Okay, ready to go. >> Good evening. We will call this Monday meeting, February 9th, city commission meeting to order. Would you please stand for an invocation and our pledge? Heavenly Father, we come before you
today to do the business of the city. We ask that every voice be expressed and heard with dignity, respect, and understanding. Guide our discussions and our decisions so that we can continue to lead to economic growth, opportunity, and prosperity for our community now and
for generations to come. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> We have no proclamations today, but we have presentations. Will Chief Mara please come up here presented by the mayor and the city
commission to Joseph J. mayor in recognition of your 24 years of dedicated service to the citizens of the city of Williamsburg, February 4th, 2002 to February 6, 2026. Congratulations. [applause]
>> Oh, sorry. >> Sorry. cover. Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> And we'd like to call up Chief Henry. >> Chief Henry. >> Chief Henry, please come up. Yes. and
I'll turn it over to our city manager. >> Uh so so at this time um first I want to recognize we just did but I wanted to personally recognize Chief Meera uh for his time in the Leburg Fire Department. I think under under Chief's uh direction
uh we made a lot of advances um and and he spent a considerable amount of money. [laughter] I'm kidding. Uh I couldn't resist. No, but uh Chief, I think I speak on behalf of the city commission and the department head team. Really, thank you
for your service. Um you've been it's been a pleasure to work with you. Um and I'm sorry to see you go. >> Thank you very much. >> Having said that, uh we've already kind of on a staff level move forward. Um and because I not just I think uh in my time
uh through Chief Johnson uh prior to Chief Mara and then we brought on Chief Mea. Uh, I think one of the greatest things the Leburg Fire Department has done, uh, is to be able to groom and train their own. Um, hiring department heads, as you guys know, is a difficult
endeavor for your city manager. Um, but, uh, what makes it easy, at least in the fire department, has been, as well as the police department, h has been ready people who are available to fill in. And I think that redundancy that the chiefs,
the respective chiefs have worked on, it speaks credits to our organization and to the to this the status of our public safety. So with that, Chief Mera this evening has the honor to pin our incoming Chief Henry. So Chief Mayor,
take it away. Don't stick them. >> The badge only weighs a few grams. [laughter] The weight that it carries is impossible to carry at times. Keep my fireman safe. Can I punch in there or you want
So with that, I'd like to introduce to you Chief Henry. [applause] >> [applause] >> I'm gone. >> She's been trying to >> congratulations again, Chief Henry. Thank you very much everybody. >> And and before the mayor uh you guys
move on, I just like to also uh I'm having a senior moment. Nate Barlo. Nate Nate has also been promoted to our new deputy chief. So, with that, um, [applause] we have a we have a couple of probably
the the, you know, upward mobility's caused a couple of spots that we're going to need to fill, which I don't think we'll have any problem filling, but I think I think the department is in good hands. So, thanks, fellas. >> Thank you. >> Okay,
we'll move on to our consent agenda. At this time, the public may bring matters to the attention of the city commission. Please note that issues raised during this time will not be discussed, but your comments will be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration for a future city
commission meeting. If you are speaking about an item that will be considered later in this meeting, your comments will be heard during the public hearings. Each speaker is allocated three minutes. kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity
for all participants. Thank you. Are there any public comments? Seeing none, then we got one. >> Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. Please state your name and address. >> Thank you. My name is Simone Richardson.
I actually own a business downtown, um, Artist with a Purpose. We've been downtown for about 4 years. I just wanted to thank you guys for letting us do Soul Festival. Um, it was really good. Soulfest was awesome. Um, great attendance. This is our fourth year
doing it. Um, definitely want to continue to uh collaborate in partnership with you guys. Also, Artist with Purpose is now been selected for the Harlem Fines Art Show in New York. So, we will be going to New York in
eight days. Um, we were selected because we are the first blackowned art gallery in three counties here at Lake Sumpter and Marian in this area. So, I'm excited about being part of that. We have two artists that is also going with us,
which is Belina and Daffany, as well as myself. Um, we're excited to be part of Leburg. Excited to be part of the movement and, uh, can't wait to see what this year brings. So definitely we the Haitian festival and all those things that we do here is all about the
community and bring things together. So thank you. >> Thank you and congratulations >> Amy Bergen. >> Um routine items are placed on the the consent agenda to expedite the meeting. If the commission staff wish to discuss any item, the procedure is as follows.
