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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: 1VThrQh5GGU):
- 00:03:58: Invocation, Pledge of Allegiance, Historic Preservation Proclamation
- 00:07:18: Introduction to Public Comments Regarding City Matters
- 00:08:33: Public Comment: Virginia Samuels Cares Day Awareness
- 00:09:58: Public Comment: Improving Life Quality in Leburg
- 00:12:57: Consent Agenda: Approval of Routine Items and Procedures
- 00:13:54: Resolution for Palm Harbor Drive Bridge Rehabilitation
- 00:16:33: Resolution for Katroli Wastewater Treatment Plant Evaluation
- 00:42:32: Public Hearings Introduction, Grace Groves District Amendment
- 00:47:33: County Road 33 Community Development District Boundary Amendment
- 00:51:21: Appointment to Leburg Electric Advisory Board
- 00:52:25: Commission and Staff Reports, Adjournment Motion


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Heavenly Father, we come before you today representing one Leburg. Help us to lead with kindness, to speak with respect, and to stand together even when the world feels uncertain around us. Bless this commission, this community, and

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every resident we serve. Let our work today be rooted in purpose, truth, and guided by integrity, and reflective of your grace. And this we ask in your name. Amen. >> Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We have one proclamation today. I should read it here. Right.

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Whereas the National Trust for Historic Preservation established Historic Preservation Week in 1973 and 2026 marks its 21st anniversary. And whereas National Historic Preservation

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Month recognizes the importance of preserving our nation's historic places and heritage for future generations. And whereas Leberg's historic homes, buildings, and sites contribute to the

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city's unique character and serve as tangible links to its past. And whereas historic preservation strengthens communities and reflects the shared heritage of people from all backgrounds. And whereas it is important to

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acknowledge the contributions of individuals and organizations dedicated to preserving the legacy that has shaped our community. And whereas preservation efforts foster community pride, support sustainability, and connect residents to

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a shared history. And whereas the year's theme, all people are created equal, highlights the role of preservation in building stronger, more inclusive, and connected communities. And whereas protecting Leburg Leburg's heritage

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reflects a commitment to honoring the diverse stories that define the city. Now therefore, I, Allison Barry, mayor of the city of Leburg, Florida, on behalf of the Leburg City Commission, do hereby proclaim May 2026 as historic

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preservation month in the city of Leburg, Florida, and encourage residents to recognize and celebrate the city's heritage. May I present this They decided they'd send a historic relic.

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>> Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Very good. Thank you so much. We have no presentations other than that proclamation. Now we go to public comments. At this time, we the public may bring matters to the

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city commission's attention. We will not discuss issues raised during this time. We will refer your comments to the appropriate staff or schedule them for consideration at a future commission's meeting. If you are speaking about an item that will be considered later in this meeting, your comments will be

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heard during public limit. During public limit to ensure equal opportunity for all participants. Thank you. If you would please state your name and address. >> Candace Chapman, executive director and founder of Virginia Samuels Cares Incorporated, PO Box 492032,

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here in the great city of Leburg, Florida. leaving. >> You too, Miss Henderson. >> One of my former students. >> Yes, ma'am. I love you. >> Um, I just want to bring attention. I want to first say thank you, city manager, for addressing my previous

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comments. I appreciate the feedback. Um, I just want to come today to bring awareness to Virginia Samuels Cares Day, May 16th. We're celebrating mental health awareness and stroke awareness in the name of my grandmother, Virginia El Samuels. a previous city employee, 31

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years. It's going to be at the resource center, 1041 County Road 468. It's going to start at 3:00 till 6. It's a free event for the community. We're going to have free bounce houses, face painting, um

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speakers, they're going to speak on stroke prevention, lung cancer prevention, and mental health. Uh we're going to help people have healthier lives and have fun doing it. So, I just want the public to know that they are welcome. Everyone is welcome. So, please

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come out and join us and let's celebrate my grandmother and um bringing awareness to mental health and stroke prevention. Thank you and have a great day. >> Thank you. >> Start. >> Please state your name and your address.

