##VIDEO ID:MhjV9TNINqk## if we dig further what you'll discover is that about a third of the tickets submitted to Eustace were submitted by the same user 29 times we see this Behavior throughout the data sets with miniola experiencing the highest single user reporting resulting in about 33% of their submissions being driven by one user if we go one step further and dissect the city of taries what you will find is the adoption rate is being driven by internal staff their internal staff really loves this product they get a lot of use out of it in their facilities works department um but a lot of the numbers that you're seeing for the adoption rate are driven by staff currently citizens can report issues via email phone text myg and the citizen information portal on the website to add this additional revenue of reporting would cost around 20K per year and that breaks down to paying about $90 per submission through C click fix assuming an average month uh of submittal of 20 go and click it that's it anybody have any questions I ask for this again I think it is a clear difference between gov text and this this is a reporting agency it that opens gives our residents an opportunity to have a little more transparency in communication and a clear line of communication a lot of residents reach out to me and go how do I report this and then you send them to the website and I'm techsavvy but they have no idea there's so many many different steps on the website where do you find it so many clicks I think an app would be really beneficial um I have a lot of people here tonight that I've talked to and that they would like to see it implemented okay um and I is there a contract Miss Sonia yes there would be a contract one-ear contract so after one year we don't see a benefit we could always terminate can you um bring up the slideshow back up for [Music] me I just want to put that up there for commissions you can see the adoption R um Eustace I think it was Eustace had a really strong marketing campaign they campaigned it across social media same we did same thing we did with texmo their adoption rate is still sitting at about 1.4 percent of their population any other any comments from the commission so run that by me 1.4 there are op option right meaning only 1.4% of CI citizens are utilizing this and that's since 21 is that what okay and that's adjusted for the individuals calling in numerous complaints I think is not that is so that includes a gentleman who could call in 39 or text 39 we assuming these adoption rates are single user so if You Dig Down Deeper the adoption rate goes lower because we do have across all of these uh cities users that are issuing multiple complaints and also I think it's to varies is actually has a user that they've created internally that's driving those numbers up so you're saying like sorry you're saying like so an internal user AKA staff could log in and that's would be an easier way for staff to report these issues right okay right right as I said tar uh their internal staff really likes it which is uh why you see their their complaints driven so high I think they've got a user that's city of taries is that that user yeah are we being asked to approve like moving forward or a contract or is this a is this done deal yes we're yes mayor reesman asked that uh you all revisit this again um the the only surprise in the presentations I thought the number was 10 not 20 um and I'm I'm hit in the middle of your presentation there yes so I mean at that you know so it is again it's a reasonable tool I think think um as far as receiving input from the public and some means so it's it within a budget authority of myself so as long as there's consensus to move forward with it and we we can execute the contracts but uh because we brought it before the commission and I think there were some differing opinions where you wanted to go hence why the mayor asked for you guys to review it again so yet so the answer to your question yes if you guys are are good with it I a cons kind of just a consent not of approval will be okay and I can manage to execute these contracts under my authority I recall discussing it and and I was open-minded um I guess I don't my gut reaction is it's not very effective uh not very cost effective I am intrigued by staff liking it and benefiting from it and if you you know if you tell me Mike it is probably costeffective just a staff alone that would probably sway me but 1.4% in Eustace after Extreme marketing I'm not very impressed I'll stop right there let let other Commissioners chime in how how would we get the information out to the customers to the public website uh and leg front TV and I think this is something we also when they come and sign up for utilities we tell them about all of our options for this gex things like that yeah we can do utility stuff for could we stick at something in the utility bills as well okay and what was the cost on this item now what what are we 17 to 2 17 to 25 Okay so you're about 20 grand 17 to 25 to maybe reach you 1% 1.4 and that's it the same person is not using it 50% of the time yeah yeah I'm not real impressed no I'm not neither no do we have any public comment on this no do we have one do we know how can you come up to the mic Miss Simpson if you would state your name and address for the record sorry Dina Simpson renew Desa um 214 West Main Street so a quick question do we know how Eustace sent this out to the public for them to get it because if they didn't have a good campaign and