Good evening. We're starting the Lawrence Licensing Board meeting. Um, everybody is present. >> Awesome. Okay, >> now we're going through the item number three. Okay, >> and this is at >> a common license.
>> Common Vic license at 97-101 Essex Street. >> It used to be a CESA resident location. >> Thank you. I don't have any current questions. Um, this is pretty straightforward. Uh, Commissioner Leer, do you have any questions? >> I have a couple questions and they're
going to be answered real quick. Uh, >> first of all, I've been at a Brazilian restaurant before in TV and they keep bringing the steaks out. >> Same exact >> same idea, right? >> Same idea. >> What's it cost?
>> Um, well, we have a menu. >> The cost analysis not done yet, but it will be at some point. Uh, but they're definitely going to keep it I mean, put it this way, part of the deal for him to do this is to keep it as um non-expensive as possible,
>> okay? >> Because it's going to be a family restaurant. >> So, you want to expect, you know, families to come with their kids. >> So, you want to keep that a little bit down, still make money. But >> my second question is, uh what are your hours going to be? Um, so the hours based on what I was
told it was going to be between um the pre- crap is going to start early. Uh, they're going to open for lunch and they're going to close at 9:00. >> Well, I was worried about them bringing dancing and and putting music in. >> Well, on the as I understand when we get
for the liquor license, well, the restaurant the food service will be shutting down. We come to apply a few weeks for the liquor license. Those are some extended hours. So there'll be so the restaurant will be shutting down at 9:00 but in our liquor license application which beyond two
weeks from now we have extended hours for that for liquor service um after the restaurant closes. >> Yeah. >> My my problems is that that I don't mind if they sit and have a couple of drinks there that I don't want another disco dance or anything like that in here. This is going to be a restaurant and
we're going to kind of restrict it from now on from having dances and and having all these fights we have on Broadway and that's street. >> I don't think there's room for dancing. >> No, there's I don't know what happens on this floor here. There's a bunch of space there. >> No, that's the roof. >> That's the roof.
>> Oh, this is a rooftop. Yes. >> Oh, okay. >> I got you. >> Yeah. >> You made the a little bit bigger. I can read it. >> I know. I know. I know. I know. >> I mean, somebody with small handwriting over there in this one.
>> As long as couple drinks, I have no problems. Um, every Brazilian restaurant I've been to, it's been a gold mine as long as the food. You know what I mean? >> Oh. Um, they're going to That's why they're looking for the food first because I guess they're going to um start preparing the foods and they're
going to bring people to taste it before they actually do an opening. >> And we were invited. So >> great. >> I have no more questions. >> Lieutenant Elder Jerry. >> Okay. How you have more questions? >> Lieutenant. >> Um, we did an inspection of the property
for the sprinkler system and we didn't have any objections or any concerns. So, best of luck. Hope it goes well. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I'll make a motion we approve this car license. >> I'll second it >> and we'll see you in a couple weeks.
Thank you, Commissioner. >> Uh, sorry. Uh, Commissioner Lamb made a motion to approve Brazilian State House and Bar 97101 SS Street. Second by Commissioner Morales.
Commissioner Le, do you vote? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? >> Yes. >> Motion pass. Congratulations and good luck. See your laws. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. See you. See you guys in the Thank you.
So this is the next one is >> the link goes for >> transcript. >> Yeah. >> Did you check all the information that I sent about this? >> Yes, >> you got it right. >> I did. >> Okay, good. Thank you. I'm going to put the one group here. >> Yeah.
>> And the other group on the other side. >> Okay, great. >> Okay, let me Okay. >> Good morning. Sorry, this is a very small space. >> Yeah.
