they can't do any business right now until they come into compliance. So stopping
them from work, the fire department did that and because of the totality of all their violations, we felt that that was necessary. I work talked to them today and it's kind of incumbent on them to what they were able to do. As I spoke to
them that day, I stated that as soon as you think you're in compliance that when you notify me, we'll come over. will do a full inspection and we'll get you operating on a um on on the correct level. I think this would be the proper
procedure because the city council gives their license. If I had a problem with a nightclub doing something, I'd take them to the licensing board. Since you guys issue this license and they had a significant incident that impacted the residents and of our city, we just felt
like it was necessary to bring this in front of you. But at this time, councelor, we're not looking for anything. So there's no request. There's no there's no request. There's no request for any for us any council president. Yes. Give me a minute. Let me finish with the conversation and then I'm going
to open the floor to the counselors. Okay. Thank you so much. So at this time, Chief, do you have anything else to add to the issue? Nope. That covers it all. Right. uh counselors. Uh at this point before we open up uh to the to the
floor, I would like to give the opportunity to the company that that is here to explain to us uh what happened and the what what what they are at this point when it comes to um the situation.
So if any representative from the company good evening uh attorney Denver terms on behalf of Winfield Alloy um I first want to start out by um applauding the work that my client has done in just the short amount of time in less than a week
uh to comply with fire code and bring themselves back uh into uh a state where they're able to return to business. um as to the first notification policy that they were um allegedly in violation of by not calling the the fire department right away. I can shed some light on the
incident um per an investigation conducted which is inside this binder I can provide to you um by the um I'll slow down for you. Yes, no problem. Um per an investigation conducted internally um the fire was found to have
started uh between 10:25 and 10:30 a.m. Um it was inside an iron pile. Um, from there it was not three separate fires. There's plumes of smoke coming up, but it was one uh one essentially one fire that was burning inside this pile. Um,
all operators are certified through OSHA and trained through our uh through my client's company um in order to respond to events like this emergency events on their property. They responded um quickly and efficiently by what OSHA
training is is to remove um the or find the source of the fire and remove it so it does not spread. About 5 to 10 minutes later, a Lawrence Fire um department vehicle was driving by, noticed the smoke, and uh came in to assist.
Um the fire did uh you know take a decent amount of time to um uh to be put out. Uh did not spread. Uh there was no um giant structural damage, anything like that. Um since this uh incident, my client um has taken extreme steps in
just a short amount of time to to correct these first uh as their employee um handbook. uh they completely rewrote um the sections regarding emergency response to include the language the exact language uh that was included in the notice that they received from the Lawrence Fire Department um and about
their uh notification of the fire department of any kind of emergency situation. First um they further conducted a retraining of all employees today um and inside this binder there is a um a signoff sheet for everyone who was retrained on this new procedure. Um
they also um have been um working with these employees uh to make sure that they are all licensed and which they are um they are all trained properly. Um as for scrap metal storage regulations that have um been you know there was an issue
with that were found um they have been removing a lot of products from their sites as well as in the process of moving all wood products from the site. Um and that ties into um the creation of a new site plan which the the chief recommended. they are um have reached out to the um the fire department and to
begin working with a consultant or a professional to redesign a site plan. They've had a site plan in place I believe for 15 uh years and they've had no fires except uh this one 15 years without incident with this uh the site plan that they had. Um but um they want
to comply here. They want to stay in business, get back in business as soon as possible. Have done that as well. Um they've removed 80 to 90% of all uh on-site uh waste oil uh to an appropriate downstream vendor and are also uh took the step themselves to
retrain their employees on the waste oil handling program. You say what what was the percentage of the oil that they removed? Uh excuse 89 to 90% currently. 89 to 90%. Just want to note that in the minutes um it would bring them back into
compliance. Uh and it was all done through a appropriate downstream vendor. um in accordance with EPA. Uh there's also um the uh some permit issues that were taken care of uh were were brought up, excuse me. Three of the four have been taken care of. You'd find them in
your portal. Um three of the uh they're pending applications. They have been paid for, put through with the appropriate documentation. That's the combustible liquids permit. Um the dumpster container permit and the sprinklers and alarms uh permit. The only one that is uh ongoing is a high
pile storage permit uh through um the Lawrence Fire Department. They're having trouble with locating it on the actual portal. They will take care of it as as soon as um they're able to. Um they've also uh I believe this was recommended, not mandatory. Um have uh resumed uh
police department reporting. They had done it for a number of years. Um it had ceased, but for some reason police department, they were my client informed me said they uh did not have to do it. I've uh there's an email contained in here where they are fully um back and willing and have set it up. I believe
it's uh Monday through Saturday. They will be uh Mr. Tetler himself will be doing the reporting. Um and for housekeeping um see if I can find some photographs of the yard here. They um completely transformed the yard. Well, it wasn't it was from the aftermath of
uh the fire. If you can see here, all the housekeeping was done. Separate piles. Cleaned it completely up here. So what they're essentially doing is is trying to get back and I believe are in substantial compliance now. Um you know
them having to lose um a even a week of business is quite hard. They're losing their livelihood and it's also costing um the the citizens of Lawrence. They employ 16 um individuals from the city of Lawrence. um they service around 100 to 130 individuals of the the city of
Lawrence on a daily basis and that translates to around 300 to 650 impacted individuals individuals on a secondary level. Um there's also a large concern here too about the the cause of the fire for my um for my client. Uh they you
know they've had 15 20 years without a fire. They operate multiple yards across different states and they don't have this kind of problem. Um there was pending litigation that was filed on the 13th of August uh regarding an abuing uh property an appeal to the superior court
and uh within service of those documents being made between the 21st and the 27th a fire um originates at their property one in a magnitude they've never seen and it abuts abudding the property that they're currently in dispute with. Um my client is extremely concerned um and and
wish there had been a a full investigation as they found no corrosive materials or any accelerants that could have started and he my client deep down um does have a feeling that this this is all related to the property located at 640 Essex Street. He wants to be
completely uh in compliance um with uh the the state fire code and the city fire regulations, but he also has this this deep feeling and concern and worry about his livelihood because of the pending litigation and that this may we we understand, but let's let's just
stay focused when in the situation, the emergency that we we're dealing with, which is the fire and the the firefighters here for a specific concern that they have and we don't want to maintain the conversation around there because I It's about it's a matter of fact until
we got those facts then we can add the I understand there's been no um the cause of fire uh was not determined to be arson my but I understand we we I mean I'm pretty sure that the the firef fire department will have that within the report as of the potential
cause of fire. Um anything else that we would like to add? just that um I believe my client is now either very close to being back in substantial compliance with including the inspection of the sprinkler system
and the the um the fire alarm system. Um but I believe um that he should operation should not be ordered to be ceased that he is uh that the entity is back in substantial compliance and that they should be allowed to operate in the appropriate documentation being provided. All
right. Thank you so much counselors. Any questions in regard to this issue? Council Lan. So we've got a process question which you have nothing to deal with and then I've got a substantive comment which you do have something to deal with. So the sub the process question is well do we
expect to take some sort of action as a council maybe that I know I know that the fire department's not asking us to do anything. They're just informing us. Are we looking to do something as a council? Uh I believe that at this point we will we will uh what we will do we will wait for the fire department to
finish them the investigation and within the findings uh they if they feel like it's is it is important to bring this back they'll bring this back. We we have this uh situation that the firefighter is not
asking uh for an specific until they have uh a full uh report about the issue and once that happen we're going to follow the recommendations. At this point there is no no ask from the firefight department.
So my point is and it's too late for this. My point is important, really critical, impacts a lot of people. I know that uh where I was in Colonial Heights, I could smell I could smell the toxic I think well they weren't good. I
would not order this. The they must be toxic fumes of some sort. Um look like burnt chemicals, rubber, that kind of odor. Uh so it it in in a city like ours that has a high respiratory issues um
this uh exacerbates uh the already the problems that we're facing as a community. So that that's a problem. Having said that and I can go in more detail but I may not which is but is this this could have been sent to a committee. This could have been done and then if there is an opportunity for us
we should take it. if we wanted to go ahead and revoke the license, that would be an emergency procedure that we could probably do. What's totally disappointing from my perspective? It was just last week or the last meeting that we just approved the the the permit
and and and and I remember asking the questions, what's your reputation? How are you working? What's going on? Is there any problems? No, we're pristine. We've got no problems. Things are going great. We've got a lot of corporate invest corporate clients that are coming
in national uh aeron aeronautics companies for example that rely on us and we've got big good big big contracts and I'm thinking this is a real jewel that we have in our city and then within a week or two I'm hearing this this is I
mean we should have this uh and that's why I'm asking what are what what we're looking to do but the license has been the permit has been issued for for for a year I believe it's a one-year your permit. Uh three years permit. Three-ear permit. That's that makes me
feel a little less secure. Um and that's a concern because uh I I you're now on our radar. I would ask that you be brought up again uh next year even though the permit's not there. I would want to see an update. No matter
how this flies, no matter what happens, no matter if the fire department says that you've you've satisfied all their requirements. I and this should be a lesson for us. I want to see the I want to make sure that there is an operations manual that you do have something. Now,
I'm not informed enough to know all the all the technical aspects of it, but I know that we have staff that does and if we have something like this, I could say to our staff or the department heads and say, does this satisfy your concerns? Do we have that? Whether it's this or
potentially other lenses that or permites that we're providing permits for if there's something like this, we should know this before we issue a permit. And so this is a this is for me this is an eye openener. Um and I think that we should take there's
lessons to be learned from more my perspective. Our my lesson and I I don't want to say our lesson, but the potential council lesson is to make sure we have this kind of documentation in the future as we review these kinds of things. You're the only one in our city though that has this kind of permit, I do believe. Is that right?