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Good afternoon, madame mayor, commissioners, city attorney, city clerk, and those in attendance. My name is Bridget Washington, and I reside at 1011 East North Boulevard with my husband, Anthony Washington, who is also

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here with me tonight. What is in a name? My last name is Washington by marriage. However, what inspires my husband and me to make Leburg a better place is due to the name of my forefathers, my grandparents, and my cousins, the

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Coleman's, the Morrises, and the Dabneys. The main library at Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University, FAM U, is named for Samuel Coleman, a first cousin of my greatgrandmother, Gertrude Coleman Morris. My grandfather,

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Benjamin Arnett Morris, was a first cousin of Hubert Odabney. My great-grandparents were the first couple married at St. Paul African Methodist Episcopal Church when it was established in Leburg in the early 1900s. These families, Coleman, Morris, and

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Dabney, have been a part of Lake Countyy's story since the late 1800s. With that legacy in mind, those names fuel our commitment to ensuring that Leburg's leadership is truly serious and sincere about improving a quality of

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life for the entire community, not just for a select few. Leburg is now our home. My husband and I have lived resided in Miami, Florida, metro Atlanta, Georgia, and we lived in the Middle East, the United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi, Ala, and Dubai for several

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years. We resided in those places. However, when I think of home, I think of Leburg, a home that I think we think is currently out of order. When Anthony and I relocated to Leburg, we found that the house we were moving into was not in order. We had to repair, replace, or

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discard things that were damaged, destroyed, outdated, or no longer usable. As a retired educator, 42 years, I have found that the use of analogies often makes it easier for individuals to comprehend information. So, I ask you to

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picture Leburg as a house in need of repair and our city agencies as the systems that must work properly to keep it safe and livable. Code enforcement, law enforcement, solid waste management need an honest assessment, higher standards, and consistent

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professionalism. And yes, change is in order if the house is going to be in order. My family's roots in Lake County go back to the late 1800s. So this is personal for us and it is urgent. We are expecting measurable action, clear accountability, and real improvement.

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We're here to do the work to continue bringing things to your attention for as long as it takes until this house feels like home. Not just for us, but everyone in Leburg. Thank you for your time and you have a pleasant rest of your day. Thank you. >> Thank you.

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Are there any others? Seeing none, let's move on to consent agenda. Routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite expedite the meeting. If the commission staff wishes to discuss any item, the procedures procedure is as follows. Pull the items from the consent

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agenda, vote on remaining items with one roll call vote, and discuss each pulled item and vote by roll call. Are there any items the commission would like to pull? >> 5B1 and 5B3. >> May we get a motion for the remaining

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>> I'll make a motion to approve the remaining consent agenda. >> Second. >> Someone will please introduce a roll call, please. Commissioner Conell. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. Commissioner Reeseman. Mayor Barry.

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>> Yes. Will someone please introduce 5B1? >> I'll introduce and ask be reported by title one. >> 5B2. Excuse me. >> I thought it was 5B1 and 5B3. It is >> 5B and three. Okay. >> 5B1. Resolution of the city commission

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of the city of Leburg, Florida, authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute a task order with Half Associates, Inc. for Palm Harbor Drive bridge rehabilitation and repair design services and providing an effective date. Move >> for approval.

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>> Second. >> Um I spoke to Al earlier about this through our conversations. My understanding they're going to I guess going to do a study to tell us what's wrong with this bridge. >> Is that design? >> No sir. We already had an inspector

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with Kelsey, public works director. Good evening. Um, no sir. We we had a briden. So, how this resulted was a boater went under the bridge, saw some damage to the head wall, and then we also had a pedestrian go over, saw some erosion,

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and um some drainage issues that were sacrificing the the seaw wall. So, what we did is we had a bridge inspector come out, take a look at it. They put together a report and we read the report and said, "What are the next steps?" They said, "Well, you need to get um a

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bridge engineer to design a fix for this." So, we reached out to FDOT uh because we don't have a whole lot of bridges in the city of Leburg. We said, "Hey, who do you guys recommend?" Um Beshalf is the the the only local bridge

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design engineer in the area. They recommended we go to them. So we reached out to Beshalf for a proposal for to implement the um the fixes that the bridge inspector discovered and give us engineer drawings so that we can repair the bridge properly.

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>> So this is so this is the design >> correct yes >> this will help us leave the design bid build >> correct on which we have design. >> Okay that's what we figuration it's the design that would get us to bid >> okay this will cover the a toz on the

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plans. >> Yes sir. Okay, that's where I want a clarification on. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reman, >> yes. >> Commissioner Conell, >> yes. >> Mayor Barry, >> yes. >> Would someone please introduce 5B3?

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>> I'll introduce be right by title only. Resolution of the city commission of the city of Leburg, Florida, authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute a task order with Half Associates, Inc. for the Katroli wastewater treatment plant evaluation and providing an effective

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date >> approval. Second, >> again, another topic. I spoke with city manager today and um were you able to find out any of the questions I had?