>> Hello. Hello. >> How are you? >> That's his name. You can't take his Awesome. >> Thank you so much. Um, for this portion, we do have some public participation. So, I think I'm going to let um some of the business owners um share their
perspective and then we'll we'll come to your application. >> Okay. Thank you. >> They're going to speak in Spanish. >> Okay. English. Okay. Would you like to begin in English and then I'll be able to translate for
them? >> Just your comments. >> My >> Yes. >> I'd like to hear what they have to say. Why are they applying for this license? >> Okay. Okay. >> We can do it after that. >> Either way. Um, sounds great. Um, so if you guys can tell me tell us a little
bit about your application, your business, etc. >> Sure. And thank you for having us. Uh, good evening. My name is Adam Barnowski. here on behalf of Route 28 LLC. Uh with me is uh Devon Body and uh Narendra Bar
Barbalia who is the owner and the post manager of record. Uh so we are here regarding uh the applicant's request for a transfer of a all alcoholic beverage off- premise license. Uh this is going to come from Baldi Enterprises Inc. The business as Beacon Hill Wine and Spirits
at 280 Marramac Street. Uh the owner is is is here from that location. Um as the board may be aware, Sam's is a neighborhood convenience store. It's uh located at uh 383 385 Broadway with business address of 389 Broadway. Um so
this is a small independently owned business. Uh that being said, Sam's Food Store, the brand has over 200 locations across uh New England and Canada. Uh the current owners took over the business about five years ago. Uh as part of their ownership, they're trying to turn
it into more of a gourmet convenience store, a market, someplace where you can get prepared foods, cheeses, other things. And as part of that, they want to incorporate the sale of alcohol as uh as part of the upgrade. Um as the board might be aware, the property is located
on Broadway. It's just north of the Cross Street intersection. Uh it contains one floor, 2,625 square ft of retail space with one entrance to means of egress. Essentially one uh retail um location you walk in.
It's a storage room, a restroom, point of sale. Um the proposed liquor inventory is going to be somewhat limited. Like I said, this is going to be one component of a of a broader array of items. There'll be one cooler that'll be located next to the point of sale that'll have cold beer and wine. And
then they'll have wine and uh some alcohol behind the counter. Uh pros manager of record, Nendra. He is well experienced with uh this sort of business. He's ran this business at this location for 5 years. Um he also has a
beer wine license in Beverly for several years. There have been no issues with the local municipality of the ABCC there. No underage drinking. They do uh have a scanner at the location they use for alcohol. all points of sale. Anyone
buying alcohol gets carded. Um he'll be on site full time. He did provide his uh resume and experience in the application. Um turning to the idea of public need, I know that that as as a license commission here, you always think about public need when you're looking at a new license. Um the
property is located in the in the uh main commercial corridor in the city. It's with the B2 zoning district. Um, this area consists primarily, not exclusively, retail and commercial businesses. And while there are other locations in the area with alcohol sales, um, there are none, on the
western side of Broadway. And the other licensed stores, um, they are different in nature from what we're proposing here, either a fullervice liquor store or, uh, or a supermarket that serves, you know, beer and wine. Um, it's also worth noting, I know that that you know,
Lawrence, like many communities, you have liquor stores in certain areas. Most of the time they mirror what your commercial corridors look like. There are certain clusters of licenses throughout the city. Um, here, if you actually look on the map of your off- premise and on premise, um, there are
clusters in the city that where there are more licenses. uh and notably just south of of the Marramac River where this license is coming from, you're actually taking a license from a larger cluster of off- premise licenses and moving it to an area where there are
less. So um I think it's worth noting. It's also just again worth noting this is not the creation of a liquor store. You're creating a um uh an amenity for an existing business. No new traffic. There's already parking there. There's customer base. We think
this will be a nice amenity for folks that already come there. So, with that being said, we're happy to dive into any other questions you might have and talk about anything else. Thank you. >> Okay, great. >> Do you guys want to say anything? >> Of course. At this point, I'd like to say obviously, not to tell the
commissions how to do their job and what they need to consider, but there is a reason why there's a lickness test for why these licens are issued. >> It's a need basis. And if you look at the need basis, you have a liquor store 400 ft down the street. You have a BMY
grocery store and prepared food stores that they own at the other on the other side on cornerback street only 600 ft away. >> Furthermore, you have on Manchester Street Caribbean that has a BMW. To the
west, as the gentleman just referred at the corner of Hampshire and Park Street, you have a full liquor license. If you go down to Lawrence Street, which is not that far away either, another liquor license and further up. Now, I don't even know why this is being concerned. I
I thought we have a zoning by law of 1,000 ft from another establishment. So, did they get zoning relief to come before you? Did they get zoner relief? >> I can answer that after you get Thank you.