One, pull the items from the from the consent agenda from the procedure is as follows. Pull the items from the consent agenda. Two, vote on remaining items with one roll call vote. And three, to discuss each pulled item and vote by
roll call. Are there any items that the commission would like to pull? Seeing none, may we get a motion and a second. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Second. Moving forward then we will go straight to our roll call.
>> Oh, roll call. Excuse me. >> Commissioner Connell? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Reeseman? >> Yes. >> Mayor Barry? [snorts] >> Yes. May I have someone to introduce their um purchasing items?
>> Oh, 6B1, please. 6B purchasing item. >> Oh, excuse me. >> Oh, our first reading of ordinance. Excuse me. Will someone make the will
someone introduce Can we combine the three together? 6. Can we someone introduce 6B1, 6B2, and 6B3? >> I'll introduce 6B1, 2, and three to be read by title only. 6B1, an ordinance of the city of Leburg,
Florida, annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 25.07 plus minus acres, being generally located south of County Road 48, east of number two road, and west of Tri Road, lying in section 20, Township 20 South,
range 25 East, Lake County, Florida. providing that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said city. providing that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had
been a part of the city of Leburg at the time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such annex territory shall be placed in city commission district 3 and providing an effective date 6B2 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the
city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain real property consisting of approxim ximately 25.07 plus minus acres being generally located south of County Road 48 east of number two road and west of Trippy Road lying
in section 20 township 20 south range 25 east lake county Florida and providing an effective date 6B3 an ordinance of the city of Leburg Florida changing the zoning on approximately 25.07 07 plus minus acres from Lake County R1 rural
residential to city of Leburg PUD planned unit development to allow for 75 single family homes for property generally located south of County Road 48 east of number two road and west of Trimpy Road lying in section 20 township
20 south range 25 east lake county Florida and providing an effective date Oh yes, these items are set to come back to the commission on March 23rd. Then we'll move on to the next. Yes.
Roll call, please. >> First reading. >> Oh, for our first reading. >> Yeah, it's just first reading. It's a small scale, so we don't need to have any motions to transmit to the state or anything like that. >> It's just it's that said.
>> So now you're on the >> Okay. I'm going to three. Yes. I was going to ask if Dan would like to stand up and give us an update, please. >> Yeah. And Madame Mayor, if I may, I'll
go ahead and swear everyone. >> Do you need to swear anyone in? >> Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. All right. Anybody here who wishes to speak on this item this evening, if you would stand and raise your right hand so we can swear you in. >> All right. Do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Good evening, mayor, commissioners. Dan Miller, planning and zoning. This is the Lake Margaretta phase 2 project and consists of an annexation smallcale comprehensive plan and reszoning to uh PUD. The site consists of 25 plus or
minus acres as you can see on the on the screen here. It's generally located on the south side of County Road 48 and east of number two road. This project is completely contained within the already approved Lake Margaretta project. The request is for future development that
would include 75 single family dwelling units. Again, it's just integrating into the Lake [clears throat] Margareta project because these properties were not owned by the applicant at the time the original project came in and when they came up, they decided to buy it and expand the project. The future
[clears throat] land use application is requesting a change from Lake County Rural Transition to City Estate Residential. The zoning application is requesting a change from Lake County R1, which is rural residential to city of Leburg PUD. [snorts] Excuse me.
Um there were no substantiative comments from the city department. The school board has reviewed it and said that they will need to um obtain school concurrency reservation and if there's no if there's not enough capacity at that time, the project will be subject
to a mitigation agreement. Uh Lake County Public Works had no comments and we received no written responses to the ads and letters. Again, it's 75 units on 25 acres. Uh no other uses, all single family, no other uses are permitted.