There's two others or is there permit? Another two together. Two all together. Yes. All right. And so when the next one comes before the council, whenever that is, I'm not sure what the timet is. We should be asking for that as well. So those those are my points. I'm I'm I
just want to reiterate what the police chief because we're not taking action I don't think on this tonight. But what I'm hearing please fire chief what the fire chief is suggesting you don't need to get up fire chief but uh what I'm what I'm hearing from the fire chief that that there seems to be some sort of progress. There seems to be a there is a
cease and assist order currently. Is there there's one currently right now? currently you were looking for that to be lifted because you think you're in substantial compliance depending on the review of your document of the documentation if you felt it was I I I would assume um the fire department would want to do an inspection themselves before that is
lifted where so I just want to make sure they're under a cease and assist order right now they cannot function as a as an entity they are cease they're cease and desist they cannot operate that's affirmative and and when do we when do when does when does your company expect to provide the documentation to the fire department
to relieve you of add I believe a majority a majority has been um uploaded to the portal that's in this binder to be sent over um tonight tomorrow. Um there is uh one pending permit and there's also the issue of the um a new floor plan which
that couldn't have been devised in a week's time just because it would need the time to consult with a professional who would have to come out and see the yard, make the plan and then um make sure it's in compliance with the fire department. Madame clerk, please call the ro for councelor Reyes.
Councelor Reyes present. Thank you. All right, just to recap very quickly. Real problem, real issue. Fire went there, fire department went there, saw the problem, was able to look at what the issues are. Not only there's several processes, questions. They called you
out on it. You've now working toward amending and adhering to the what they're asking for. You need to permit, you need to provide that information to the fire department. If with they're satisfied, they're going to go ahead. We are somewhat I think out of this a little bit. It's in the fire department's domain. They're the ones
that can issue a cease and assist order. I don't know of the I think we either revoke or a permit. I don't think we're in a position where we can do a cease and assist. Maybe we can. We've never been down this road before, but I'm confident with the fire department and the chief and and the work that they do that they're going to look for the
residents in our city's best behalf. Thank you, Council President. Thank you. uh something that we have in front of us is that the chief just said uh that there is all the things that were not in compliance. So this type of license get is given by
the council uh every 3 years once every three years if I believe is correct. Uh we have another u young based on the conversation we have another young that have similar license. Um and essentially we we don't have that
that specific set of checks that each one of those have to have before they operate. I also noticed that the based on the state law, based on city ordinance, uh as per previous discussion that we have with the ISD is that the
fence is the tolerance or the the height that the metal can go up to. Uh the height of the fence is that if I if I correct if I'm correct, the height of the fence is the the height that the metal should go not passing that limit.
Uh and that's also part of the regulations that we not we we we don't have and essentially obviously we have passed by and we have seen that the pile goes up higher than the fence. So all those
situations are what we're looking for is to have that on a on a document and potentially before we actually see the license again for renewal that same report on any type of violations that
might occur have to have there as per the city requirements. Obviously they have to have a specific rules and regulations and that document will be part of the rules and regulation on assuming right chief. Yes.
So councilors any other questions about the issue. Councelor MMO I'm glad uh Chief I want you to stay because I do have some follow-up questions. Um, as a district counselor of of where this
uh fire took place, uh, to me it is super important to build relationships with the business owners. Um, and I I've been fortunate enough to to meet the owners uh, of this facility. Um, but I must say that I I can't turn a blind eye
to what transpired. And um, I have to express my disappointment and I'll explain why. For one, the business already comes with a with a bad stigma um the complaints um
as to how this business operates, whether it's an eyesore or the toxin fumes or just how it's disruptive uh to the neighboring uh residential facilities nearby. So considering all these negative factors that come into
play, you would think that um this business has been operating for quite some time. Correct. Yes. So I just don't understand as to being that you've been in business for such a long time in the city. How does how does
this business get to the level of not being in compliance? Um you know that that's why I'm disappointed. Um I'm disappointed at the fact that um a business that receiving so much uh negative um hate to operate
in this business, I would be on my P's and Q's. Um you stated in your in your report or speech that um this business has never experienced a fire before. Um, however, it makes me question that if
the policy is for employees to put it out themselves first and if it doesn't get too big and then if it does, then that's when, you know, you would call the fire department. So, it makes me question, has there ever been a fire
previously? Um, I I want to target some of my questions to the chief in terms of how many total violations were there, how many has been rectified, and how many do we have left
to to see for them to to correct? Um, are we looking for them to correct all of the violations before they're able to uh reopen a and and begin and commence
business as as usual? Um, I'm also curious to know how many abuing businesses or residential areas were affected due to this fire. Okay. In all, left my book back there, but in all there were about seven to
eight violations. And again, the totality of all the violations uh led us to give the cease and desist order. As far as all of them, I mean, the fire department likes to be known as um strict, but we're fair as as everybody knows, as this business knows. So, some
of the some of the violations, you know, they could work on a little bit. Others are non compro, you know, we don't compromise on some of them. some of the bigger ones. Um, again, sometimes we you have to step back a little bit to go forward. We have dealt with them in the
past. They have had fires um maybe not of this magnitude in the past years, but again, this this fire got to that magnitude because of their lack of procedures. It was a witnessed fire. There were people working on the pile. Um, and again in my experience, if they
had called right in that picture I have the little bit of smoke, it would have been like the rest of their smaller fires. We dealt with them four years ago over some hazardous materials, things not being labeled. And again, the fire department and inspectional services,
builder department, we work well with the community to try to get people back into compliance. But when we come on a scene like that and after we didn't give a a cease and desist order right away, we waited and we did a full inspection
of the property and the things that we saw led us to the cease and desist. It's incumbent on then. I' I've been in constant contact. I spoke to uh Mr. Tetler before the weekend and then we
spoke again today. And if at like last of the weekend, he asked, "Well, when could I said, "As soon as you think you're ready, you call us up and we will come over there right away." I explained to him today, um, we guided him through a couple of things that he had to do. He
was looking um for a registered design professional. Um, so some of the things he didn't have, but as soon as he feels that it's his business, he knows his operation. As soon as he feels that he could do it in a safe manner, the fire department will go with inspectional
services and the building department will conduct an inspection and if they're safe and they can operate and they have their procedures in place, then we we lift the cease and desist. Chief, could you please answer how many violations do they still currently have? Then
I can't I can't answer that because they they haven't been ready to for us to do a full inspection. It's incumbent on them to um they were working through a couple. So, for example, their fire alarm system has hadn't been checked. They just got it today. They're waiting
on the report. Their sprinkler system, they're waiting on the report. The registered sign professional, they're waiting on the report. They couldn't pull a couple permits because in the city, if you owe the city some money, they owed some water bill, a water bill. So when I spoke to him today, I said, "I
don't know how much your water bill is, but as soon as you pay that water bill, then you could apply for your license. If it's a yearly, it's a license, not a permit, and then you could get that permit. As soon as you I spoke to Mr. Tetler and I said, as soon as you apply
for that license, the fire department will issue to it and do a full inspection on that." For example, one of the things is a settling, and they said they don't use the acetylene. They said, "That's great. then get rid of it. If you don't use it, then it shouldn't be on your property. If you want it on your
property, pull a license, store it properly, and use it properly. Chief, um, yeah. Yeah. Let me just clarify something here about your question, Chief. When you went there, uh, you find violations
and then based on those violations, you told them you need to do X, Y, and Z. Correct? Yes. Council Mammo is asking you how many of those you find. I Let me grab my book. So, it was under my impression that we submitted a packet and that you guys had everything that I
walked up here with tonight. So, that's that's my fault. I could Okay, just give me one second. Give us the number. You got a copy? Let me grab mine. I mean, it's not a minor violation. Final discussion. Council, I apologize. I thought that you
uh you had a copy of what I had. So, let's see. When we go through a 527 CMR 10.6.11, that was a not reporting of the fire. That's a major one. They had to come into uh they had to train all their employees and let us know that they're
in compliance with that. Um I don't believe they had their fire alarm, their sprinkler. um they didn't have those reports. Your fire alarm and your sprinkler, they should be um checked once a year and they should have that document. If they
already had those documents, um they could just furnish it. They didn't have those documents, so they had to get a sprinkler company. They had to get a fire alarm company to make sure that those components were still working. I spoke to the sprinkler company. I believe he has to upload that report to
a third party Bryer and I believe there's some problems with this sprinkler comp this sprinkler. I haven't seen the report yet but based on what we see it's either one they have two separate sprinkler systems. I believe one isn't reporting but I can't answer to that because I don't have that
document yet. the the inspection was done today on the fire alarm and the sprinkler and the companies that did it have not supplied the well they just supplied those documents. So waste oil, flammables,
acetylene storage and then again with their site plan to say outdoor storage not within 10 ft, storage not within 25 ft of lot lines, piles not exceeding 20 ft. Some of them are some guidelines.