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I will try to be brief. >> Sure. >> Just in case you go down this road so not to share our hand because this is what makes public sunshine issues especially when it comes to potential purchasing difficult. Um we have spoke

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to catroli. Catroli has not told us how much they want to consider purchasing. Um but let me let me jump into what the purpose of this is. This

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is a contract with half engineering to evaluate whether any of the CROLI facilities have repurposability for the city of Leburg. Two particular things of interest that

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may have repurposability for the city of Leburg is Catroli's effluent site not on site here in downtown and a sewer plant that they have which is no longer being used for their

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purpose. I feel extremely confident that the city's capacity of 9 MGD million gallons a day on water and sewer probably gets us to a time frame of about 2035,

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maybe 2040 depending on how quick houses are built. 2030 is probably an intricral date in that long-term plan because in 2030, while I'm talking wastewater, I'm going to shift over to to water. Our consumptive use permit will be under

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review by the district. By 2030, we'll probably have a lot better feel today on how fast we're going to hit our nine MGD kind of capacities. So, we have 9 MGD capacities on both. We have a 9 MGD

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capacity to get rid of effluent and we have a capacity of 9 MGD in our combined sewer plants, which would be turnpike and canal. and and then we have uh the responsibil then we have 9 mgd of water use. Right

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now we're hovering at water use and again we we've been staying pretty solid around 7 MGD. Um you know that goes up and down a little bit but that's our average. Um, so based on the unit counts that we've seen that th those those

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dates 2030 for CUP as we as we go into that in the next couple years to get an extension on our CUP or whether we ask for more water that's really going to start helping us to get out into the future of when will we need more sewer

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capacity. I think you'll need more sewer capacity. I don't know when. You guys know we just spent $3.9 million e uh expanding the turnpike treatment

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facility to from 4.5 to 6 NGD. So that million and a half gallons of capacity we built for 40 million bucks. >> 40 million. Yeah. You said >> Oh, I said I left off a zero. I said 3.9 and I was trying to see and I and I and

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it was 39.9 is what we spent, not 3.9. I left it. I put the zero the the point in the wrong spot. So, we spent $40 million on on that plant. Mind you, that plant that was kind of I'm going to say a dimminimous number because we we were

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working off expansion. So, we didn't have to buy property. We had effluent capabilities. So, all the ingredients that go into wastewater treatment, we had about a good two-fifths complete. So that's why you

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you see that number where it's at. I think by the time 2035 comes around, 2040 runs around, and the way we've been seeing numbers here, um, we see nothing but increases. So if the potential is out there to

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purchase some of these assets from Catroli, which are no longer in use, I think there is an avenue to substantially decrease our long-term costs. We don't need this tomorrow. This is a decadal issue. Um it's a

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decadal issue that's not getting any cheaper. So $70,000 is the amount of money that half is asking from us to help us do this evaluation. This amount of money is also, mind you,

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below the city manager spending authority. But because there are some risks involved, I wanted to bring this to your attention to get your approval to do this. Um, so what the what the study is going to examine is a is the facilities at um,

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Catroli usable for us? If it is usable for us, how much will it cost for us to upgrade it to where we need to go? how much sewer capacity could we get out of it and then it's also going to give us an estimate on what we think a fair

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market value for purchasing that from Controli is. So unfortunately I've got to spend about 70 grand to answer your future questions. Um and and so there in lies the conundrum. Do we want to spend

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70 grand to investigate this potential? I think it's something you want to investigate. Uh because over the course of the next 10 years, 70 grand is not going to be a lot of money. But if we spend the money on the study, the study turns out that yeah, it's it's doable,

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then it's something we want to need, then it's maybe something we want to in invest in as a potential to reduce costs in the future. So where is Katroli at? Katroli, I would say, has not done anything to

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indicate to us that they're immediately selling their property. They have, and as as of two o'clock today, Commissioner, they haven't indicated to us what the value that they want is. They indicated to us that they're still

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working on auction lists and these type of things. And I don't I don't think that in the next 30 to 45 days you're going to see a sale of petrole property. There is a time limit I isn't there Cliff on that proposal. CF

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has got to get us this information back in wouldn't it how many days? >> 90 days. >> So 90 days to do the evaluation. I don't you know could they sell it out from underneath us in 90 days? Yes. I don't think that that's a huge

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gamble. It is a gamble. Um if they did sell us, we'd immediately stop. Uh but I, you know, I'm gonna say unfortunately I think this is 70 grand we want to spend because um let me throw this number at you and it's only one in a in a in a not that's there 600 and some odd