There are architectural standards 35% open space. Dark skylighting code compliant landscaping plan. Uh maximum building height is two floors. This it's basically an extension of the existing approved PUD. um [clears throat]
excuse me, 2.7 acres will have to be in recreational and parklands. There'll be u one primary park area with three amenities. There also uh this will also be part of the larger Lake Margaretta project. There'll be no wells or septics on the property. Uh it does have the
phasing standards that we use for four years which uh means if there is not substantial commencement brought about within four years the property has an automatic reversion to the RE1 zoning standard which is 1 acre per unit and
planning commission did vote to approve uh again second reading is March 23rd. The reason for the gap is that we have to have 30 days between first hearing and second hearing on a an annexation
for the advertising. And um Mr. Mike Rankin of Land Planning Group in Tavaris and Mr. Tom Daly of Daily Design Group in Orlando are here. They do have a presentation if you would like to see that. Thank you, Madam Mayor.
I got one just one question. Yes sir. Um so it's uh 25 three units per acre is what the middle. So what's the rest of the project? >> 2.98. >> So it's still it's within that same framework. >> Yes sir. >> Any other questions from Would you all
like to see the presentation? >> I can vote. Okay. I mean >> we don't do so. Okay. >> Okay. So now Yes, we go to 23rd. So, let's
The schedule date has been stated that we will bring this back on March 23rd and we'll move on to our non-rine items and there are none and
we'll go now for the information reports and we'll have from our city attorney. Ma'am, very quickly this evening, we had our hearing on the motion to dismiss for the shuffle board lawsuit. Um, I just got the order today. The judge did rule
in our favor to dismiss the complaint. Um, primarily based on their failure to attach the lease agreement they allege existed. Um, so we'll see. They've got 20 days from today to refile. And so we'll see what happens from there. We'll
have 10 days to file a response to whatever they file. Um, so right now we're waiting to see sometime between now and the next 20 days whatever gets filed and we'll go from there. Any questions anybody has about any of that.
>> That's all I got. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good job on that. >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate. >> And we now will have our city manager items if any. >> Uh, yeah. I had one item for you I wanted to get some direction on. Um, last meeting you all dealt with the
airport lease. um that was transferred. What what was the company's name? >> Aerostat. I'm sorry. And I get them confused with shelter. So Aerostat. Um so the Aerostat uh lease was originally issued to uh Mr. Pucket. Um he he has
since passed, but that was transferable to now is owned and operated by Miss Cochran. Um you had discussion about this lease at the last meeting and unfortunately the lease at that time had fallen into a state that where it was um
not in compliance with the lease terms. However, the commission really couldn't take any action on that because both parties the lei and the leour had issues they needed to cure. Our cure issue from the city was that we hadn't notified uh
the lei that she was in default of the lease by harboring subtenants that didn't have our approval. We recommended to y'all last meeting that before you did anything, we had to cure our end. We have now cured our end.
