fees. Basically, growth covers the cost of the increased demand and Um, if we go ahead and do increase, it has to be within 12 months of the study that we just completed. And there has to be a 90-day grace period from
implementation to actually um the paying of them. So this slide references the need for incremental increases based on the amount and circumstances. And like the city manager mentioned, we believe that we fall under the
extraordinary circumstances provisions. And we'll get into that a little bit later, but this basically just tells you how you have to incrementally increase your your your your fees based on the findings of a study. So here we have other legal
considerations on on how we increase based on extraordinary circumstances and the requirements to do so. So for example, two workshops and the voting requirements to implement them. And here
we are at workshop number two. So we're fulfilling that requirement and then we'll get into what requirements will become forthcoming. So impact fee criteria basically what this does this just dictates what in
impact fees can be used for um capital cost growth in um re revenues for for increased capacity. Okay. though the methodology our our contractor did when they did our um
analysis they looked at our they reviewed our fixed assets and our five-year capital improvement they separated by water and wastewater each enterprise fund looked at treatment and transmission and looked at the capacity that we had
throughout the city and use our level of service based on 100 gallons per day for water and 250 gallons per day wastewater which is our basic eru that we use. Okay, here we have in tabulated format
basically what the previous slide just mentioned. Um it basically monetizes the infrastructure and the the capital improvements that that we we've done in the past. Basically, it gives you a
total what what what the total plant replacement value for each one of our fixed assets would be. Okay. Another another little bit of a breakdown. This is this is our our five-year capital improvement plans that that we sent to the contractor. It's
it's budgeted. It's in our budget. So, it talks about our major projects per per enterprise. So, the the water capital improvement projects for the next five years, we're looking at $56 million worth of projects. And in wastewater capital improvements, $71
million. A good portion of that is the phase 2 expansion about to be completed out at the turnpike wastewater treatment plant. And then just going again on the tabulated form. This talks about our current inventory of assets and
capacity. So we look at what we have. Well, the one slice said what we're building in the next five years. And this monetizes what we currently have and again based on the um level of
service of the 300 and 250 eru. Okay. This basically will tell the what the current impact fees are, the existing and the proposed based on the results of the analysis. So, currently
we're sitting at $1,175 for water impact fees and $2,778 for wastewater impact fees. The the results of the analysis are proposing we increase water to $2,039
and wastewater to $6,66. Wait, I take that back. $4,567. The two of those combined will give you the 6,66. So this is a graph and it shows you where the current impact fees set to the
far right where you see in red where the total is I can't read that should be about 3600 maybe okay third 35 3953 so just short shy of 4,000 we're
way low compared to um all our sister communities and then even with the proposed increases bringing it up to 6,66 for the combined water and wastewater impact fees. We're still right in the in
the middle of the road. A little a little left to medium, but still looking fairly fairly good compared to our sister communities. All right, this slide shows um all the municipalities in the region that have increase their impact fees within the
past two years. It's important to note that 16 of them have done so and and three of them have done so so far this year. So, this is not something that that we're doing on an island. So the implementation considerations we
have to look at is we're we're increasing them over the 50% like the city manager said. So we have we have options. We can use the standard maximum statutory increase and phase it in evenly over four years or we can pursue
the one-time increase through the extraordinary circumstances provisions which is what we're recommended. So what are those extraordinary circumstances? Um we feel the extraordinary circumstances
we we've been experiencing do justify the use of the provisions and essentially what it boils down to is the growth and increase in material costs and labor with regards to construction.
And the slide breaks it down a little little more detail. All right. So, that concludes the the presentation. What are the next steps? Um, we we've completed the first check there that says second extraordinary circumstance workshop. We've done that.
So, next up will be adopt the proposed impact fees at two ordinance readings, which will be the next two commission meetings, and that will help us comply with the Florida impact fee act requirements. And then after the second reading, we do the 90-day grace period
and then we'll be will be implemented. That is all. Thank you, Cliff. Any questions from the commission? Any questions from the public? Seeing none, uh we will I will take a motion to adjourn this meeting.
>> So moved. >> Second. Second. >> Meeting's adjourned. Our second meeting will begin at 5:30. Thank you. Yeah, I didn't get Thank you. Perfect. Somebody. letter.
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Thank you. It's Sweet. Stay. Hey J. We're going to call the Monday, August 25th city commission meeting to order. In the prior meeting, we've already done our invocation and pledge. We're going to move to presentations. Presentations.
Marina renovation project check presentation by Representative Cobb and Senator True. Now, if you guys have anything you'd like to say, then we can do the presentation. Thank you. Well, good evening everyone. >> Good evening.
>> Thanks everybody for showing up today to uh go over the issues that are near and dear to your heart. Um today we've uh got a little presentation to uh you know kind of ceremonialize the the $250,000
for this project. And you know we go to Tallahassee to do a lot of things. is we we create a lot of policy and we we do things that are supposed to make a difference in everyone's life. And I think that we we also have to go up there cognizance of of what we do with
money and how we can better serve the community with bringing those dollars back to Lake County or the city of Leburg in this instance. But I I think truly that projects like this that don't cost a lot of money but ha have a big
impact on the in a return for each and every one of us. You know granting more access and and giving us tools we need to better operate what we do here you guys do here in the city of Leburg. So we're happy to do these things because it matters. It matters to I mean, I grew
up right here in Leburg myself and I understand the needs and and and raised my family here in business and likewise. So, I I get it and I we all pay taxes and we all send money to Tallahassee and sometimes that money needs to have a
home and we're glad and we're we're proud to be here today to present this check to the city. >> Thank you, Senator. I will echo the senator's words exactly and I just couldn't be more proud uh to represent district 26
and to help fund the project for the marina. It's just down yonder across the lake and um it like the senator said it's what matters the most is what we bring home to our constituents and to the cities and you are our constituents.
So, we are proud to present to you today a check for $250,000 to the city of Leburg for your Marina Broke project. And don't forget your appropriations coming up. All right. Thank you so much. >> On behalf of the city commission, we thank you. And if we could get all the
commissioners to come around front for the photo. Thank you again to Senator Trunau and Representative Cobb. We'll move on to the certificates to the Miss Leburg winners. And before I call them up, I just want to say these young ladies represent Leburg, I think, better than
anyone in this entire city. They are at every event that I'm at, plus more. They are just doing so much for our community. They embody the spirit of Leburg and they truly love it and we are so blessed to have them and um it's an honor to present them with these certificates and uh we'll call you guys
up response. Shayen Shoemate. Oh, that's right. She is not feeling well. >> Abby Carlton. Sadie Stling. And last not least, Sage Herder. And Reese has a few words that she would
like to say. Good evening everyone. My name is Reese Ponds and I'm this year's Miss Leburg. Here with me, as you heard, I Well, Shayen couldn't make it today, but she's our teen Miss Leburg. And then I have our junior Miss Leburg, Abby. our little
Miss Leburg Sadie and our tiny Miss Leburg Sage. We want to take a moment to express our heartfelt gratitude for your unwavering support of the Miss Leburg scholarship program. This program is a nonprofit educational youth initiative that teaches the importance of
volunteering. It was founded nearly 40 years ago by the incredible Miss Linda Watts. Since its inception, the city the city has stood by us every step of the way, championing our mission to empower young women through education,
community, and involvement, and personal growth. And it truly is because of your support that this program continues to thrive. Without it, none of what we would do would be possible. Being part of this program has been nothing short
of life-changing. from forming lifelong friendships, yes, even with the mayor, to to seeing you, our commissioners, at nearly every event. I have felt a deep sense of community and support. Not only
this, but all five of us have learned so much from your example. You lead this community with vision, dedication, and heart. And through your leadership, we have learned what it means to serve others, take initiative, and give back to our community that
nurtures us. Your recognition of the value and impact of this program has not only encouraged us, but validated the hard work, hard work, dedication, and dedication of every young woman who has participated over the years. Your belief in this program and its mission has
allowed generations of young women to grow, lead, and give back in ways they never imagined. Through this program, we have been inspired to step into leaders into leadership ourselves, to serve our city through community service, and to make a
positive impact wherever we go. Your guidance and example show us that true leadership is not just about holding a position. It's about being present, encouraging others, and working tirelessly for the greater good. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Your
presence, encouragement, and continued investment in this program are the very reason it keeps going. We are so incredibly grateful to be part of a city that values education, youth development, leadership, and service. Thank you for helping young women grow
into confident, responsible, and caring leaders who are ready to make a difference in our community and beyond. Thank you. >> I I do have to say, and she mentioned it, but this program would not be what it is today without Miss Linda. Miss Linda, stand up. You deserve a round of
applause for everything you do for it. >> Thank you, ladies. Next, we will move on to the Special Olympics presentation to the city. >> Good evening. Thank you for your time today. This is our fourth year of coaching Special Olympic soccer and each
year we are faced with finding practice facilities. I am pleased to say that every time I've reached out to Travis for a location he has provided. We cannot thank him and his staff enough for accommodating our team. Our soccer program Leburg FC uh consists of both
team competition and skill competitions. This year our team placed third place in regionals. We had two athletes compete in individual skills and placed first and second in regionals. Uh those who competed in individual skills went on to
compete at the state level at Disney's ESPN's Worldwide Warwide uh sports complex. Uh both Evan and Colton received bronze medals uh in that competition. I want to thank you again
to our city manager and our commissioners for their support and continued support to our recreational facilities. Thank you so much. And we have um Michaela, do you want to give them the thanks? If if Travis is here, is Travis here?
>> Um we have one for him and then we'll give one to the mayor and then we have a certificate to present to you. >> Okay. And then here comes Travis right here. He's the man who made it happen. >> Thank you. >> And then maybe you guys can stand with
the mayor and we could get a photo. >> Take the photos. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you. All right, we will move on to proclamations. We have none. We're going to move on to public comments. This section is reserved for members of the
public to bring up matters of concern or opportunities for praise. Please note that issues raised during this time will not be discussed in detail during the current meeting. They will either be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration at a future city commission meeting. Each speaker is allocated three minutes to provide their
comments, kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity for all participants and to support the efficient conduct of the meeting. I would ask that this is for public comments. Anything that's not on the agenda tonight, I would ask that you would form a line. You do state your name and address for the record. And
everybody has three minutes. And before we begin public comments, if we can ask everyone to silence their cell phones. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. >> Good evening. I'm Teresa Connor, 910 Georgia Avenue, Leburg, Florida. I am
one of the um CRA community redevelopment agency commissioner and for the Cara Heights in Mount Clair area. I would just like to give thanks to the recreation department, Tim, and
also public works for Saturday for our community cleanup. Even though it rained and showered, we kind of worked in between that. So, I'm giving a big kudos to them with their assistance also with the Masonic
um and the uh Omega Sci-Fi fraternity as well along with the community. Thank you. >> Hi. Um, good evening, commissioners. My name is Lisa Hayden and I live at 35121 Dennis Road in Leburg. I'm here tonight with my neighbors who will be providing
additional documentation substantiating our concerns surrounding Treasure Trove. For the past three years, we have brought to your attention the chronic flooding and storm water failures at Silver Lake Point. These failures illustrate that the regulatory framework
currently in place is not enough to protect nearby residents and public roads. Our neighbors presentations will underscore the real possibility that Treasure Trove could experience the same runoff we witnessed at Silver Lake Point as well as what happened on Brit Road in
Mount Dora where inadequate storm water protections destroyed a local street leaving residents inconvenienced for over a year. These examples demonstrate that the risks are not hypothetical. They are happening right here in our area. Another concern is that the
original applicant, Jerome Hennon, who persuaded this commission to approve Treasure Trove, is no longer the one bringing it forward. He has entered into a memorandum of contract to sell to Southern Impression Homes, a company
that builds primarily build to rent communities. This was never disclosed when the application was presented. Effectively, this is a bait and switch where the city approved one type of development, one for homeowners, but another entity with
an entirely different business model is now poised to construct it. With this change, we respectfully requested the commission support the community by arranging a public meeting with Southern Impression Homes. It is only right that the people most affected should be able
to meet directly with the proposed builder, hear their plans, and make sure our concerns are understood before construction begins. In response to our storm water concerns, a 120 petition has been filed with St. John's River Water Management District
requesting a formal hearing to dispute the approval of Treasure Tro's environmental resource permit. We are again requesting Leberg's support in this manner as it will be Leberg among other parties who will ultimately be
called upon to address the shortfalls at Treasure Trove Stormwater Management. We are here tonight to ensure visibility of our concerns before all Leeberg officials. Although we hope that home does that harm does not come to our
community, hope is not a plan. And based on the failures that you will see documented here tonight, we believe there's a real risk that Treasure Trove development could inflict lasting harm upon our neighborhood. Thank you very much for your support. And I just have a hand.
>> You can you can continue. I need a presentation to >> This isn't a time to do presentations. This is public comments. >> I submitted a presentation to >> This is public comments. It's not presentations.
>> All right. I I will I won't talk about this is crazy. All right. Good evening. My name is Alan Chen, 810 Treasure Island Road. Like to talk about Treasure Trove as well. Uh supposed developer Hennon finally bought officially bought the property just three months ago for approximately $1.6
million but then flipped it to last month to Southern Impression Homes as mentioned by Lisa. Uh half of Treasure Trove uh property along CR44 is unusable wetlands and tiny 17th acre lots for highdensity housing are planned along with clear cutting of all the trees
along the road. So it's very very sad. Uh there are 12 other properties that will be directly impacted by Treasure Trove and possibly more since these two wetlands cross-hatched areas in my presentation are connected by a low-lying culvert. Uh we expect the combined flooding from Treasure Trove
and known flooding from Silver Lake Point to cause issues at both entrances along with hills of Leburg which also slopes down to the uh common wetlands and possibly flooding CR44. Again, uh, as mentioned by Lisa, we have
continuing runoff from Silver Lake Point that's been affecting CR44 into the lowerlying privately own wetlands for the past three years, even closing CR44 once. Uh, and I have an example of one of many examples of
runoff from just typical half inch to 1 in afternoon storms that actually cover CR44 and goes across the road. Uh for history, Treasure Trove was voted down twice by your planning and zoning committee 7 nothing and 5 to2. But despite that in broad opposition, you
still voted four to one to approve with only Commissioner Canal opposing. So after you were sold this bag of goods by Hennon, it will now be developed by yet another developer as Lisa mentioned. Should this even be allowed? All those prior discussions were with Hen, not
Silver Southern Impression Homes. So, who is liable if there's flooding issues on adjoining properties and roads in the future? Is it Leburg? Is it Hen's uh company? Is it Southern Impression Homes? Is it the HOA who inherits the mess? Or all of the above?