>> They did. And I'll answer that after you get done talking. Okay. Okay. You can answer. So, I'm assuming they didn't get zoning relief because I heard that zoning rejected their application. So, if the application was rejected, how did they have the right to even come before you to apply for a beer of wine
or full liquor license? If that's the case, something something went right. Something was dropped in between this process. So, hopefully in in consideration of this transfer, you'll see what I'm talking about and you will deny this. And in denying this, I am
sure that the ABC they will probably appeal to the ABCC and hopefully the ABCC will see the wisdom of your decision and perhaps correct the decision or the lack of filing properly properly on the part of the zoning board. So I I don't know exactly what
happened between the zoning board and whatever else procedure was supposed to happen, but there's really no reason for this to be happening, >> especially when there's so many license right. >> I just want to stop for a minute. Thank you. you to put give your name and what business you have so it's on the record.
Oh, I'm sorry. Gina Panola. I own Broadway l4 Broadway. >> I resided at 52 Anderson Drive in Tingsboro, Massachusetts. >> Okay. >> Thank you. I just >> No, I'm pretty much I think it's a pretty open and closed situation. I mean if there was a need I mean if you have a
th00and 2,000 square you know you you have at the corner of paper and Broadway you have the liquor store which is now finance which has been there for such a long time I forget the name where it was before go a little bit further up the street you got primos liquor at the
corner of Oxford and here I mean we're just inundated I don't think there's a need for another uh if that license was issued for wid was issued fine It's it's issued. It's properly issued. Whatever. There's no reason to transfer it. There's no need. >> It's all about a need, right?
>> It's a need basis situation. That's all we need. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Want to say something? Okay. Yum supermarket where they sell um wine and beer. >> No,
wine and beer. Um so it's a it's like a grocery store as well. And there 355 street and they do prepared food as well. >> Yeah, it's a very small business for um
more liquor stores to be added and he feels like every day the businesses is um shrinking in the area. I think that we're all really close where we are. >> I just asked him if that was all and um he said no that they're good. We're just
here um to represent their business. >> So you're against it, right? >> Yes. I'm against >> Okay. Um Commissioner Lar. >> Yeah. I have some questions. Okay. I just want to let put this on the record.
South Broadway and North Broadway. It's one long street. The only difference is goes across the river. Okay. We have 18 or 19 liquor store licenses in the city. On South Broadway and North Broadway, eight store liquor licenses on that
thing. The um that's like 50% of our liquor licenses on one street. Okay. Well, mass law does not imply the regulation above the,000 ft like we do. But our zoning board does. Okay. So,
um zoning board heard your case and they did not address it in a number of time or did not file it or did not give you a copy and you wanted on an appeal. The reason for the $1,000,000
fee is to stop the major problems in that area. All right. stopping so the business from being overconentrated with liquor stores and or bars and you know right but going
back to the old time in the city I've been a police officer in this city for 33 years and I remember Jack in a Box who's near you >> and then it's Kenneth Paint and then there's your business. Okay. I remember when I used to be on the detail at the
Jack in a Box or brought at store 24 until 5:00 in the morning because of the problems over there. The people from the Jack in the Box would cause problems and they've been in York Store 24 and be a constant problem. Up until a couple years ago, there was still problems over
there. I haven't heard anything lately about it. Um, the other problem is these stores have to close at 11:00 except the day before a holiday. They can close at 11:30. Your business is open till 1 5:00 in the
morning to whatever time it is, right? How do you going to stop the liquor from coming in here? You're going to have kids 21, 22 seeing it and they're going to want to take it out and you're going to have a problem. And that's a problem that they can't have because they have to close at 11. Well, you're open till 11:30.
>> Not 11 o'clock or one o'clock. Um, I see a lot of problems with this being congested. I think of the public safety there, the people with the foods and drinking and everything else in there. When I look at eight liquor stores on one street and on the side street, like
you said, on Manchester Street, when you go up a little further on Haven Street, go the other way. They're all over the place in the custo. It's got to come to a stop. It cannot go there. I'm not against you getting a liquor license. I would say get a liquor license, but as far as me, I cannot see you going there.