we're basing our thoughts or questions on how usus did it I just don't know I don't want to put words in her mouth but she commented they had a very good marketing campaign um very itar oh tares I'm sorry I'm sorry and I think we all get calls I get calls all the time of how do we do this what do we do how do we go about this and then instead of explaining it to the person because there's so many steps we usually handle it ourselves I think if you say hey send them a link or a text of download the app and submit it I think that clears up and that would alleviate a lot of calls on our end too I'll be the first one to say that I've texted Allan a couple of times like just say hey who is the person who I contact for instance remember the one time I was pulling out of the high school right I was pulling I don't even know what street it's called I'm sorry but I was pulling out of the high school and I was getting ready to make a left onto 44 heading out back towards the villages area and I could not see to the right at all and I got into the middle of the street and the reason why I couldn't see is the brush had grown up and over the sidewalk so the sidewalk really wasn't accessible and I couldn't turn around and see the street to see any oncoming traffic until I got out into the middle and the next thing I knew an 18-wheeler was there and I was like oh hello and it was just something silly that maybe like a tree or bush needed to be trimmed down a little bit but I didn't know what are what's the proper channels and I didn't want to to go on mute ears either because I thought that was kind of a dangerous intersection there thank you Miss thank you I just I have another question um I'm looking at the table average per month on Eustace 9.5 is that the number of people who every month okay so it is the the 1.4 based on 364 is it the 1.4 is based on the 24,000 residents in Rel in relation to 364 complaints okay and we're assuming that's one complaint per citizen so taries did a a much better job about pushing this program out they did they got about four times more people to participate so they had 4% 5% they did but a lot of their use is also internal driven their facility team really likes it and that's really where you may get some traction I don't know the current facility team's work flows or how they're functioning um it may be a product that they they could really use I just don't know that answer okay but the numbers for for to varies the higher numbers are internal use is what you're saying hi there Jesse Flynn 2204 Vine Street um um what going back to what Dina was saying um I actually had to call alen the other day because um lone o which is a major thoroughfare coming through lesburg um the lights are the the markings on the road are not visible there's four patches in the road we have two potholes and we had a street light out um these are all things where I feel like this program could be used well for it because instead of me having to call him or trying to play phone tag it'd be easier to upload this and just have it sent out so thank you can I speak to you yeah Melissa McCracken McCracken's Pub um I definitely think a billboard would help let people know that this exists or on the message when you call into the City and say uh you they you get sent to the operator could say hey something you want to report download this app and do it now because if you've already put it in utility bills I get bills every month and I haven't seen it so maybe we're missing um I don't I don't watch Lakefront TV I don't have cable so I wonder if there other opportunities to let the public know that it exists say again it doesn't exist I about it doesn't exist yeah but you were saying that that you were trying to find out if people would be interested in it right okay yeah good afternoon not that I'm here on this matter but um I'm a resident of taries and I actually have it on my phone you can pay your utility bill with it and it's very very helpful and yes staff does use it only because it alleviates multiple steps within their internal system in addressing concerns we actually brought it into Lake County I happen to been sitting in the city council when it came aboard and it it's been very useful for us like I said you can even pay your utility bill online with it yeah my understanding is you can have some quick reference links on the homepage exactly miss miss miss l a few back probably six or seven years back um the chamber had had done a similar campaign for in the Berg uh app maybe some of you still have it on your phone um but that was kind of similar to what they were trying to get people to adopt was application on the phone to push out information is Staff recommending this sta has no okay no good evening everyone um my name is Kiana rubenfeld 94 Z Bell Oak Drive just u a couple quick questions maybe what and I'm new to lebur once again so I don't know this right now um what is the budget for the year the city 187 million okay all right my little libertarian intuition self wanted to kind of think about this more but how much is it 205 okay right it's always good to give it to private people to fix the roads and stuff but I mean it's you guys are the experts you guys are the super experts so I'm just curious to learn more thank you you that I think it sounds like a great idea like as the physical product I support this product I don't know if we have three other Commissioners that would support or two other Commissioners that would support this if not then it