##VIDEO ID:jQaF0E-WQxg## e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e January the 28th um what members here this evening are can you do a roll call please oh know I'm going to keep you busy let me see if Mr Del rard is with us I don't think so you want me to do a call oh um wait maybe he is in hold on yes hold on for one second I just see rosan Del Rosario go ahead councelor fidelina Santiago present councelor Selena Reyes present and chairman of councelor Gregory Del Rosario noted absent no he may be here oh Council delari are you with us monor Rosario he on Zoom he's on Zoom oh there he is that's so I think that's a yes councelor Gregory Del Rosario if you could just put your camera on Council Del Rosario because I can't hear anything that would we could confirm that maybe change the name or change the name because I don't have I don't have your name down just so you're aware Council delaro if that is you and your name's not on there uh we can't hear you and chairman Mark present all right we'll get we'll get to him in a second he's come back on uh purum of chapter 20 the acts of 22 this meeting of the ordinance committee is being conducted both in person and via remote remote participation a reminder that persons who would like to listen or view this meeting while in progress uh May either attend in person at the location here or use the following access locations including the Facebook Lawrence city council page and the Facebook Lawrence YouTube uh Lawrence sorry the YouTube Lauren city council page um with that I'll ask us all to rise for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to plag the United States of America and to the Republic which stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for [Music] all all right so what we're going to do this evening um Council Del Rosario can you hear us okay so the name on the screen has Rosanne Del Rosario I think we just need to make sure that it's councelor Del Rosario I do see the text message he um saying that you're thank you that you're here uh but that's going to be a problem because uh we're going to need to hear the vote uh when we take votes I can't um just do it by uh that's because of public meeting law regulations so we're going to need to hear the vote all right so we're going to start and we're going to try it again Council all right so we've got a couple of things this evening um there's no minutes so um the first thing we're going to do is um we're going to deal with 1625 this is the approved the layout and alteration plans for a portion of Glen Street and we have presenting this evening this Mr McCarthy good evening Mr M evening councilors Daniel McCarthy a launch planning department if I might approach I have some handouts these are all than thank thank okay more thanks Council Del Rosaria while we're waiting Mr McCarthy I see that you are here but I don't I don't see the video but can you say something so the doc one second so councel Rosario I see that you're trying to speak at least I think you are but we can't hear anything um can you check and see if if um yeah if he can do anything oh never mind you stay here stay here yeah yeah thank you so the issue that we're having here so you may be Wonder is that counselor Del Rosario is on Zoom the questions what T oh I do see him now that's that's a good start okay hi I can see you now counselor that's a good start um I do think we need the challenge we're going to face here is on on the votes counselor we're going to need to hear something for the record um and I'm told that the problem might be with the the technology on your side and not here so um but we'll start go ahead Mr McCarthy all good evening Council uh again Dan McCarthy uh Lawrence planning director I'm here on a project uh that the city's been working on for several years uh it's actually something that's been that we've been trying to improve for over 15 years and this is the freight rail line that that serves the industrial park uh you might remember last um summer uh we were we were able to construct the um the old pum spur that runs from Broadway to um Beacon Street so that was reconstructed as part of what's called an IRP Grant which is for an industrial rail um Access program and we we the city received a second IRP which is actually not sub to the conversation tonight um the the the state and the federal government do another project which called chapter 130 chapter 130 is to improve intersection grade in grade Crossings in public roadways that have been identified as dangerous and one of those is the intersection of Beacon Street and Glenn Street and it's not dangerous so much for the traffic or amount of traffic of volume it's dangerous because the curently the the the rail line runs right down the middle of the street so when the when the when deliveries are made to the industrial park the the the train runs inside a public Street Glen Street for approximately a th000 uh linear feet so part of this the the grant project and and it's a several million dollar project which is going to be totally funded by the state is going to be constructing a um constructing Glenn Street um if you're familiar with Glenn Street right now it's almost 42 ft wide which is exceptionally large for a public road especially one that's inside an industrial park has very little traffic most streets about are 22 to 2 24 ft so what they're going to do is they're going to shorten the street from 42 feet to 24t and you have the maps in front of you so what you do have is the first one is actually a before and after the the one on on the right hand side with a red line is the existing conditions and the one on the left hand side with a green line is the proposed conditions as you can see the street will be narrowed the train will be completely moved off of the street for the length of Glenn Street it will cross Beacon Street in a portion of Glenn going then it's going to go up on a a public right away which is going to be elevated and the Train's going to run separately outside of the public way so this is is good for the city in many ways one we won't damage our plows hidden The Rail lines in the winter also it'll make us a Safer travel um for the