Now, the zoning law made a mistake. They didn't put the report in time. Since they did put a report, you can waver on that, but it's up to us now to confirm it or not. And I I just can't see us approving it. >> So, um you know, I understand where
you're coming from, sir. We've owned the business for about 5 years. Um, since we bought the business, we've cut down our hours of operations. We close at midnight on weekdays and we open at 7:00 a.m. currently in the mornings. The reason for that is because, you know,
right now we're a convenience store and we don't have liquor. So, we have to bring in customers somehow. And that's by opening early and closing late so people can get their last minute items. In terms of the timing, we plan on adjusting our timing to adhere to local and state laws. You know, same thing
around holidays being closed on Thanksgiving and Christmas. You know, we're not going to be one of those stores where we lock the cooler doors after a certain time or whatever. We're going to follow the rules. We're going to follow the time blocks and all that. Um, you know, since we've acquired the
store, you know, I know you talked about police calls and how there's been a decrease in all of that, and that's because, you know, number one, our hours are reduced, and also, we take pride in being there and being a part of our business. We're there every single day. You know, me and him work seven days a
week. Um I own five other liquor stores throughout the state. He only has a beer and wine license in Beverly. You know, I'm down from Cape Cod all the way to, you know, Wuburn and um Northand over in fact. And we have procedures in place where every single alcohol sale is
carded. You know, each ID is scanned. We want to make sure we're doing the right job. We don't want alcohol in the wrong hands because we don't want nuisance. I grew up in Lawrence. Um, you know, I've been in Lawrence since 2007, right? I've been in Lawrence for 15 years now. And I
know the city really well. I know the people really well. And I know the culture of Lawrence. And the culture of Lawrence says, you know, in the evening when you're grabbing a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk, yeah, I'll grab a bottle of wine to enjoy with my family and things of that sort. or yeah, I'll
grab a quilt six-pack. We don't want to be a neighborhood packy, you know. We're not going to be displaying nips and pints and half pints and all of that. We just want to have something else that our customers can find and shop around for. And that's the main premise.
There's a reason why in our floor plan, all the liquor is behind the counter, our cooler is next to the counter so we can avoid all the nuisance that comes from, you know, alcoholic beverages, you know, and I want to reiterate the fact
that we plan on being responsible. We understand that there was the zoning situation and that, you know, because of some part of their communication process, things had fell through. And us being business owners, we have the right to appeal the fact that, you know, the
ball was dropped on some on some page. It's not that we're trying to take advantage of your guys's rules and regulations. We just had an opportunity to appeal and that's what we had done because we want to care for our business. And at the end of the day, you
know, we're not trying to create competition. >> We're just trying to give something else for our customers as an additional item when they walk into our doors, you know, and yeah, if there's any other questions, I lost
talking this way. You're only 400 ft from his business. >> You're 600 feet from these people's business. >> And they haven't been notified. Their buddies haven't been notified yet. Okay? So there might be other people who complain and there's also a neighborhood
there and they're going to be hearing this and and there's a gang problem here in the city and I ain't the first one minute this will tell you there's a gang problem in the city. If you've been here this long you know and they're going to come in they're going to want be and do what they want and they're going to
force you or give you a hard time. You don't need that there. The city the Broadway don't need it and especially the Jack in the Box don't need it. You don't need to bring the hassle and complaints back to this. If you were up by the mat in line, I'd say beautiful. Move up there. Have it. You want to go
to another location? I would say you can go any place you want other than Broadway right now. I cannot see us giving all our liquor licenses to Broadway and South Broadway and North Broadway. That is going to stop. You know, there's other streets in the city. You
know, there's other locations, but I don't know if you want to buy another location or what. That's that's not my problem. That my problem is to think of the public safety here. My problem is the over congestion of the the business and it's too closely referencing
laws. I look at all these things and I'm I'm against it, but I'll let Abraham speak. >> Go ahead. >> Can I speak? >> So, um, my name is Rebecca Baraldi. I am the license holder of the license that's in question of being transferred. Um I
just a couple of things that I just wanted to say. Obviously I can't speak to your crime issue in Lawrence and I I can appreciate that. I can however speak to competition and over congestion. I've been in the liquor industry for 27 years
now. I owned a store that was one of 15 within two streets. And initially I was going to address you and just say I've had stores directly across the street from me. I've had stores three doors down from me.