will no no okay all right we'll move on uh public comments this section is reserved for members of the public thank you Miss for the public to bring up matters of concern and opportunities for praise please that issues raised during this time will not be discussed in detail during the current meeting they will either be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration at a future city commission meeting each speaker is allowed allocated three minutes to provide their comments kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity for all participants and to support the efficient conduct of the meeting thank you do we have any public comments this evening if you would just state your name and address for the record before you speak thank you [Music] hello my name is Nicole King and I reside at 25822 pineur Street in sento Florida 32776 um I'm a practicing registered nurse in this County this is the second council meeting that I've attended to address the current concerns on fluoride bear with me I know that you guys decided to move forward with this however as a nurse it would be against how we perform our duties to not to continue to educate Advocate and provide informed consent I'm here today to ask this committee to please consider working with your residents and accepting more opportunities to learn about the risk of fluoride being put in the water system many of us spoke about this the last time and there were some uh comments made that it was there was more uh benefits versus risks they will tell you that the fluoride in the water is what is be what is best for your vulnerable communities and that it decreases Toth Decay and Cavities however um they're not addressing the root cause of the issues and they're dis dismissing the other side saying that we were misinformed and we were using fear to educate and I wanted to comment on that because in healthcare we don't use fat uh we use facts not feelings when informing our communities of their risk versus benefit in choosing Medical Care and all individuals should have the right to choose what medical interventions are presented to them yes the fluoride has been deemed a medical Intervention which is prescribed by a physician or dentist neodata and evidence-based studies suggest that there may be more harm than good and putting and keeping fluoride in the public water systems the other side will tell you that there's data that proves that fluoride is safe and effective however they will never um ad that it is actually a neurotoxin and when we know better we do better by definition a neurotoxin is a substance that is harmful to the nervous system this means that repeated exposure regardless of how you're regulating it over periods of time could cause widespread central nervous system damage this can include learning disabilities memory loss fractur seizures dementia just to name a few this is what we call informed consent these are documented and published potential adverse outcomes of fluoride toxicity are the leberg res residents aware that fluoride has been deemed a public health hazard due to a recent Federal court judge ruling in September of 2024 communities must be informed what's being put in their water where chlorine is treating the water fluoride is treating the people the rebuttal was is that it is well regulated and where that may be true in its production you cannot regulate how much the public is ingesting through their Public Water Systems Robert Kennedy Jr um has also voiced his concerns on fluoride as well as our state Surgeon General um Dr Joseph lpo who has said to have our state cities and municipalities to remove fluid from our Public Water Systems as we are seeing that there could be more damage more harm than good because it has been deemed a neurotoxin so current to date City uh counties in the entire state that are fluoride free are 36 and I'm just really hopeful that leberg will consider um being a little bit more open to discussing this matter further and joining the other counties in remaining fluoride free I appreciate your time thank you thank you Miss King hi um trani M6 Georgia Avenue in leeburg um I have two two questions um I was told that the storm that happened with Milton was only a 500e storm and um that's why I area flooded is that right Mr Al I think there's more detail than that but it was a significant storm and that's why your area flooded yes okay so I talked to the surveyor um about three days ago and he told me that the flooding while we are flooding in that area is because the drain on my side of the street and the drain on the other side of the street is leveled and if you want the water to flow it has to be unleveled so that's why the water is flooding our street and we have on 9007 in front of 907 there is a sink hole can anybody tell me what's going on about that Cliff did you know about the sinkhole is that so that that'll be something we have to investigate what was the address 907 um Georgia Avenue there's a the road is like corroding I have pictures of um the water sitting stagnant in our drains it is stink and um I know that y'all are working on it I don't know uh what happened over the holidays or whatever but this this has to be fixed I think staff is aware of it and we'll get on that thank you thank you mayor commission um my name is Lou buas and I'm the district aid for uh representative Nan Cobb um representative Cobb asked me to come out and um introduce ourselves our office will be at the commission meetings once a month um our