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I think municipal corporations in the state. Not all of them do wastewater. But our neighbor Mount Dora, they they are just finishing up contracting with the 1.5 million gallon facility. Um, now they had to do all components. So this

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isn't a comparable number to us, but they're spending 100 million and we just finished off at 40 million. So the concept here is is if we can lock into something at Katroli, I'm you will be back. We'll be spending millions uh to

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potentially upgrade, purchase, do all these type of things. But that pursuit may save us significantly if we wait till 2035, 2040 or 2050 to have to do our next expansion plans. So this is

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really a preemptive kick the tires expenditure of does this make sense for us? There is some risk. I think the risks are worth it. I'm not saying that this couldn't be useful down the road. It doesn't sound like something we have to have right

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this second. But to spend $70,000 to find out with an evaluation of what might need to be done on a facility that we don't even know 100%'s for sale. And even if it was and could trolley was serious, we have no idea what they want

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for it. I don't see spending $70,000 on an evaluation on a project that I don't even 100% know it's for sale. And if it is, it if they're so far out of the ballpark that we wouldn't purchase it anyway, but we're we're out 70 grand

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now. So, I say until Katroli gets serious about selling it, at least give us some form of a ballpark of what they might want for it, I don't see spending $70,000 on this. >> I have a question. Is will the testing that takes place is the I mean, whatever

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is there needed to be done? I mean, will we have to do any repairs to do the test for the usage? And >> AB there there there will be multiple expenses and and just off the cuff, I mean, they're going to be future design expenses. >> They're going to be future purchasing

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expenses and then there will be retrof expenses, you know, retrofit expenses. So, they have that one and a half million gallon facility which was basically used to treat waste water from washing fruit. So our question is, is

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that application transferable into treating wastewater? >> I mean the the knee-jerk is yes, but what will all those costs be? There'll be, you know, there'll need to be extension of digesttors. There'll need to be different pump systems. How do we connect back and forth? It's proximity

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to the canal plant is attractive. So there's a lot of things in this mix that could really reduce our next one and a half MGD um expansion. Um, but I can't even begin to answer questions about how

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much it'll cost, what it'll do if I don't kick the tires, and we need the engineering assistance to to figure that out. Um, so it that's, you know, if this was an easy solution, I mean, the commissioner

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makes great points. I'd have signed off on it with my authority. No fuss, no mus. But before I did that, before I took the gandle gamble underneath my spending authority, I wanted to come to you all to to make sure that you you understood that this was on spec that,

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you know, it I don't think it's as bad odd as Vegas, but I I think there and I can't can't tell you what the savings are. You know, I don't I don't think purchasing Catroli and rehabbing that plant is going to be a hundred million dollars, which Mount Dora spent. You

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know, I I I don't even want to throw a number at you um about what I think the future cost would be, but I think that this is an avenue to substantially save um 2040 2050

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when you're going to be needing more wastewater. And and so when we're talking these look a plan expansion in 2050, if Mount Door is doing it for a 100red grand right now, you're going to be spending 150

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because if you don't go to this facility, our only options are expansion potentially at Turnpike and we're running out of tank space there. So pretty quickly we're going to be running into we need property, we need

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affluent area, and so the things that we will need in an expansion are ticking that this the next expansion beyond 9 MGD is going to be pretty expensive. And I think in the future, we know it's not going to be any cheaper. So, while 70 grand is a lot of money, 70 grand is not

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a lot of money in terms of the $20 million sewer fund budget, the hund00 million that could be out there. And if spending 70 on specs saves you significantly or future commissions, potentially you guys are all going to be turned out. Um, and we're talking also

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about an improvement that probably I might not be here, you know, for retirement. So, it's an opportunity. I think it's worth spending 70 grand on to look at. It doesn't come without risk. That's why I put it on the agenda. >> Do you know if any other company I mean

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anybody else is looking or standing >> waiting? This is Look, I >> I mean this is this is where Okay. So now we're talking about a public transaction that we need to be doing in public. So I don't want to give up all the cards.

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>> Okay. Uh but gota >> but I will say um Katroli has been closed what for two years now >> almost >> a little bit more than that. They they I I know from my contacts in the real estate world that people are kicking the

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tires not potentially on the plant. I know that lead and other economic development agencies including the city of Leburg has reached out and has talked to catroli agnosium and the information that I'm providing to you is the latest

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greatest and the most information I could pull out of Katroli. So unfortunately Catroli keeps their cards pretty close to the vest and and they're not sharing a lot of intel. So, do they have somebody in the hole?