Competition is good for business. I can tell you that as a business owner. Um because you find ways to be creative and to evolve and to find your niche because as business owners we all sometimes become complacent. So, I can tell you
I've I've owned in three communities and I was overpop populated in all of them. Even where my license is right now, liquor store 400 ft to my right. Liquor store 400 ft to my left. >> May Street. >> Yeah.
>> What is happeners gas station and the I don't remember the name of it. >> Earket. >> E market. And had I known full transparency, I probably wouldn't have felt there had I known. But I didn't know. Now, that being said, that has
nothing to do with why I am looking to transfer the license. But I can tell you from my experience in Melrose and in Boston. So, in Melrose, my competitor was directly across the street from me directly. Um, I wasn't happy, but they
allowed it. And you know what? I was okay. In Boston though, 15 stores between Charles Street and Cambridge Street. >> I can't answer that. I will say this. This is not Boston. This is not Melro. >> This is Lawrence. >> Yeah. That's why I can't say
>> we only allow We're only allowed 18 or 19 package stores. Okay. Now, he says he wants a limited if sales doesn't go good, he might add more and become a complete package store. You know, and I don't want to start you say I've given you an example. We have these clubs come
in here and restaurants come in. We open a restaurant, we want a a liquor license. So we approve the liquor license and they next thing you know we get a disco deck there or a dance hall and a bar with dance because they change the rules once they get the license they
change what they want to do. All right. And our problem is we're trying to stop that. We're trying to control the problems on street. So when a new restaurant come in like the one that just came in here now tonight for you. We asked him what are you going to do? No dancing. He said I'll pause there. I
want to close at 9:00 maybe couple hours to send the bar to let people drink. That's it. It's okay. No dancing. No nothing. He says yes. Now he's got a full liquor license. He doesn't make the business. How do we know he ain't going to change it like the other clubs did and make a dance call out? Can I can I
um just to answer that to a little bit and I'm not exactly sure how you guys would feel about this, but I can tell you when I opened in Melrose, Melrose was dry. I was the first liquor store in town. Um and they made me in order for
me to be able to do this, they made me agree to things that weren't even necessarily in compliance with the state, but I was willing to do it because I wanted the license. So, I had to agree to my hours being a certain
time. I had to agree that I would not sell certain products, that I wouldn't carry certain bottle sizes, and those were things that they held me to. It was contingent to my license. >> Well, large is not a dry towel. >> No, I a very well liquid town.
>> Thank you. Um and then >> um so the last thing that I want to add in is uh you know Sam's food store previously store 24 has been in the community for what would you say 20 plus years
>> a lot of the place was there so it was in the 70s they were there >> so a very long time you know business that business has been there for a very long time it's been a pillar of Lawrence's community. So, you know, we
just want to bring in something to ser to for our customers to have as an other option when they're shopping with us. >> It's not to change our existing concept. We're a Sam's food store. We're a marketplace >> and we just want people to enjoy our market.
>> I understand what you're saying. Your store has been there 24 years, 30 years, 40 years or Jack in a Box. If you know what they call big and beefy and big, right? >> It's been there for years, >> correct? >> His business has been there for years.
>> His business has been there for years. >> Yeah. >> And all of a sudden, you want to come in and step into their business. You're going to, you know, you say, "I want to have limited things." Limited things turned out to be more than limited. Always turn out to be more limited. But
I'm done talking. So, >> thank you. Council, did you want to say anything? >> Yeah. I just I'll take just a moment but but I just want to just put a few things on the record. One one is that um just because the discussion got into zoning I just want to be clear so that that the board is aware that the uh we did get
the constructive approval but the underlying issue really was that the the zoning regulations say that there can't be liquor that the the regs actually say liquor sales within a thousand feet of one another. That's what the regulations say. But if you go through the community, you'd be hardressed to find
any store whether off premise or on premise that is not within a thousand feet of another liquor sale. So it's it's really it's about consistency and uniformity. And that's really what we're looking to do looking to do here is that talk about consistency and uniformity. You know, you know, as listen, I I was I
was in your chairs in the community in which I lived for many years. I understand the concerns that you're looking at. Um, but what I always remember was that business competition couldn't be a part of public, right? And here, I mean, I think, you know, to your point, Commissioner, you're saying is there's a lot of liquor licenses here.