traffic and there'll be improvements in on the crosswalks we're also shortening the the length of travel between um at the intersection of Beacon and Glenn right now there's a crosswalk that that that's about 80 ft long so pedestrians are walking 80 ft inside a street a public street so that's going to be shortened almost 50% uh so the C so that'll be safer for children and for our pedestrians in that neighborhood and again this is completely pay for by the state but the city but the state can't move forward to the city adopts the alteration plans so so these are layout and alteration plans on some of the plans that I've done in the past where we're tra we're altering the public way those need to be recorded at the registry of deeds that's not the case with this one because we're actually keeping the public w the same we're just changing the paved Street the travel length is going to become smaller public way is going to remain the same and it's not going to come back out of our our public roads and affect our chapter 90 money so it'll still be a public road but all um Street design and Street construction and parking and everything else associated with the public ways is the is a Providence of the city council so it's up to you to adopt these plans and approve them um I do have some letters these have been reviewed by the Department of Public Works um the water department the fire department they've all been uh involved in these construction projects we've also been working with the city council for that District uh she's been very involved this um so it's to to us it's a we think it's a great benefit um it increases safety and as I mentioned there's a letter from the fire department indicating that um um the alterations to the street will not affect fire safety in any manner and there is another letter from our water commissioner indicating that um the changes and the infrastructure be relatively minor and nothing that should affect the quality of our uh utilities on that street so that's uh essentially where we are with this um I know council delazar is at home the plans I provided to everybody here were also part of your package so you should have copies of those and letters um I sent were uh emailed early this morning uh early this afternoon uh I just received these letters today so I apologize for the lateness right so any questions Council any I I'm I I voted on this project several years ago now so I am I'm a little more familiar than most uh so I I really don't have any questions but do any other councils have questions or or wish to provide a motion um I don't have any questions was very clear uh thank you so do you do we need order of public hearing for this at the at the full Council level it does not require public hearing just a vot of the city council and this is just to adopt we're not we're not we're not ending this is a public way we're not we're not altering the street Scapes it's just going to be altering the design of the street design simply the design okay Mak sense all right so I'm looking for a motion and we send up to the full council with a fable recommendation some second motion made by Vice chair re seconded by councilor Santiago discussion see no discussion we're going to roll the dice and see if we can hear Council Del Rosario roll call vote please Del Rosario councelor Del Rosario we're g Tove this is going to be hard we're gonna continue with the Roll Call councelor fidelina Santiago yes councelor Selena Rees yes chairman Maran yes motion carries and we uh We've now lost Council Del Rosario um if he's listening for whatever reason I guess what I what I would the challenge that we're facing is that by the the Secretary of State's office when we have meetings like this we are required to have um if if a counselor is on Zoom we required to have a roll call vote for all of our of our roll calls and the idea so that someone is on the record um the challenge is if we can can't hear him it's hard to get on the record right um I don't there are other so if he is listening I the challenge that I'm having is that he represents people and the people that he represent should have a voice so um even if he were to go on the screen and give us a thumbs up or a thumbs down want a roll call and it was the screen shows it and that's what that meant at the very least we could show documentation if we were ever challenged on a vote that said yes the counselor was aware and he voted up or down based on a summit and we were dealing with the technology problems they were facing so I'm not sure he's not here right now I'm not sure if he's listening or hearing but if he's able to come back on uh that would be what I would recommend uh to him so uh I voted yes so the motion is send up to full council with a favorable recommendation we all thank you thank you all right that's it Mr McCarthy usually you come here you have like four different things Li you all set Lily we're good all right thank you all right uh also here this evening is the police department in our package you've got a bunch of reports so let's get the police out of out here we like when they're here but we like them better when they're doing other things good evening Sergeant good evening sir good evening ladies we're glad you're back appreciate that so we have the the the packet of documents I what was the one that you submitted today we submitted a couple today did they have do you recall what they were they sure are they in our packets yeah okay they are okay so what we're going to do Sergeant is um we're going to go in order I haven't looked at your packet yet it's going to be important I think I saw what happened at the full Council level so I think it's important that that if you give a recommendation you provide the recommendation as to why maybe it's inherent yes or no why you support it if you support it it's probably less of a basis but if you're if there's if your opinion is H to oppose it then we probably need to know why because if a counselor says well why the police and then I'm just sitting here saying I don't know mean I do know whatever you WR wrote down is what I'm able to say but so let's start with and we'll go work through it first