Also mentioned by Lisa, Southern Impression Homes primary business in the selling of homes as rental investments. This centers around property sales and management of those investment as rentals, their own websites as build to rent. Isn't it a bit hypocritical that the parent company of Southern
Impression Homes uh Sumitomo Forestry owns the property that would be cleared of all trees? In summary, flooding is a definite concern for this area. In addition, it appears that Treasure Tro will now just become a glorified rental complex is built to rent Leburg's definition of affordable housing and how
you envision this property development. At the Leburg Commission, we're aware after multiple grand dog and pony shows by Hennon that the only thing the developer really wanted to do was flip the profit property for profit after only two months of ownership to a bill
to rent outfit. Would you have approved this bait and switch? This needs to be addressed. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Miss Chen. >> Hi, my name is Louise Chen. I live at 8010 Treasure Island Road and I appreciate you guys so much. I just want
to speak to you about the East Treasure Island Avenue Road. It is one of the most beautiful whimsical roads in Lake County and in Leburg is an asset to the community. And if there could be a change made to the development where 100
ft was left, a natural native border was left along the road that would preserve the beauty of this road. This is one of a few rows where it has actually trees growing out into the street and it actually curves around the um it curves around the pond there. So, it's just
it's worth a drive out. So, anyway, take a drive out there and then decide for yourselves. Anyway, thank you very much. >> Thank you, Miss Chen. >> Good evening. My name is Loren Davyy. I reside at 8940 East Treasure Island A. Um been here before. Uh my fabulous
neighbors are looking out for the neighborhood and pretty much the surrounding area. My property backs up to this development to be go going in. Uh the Bayhead for the wetlands is right behind my house. Um ultimately if things
go ary my property will be the first to go. I don't know what recourse to take if that does happen. So, I really appreciate your time, you looking into it, and anything any support that you all can offer. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. >> Hi, good afternoon. Uh, my name is Ray Hayden and I live at 3 uh 35121 Dennis Road. Um, and this morning uh our group met with uh the senator uh Trunell uh this morning at his office and we spoke to him. Now during our conversation, not
to rehash that because it it was covered in the conversation before here, uh Mr. I senator Trun now actually mentioned that he has a an interest in the uh state the the county road 44 area and that kind of surprised me and and I inquired a little bit more about it but
it was for the safety health welfare and convenience ingress egress that 44 provides over there and that um the interest is in widening that road but the state is not going to take the hit on all that money having to be expressed for that. So, the county, the city, and
the state and the state are all going to have to take a part of it. Leburg doesn't currently own County Road 44, but because of the benefit that Leburg gets from it, um Leburg's going to have to um address that as things come up and
as that gets closer to fruition later on down the road. Uh another uh interesting remark is about the safety, welfare, and uh ingress and egress. during Hurricane Milton uh last year, I still am doing cleanup on our own property um from that
hurricane. And what happened last year was that both roads into where the Chens live down at the end towards the point, the point that goes out into the lake over there, Lake Griffin, uh that area was completely cut off. They couldn't get in or out. Emergency vehicles
couldn't get in or out. Nobody could get in or out until, like myself, my neighbors, uh, we parked our tractors out because we knew the hurricane was coming. We knew it was going to hit and like previous storms before, regular storms, by the way, would knock down a tree across the road. And we were going
to have to do something somehow somewhere to get that done so people could get an emergency services folks could get in and out. And that is our unofficial, nobody talks to anybody about it, but when a storm comes and the things go down, the homeowners, we jump on our tractors, we get out there and we
clear the road so that people can get through. I opened up two roads myself, my tractor and uh some other people ran around the other side and started cutting up trees and everything, even somebody who was just coming in to do work down on the point and then also to the gun range where AR's range is down
there. uh they went down there and I joined them again with my tractor because not only was that area covered with tree debris, it was also uh covered with water. It was flooded. That area, which has flood prevention uh canals all
around the properties to the west of it, was flooded. The people that lived there that were doing work on their house, they couldn't even get into their house. It was it was a little lake down there by Aries. So, the same thing's going to happen. And even our property, which doesn't flood, was flooded. So, what's going to happen when these waters just
continue to come on down? The original plan is not the plan that's being done and it needs to be addressed. Thank you for your time. >> Yes, Mr. P. >> Good evening. My name is Bill Pulk. I live at 600 Cascade Avenue in Leburg, Florida. I've lived here my entire life
except the time I was in the military. And I'm here to talk about exciting things. I really don't, you know, nobody's smiling up there except Jim Bur. You ought to be smiling because we got all these shuffleboard people here that want to play shuffle board and they're all excited about that. They
only come down here part of the time and leave their money and go back home. So, we already excited about that. They come down and play shuffleboard for a little while. Then they go back home up north and get in the cool weather again. But I've been paying taxes here since I was 24 years old to a house that I've owned.
And uh part of that tax money goes to the recreation department. And so we've been paying taxes to maintain the shuffleboard courts for 50s something years that I'm aware of. So you're offering to give a piece of
property away that I've been paying taxes on to help support and maintain for 50s something years and we have a group that wants to play shuffleboard and we're going to deny them of that unless you build new courts which I think is foolish. So, I think you ought
to maintain what we have, keep it going, keep the people happy, have them come down here and spend their money, enjoy Leburg, Florida, like everybody else does, and uh go about our business. We don't have to tear those courts up and put anything on them, and we don't have
to give them away. So, you know, smile, Peterson. It's all good, man. And appreciate your time. And I would like to get on the agenda sometime uh soon to talk about various things. I could send you a list of what I want to talk about if you'd like that. And I
think Alan's the one that's responsible for that. So I'll send Al note to get on the agenda to talk about other things that are important also. And appreciate your time and I hope you decide to keep our shuffle boards, keep them going, keep these people happy, make them smile
and come down and spend their money. Thank >> Thank you. And just We're not We're going to be respectful. There will be no clapping or cheering. And this is public comments for things that are not on the agenda tonight. Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Hi, my name is June Presley. I was a
north up here. I grew up here and I'm at 3175 Bright Lake Circle. It's out in the Oka area off of 33 and I grew up off of 48 West. Tonight I'm here to beg beg the commission here tonight the council if
y'all will please be mindful when we are having these first readings for the communities that are coming through that are again for the development uh the developers we we understand growth I want growth um but unfortunately the
infrastructure as of I think I was up here speaking maybe six months ago and I was talking to y'all about you know being mindful and what's our plan Um the road on 33 is just precarious in the morning. Um there are no turning lanes
on Highway 33 and so when you're trying to turn left to go on 470 where the turnpike is and I'm trying to go over to the villages uh to work. I'm at Middleton Charter School now and it's dangerous. Uh you can't you can't
there's no turning right, there's no turning left. It's just the center, you know, go straight. So you try to suck up as close as you can to allow people to get around you and then you're sucking up and now you're over in the lane where
these big trucks are now turning need wide turns. Now I'm in the way of being hit and then we have people taking their lives into their hands going into the little turning lane that goes into the post office and they're just jetting around the people and I mean it's it's
it's like the okay corral. Everyone is jocking for a position to get through 48 and 33. And so I'm just asking you all because of the fact that we have more developments from what I'm understanding and I was looking at an overlay and I was trying to count them all up. We're
looking at now, I believe, 15 20,000 homes that have yet to start and yet they've, you know, had that land sold and they've already made it through their presentations and now they're here. Two of them, I believe, tonight
are for first readings. So, I'm just asking you, what's your plan? because of the fact that when you get with the county, the county is going to ask you and you're going to ask the county and everybody's going to go back and forth. But, you know, we're just the little people trying to get to work. And I'm
not mad at y'all at all. I'm just praying that you'll help us with that. Okay? And the little post office there almost impossible to get to. So, uh, thank you so much. I love what y'all do and thank you for helping our community and please consider our little community out there. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Yes, sir. Joe Famasi 2693 jumping jackway. I'm here to talk to you today about the county charter. Uh I'm hoping to rally you to oppose it. Florida has been a history of selfhome rule and to me the
county charter idea threatens that idea. I hope that you recognize that you have a right to govern your own area. Under this county charter, the JPA could end up going away. You could end up not having a chance to
negotiate. Instead, you could just be handed and have to accept what they hand you. Roads. If the county decides that they don't want to pay for the roads anymore under the county charter, they could turn them over to you. And then you're going to be scrambling to try to
find funds to take care of these things. I really hope that you will consider asking them not to do a county charter and to respect your home rule. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you, >> Gary Kuster, 8909 East Treasure Island
Avenue, Leburg. Um, I'm going to bring up some old business. Last month, you passed a ordinance for uh food trucks. And in that ordinance, it says that the food trucks cannot use electric power
supplied by Leburg. They can't plug in. But for a special event, they're provided power. What's the difference? It could be the same people. Why are they provided power for one and not for the other? I went into planning and
zoning and asked them and they agreed. They said, "Well, if they had a letter, then we might be able to let him do it." In one case, the guy is owns the property where his food truck is and he's not permitted to hook up to his own
power in the building that he owns. That's not right. I would like to see it change that so these people can get electric power just like anybody else. Leburg's getting the money off the power. What's the difference? whether they're plugging in to somebody's power, they're paying rent at the places. It
just makes more sense to me if they have a generator running there 24 hours a day, somebody's got to be there monitoring the generator or it's going to grow legs. That generator will disappear overnight. There's no doubt in my mind. As far as the Treasure Trove, I
support everything that these people said. I live there during Melton. My front yard for the first time was flooded. That's the first time in 40 years that my front yard had water standing in it. And it's because of what
they did out there, preliminary work. They went in and logged out and they've created a road. U the one lady said that her property would be the first to go. Well, the problems all started when they created a pathway in there to log out
the the uh pine logs that were there. So, I would like to see that change in that ordinance so people are permitted to actually use power and for the conveniences that are provided by Leburg. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Custard. Seeing no more
public comments, we're going to close public comments. We're going to move to the consent agenda. Routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting. If the commissioner staff wish to discuss any item, the procedure is as follows. One, pull the items from the consent agenda. Two, vote on remaining items with one roll call vote.
Three, discuss each item pulled and vote by roll call. Are there any items the commissioners would like to pull tonight? >> Uh 5B1. >> 5B1. Can I get a motion to approve all the remaining consent agenda? >> So moved.
We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on the consent agenda. >> Commissioner Connell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. >> Mayor Reson,
>> yes. Would someone please introduce 5B1 to be read by title only? >> We have new microphones. Uh, I'll introduce as to be read by title only. Thank you. >> Resolution of the city commission of the city of Leburg, Florida, authorizing the
mayor and city clerk to approve the purchase and installation of a new video detection system from traffic control devices, Inc. and providing an effective date. >> It's motion to approve. >> You have a motion. >> Second.
>> Second. Discussion. Commissioner Canel. Uh, >> I just wanted a kind of an overview of what this is. >> So, would that be Mr. Kelsey? >> Good evening. This is Kelsey, public works director. So, Commissioner, basically what this is is we're doing some paving in that intersection, and
when we mill up the the ground, we're going to mill up the existing sensors that are under the asphalt. and the counties go into a video detection system so that when we mill up future intersections, we don't always have to replace those sensors. So, this is just
standard operating procedures from the county um so that we can we can pave that intersection and get it up to quality. >> Okay. So, we're not adding any more. >> Negative. No, sir. >> Thank you, sir. >> Any other further discussion?
Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on 5B1. >> Commissioner Bur. Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry. >> Yes. Commissioner Conell. >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman. >> Yes. We're going to move to section six, public hearings and non-reaching items.
During public hearings and non-reaching items, the commission requests that those in attendance respect the process and maintain order. Such and as such in accordance with Robert's rules of order, please refrain from speaking out, cheering, or applauding during these proceedings. Your cooperation helps ensure a fair and respectful hearing. I
would ask for our city attorney to swear in anyone speaking this evening. There you go. It's on. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. If anyone here is present this evening, would like to testify or provide any evidence on second reading item 63, Dilly Lake MF
and gas PUD resoning, 6 A6, Callos PUD resoning, or first reading item 6B5, Oakidge PUD resoning. If you would please stand and raise your right hand so you can all be sworn in. Do you swear or affirm that all
testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> All right. Thank you all, Mr. Mayor. All ready. >> Thank you, Grant. Would someone please introduce 6 A1? Actually, 6 A1, 2, and 3 to be read by title only.
>> Yes, I'll introduce uh it as be read by title only. >> Thank you. 6A1, an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, announcing certain real property consisting of approximately 24.43 plus minus acres, being generally
located west of US Highway 27 and north of Ronald Reagan Turnpike, lying in sections 6,7, and 12, township 21 south, range 24 and 25 east, Lake County, Florida. provided that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and
future indebtedness of said city providing that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of Leburg at the time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such annex territory shall be placed in city
commission district 3 and providing an effective date 62 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property
containing 24.43 plus minus acres from Lake County regional office to city of Leburg general commercial for property gen located west of US highway 27 and north of Ronald Reagan turnpike lying in section 67 and 12 township 21 south
range 24 and 25 east lake county Florida and providing an effective date 683, an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, changing the zoning on approximately 24.43 43 plus minus acres from Lake County PUD and to city of
Leburg PUD planned unit development to allow for the development of 300 multifamily dwelling units and convenience store with 16 fueling stations for property during located west of US highway 27 and north of Ronald Reagan turnpike lying in sections
67 and 12 township 21 south range 24 and 25 east lake county Florida and providing an effective date Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Dan. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Dan Miller, planning and zoning. This uh overall
proposal, excuse me, as stated, consists of approximately 24 plus or minus acres is generally located west of highway US highway 27 and north of the Florida Turnpike. It is a request for annexation, smallcale comp plan, and reszoning. Future land use on this
project is being requested to go from Lake County Regional Office to City of Leburg General Commercial and the zoning would go from Lake County PUD to City of Leburg SPUD which is small plan unit development. Under the background, the request is as
stated for future development of 300 multifamily units plus a commercial site along US27 which would consist of a maximum of 10,000 square ft of commercial space as seen in the conceptual site plan under the PUD
requirements proposed. This will consist of again the 300 multif family units which are apartments with a threef flooror maximum height and commercial development along US 27 that would be 10,000 square feet of retail uses. The site plan right now proposes
about 6,000 but they could max out at 10. There are no other uses permitted in the proposal under the design and architectural standards. There are the standard PUD architectural st requirements that will apply. There is a
list in the PUD zoning and you're the developer is required to select five architectural features from that list. The city will also be requiring dark sky lighting. Significant buffering to adjacent properties is provided in the PUB. 35% of the property must be an open
space, including a 25 foot buffer tract around the entire perimeter of the property and all of the landscape buffers must be maintained by the property owners association. There's also a requirement for a 4ft high earn burm along US 27 plus appropriate
landscaping on top of the burm itself as a visual and noise buffer. Bea or Bermuda grass is required in place of St. Augustine grass and there will be a landscape plan required during the plan review process. Uh city will be allowing
monument signs on the two parcels. Um we're asking for a maximum height of 25 ft on these and a base area of 80 square feet. Um, the reason we're asking for these signage, it's different from our standard codes, but due to the fact that
this is a high-speed roadway and limited with limited access, uh, staff does feel that a slightly taller sign is a little bit easier to see. In addition, the apartments will have a decorative entry feature sign of concrete, brick, or
stucco, no more than 5 feet in height on each side of the roadway. Under recreation, there is a requirement of a minimum of 1 four acres um which is will be set aside for various amenities including swim swimming pool clubhouse
building a walkway of a trail which makes the circumference of the retention areas on the retention pond on the south side of the development. There'll be a children's playground with play equipment and a separate enclosed fenced dog park. Uh as always there is the
phasing or expiration clause which requires that the development move forward with substantial commencement within 48 months or the property will have the automatic reversion to the RE1 zoning which is one acre per unit. In
addition uh everything here will have to be on city water and wastewater. So there'll be no wells or septic on the system. Um we have some folks here I believe Mr. Robbie Moon among them to speak to you if you have any questions regarding the project. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you, Mr. Miller.