Hazardous. One of the big things is they they first attributed this fire to lithium ion batteries. Please note that hazardous commodities, waste, oil containers, lithium batteries, plastics must be stored separately. 527 CMR
35.5.11. So that's just it's just something they weren't doing right. They weren't separating. The owner attributed the fire to the lithium ion batteries. We told them you need a pie. It's hazardous commodities. When you have a recycling facility, it's incumbent on you to go
through. When somebody drops off a pile of of, you know, it's it's recycling there. It is com some combustibles get mixed in with that because there was a fire. So, there is combustibles. I believe it's incumbent on them to make
sure lithium ion batteries do cause fires that they go in there and they separate those hazardous hazardous processes. Let's see. Your operations also require specific annual and periodic permits. According to our records, these are more
permits have not been obtained. These are closed high pile storage. Flammable and combustible liquids. That's waste oil and acetylene. Um they're dumpsters. You could add that one testing and maintenance. So if you've been and then some of them are recommendations. So I
believe it's like seven seven or so violations. The biggest one having not having a procedure to report the fire. Was I close? Seven. Did Did the fire department receive a
phone call for the Never? Not not from the facility. Not at all. Right. Council Lamo. Um it's unfortunate that it took for this event to take place um in order for um
in order for the city to be aware of all these violations or the lack of permits. So, Chief, um, when when would you say was the last time this facility, so once a license is approved or renewed or a permit or a license is approved or
renewed, how often does the city, whether it's through the fire department or through ISD, um, at what point do we audit or review to make sure that they're in compliance? The yearly we try to do inspections on any permit. We try to do it yearly. As I
spoke before, it it comes down to manpower. I spoke to um you know how many people we have. I actually spoke to Mr. Tetler about that and he wasn't aware of some of these these things. And what we always say as the fire department, it's your business. It's
incumbent on you to know what you have to do, what license you have to do, and pull your permits, your licenses according to your businesses. Um, a lot of people just wait for us to go by and to kind of catch them. And again, when
we have 10 to 15,000 buildings in the city, maybe we can't get to every one. But I'm sure their insurance company would not be happy having not having certain licenses and stuff like that. But again, it's incumbent on them to make sure as they're running their
business, they're doing what they're supposed to do. We're just the checks and balances. And I get it, Chief. But um the same way that we have to uh ensure that restaurants are also in compliance considering I'm not sure how
this business is coded. Um, but if they're dealing with hazard hazardous materials and waste and it's so toxic as we're describing it, then I believe the city somehow needs to do their due diligence to ensure cuz we can't just
uh pretend that, you know, every permit and every license that we're issuing that all these businesses are going to be going according to to the to the law. I I agree. The probably the problem is they're not pulling the licenses. They're not. So when we're going down
see our licenses to check to go do an inspection, they're not pulling their licenses. There's really nothing in chapter one my books, the fire department books, chapter 148, 527 CMR. We don't like a nightclub, we do 304 inspections. If you have a daycare, we
do quarterly inspections. There's certain things that we have to go. their their business doesn't really require the fire department to go on a quarterly basis or whatever. If they have a permit from us, we have the right to walk on
their property at any time that we want to in investigate and to to do an inspection on on that. So, if you have a if you have an acetylene permit from the fire department, the fire department has every right to come in and do an inspection on that. if you don't allow
us on your property, we'll we'll revoke that. But yes, that they we could probably do a better job at at checks and balances on places um such as this and many others. I agree, Chief. I hear you, but is disappointing.
Your answer is disappointing, which could you clarify, counselor? Yeah, it is because we have two of those businesses and th those businesses are tre a tremendous everybody knows them. Yeah, it seems if it is a business that
everybody knows is because it is calling people's attention for multiple reasons. So if if we as a resident see that it could be something there the firefighter should have a a quarterly 6 month or
yearly inspections on those because there's not many I know that in the clubs you have I mean everybody meet together and review those over 70 license that we have uh for liquors
and that get done every year because it gets suspended every year and for them to renew you need to give the okay and the other departments as well that could be the same situation with only these two businesses because it's not many of those council you done council
thank you to you I got records of me reporting all kinds of issues with the metal place and also requesting ISD to go inspect for the past year and one inspector wasn't sent there at So I think the city
is lacking on inspection when it comes to those businesses and we should have known or everything they're on violation if they would to follow my emails that I have on record and go at least once and we may we may be able to prevent that fire if we were
to go once to inspect this place. The question that I have now is who is going to uh uh who's going to now make sure that they're not on operation while this is going on? who was going to be there showing because two hours after you guys left or maybe less they were fully
operating fully operating machines moving stuff all around like nothing happened on the same day of the fire so who's going to enforce that from now on and who's going to inspect them re regularly yeah they they are the business owner but do we have a way to track because I mean when my inspection
sticker is expiring I get an email that my inspection sticker is expiring I get an email when my my my registration is expiring Yes, my insurance call me when my insurance is expiring. So, they pull up a permit, let's say a year ago, and it's almost expiring and we don't have a system to track down and
say, "Let me go and see when they're going to renew this." Inspectional services should be there on a regular time. Every time there is every time there is a complaint, regardless how small the complaint is, they should show up. Even the fire department or inspection service should show up just in case. Yeah.
It doesn't have to wait to be a fire. I mean luckily nobody lives around there or it didn't go that far but it could have because of us as a city a lacking of inspectional again I got emails at counelors that I can show you that I've been complaining and requesting
impressional service to send an inspector there and nobody went there again if it would have sent an inspection one at least one inspection done in the in this year they would have find the violations maybe this fire would have be prevented you would have And when would it be
where we at right now? And they probably wouldn't be in business running because they would have be up to date. Yes. So I when it comes to the city, I would take I would take the blame on this. I mean I would take the blame for the city because one report noise complain we show up with the cops 20 cups for noise
complaints. You know somebody drinking on a sidewalk, they show up 20 cups. But when it somebody report a violation in a company like this that has all kinds of hazardous materials and no inspector sent over it it tells it tell us a lot of or a lack of a service when it comes to keep
our city safe and that's what I'm that's what I'm going to say. Council President, thank you. I have a question for my colleague. Were you CCing the district counselor on these communications so that she can follow up and to ensure that inspectional services was doing their part? No, I was not.
Okay. All right. Council 11. Yeah. Thank Thank you, Council President. Uh, a couple of years ago, uh, Council President, do you remember that before we provide a the renew of the license,
we asked for so many uh um the the the license. So we also ask before you know before we renew the license we ask for an inspections from the fire department we asked for
inspection from uh the city inspector uh we asked also uh the OSHA inspection and there were so many things that we asked and at that time it was provided and that is why we issue the license so I don't know what happened so if at the
time that they came in here requesting the renewal of the license if they say yes or they did not provide all of this information. The a lot of different licenses require different different things at the fire
department. Anytime if it's requested to do an inspection, we'll go do an inspection. Our members are out doing inspections every day. We do a lot of inspections. Some of them when you go on citizen serve and to apply I'm not sure with this license but sometimes it could
say a fire report an inspection from inspectional services. This one in in citizen serve I'm not aware what you need as a counselor to make your decision to to you know grant this particular license. One things that
caught my attention is like a sprinkle were not working and also the the alarms was not working. That is a very issue. Well, it it's not that they they weren't working, counselor. It's that every year your sprinkler system and your fire
alarm system. You need a piece of paper saying that the company came in, they checked that everything that's okay. They didn't. That's what we ask when we come in. Where's your yearly report? But how company like this do not receive because when I was a manager of one of
the building in here I just receive you know uh a notification is your time just to clean your uh your sprinkle system and you guys come out at 4:00 in the morning just to empty every everything.