document is document um 0325 councilors if you could help me find that on our sheet hold on where's my 0325 it was in the January 7th U part of our it's the first one if you in the tab okay uh go ahead Sergeant P you takas uh ordinance DOC number 0325 police are submit a favorable recommendation for a handicap spot on 17 Butler Street okay um questions see none look for a motion to send the subs of Po council with a favorable recommendation motion made by Vice Chair seconded by councelor Santiago since Council Del Rosario I don't see him on Zoom we do not need to have a roll call vote so I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it next document is uh document number four 25 and this is um I should probably read what it says 425 is handicap parking at 111a Chestnut Street I should have said this the previous one was for 17 Butler Street just so we're I didn't say that this one is for 111a Chestnut Street Sergeant what's your recommendation uh we have a favorable recommendation for the handicap pocket submitted by detective J hegy very good looking for a motion the send this up to the full Council fa recommendation is there a motion so motion made by councelor Santiago seconded by Vice chair Reyes discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all in favor say iose no no the eyes have it thank you clerk thank you that was made by Council Santiago next one is number 625 which is handicap parking at 30 well Street go ahead op Sergeant uh we again a favorable recommendation submitted by myself 30 well Street for a handicap pocket um I got a question as you're going through this just so I'm familiar with your protocols what are you looking for on the handicap parking what are the things you're looking so we're looking for how much curb space there is uh between uh in front of the house how much can it actually it has to be like I think 40t or so 30 ft to be acceptable so people can get in and out of the driveways uh again we look at driveways if there's enough driveway space for them to park off the street then that's a challenge to put the handicap spot right in front of the house if they do have access to like parking on the side of on in their own driveway and uh pretty much that's what we look for when on the when there's a driveway if they have a driveway are you does that does that factor at all besides the fact is there a space if you believe that they can actually Park their car on their driveway does that make a difference we would prefer them to parking we would have an unfavorable recommendation in that particular case that they could park in the driveway okay we've had a couple there was one on beacon beacon half the lady had ample pocket in in her driveway and she was already parked there do you look at the handicap parking plaer to see that if it's see that if it's current that we can start doing it I know it's attached to the it's attached to the stuff right I know Jean Jean scan scan does the first phase of them yeah he's done them before so so my question I just want to know exactly what you're looking at because if you're not looking at I think we would want to know as a I mean I would want to know I can't speak on my colleagues but I would want to know if there's somebody there with a handicap parking placard who's requesting it if they don't have a handicapped parking placard why are we putting a handicapped parking spot there we want to provide some assistance to somebody who needs it so I I would think would we even receive it if there was no handicap pler yes you don't need a handicap pler to put it on the agenda I mean you could put it on the agenda I think the I think the clerk's office and she was just here I think when they assembled the package I think one of the things that they asked for cuz we see it in our package we do see it so we see that there's a um yes we see it in I to the first one we get sorry I'm sorry we see the attachment in the first package so there you go so you so you do get it yeah all right so I would just ask if you wouldn't mind belts and suspenders we should be looking at it but if you can't as well that helps us out sure okay so that was a recommendation to approve I'm looking for a motion to order our public hearing second motion made by Council Santiago Oh seconded by Vice chair Reus discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have it next one is for 0625 and that is for 2 248 Salem Street so 0525 0525 correct I again another Fable recommendation submitted by detective J hey look for motion to send this up to the full council with a favorable recommendation so much motion made by Council Santiago seconded by Vice chair Reyes discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I post order of public hearing all of them so far handicap Park all requir them if we forget to mention that in the motion remind us because it should be part of the motion and motion been made properly second and everybody's voted I they send up to the full Council I great and next one is 30 well Street uh handicap parking you did that one already I did thank you I was start off back 725 725 uh mean that is for 143 Park go ahead so I got one is it 173 or 143 one I'm 143 did I say 17 14 I have 173 interesting I'm just reading off the agenda it's 143 in the agenda let's take a look okay so he must have mismarked it hold on let me just make sure me look at the I'll have to make sure we corrected [Applause] Zer uh the pack the the pack it says 143 okay we did do 143 he just marked it as 173 so let the record reflect if we can make a notation on the police report better yet we're going to make a notation if you could we can do this next week if you want we don't need to do this okay what what did you favorable on this uh it's a two-prong answer okay it's go what do you got not favorable right in front of the street 173 pocket there's not enough curb space okay but there is it is favorable on the corner of Abbott and Par to park on Abbott Street they have a side door to the house and it would be a lot better to have the no pocket on the handicap pocket onage okay so this is going to be a different motion we're looking for a motion to send this up to the full council with