This is not the creation of a new license. This is taking one from a more densely packed licensing area to a less, albeit there are other businesses in the area, but still it's still less. And as far as usage goes, you're talking about this this same license could be a total
wine. the same license could be a large um a really large operation. It's going to be a small so I think when you're looking net for net liquor sales in this community talking about a smaller business and I think that you as the board have the authority to condition the license however you'd like. I mean
you said that that you know police calls have have gone down in this area. I haven't heard >> you haven't heard. >> I I think that that's accurate and I think that um to make a decision based on an idea that it might increase in the future might not be, you know, the the
the best uh reason to deny a license. And I think that here, you know, the board has the constraints of renewal. The board the board has the or the not the constraints, the opposite, they they have the the issue of renewal. they have the the issue of uh bringing in, you know, you've heard testimony today as to
what they're planning on doing. They decide to do something else and they go in a different direction. Um that would be a misrepresentation to this board. And I think that these business owners have shown themselves to be very very uh good, smart, and honest folks. Um, and again, I think that if you give them the
opportunity, you know, I think that the idea of density, the idea of minimizing the liquor that's being sold in the city and the again, the proximity, we're just dealing with the facts of the city and the proximity of all the business to one another. you're going to find that this
is in uniform or more conservative than this board either in in its current composition or prior incarnations has granted licenses of much closer proximity all over the city. So it would not be a consistent decision
to deny on that basis. Um, and I just think again that that it's a limited use and the hours can be conditioned, the scope within the store can be conditioned, you can put whatever limitations you like on it. >> Thank you.
Oh, to respond something about the on premise uh business of legal license, they don't have any limitation because they can be doortodoor and that's not a problem for the the rules and regulations. And most of the time when
these people apply for a liquor license and they are next to door they apply and they send a letter to the owner saying that they going to apply for a legal license. And what happened here is that
I don't know how the owner of of broal find out that this business went to Sony and come to the office and ask why we didn't know that someone is applying for a legal license at 400 ft from my business. So as a licensing coordinator
I had to give the information to them. >> Sure. >> That was the problem. So as you all know we are a board of two people and if we don't have consensus we can't it won't it won't go through and so one thing I want to say is is that
the current man that we have is a small business owner. So he really does understand and prioritizes small businesses and the ties that people have to this community. So I don't want to throw that out of the window because or out the door because I know you guys have been in business for such a long community such a long time in the
community of Lawrence and we appreciate that. The minute that this came to us, it wasn't just uh these gentlemen. We had calls upon calls to us separately from businesses in the area. Yes. And so that's that's where the issue lies for
us. It's not that we do not want to support your business. We do. We do. and and we respect the fact that you guys are here. Um, we also need to be aware of the people that are also our other business owners and neighbors that are making the calls um when they did see
this application come through. And that that is one of the that's also an issue for us. I feel like we can't um make a uh decision and do right by the community without paying attention paying attention to that. And then again, if my colleague is not in
agreement, we can't we're two people, so we can't move it forward. Can I ask how does the board feel about So I have two questions. One is how does the board feel about as council suggested stipulations
on an approval and two is there any place in Lawrence that's acceptable. >> Yeah. I mean, we have a ton of spaces. There's a lot of of of licenses in the
area. In this area in particular, um I I just want you guys to know that it's not personal. It's really the the business owners in the area know how congested it is and also the issues that they've already had in the community and we've and we've heard them. And so that's
where we are stuck in this in this particular point. It's also a problem for I don't know nothing about a liquor store. How can I set a limit? I know some places say you can't sell nips. I'm not going to go in there and say you can't do this and do that. That's beyond
my authority. It happens on my but respectfully it's not it's not beyond your I >> you're you're able to get I mean you can condition a license with with with really any anything that's that's acceptable >> I understand I can condition but I don't want to take away like let me leave walking into stores because they find a
bunch of nip bottles in the ground and crack bottles are nips made from it and say you can't sell things some towns have done it I have no problem with these guys serving like I don't see no beer bottles or liquor things around their property.