Um Miss Cochran through the city attorney has received formal notice that she was in default. she received formal notice that she needed to cure it uh the default situation by I believe it was Friday um which was Friday last week
which I believe was was that the 6th if I got the right date. Um as of this time frame uh Miss Cochran is still in default. Having said that, I do want to point out a couple things. I I will vouch for Miss Cochran. I think she's
taken efforts to remedy the situation, but technically she is still in default because the airplane parts still remain on her property. And even if the airplane is removed, technically she can still be held in default of the lease
because of the she's been notified of a problem and the lease stipulates that she had to be compliant. She was not. Um therefore I think I need some direction from the commission be uh and and can't unilaterally act on this without
direction. Um so as I see it I'm I'm here to get direction from the commission as to how to proceed. I think you have three avenues forward. So let me explain those avenues and then seek your direction on which way you would allow us to go. Um, as of I believe
today, um, the city attorney submitted to Miss Cochran formal notice that she's in default and that we will move to, uh, take back the assets and terminate the lease. That does have a little bit of a process. Um, so in the interim, here are
the options I believe available to the city commission. a move forward with the default um as Grant has submitted notice. Uh if you do that, the city then would take the asset, the lease would end immediately and you would own the
facility um pursuant to the lease. B um understanding that Miss Cochran did take some action to try to remedy the lease, you can you can determine that she is not in default. um even though
Grant Grant legally has stipulated that. However, it's still really in your court whether you want to proceed that way. So, if you all want to wave the magic wand and not find her in default, which the city attorney thinks she can, um you can wave that wand and you can offer her
the first extension that is in the lease. That is option uh proceed as the lease contemplates. The other option you may have is to kind of split the baby and find some middle ground. Um what would that look like? Um
I do think um that the city had encumbered a number of bad leases that we dealt with and tenants were able to get the benefits of 30 years of bad leases from the city. Um I do think the city has pretty much corrected most of
those situations. So how would you split the baby on this case? I would suggest that the way to do that is to divide the value of the asset over a 30-year period and seek a land lease uh from Mrs. Cochran that is more in
terms of market space. In so doing, what what would happen is uh Miss Cochran gets to enjoy the asset that they developed for a remaining 10 years. Uh but you all need to be kind of financially held whole. Um, so I think
that's done through a ground lease. So how do you get to that number? I would suggest that as I told the airport board months and maybe years ago, you know, cash is king. Uh, and cash still remains king. So what the city is out is an
asset that's probably worth in the neighborhood of about a half a million dollars. That asset is the um the obviously the hanger. How we have done these leases in the past is when we have taken the asset over at the end of leases uh we then sell the asset and we
get full value for that cash um and then the new lei would give us a ground lease. So in this case to split the baby you know time value of money plus the value of the building you know I would say now over the course of the
next 30 years instead of half a million dollars you know you go time value of money over 30 years perhaps now that facility is worth 750,000 if you divide that number by the square footage she uses that's about a dollar a square. So perhaps you want to consider
entering um is is suns setting the existing lease kind of as penalty for being in the fault. Enter into a new lease with Miss Cochran that would be a 10-year lease with most of the terms that are that are in there. Um like at
the end of the lease primarily the asset belongs to the city. Um a lot of the same stuff you probably want to throw in there that this lease is not transferable. Um, and she has a land lease of a dollar, which is $23,000 a year. So then she would owe, you know,
divide that by 12. Then she would owe the city about $1,500 a month in rent. I think that's the middle ground. I have not talked with Miss Cochran about these options. I don't know how she feels about it. Um, she is here this evening. I don't know if she wants to speak to
you. Uh, but I'm asking for direction on how you would like me to move forward with her. If I if it's A, we've got some administrative work to to terminate the lease. If it's B, then we need to bring forth to you the renewal option. And if it's C, there's some negotiations and
some conversations I have to have with Miss Cochran. I like the C option. I like the C option because it reasonably holds the commission whole and gets you um some value of that property, but it also allows Miss Cochran to keep her
asset. Um and assuming then she does subleasase out places, I'm sure she can cover her lease cost to the city very reasonably and and she still has a marketable facility there. So I think that's really a win-win solution. So
with that, I'll ask your direction. Yes. Go ahead. >> Um I like I like option C. I mean I'm okay with that. I mean our goal here when we defaulted it we we we've been consistent with other tenants out there uh to get the lease to market rate. Um so I like the 10 years of
non-transferable. I didn't follow your math entirely, but I guess my question is are we getting to market rate now? Because I feel like we we've done other tenants. >> Honestly, the let [clears throat] me let me back up a second on my math. Um, I need to double check my math. It's it's
it's rough, but I I think I'm in the ballpark. So, at a dollar a square, if that's what it And so, where I'm trying to go is the the value of the building time value of money divided by 30
because typically that would be a 30-year lease. That's how we would deal with that asset. And so, we're trying to get an annual value over 10 years. And so that's so that that's that's kind of the split the baby concept. I think my math is closed. At a dollar a square, I
will say that's well over market value for a ground lease, but in this specific case, um I think it's a reasonable request. >> How does it compare to the other leases we've saved we've redone in the last three to five years?