So places like this you'll be checking more often than maybe any building. Yeah, I I agree with you. And again, I have to state it's really incumbent on them to keep their systems up and running. I I preach all the time in the city that you if you don't have your
your sprinkler system checked for three or four years and your system malfunctions and we deal with the insurance companies all the time, the insurance companies looking for a reason not to pay out. So if if you're not doing the right thing by your sprinkler
system, your fire alarm system, and you have a fire, you're opening yourself up to the insurance company to say if you did what you were supposed to do by the law, by the code, this fire wouldn't happen, and uh we're not going to pay you. We we do see that
fire alarm should not be connected to the fire department for Yes, it should be for that. They should have a third party. The sprinkler system if it's activated should go to a third party only if it activates. Yes.
Counselors. Any question to the mayor complain? I'm sorry. The mayor also complains that we already have it in here is the pollutions. The what? The pollution. The pollution. Yes. Oh. Oh. That's is one of the major complaint
that we are having, you know, from the people. from the residents. What's that council? Sorry. Mhm. But why? That's is one of the major complaint that we are having. Councilors, we have we also have the
inspection of services here. Any questions for the inspection service? Council president? Council Land. I have a few questions uh and some concerns. I I first want to know if the uh uh fire
marshall uh the state fire marshall has something to do with this and like me this is new for me. So this No, the state fire marshall is is ready and you know to come down if they're called. We didn't call them in
for this. They're they're really um criminal prosecution. If we felt that this fire had been started um deliberately or there was something, we would have caught them. We would have called them in. Again, our
interviews um we had about three of our fire investigators. We witnessed, we um interviewed everybody and again this this was witnessed. They were working on the pile when this happened. Their workers were were right there. So we
didn't we didn't feel that it was that it was um that it was necessary to call the state fire marshall's office. Um, what I and and and and correct me if I'm wrong, but the attorney mentioned that um,
let me put it this way that it it could be intentional. Yeah, those are serious allegations and they should those are serious allegations and they should probably, you know, thinking back a little bit because everything's on camera. So when you make al
Chief, can I finish my point? Yes. I think I'm what I'm trying to say here and I with all the respect I'm just listening to both parties and and if if that the party that uh the attorney
mentioned that and if uh it should be take taken in in consideration. This is just my opinion. I spoke to him today and I told him if he has any witnesses, he has any cameras, he has any inclination. I thought it was an off
remark to to insinuate that this fire was of arson in nature. That's a very serious allegation that the Lawrence Fire Department, you know, we we don't take lightly. Again, our investigators investigated everybody everybody that
witnessed this fire. We pulled video from all around. Um, our investigators uh do this all the time and they're very good at it. Calling in the state fire marshal and our thing would have been a waste of resources cuz we didn't believe that this was it emanated from
underneath okay the pile in the middle of scrapyard where they're working on the fire department investigated determinated that it started there and yeah we we have the area of origin but we we we'll leave this as undetermined
and this is the first time that we are aware of a fire no that it was reported no I think that's also false I've been to personally have been to fires at this facility how many times in the last 50 years we know of uh I
could tell you two or three off the top on top of my head. Is that part of of one of the uh um the type of business that they Yeah, that that would be fair to say. Facilities you see them on the news in Somerville and Chelsea and different
parts of of the country um different starts of of the state all all the commodities if they're not doing what they're supposed to and separating their hazardous materials and you're talking oils, you're talking batteries. Um yeah, it's it's not a common occurrence, but
we have fires in in Massachusetts at these types of facilities. Um you know, okay, but that's that's fair to say that is part of uh a consequences of the type of job that they do. I that is that fair to say?
Well, fires could be prevented and if they're doing their right thing and they're following the codes and the laws, it should be there really shouldn't be anything that's combustible in there. I think that it we also trying to figure it out. Well, I'm trying to figure out as a counselor. First, I need
to understand the type of job that your comp that the company does and also I need to trying to understand uh your your um uh professional opinion chief. Yes. Don't take it person. Oh, not at all.
Okay. Thank you. My other question is and it has to do with uh I my I I uh according to what uh some of the comments this went in front of the uh
ordinance committee how long ago it went in front of the ordinance committee last last meeting last meeting so how many weeks council president like four weeks two weeks ago so and none of these questions were asked at that meeting. Uh uh can I ask
the chair of the committee council president? Of course. Thank you, council president. Uh councelor La Plan. So none of this this questions about safety and all the complaints that according to councelor Ros de Rosario he's receiving none of
this was mentioned at that meeting. So we I know that I asked a very pointed question because I I was very curious about the company asked questions regarding the company uh and I also asked questions regarding is there anything we should be concerned about. I
asked a very broad open-ended question to invite u because I wasn't sure where these kinds of things were going but I wanted to know were was there anything that would that would that we should know about that was on tour any problems with the facility that we should be aware of and the answer that I received
that gave me confidence was no there isn't what I'm hearing tonight if if I could extrapolate just a little bit counselor is what I'm hearing tonight is that there's been at least some fires uh that have taken place at the facility. I don't know the timing of those fires.
That would have been good for us to know at the ordinance committee or that way we could have said when was the most recent fire? What are you doing with that? How are how was that settled? I mean just that possibility didn't we weren't even entertaining it because the answer that we received council
president was such that we've got a pretty good business. We got a handle on it. There's been no complaints. things seem to be going pretty well and we were and and and so we went ahead and gave it with a favorable recommendation and um just to
I'm trying to understand this uh that's why I'm asking all these questions pardon me but also the concerns expressed by councelor Gregu they were not brought up on that meeting through you council president uh council
in their live stream So, so council council del my colleague and and member was not at that meeting that evening. Um, so that that was not brought up. Okay. Well, and I could I could I could add to that. Council Lar I I don't want an answer from you. I I I it's clear you were not
president. I was not president and when it was who council I wouldn't know on it. Uh, okay. Thank you, council uh uh Rosario. So, I'm and I'm seeing this also as a business owner and and knowing how the city works
and and this is it's I'm concerned about how soon and why are we dealing this as an emergency without and I understand the fire chief uh uh concern and the
inspection of services. Why are we taking this as an emergency before giving this company or any other company an opportunity to fix what they doing wrong because a few weeks ago they were
perfect. They were okay to be approved. None of this was out at the table. So now unfortunately they had an accident. The good thing we didn't lose any life. Good. Thanks God
or the universe. But things happen, things happen, accidents happen. And the type of work that they do is kind of expected. I'm not excusing that. You know, there's certain things that you guys need to follow in certain permits.
But a few weeks ago, we had a perfect company in front of us. And now we have a company that is not in compliance. So that's my first concern. And I know council president didn't wanted to add there but I also want to know who owns
the property next to that uh the business I would like to know that for the future for a future um meeting. Yeah. Uh before you answer that the second question uh just to clarify the
firefire department they were they were clear that uh they're not seeking for any type of uh suspension. What they doing is working with the company uh to they not they have they don't have no
ask at this point. they're working with the company to make sure that they're in compliance and then that's when they're going to lift the that um cease and desist the cease and deceas uh provision that they have and or perhaps they can bring it up to
the council for further uh for further discussion potentially it could be I'm assuming that it could be the the the bringing that bringing the license discussion back to the table if the the
firefighter and inspection service believe that this is appropriate, but at this point, and correct me if I'm wrong, you're not asking for anything from them on this matter. Correct. That's correct. They still have the cease and desist, and as soon as they're ready, the fire department will do an
inspection. One one of the things that I I have to say is that um the night of the fire I gave him a verbal cease and desist which has to be filled up with has to be followed up by paperwork. But we did allow them over this process to
start rememuding remed uh the hazards. You can't tell somebody your room's messy but you can't clean it. So we we allowed them to still work to be able to minimize um the owner Mr. Tetler told me he was going to get a lot of the
material off site. If I'm if we say that, yeah, your your stuff's too close to your building, but you can't move it, that's really not fair to them. So, if anybody did see them working, they were only allowed to correct um what was
wrong. They weren't they were told verbally that night they weren't it wasn't going to be business as usual. You're not taking any customers. You're not doing anything. Actually that night we told them they could still work inside their property because this this fire didn't happen inside their
property. The next day when we went and we did a full inspection of the property, the totality of all the violations led to a cease and desist of the property itself. Uh I I can I reclaim my time council president. I haven't finished. Well, sorry council.
Uh there is one things that we not we're not going to entertain. Councelor Lzon, we don't want to bring uh the issue of potential uh arsenal situation when the firefighter have investigate that and we don't want to put the other business uh
in jeopardize due to a potential um allegation. No, it is it is it is not fair for the other business to kind of come up at this level based on an allegation that is a potential fire was pro provoked by them.