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I'm going to say probably not. Otherwise, that'd be sold. That they they informed Cliff today that they were still doing uh auction stuff and prepping for that. So, I'm again, I'm gambling. I think in 90 days I can have

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information that, you know, I'll be back to you. You know, that number could be I don't know what that number is going to be. You know, they could come back to you and say, remember, there's two big numbers that's going to come. the ultimate purchase and then the rehab of the facility. But I gotta spend 7070

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grand to get those two numbers to you and I think those are two numbers that you want. >> Yeah. >> Are we talking about the entire Katroli plant here in town? >> Not at this time. >> I mean I don't mean the excess land the the I'm talking about the the c the main

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campus where the processing plant is right here. >> We are not talking about the whole main campus here. >> Okay. Okay. I wasn't clear on that >> at this time. were just talking about their sewer facilities adjacent to the >> I thought it was right there. So that's my misunderstanding. >> No, it is part of it is right here.

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>> Okay. Okay, you answered my question. Um I guess my second comment uh just to help the city out is I don't see buyers knocking the door down to buy that property. So I'm not too threatened by that. Um and um I I I do understand appreciate Commissioner Canel's

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comments, but I same breath. I mean, I'd like to know what what it's worth. What somebody thinks it's worth. >> Katroli has been in my office twice >> and in communicate with Cliff over the past 90 days

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and they're still not a buyer for Catroli and they keep asking Cliff where we're at in reference to this transaction. Are you guys still work? You know, so the the conversation back and forth between the city and Catroli is Catroli asking us, are you guys still looking to go with that engineering firm

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to see if they do an eval? So, I mean, I don't know where that they could sell it tomorrow. I don't think so. >> I'm not too worried about that. >> But I but I can affirmatively tell you I can't answer any long-term questions on what it's going to cost to purchase or what it's going to cost to fix that

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unless we spend the 70 grand. Okay? Okay. And that's I don't so I don't think it's for not um because even if you spend this today um you know you're going to be spending it tomorrow and you know you're going to be spending more than that. >> Probably not a fair question. Do we know

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the age of the equipment and it's old? >> Okay. Well, that leads into my next question. Are we going to operate it right away? Is are we It sounds to me like it's going to sit for a long time. So >> I don't know until we do the evaluation. >> Okay. Okay. I mean, is this something that we would

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want to immediately fix? Don't know. Is it, you know, that's going to depend on what we find out. So, that's again why we need the 70. >> Yeah, I guess I didn't ask that question very well. I guess what I was getting at is are we going to buy it, let it sit for 10, 15 years? I think the answer is yes. So, the equipment >> I don't I don't know if that's an

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affirmatively an a yes. I I I I don't I don't know. I here's what I see. I see an opportunity potentially for us to expand our wastewater treatment system by a million and a half gallons which is a lot you know so that's a ninth that's

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a ninth of your system and we're not using that full >> n it's a good location it's a good location it has a lot of synergies that will cheapen up if we have to build a turnpike >> or at if we have to build a turnpike or

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if we have to go to a brand new location We also got Fruitland Park knocking on our door. You know, they're trying to get more capacity. So, we've got, you know, I feel I feel very good about Leburg. Okay. I think we've managed our as much

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criticism as we get about growth. I think we've managed our house extremely well. And and and and that's why 2035 2040 I I I think is not we don't have a lot of trouble getting to that date. And

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probably 2032 is about the time when we're going to be scratching our heads saying, "What do we do past 9 MGD?" So, I mean, I wish this thing would have shut, you know, three or four years in the future, but it didn't. And

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if we're going to look at this, that's what it's going to cost me to examine it. >> Yeah. And, you know, my position on this is I'm concerned about the $70,000. Yes. But in order to make a decision whether I'm going to say, "Yeah, we need to buy

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it or no, we shouldn't buy it." We need some good information before us >> to do that. And >> I agree. If they offer it to us, we're in the dark if they put a price on it right now. >> And even if we spend the 70 grand and it

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turns out no, in in f, you know, I can't remember I we're sitting on 20 million in that fund. So, you know, to I understand 70 grand is a lot. Uh, but in this context, it it it it kind of makes sense to make the gamble because the

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flip side of this equation is it could save us millions. >> Well, I mean, >> sir, one of the one of the doouts or the deliverables we ask for is they will give us an engineers's cost estimate of what it would cost us to build whatever

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capacity we get from Catroli purchase on our own. So there is there is some value from so we are going to get something from this if if cataly if the sale doesn't go through and we decide no we will have an estimate of what the city