primary goal is to assist the constituents any any issues they have as well as as yourself so please don't hesitate to reach out um representative Cobb would be here herself but she is in committee week that started today and is pretty busy out there working for all of Lake County residents so please don't hesitate to reach out to any of us if we can be of any help and you'll be seeing us in the audience once a month thank you thank you Miss Bo I haded my baby good news yay and um she actually came the very next day after I was last here um for those of you who don't know I was here about a month ago very pregnant very worried about the floid in our water as well um I would also like to make comments um revisiting that situation I live 940 Bell Oak Drive oh now I can hear myself okay and yeah um the arguments given in the past have their logic had their time and just with new information coming to light new access to information many things remain arguably debate debatable but I just don't want to jeopardize that my baby's going to have a who is now going to be a month Friday um that she's GNA have some sort of treacherous results based on this and all over the water and I don't want her to have lower IQ and we just want everybody as healthy as possible if we can agree on that um yeah I would just love to revisit this conversation thank you so much thank [Music] you hi I'm Karen Motley I live at 2445 Fairington Drive to fairies Florida and I also was here for the fluoride conversation and I'd like to revisit it again um I'm a registered nurse we're trained to treat the entire person and I know that the dental the Ada is interested in it for the teeth and only the teeth but you're taking this in your entire body and it does affect your entire body your all your systems there are uh holistic dentist in the State of Florida and others that have listed they don't use the fluoride at all in their practice because they found that there are uh side effects that happen it can affect uh it can cause cancer brain damage high blood pressure increased risk of heart attack heart failure Strokes increased risk of developing Peripheral arterial disease diabetes kidney disease thyroid disease and um fluoride is deemed as a drug by the FDA and because it is for the person's health not for you to maintain clean drinking water for us and so there's no way you can control the amount of fluoride that each individual person consumes so I know that there's regulation out there with EPA on the amount of fluoride that's allowed and they also had with the fluoride Action Network a lawsuit that started in 2016 and then they started having the hearings in 2020 they had expert Witnesses and in September 24th 2024 the final judgment came down that judgment was uh a US federal court deemed for floration an unreasonable risk to the health of children the EPA will be forced to regulate as such so right now the dosage is 0.7 milligrams per liter so what really truly is a safe dose and I know in a health care profession our motto is Do no harm so I feel like the best recommendation would be do Do no harm if you're in doubt don't put it in the water um the adult will accumulate fluoride in their body healthy kidneys excrete 50 to 60% but infants and children's excrete less fluoride so fluoride concentration in the bone steadily increases over your lifetime I also have here which I'll give to you four ,800 other Health Care Professionals including dentists that have recommendations not have did the thank you missley any other public comments this evening yes ma'am yes I'm Michelle Diggs live at 11650 Huggin Street leeburg and my question is to commissioner Barry especially is why are you so determined to force this up on us with the Flite this is a time to uh as the agenda said this isn't a time to question Commissioners okay okay the other thing is is has there been any B will he'll answer okay um do you know the US Department of Health and Human Services who that is yes okay the national toxicology program you know who they are is it with that so uh when it says in here uh it's important to note that there are insufficient data to determine if the low fluoride level of 0.7 milligrams per liter uh currently recommended by the US Community water uh supplies has a negative effect on children's IQ okay we're not talking about children though we're talking about adults also I thought we're talking about a lot of things yes adult also we're talking about putting fluoride in the water which is a naturally occurring your water has fluoride in it with or without what leberg does you understand that right that it's naturally occurring we are simply adjusting the rate to have approximately guessing a 25% reduction in Dental carries in children that's why we're doing it okay okay I was wondering is there any data on how fluoride mixes with medications there are quite a few of us who take medications and I'm wondering the mix of it I know you're probably out there with me too but I mean I'm not your question is is there any drug interactions with fluide yes not that I'm a aware of uh I mean I think there's been uh 70 years of this being done I'm a pharmacist and I'm I'm not aware of any uh any interactions with a 0.7 parts per Mrs I just I don't know Mrs mle just gave you the uh side effects of it through overtime no there's nothing factual over time at the levels we're talking about that's what I just read to you there's nothing factual about that okay good evening I'm Mary Beth Harvey I live at 9914 