>> Dan, what's the what's the density come out on that? >> It comes out, I believe, to about 13 to 14. I would have to go back and double check it. I didn't >> right because it's apartments. That's correct, sir. Would anyone like to hear the developer
presentation? I think we heard it first reading. Everyone's okay with skipping that. Would the developer like to say anything? No, you you're not. I'm okay. We saw it first reading. So,
okay. Um, any commission comments? Other commission comments? >> Just for clarification, Dan, I think I misread it, but on the commercial it says 10,000 square feet max. At first, I thought that was the site. I think you're referring to the building. Is that correct? >> That's correct. We're referring to the
building. Okay. Um, at the maximum building square would be 10,000. >> Any other commission comments? >> Only thing I would say is that's a that's a lot of units on 20 acres. >> Okay. Any other commission comments? Any
public comments on these items? Seeing none, we will have roll call on 6 A1. >> Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry. Yes. Commissioner Connell. >> No, >> Commissioner Bur. >> Yes.
>> Mayor Reese. >> Yes. 682. Would someone >> Motion introduced? >> It's been introduced. >> Motion to approve. >> Yeah. Sorry. Motion to approve. Uh 682. >> Second. We have a motion and a second.
Any commission comments? Seeing none, any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on 682. >> Commissioner Barry. Yes. Commissioner Conell. >> No. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Mayor Reason? >> Yes. Would someone make a motion to
approve 683? >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion in a second. Any discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none. Roll call. >> Commissioner Conell. >> No. To >> Commissioner Bur?
>> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry? >> Yes. May. Yes. Would someone please introduce 6 A4 5 and six to be read by title only? >> Introduce has to be read by title only. Thank you. >> 6 A4 an ordinance of the city of Leburg,
Florida, indexing certain real property consisting of approximately 90.28 28 plus minus acres being generally located west of US highway 27 and south of the Florida turnpike lying in section 12 township 21 south range 14 east lake
county Florida providing that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said city provided that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of Leburg at the
time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances provided that such annex territory shall be placed in city commission district 3 and providing an effective date 65. An ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the
city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain real property consisting of approximately 90.28 28 plus minus acres being journey located west of US Highway 27 and south of Florida Turnpike lying in section 12
township 21 south range 14 east Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 66 an ordinance of the city of Leburg Florida changing the zoning on approximately 90.28 28 plus minus acres from Lake County Agriculture to City of
Leburg PUB planned unit development to allow for a mixeduse development for property journey located west of US Highway 27 and south of Florida Turnpike lying in section 12 Township 21 South Range 14 East Lake County, Florida and
providing an effective date. Motion to approve 6A4. >> We have a >> second. >> We have a motion and a second. Thank you, >> Mr. Miller. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The background on this project, this is an annexation large scale comp plan and
reszoning. The site consists of 90.28 plus or minus undeveloped acres. This site is generally west of US Highway 27 and south of the turnpike. So, it's in the same general area just on the other side of the turnpike. The request is for future development of warehouse office
educational and residential uses. So it's a true mixeduse project. Project is being sought by Kaos Services which is a local company that provides services in the AC, plumbing and heating industry. Their intent is to create a new headquarters for the business. Kaos
currently employs about 300 people. Uh in discussion with the applicants, I wanted to note that if approved, this proposal will add at least 50 jobs directly into the Leburg business community. So again, it's under the overall proposal, we're looking at 90.28
acres. The comp plan request is going from Lake County Regional Office to City of Leburg General Commercial, and the zoning request would go from Lake County agriculture to City of Leburg Planned Unit Development. Under those PUD requirements, the proposal consists of a
15,000 square foot training center, two floors in height, 16,000 square foot office building, and 32 apartments in two separate buildings. Again, two stories in height. So overall, the permitted uses, warehouse, office, educational, medical,
veterary, vehicle services. We even threw in sports academy and houses of worship to try to round that out to get as many uses as possible. The development standards would be under the C3 highway commercial zoning district unless amended in the PUD document in
some way. Under design and architectural standards, the architectural requirements from our code in chapter 25 section 360 would apply this in a very similar way they do to all other PUDs. We do have the dark sky lighting
requiring requirement. Um there's significant buffering to adjacent property that already exists on the site because there is significant wetlands around the property. And in this case, these wetlands provide a natural buffer. So we didn't have to do too much on the
buffers. And in addition, the wetlands are not disturbed by this proposal at all. Um of course, bea or Bermuda grass is permitted, but not St. Augustine. We'd like to do the same um request on the signage for this project that we did
on the previous uh the previous project where we'd have a 25 foot height maximum and eight 80 square feet to still be a a monument style not a pole sign but it would be 80 square feet per sign face. Um again with the high-speed traffic
moving in that direction a little bit higher but not too high we think is a safer option. Uh again, all the development must be on city water and wastewater. So there's no wells or septic on this property. And the standard um expiration or phasing
clause, the sundown clause, so to speak, applies. So that if there's no forward movement within to a substantial commencement level within four years that the property has the automatic reversion to the RE1 zoning standard, which again is one acre per unit. uh
planning commission did recommend approval on this project and I haven't seen him yet but I believe Mr. Darcy Unro is here for any comments you may have. >> Thank you Mr. Miller. I know we also saw this presentation at first reading. Would anyone like to see the presentation? >> I do have a question for Dan.
>> Yes, sir. >> Dan, is there does a PUD does the PUB give a maximum of dwelling units that could be put on there? >> It states that there are an allowance of 32 and that's >> that would be the max. Yes, sir. Thanks, sir.
>> Anyone care to see the presentation? I know we saw first reading. Okay. Any other commissioner comments? Any public comments on this item? Would the developer like to say anything? >> If you have public comments, we ask that you come to the mic.
Please state your name and address for the record. And you have three minutes, ma'am. Thank you. >> Good morning, commissioners. Um, Evelyn Gould, 312 Nebraska Avenue, Leburg, Florida. I just have a question. Uh, just a little bit a clarification or
expansion on the educational purpose of this project. I know you mentioned the training center, but just trying to get a little bit better idea of the educational. >> Thank Thanks for the question, Miss Gould. Um, we could because of the way
the site is laid out, we could put a various types of education in there. The intent was really for trades education, that kind of thing that uh the kaos business would be uh bringing in young people and working with the hopefully
with the high school and things like that. But uh we can we can expand on that quite easily within the within the confines of the PUD. And so I wouldn't have a problem with a private school or something like that. >> This would be just education for their
business. education. Yes, sir. >> Okay. If if if what I'm saying is if you would like to for us to ensure that things such as private schools, kindergartens, daycare, we can make sure that's in there. Be a good idea. >> If the developer is not opposed to it, I don't know how the commission feels.
>> You're saying the developer is not asking for those things. Um, they did ask for the they did want the education because they have to train some of their employees and but they I I see no reason to for them to object to adding private schools and things like that as well.
There's no no harm in it. >> It's a hard site to develop. That's why we're trying to add as many possibilities as we can. >> Okay. No, thank you. I had a question from earlier. I was trying to look it up. Um, did you say the sign was 25 feet tall?
>> Yes, sir. It would be 25 ft max to sign out front on the roadway. Okay. >> In height. >> I'm not going to seems a little tall to me. You know, I understand the basis of it. >> Yes, sir. Our standard right now is 12. >> And that came about I think in 2004 or something like that. >> I think it was eight. So,
>> it depends on the the type of the roadway. If you're on a large roadway, it's 12. And at high speed, a 12 can be tough to read. >> Okay. No. Thank you, Dan. Any other commission comments? >> Yes. No. Any public comments on this item? Seeing none, roll call on 684.
>> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Connell, >> yes. >> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. Someone move for approval on 685. Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve 685.
>> Any discussion from the commission? Second. Any commission discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on 685. Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Conell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bry, >> yes. >> Mayor Reason,
>> yes. >> Someone do a motion to approve 686. >> So moved. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Barry. >> Yes.
>> Is that Barry or Bur? >> Barry. >> Yes. Commissioner Conell. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur. >> Yes. Commissioner Peterson. >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman. >> Yes. Would someone please introduce 6 A7? When introduced and has to be read by title only. Thank you. >> An ordinance of the city of Leburg,
Florida adding a PDO plan development overlay with a waiver from section 25-282 parenthesis a parenthesis 1 PDO 5acre minimum to the existing three C3 highway commercial zoning on approximately 0.48
48 plus minus acres to allow for a duplex use for properties generally located west of Vista Avenue and north of US Highway 441 lying in section 23 Township 19 South Range 25 East Lake County Florida and providing an
effective date. >> Thank you, Andy. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Dan, anything you'd like to >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, excuse me. This is a request for a plan development overlay which will allow duplex unit on
two different lots of so it's two separate lots of be building two two duplexes. Property is generally located on the west side of Vista Avenue which is north of 441 out towards the mall. The z the current zoning of the entire area out there is C3 Highway commercial. So a conditional use permit is required
for a duplex dwelling in the C3 excuse me. Um there's a mix of uses in that neighborhood. Staff doesn't have any issues with it. Planning Commission voted uh approval. >> Thank you, Dan. Any questions for Dan? Seeing none, any public comments? Seeing none, roll call on 67.
>> Commissioner Connell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Maya, >> yes. We'll move to first readings. Would someone please introduce 6B1? >> I'll introduce be read by title.
An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida. Amending chapter 17, pensions and retirement, article 4, police officers retirement fund, of the code of Ordinances of the city of Leburg, by amending section six, benefit amounts and eligibility, and section 28,
deferred retirement option plan, providing for codification, providing for severability of provisions, repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith, and providing an effective date. This is a first reading and Olay over till September 8th. Are there any commissioner comments?
Seeing none, any public comments? Seeing none, will someone please introduce 6B2? >> Introducing has to be read by time. Thank you. An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, amending chapter 17, pensions
and retirement, article 3, municipal firefighters pension of the COD ordinances of the city of Leburg, by amending section 1.1, definitions. Section 1.3, participants contribution account, section 2.2, normal retirement
and retirement income. providing for inclusion in the city's code of ordinances, providing for severability, repealing all ordinances in conflict herewith, and providing an effective date. >> Thank you. This is also a second reading and will lay over till September 8th. Are there any commission comments?
Seeing none, public B3, >> four, and five. >> Introduce 6B345 for title one. >> Thank you. 6B3 an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, annexing certain real property
consisting of approximately 596.29 29 plus minus acres being generally located east of county road 48 and south of Ronald Reagan turnpike lying in sections 28 29 and 32 township 20 south
range 24 east lake county Florida providing that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said city providing that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as
if all such territory had been a part of the City of Leburg at the time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such annex territory shall be placed in city commission district 3 and providing an effective date. 6B4 an ordinance amending the future land
use map of a comprehensive plan of the city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property containing 596.29 29 plus minus acres from Lake County Rule to City of Leburg estate residential for property generally
located east of County Road 48 and south of Ronald Reagan Turnpike lying in section 28 29 and 32 township 20 South range 24 East Lake County, Florida and providing an effective date 6B5 an ordinance of the city of Leburg,
Florida changing the zoning on approximately 596.29 29 plus minus acres from Lake County Agriculture to City of Leburg PUD Planned Unit development to allow 912 single family attached and detached units for property generally
located east of County Road 48 and south of Ronald Reagan Turnpike lying in sections 28 29 and 32 township 20 south range 24 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date. >> Thank you Andy. This is also a first reading and it will lay over till
October 13th. Dan, >> thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is an annexation large scale comp plan and reszoning on 596.28 currently undeveloped acres. Generally, the property is located east of County Road 48 and south of the Florida
Turnpike. The request does contemplate um 910 attached and detached single family residential units units with their associated amenities. Um again slightly under 600 acres. The comp plan application is requesting a change from
Lake County Rural to City of Leburg uh estate and the zoning application is from Lake County agriculture to Leburg City of Leburg plan unit development. Under the PUB requirements, again, 910 single family units split into two home
types. The first would be 642 detached single family units and the remainder 268 would be villa units, which we would commonly call duplexes. Uh, no other uses would be permitted. So, there'd be 268 villa units on 35
foot lots, meaning each side of the villa. So you get a 70ft lot for one villa and a minimum house size of 1,200 square f feet. On the detached units you'd have 37 of those would be on 70
foot lots 46 on 60 foot lots and 559 on 50ft lots with a 1,800700 and500 square foot living area under roof descending in that order. Um, under design and architectural standards, they
are required and as shown in the exhibits with two floors as the minimum height and two off- streetet parking spaces for each unit. 35% of the property must be an open space. We do have dark sky lighting, trees required in each yard, 25 foot landscape buffer
required along the entirety of the property except where there is it is not needed due to existing wetland areas. There's a three-foot burm with a 4ft fence on top of the burm along County Road 48. There's also a fence along the perimeter except where there's a burm or
wetland present. Um sidewalks are required throughout the development. Again, Bermuda or Baja grass are permitted. Uh access is as shown on the site plan along County Road 48 and it will be required to install all of the applicable requirements for turn lanes,
excel, del lanes, etc. as Lake County requires and our PUDS are written to support Lake County in that fashion. Uh the main access point would be a boulevard type roadway landscape median at least 8 ft in width and enough lane area for emergency
vehicles to maneuver. Again, a decorative entry feature for signage at least 5 feet in height on each side of the roadway on the entryway or the sign could be in the middle of the landscape median at the boulevard entrance. There is interconnectivity with the adjacent
subdivisions as shown on the site plan. 4.8, excuse me, 4.18 acres of the property will be required to be designated specifically for recreation uses which includes a pool, cabana, children's playground, dog park, and a
walking nature trail designed to blend into the neighborhood and the wetlands areas. Uh again, utilities are required from the city. So there can be no wells or septic on the property. The expiration phasing clause, which you're familiar with, uh within 48 months is in
this one as well. The automatic reversion to RE1 zoning. Um Mr. Logan Opsel of Lounge, Dostric, Caner, and Reed of Orlando is here to answer any questions you may have. Um
believe we have this one. This one will go to uh the state of Florida Department of Commerce and currently we have it scheduled for October 13 I believe is the second reading. >> Thank you Dan. Any questions for Dan from the commission? >> How many how many units then?
>> Um it's showing 910 >> 910 units. >> Yes, sir. Very large. >> Thank you. Any other commissioner comments? Would the developer like to come up? >> Is Mr. Obsel here if you'd like to? He's on his way, mayor.
>> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> Good evening, Logan Opsall, 215 North Yola Drive. Uh, good to be with the commission today. I have a brief presentation and with the change of venue, I'm not sure if we're able to put it up. Okay, I see it's coming now. >> Great. I'll be very brief, but I I do
want to note that we have representatives from the applicant team, traffic engineer, environmental consultants, project engineer, um, and applicant representatives. So, I'll be brief with your time so we can stand for any specific questions you have. Uh, my presentation largely contains a few maps
and, uh, amenities and items that this project will include. So, as you can see, this is the boundary map from the city of Leburg. property is bounded uh to the north, south, east, and west by city of Leburg uh property.
This is a look at your future land use map. And finally, zoning. So, surrounded by other planned unit developments and of course the age restricted uh what's referred to as secret promise development is across 48.
Similar to the PUD map, these are other approved uh projects in the area. The proposed project before you uh contains a 1.53 dwelling unit per acre density count. Previously, this property was used for sod stripping and some cattle
operations. You can see from this aerial the sod stripping uh exercises which uh we've noted uh have some drainage and runoff issues. uh as you may imagine from that from the
nature of that business. Uh so part of our project will also have some wetland creation and much wetland uh preservation which I'll touch on in a couple slides here. It's fully amenitized, so lots of multi-use trails, nature trails, parks,
activity center, pool. Uh Dan touched on that in staff presentation. Uh we did have a community meeting some months ago uh which addressed things like the clustering of uh units across the property in the upland portions which you saw in the aerial and then again
preservation of the wetlands present on the property. The PUD ordinance before you has the standard 35% minimum open space. This project will account for up to 70%. Uh it's at 70%. Um, and during
that community meeting project, we also specifically talked about these nature trails. There's a portion of the project on the eastern side that uh protrudes out into the lake slightly. One specific ask was that the nature trails not be
included on that portion, which the applicant uh is happy to accommodate. Here's a look at the again where the wetlands are are preserved. That's that 70% open space. Um, also around the wetland area that will have the natural
vegetation, there is some wetland creation and expansion on the property. Uh, you you heard me note uh on the sod stripping operations. A lot of that's just draining out. And so with this wetland enhancement, we'll be able to filter that again through the natural vegetation around those areas as well
properly uh filter uh that runoff and wetland surrounding areas as well. Continuation of this slide. Uh promoting again the natural vegetated buffers, enhanced storm water treatment, preventing that runoff that we see in
the current condition, additional habitat for wildlife as well. Importantly about this project is just the amenities, the focus on the nature, passive recreational benefits, the trails and boardwalks which we outlined. We'll also include educational signage
and neighborhood parks. Um there is a current upland kind of island and older tree in the area that will be preserved as part of the uh history of the site uh as well. With that, I'm happy to answer any specific questions the commission has and thank you for your time.
>> Thank you, sir. Any questions from the commission? >> Seeing none, any public comments? If you would please come up and state your name and address for the record. Yes, ma'am. >> I'm sorry to be up here again. Evelyn Ghoul, 312 Nebraska Avenue, Leburg,
Florida. Uh, it's been a while since I've been to these meetings, but um, just listening today to all this plan development that's happening around us. Um, here's my one question. I go back to the fact that I am a school teacher in Lake County and I wonder like what is the impact to our schools? How is that
being handled? Um, is that even being taken into considerations? I mean our classrooms are already full. Our other schools going to be built to accommodate. Um I know the plans are great. The vision is great. Uh I believe in uh you know you make the vision, you
make it clear, you build it and they will come. Um and when they will and when they come, how will we handle all of that and what is in place for schools and for children? >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
Thank you, Miss Gold, for that question. Um, as a part of the review process during the zoning, all of these projects are shipped out to Lake County, particularly in to the Lake County School Board where they do a what's called a concurrency review. If if there
are enough stool stations within the specific school, and that changes from year to year, but if there are enough school stations, then it passes. If it does not pass, then the developer must get with the school board and do what's called a schoolboard mitigation or mitigation agreement. And that
essentially boils down to a cash payment to the school board based on the number of students that are anticipated being made by that number of houses. So they have a formula and you this commission has seen a number of those uh approved agreements and on one like this it would
run into the millions. I'm sure multiple millions. >> Thank you, Mr. Yes, ma'am. >> June Presley, Clearwater Reserve. Um, so I just wanted to see if we could pull up that one picture that you had up there
at that slide and it showed um the area that Jun out into the wetland. Would that be okay? >> Sure. >> Okay. So that green section there where the where the purple nice little rectangular section that jutes out into the wetland
area. I just wanted to make sure for the record that they will not be putting a a nature walk or anything that goes out into that area because as of now we are receiving every type of species that's
never been out there in our community. Um and I grew up on 48. So um we have more hog than we know what to do with coyotes. Um I'm having to get rid of the coyote. Um, we have so many. We have
Bear now. We have Beyond Deer. We have everybody showing up. So, all of this is going to now create more movement. And that's the other thing we're saying, well, how are we supposed to handle the infrastructure just from the animals? So, uh, it's beautiful community and as
long as you're not planning on putting, please a boardwalk out into that area, you know, I'm I'm happy. I don't live on that side. I live on the what we call the island um which goes across and it's directly across from this. Um and we are
on the water but um it's natural. Everything's natural. We don't touch anything out there. Um it's a great airboat lake. So u but that's about it. It's not really a lake anymore. It's just a marsh. >> So thank you very much and I hope that you'll consider that. Thank you.
>> Thank you ma'am. >> Yes, Mr. Pope. >> Bill Pope 600 Cascade Avenue. Dan, you said there was 5 acres of recreation available for that. >> You got 910 homes. You got 5 acres of recreation. Is that enough for at least
for them? I don't think so. I We got more than 5 acres out of Sleepy Hollow. And you got And I'm very familiar with that property. I don't think the sod was a problem with the uh with the water runoff. That was a swamp out there to start with. I used to fish and hunt and trapes all over that place. It's got
more wetlands than described. I mean, this sounds like smoke and mirrors to me. I mean, you know, it's a it's a beautiful thing to 900 homes out there on that swamp is going to be a lot of homes. So then and then if you go back to the traffic people that people been talking about traffic all night, you got
at least 900 more cars coming down 48 and 33. We can't support it. Thank you. >> Any other public comments? Seeing none, we'll close public comments. Would the developer like to say anything else? Yeah, I'll just briefly state the PUB
does have a a minimum requirement for recreation. Much of this property does have wetlands, which is why you have the property organized the way it is on the site plan before you. The boardwalks, nature trails, those things are meant to to act as an amenity and enjoy that natural state. Thank you.
>> Thank you. This item will lay over till October 13th. Uh 6B4 will need a vote to transmit to the state. So moved. >> Second. We have a motion and a second to transmit to the state. Any discussion?
>> Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Connell, >> no. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Mayor Reman, >> yes. We'll move on to 6C, non-rine items. Would someone please introduce
6C1? I'll induce has to be read by Tylon. Resolution of the city commission of the city of Leburg, Florida, approving the donation of certain real property owned by the city of Leburg, located at 309
South Palmetto Street, Leburg, Florida 34748 and identified as parcel ID number 26-9-24-3300-0000-34 to Ford House Foundation, Inc. and authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute a special warranty deed to
transfer the property reserving a utility easement, ingress and egress easement and parking easement providing for conditions and providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, Andy. >> Move for approval. >> Second. We have a motion, a second for
approval. Uh before we begin, both applicants did submit a proposal. If each applicant would like to present their proposal, we do have those. Uh just one app one person per applicant, please. If you would, you can come up and you can go over your proposal if you
so choose. You can. Yes. And then if one one person from the shuffle board just just in the thousand foot overview, uh we're uh proposing continued access
to the shuffleboard courts on Palmetto Avenue with a little money from the city to refurbish those courts and and make them all they can be. That would include the 22,000 for resurfacing the courts, some additional shade cover uh to keep
people from falling over mid tournament. Uh you know, we we've got an international draw potentially and with a minor investment from the city, we could bring people in from all over the state, all
over the country and internationally. Uh we would appreciate your support in this matter and look forward to the continued use of the courts. Thank you, Mr. Cler. >> I'm uh Jacob Bonning. I'm the president of uh Forward Paths, and our proposal is
um to build 10 tiny homes. They're each two-bedroom um one-b homes um very similar to the cottages on Grove that we built in Eustace. Um so this will house a total of 20 youth. um that we serve um
with our nonprofit. Um we serve um youth who have aged out of foster care or who are at risk of homelessness. And um in addition to the um 10 tiny homes, there will be a storage building um with um additional storage um for the
houses. And I know that the city um has requested to um take over the street which is part of um the lot currently. uh Woodward is included in the boundaries of the lot and um potentially
an additional 30 feet of space um coming off of that street for additional parking that the city can use for u future recreation perhaps pickle ball or um some other kind of recreation in the area. So um we are willing to um subtract that. I think it's about 50
feet from the north end of the lot um for the city's use. So that will um provide us um enough space for we think about 15 parking spaces um for the homes um which um when we built the tiny homes
in Eustace um they did tell us that we needed two spaces per home. So that's 20 spaces that we need. So, um we would need to share some of that city parking um technically um for these homes, but really we won't because mo most of the youth in our program do not have
vehicles. So, some of them do, so we will need some parking for them, but the 15 spaces that we've allocated should be adequate. Um there's been some confusion over um that we're also taking over the tennis courts and we're not asking for anything from the tennis court site. Um, and
we're also not asking for any of the city's budget to be applied to this building project. Um, we will fund the project on our on our own entirely. Thank you. >> Oh, no. So, just just so you know, we're
going to be respectful of both sides and as I said earlier, no clapping, cheering, or applauding. We're going to be respectful. So, no matter if you're for one or the other, we're going to be respectful. Um, I would ask we're going to open it up for public comments. If you would, I would ask that you please
form a line, state your name and address for the record. I would ask to refrain from being repetitive in your comments. Um, and I will you have three minutes and we will be adhering to that three-minut time frame. Yes, ma'am.
>> My name is Dr. Margaret Denk. I am the clinical director for Forward Paths. Um my address um is 31600 Camp Challenge Road. I live in Sarrento, but the business address would be here um in Leburg for business purposes um on Main
Street and the good that the tiny homes can do for our youth. Um, while I can certainly appreciate the need for recreation and the ongoing um
need for um space for people to continue the shuffle board. And that while that is important, we are talking about a crisis of young people who are unhoused, who are in desperate need of a place to go. and
so respectfully ask that that become the primary consideration as we move forward with this. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I would ask that the talking be kept quiet, please, so it's not disrespectful and it's easier for everyone to hear. >> Mr. Bulock.
>> Uh hello, uh Robert Bolick, 1206 South 8th Street, Leburg. Um the city commission has not done their due diligence in evaluating this land for current and future use for parks and recreation. This item should be tabled for until proper evaluation can be performed. The
city commission should not proceed with giving this land a ford path or any other organization until such evaluation is completed and brought back to for to the community for decision. I understand the city has given land away to other organization in the past. I do not know the circumstances behind this. Uh
therefore I have no comment. I was informed the city has attempted to give forward paths land twice now and both those parcels were rejected. one located near Barry Park on Beecher Street and the other located near Carver Heights Recreation Center on Griffin Road. The reasoning for these rejections is
unclear to me. Now, our city leaders have made a third effort uh to forward paths uh to give them some land uh for their new tiny home and fortunately for Leburg's 37,000 residents. This sits directly in the middle of nearly five acres of land that are currently used or
should be improved for parks and recreation, specifically cork sports, pickle ball, basketball, tennis, cornhole, and of course, shuffleboard. Uh some brief statistics, uh pickle ball, 13 13.8% of the US plays pickle ball. It's 48 million people that play
pickle ball and the US consumer spending is $ 1.9 billion. And we have zero pickle ball courts in Leburg. Basketball. 8% of US plays basketball. It impacts 28.1 million people. US consumer spending is 9.67
billion dollars. And we have five basketball courts. Tennis, 7.3% of the US plays tennis. That's a 32% increase in the last 5 years. 25.7 million people play tennis in the US.
It's a $5.57 billion spend in the US. And we had eight tennis courts. Four were demolished at Susan Street. Susan Street. Now we have four tennis courts. Cornhole. 20% of the US plays cornhole. That impacts 70 million people in the
US. US consumer spending 96 million. Expected growth is 162 million in the next 5 years. And we have zero cornhole courts. And of course, shuffle board. Shuffle board. Uh 1% of the US population plays shuffle board. That's a
We've had a 75x growth in shuffleboard in since 2005. The majority of players are millennials and Gen Z's. We have 24 shuffleboard courts and they are scheduled for demolition by this group tonight. In the last two years, Leburg has added 40,000 buildable lots to our
city limits. We have added a zero square foot of park and recreation to our community. Leburg needs more parks and recreation, not less. I urge you please table this item until a proper evaluation can be performed. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Bullet.
>> I am Gail Howell. I'm president of the shuffle boards in Leburg. I live at 1313 Mo Court in Leburg. I have some uh uh some signatures of the petitions that
we've had. We had um 892 signatures and I got another 15 more coming in tonight, but we can't give them to you because we don't have them copied. So, that's 900 over 900 signatures for our courts. Let me give these to you.
You can These signatures reflect support for the following requests. Halt any plans to demolish the shuffleboard courts. Preserve the 24 courts and clubhouse at the Palmetto Street Sports Complex. Invest in
maintenance and upgrades. resurface the courts to ensure their longevity as recommended by Commissioner Connell to maintain a high quality facility for current and future generations. Explore alternative locations for forward paths. Identify other suitable
city-owned properties for youth housing initiatives, ensuring both community recreation and social services can thrive. Engage the community in decision-making. hold public forums to discuss the future of the courts,
ensuring transparency and inclusion of all stakeholders, including the Leburg Shuffleboard Club and its supporters. Please respond by selecting another site for forward paths. And I have a couple of personal questions to ask. Um, first,
I'd like to know why everything has been so secretive. We we were it just happened to be mentioned by a council person that you were going to do away with our courts. We don't think that's fair. Why are you putting down and us down instead of praising us? We have
players who play in district, in states, in masters, in senior games and nationals. We have many of them. Many of them are here. We have our youngest two people here who are 16 and we have our oldest here tonight who is 92. We have
other people from other courts here supporting us in that we have three C we have three tournaments in October. What do we do about these? Are we going to be able to play? One is the state tournament. These are these are made up
way ahead of time. Um why are you trying to make us the bad guys? It seems like every time we come up here, we're we're the bad people and we we are not letting the youth in. We have a homeless person of our own who
who comes to play shuffle board. We've taught them and he's getting pretty good. We don't want to turn down these kids. We just don't want them on our courts. So, please find another site for their homes and leave us with our
shuffleboard courts. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners and fellow citizens. My name is Carol Halur and I live at 1841 Harding Path in the Villages. I am the secretary of the Leburg Shuffle Board Club and I've had
that position since 2016, even though I started playing in Leburg in 2006. Um, I am here to speak on behalf of P, excuse me, preserving the historic Leburg Shuffleboard courts at the
Palmetto Street Sports Complex. These courts are not just slabs of concrete. They represent a piece of our city's history dating back to the 1920s with roots in the Vetian gardens and ties to
the Works Progress Administration era during the Great Depression. In two 2015, we celebrated the 100th anniversary of Shuffleboard in Leburg. The current shuffleboard facility was
built in 1971 and has been home to the Leburg Shuffleboard Club ever since. The club has been entrusted with day-to-day maintenance since 1985 or the last 40 years. They symbolize
Leberg's enduring spirit as we welcome as welcoming recreational haven. Demolishing them would erase a tangible link to our past. One that has stood for 54 years and a complete loss of taxpayer
dollars that built it. Instead, let's honor this heritage by finding an alternative site for the forward pass for foundation such as exploring other cityowned surplus properties. Preserving
these courts ensures future generations can connect with Leberg's story and continue for the next 100year anniversary. I urge you to vote against demolition and protect our historical
landmarks. It doesn't have to be a win loss for both groups. We can both be a winner. Thank you. My name is Kathy Clark and I'm I live at 109 South Lake Drive in Leburg.