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what it would cost the city to build x number of >> so and that's going to be compared against a potential we got to start from scratch versus do it with catroli analysis is going to be >> yes sir we asked for a costbenefit analysis of >> I just I just don't see it I mean >> will we still be able to build at the

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location or we would have to go elsewhere. >> No, this would be only if we the comparison in the report is what would it cost us to build 1.5 MGD versus what would it cost to adapt to Catroli. So,

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we'll see the delta, >> but we're we're making a comparison something we don't even know for sale. I I'm fine with the evaluation study and I I would support an evaluation study prior to purchase, but until we know if it's even available and what they're

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going to want for it, to me, the evaluation study would be done during your due diligence process to see if you want to move forward with the purchase or not. We don't even know what they want for it, much less if it's for sale. And to go out and spend $70,000 on something that we don't have those

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answers to, I think is the cart in front of the horse. It'd be like, I'm going to buy this used vehicle and I'm going to take it down to this mechanic and give him two grand to tell me what's wrong with it. And I don't even know if this vehicle's for sale, and if it is, I don't know what the the owner wants for

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it. It it seems craziness to spend 70 grand upfront when we don't have the answers to it. Once we find out if it's for sale and it's within our asking price or their asking price, then yes, part of the due diligence process, spend

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the 70,000 during that period to see if we want to move forward with with the closing. >> I would still want to know. >> I mean, and that and I, you know, >> I don't know how else to get that number. I understand, commissioner, where you're coming from, but it's like a diagnostic test. You know, you take

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your cars to pet boys and your car is not working. >> But but it's your car. >> That's the point. >> But you need a car, right? And your car is worth 20 grand maybe. And you're going to pay Pep Boys 250. So now we

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know, we know, Jay, that we're going to need 1.5 million gallons of sewer capacity in the future. We know it. It's not a question. And we know it right now that right now that that cost is probably going to be about hundred million dollars. And if we spend 70 and

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beat it by half, I think that's a gamble you want to take. >> Diagnostic that you need. >> But you're spending 70 on something we don't even know if it's available for purchase. And if it is, they could be so far out there in left field, we wouldn't buy it anyway. >> So the the question of whether it's for

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sale or not, >> has we talked to Katroli? What's the >> we we have talked to trolley. >> Okay. >> They are going to ultimately keep or sell that facility. They have no intention although they haven't publicly

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said it of using that for juice manufacturing in the future. Right. >> And I could pontificate all over the place, but I don't think it would be appropriate in this setting. I've given you my best pitch on this. If you say yes, we'll get it with the note that if

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we see while we're doing this study that it's not going to happen, we discontinue it. But it's data we're going to need to make an informed decision on how we operate a $20 million wastewater system in the future, knowing probably in the

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next 15 years, you're going to need to expand. And we know today those expansion costs are going to be north, I'm just going to say 75 mil. So, when you talk those kind of numbers, 70 grand exploratory, I understand that's a lot

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of money, but we're dealing with a $20 million fund and we're dealing with assets that we currently have well over a hundred million and I'm asking to spend 70 on spec. That's my best argument. If you

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guys say no, then you say no. If you say yes, we'll get at it. I that that's the best information I got. >> Oh, no. Again, it's $75,000 as a city manager threshold of expenses. I could have signed off on this, but I brought

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it to you guys so we could have a discussion about it publicly before I did it. >> Just a couple brief comments. I'll be quiet. Um, when Catroli shut it down, yeah, they're not going to reopen it. I mean, I don't have a crystal ball. I don't I don't think there's a chance they're going to reopen it. Uh, the

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equipment sold. um they want it off their books. Everybody knows that. So, yeah, I think there's a little bit of gamemanship going on here. I mean, in my opinion, they want to sell it. They're going to sell it. But, uh and I respect I do understand Commissioner Kell's comments entirely, but I think we do need to understand the the value

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intrigues me. Um >> we can't even we can't even do due diligence on this topic without this report. >> Yeah. If they come out that's the thing. Now, if they come out, >> I can't I can't even begin to think how much is this worth? What's it going to cost without this data? So, I can't even

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study it without this data. >> Well, we'd study during their due diligence and if it comes back bad, then you you get out of the contract. >> If you'd like me to go get a contract with Catrol, you want to continue, you know, go do that. >> I want to know. >> Yeah. >> I don't even know what

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>> But but you know, and I don't want to talk about what that number would be publicly, >> right? Hey, what do you what do you want me all to float to trolley? >> No, of course not. Okay. No, of course not. >> Right. This is a this is a small investment for future potential of city the future city commissions saving the