Oak Drive in lebur and I also would like to address the fluoridation issue um I have here and I'll I don't know if I made enough copies but this is the guidance for Community water fluoridation uh on the Florida Health site it's dated November 22nd 2024 and it lists about six or seven different studies um of regarding children and pregnant women and fluoridation and how it one of the points that I like to look at is that um it's not just one source that is contributing to fluoridation when you consider that they're getting it in their water in water added foods and beverages teas toothpaste uh floss and mouthwash these are all the things that cause the total to be unacceptable and exceed safe amounts so I will leave this with you but there there are a number of studies here that where it shows that um children's IQ has been affected the Mexico City uh published this in 2017 uh Canadian cross study showed ADHD as a result of fluoridation and um there's a can a 2023 Canadian study showed a decreased child inhibitory control and cognitive flexibility uh jamama has said that there they find higher prenatal fluid exposure was associated with children with neuro behavioral problems in Los Angeles so there are studies and our the State of Florida is requesting that floration be removed from cities population water and so it just doesn't make sense to me when our federal our state government is asking us to remove it that we would be spending lots of money to add it knowing that there's definite risks thank [Music] you thank [Music] you I'm Robin Woods 1600 bordo Drive um my comment begins with um um talking Common Sense taking a common sense approach to Public Health in lesburg number one clean water is a need fluoride is not a need the citizens well to illustrate this idea I'll tell you a story imagine you're finding a community to live you heard a beautifully you heard of a beautifully natural distilled and filtered spring which makes your skin soft and your hair shine and when you drink it you feel refreshed and it tastes so good the community boasts of beautiful gardens healthy children you set your Des dination for this town but on the way there you see a town with a sign which boasts clean water with added fluoride you consider then you pass another town with a sign says clean water with vitamin C you consider that option then you pass a third Town buzzing with all sorts of activities and the water tower has printed in giant letters caffeinated you have several options to consider your children have a couple small cavities so fluoride looks appealing or maybe a constant dose of vitamin C would keep the immune system supported and then again you do have a hard time waking up in the morning and afternoons you get so tired which one would you pick the reality of that scenario is you actually have a choice when leberg RES when leberg rant consider what would they choose and why many juices and drinks are marketed and sold with vitamin C or caffeinated why doesn't Pepsi or Zephyr Hills add a bit more fluoride to their Beverages and Market them for dental health perhaps they might have to put a label on it harmful if swallowed when I was newly married my husband introduced me to Rainbow Springs we grew up here in lesburg and we went to places like Wet n Wild and um Wild Waters but I felt jipped as a resident of Central Florida never before visiting Rainbow Springs it was beautiful our family enjoy swimming kayaking snorkeling and tubing in its clear clean Waters I can imagine the residents prize their real estate living on this clear clean flowing river do you wonder if they've ever considered adding Industrial Waste or fluoride to it perhaps instead of adding chemicals to our water for the benefit of a few pediatricians pediatric dentists dentists and pharmacists advised that the residents of leberg to use fluoride toothpaste and just swallow a little bit of it people could still choose whether they want or need it and manage their dosage but I recommend to you all to keep additives out of our drinking water clean pure water is a prized asset for our community and it's fundamental for public health so please consider a motion to stop moving forward with installing this equipment I support Mr canel's idea to sell and repurpose the equipment and grieve whatever losses may not be compensated we forgive you for your hasty decision to impose this not so good on idea on us and purchase [Music] it good evening my name is Mary nolles I live at 1525 Park Drive in leeburg I also have many concerns about the addition of fluoride to the water in the city of leeburg when you think about reducing cavities and adding fluoride that might sound like a wonderful idea and I'm assuming that our Target group is children and young people and no we don't want our little children and our young people to have cavities but I have a few questions how many of them are drinking that water in significant amounts to make a difference how many instead are drinking juices and canned drinks so if that's what your target is are you meeting your Target also what about the people on the other end of the spectrum who drinking mostly water they're drinking tea and coffee made with City water are they getting higher concentrations than recommended water that's boiled does does not lose its fluoride No in fact the boiling creates higher levels yes so City Water that's used in cooking making beverages such as tea or coffee would have even greater concentrations what about these babies if they're