I'm speaking as a concerned resident speaking for our seen seniors. The Travel and Leisure article titled This Charming Lakefront Florida City was just named the fastest growing
retirement community in the US. Published on August the 11th, 2025. It includes the following. Located 20 45 miles northwest of Orlando, Leburg has a population of
38,000 with 28.9% residents over 65. Leberg's 5-year growth in retirement age adults is an impressive 54.8%.
This means that nearly onethird of our voters are seniors who rely on accessessible amenities like shuffleboard courts for exercise, community, and joy. These courts are
cornerstone for their active lifestyles, tailored to their needs. Demolishing them would alienate a significant portion of our population. disregarding their contribution to
Leburg's growth and vitality. Do you really want to uh alienate a significant portion of our population, disregarding their contributions to Leburg's growth and vitality? Do you
really want to elim to alienate that one-third of your voters? We can s we can support homeless youth by redirecting forward paths to sites like the Leburg Resource
Center which offers more space for housing. Preserve the courts to honor our seniors voices. I urge you to vote no on demolition. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Keith
Hullbrook. I'm at 167 North Lake Drive here in Leburg. I'm a Leburg resident and passion about our community's identity. The Shuffboard Courts are more than a game space. They're woven into the cultural fabric of Leburg,
reflecting our reputation as a retirey friendly, active lifestyle city in Florida. Uh they've been a cornerstone of the community since 1971, hosting events that define our local character and draw people together in a
way that embodies a old Florida charm. Uh tearing them down for housing while noble in intent risk diluting what makes Leburg unique. We can support homeless youth by redirecting the forward past project to
another available land which could be repurposed without sacrificing our cultural icons. Let's preserve this heritage to maintain Leburg's appeal and sense of place. Please commissioners choose pres preservation over demolition which be a
complete loss of of a facility paid for tax dollars. Shuffle board is not just a game, it's an identity. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Phyllis Soalwood and my address is 2537
Buttonwood Run in the Villages, Florida. I'm going to focus on Leburg's tourism draw. The shuffleboard courts position our city as a unique destination for recreational visitors, aligning with
Florida's shuffleboard legacy and attracting retirees and enthusiasts while spending $10.5 million to bring recreational tourists. The Leburg Shuffleboard Club is already
doing that by bringing in even residents from the villages to join their club. Losing the courts diminishes our appeal, potent potentially reducing visitor spending that supports our economy.
I can say for sure that there is not one member of the shuffleboard community that does not support housing for troubled or um problem youth.
However, you can aid that by exploring alternative city-owned vacant properties, many of which are listed for development in Leburg. keep the Leburg courts to enhance
tourism while helping the youth elsewhere. I call on the commission to vote for preservation of the Leburg Shuffleboard Club. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Sharon Upson. I
live at 174 Hibiscus Way at Leburg. I joined the Leburg Shuffleboard Club in January 1988, so I've been around a long time and seen a lot that's been going on. I speak as a citizen who values
inclusive recreation. The shuffleboard courts are open to everyone, offering free lessons and equipment for beginners of all ages, making them a rare barrierfree activity in Leburg. They bridge generations with younger plays
joining seniors, promoting family bonding and community diversity. The club claims of the courts being locked up, confirming public access. Demolishing them limits this inclusivity as there are no other options for the
Leburg Shuffle board club's continued existence while alternatives exist for the youth housing that Forward Path wants to build. Let's keep the courts for all Leburg residents while supporting the youth on vacant land. I
urge the commissioners to vote for preservation of the Leburg shuffleboard facility and make the needed maintenance upgrades. Thank you. >> Good evening, mayor and commissioners. I appreciate uh the time. Um my name is
Janet Shyra. I am not a resident of Leburg. However, I stay in Leburg several times a year when I come over from the New Simrna Beach area to play shuffleboard here. I typically stay right down the road at the Town Place suites and I typically eat at McCracken's downtown or Ski Beach. The
Leburg Shuffleboard Courts are a vital part of the lives of hundreds of people throughout Central Florida area, as well as many players who live in your city. Shuffleboard is a popular sport whether you know it or not throughout our region, our state, our country, and internationally. The Florida
Shuffleboard Association is made up of seven districts. We represent the northern district, and our district has eight clubs. Five of those clubs use city-owned courts. Leburg, New Simra, Dandar, and Claremont. Our district
hosts 25 tournaments in the northern district. At least three of those take place here in Leburg. I would estimate that there's probably close to 300 players in the Northern District. Many of those come to play here in Leburg.
I'm one of them. Our district also hosts 11 of the 41 state tournaments that are held throughout Florida during the season. Those are open to all Florida shuffleboard players. So, three of those tournaments are
scheduled for the Leburg courts. They attract people from all over the state. 23 states, including Florida, are members of the National Shuffle Board Association. The Florida Association has
over 2300 official members. When Leburg hosts those three state tournaments this year, any or all of those Florida members can sign up to play. Many of them travel here to play and they're staying in your hotels, eating at your
restaurants, and contributing to your local economy. And yes, there's also an international shuffleboard association. There are players from the US, Germany, the United Kingdom, Canada, Norway, Australia, Austria, Brazil, and the
Netherlands. Next month, the 42nd annual World Champions ships take place in Germany. The US will be sending 28 men and 18 women. Last year, one of our Northern District players, Sarah Heran, placed third overall for the women at
the World Championships. I hope this gives you a sense of how re farreaching the sport of shuffleboard is and how valuable the Leboard courts are not only to the local players, but the hundreds of Northern District players and the thousands of the state of Florida
players. You may not realize it, but shuffleboard is contributing to your local economy. We hope you will save these courts and come out to our tournaments this year to get a firstirhand look at the sport. Thank you for your time. >> My name is Charles Wood. My address is
2537 Buttonwood Run in the Villages. And my presentation today is about the economic impact of the tournaments that we have every year to your economy. While gathering signatures, we spoke
with many local businesses owners concerned about our economy and the potential destruction of the shuffleboard courts, which would be a complete waste of taxpayer money that paid for the current facility.
The Leburg Shuffle Board Club hosts six annual tournaments, each drawing up to 100 participants, including out oftowners who boost hotel, restaurant, and shops. This tourism
revenue is vital, and the demolition of the 24 courts would eliminate these events, costing Leburg businesses this revenue. Club members emphasized that tournament can't easily
uh relocate. Instead, redirect the youth houses to other vacant land such as private land for sale in Leburg or city surplus properties. Preserve the courts to sustain this
economic engine. Commissioners, please protect our local prosperity. Vote to keep the Leburg shuffleboard courts. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Olivia Soal and
I live at 700 Homestead Loop in Wildwood, Florida. Me along with my brother have been at these courts since we were nine and we've grown up with them along with the members of the club. Tonight I want to
highlight the mental health advantages of the courts. For club members, shuffleboard provides purpose and joy, helping cope with loss and stress through routine activity and commodery. The game keeps the players thinking of strategy while playing the game with
their opponent. is a therapeutic outlet in a world where mental health resources are stretched thin. Tearing them down ignores this. Please preserve the courts for emotional well-being. I urge you each to vote against donating their shuffleboard property that would then
demolish the long-term recreational public resource. Thank you. Hello, I'm Diana Vincent, 111 Oak Terrace Drive in Leburg. Says I'm supposed to talk about the social connection for the elderly, but it's so much more. Says shuffleboard is a
family. There's a lot of people that come here that have just lost a spouse and they join our club says and they have a whole new different family. Their family may be, you know, brothers and
sisters, siblings, says daughters, sons that live in out of state, they have no place else to go. Says it's not just an elderly sport. Says you see our younger generation coming up. We're seeing
younger and younger says players come every year. Says they're loving the sport. Says they're carrying on traditions. The Leburg Shuffle board court provides a welcoming space. It's not just for
senior solitude, but it's for club representatives. Removing this would harm our vulnerable community, not of just the elderly, but our future generation. is we know that it's an important
for our homeless youth to be relocating, but there's other places like Lake Custody Street that's been potentially a suitable discussion, I understand, to preserve the courts to safeguard these social networks. Please vote no for
demolition. Thank you for your Hello, my name is Jacob Soil and I am at 700 Homestead Loop and I have two main points I would make today about the Leburg Shuffle court and supporting them. So the first one will be about the promotion of physical activity. So
shuffleboard promotes communitywide physical activities and engage movement for all physical levels whether or not you're in a wheelchair and unable to move or you're able to walk around freely just as easily as me. and be able to push your queue down the stick and be able to play with ease.
The Leberg's active club shows demonstration and value. However, with the de demolition of them, the um forward paths would take over the Leburg shuffle courts and would remove one of these levels of physical activities. Next, I would also like to speak about
the new engagement that I've just actually spoken about. I am the vice president of my class for student government and I've spoken with my school which I attend Wildwood Middle High School and we are going to start making announcements schoolwide about new students from 7th grade all the way
to 12th grade about coming joining and attending new meetings at the Leburg Chenbor court so that way they can start joining the club and maybe their families also. Um, I spoke with Gail who's the president and she said that it's a possibility on Wednesdays after school and then possibly on weekends
also. Thank you. Please do not demolish these courts for both me, the older generation, and the new people who would like to come join and enjoy the sport just as I have like my twin sister said since I was 9 years old. Thank you.
>> How can I top that? My name is Clark Silvers, uh, 1821 Dora Avenue in Tavaris. I am the treasurer of the Leberg Shuffboard Club and I'm on the board.
Uh, I'm here to stress the court's public nature. I think you've heard a good bit about that already. They're open to all and are not exclusive and are open to all ages. As you've seen with city staff confirming the
accessibility, the Leburg Shuffleboard Club will happily provide visitor discs and cues for visitors without their own equipment. This ensures a broad community benefit. Don't demolish the courts. Opt for the youth houses on other
surplus properties. Vote to preserve the shuffleboard facility for inclusive access. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Sharon Wild, 347 Hawthorne Boulevard. I'm here to address alternative sites, other city-
owned surplus. With multiple vacant parcels available, forward paths can build on vacant land without demolishing courts that tax dollars built. This balances need, preserve recreation, use surplus for housing. My personal thoughts on why
this parcel is not the best choice for forward paths. There is no affordable fast food or convenient food close to property, not a lot of money in their pockets. Okay. Grocery stores. You've cited the
fact that they don't have a lot of vehicles. They have to go to grocery stores if they're not going to eat out for food. Um, all those have to be crossed. Going across a busy road, travel to the high school is dangerous.
Okay, they have to cross multiple uh busy streets if they're riding their bicycles. Those who haven't graduated yet. The available options for work are slim. Okay, they have the downtown area. That's a point. I think if they could
find a better solution or a better piece of property where there would be more uh options for work, that would be great for the youth that are being um housed. Uh transportation to education to the trade schools and colleges is very
limited. Okay? You've got bus routes, you've got bus schedules. Uh they may not drive with them going to school. If they could be closer to a university or the colleges or the trade schools, that would be a better option. Since these youths supposedly do not
have the skills or available resources to enter mainstream as they come out of foster care, um who's overseeing the transition since these are single unit housing for two youths together? Um, I think personally, and this is just me
personally, not all these people in here. Um, that a multi-unit divi dwelling with supervision is a better solution so that they can be taught and someone is there on hand, right, ready with them. Why should we keep the courts?
One, it's going to cost a lot of money to the city to replace them. And I'm hoping that if we uh don't get to keep the courts that you are planning to replace them. Recreation is very important to all ages. Improved recreation area serves many purposes.
One, as they've stated, it brings in revenue. Tournaments mean dollars. It showcases the city. We have a beautiful pool right down the street. Okay? If they drive past a beautiful recreational area heading down to the pool, it it's
just a win-win for everyone. and alternative uh housing um city-owned property would be a perfect solution. Please vote for us. Hello, I'm Patricia King. 5919 Flint
Loop The Villages arguing for separation. Mixing housing and sports might create conflicts. Keep them distinct for optimal use. Alternatives abound for housing. Preserve courts. Resurface the shuffle board and tennis
courts. And add dedicated pickle ball courts to make a great sports complex for pure recreation. Thank you. >> Evening. Thomas Brown, 1617 New Abbey Avenue. I'm concerned about losing a precious
recreational space. The 24 courts at Palmetto are the only public dedicated venue for competitive shuffle board. Irreplaceable in a growing city where green spaces are limited. Demolition would reduce options for leisure
affecting quality of life. I suggest forward path to use vacant lots in 34788 zip code area or surplus city properties. preserve the space for community enjoyment. If you decide to convert the property,
please provide us a new competitive facility. Leburg Shuffle board is historic. Don't take history from the city. Thank you. Rod Lewis, 135 Easterling Way, Leburg.
Eight years ago, we moved away from Dand on purpose. We came to Leburg because of the shuffleboard environment here. I think that's quite a thing. Le, you know, Dand's a very nice place to live in. We chose Leburg because of the
community that we were joining in here with with shelf the board. We're year-long residents. So, we aren't here just part of the year. We play every single week. We played this morning at 9:00 to 11:00.
Weather doesn't matter. It's the environment. It's the people. It's the competition. and we enjoy Leburg Shuffleberg. Thank you. >> Hello, my name is Donna Lewis. Um, I live at 135 East Sterling Way in Leburg.