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taxpayers possibly tens of millions of dollars and I respect the city commission city manager for bringing this to us and and I support this >> any further discussion >> commissioner Peterson >> yes >> commissioner >> yes >> commissioner >> no

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>> commissioner bur Yes, >> Mayor Barry. >> Yes. Um, moving on to our public hearings and non-rine items. During public hearings and non-rine items, the commission requests those in attendance res to respect the process

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and maintain order. As such, in accordance with Robert's rules of order, please refrain from speaking out, cheering, or applauding during these proceedings. Your cooperation helps ensure a fair and respectful hearings. Um, Grant, do we

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could you swear in anyone that would be speaking for the first and second? >> Yeah, thank you, Madam Mayor. I think we're okay this evening on the public hearings as far as that goes. >> Okay. Um then we're going to ask for if you would please introduce 6 A1 please.

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>> I'll introduce 6A1 mayor to be read by total only. >> An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida amending the boundaries of the Grace Groves Community Development District established pursuant to ordinances 24-33 and 25-67

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providing a severability clause addressing conflicts and providing an effective date. >> Move for approval. Second. >> Thank you, Madam Mayor. This is Dan Miller, planning and zoning. This is a request for an ordinance amending the boundaries of the existing County Road

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33 community development district, which was established, as our city clerk said. According to those ordinances, she quoted, "Properties generally located east and west of County Road 33 and south of the Florida Turnpike." Um,

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>> I think you're reading 6. >> Am I on the wrong one? >> You're 6B1. >> Grace Groves. >> We're on Grace Groves. >> I am sorry. I had the wrong page. I'm sorry. Let me start over. >> Same thing applies. This is for Grace Groves. Everything else is the same. This property is located south of Dewey

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Robbins Road and east of Bridges Road on Highway 27. Um, you may remember this is a where housing development formerly known as Bar Key property. contains 1,700 housing units plus commercial area. The CDD for this property was approximately 730 acres which

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encompassed the entire property. Um the the request is to reduce the size of the CDD from approximately 730 acres by 40 acres to about 690. The reason for the request is that in 2025 FDOT purchased

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land uh from the owners of the property. They needed some retention area and some work that they could do down here on that red area on the map um for roadway upgrades on the turnpike. So, they can't use it for the subdivision. It's going

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to be FDOT property, that red 40 acres. Um so, the property owners in the CDD board are simply requesting to realign the boundaries to reflect the correct boundary of the CDD. Uh the city commission has approved similar reductions and increases in the past.

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Miss Sarah Sandy from the law firm of QTAC Rock and Tallahassee is here if you have any further questions. >> Dan, is >> is this an option or I mean is this if if this doesn't get passed, state's going to take it anyway. >> I believe if it doesn't get passed, they

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still have an administrative solution that they could go through. >> Okay. Because I mean >> it's easier to go through this. >> This 39 acres is not going to reduce the number of the homes though. >> No, sir. Um it will >> it'll reduce the green space >> very slightly. >> Yeah. And there's a pond in there.

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>> Let me throw in too this was kind of always a the little tick of the parcel. They never really had plans to develop. They even visited us about whether we wanted to buy this from them for recreation and we never really could agree on price. So they formed the whole

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CD around it. But then now with DOT coming in. So, >> right, it's through no fault of the homeowner, uh, the property owner. >> Okay. >> So, by by them losing the 40 acres, they're still going to meet the green space requirements.

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>> Yes, sir. >> Calculated, the density goes up by onetenth of one point. >> And you're saying most of this was not usable anyway because >> correct. There's a a mule I forget the name of there's a pond, mule lake or

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something like that. Mule head. >> Mule head. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Any more comments from the commission? Any public comments? >> No. No public comments. Okay. Do a roll call, please. >> Commissioner Reeseman.

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>> Yes. >> Commissioner Conell. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. >> Mayor Barry. >> Yes. Would someone please introduce >> I'll introduce 6B1 mayor to be read by title only

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>> an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida amending the boundaries for the county road 33 community development district established pursuant to ordinance 25-58 providing a severability clause addressing conflicts and providing an effective date.