given formula that's made with City water are they getting fluoride at levels that will affect them in negative ways their delicate digestive systems could be and every system of Their little bodies could be negatively affected what about people with digestive issues those people could have even more problems because fluoride can impact your gut microbiome and cause gut inflammation what about people with skin sensitivities they can have even more problems because of their exposure because they're using that water to bathe in okay what about water filters most water filters are ineffective at removing fluoride so those that don't want the added fluide they don't have anything they can do about that there's no other option for them lastly how are other communities and even other countries handling this situation many of other communities are backing away from it and many European countries have stopped adding Florine so I have to ask you do the potential benefit of adding fluoride outweigh the possible negative side effects is medicating the whole population the most coste effective and efficient way to help reduce Dental cavities thank you any other public comments thank you we'll move on to the consent agenda yeah on the on the consent agenda I'm yeah okay I'm asking if the commission will pull items five C4 5 C5 and 5 C6 uh those were items with um some additional uh contractual employment in uh help in the building department uh there was a couple items in there that were incomplete so we need to re have those items removed we'll get those items uh in a more complete form and bring it back to you at the next meeting all right thank you uh the consent agenda routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting if the commission or staff wish to discuss any items the procedure is as follows one pull the item or items from the consent agenda two vote on remaining items with one roll call vote three discuss each item pulled and vote by roll call are there any items the Commissioners would like to pull this evening 5 B1 please 5 B1 any other items all right can we get a motion to approve the consent agenda so moved second roll call commissioner canel yes commissioner bur yes yeah commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes mayor rean yes would someone please introduce 5 B1 to be introduced I'll introduce has be read by title only uh purchase request for commission approval for Bright View landscape services to maintain seven City areas for the amount of 582,000 yes I'd like to motion for approval second I'd like to um question the the email that was the schedule for the City of leeburg Lake um Landscape Maintenance I was just curious for the area six add additional areas could you explain what those areas are or what it leaves an opening to add any other areas so so bright view Works in all of the areas where we've landscaped Dixie uh 44127 intersection uh down 441 in in various areas we've also leaned on Bright View for um some fill in the Gap type help because we've been we've still been unsuccessful in getting all our maintenance worker one positions filled so breit View's been filling in the Gap there so I believe the question you're asking is just a an opener in the contract so that if we need to add anything during the year we stick that in okay and that is to be submitted in writing or how does it work okay that's that's what I needed thank you any public comments on this item seeing none uh roll call commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner conell yes mayor rean yes we're going to move to 6A we have second readings we have none and we're going to then to 6B first readings um if I could ask the City attorney to swear in anyone who would be speaking on these items this evening yes sir thank you Mr Mayor if there's anyone present this evening that wishes to speak on item 6 B3 which is the leather leaf PUD if you would please stand and raise your right hand so you could be sworn in all right do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth all right thank you very much they good to go Mr Mayor and just a reminder for everyone item 6b2 the large scale com plan Amendment would need a motion to transmit to the reviewing agencies tonight uh to send that and keep it moving along would someone please introduce 6b1 6b2 and 6 B3 introduce uh 6b1 2 and three as they be read by title only 6b1 an ordinance of the city of lesburg Florida annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 77.5 plus minus Acres being JY located south of County Road 33 West of US Highway 27 and north of County Road 48 lying in sections 14 and 15 Township 20 South Range 24 East Lake County Florida providing that said property so Annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said City provided that such annexed property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of leeburg at the time of Passage and approval of said laws and ordinances provided that such Annex territory shall be placed in City commission District 3 and providing an effective date 6b2 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of leeburg changing the future land use map designation of certain real property consisting of approximately 77.5 plusus Acres being generally located south of County Road 33 West of US Highway 27 and north of County Road 48 ly in sections 14 and 15 Township 20 South Range 24 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date 6 B3 an ordinance of the city of lebur Florida changing the zoning on approximately 