e 2022 this meeting of the budget and finance committee is being conducted both in person and via remote participation a reminder that persons who would like to listen or view this meeting while in progress May either attend here in the city council chamber
or use our uh YouTube page uh for access at this point can you please join me in the pledge counselors we we have no minutes to approve so we're going straight into new business the first item on our agenda is item
39-24 authorization to expend $35,000 um 30 359 39 we have 355 on the agenda we have 35 $335,000 from the 2025 Department of
fire services safety equipment Grant today we have uh the fire chief Mariotti to talk a little bit more about this grant yes councils good evening uh thank you this an easy one for you we get this DFS safety and Equipment Grant every year it was a little delayed this year
because the governor was trying to get everybody in this Commonwealth to go along with her uh housing plan near the train station so she held it up for a few other towns ours was not one of them that was out of compliance we within compliance we finally got it it's 35
$5,000 there's no match and we're using it to buy turnout gear we're going with the pfast free gear from now on but we try to buy gear every year is one it wears out two it uh has a life expectancy so uh and it's all custom
made for each P size for each person so as we progress in time we end up getting new gear so this will go towards New Gear this year no match M chair I would like to make a motion to send it item to the full council with a fa recommendation motion
has been made is there a second second probably second or discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it thank you very much uh on the council meeting just heads up I'll I have a previous engagement I've committed to speak to emergency managers and seret teams in
Malboro on the council day so I'll send a deputy if you have questions just a heads up no problem thank you Chief thank you next item on our agenda is item 40-25 appro appropriation transfer in the amount of
$100,000 from the airport account to the new project account for mandated safety easements and this was brought to us by our Airport Manager Francisco Urena Ura you have the floor good evening councilors council
president it is oh have to table okay um so what we're going to do is we're going to we're going to take this out of committee okay next week as old business so that I don't lose Quorum sure no no I understand thank you thank you we have one of our members is sick
today so all right so we'll go and the next one as well okay well all right thank you I'll see you all next week thank you that was was F all right this meeting is going aot FAS all right so we're going to item 42
25 authorization to expend in the amount of 125,1 from the housing Choice Grant of eoh LC planning grant for riendo gate Gateway 2.0 actually
counselors um this was brought to us by our planning director Dan McCarthy and he actually sent an email to myself um and the council president and our city clerk earlier today asking for this item to be tabled until the next budget and finance meeting so can I have a motion
to table item 42-25 Mo has been made properly seconded all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it same thing for the next one item 23-25 authorization to expend 13 I mean
43-25 authorization to expend in the amount of 130,000 for the housing Choice GR Grant from the office of Health I mean eoh hlc planning grant for mover Transportation centerm Mary Max Street
coordinator can I have a motion to to table to table motion has been made proberbly seconded no discussion on tabled matters all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it and now we have item 44-25 opioid settlement funds update
Modelo application development this was brought to by our council president Rodriguez the council president you have the floor yes through you m do we have anybody from the Department to give us an update on these was that I'm sorry um I'm sorry
I'm here for part of that lot boxing J oh okay oh that's that's for a t table item that we have I'll I'll give us like two minutes no worries so chair that we have anybody from the
uh uh from that specific Department that is managing the opio fonts that here today to give us an update so so can you talk about that or no do you have do you have any speci
for the for the um the table matter oh no I mean if you're not ready we're not we're not going to put you in the spot I mean no no okay don't put I mean you are aware of these for
sure because I mean I know I know for a fact that that you were involved in the conversation but if you're not ready so I would like to make a motion to send correspondents to this department so they can give us an update on this opio
settlement specify the the department the chair of the department I mean U the director of the department is a well depel so I would like to make a motion to invite the department to give us an update on the op Shan
including that an update on that uh on these funds and therefore uh more more specifically uh the Modelo application development um uh which is uh a pregnancy
tracker um and we would like to know more about that specific uh situation motion has been made properly seconded discussion seeing none all
those in favor say I I I the eyes have it Maria do you have that okay can I get a motion to table item 44-25 motion has been made probably seconded all those in favor say I I and
the eyes have it all right so can I have a motion to the motion was extend to invite them for the next city uh for the next meeting budget budget and finance meeting can I have a motion to untable item 22 B-25 appropriation transfer in