a favorable recommendation with the recommendations provided in the police department report which will be edited to have the right address and to order a public hearing that's going to be the recommended motion so motion made by councelor Santiago second Vice chair Reyes discussion I would just ask we made the notation on it if we can make a clean copy just send that clean copy with the right address on this sheet sure and then we could take this out and resubmit the proper one it was just a Scribbler scrier error I'll do it tomorrow super we have we have a little little time but that's fine okay all in favor say I pose no the eyes have it next is document um okay let me see 0825 is no parking anytime on Brookfield street we have a favorable recommendation for the no parket anytime on Brookfield between Kenneth and Lennox Street okay and I just want to say I see on here where you somebody I think it was Council delario who asked I think it was who asked if you would put the name of the sponsors on it and you've been doing that on these was the council Vice chair Vice chair R said that thank you Vice chair so my question on that is yeah if there's a council's name and the resident's name do you want both of them or just the council's name No it should be whoever it is that's sponsoring it it would put both names okay okay that all right um looking for a motion to send the sub to the full council with a fa recommendation over a public hearing motion made by councelor Del uh counselor Santiago second by Vice chair Reyes discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oose no you guys have it next is document we skipped one 10:25 yes sir okay 9:25 we skip we'll go back to that later 10:25 is is uh Utah Street resident parking uh please have an unfavorable recommendation make resident p on Utah Street the reasons why is Utah is a Long oneway Street located several blocks many businesses or schools appears to be already set up like the other streets in that area to accommodate parking for residents and their guest I I don't see any businesses or any way people could really just go to Utah Park unless they're visiting or live there you're the at large count so I've got no skin in this game so looking for a motion is not what is the recommendation unfavorable unfavorable oh why you take that decis because there's most of the time like we started a residential parking with Garden Street because of the problem with something was on Union Street and they were all Park on G Street over here there's no businesses that would obstruct the parking for the residents there's no schools in the area that like the teachers would have to park there there's no reason for anybody to park on Utah Street unless you actually visting somebody all living there okay make a motion to withdraw or what do you want to do uh can we do motion to table and then I can look at it with the person request is yeah okay uh we can do motion to table to look at it again uh to see what is thetion we cons when they request the kind of okay sure second motion table has been properly made by Vice chair Rees and second by councilor Santiago I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have 1025 is tabled next document is 1824 we have to go back on this one it's on page five of your agendas counselors this is for one way on Orchard Street and as a reminder I think we sent this to we sent it to the police department T typically we send these things to the also to the DPW do we not for one ways yeah you're here so what's your recommendation uh we have an unfavorable recommendation uh the street is 34 ft wide with pocket on both Sid of streets which at least 24 ft for two-way traffic to pass we attached a photo and you can see on it a nice enough people to have two cars double paret at the same time and there's plenty it seems to be plenty of room on that street for for two way pass pass no need for a oneway okay uh so let's just talk about this so typically we would wait for a um recommendation for the police and the DPW in this particular case we I don't think we have can we tell if we've gotten something from DPW something for DPW they don't recommend they didn't recommend it either so we got two and also the engineer too the engineer okay so we we got the whole thing so you want to make a motion on this yes all right what's your motion a motion M the vice chair made a motion to withdraw this document is there a second second seconded discussion I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppos no the eyes have it 1824 you was my it yeah I know I saw that all right next document is document number 30524 I'm looking this one's on page four I believe on the bottom of a page four of your agenda uh this is Lynch Street uh traffic study request to modify parking and make a oneway street what's the police recommendation we will relish our decision until the city engineer and DPW will conduct their studies and format their decision okay so you're go ahead I think that's it we're wait have we received something from DPW on this how would we know if we got something from DPW would how would we know it' be in our packet yeah will be included in your packet and Teresa will give me copies of it all the documents as well and so I just need to go into here yeah and it should be in here if there is one excellent okay all right so we're going to make a motion to table what do you want to do on this motion to table second motion to table by Vice chair re second by Council Santiago all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it it's a good idea we're gonna yeah a motion to send the to remind to remind the city engine they we're looking for a response on 30524 is that made by Council Vice chair Reyes is0 second second second for any further discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it uh let's see it's tabled and letter to letter to next one is document number 383 24 on the same page that's for No Parking On Canton Street W so for that well let's let's see are you going to be disappointed or happy what's the recommendation from the police department so we have two recommendations for that okay the the lower half of campon Street between