And as my husband said, we specifically moved to Leburg because of Shuffleboard. I never in my life thought I'd play sh I didn't know anything about Shuffleboard till we moved to the land and we've met some of the best people in the world. We've traveled to play shuffle board. We
went for the nationals in North Carolina last year. We played with people from their mid20s to their 90s. Anyone can play in a wheelchair, in a walker. And Leburg puts so much into those courts and we do in our courts and we play
every week. There are many of us that are not snowbirds. We're here every day of the year. And people do come in and they they come a day early to Leburg and stay overnight. So the hotels, the restaurants, the theaters, the shopping,
everything benefits. I know the Forward Paths program is important. My parents had foster children and they kept two boys until they were 22 because they wanted to help them to transition and get into the world and be good,
responsible adults. And they were. We know that's important, but we can both win. It would take forever to replace these shuffleboard courts. There's so much history and so much knowledge and so much love into that club. They need
to be saved. Please, please vote yes for saving the courts. Thank you. >> Hi, I'm Deborah Lizden. I'm at 176 South Lake Drive in Leburg. I am here to respectfully express my
concern regarding the obvious bias for the forward path getting this land. Here is what I see as proof of the bias. It has been brought to my attention that there have been other options for the forward pass project, one close to a school, but there are no options for the
shuffleboard club. The last time I was in front of you, which was a couple months ago, um you sneered when I made the comment that you're treating us like disposables. This is the proof of that treatment. None of us are against the project for
going forward for forward pass, just not on those courts. How can you justify the cost of tearing down a complex before it can even be built on when you have not even maintained the courts for years for us? Um, we talk about the youth being
vulnerable group, but so are the seniors. Um, you talk about building court somewhere else, but we all know that'll never happen. Um, I just can't help wondering how your parents would feel about how you're treating us. Think
before you vote, please. >> Thank you. My name is Joe Enga. I'm the president of the Northern District Shuffle Board Association. I was here back in July when you had your meeting. I live in the land. My heart is with the shuffleboard
community and my heart is with uh forward paths. I've been involved with government for more than 30 years. I want to talk I'm not going to repeat everything everybody said here. I want to talk about my dismay and disappointment what I am seeing. I've
heard people say that you have offered, I don't know whether it's true or not, other locations to a new organization, something that is needed, but you are more than willing to get rid of something that's been in this community for a hundred years. I don't understand that. I sat here tonight and I watched
renderings, site plans of future development. Yet, when this whole process started back in July, I went back into the minutes of the zoning and planning boards and your meetings and I couldn't find anything about forward paths seeking locations here in the
community of Leburg. What I'm dismayed about is how this process started. I'm not going to make no accusations. A lot of people can form their own opinions. What I'm dismayed about is that why wasn't the Leburg Shuffleboard Club included in the
process? Could have been made part of the process, offer other viable alternatives to put this organization out after being in this community for a hundred years. It makes absolutely no sense, especially when you advertise a growing community
with recreation. I know as well as you that you have other locations that are available and will work very well for forward paths, but I haven't seen anything I might be wrong where they came before your zoning
and planning board. I came forward with any approvals open to the public here with comments and anything I have read. I could have missed it because I went back about three years. I didn't start seeing anything about this until July. I know the Leburg Shuffleboard Club was
informed about it. I think on around July 10th when you had a budget meeting, it was the first they caught wind of it. When the hurricane came through here last year, they had a state tournament. The Leburg Shuffleboard Club and other members throughout the district and the state came here to take care of the
lights, remove the roofing that blew off uh on the on the structure onto the courts. They did it themselves. I think you need to revisit this because I feel that you're all wrong.
I will call it for what it is. You went ahead and started a process without including the Leburg Shuffleboard Club. And I'm in favor of this shuffle work club staying there, but I think you could find a better location for the
forward pats. They do belong in here, but not at the Leborg Shuffle Club. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners, mayor, and residents. I'm Steve Clark at 109 South Lake Drive in Leburg speaking at this critical hearing on transferring the
Palmetto Street Shuffle boards to the Ford Pass Foundation. Due to overwhelming community interest, we're here at the Venetian Center to confront a pivotal decision. The proposal seeks to demolish 24 historic shuffleboard
courts, vibrant community anchors since 1971 for 10 tiny homes to support at at risk youth. The foundation foundation's mission to aid homeless youth is indeed vital, but sacrificing cherished space
that draws tourists, boosts local business, unites seniors and families really demands your scrutiny. Are there no alternatives to pitting one community need against another? Worse, this proposal raises glaring
ethical concerns. Commissioner Jimmy Bur's wife, Denise, founded the Forward Path Foundation, which would directly benefit from this land transfer. This is a textbook case of an ethical conflict of interest. Even if legally
permissible, it fails public trust. Commissioner Bur, will you recuse yourself to preserve integrity? And commissioners, does this proposal really pass the sniff test of
transparency and fairness in governance? My complaint to the Florida Commission on Ethics seeks clarity on these issues, but we must prioritize accountability. Now, Leberg thrives on balance. Alternatives exist.
Relocate the homes to un underused city land or secure private donations. Destroying community treasures or favoring one group other other over others risk division. You've been notified of an ethics complaint. You've
received a cease and desist order based on violating your own charter. and we've turned in what has now come up to over 1,000 signatures supporting the preservation of these courts. I'm not sure what else we need to do to convince you that there's a
public interest in maintaining. I will urge you to re reject this transfer as proposed. Choose a path forward that honors all residents, upholds ethics, and strengthens Leburg. Thank you.
name is Walt Bartell's. I teach the sport a shuffle board. I tell people it's not a shuffleboard court. It's a combination pool table and putting green because you have to worry about where that disc goes. And like other sports,
if your opponent hits that disc, you can put in the kitchen for 10 off. You have to turn around and figure on the court. It teaches you to think. And that's a great thing about shuffle board and why I like to see young people playing
shuffle board. And only you can help us by talking to the schools and get them in there to play. They have to think every shot. They have to think where that shot's going to end up. The other thing, it doesn't matter what
gender you are, what age you are, or how big or how small you are. Everybody is equal in the sport. The other thing I'd like to say for these young people that are out of work and need a home, there's a lot of people, older people who have
lost some family. Would be more than glad to take them in. I'm 83 years old. I lost my brother. I lost my mother. I'd be happy to have somebody there. and it's just something for them to
think about and something for you to think about. Thank you. >> Um hello. Um I am Savannah. I am one of the youth in Ford paths. There are some things head here that I would like to correct. Um one uh the youth are not
problem. They're homeless. Um I heard problem and troubled youth being used. Um, I've never been in trouble my whole entire, you know, life. Um, one other thing I would like to address is that we do have jobs and we work in the
community. In fact, my, um, nursing degree, um, nursing diploma, sorry, was funded by Ford Path and I'm now a nurse at, um, our local hospital. I was born in Leburg. I went to Leburg High School.
The problem within Leburg essentially is the uh lack of resources for all the homeless uh youth. I was homeless at 18. I went to my guidance counselor. They said they don't have any resources for me at that time. This was like like
sixish years ago. That may have changed, but the way that Denise was able forward pass in general was able to come provide me housing, make sure I go to school and become a productive member of this, you know, city that actually matters because
as we know, we need our nurses and we're going through a nursing shortage and Leburg especially needs good nurses. Um, so I would say that Ford Pass provides way more to the um, community than
they're getting credit for. I think um, and I also believe that this is very important for the underdeserved, the people that can't speak for themselves, the people that, you know, are working and aren't are able to make these meetings that may be very important or them have something to say or they have
school or other things going on. I think that it said to us that oh we should um look for alternatives. They have alternatives already there. We have no alternatives. These are one of the only resources we have and we don't have the
option to you know I never had the privilege of my life to move to a completely different city just for a sport. I had to um critically think about you know my life what I'm going to do essentially when I became homeless. I had to critically think on what am I
going to do next and Ford path was able to provide me a way for that. So I'm completely in support of Ford Paths and I will ask for you vote on their behalf. Thank you. >> Hi, I'm Dave and I'm the resident assistant for Forward Pass and also a
youth. I watched the videos on on how Leburg shuffleboard think it's a priority to keep courts than innocent youth lives. So this is my response to the city and shuffleboard people. This war is not over. We definitely have very concerning youth on how Leburg property
would be a big impact. I'm writing to express my deep concern regarding our community's priorities. While I recognize the value of recreational amenities, I find it absurd that we prioritize shuffleboard courts over the
urgent needs of vulnerable youth. It's disheartening to witness recreational concerns overshadowing the struggles of children facing abuse, homeland, homelessness, and lack of educational opportunities. These young lives deserve
our utmost attention and support. We must remember that these children are just not statistics. They are individuals with dreams, potential, and the right to a safe and nurturing environment. Investing in their well-being and future should be a
paramount priority to help students get to where they want to be. We have dedic dedicated professionals like McKenna, our case managers, who strive to guide students toward their goals, and Denise, our director, who works tirelessly to meet their needs. I urge our community
leaders and residents to reassesses our values and ensure that we are locating resources effectively to support these vulnerable youth. By connecting students with the right resources and support systems, we can pave forward for a path for them to succeed. Let's work together
to create a community where every child has the opportunities to thrive, reach their full potential and contribute positively to society. By choosing compassion and action, we can make a lasting difference in the lives of these
young people and build a brighter future for all. Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Alan Dancefield. I live at 3409 nursery place in the building, but I haven't been there forever. I started out living at
Lake Griffin Harbor at 33143 Beach View Drive. I spent 12 years in Leburg. I divorced my wife and found another lady. She happened to live in the villages. That's where I ended up. My career in Leburg started at the
Leburg Shelfboard Club. Some time ago, Commissioner Peterson, it was at the budget meeting you mentioned the club. You drove by there. It didn't look too good. I can explain that.
I'm not going to point fingers, but the city dropped the ball on us. I've been the city liaison between my club and the Department of Public Works. We've relied on them for a whole lot of help and greatly appreciated for what we
did get. Every time we put a bid out wanting to get our courts resurfaced and upgrade the facility, it was denied. Somebody had other priorities.
I got some pictures here of when Milton hit the Leburg Shuffleboard Club. We didn't get any help from the city. The senior citizens that have been here at the mic did all the work, lifting the the roofs that flew off the Montreals
and picked them up and carried them to another location. All the debris that was all over our courts. We put together a heck of a crew and we got that all accomplished. I'm going to pass these pictures up to you so you can see some of what we dealt with. Thank
you. Before we begin, I just want to speak when it comes to the recreation of the cleaning after Milton. The city has a process. Life safety's first, roads, and then recreation is very last. So, all of those options come first before
recreation. So, to throw our city staff underneath the bus saying we didn't care, do our due diligence when it comes to the property, that's wrong. >> Hi, my name is Melanie Henderson. I live at 73857 Drive. I was born here, raised my kids
here. Um, been here my whole life. And, um, I'm sad, sickened, and disturbed that basically it's coming down to a shuffle board and youth that are homeless. Um, these kids get getting
pushed aside. Everyone's like, "Oh, we can deal with them later. Put them somewhere else." Blah, blah, blah. This is the area that they need to be in. This is our future. This is going to make them productive citizens instead of
our government caring for them for the rest of their lives. They should be part of our society. We should have the people who are playing shuffle board should be giving back and maybe mentoring them, taking them in, teaching them things.
Kudos to the recreation board for all the improvements that are being made throughout Leburg. You've done some wonderful things and are continuing to do wonderful thing. I'm very proud of that. This is a very small portion of Lamb. My kids have played
tennis at the courts next door for a very long time. Every time I'm there and have been there, no one's at the shuffle boards. The majority of the time when I drive by, they sit unused. Most of the time the parking's used
actually for the tennis courts. So, um I just feel like these kids have so much to offer us. They deserve more and they're part of our community. We need to get behind them now. Um,
there's so much available to the retirement community that surrounds us everywhere. And from what I hear here, a lot of those people have transportation. The kids, the youth for forward paths, they need to be able to use those bike
paths. They need to be able to get to the schools that are located right there, Leburg High School. Um, that's why all those bike paths were put in so people could use them. Those kids would be a prime example of people who need to use them to get to work across the
street at Taco Bell, Publix, all the um Planet Fitness, all the facilities are around that give them a start so that they can work and get an education and become better contributing citizens.
I think we need to do better. My name is Jacob Bonning, 150 West Reading Way in Winter Park. I'm president of the board for Ford Paths. Uh we are a nonprofit based right here in Leburg that serves young people who are often overlooked and discarded. Those who age out of foster care or who
are experiencing homelessness through no fault of their own. They have promise and potential, but they have nowhere to turn. They have no family, no safety net, and no roof over their head. We are the only organization in the area that offers housing and assistance to this
population. We're it. At the beginning of 2024, we were housing 24 young adults. Today, a year and a half later, we house 42 with many more on a wait list. But that's all the space that we have. We
need more housing. Now, we don't just give them a place to stay and see what happens. We have requirements for self-improvement to stay in our program. Our youth have to be in school and they have to have a job both. We have committed case workers who meet with them daily. We have a
therapists. We have mentors, a financial stability coach, and we have an army of volunteers who live here in Leburg and who live outside of Leburg. They drive in from the villages, Mount Dora, even Orlando to volunteer with us here in Leburg daily supporting our local
businesses. the first youth um that we first worked with um many years ago, that group um who have since left our program, we've seen them grow up to be self-sufficient and independent adults. Many of them have stayed here in Leburg. They're now
parents and first-time homeowners, and they've become taxpayers in Leburg. Taxpayers. There's a certain stigma that's attached to the word homeless that often paints an inaccurate picture of our youth. So, to be honest, we aren't surprised
tonight by the push back. We've faced intimidation before. A lot of people want hard issues to be out of sight and out of mind. But the reality is these kids are everywhere and they're not out of sight. Many of our youth live just
steps away from the property that we're talking about right now. They're already right here. Right here. It's tough to hear or read the hateful comments and we tried to shield our youth from most of it, but it's hard to drown out the negativity. There are days
where it seems like if we just gave up on this, it would just be a lot easier. But we won't. We are here in service to these kids and because we know that this is what they need and this is what our community needs and it's too important to shy away
from. We can't just give up because it's inconvenient or because it makes some people feel uncomfortable. At the end of the day, we're not just building homes. We're building a stronger, more educated, and prosperous community. With your support here in Leburg, we have a chance to respond directly to a local
and growing need with long-term solutions. Thank you. >> Hi. Hi. My name is Russ Breamer. I am not a Leburg resident. I live in AOE. I work for an organization called Homemade Orlando. It's part of Homemade America, which for 35 years has built housing and
renovated properties for homeless service agencies all across America. I'm here tonight because I've seen firsthand the the progress that Forward Pass has made in Eustace with the project that was completed with Cottages on Grove. I love the passion in this group. Leburg
is obviously a passionate community concerned about doing the right things. I can tell you firsthand the people in Leburg were not fans of Forward Pass project four years ago and spent more than two years fighting that development
to take place. Now it stands as a source of pride in the Eustace community. The same people that sat on the commission and drug it out for two years before it started now stand there very happy that it's in the community. And I've seen the good that Forward Paths has done with
the youth in Eustace and the work they've done in Leburg. I've met so many of their people in the four years that I've been working with them that are productive citizens in the community. Police officers, nurses, you you've heard from a couple of them and it's just vitally important that you set the
course of the next 40 years of your community's well-being by helping the youth go through the programs at Forward Paths and become productive citizens. I see it all over. I work all over Central Florida and I have yet to encounter an
easy startup project with homeless service agencies. Everyone thinks it's a great idea until it affects something that they're doing. And then can't we find someplace else? And it causes delays. It causes hardship. It causes cost increases. It only ends up being
harder to get it done. And then when it's all done, everybody's so glad that it got done and wonders why it didn't happen sooner. So, I encourage you to take action. You've gotten to this point where someone identified that this was an important project for the community. It is an important project and it's an
important agency that sets the course of our future. So, please take action on this issue tonight. I ask you to vote yes for forward paths. Hello, my name is Eileene Colona and I reside at 109 South Lake Drive in
Leburg. I am a retired special educator and for nearly 40 years I dedicated my life to supporting children and young adults with physical, cognitive, and emotional disabilities. Many were scarred by abuse, violence,
and instability. Far too many of their stories are way too horrific and way too graphic to be shared here. And many have been in and out of foster homes. One being a boy who at the young age of 10
had already endured 10 different foster homes. So what false forward path is trying to accomplish here to provide stable housing for vulnerable youth speaks volumes to my heart and soul. I am my only concern here and I'm gravely
concerned is that the proposed site is on the west side of US Highway 27 and that would force them to cross the dangerous high-speed roadway daily in order to attend their required classes
at the high school on the east side of the highway. The intersection at Yellow Jacket Way near the school, it already has students accessing it from all directions and adding more pedestrians from the west side increases the risks
of accidents, injuries, and fatalities. And studies from the Florida DOT, the um as well as local safe access reports have highlighted the dangers of these mid block crossings and the inadequate sidewalks at this location. and where
vehicles frequently fail to yield. It is unconscionable to expect these individuals to navigate this highway on foot or by bike during rush hour in bad weather with low visibility or in low light light. It is our moral, ethical,
and civic duty to protect these young people. And I implore you to choose a site on the east side of Highway 27, closer to the school, ensuring safer daily commutes and prioritizing their well-being without putting them in
harm's way. Please do not let these youth become pedestrian fatality statistics. Thank you. Hi, Scott Chrisley, 1100 Blackstar Road, Leburg. uh 55 year resident of Leburg. Uh 41 years I've owned Skate World, the
uh roller skating rink here in Leburg. Uh so I have dealt with a lot of youth, way more than probably anybody sitting in this room, just to put it bluntly. Um I am I I like what they're talking about. Uh the project sounds good. I
just think you have the wrong location to take away some of the recreational activities that have been going on in this city for that long. And as Mr. Pulk said, uh, a lot of tax money that I've put into this city, uh, a lot of tax money, um, has been keeping that and
other recreational activities going in this city. And for this to to to have to be the only site that that can be built and take away something that's been here for a hundred years in the shuffleboard court that brings in people from all over into this city. And isn't that what
we look for? Don't we look for that tourism to come into our city and to put money into our city and now you're just going to destroy this this shuffleboard courts that have been part of this city for that long. I just think it's wrong and I don't think it's the right location. I don't know where that
location is, but if they've already had two others that others have said, I have no idea. I have not been involved in this. I don't know them. I'm not a shuffleboard player. I'm being honest with you. Just as a Leburg resident, I think this is wrong. And I'll also have to say that something about it just
seems wrong. That there's a little bit of fishy stuff going on in here when his wife is sitting on the board of the organization that you're trying to give that property to. Does not seem ethical to me and I don't know where that will go in the future. Thank you very much,
commissioners. >> Yeah. Before we move on, I just want to address the ethical issue. This has been raised for about a month now. It's been discussed with Commissioner Bur. Um based on the discussions with him, the
city doesn't have any concern that there is an ethical conflict. Um you know, typically commissioners are required to vote unless there is a conflict. There's no special private gain here. Uh the relatives in question are unpaid volunteers for the organization. There
is no economic benefit whatsoever that uh I have been alerted to. I have uh invited the public for the past month to send me information that would indicate that there might be a conflict and all
we've heard is the same thing over and over again. So, I just wanted to address that this is an issue we have looked at. I've talked to Commissioner Bur multiple times about this. I've gone through a lot of information with him about this and the city's not concerned about a conflict. Uh the uh the voting statute
or the voting conflict statute's not triggered here. And so although I understand people want to keep pointing that out, I just wanted to make the point that it's not lost on the city. It's been looked at over and over and over again and the city's not concerned about it. So thank you.