the the amount of 300,000 from various accounts to the Child Care Circuit um motion has been made is there a second second probably seconded all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it so we have a representative here from Lon
boxing and I know I also received an email I think it was earlier today I don't know if it was earlier today or yesterday from Sue Miss F our our Financial Manager asking for this to be I think was it with UNT not this item which item
was item 76 oh I'm sorry was that the one no that's the one that I meant to untable oh okay was it this one no it wasn't no so we untable the
wrong one no no we unted the right one okay no no no 22 cuz that's this this item was the one that we received um uh 22 B-25 this huh right so we have lots boxing here y
yep we have lots on boxing here tonight I know counselor lone wanted to hear from the um Samana but we also don't have a representative here nor in Council Lon is sick um
so if you like yes please so last meeting we we asked whether or not the department received correspond corresponding from um Samana the I forget who it was that was here speaking on this item but the
individual that was here I'm sorry no no no no from from the Department um me no you weren't you were here yes she was oh man okay that's that's how it's been a while so that's okay so what
I recall is that we were told no one heard from the Samana you did not have like a an official letter or anything from them but you did have something from ltown boxing has anything happened since our last meeting it has as a
matter of fact um the very next day um the director of saman Hispana showed up at my office um and apparently she never got my emails even though I sent them to the correct email address and she changed her
telephone number so we were calling the number that was in the application which wasn't her telephone number anymore that's why she never got our voicemails but I believe Council L on called her um after the meeting so we are in the process of working to get her a
contract okay yeah she sent some stuff in and I had some questions I sent it back to her and she's working on getting me the information I need to write her a contract so she does want the funds she does yes okay so that brings us to the
total was what three let me go 170 um where's [Music] our do you have the amount so the the amount from the hispan was going to be 50,000 50,000 okay so we have
50,000 and then 80 all right and now that we have we do have the representative from lown box in here if you can come to the podium and just say your name and address for the record please sure you can use a lot the business address yeah my name is Edan
Kario um taking over lot on boxing gym rather soon um I know I was in invited here to kind of speak on behalf I was managing the gym but I wasn't a part I wasn't like the uh the president my dad was so I'm taking over my dad's position
um but I was told you guys have some questions so I'm here to answer if I could yes council president well thank you for being here actually uh sure we love to hear from you uh I know this is this is this type of funds doesn't come
along very frequently M and hearing that the lowtown boxing having a long history in Lawrence and having to hope and being able to help so many kids uh through the boxing uh sport uh hearing that you guys not
necessarily looking forward to get the funds is like you know I I want to hear it from you sure saying like you know I mean I was a boxer myself I know what it takes to be a successful bosser and what
it takes to be just somebody that like the sport so it's it's it's like I want to hear I mean why now um there was a I guess a misunderstanding on their part or maybe just a group thing that was misunderstood um that they weren't aware
that it had to be um what do you call it um reimbursements and um so the issue with the gym is they don't charge any kids so with that the bank account really just comes from donations so so a
lot of times there's been a a pause in donations we we get here and there we get donations but for the most part if equipment goes down we cover it as the coaches so if a treadmill breaks the coaches cover it if a bag breaks we cover it um so there's not funds to
really spend 80 grand and kind of get it reimbursed so kind of put us in a tight spot because it's like you know if the bank account I mean we we do our taxes every year we have a CPA that we use use there's not much in the bank um go ahead let me ask you a question
did you spend $5 what was it that did you have you ever spent $5 $5 yes I mean of course yeah and then you can re you can get reimbursed for that $5 it doesn't have to be 80,000 well that's a misperception probably so I guess the the second
question cuz we ended up getting approved for a grant recently and I guess it's like a second part of this grant itself um so we we got a proof of 40 grand um so I came here today to kind of want to introduce myself because I'm
going to do things a little differently um but also you know say that you know I don't think we can because we're getting to 40 Grand I want to kind of be fair and not be greedy either right um but I'm willing to you know if there's a way where we can work something out for a lesser
amount I think that'll be fair um but if I guess my biggest question would be in terms of reimbursement how long does that usually take [Laughter] thanks so generally on a reimbursement
basis if all of your paperwork is in order and you submit it to us we can usually turn a check around within a week or two okay but I'll have to say that I would really discourage a $5 reimbursement I know you were just using
that as an example we'd like something a little more substantial because a lot of staff time a lot of people handle that it's you know our office it's the purchasing it's the com trollers it's the treasur something a little bit more substantial and through you essentially what we're trying to say here is like I