>> It doesn't. It doesn't at all. It's out of the box, but >> out of the box lower. >> No, it's out of the box >> as far as a performer goes. >> Okay. Because in the other leases, we came to the end of the term
>> and so we were the the the the deal sunset and I you know I think what confuses the matter is when those 30-year deals sunset the the the lessers the lees rather wanted an extension of a 30-year and what the commission did over
time was say no we're not doing any more bad leases so we created new leases or if we couldn't create new leases at market value then you know we took the asset and sold it. So in this case what's different is we haven't had a
lease that was in default. This one is. So this is an outofbox concept to to strike the lease and form a new one but trying to get more of a market value of the whole thing >> which is what we've done with other
leases that have expired in the last three to five. Okay. So I'm fine with C. I'm fine with C. >> It's similar. I I I think the concept of making sure the airport is held financially whole is the commonality. How we're getting there is different.
>> So, so I would agree with C. Uh but I would also uh want to make sure before we went to C that it gets in compliance >> all the all the things that we that it needs to and then option C is
>> understood. wouldn't want to go to C without it being in compliance. >> Well, would y'all like to hear from Miss Cochran? >> I'm fine with also with C at the dollar a square foot. I don't know what the math equals out, but that'll be on your end. >> So, >> and I think it's fair enough to split and go with C as well. Would you like
to, Miss Carlin, would you like to speak or share some of your views from what you've heard tonight? >> I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing you. >> Would you like to speak? shouldn't have to. >> Good evening.
>> Uh uh unbeknownst to me, >> I had no clue that I was out of compliance. I found out first I was out of compliance with the air by the airport manager which I immediately tried and
did get in compliance with the airport. Then I had no clue that I was out of compliance with the city until last commission meeting.
And in that in this two week time period, I have I had five days to have the leases take their airplanes out of the hangar,
the two that were turned down. I did not know that they were out of compliance at the time with the city at all. I was contacted by Sun Air
asking me if I had space in my hanger for Mr. Brock. They also gave me a price amount that I could charge him saying that he was willing to pay it.
The money did didn't mean anything at that point. Uh he said, not going to throw anybody under the bus, but he said that the plane needed to get off of the
tarmac or the space because every time they had a city event out there, the plane had to be moved inside. Mr. Brock has been paying Sun Air
for 12 years. He's had his plane on in either in a hanger or outside now. I've had him in there not 12 years. I mean, it hasn't been
that long. And all of a sudden, if I don't get him out of there in my hanger in five days, then I'm stuck. He has moved his airplane out, but it's
a big airplane. They have taken it all apart. Every part of his airplane, Chris Curry's airplane, is out of the hanger. The only thing left on the apron is the fuselage
right now. I spoke with him this morning and he thought he was going to get the what you call it from the FAA to get this the permission to I guess
put it on the road and take it out. And he told me that he would probably have that by Wednesday. Uh, Mr. Curry, I had no, he's my personal doctor. He's
a friend of mine, but I had no clue that he had a problem with the city with a different hanger. Uh, I never charged him anything because through the years he took care
of Lewis with his dementia, uh, all of his falls and surgeries and everything. So, and he's done a lot for me. He and his wife Gina, who saved my life when I collapsed. That's not the
point. So, I never charged Chris a single dime for him to work on his plane to get it flyable and get it out of the hanger. Uh, but he's out of there. He was out of
there last week. Uh, I don't know. That that's all I have to say. I hate Lewis has been in this business for 40 years. He built that hanger and by God it just tears me apart
if he were here and see that he would lose this hanger in Aerostat and he's I guess sold or leased or whatever other hangers that he's had on the airport. Uh
the one that Sunire has now and then the old bunker hanger. So, uh, that whole section he used to own and he had gotten rid of that. And but this one, uh, I don't know. I don't
know what to say. I'm worn out from trying to get people out of the hanger in five days. I from not knowing anything at all. So, I, you know, that's it. Mr. has been very nice and uh anyway, thank you
for your consideration. Uh the only thing I'm waiting for now is the the slip to move the fuselage off of the apron of the hanger. I don't know if you have any questions for me. I'd be
able to happy to answer any of them. I told Mr. meter that I wasn't going to talk because I've all talked out and I'm worn out. But anyway, >> well, thank you, Mrs. C. >> Thank you. I think I went over three minutes.