High Prospect was a favorable recommendation for no parking on the right hand side when we were there it was uh alternate pocket and everybody was on the left side already and it looked fantastic there was plenty of room for people to get down that's the way the street should be and as for the Top Pot from Kendall to high it's an unfavorable recommendation with a no pocket on the right hand side uh all the houses are on the right hand side and all the driveways are on the left hand side there's a bunch of driveways on the left hand side so I don't see a reasonably be uh one way in that ption of I mean no POS on the right hand side of that understood what's your recommendation counselor for for based on the police department's recommendation they said half of it is they were the Top Pot is the top pot's real small it's three houses up there three to four houses yeah and it would be you would be uh hindering the uh residence there if you put no ping on the right hand side there's no houses just driveway so so the the police department I don't want to put words in your mouth this is your item the police department is looking to would recommend to us that we have a um that we that we change this to have just a oneway um is it no parking on uh between on canas Street between High Street and Prospect Street uh for no parking on the right hand side of Canon Street that would be the police department's recommendation to us and leave the rest of it alone that's the recommendation any questions I like I like that way that works okay so um so the motion then as I understand all articulated the motion here is to send this up to the full council with a fable recommendation to I'll read it for Canton Street between High Street and Prospect Street and with no parking on the right hand side of Canton Street that's the that's the entire motion is that the motion yes motion motions have been properly made is there a second second by Vice chair Rees any further discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I oppe no the eyes have it okay next document is 553 24 that's on page I don't know where it is 553 thank you 55324 is a four-way stops sign intersection of jese in Madison Street okay the uh the police department has an unfavorable recommendation for a oneway from Beacon Street to on Beacon app from Beacon Street to andol Street the width of Beacon AB is 30 ft uh with a pocket signage on the south side of no pocket signage uh regr rest the city engineer and DPW and the uh I don't know if that's part of the beacon projects or not that property uh Beacon a I think that's ours right Beacon a is that our district is that our is that out is it part of the housing I don't know probably is so they would have to get inv that as well the the Housing Authority needs to get involved in that yeah anything we do on housing on those streets had they have to have their input on it do we have anything from the city engineer on 55324 we don't have anything from plus there's a lot there's several businesses there large industrial businesses that use that street with big trucks so that you would be forced them to all go out one win all right so the recommendation then would be to to send correspondence this is unique to the Lawrence Housing Authority officials asking for their recommendation on this proposal and a reminder for DPW to submit I think we've sent one to them um an engineer report for their recommendation and then we would table it afterwards that would be my recommended motion motion made by Council Vice chair Rea seconded by Council Santiago did you get that Maria okay I'll call the question all in favor say I I pose no the eyes have it next one is document number 554 24 that is four-way stops sign the intersection of genice did you see this one already genesy Street in Madison did I just say that yes sir I just said that didn't I but I meant to say it was Beacon a from Beacon Street to an street that was the one we just did that's the one we just did we are on Gene but the one we're doing is genesy street right so this is genesy Street 55424 go ahead sir uh unfavorable recommendation there's no as an accent there in years we don't there's no citations written over there it's a very two small streets we don't see the need for so let me ask you a question as I did with the house with the handicap parking when you look at a stop sign situation what are you looking what are you basing your recommendations on well the amount of traffic the amount of accidents the location of the street uh the speed people might be traveling uh I guess those will be the top three or four accidents speed citations citations um and location location and you also talking about the number of vehicles as well does that make a difference what do you mean by number of vehicles is it heavily pop heavily yeah this is very lightly populated okay it's a side street off of Mount ver Street okay okay so there's a recommendation to to not I'm looking for I'm looking for motion to withdraw motion made by Council Santiago to withdraw is there a second second seconded by Vice chair Ray's discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all in favor say I I pose no the eyes have it document 560 24 that's no parking at 37 shatak Street between 8 and 5:00 p.m. we have a favorable recommendation for this uh the building is for the Mass Department of Environmental Protection officers and uh they have fence and in front there and it seems logical this document is number 56024 favor recommendation it's a favorable looking for motion to send the sub to full councel with a favorable recommendation is there a motion motion made by Council and Old Republic he um Vice chair Rees made the motion seconded by Council Santiago discussion C none I'll call the question all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have it next is document 572 24 that I don't see that one oh I cannot see in the agenda too but what say [Music] yours that's yours um we're not seeing this on the agenda Sergeant okay um I don't unless it was misnumbered let me see here let me look at the 570s real fast this is lenx Street we don't know it should be fairly new right at 572 December or November it