It's like no, we're not entertaining that. We are focusing on the discussion and if if the information could be provide to council by email and u and feel free to share with other counselors that are requesting of the potential or
the allegated um I business council president thank you so much and I think I was uh like uh very specific about the question so I just wanted to hear both sides because they mentioned that but thank you so
much. We're not going to entertain that, but I would like to get that information by email as soon as possible. Uh, so what I um, council president, with all due respect, uh, I don't understand why
are we dealing with this as an emergency um, and not I think this should be should have been sent to a committee and also and that's just an opinion. uh a council president. Uh but my other
concern is that we are putting this company uh here and and the people that are watching and uh it it looks like uh uh putting uh the negative aspect of their business.
We're putting that out there instead of um letting them uh follow a process. uh not yes they have things to fix just to give them an opportunity as the firefighters mentioned and if they don't
follow the process and and they don't get their business um in order I then we should uh uh as a council uh had an opportunity to uh review this. I think the fire department
and the expressional department, they need to do their job. Uh I know they're doing it. I know they're doing it. I mean, but I mean to follow a process to let them get the licenses and the things that they need because
right now, if I go back a few weeks ago, everything was in perfect order. And now what I have in front of us is it brings a lot of questions. Thank you. Council president, before we get to you, councelor Infante,
let's go on around again. So, councel have some questions and um I going to recognize her. Council Lamar. Oh, okay. Um I just want to leave with some lasting remarks. Again, what I want to reiterate is that based on what my
colleagues are saying, um once again, it's unfortunate that it took for a fire and it's unfortunate that um it happens to be your business cuz no business wants to be in the middle of a situation where they are now the example of how
what to me it reveals a breakdown of how we operate as well. Um because I'm pretty sure along with this business, it's so many others that are probably in violation whether it's a salon or a barber shop, restaurants or nightclubs. So what what this situation to me it's
it's revealing that we need to do better. um how is it that we could enforce um whether it's via more personnel um what areas are we focusing on in terms of following up once we are
approving um these licenses and then maybe on a subcommittee level um when we are addressing these for renewals we need to have access to this information in order for us to make a proper decision of appro approving or
denying what I also want to state is that and I want to take the opportunity to um address my disappointment with my colleagues in receiving information. If it's so egregious and if it's so serious in nature
considering that this is in my district, why wasn't I made aware of this? Um as this situation is a reflection of me as well. Um so I I want to take the opportunity to to put some of you guys on notice. Um, I think it's uh a
complete disregard, um, a lack of respect and I'm just completely disappointed for me not to be aware of something so serious in nature and if it's in so many occasions that you have received um whether it's via
emails or phone calls, I would like to be aware of this so I could be part of the solution as well. All right, council presidente. Thank you. Thank you. um made some notes here, but I be quick because some of it was already stated. I just quickly want to
say I believe was this there's a 50/50 at fault here. 50 the company 50 the city of Lawrence um businesses with such level of hazard activity. We should have especially being an having such an established fire department that's an
example to so many other fire departments. we should have an established process for all businesses across the board. Just because there isn't a law at the state level or or wherever does not mean that we shouldn't have our own processes in place to
regulate these businesses. And same everything that the counselor said, same goes to to the business. Um secondly, and this this goes this piggybacks a little bit with what council Marmmo just said, but the importance of
communicating. I'm not going to say everything else, but the the importance of communicating within each other as counselors is that situations like this may may create an opportunity for us counselors to to think of to for us
counselors to think of other things that may not be the intent or may not be the situation. which is why it's important for all of us to communicate when there are situations in districts and make sure that the appropriate counselor is involved because we don't want to
misinterpret or or think otherwise. Um, and lastly, what I do want to say to your company is that, and I I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but I do want to highlight highlight the fact that you
stepped into high gear to fix or to try to improve the situations that um are in violation. Now on the flip side, as you heard, I I also share the sentiment of my colleagues being of disappointment because you guys have been established
for so so many years and you should know better. But on the flip on the other flip side, I have heard and seen I've sat in in meetings and I have witnessed businesses not being as willing to work with the city to fix the issues that the
city has brought forth. And they're still in business today. and I've seen with my own eyes some of these businesses that may be there should be an inspection um for them. So I want to commend you on that but also you guys should have known better and that's all
I want to say. All right. Thank you councelor Shante just to bring some clarities to this type of business. Um the type of license that they have is type three license and then and a special license from the
council which uh type three license allow a savage uh vehicle uh to be or salvage vehicle perhaps to be recycled and then the special license that they have from the council is the recycling portion of it
which allow the business to operate under different type of metal perhaps. Uh and and that's only two in the city of Lens that are allowed to uh perhaps the type three license we have I believe
eight type of those license um that we basically the city of Lam stopped to give those license for such a long time I believe over years and uh and all those license are grandfathered in uh those type three license uh for quite
some time. Uh um but that's just to bring this up to uh to the table as well. Counselors, any other questions? Chief, what do you want us to do with this item? Do you want it to send be sent to committee and potentially
subsequentially? Whatever whatever the pleasure of the council is, it's a week tomorrow at this fire and I and I've seen nothing yet. I've really I've talked to I've talked to them. They have a book where they have complied, but I am yet to see
anything. And with with all due respect, I don't think the fire department should take 50% of the blame for this. We we had a tier one response to this facility probably 3 four years ago where we which
a tier one response is a response from the hazardous materials team because they had unidentified chemicals. I could look back to see when we've when we've been to their facility. We're here to assist them in any way that we can. But
um again, the biggest thing is is we can't I can't say enough their lack of calling for us. We don't know. We teach this to the kids. When you pull a hook at a school, you don't understand that we dump all our resources to that school. So you don't know what else that
goes on in the city that somebody was having a difficult time breathing. There was a car accident. There was something else. And again, I think there that's the big thing for the fire department. Their lack of calling us and getting in the phase that first sorry that you
don't have the pictures, but that first little thing of smoke coming out where I could show you the pictures after that was this inferno. And if the council of plant could smell that over in his district at his house, they could smell that in North Andover. The fire
department went around to all the businesses where they were sitting out there watching the fire. And it was going around saying, "This is very very bad stuff. Go away or go to your house because you don't want to breathe this in." Um it's it's bad stuff. and um
we're willing to give them any assistance that we that they need. But again, I've only had a conversation with them where he has a report that he hasn't uploaded. It's all in there. I just spoke to him at 2:00 and I I really haven't seen anything. If he's ready,
we'll go over tomorrow and do an inspection. So, to answer your counsel, I'm not really looking for anything. What I'm look from the council, I'm looking for them to come into compliance for their facility and for for their business. Council president, uh before you before you before I give
you the floor inspection services, do you mind coming up to the Sure. Yeah. Let me let me just ask him very question. Any counselors? Do you have anything to add to this discussion? Uh no, I just want to say that an inspection was conducted back in May. I
was out on family leave about 6 weeks and there was an incident and an inspector was sent over there. Um, I would have to talk to Peter Blanchett to find out exactly what happened with that inspection. Council Lo, you have the floor. Thank you. I would like to make the comment that about the 50/50.
My comment about the 50/50 just isn't about this particular business. We have two of these types of businesses that are that have the le the level of hazardous materials that we should have some type of process to inspect. It shouldn't be once yearly. When when
there's so many toxins and and hazards that can happen, the fire department should be going more than once a year, just like I think you mentioned a business that's every six months or something like that. That would be in my opinion more appropriate with these type of businesses. And that's why in my
opinion, we could, you know, agree to disagree, but in my opinion, the fault is 50/50. The city of Lawrence and the business. So, um, so I'm speaking for the building department side. Um, they they're supposed to do a, uh, periodic 110
inspection, but again, that's that's the building commissioner. He's in charge of that, and I will find out tomorrow from him to see if they've been down or not. Right. Thank you. U, any any questions for the inspection services? No, no questions. What motion to take? By all means.
Well, okay. Motion to this suggestion says move this to it fell for the lack of second. So, you have the floor. Okay. Um, is it feasible to move this item to a subcommittee level and have
any pending like because obviously there's several things that are pending. The intent is to be sent to a committee. Yeah. Any questions counselors? Let's open the floor for the company. If I may, I just want to stress the
point that my my client is committed um to coming back into compliance. Um this was the first major incident they've had. I believe they've been in the city uh I believe they've been in the city of Lawrence um uh since the 70s. Um this is their first major incident and and they
took the steps ready uh ready and willing to come back into compliance. We don't want another incident like this. We're looking forward for uh many more um years of productive business and in bringing um to the Lawrence community and the economy. Um want to thank you for your time and thoughtful
consideration of of this issue and um we look to be in compliance. I don't believe it will be a further issue for you or we'd have to come back before you um and hope to be in compliance in relatively short time. Thank you. If there is no further question, I would
I'll send this item to committee. Any other questions? Uh the seat attorney council, I don't believe you can send it to committee. You've just taken an emergency motion to not send it to committee. You've kept it up here. I believe you can table it and keep it up here, but you've already taken a vote
not to set into committee. Right. No problem. Thank you. Motion to table. There's a motion to table properly. Second discussion. I mean, no, no discussion on the table matters. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? Guys have it. Thank you so much. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. Services. Uh counselors, we
have a few employees here that have been here since 7 o'clock since 7 this morning. Uh item from the bay and finance committee item 3 35625. Uh the director of the DPW is here. So madame chair, madame chair of the bay on
finance. Item 356-25, authorization to expend funds up to $500,000 um from the Eversource Street repair reimbursement was sent up as a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. There's a motion to allow the DPW to
spend up to $500,000 from the Evers repair reimbursement. Any questions? Councilors, are we clear? What's this? Yeah. Okay. Uh there is no questions. All those available, please say I. I any ns the eyes have it.