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>> Motion to approve. >> Thank you mayor. is also a change in the boundaries yet except for this time instead of reducing they're expanding. Uh properties generally located east and west of County Road 33 and south of the Florida Turnpike. There is currently a

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community development district out there that includes the preservation place subdivision which is on County Road 33 just south of the turnpike and it includes the banning ranch phase one and two. So, if you'll keep that in mind,

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they have the preservation place and the phase one and two of Banning Ranch. These are all the same developers. So, what they would like to do is combine this existing CDC by adding the Tiierra Vista subdivision slightly to the north plus the Banning Ranch phase 3, four,

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and five. So, it's essentially taking 441 acres going to 1143, which is an increase of 702 acres. And it all is will now be under one community development district for all of those. So right there, that's a good one. So

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right now it has the banning ranch one and two and the preservation place. They want to add Tiierra Vista, which is the light green, and the rest of the Banning Ranch, which is on the left. Um, so they're simply realigning it to be accurate. And since it's all that one uh

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developer being able to have one CDD, same things apply here. No change in density, no change in zoning standards. Um, it's a the separate issue from the zoning. And again, Miss Sarah Sandy of QAC Rock and Tallahassee is available

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for questions as well. >> Are all all three of these subdivisions you're saying are already approved? >> All of the subdivisions are approved. Yes, sir. >> Okay. What um does any of these three

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including the five different phases of Banning Ranch and the other two are any of those being the roads being maintained by the CDD as part of the u the approval process under the PUD

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>> that they had the they had the may so we can accept those. Yes, that's >> we didn't we didn't prohibit the dedication of those roads. We did not prohibit the dedication within the plat process. That's correct. >> On any on any of these >> That's correct.

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>> Okay. And >> the only time we we strictly prohibited it was on that last one we did for Brickhurst. >> Okay. >> Dan, this is first reading. When will it come? >> Um in two in I

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I knew every answer but that one. Sorry. I think there are some advertising requirements that we have to do. >> June >> June 22nd. Um there are some advertising requirements that the applicants have to

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meet. The city doesn't have to do anything on that. to nine routine items. Someone please introduce six >> resolution of the city commission of the city of Leburg, Florida appointing the

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Lake County unincorporated residential customer to the Leburg Electric Advisory Board and providing an effective date for >> approval. Second. >> Any comments from the commission? >> We had in the packet there was one

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applicant. So, uh, Is that applicant here or >> I was going to say is the applicant here? >> I don't think he's here. >> I think he may be out of town. >> He looked like pretty ought to be a good one for the board. >> He'll be a good one. >> Yes. Yeah. Well, he had a lot of experience in line, you know.

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>> He'll be a good experience. >> Did you Does do you know him? Commission. >> That is Andy Price with the uh lineman Museum and >> he owns a business over in Leburg as well. >> Yes. Over road. Yes. Any further comments of vanilla? Roll call.

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Commissioner Connell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Reeseman, >> yes. >> Mayor Barry, >> yes. >> We have no information reports. And

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see, Grant, do you have any reports for >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. I don't have any reports this evening, and I hope everybody has a a good evening and uh look forward to seeing you next time. City mayor, do you have any reports? >> No matters. Roll call. Commissioner Conell,

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>> nothing. >> Commissioner Bur, >> nothing tonight. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> just one thing. Um, didn't get much attention lately, but uh because it was approved on consent agenda, but we did approve the downtown parking and it's my understanding they're going to be demoing the partnership center of the arts building

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possibly next week. So, construction is about to begin. So, it's great for downtown. >> End of June. >> End of June. Oh, okay. Push back a little bit. Okay, that's fine. At least it's in the works. Okay. It's great for downtown. This will increase our parking from about a 100, a little over 100 to over 200.

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>> Commissioner Eastman. >> Yes. Thank you. I just want to let you guys know tomorrow is the home dedication for the Penn Street Habitat for Humanity. So hopefully everyone can come out. And then on Saturday there's a couple events over at the community garden. I think it starts at 8. We're going to be building some more uh things there. And then I think it starts at 10

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is the Leburg Police Department shred event in South Leburg at USB. So if you have things that needed treaded, bring it to the free event. That is it for me. >> Mayor Barry >> Bur Oh, I'm sorry. >> You

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>> um I have a few things I just would like to say. Um just look out for painting the city, turning the city of Leburg purple. The Rotary Club at noon will be celebrating their hundred years of service here in the city. And June 1st through the 30th, we will be lighting up

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Leburg with purple colors. And more details and information will be coming. June 1st, we'll be celebrating downtown. June 27th, we'll be having a 5K walk downtown as well. And we're asking everyone to please um participate and spread the word. And further information

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will be coming. Thank you. before you um >> um we have a new deputy senator, >> Andrea Clark. She started today. >> So very glad to have her. >> Yes,

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>> Andrea. >> There's nothing further. Oh, >> motion to adjurnn. Yes, please. Second. >> Thank you.