would be in December yes sir came across that one that was not the agenda okay okay and I called her up but I I believe she said I was with okay I wasn't but then I thought it was related to 584 that boarded on but it's not okay so there is no there's nothing we can do about this there is no number on our agenda so we can't even I mean there's nothing for us to discuss so we're just going to move along Maria if you if you can help with Teresa explain to her if you can just drill down have her drill down I know we're happened to it it'd be great appreciate that uh 573 24 is a stop sign at High Street and hon Avenue so Sergeant pis we have a favorable recommendation uh again I don't know how DPW would work it or the city does it's a it's a T intersection where you're coming up hon and we would think that the stop sign should be placed on the Southeast saltwest corner of high on I don't know if the city's put stop signs on a intersection or not who's who's got the institutional memory here oh you want to speak first go ahead the main idea to put in this item the Stu sign there because there are many accident there and you was telling us you ER looking for to put it the stop sign is accident location there not there wasn't I can look for the exact number but we have very few accidents that have been reported high and high on yeah the never report me maybe they don't call the police or I don't know if I were remember correctly I looked up that myself and there was maybe two accidents in there over the past 3 4 years that day that I put in the item there was two accident okay so that not that this is going to impact this but I think I think what the counselor is based on this it's important I think for our residents the people that we represent to call in an accident if there is an accident there I know that people don't want to because of insurance issues and that I I'm presuming um typically we would write an accident report with the closest intersection unless they're marking as so that's around the 450s High Street unless they're marking it as 444 High Street or instead of marking as the intersection which is typically on uh we would typically mark it at the intersection if it's close you know what I mean yeah you do uh playable recommendation yeah for just for the stop sign on highw there's no stop there's no stop sign on high law there should be one I think there should be one on any Street coming out to coming out to another Street yeah so this is favorable your point but the question I've got is this do we actually ask DPW for a stop sign four-way stop I that's where I was institutional memory do we typically do that we do typically ask for police I mean for DPW on a four-way stop it would be a three-way but we're not recommending the three just meing the stop sign on unless he wrote it up wrong was it for a four-way stop sign sorry yeah okay it's a T intersection right so it'll be three-way we don't recommend the stop sign on High Street the amount of speed someone could get from Ferry or east table wouldn't be that High when they when they reach that so so the question so the qu before we I know I know we all want to support our colie here because we like her but the question is do we do we wait for DPW to come up with a recommendation as we typically do now now that we have the police department's report and what I'm hearing is that we typically would wait for a DPW now we got one we got now get the second one and if they say yes then we should s up with a recommendation we don't have the DPW is that right no DPW uh normally for when we send the item we can sending for for the pend the item we can send it through through DPW and also to the engineer and something like that so we can see yeah what I seen send to the DP City okay which okay that's the way we do it way we continue to do it my my only concern is sometimes we get to the full Council we we see that but then we just override it like ah never mind we'll just vote for it yes um and that's a concern that I have what yeah so guess what you so there a couple of options counselors is your item you can table here and wait for the DPW to come up with their recommendation or is what we're talking about here we can send it up to the full council with a favorable recommendation pending a condition the condition is that we get something from the DPW or the city engineer with their recommendation if their recommendation says yes I'm going to presume all the councils are probably going to be in favor if their recommendation is no it's probably going to be tougher to get the thing to pass but so it's how do you want to deal with you want to deal with it here or the full Council I would like to the motion for full Council okay anding the there's a motion there's a motion to send this document up to the full council with a favorable recommendation pending uh receip of a correspondent report from either DPW the city engineer properly made by S Santiago seconded by Vice chair Reyes any further discussion see n I'll call the question all in favor say I I POS no the eyes have it um okay next one is document 57 nope 587 24 5 and that's a stop sign at Jefferson Street and on Fon Street it's a favorable recommendation again I I don't know uh to put the stop sign on je Jefferson Street I'm in favor of all these any Street coming out to a main street that have a stop sign in it's up to how the city I mean the cost is expensed I don't know how they hand right again to remind Council we this is another one where we wait for the DPW on this one right this is typ I just I don't want to change we've been doing this for years and it's working I don't want to change things so we've been doing I want to be consistent so I'm looking for a motion that we send this up to the full council with a fav recommendation recommendation to order public hearing pending a report from a report from DPW or the city engineer so no motion made by Vice chair re second by Council Santiago discussion see I'm going to call the question all in favor say I post no the have it can I address the chair sir yes uh in that type of situation should I contact DPW or is it up to me or it really is not up to you to do it however