>> Good evening, commissioners. My name is Rick Tolman. My address is 655 Abdella Way, the Villages, Florida. I'm here again representing the Leburg Shuffle Shuffleboard Club. And I'd like to review how we got to this point. You are here today considering giving away a
historic piece of property which has been home to the Leburg Shuffleboard Club for the last 54 years. In 2013, they celebrated 100 years of Leburg Shuffleboard. So, it's 112 years of Leburg Shuffleboard.
I want to also point out that Leburg Shuffleboard Club has been a 501c3 for the last 40 years since 1985, a registered 501c3 with the state of Florida. I would like to also point out
that you should start looking at your own land use. Your land use, you plan on what you want where. We saw some of that tonight. You have a land use. The shuffleboard courts have been there for 54 years. It's been a planned use and
you want to destroy that. Somehow someone within the city offered this property to Forward Pass. That's why we're all here tonight. Someone decided they are not the city. The city is the
people. So, whoever offered this property to the Forward Pass organization, they are to blame for all of this. Planning and zoning. Your planning and zoning will not allow 600 square foot
homes. You're going to have to alter that. You are not allowed under 700 square ft. So, you're going to make an exception there. How about your mission and goals listed on your website? Goal number five, foster an environment where
local governance is collaborative, transparent, and physically sound. Collaborative. You never even talked to the shuffleboard club. Never even talked to us. We offered for each of you to
come over and talk to us. Except for Commissioner Condell, none of you would even acknowledge that offer. transparent. This is the first time it's on a city agenda. You're going to do it
by resolution, physically sound. Taxpayers paid for this facility. You're going to just bulldoze it over and hand it over to somebody else. It's a valuable piece of property. 112 years.
You're willing to throw that away. Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Jay Kowalsski. Uh I live uh at 37105 uh Scenic Bluff Drive in Grand Island. I'm the pastor at First United Methodist Church in Eustace. Um, and let me just
say, uh, my pastor's heart is somewhat compassionate for you guys tonight and ladies, uh, I don't relish the position you're in. And my guess is that if you, uh, grew up in Sunday school or some type of religious organization, somewhere in your heart, you're wishing
that Solomon would suddenly appear to, uh, help make this decision because I know it is not an easy one. Um, and uh, I'm not here to put down anybody. I'm here to share what uh, my
and my congregation experience has been with forward paths. Um, if you call your, um, counterparts and use this, uh, they will tell you that it's my church's fault that Forward Path uh, built the the
cottages on Grove because we gave them property. Um, and by the way, we had a meeting a lot like this at the church when we gave them the property, just so you know. Um, I know you may not know that church meetings can be like this also. Um, but this is what I want you to
know that uh, Forward Path has been an absolute blessing to our community. there. Um the site that they have presented has been um a major improvement uh in the area where our church is
located. It's a it's in a residential area. There was a lot of fear about how that would be and yet it's been a a huge huge plus. And what I've seen happen is absolutely
um nothing short of mira miraculous that what happens to to kids they're they're adults but we know they're really not who are in a position they're in through no fault of their own. They didn't do anything wrong uh other than to be born
to the wrong set of adults a lot of times. And yet, because of the work that Forward Path's done, it's turning them into productive um competent, wonderful adults. And I hope you will take the right step to provide that opportunity
here in Leburg that we have in Eustace. And um I hope I can say this. Uh I wasn't here for the prayer at the beginning, but I will be praying for y'all because I know this is a difficult decision. Good evening. My name is Louise McCllum.
I moved to Leburg seven years ago and was looking for a place to volunteer. Um, as with many senior citizens, I not only enjoy recreational
activities, but I also have the time now to give back to the community. I worked with the New York City Board of Education. I was a teacher and a teacher of teachers for many years. And I wanted
very much to work with young people. We saw homelessness. I had students who were homeless who rode the subway in New York who rode the subway leaving their homes at 4 or 5:00 in the
morning to get to school. I saw some of these homeless young people um get scholarships, one to to Stanford University. I also saw young people in homeless
shelters who who had aged out of foster care. It's a real gap in our social network. Forward paths is in this area. It is not everywhere.
Many many young people struggle without help when they age out of foster care or when they, as the pastor said, get born to the wrong set of adults.
I am a volunteer coordinator for Forward Paths, one of two. And I get phone calls all the time from people who want to who want to volunteer, who want to help, who know what our program is.
We too are an important part of the community. We too serve adults who want to contribute to the community. Our kids are in school. um most of them not in high school. We can't house
anybody under 18. So the location in relation to Leburg High School is really not a big consideration because most of our kids are in some sort of post high schooling
so that they learn the skills that they need to be independent and to function. They are supervised. We have volunteers who are what we call house parents who drop in and cook with the kids, chat with the kids,
um see that things are going well. There are many ways in which forward paths comm contributes to the community. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Good evening. Anthony Sabatini, 35 year resident of Lake County. I think I know
everybody on the D. So, thank you for your service to the city. I just, as a person who has worked and served in state and local government for the last 10 years, there's just a few things that are peculiar about this situation that I want to point out. There's 411 cities in the state of Florida. If you did this,
to my knowledge, you would be the first city in the state of >> I uh No, sorry. I think my thumb touched it. Sorry about that word. I cut off when I said 411, right? 411 cities. No cities are doing this. Okay. There are no city there are enormous amount of
cities who are trying to help the youth of the state of Florida. There's an enormous amount of cities who are giving money and property away to uplift people who are in distress. There are no cities who have walked into this fake false dichotomy of do I want to destroy a
historic parkland in order to help troubled youth or youth with bad circumstances versus the park. I mean, that's a completely completely false economy that doesn't need to exist. This whole thing is so unnecessary. So, let's talk about maybe why we got here. So, for those who have
been on this organization for a while, you know, you have fiveear strategic plans. You get a five-year park plan, fiveyear strategic plan, five-year plan for everything. Everything is planned. Everything's looked at holistically. You look at all your parks, you look at your downtown, and then you look at what you can and can't do in different areas. And
when you do that, you see that you can do a whole lot of different things to help different groups in different ways at no expense to each other. And what happened what's happened here is very quickly out of nowhere, the idea of selling this parcel to one group, giving this parcel to one group came out very
suddenly. And so the community is really trying to play catchup and the people who are in supportive are also playing catch-up. They're excited about it. But I just want to remind the council of some other options that you have as a person that works and serves in local government. You can grant the money. I used to be a used to city commissioner.
We granted money all the time to community organizations in need. They had 99 support with the public. They liked that sort of method. We'd never once ever looked at our green spaces, our devolving, disappearing, outnumbered green spaces, and said, "Let's try to
give one of those away in order to help uh an organization." And that's never happened. It's completely unnecessary. There are so many other parcels and there are so many distressed properties but in good areas where you could come in, you could acquire those properties, demolish maybe a dilapidated building
and then place these style housing again in a great neighborhood. They're just houses that people wouldn't want to invest to rehabitate in those areas. And so honestly, the best thing you could do here is show the courage to admit that this happened too quickly. take a backst
step, talk to the community and save our green spaces which are disappearing in what is now the most overdeveloped state. Uh let's do that and let's also help these people. There are so many other options. God bless you. Thank you. >> All right, seeing no more public
comments, we're going to close public comments and bring it back to the commission for discussion. >> I will. >> So, I'll go ahead and start that out if I can. >> Yes, sir. Um
when I look at uh at this issue uh to me it has always been a question of need. You know the why of the situation. The Leburg Shuffle board court brings up good points. It's about a sport to them.
It's about camaraderie. It's about socializing. It's about exercise. It's a game that they cherish and I understand that.
But for forward paths, it's about home. It's about stability. It's about safety. And it's about an opportunity to bloom.
You know, we get the why there, why there had a lot of folks come up and say, "Hey, that's just not a good idea to put it at that location." How many of those people
have ever housed foster kids or done anything to do with trying to provide this type of service? One, two, three, four. Okay.
About four of them. And somehow this location is the wrong location. Okay. I understand that the shuffleboard club wants to keep their home port
for their private club. I get that. You pay money, you pay a membership fee, that makes it a private club. >> We're going to The commissioner is talking. We have your chance. The commissioner is talking.
You schedule your tournaments. You do not schedule them through the city of Leburg. The recreation department has no idea when your tournaments are. Never has. It's a fact. We can ask our rec
director if you'd like. You do this all for no fee. It is free to you. every other facility that is owned by the city of Leburg for a recreational
facility. When tournaments come to that those facilities, there are fees associated with that for the use. Not with this one. Forward paths is about safety.
Uh they want to be close to jobs. They have uh employees currently with ROMAC, with UF Health, with Lakeport, and in the downtown area. They're close to the schools. They have
transportation, and there is food sources nearby. Who are these guys? You know, who are these two groups that were pitting against each other as everyone wants to say? So the the Leburg Shuffle board club
presented us with a roster of their membership. The roster included 73 names, two of which were highlighted out. Okay.
So I went through the list and looked up the addresses of every member of the Leburg Shuffle board. There were five members that were actually live in the city of
Leburg. That means there is only five members in the club that are paying adorum taxes to the city of Leburg. And those are the taxes that we use to pay our firemen, our police, and update
our recreational facilities. So 93% of your membership are not citizens of Leburg. Okay. Ford Path is a board of volunteers. The board receives zero dollars. Nobody
makes money. They volunteer their time. They have paid staff. Yes, they have case managers. They have a doctor of psychology and a therapist. Uh they have a variety of office staff and they have
a load of volunteers. Guidear uh is a rating service for nonforprofits. Some in here may be familiar with it, some may not. Uh, Guidestar is what people that are giving grants away, they
will go to Guidear, look up your nonforprofit and find out what kind of a rating you have. To be in Guidear, you got to let people look at your books, where the money goes, all those kind of things. So, when you go to Guidear and you look up forward paths, they have a
gold star rating. Okay? When you go to Guidear and you look up the shuffleboard port. There's no rating. There's no information. It's just a fact. It's funny, but it's
just a fact. Ford Pasque is asking for in their proposal 1.7 acres of land to be donated uh to address a known problem in Leburg. the Lake Sumpter or excuse me, the
Leburg Shuffle board uh is asking the taxpayers of the city of Leburg to resurface the courts, provide shade structures and new
lighting and make the facility ADA compliant. So, in order to make it ADA compliant, that also means fix the bathroom because it's not ADA compliant.
You guys in your presentation said, "Oh, this will only cost the taxpayers of Leburg$100,000 to $200,000." City of Leburg just built ADA compliant bathrooms at John L. Johnson Park to the
tune of $240,000. So the ask here is not about one to200,000. The ask is for more like four to500,000 to renovate courts that
are played on and utilized by a club that has 93% of its members not contributing a dime to it. I'll end with uh My last point, it if if you look at the
geographic area that your membership comes from, just take a 10,000 foot look at it and you can look down and count approximately a 100 courts
in the Leburg area. Okay. You can also uh I got this off of uh off of YouTube. I watched something that they were doing at Hawthorne that Miss Sharon Wild,
she was a I'm sorry, didn't the name right, the former vice president of the uh Leburg shuffleboard court. Um she said that uh there's only four courts
per rec center in the villages. A third of your membership is from the villages. So if there's four of these recreational reports at every rec center in the villages. If she's correct, there's 90
recreation centers in the villages. So, start doing the math on that. Add that to the hundred and I think you'll see that we're talking about 300, 400, I don't know, a lot of shuffleboards.
Okay? There is only one organization in that same geographic area that is doing anything about our homeless youth problem.