They're down the street on Broadway by bananas. You'll see no problems down there. You don't see anything at Primo Liquors. You don't see anything at um what's it? Discount Liquors at 109 Broadway. >> 103 103 Broadway. Oh, we keep an eye on
them. We had a problem with one store that sold 34 uh sold liquor to 34 miners in one night. Okay. He got caught by the ABC. Somehow he beat the case. I don't know.
I wasn't part of that board at the time, but he got his license back. And this guy is working hard. Everybody comes in. If you're 65 years old, you're going to be check on ID. >> He learned his lesson. Okay. I'm not going to I don't want to be going out every night on a Friday or Saturday
night checking on clubs, checking on package stores or anything else. I was having Thanksgiving dinner and I think I spoke to you about it. Uh what happened was I got a call from him that Broadway Liquors was selling liquor on
Thanksgiving Day. Right. >> And I went to that place and I parked in the parking lot and I watched all these cars pull in. Not one got into the thing. They just pulled in. Think it was open. Went to the door back in the car and left. >> You have signs all over the place.
They still kept coming in and coming in. I don't want to be bothered doing doing Thanksgiving dinner or anything like that. This >> so we have our regulation. You know, you got to understand the safety of that neighborhood, the increased traffic and everything that's going to be over there. It's a busy street now. I wouldn't see it. I if she wanted to sell
it to go to another place, another location, I said beautiful, but Broadway's not the place. The reason, you know, we've entertained other locations. It's not like we haven't, you know, but the reason why we came back to our existing location is
because we had parking there. We have an established business there, you know, and that's why we saw it as fit and we were willing to adjust our hours, follow all the local laws, state laws,
regulations. You know, I I just want to reiterate that we're not looking to be a packy. You know, I we own five other stores in the state of Massachusetts. Don't have any violations or anything of that sort.
And, you know, we want to just bring in additional products for our existing customer base. you know, we're willing to make sure that we're going above and beyond and to make sure that the city is safe and that our customers are safe and
all of that stuff, right? I can't guarantee what happens outside of our property or off of our driveway, but I can guarantee that whoever parks in our car, they will be held up to the standard of all local laws, state laws,
and regulations. >> And again, just just just to reiterate on the congestion issue again, It's going to serve the existing customer base. This is, you know, folks want uh, you know, a high-end bottle of wine or a specialty tequila or any, you know, more small bottles or nymphs and they can go
to Broadway Liquors and buy, you know, the vast array of great products that they have at that store. This is going to be something very different. >> We're not going to throw up a sign on the street that says, "Liquor sold here." Now, we're not going to market it
that way. It's just that when our customers come in, they'll see it. Great. You know, we don't believe in marketing for liquor. If you search any of my other locations, you won't see any marketing on websites or you won't find social media pages because it's all
natural. It's organic growth. Customers see us, they'll come in, and that's it. You know, we don't want to feed on to a problem. We just want people to be able to find us naturally. >> Thank you. Thank you, Lieutenant. >> So, I'll make pretty brief. As far as
your business, we personally haven't had any issues there. As far as I can tell in the last couple years, it used to be a problem when it was open 24 hours a day because obviously of your store being open. I obviously probably weren't the owner. Maybe you were. >> No, I wasn't.
>> So, for the police department, we haven't had any issues there. So, I have no issues. I have no questions regarding your licensing. >> Thank you, Lieutenant. >> I have no questions. Thank you, >> Commissioner.
>> I make a motion. Do not approve it. >> I will second the motion. >> Commissioner Le made a motion to dismiss the legal license at 383 385. Bro, second by Commissioner Morales. Commissioner Le, how do you vote? >> Yes.
>> Commissioner Morales, how do you vote? >> Motion passed. Dismiss. >> You know, you have the right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
That was the last item. >> Was that the last item? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We have a next meeting on the 12th, right? >> The next meeting is going to be on the 19th. >> November 19th at 5:30. >> Yes.
>> I'd like to make a motion to adjourn this meeting. >> I'll second that. Commission Mary.