if you wanted to make a phone call no none of us are going to be like why would you we would be it would help us so if you if you don't do it no foul but if you do it that's great yeah I can do that I'll just okay thinking out yep nope all right uh the next is for document number 5 8824 handicap parking at 359 Lawrence Street that's a favorable recommendation looking for a motion to send this up the full council with a favorable recommendation order of public hearing is there a motion motion made by Council Vice chair Rey seconded by Council Santiago discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I oppe no the eyes have it 58924 this is for handicap parking at 71 Farley Street that's a favorable recommendation the guy was very happy with the uh the uh how quick we were there wow making people happy I love it that's awesome I'm looking for a motion to send this up to the full council with a fa of recommendation order public hearings so motion made by Vice chair r by Council Santiago discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all in favor say I IE no yes have it and this last document is this is the last one several Pages this is document we're going to pull this one uh we had a conversation with before you start okay this is document 5924 no parking any time Water Street house have that one I'm all you're all out yeah I've got something from Canó maybe that's the reason all right we're going to deal with it 5924 no parking in Water Street Southside from a street to D Street let's read this quickly I want to get to the gist okay uh it's a fa recommendation from Canó and the police department [Music] um and in the police department report this is for um no parking this is no parking anytime on either side and he list in the in this recommendation where the where the um signs should be located on the south and east side of Water Street and the north and west side of Water Street and I'm not going to read the whole thing here but it lists with detail where the sign should be so looking for a motion to send this up to the full council with a favor recommendation to order a public hearing one more motion made by councelor Council Vice chair re seconded by councelor Santiago discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all in favor say I oppose no the eyes have it are you tapped out out I have one just about the child child Center child care I am here waiting for you guys and here go so where's this one where is this one got it got it got it go ahead you got you got Vice chair's attention now so we we were we were told by uh one person that was an ordinance and another person that there was an ordinance for child care so help us out what's the deal so right now we were going to have an un favor recommendation cuz there was no city ordinance but in be after we wrote this up we found the city ordinance and it's brand new is pass yes we fin it's brand new so we will be tending to these matters uh shortly um did you say it again we will be uh processing these requests okay because we there is a there is an ordinance they provide uh they own licensing for you know uh they have licensing through the state okay to do a small business in home so to Runing the business so I appreciate you can no we will take care the the problem is that we might run into is there's 440 Child carees in the City yeah don't no don't worry because they follow the criteria you know when you go and visiting the small business and you identify they don't need it uh you can vote on favor but you need to go there and see because when we thinking about a highest street is very congesting a street if we need to care about our children oh sure because when we pick up and drop up we need to maintain our children saf sure okay all right so um so there I'm not going to read all these documents out there is just as a reminder um counselors that we received over the last within the last year a bunch of documents that deal specifically with the brand new ordinance that deals with the the the child care facilities and having uh time set aside in front of the facilities for there to be no parking at at certain times I'm I'm guessing it's drop off and pick up times whatever that I'm not sure what those times are but those are the times right so there's a whole there's I don't know but don't worry we have less than 20 item if so so easy and somebody can send me the ordinance we asked we requested for it and we never got it yeah I also I can working on that and to do somebody send the vice chair is very very involved and she will I'm pretty confident we'll send that to you am I right I'm pretty sure she will yeah all right so he you have a question here go right ahead wonder about an it I don't see in the agenda but phone if he he can check we can have any update about this item what what's the number yes 32524 3252 24 and what does that pertain to that 15 minute parking oh on Prospect stre yes yeah we we were here I think last week they said that was completed but I went by the other day and there was no signs up there yeah I believe last two weeks ago we said that that was already taken care of but when I went by the other day there was no signs B yeah I don't have the I don't have a we do so many of these I don't honestly don't I don't remember all of the nuances behind them um it's not on here so we have a lot we can't really go ahead item and we withraw a lot of item we can double check that one it could have been so Council Santiago I can you double check what we sent up at the last time it might have been with the it might have been with with the last series of ones that we had can can can you double check on that one so just go double check um see what's on our agenda from the last uh full council meeting and see if that number is on there and that shouldn't be too difficult to do and then that might help answer the question and I would look at the last ordinance committee it wasn't in the ordinance was in the agenda for the last ordinance committee yes okay so the only thing I can think of unless there's a pixie out there moving things around that we dealt with it and it was sent up with some sort of recommendation which I'm not sure what