And that's why I support the option for forward pass. >> Any other commissioner comments? >> I like Commissioner >> Con. Okay. I was just But um my thoughts
after hearing everybody from the last few weeks and this decision is very difficult and you have to consider all that you hear some that you know and being a resident here from Leburg the history of the
courts on second and Palmetto have been significant part of Leburg's rich history for many years serving as recreational space for the residents of our city. Over the years, the city public works has maintained these courts for the
benefit of the community. However, it remains unclear how one organization could request exclusive use or control of the area as it has traditionally been open for shared public access.
As I mentioned earlier, when this resolution was introduced, Ford paths you young adults would be utilizing and walking the areas alongside Beacon College students, creating opportunities for positive engagement and community
integration. Times are changing and we have already seen this in other parts of the city. For example, the tennis courts behind big lots were removed years ago. Now, to make a way for a planned Susan Street
project that is coming is just an example of how we continue adapting to meet evolving community needs by supporting Ford Pass Foundation. The organization would provide would be providing young adults with access to
critical resources, placing them in a conducive environment designed to take in growth, independence, and opportunity. This location would also offer them better transportation options for reach
of jobs, schools, and other essential services. helping them would work toward a brighter and more sustainable future. This is not only an investment in land, but an investment in people, community
development, and the future success of our city's young adults. Yes. Thank you, sir. I've listened to a lot of things tonight and I' I've obviously read and listened to a lot of things over the last month
and there's a lot of misconceptions out there on one of the things and one of the things I want to just before I get to what I want to talk about is one of the misconceptions is that this is a private club that's running our shuffleable reports. Nobody else can use them. That is absolutely not true. They
have put at times a fake chain up there to try to keep the homeless from camping out on the courts. And I think that was at the direction of the city. So I don't think we can fault the shuffleboard group for putting a chain up that they
were directed to because us as a city can't keep the homeless off of it. So I want to clarify that. I keep hearing that the shuffle, this is the shuffleboard versus Ford path. There's no versus here. The shuffleboard
courts have been there for 50 years. This is for path coming in deciding they want our shuffleboard courts. I've never heard of an organization that is bold enough just to come in and say, "We want a portion of your recreational
property. Give it to us." I'm open to donating other properties to ford bath but not our recreational property. There has been other properties have been spoke about on donating to ford bath. One of the pieces is behind our
resource center. And let me tell you a little bit about our resource center. And this is why I think it'd be an ideal location for is a resource center's 8,900 square feet of multi-purpose building that includes meeting rooms, computer training spaces,
and resource offices. This is all coming right off our our website. The resource center partners with nonprofit organizations, governmental agencies, churches, civic groups, Lake Technical College, Career Source Central
Florida, Mobile Access Assistance of Florida, Lake County Public Schools, and Lake County Government and Housing Services. The resource center is a familyfriendly accessible place that offer services and activities to enhance education and
employment skills. All of this would be accessible to Ford Path within about a 15-second walking distance if they were to locate to this site. I think it sounds like an ideal location. Isn't this what this program's
kind of all about? And we have a resource center that could be right there to do this. The site of Palmetto, it's a recreational complex. It's not a subdivision.
The shuffleboard brings people to the city. It's it's it's it's a form of recreational tourism. No different than what we're trying to accomplish at Susan Street. I will assure you the 11 million dollars the city's putting into Susan Street,
99% of the people that will use these soccer and rugby fields will not be Leburg residents. This should not have anything to do with well do away with the shuffle board course because 90% of the people that use them don't live in the city. It's recreational tourism.
That's what we're trying to establish. I hate don't do I do not like double standards. Susan Street was sold on recreational tourism, but now all of a sudden we're going to say because 90% of the people shovel court don't live in the city to
hell with them. It's wrong. Former pass proposals states that the property will not be sold before a housing plan is completed. What does that mean? Sold.
I I I don't understand that. And and a housing plan because you get some plans drawn up and all of a sudden you can sell it. I mean, that's what the proposal says. They won't sell it until the housing plans are completed. They shouldn't be allowed to sell a piece of property it's given to them to
start with. The next item I am disappointed with with our city staff on why they felt like they needed to make a recommendation on this matter. I'm not sure why they felt like they need to weigh in on this.
The recommendation was to give it to for path from staff. I'd like I have several questions on this. What recognized method and framework was used by staff when choosing to give this property to Ford path? Was there a recognized method that
was that was used? If it was, there was nothing in the commission pack. I would like to see it. I mean, what was used? A swag method. The resolution that was prepared for tonight has several statements in it I
find highly questionable. The first statement in the resolution says several reasons why to give this property to for path. Donating the property to ford path will improve the overall quality of life for residents,
visitors and business owners. How is that? How do you measure that? by giving the property a forward path is going to increase the overall quality of life of residents, visitors, and business owners.
That's not even measurable. The next statement in the resolution that makes no sense to me. One of the reasons to give this property away is the city's continuing to incur in expenses association with the maintenance and repair of the shuffle
boards. Okay. So, we need to give it away because this is costing us a fortune to maintain this according to resolution. Well, the truth is it's only it only only cost the city about $7,000 a year for maintenance of the shuffleboard
courts. $7,000 a year. But this is a reason we should give it away. This is $7,000 a year out of a budget of a proposed budget this year of $232 million. And we're worried about it's costing $7,000 a year, so we need to give it
away because of that. What the resolution says, highly questionable. I have brought this up before, but I'm going to bring it up again tonight because all this stuff is highly questionable to me. Why did staff run a notice in the paper stating it was the
intent of the Leburg Commission to dispose of this property without a vote from the commission that that was our intent? I don't know why that notice ever went out. The next question I would have, why was this not sent to our parks and wreck advisory board to get their
recommendation? It's recreational property. Why was it never sent there? I have no idea why it wasn't. Next item, it's in the agenda tonight. Why is staff already prepared a warranty deed filled
out to for path? It's all ready to go. The only thing it needs to do is a date needs to be put in and a signature. The warranty deed is already done. Why? I mean, we we haven't even had this discussion or a vote, but the warranty deed is already ready to go. I question that.
I'm glad that for path didn't demand Pat Thomas, Sleepy Hollow, Susan Street, or Ski Beach. And if they had, would we give that to them? This is no different. It's recreational property. Staff has continued to push giving this
property to Ford Path. Why? I don't know why. That's a question. There's a petition that's been submitted in, signed by almost 900 people asking us to not give these shuffleable reports away. I hope the commission will take
that in consideration tonight. In closing, Bor Path has other options to build this subdivision on and they choose not to. This property has housed our shuffleboard ports for over 50 years and
we need to keep it. A vote tonight, a a no vote tonight on giving this property away is not a vote against Forward Path. It's a vote against the location of where Forward Path wants to go. And I hope the commission considers that, too. We're
not voting that we don't like Ford Path, that we don't want For Path. A v a a no vote tonight is a vote that we don't want it in our recreational complex and losing our shuffle boards. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner C. We're going
to refrain from clapping. We're going to refrain from clapping and be respectful of both sides and all opinions. Thank you, Commissioner. >> Yeah, I I I have some comments. Um, you know, first of all, for myself and all the fellow commissioners, you know, this is a no-win situation. I I respect and
appreciate all the passion on on all sides. Um yeah, forward pass. Okay, let me back up a little bit more. I started this disaster in July of this year in budget just lobbed out the idea of replacing
shuffle board with pickle ball. Um I like a lot of people did not think it was being used. Um, you know, I found out about the club, obviously. I've I've I know a lot about Leburg Shuffber Club now. Um, for Forward Pass is is a great
organization. You know, I' I've learned all about them the last three to five years. Um, I do know they've been looking for sites in Leburg for five years at least. Um, when this site first was brought up, I
did, you know, look at other sites, I even posted other sites to them. Um, as I got feedback, I received feedback on those sites. You know, I understand there why they like this site. Um, the
the walkability factor, the proximity to downtown. um that there's a lot it's it's a good it it I bought into it being a good location after I tried to push them to about six other sites around town. Um the homeless situation um in our city
I've been on the commission six and a half years. When I first got on the commission that was something that I wanted to try to improve upon. Uh I think our commission talked about it uh and COVID came along and it just fell by the wayside and we it's kind of
resurfacing a little bit of late. Um I look at this organization um you know if it it's not going to answer it's not going to solve all our homeless problems but this is a step in the right direction for our city and we have to start doing something about the homeless. Um people have said you know
well I don't want you to donate property to a nonprofit. I will go on the record and say that I will be very open-minded to supporting cash or you know money or land to any group who wants to help us tackle homeless. Just because you put homeless titles in your group doesn't mean I'm going to support it. But you
come to me with a good argument to help improve our homeless situation. I am open-minded. Um the residents of the city want us to, you know, continue to make progress in that area. Um pickle ball. Um I started this with
pickle ball. Um, so I've taken calls from everybody calls. You still hear me? Okay. Um, but the, um, what was I going to say there? Um, oh, so in this process in budget this
year, uh, we did, it's in the budget. The budget's not approved, but we have a million dollars for pickle ball. So, um, and and I I see us building pickle ball courts on, uh, you know, to the north of this property. Um,
I guess last, I would say I, as to the shelfboard club, there's not much I can say because I'm not going to be popular with the shuffleboard club, but there are other locations to practice. Uh there are two other locations in Leburg that can host tournaments. So it's hard for me to feel like they've been you
know really you know damaged all that that much. Um you know in in enclosure I am going to support forward pass. We I do want to talk about one thing on the on the contract. Um I think at one time there was a there was ask to break ground in five years. I would like to
see that shortened to like two two and a half years something like that. Maybe I'm wrong. That was brought up in a discussion. I don't know if it was on the if it's on the if that's part of the approval tonight, but it's my understanding that Ford Pass has the money. I just don't I just didn't like the idea of five years, you know, to
break ground. I welcome any comments and maybe that was not brought into this resolution. >> Yes, sir. Commissioner, there is a fiveyear uh period that's in the resolution. um five years I believe is 50% of
building permits need to be issued within five years uh to comply with the requirement that's written into the res >> and I just asked a question is there flexibility on that >> you just need to make a motion to amend the resolution the there there's basically three supplementals
requirements that was an exhibit to the warranty de >> okay I'm sorry I've missed that >> one of them was the time frame so you would just need to make a a motion to amend the five years to two and a half and and and grant reference uh building
permits needed. So your intent would just be change that five to two and a half. I think it's one of it's one there was three there was three ex three items in the exhibit. I think the other related to easements
for utilities parking um and and the non-transferability non-transferability that's right that's another There would be an automatic reversion back to the city. If there is a >> no question the transferability in his statements, but it's clearly expressed
in the warranty that they cannot sell or transfer the the ownership of the gift. It has to stay with >> and transfer is is very broadly defined as far as what would characterize a transfer. That's right. >> You defined all sorts of different ways.
>> Okay. And I see that attachment now. Um I'm I'm just raising the question. Um and and I will make the motion that we amend it uh where it passed. I'm helping me out here. Um I'm going to say is the right word break ground or is it >> I would just change the number. I think
I think the CO there's going to be a number of permits they need. So it's 50% of those permits and so you would just need to amend the the the the six it's five years written in there. So just Okay. From five years to 30 months. >> Okay. So that's my motion right there.
Well, >> and that's in uh excuse me, I'm sorry. That's in uh number one on exhibit A, the use and construction requirement. And that is I'll just read that out. Grantee shall promptly submit a site
plan for evaluation by the city of Leburg and shall apply for a development permit or building permit for not less than 50% of the planned units within five years from the execution date of the deed to which these covenants are attached and incorporated with time
being of the essence. >> Okay. So, so my motion is just to amend that from five years to two and a half years. >> Um, can I can I get my comments in real quick? >> I'm sorry. >> Can I get my comments in real quick? >> Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry. So, um, obviously I want to thank everyone for being respectful tonight. I know it's
tough with being both sides and having strong opinions on both sides. Um, this obviously is really passionate when it comes to Ford Pass because my sister and her family have fostered over 31 kids and they still have adopted four and
they still fight for foster kids today. And they have a foundation that provides all kinds of things for our foster kids. And um I've lived that for the last 18 years with her, so I see it. Um and I also one one other thing is I know this is in our
downtown CRA and this does comply with everything that that CRA stands for when it comes to the redevelopment in that area. That's all I had to say. If commission comments are done, then we would take these mics.
>> Yeah. If you wanted to make a motion to amend, then that that would be okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, I do want to make a motion to amend uh the the uh the resolution to reduce the uh the five years to a two and a half years on the uh help me out grant permits and 50%.
>> Sure. It would be that uh rather than the five-year requirement, it would be shortened to two and a half years on uh requirement number one on the covenants. >> Okay. Thank you. So, we have a motion on the floor to reduce it from five years to two and a half years. Do we have a second on that motion?
>> I'll second it. >> So, we have a motion on the floor and a second from 5 years to 2 and 1/2 years. Any discussion? >> Seeing none. Roll call on the amended motion. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. >> Commissioner Conell, >> no. >> Commissioner Bur,
>> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Mayor Reese, >> yes. And now we need a vote on the original motion. >> Commissioner Conell, >> no. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry,
>> yes. >> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. We'll move along toformational reports. Uh, any questions on theformational reports? I did have a question. I know we we sent some stuff. I'm going to ask that the
audience remain quiet. We're still in session. I'm I'm going to request that you remain quiet. We are still in session. Thank you. Um theformational reports, we sent some stuff to the for attorney review. Have we heard back on any of those?
>> Sorry, Mr. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. Uh did you have any specific reports? You had a question on >> Well, like the ones that were sent for for attorney for collections when it >> Oh, yeah. We uh we actually have gotten and and I don't have a good clear answer on all of those items for you tonight. I'll certainly check on that and follow
up with you. We did get payment from some of those. So, we we kind of got a mixed bag on that. Uh some paid, some did not. So, we need to take a look at those that are still delinquent and come up offline. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Any other questions on theformational reports?
Seeing none. City attorney items. >> Okay. Your mic. Uh, no. I'm having trouble with my microphone. Uh, no. Uh, no, no reports, uh, this evening, Mr. Mayor, commissioners, uh, thank you for your time. Thank you for everything. Uh, always reach out if you have any
questions or need anything. >> Thank you, city attorney. City manager items. >> No items. >> Thank you. Uh, roll call. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> nothing tonight. Commissioner Barry, I just would like to thank the city for
sponsoring me for the dancing with the stepping out for education. I have had a written thank you to Reed, but I won't take any more of anybody's time, but to publicly say thank you for your support and I the
opportunity of representing the city. Thank you. >> Thank you for representing us. and she won first place in the women's sec the second night. >> Yes. Congratulations. >> Commissioner Conell >> after tonight. I don't know what I can possibly say.
>> Commissioner Bur, >> nothing tonight. >> Mayor Reese, >> just want to say thank you again to Senator Trout and Representative Cobb for the legislative funding. Uh, a couple other things, commissioners. We have the Thursday morning is the chamber breakfast at 7 a.m. Also on Wednesday is
the groundbreaking for the marina. Hopefully we can see you all there. And then lastly, uh September 5th is opening night for the Melon Patch. Uh with that, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Meeting adjourned.