>> So, I'm I'm sympathetic to the situation, but this was a corporate lease that was assigned in section 23 of the lease does state that all subleasases have to be approved by the commission. So, I understand she may not have known it, but the corporation was aware of it. So, and I think the C is a
very good compromise on our end. >> I'm >> Yeah, I So, that's all in I just needed your direction. So, with that, you know, we don't need a vote or anything, but it it seems like the general consensus is to work um a compromise. So, I'll be back in touch. Tracy and I will be back
in touch with Miss Cochran. Um we understand your direction clearly and we'll report back to you at the next meeting. And I just want to add a comment that I added last last meeting u that the airport we're being consistent out there. We're not singling this this tenant out number one and the current
lease is a dollar a year. So I mean you we've got to get these up for the you know for the benefit of the airport. >> That's all. >> Are there any other comments? Okay, >> that's it. >> That's all. So um >> can we do a roll call?
Commissioner Peterson. Well, nothing tonight other than I'll just embarrass my daughter who's here attending. [laughter] >> Commissioner Reeseman, >> just a couple things. Uh, first I want to thank Chief Mera for his years of dedicated service and congratulate Chief Henry. Um, also I want to give thanks to
U Tracy Dean, our airport manager, and all of her hard work every day. But we had the food truck flying over the weekend and she did a phenomenal job organizing that behind the scenes and our tower. So, she's a great asset to our city and to our airport. And then uh just a couple things we have coming up.
I know special events has the movie night at Pat Thomas on 220 and then the red, white, and blues barbecue on Saturday the 21st. That'll be a great event. So come on downtown. That's all I have. >> Commissioner Connell, >> nothing. >> Commissioner Bur, >> nothing tonight. >> Mayor Barry.
>> Um yes, I have a few items as well I'd like to state. Um first of all, I'd like to stay explain my absence on January 26. I was in Tallahassee with the um legislative days of legislative action days and service and um I serve on the
municipal operations committee and I would like to provide a high highlighted summary of the visit. As you all know um property tax is one of the multiple bills that's been filed. Um and the proposal is to reduce or eliminate
property taxes would undermine the primary funding of cities. That would be our f financing for police, fire, and EMS, roads, and more. And no replacement revenue has been identified by the state as of yet, but shift costs or forces
services cuts at a local level. And we just wanted you to know what's going on for us where we are. And the next thing was sovereign immunity. That's one of the um House bills that was presented as well as local business tax and the
elimination the elimination eliminates the the local business tax will be eliminated for local business tax. Removes one or four municipal general revenue tax sources and recreates reoccurring revenue losses for cities.
And the other was natural disasters. That was a Senate bill and public meetings was a House bill. That's just a high um view and lots of conversations and I'm sure you all been hearing, but just continue to read and know the
importance of the effect that property tax will have with us not being able to have our basics police, fire, and EMS and services that we all need. Um, next thing I would like to say far as coming up, we have um February 27th um the
we didn't miss the announcement for the men of distinction. They're having their gayla that night on Saturday. And there's one more thing that I saw. I'm sorry. >> Yes. Yes. The Black Heritage um on
that's not until the 7th. Yeah. March 7th. So just to note and make a note of your activities and that would be it for me. Is there anything else or questions? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> May we have a motion? Thank you.
Thank you.