it is and then so look at look at the full councel agenda maybe either contact the clerk I was check it because it was a favorable recommendation it was it was okay but it got tabled or not moved because somebody said it was done already that that if I'm remembering correctly then it had already been processed and taken care concept they say was favorite but I didn't see any sign there and that's why I want but first of all it takes 30 days if we pass it it takes okay to to for for an ordinance to to be plus epw they don't they don't turn it around that fast you got to give them some time even though we put emergency Clauses they still got to print the signs they got to do stuff so even so I would double check let me know and I can whatever you need from me I can take yes I will okay okay okay all right any all right we got to go back to the top of the page because we have a few items that we didn't do um um these these this will go fast document 1725 handicap parking at 327 Prospect Street looking for a motion that we send this to the full Council I'm sorry looking looking to send this to the police department for their review so motion made by Council Ago seconded by Vice chair what's I I don't know yet this won't take long I'm going to these four this is Happ fast a motion made properly second on favor say I I H know the eyes have it so that's going to Police Department uh next one is 1825 handicap parking 140 Jackson Street looking to send this to the police department for their recommendation motion made by Council Santiago seconded by Vice chair Reus discussion see none I'll call the question all in favor say I I the eyes have it next is handicap parking at one uh 1925 parking at handicap parking at one Lindon Street looking to send this to the uh police department for their recommendation for their reviews there a motion second motion made by Council Santiago seconded by Vice chair R discussion see no discussion I'll call the question all in favor say I I Poe no the eyes have it uh here's one uh 2025 remove handicap parking at 67 farum Street let's take a look at that one if we have the document ation there I know my name's on it but if we have the documentation there the it 2025 [Applause] okay this is weird we do not have um any backup on this Sergeant uh we do have a name of the individual and a phone number as part of the packet what we would typically do on on a removal of a handicap parking it's the same process is adding handicap so you got to go reverse so sometimes if we see something from a resident that shows that has a letter saying that that they don't need the handicap parking anymore or there's they're living there and there's nobody there that requires it we sometimes will take it that at face value and go ahead and do it in this particular case we don't have much information um so we would add this we would ask for in this case for the police department to double check there is a NE the individual's name who who can be reached is on this packet do you I'm going to give if you don't have it I'll give this whole packet to you so I'm looking for a motion that we send this document for the police department for their review second motion made by Council Vice chair re second by councelor Santiago all all in favor say IE no you guys have it thank you counselors all right um Police Department we I had one document that we went over that's marac Street um 9:25 so just that that's out there so we probably need to um probably to look at we have to go that's going to be a little leg work on that one that's going to be some leg work for sure and it's probably going to take a meeting yeah with you and the n city engineer pleasance and DPW for that what I would recommend is this let's see if we can get together just you and me beforehand take a look at the place uh and that prep for meeting with the residents and the business owners that's right off the Panos right that's that section right there yeah right by um U Eli and marac on the tavern that that's that section right there yeah so I think that's it is there anything else for the police officers uh Sergeant while he's here I don't think so I'm an afternoon person so I don't come in until around 11: or 12 so oh that's perfect for me afternoon is better for me so anytime after 4 we work for you Bingo all right good yes' um was that document 32524 ask2 Supermarket yes uh that was sent to the full council with favorable recommendation to order public hearing yes okay there you go so we ordered a public hearing so now we're g we might have it on the agenda for a public hear who knows how quick it is we could potentially have a public Hearing in next week yeah we having the um going to the agenda so we I haven't seen the agenda yet so I'm not sure if it's on there so it so that so you're all set I don't think we feel better good all right all right I think that's it councilors thank you very much Sergeant I think we're all set with you any questions if yeah if you guys need me to do something different like as you know this is all uh if you need me to do anything different just send me an email uh my voicemail doesn't work all the time unfortunately but just send me an email you know just let me know if anything I can do to you know I mean appreciate that make it easier thank you Sergeant all right thank you so much appreciate it thank you for your time tonight thank you all right than you too Council any other items on the agenda you wish to take out of order if let me check somebody sent me they're missing about one oh yeah I got a text message from somebody too hold on it's a good idea let me check 469 23 469 469 469 is it on the agenda counselor I'm looking I don't see it yet any not in the agenda I'm not seeing the councel A8 a we can't do anything with it anyway because it's not on the agenda okay okay any that's a good catch anything else we're good all right seeing if there's no other business before us this evening I'm looking for a motion to adjourn motion made and properly seconded um all in favor say I I oppose no the eyes have it thank you counselors thank you for we good ma i' like to thank the city council you president appreciate the time you gave me e