know that the gy at some point were spending money when you guys started at the beginning remember we G we give you some cbgs back 16 around there 2009 yeah yeah also forun that I actually
because I went after we small piece little B Money uh but what I'm saying is you know I just don't want you guys to have the impression that you need to spend 880,000 for you to get reimbursed it could
be as minimum as whatever sure to up to that amount and you have an specific amount of time to spend ended what like a year two years or so the contract ends in June so
thise so the the arpa funds I mean but I mean I mean the arpa fund when they have the Restriction they expire on June but without the Restriction they're free cash so it's like expiration is
tentative so essentially it is it is a good opportunity I mean I'm just we just looking forward to see see because you could you could be creative around that okay it that necessarily doesn't have to
be you know a a a an $80,000 Bill $20,000 bill whatever I mean we understand but I mean we we didn't know that you guys get approve for another set of money but we just want to make sure like at least this type of service that you guys provide to to maintain the
way I'm doing things now um I've gotten some donations from other places I think we can play ball uh but I I'm going to be honest with you guys we're not going to spend the full 80 grand so I want to be kind of upfront and fair about that I don't want to you know hold up money
that can go to another program too um we could probably spend about half of that money definitely appreciate definitely happy to hear that because usually if it's not the first time I hear that know you don't need all of this you know what I mean because everybody have
the need and everybody want more and more and more hearing you the type of work you do I know that you know what's that you guys charge like a bottle of water or something for you to be there yeah pretty much we ask you to just bring some water yeah that's way it's been some water and you just be able to
practice that's that's tremendous 2009 yeah yeah it's crazy I mean it's not crazy you guys are doing it for sure but I mean it's interesting and we wanted to make sure that if it is because of us and we have some availability uh usually that doesn't
come around very often trust me it's like it's difficult and uh and you know it is important to just go step by step making sure that that those type of services stays because they're very valuable sure well when they were when
they were running it it was a little different um like I said we do have funds now um more than willing to make an attempt to um you know make an honest you know expenditure on it um if we can work something out for sure
coun councelor marel had had a question councelor Mar kind um so was it you or was it your father that applied for this grant it was my father my mom okay did they have an understanding as to what
the criterias were um you know once you were a recipient of this grant they were under the impression that it wasn't a reimbursement Grant oh okay and the reason why you ask was um just trying to gauge on whether you know if somehow I
don't want to use the word that if we dro the ball but if there was any way where maybe we needed to do better in helping you guys understand and giving you Clarity or educating folks that are applying for these grants as to how these grants function um so just hearing
that part um just makes sense and um Miss fank does uh this grant would it cover payroll or pay yeah it it could cover payroll many of the subrecipients have payroll line
items in their contract okay all right um the replacement of certain equipment like bags for example how much does that go uh go by or any mats or any gloves uh so that you Prov our our mats itself has
we got those donated from Lawrence High School when they moved to the new Lawrence High School so it's been since um when was that 08 09 I don't know I remember I don't really remember but we have their old wrestling mats um so kind of the goal was to you know start
raising some money to replace the floor the ring is original it's been in the gym since 2010 um you know the bags like I said we've been working on replacing them from time to time so we do have some new bags but we do have need of more and I want to expand the program I've been
talking to the Lawrence High football coach wrestling coach and other programs around the merac valley that we've been working hand inand with where we want to expand and sort of uh grow past just boxing we want to kind of make it like a place for Fitness so kids can come work out during the offseason um I think a
lot of times especially in Lawrence you know a lot of the kids once they're done playing football they're not working out so then the season comes up they're vastly out of shape or you know wrestlers don't you know they don't play another sport let's say and the same thing happens right they show up they
need to lose weight they're out of shape so we kind of want to expand it to the point where um we can bring in kids from Lawrence High School in nearby towns and just sort of keep it where it is box we're going to keep the boxing program going but we also want to add a fitness element to it to um you know to kind of
work with the city more um you know I have a I have a good friend of mine that's the wrestling coach uh you know um Christian gizman and then former football coach and Emilo col so I have good relationships with these guys so I want to kind of work with them as well essentially
um C Maro still has the floor so I'll just add one one last bit um considering what I'm hearing right now it seems like you want to add like a conditioning portion to this program which I think it's amazing um not to pry into how uh