Thank you councelor. Thank you. No problem. So councilors uh uh 34025. This is the motion to table. I believe councel vice president. Yep. 340-25 at the request of of our acting careful.
I am making a motion to table until further communication. There is a motion to table. Properly said properly second. All those in favor please say I. I. guys have it. So, let's go to ordinance committee with items that we have people here
or P. Let's go to ordinance 341. I'm not I'm not sure who's here for what. I do see that we do have folks here for the compensation for school committee members, but that I believe is going to be sent to order a public hearing, I believe, on that. Yeah, we have 34125 here.
34125. Yeah. The retirement board. You got it. Um or committee sent uh an increased stipen for the retirement board and treasurer that's going to be modified for $3,000. present that to the full council with
approval recommendation um as amended and then make that in the form of a motion. Second, uh there is a motion on the table properly second. Councelor, do you mind specifying the amendment? Give me a second. So, give me a moment so I can pull it up out of memory to
make this real fast. I think it's the treasurer by law cannot have a change. However, the board members can't have an increase in their stipend. So, that is a removal of the of the treasurer position. That's the amendment. Did you get all that, clerk?
Um, it's the same thing that came out of committee. Uh, I think we talked about in committee and that's how it was sent up. So, councilors, any questions? I hear none. All those in favor, please say. I have it. Um, we have um we have a
couple of items that are people are here. item from personnel. I believe city attorney you here specifically for what item? I'm here for under ordinance 35925 asking you to
table that. Okay. All right. Item 35925 reclassification of ADA coordinator position. I see the attorney have request to table this. Uh the the committee had asked for additional information. We do not have that information. So we're
Yep. So I'll give the committee report. Council President from the ordinance committee. This is a reclassification of the ADA coordinator's position was sent up to the full council I think as a committee report. Let me just pull that up. I'm not sure if it was a payroll recommendation pending or was a
committee report. Give me a second. Committee report. as a committee report uh and pending we're looking for the documentation from this from this from this uh HR director as well as the direct supervisor in this case a DPW director. Uh that's my
motion. Um I'm looking for a second and then I will ask for a motion to table. Oh motion to accept the item as a committee report uh properly second discussion. I'd like to make a motion to table. Um do you want to accept it first and then we table at this level? We're going to
table right here. The committee reports table with that. What's that? You can if you want to. We can do it. It doesn't make a difference to me. We can table that. That's fine. We can either either or that's fine. Um do you have a motion to
table? I mean there's a motion to table. Can hear second properly second. No discussion on matters. All those in please say I I have it. We also have the that item on on personnel. I believe that that item from personnel
come with a fair recommendation. Do you mind um presenting that? 35925 is a request to table that matter also. Yes, council vice president 359-20 I mean it's the same. Okay. 359-25
under the personnel committee was sent up with a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion for discussion. There's a motion to accept it as a uh for discussion essentially eventually we will uh follow the recommendation of the
city of Cheney. Any discussion on this matter president? U this been secondhand. Thank you. I just want to uh report to the to the council. We did we reviewed the job description portion of it. Um,
we we had conversations with the acting HR director, asked her if the job description itself for this position has been updated with current um current duties or or tasks that may have been
added throughout just by nature nature of the of the of the environment here at city hall. She did uh confirm that the job description has been updated and there was a few questions about grade um salary grades and all of that that was answered.
We have a motion to approve. Do you um councelor do you mind? I make a motion to table from the personnel committee item five of 359-25 pending the recommendation from the city pending the recommendation from the city attorney or
and other department and other department heads other department heads second. There is a motion to table prop. Can I hear a second? Second properly second. Um all those in favor please say I I uh any ns the eyes have it. Thank you so
much. And then under 34225 and personnel. Okay. Madame chair from the personnel committee. Item 34225. Item 342-25 um to confirm the appointment of Charlene Pasqual as a director of
community development was sent up as a committee report and I make that as a formal motion. There is a motion to accept the committee report properly. Second. Discussion. Discussion. Council. I believe this is a request to withdraw without prejudice.
Um, as you may or may not know, um, if you don't take a vote tonight, unfortunately on tomorrow it becomes effective. So, we're asking that we withdraw this without prejudice. It will be resubmitted. All right. There is a motion. Um, I do two. Okay. Council,
thank you. I do I do want to make a comment about this that I'm a bit disappointed about. Not even 30 minutes after the personnel meeting. I received a video from a district E constituent
and it was a video of Miss Pascal giving a speech outside of city hall. The first sentence in this video in Spanish was to to her group of supporters, as you heard in there, I am not qualified for this
position, but God has put me here um for a reason, this process for a reason. This video was about two minutes long. Further down the video, there was a topic that was shared with this group publicly
that was a topic that was discussed during executive session. And the first thing I me I mentioned to the group was everything discussed during executive session, the minutes are private until the final vote. And after the final vote, the
minutes of executive session become public information. So I am disappointed in that. Um to me, I mean that yeah and I I like the individual, but we're talking about the position
itself. We're talking about leadership and all of that. And I just this process is active or right now it might be reactivated, I should say. and we have to let the process go through. Um, and that's all I have to say about that.
Okay. U, any other questions? Right. We have a Can I can I get a motion to have this item withdraw without prejudice? Motion. Council Le before we entertain that motion. Council Le. Yes.
Okay. Thank you. It's the Okay. Press the button. I haven't seen I haven't seen uh council press I haven't seen the video but that she had the authority to speak whatever that
we said on the executive session she has she has authority to say anything she wants about herself I don't I mean she she is the executive session is you're bound by the executive session so alone that is not coming from us
for for instance okay you're you're not allowed to talk about reputation. Okay, I could go out tomorrow and say Tim Putin is the greatest guy in the world. Um, you know, that's my reputation. Um, I'm free to do it because it's my reputation. You're
not free to talk about it if you say I heard a whisper that Tim Hooton, you know, likes grilled cheese sandwiches burnt, you know, something of that nature. It's just so it's a outrageous example, but I'm saying it. A person has the right to say anything they want about themselves.
Okay. So she we can do anything. I wouldn't say it was a wise decision. Okay. I would but I do see it's a decision a person has the right to make. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Uh okay councelor I will entertain a motion.
Motion to withdraw without prodig second. There is a motion to withdraw without prejudice. Properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any guys, have it. Thank you. And I didn't know, council president, if you wanted me to stand in on the old
business for Dan McCarthy. I don't have any information, but I don't know if you wanted a body here. I mean, uh, he actually asked us to table this matter, right? Okay, that's great. Then I just wanted to Yes. I knew he was sick this evening, so I wanted to make sure that somebody Thank you so much, city. Thank you very much. Thank you, councelor.
Counselors, we going to top of the agenda. Could anybody else hear from any other item? Uh we go on top of the agenda public hearings. We have item 5525. Uh believe that together with item
14125. Madame Bair Mad Madame clerk please read the notice. They are ready. Thank you, Council President. Document number 55-25 and document number 141-25
um both relate to um 15-minute parking. Notice is hereby given that the Lawrence City Council will hold a public hearing on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025 at 7 PM in the council chambers, 200 Common Street, Lawrence Mass, pursuant to chapter 2 of the acts of 2023 and in
accordance with the recently revised city council rule 2. This meeting will be hybrid allowing for participation both in person and remotely to accommodate participants with health considerations that prevent them from participating in person. To receive access codes for the remote participation, please contact the city
clerk at eene.branernal cityoflawance.com or 978-620-3230 or view the meeting on Facebook and YouTube. The purpose of the hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning the proposed amendments to the revised ordinances of
the city of Lawrence to be further amended by adding the following subparagraph in the proper alphabetical order to section 10.36.2. 260 of the municipal code 15minute parking. Document number 55-25 is Union
Street, West Side, from a point 150 ft north of Elm Street to a point 170 ft north of Elm Street between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. And document number 141-25 is Sunset Avenue north side from a from a point 20 ft east of Lawrence Street to a
point 40t east of Lawrence Street between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m. Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. All right, public hearing is now open. Anybody from the public that wishes to speak? Uh, there is none. Public hearing is now closed. Counselors, what's the motion
for both both items? Oh, motion to approve. Motion to approve item 5525 together with item 14125. It's a 50-minute park minute parking. Two different locations. 160 Union Street and the other one is to
333 Lon Street. Can I hear a second? Second. Properly second. discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item um 12325.