you conduct your business but if you do have a credit card like a business credit card in order for you to make certain purchases uh in order to expand your you know this idea that you have sure I'm assuming that um it will fall right in line with the reimbursement of
one to two weeks in order to pay that off and I just want to make sure that this organization and this program um it's not losing an amazing opportunity to be able to fulfill pretty much the
you know what your idea is and I I think it's an amazing plan so if you're able to kind of figure that out rather sooner than later considering that there is a deadline um again I just would hate for this
organization and the kids that you guys serve um miss out um on a much needed program that the city you know is offering AB yeah we I mean we do have like a bank account a company bank account we don't necessarily have a credit card at the moment but we have a debit you know we run typical debit
account um but like I said there is things that we can do to spend that money but I also don't want to be greedy either um because I understand the city there's a lot that needs to be going around so I'm willing to um you know I can spend the money I can definitely do
that rather quickly uh but I also want to be fair with everybody else because we did just get approved for 40 Grand from another Grant in Lawrence so I kind of I don't want to be like I said greedy so um but if there's no way we can adjust the number then we'll make it you know we'll just take it council
president man I mean I think they will be essential I mean I'm pretty sure that these new grants probably have another another deadline that is going to extend for you guys to do all the things throughout um later on and maybe be able to spend those programs that you guys
are thinking uh but if you if you can I mean take advantage of this rant we know that it's going to be and we're so insistent trust me because we know it's going to be in good use We believe We Believe on the on that uh on the on the core value of that organiz of your
organization and we appreciate everything you do thank you uh so essentially you guys probably uh I know that it's going to take a little bit of effort uh from people that probably use the credits and stuff like
that to be able to to get pous order in place and then be able to get those stuff new stuff and be able to get reimburse but trust me I mean uh it will be very good for the kids I agree kids that you guys serve I mean I already
have everything sort of listed out I can definitely if that's something where I need to show how I plan on spending it I can definitely share that with you guys um I can so this is this is what I'm hearing because now we're just starting to repeat the same things over and over
so what what I'm what I'm going to suggest is for you to connect with suin sure um that way you guys can go over the program a little a little further um and I was going to suggest to itemize your your expenditures and and for now and your future plans but it sounds like
you already have that yes so you can review that with with Sue and you guys can work together to determine what would be a more appropriate Grant amount for for you guys to to use for this for your organization seems fair enough all right and then sue what I'm going to ask
from you is to come back or to well send and come back uh before the budget and finance committee with an updated um just a quick updated memo of of all of this and and corrected amount that we're going to transfer to the
Child Care Circuit so then we can move it up uh to the full Council all right I appreciate it all right thank you so much thank you have going so I am going can I have a motion to retable item 22 B-25 second motion has been made
properly second uh all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it now counselors can I have a motion to withdraw item 76 B-24 uh it's tabled under new business for May 7 2024 this is what we just
voted on last week um the amount that Lawrence General and greater Lawrence Family Health Center rejected that was then transferred to the child care circus circuit
circuit there I all right I'm going to second second okay is Miss here for that item proed what do you mean proceed your voice yeah because this F is been transferred but
it's not 100% transferred yet so if you withraw of those items we actually might not be a good ide to I mean right now we have something to come up with the with the new amount yeah let's see where you say all right
we're going to leave it here until everything is everything is set just as just in case umbly comp so even though
you voted at the last full council meeting to appropriate this funds it was not the the whole 100% amount it was it was the gr law Family Health Center and the LGH it was 300,000 and then out of that
we allocate 170 right uh but it the 300 the 300,000 came out of these right 150 and then another I think there's actually a typo on this item cuz great
Alliance Family Health Center um it's 100,000 for them it was 100,000 for great Family Health Center 50,000 for yeah the hospital yeah so essentially the other 150 uh that we did the allocation last
week MH was from um 100,000 from great alarms Family Health Center and 50,000 from Lawrence General so we have a 100 100,000 and maybe I better just double
check with Octavian on that but okay so we're going to leave it there until all everything is settled all right counselors any other items under taed business that you guys would like to untable seeing none I'll entertain a motion to
adjourn second motion has been remain properly seconded all those in favor say I I and the eyes have it thank you so much