Madame clerk, please read the notice. Could I get a motion to wave the preamble to the preamble? There's a motion to w the preamble. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. Any nays? That is have it. Madame Clair, please read the notice. Document number
123-25 and 327-25 both relate to daycare dropoff zones. The purpose of this hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning the proposed amendment to revised ordinances of the city of Lawrence to be further amended by adding
the following sub paragraphs to section 10.36.450 of the municipal code daycare dropoff zone in the proper alphabetical order. Document number 123-25 Walnut Street West Side from a 78 ft north of Center
Street to 0.98 ft north of Center Street and deleting the following sub paragraph from section 10.36.450 of the municipal code document number 327-25 Tyler Street north side from a 135 ft east of Newton Street to 155 ft
east of Newton Street. Persons wishing to be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. Right. U public hearing is now open. Everybody from the public that wishes to speak now is the time. There is none. Public hearing is now closed. Counselors uh we have two different motions. One to approve and
and a specific childcare parking look uh and the other one is to remove. Let's do it individually. I I'll enterain a motion for item 12325. U counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve and wave the 30 days. There's a motion to approve and wave the 30 days. That's for child care parking
at 236 Wellness Street properly. Second discussion discussion council. The reason that I waited 30 days there there's a car wash. I was talking to Miss Zavat last week and they actually struggling to drop off the kids there. So it this is one of the spot that that
I believe it it will make a difference if we have that for her and her business there. All right. Uh there's a motion to approve properly second. Uh any other discussion? I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. You guys have it. Item uh 32725, which
is the removal of the childcare parkings uh parking spot at 41 Taylor Street. Councilor, what's the motion? Motion to approve. There's a motion to approve. Second. Properly second. Discussion. Um I hear none. All those in favor,
please say I. I. That have it. Item. Madame clerk, please read the notice for item 267, 268, and 269, please. Document number 267, 268, and 269 all relate to handicap parking. Document um
the purpose of this hearing is to gather testimony, information, and public input concerning the proposed amendments to revised ordinances of the city of Lawrence. be further amended by adding the following sub paragraphs to section 10.36.340 of the municipal code handicap parking in the proper alphabetical order.
Document number 267-25 Washington Street west side from a point 76 feet north of Broadway a should it is Broadway a that is the right word to a point 96 ft north of Broadway a and 26825 Foster Street east side from a 77
ft south of Springfield Street to a 97 ft south of Springfield Street and document number 269-24 Lebanon Street north side 1.142 feet west of Amesbury Street to 162 ft west of Amesbury Street. Persons wishing to
be heard shall be afforded the opportunity. Um public hearing is now open for those three items. Anybody from the public that wishes to speak? I hear none. Public hearing is now closed. Counselors, what's the motion? Motion to approve. There's a motion to approve that the three of them as a as a block.
Discussion. There's a U motion to approve uh 26725, 26825, and 26925. Discussion. Discussion. Yeah, I I I would prefer that in my district 26825 not be a part of the block, especially if we're
looking at wave to 30 days. Uh I don't like to wave the 30 days for anything in my district. So, if you are planning to wave the 30 days, I would ask that you not make that a part of it. What's you uh what's your intent? He's against it.
Yeah. All right. Uh the motion is to approve are all three the chief chie block. No waving. Okay. I mean fine. Thank you. All right. Uh there is a motion to approve properly second discussion.
There is no none all. The one that I would not want to see the weight of 30 days is 26825. If you wish to remove the 30 have the 30-day removal on the other two, I have no objection. But in my district, I prefer not to have
the 30 days rem um portion. Does that make sense? did you see a beach? So, do do you want to do you want to wait the 30 days on the other two or just just none of them?
All right. So, she she doesn't want to wave neither one. She said that she's willing to give his 30 days and the other 30. Okay. So, let's let's um let's do let's do it separate then. Let's do 267 and 269.
Uh first and that's uh a motion to approve and wave the 30 days. Correct? Uh can I hear a second on that? Second. Second properly second. Discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I have it. Item 26825 handicap parking at
38 Foster Street. Uh councilors, can I get a motion to can I get a motion? Motion to approve. There is a motion to approve. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Uh now let's thank you
counselor. Let's go to committees. Communication from the mayor, city attorney. There is none. Committee reports. We have the ban and finance committee which we finished already. Housing committee. There is no report. Ordinance committees top of the agenda 5 52824 councelor uh councelor the chair of the
ordinance committee councelor LA plan uh first one is document 52024 compensation for school committee members uh this was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation order a public hearing that's the motion second there is a motion on the table uh
to order a public hearing on the compensation package the compensation package counselors as we discuss on the committee there was prop a proposal of $8,000. We are going to be discussing that once we come up out of the ordinance committee as well as the
compensation package which include which include the the health insurance. We got an email uh that based on different research that CDH was going to send us more information when it comes to that.
But at up to the point that he was researching it, uh up to that point they we won't be able to offer the members health insurance because I believe that going to triggers the going to triggers
the retirement plan. uh as per the discussion with different parties including the superintendent's office from the school department they are willing to go very similar to to what the council have when it comes to
the compensation package which include a retirement retirement be part of the retirement system once they vested uh and they serve for over 10 years that's how the the retirement the retirement system triggers at the 10 years level uh
anything on that uh you don't get retirement. So that's going to be part of the retirement package as well. So we are going to be discussing that once the public hearing it's open and we close it at that point. We will be we'll be be
discussing that. U there's a motion to order a public hearing properly second. I believe that it was by Rosario. Council Rosario. So all those in f please say I the eyes have it. Item 50 uh 55124.
Uh this is a proposed anti-amping ordinance prohibiting unauthorized camping in public spaces. Was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. Second. The motion is to order a public hearing. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I.
I. The eyes have it. Item 21525. Handicap park and 24 ro street was sent up to full counsel with the favorable recommendation order public hearing. That's the motion. The order uh the motion is to order a public hearing properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I.
I. Have it. Item 27025. That's to remove two handicap parking space at a 71 Elm Street was sent up to full council with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. Motion is to order a public hearing properly second. All uh discussion. I hear none. All those in favor say I. I.
The eyes have it. Item 2885. Handicap parking at 28 Springfield Street was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. Uh there is a motion to order a public hearing for item 28824. Properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in
favor please. I have it. Item 28925. Handicap parking three big send up to the full council with a favorable recommendation to order public hearing. That's the motion. Second. All right. The motion is to order a public hearing. Item 28925 properly second. Discussion. I hear
none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 29025. Handicap park and 10 Hemlock street sent up to full council with a favorable recommendation to order public hearing. That's the motion. Second. All right. The motion is to order a public hearing item 2925. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All
those in favor say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 29125. Remove or modify. No parking signature. This is like that shouldn't be a public hearing on that. Yeah, it is. Anyway, um this is um
shrinking. Yeah, my colleague can speak a little better about this and it was very to me it was a little more complex, but yeah, there's there's a space there. I think the idea is to shrink it and um and to make it more definitive as to where it is. I think it's on South Broadway. Am I
right? So, so is there a no parking zone that need to be modified to make it smaller? Yes, that's exactly. Okay. So, not the sign because I mean by the sign is like I don't know. So, I think Yes.
So, they have two parking spot right now and they only want to have one. Okay. So, we actually could just anyway modify it. But to make it interesting and clear, remove or modify no parking signage at 343 South Broadway sent up to
the full council with a favorable recommendation. That's the motion to public hearing. That's the motion. So the that um the item is to remove a parking space look of no parking spot out of 343 South Broadway. Right.
Okay. We wanted the public hearing on that, right? Yes. is remove one and keep one there. Basically, it's a zone that's like 80 ft and we're going to make it down to 60 ft. So, why not? Pretty straight. It sounds more complicated to hear than it really is. All right. Um there is a motion to order
public hearing on item 29125 properly second. Um discussion I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I have it. Yeah. Madler just clarify the item the name of the item. Which one? The on that one so we clear. Sure.
All right. Ite on 29625 Helicop parking on on 6 Berkeley Street. Mr. Chair from the full council with the favor recommendation order of public hearing. That's the motion. There's a motion. There's a motion in front of us. Properly second. Uh discussion. I hear none. All those in
favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 29725. Handicap parking at 3 Eastern Street was sent up to full council with fable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. All right. There is a motion. There's a motion on sale properly second.
Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 29725. It's remove Handicap Parking at 14/16 Kuster Street was sent up to full council with a favor or recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. All right. That's item 30 303, right?
303 is correct. All right. Uh there's a motion to order a public hearing. Properly second. Discussion. All right. Um, all those in favor, please say I. I. Have it. Item 30425. Handicap parking at 121 East Table
Street was sent up to the full council with favorable recommendation to order a public hearing. That's the motion. There is a motion on the table, please second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. I have it. Item 24125. We're going to move to 35225, which is a disclosure of conflict by city
employees, election worker. Uh, that would be Adly Gonzalez, which sends up to full counsel with a table recommendation. That's the motion. So that's item 352, correct? Item 35225. Uh it's been um that that's a to Can you
repeat the motion again? Sure. It's a disclosure of a conflict of interest by a city employee in this case Adalie Gonzalez and this was sent up to the full council with a favorable recommendation. That's the motion. Right. There is a there is a motion to accept the disclosure.
Yep. Right. There's a motion to accept the disclosure properly second. Um discussion I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 35325. Another disclosure of a conflict by a city employee uh to work on the
elections for Rosa Arisina was sent uh sent to full council with approval recommendation to approve her disclosure. Make that in the form of a motion. Second. There is a motion to accept the disclosure. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I.
I. The eyes have it. Item 35425. Another disclosure of a clocked by a city employee to work the elections for Alisa Coco. Uh this was sent up to the full council with with a favorable recommendation to accept the disclosure. Right. There's a motion to accept the
disclosure. Second. Uly second by councelor Rees. Um discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. There is it. Item 35525. This is a disclosure by of a conflict by
a city employee for the working the elections for Lisa. Was it Mugno and this would be a fable recommendation to accept her disclosure. That's the motion. There's a motion on the table properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I.
The eyes have it on personal committee. Um the by sh uh the chair of the personnel committee council espressante personnel committee item 89-25 creation of job description and posting for school committee appointee education was
brought up as a favorable recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. There's a motion to uh there's a motion to approve the creation of the job description for item 8925 properly. Second discussion.
I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I. Any nays? The eyes have it. Item 9025 the creation of job description from posting for school committee appointee for finance. Madame sh I know. Sorry. It's okay. President
and item 9025 item 90-25 creation of job description and posting for school committee appointee within um the finance background was PO was sent up as a favor of a recommendation and I make that as a formal motion there's a motion on the table properly
second discussion I hear none all those in favor please say I I have item 9125 item 91-25 creation of job description impulse for school committee appointee within the legal field was sent up as a favor favorable
recommendation and I make that as a formal motion. Second. There's a motion on the table properly. Second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Public hearing. There is no report. Economic development. There is no report. Committee of the hall. There is no report. All business.
Item 35724. Uh authorization uh for contract over three years, a four years contract of 64750 uh to Credell Associate LLC. that Mr. M the director McCarthy has
asked us to actually table this item. Can I hear a motion to table? Motion to table. There's a motion to table properly. Second. Okay. Uh can uh we just noticed that council plan have recused himself.
So motion to table probably second. All those in favor all those in favor please say I. I. The eyes have it. Item 5825. I motion to table item 358-25. Second. U that's the authorization for contract
over 3 years 4 years contract of 164,750. The same one uh TR environmental. That's a motion to table properly second. Uh councelor La Plan just recruits himself due to the potential conflict of
interest. Um, all those in favor, please say I. I. The eyes have it. Counselors, any table matters that we wanted to discuss today? Any table matters? All right, we're going straight to new
business. New business. Um item 36125 authorization authorization to spend uh 122,938.71 office of planning and development and grant funds from uh MA mass mass mA
department of public health uh for winter protocol and temporary placement of fire victims. Uh that's going to go to the budget and finance committee authorization to spend 139,95 grant fund from uh MA department of
public health award to the mayor hall task force and Lawrence mass in motion for active transportation safe route to school and park and open space that's going to the bon finance committee item 36 36324
25 authorization to spend 95,765.20 20 Commonwealth worth of transportation infrastructure engagement trust fund that's going to the banana finance committee item 36425 of the decision to spend a,28
942,73 2026 um mass mass municipal public safety staffing grant that's going to the ban finance committee item 36525 authorization to spend authorization to pay year's build at
$32,8653. That's going to the budget finance committee. Item 36625 um issuance and liberty license Imperial elite transportation that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 36725
resident parking only Jackson between Jackson Court and Newbury Street and that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 36825 resident parking only at Abion Street that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 36925 handicap
parking located 93 Rain Street and that's going to the ordinance committee. Item 37025 handicap parking at 288 Height Street. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 37125 handic parking at 40 um 40 Ambient Street
number one. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 372 uh 25, no parking at Nor Street, North Side. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 37325, childc care parking at 80 con uh uh
Collins Street. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 37425 Hillside. Hillside up one way from Yel Street to Habra Street in a southly direction. That's going to
the ordinance committee. Item 37525 M Street One way from Hill from uh Hel from Hebrew Street uh to Yale Street in the north lead uh direction. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item
37625, old gold dealer license, uh, Wilkinson Diaz. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 37725, uh, Palm Brocket license. That's going
to the ordinance committee. Um item uh 379 25 uh grand marathon uh a.m. to 6:00 p.m. That's going to the ordinance committee. Radon 38025.
No parking on Urban A between Hampshire Street and Beniton Street 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. That's going to the ordinance committee. Item 38125, resident parking on Bronfield Street. That's going to the ordinance committee. Counselor's
subcommittee meetings. Is it okay? Sure. Madame clerk. Um, councils, thank you for indulging me on this one. This is with regard to document 326-25. It's on your places. Um, you'll see the committee report and then behind it the
police officers report. This relates to child care parking at 326, excuse me, the document number is 32625. It relates to child care parking at F 31 41 Ferburst Street. Um, this did come from the police department with a favorable
recommendation. Um I am asking if you would please consider taking this tonight adding it to your agenda as an emergency. If it doesn't get added to the agenda, it won't even get on the agenda till October. Um because we have to order the public hearing has to get publication. Um if it does, then it has
a chance to be publicized in the next round and it could be um voted on. We have an excellent working relationship with the committee secretary and she is amazing. She's never not given us a document before. it was a it fell through the cracks somehow got lost on her desk and she gave it to us after the
fact after the agenda was published. Um so I am asking if you could please indulge us um with that request to take this item as an emergency tonight to add it to the agenda. It was part of the committee report. It should have been on your agendas and it was not and I do apologize. You all have this at your seats.
So that's it. That is item 32625. Uh counselors uh we need to you need to suspend the rule to take it as emergency. We need to suspend the rule to take it as an emergency.
Uh can I get a motion for that? There is a motion to suspend the rules uh to declare this an emergency. It's been properly second discussion. I hear none. All those in favor please say I. I.
The eyes have it. Now, madame clerk, that I need a a motion now to order public hearing on that document. All right. Can I get a motion to order a public hearing? Motion to order a public hearing. There's a motion to order a public hearing. Properly second. Discussion. I hear none. All those in favor, please
say I. I. The eyes have it. Thank you very much, council. I sincerely appreciate that. No problem. Thank you. Um, committee meetings. Um, ordinance
next Tuesday 7 p.m. on the election day. Oh. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Never mind. Uh, by the way, now that we talk about election day, that's on the 16. That's the meeting uh the second meeting of the month. Uh we are going to be meeting on
on Thursday the 18th uh on that week after the election. Okay. So, ordinance committee next Tuesday at 7 p.m. Uh, Vanna Fus,
Wednesday the 10th at 7 p.m. Wednesday the 10th at 7 7 p.m. Um, I'm also going, Council President, I'm also going to schedule a public safety
meeting that I did, um, give a heads up to the committee that was going to do for also Wednesday, September 10th at 6 p.m. public safety, Wednesday, uh, at 6. Um
to everyone that I believe I saw Teresa sent um a communication to the police chief. Yeah. And we have an item from the firefire. If they have any update u they should
present it on that. Never mind. I never sent it to safety. Sorry. Oh stay up here. Yeah. All right. Um, we have housing. Any specific date for housing? No, we do not. So, you did you guys
discuss? Not yet. All right. Um, we have um economic development. Nothing yet. Okay. And we have personnel there that is any any personal maps. All right, council president.
Sure. I I mean we do have things I know before the housing committee and it's the I'm out front and outspoken. Everybody knows my position on the L stuff, but I just think we need to get that out there open and transparent. They did are part of
the process whether we like the projects or not. I think we should find some time to have those meetings as a courtesy to the administration and to the applicants who did their job by presenting it over to us. So I hope hope that we can make that happen and not have to delay any
further. Yep. Um all right committees has been set. Any other changes? Uh please communicate with the city clerk and the secretary secretary for potential day changes. Any
other questions? I'll entertain a motion to motion to adjurnn. Thank you. There's a motion to adjurnn. Probably second discussion. There is none. All those say I have it. Thank you, counselors.