77.5 plus minus Acres from Lake County a agriculture to City of leeburg PUD planed unit development to allow for 235 detached single family residences 48 paired Villas plus 120,000 square fet of amenities medical office office and retail sales and service for a property generally located south of County Road 33 West of US Highway 27 and north of County Road 48 lying in sections 14 and 15 Township 20 South Range 24 East Lake County Florida and providing an effective date all right and Dan do we have a presentation this evening thank you [Music] thank you Mr Mayor Commissioners Dan Miller Planning and Zoning uh this project is known as the leather leaf project as our city clerk stated it's an annexation um large scale comp plan and rezoning of 77 plus or minus acres north of County Road 48 and sort of south and east of County Road 33 again 235 detached single family residences 48 paired Villas which is another way of sand duplex and 120,000 ft of amenities uh basically medical office general office sales services that kind of thing uh and the large scale comp plan is asking to go from Lake County Regional commercial to City of leeburg General commercial the Reese owning is requesting to go from Lake County a agriculture to City of lebor planned unit development under the Pud requirements The Proposal will consist of in 235 detached single family residences 48 paired Villas 120,000 ft of commercial uses that completes all of the uses that be that would be permitted the lot sizes would be 50 and 60 feet wide for the single family units 60 ft wide for the duplex units front setbacks and lot widths are going to be 25 ft and 120 feet respectively house sizes are, 1600 and 1700 square ft² for the single families and and 1 1300 ft² for the duplex units there would be two off street parking spaces for each unit and two floors as a maximum height of this development approximately six acres are proposed to be devoted to commercial Enterprises that's along the County Road 48 which is down here on the bottom excuse me right along here along 48 so a little about six acres right in there um that would be space for restaurant offices Etc The Proposal does have design and Architectural standards which are required and there are facade shown in exhibit u d we do require dark skylighting on all our developments now each lot single family lot and duplex lot is required to have trees in each yard again 35% of the space of the entire property must be an open space and there's a 25 foot landscaper landscape buffer required all the way around the exterior of the property uh there is a fence required that as long as it's not adjacent to any existing Wetlands or preserved area the fence could be wood rod iron or split rail um there's also a 4- foot option for fencing in the Pud which would require opaque materials sidewalks are required throughout the development and of course Bea and Bermuda grass are permitted while St Augustine is not due to its water usage there are access points shown down on County Road 48 and and up on County Road 33 those are required to be Boulevard type roadways which I know you're familiar with the boulevard but for the benefit of those listening um the boulevard is a wider entrance with an 8 foot landscape section in the middle which allows for emergency vehicles to get through signage is a decorative entryway feature on of at least 5T at each access point on the North and South um there is a recre requirement of 1.3 Acres that's reserved for things such as swimming pool playground dog parks gazebos Etc um there is also a phasing or expiration clause which is in all of our puds now that require substantial commencement within uh 48 months or four years or the property would then be treated as an re1 zoning District which is one unit per one acre per unit excuse me it has to have one acre to have one unit um the entire development would be on City Water and Wastewater uh Lake County Public Works had some significant comments for County Road 48 and 33 including left and right turn Lanes at the project entrances accommodation for the West Lake Trail which is planned for along the County Road 48 Frontage additional rideway uh detailed surveys to verify property lines Etc and mostly the same on 33 additional RightWay for a collector roadway to include drainage and left and right turn R Lanes Haywood Worm Farm Road over here would have um would become a city maintained roadway with additional rideway and um beyond that uh unless there are any questions Mr Mike Ranken of land Planning Group in Mount Dora is here to answer any other questions you may have I have a couple for you down the present zoning in the county is a yes sir that is correct and I believe that density is one unit to five or one unit to five acres yes sir that's my understanding that is correct the present zoning the county this whole development could house 15 units and they're proposing 283 m versus the County's 15 yes sir that's correct so the county the county is 1 to5 and they're proposing here to have 3 67 units per acre again back on to 48 and to 33 both two lane roads yes sir both would take you to intersections of 33 and 27 which add intersections always backed up on 33 or on 48 it would take you down to 48 and 33 which is obviously another intersection that majorly out of compliance so I think this Commission in the last six months have approved on this section of 48 over 500 units in the last 6 months this would be another 238 units on the same stretch of road that's bottlenecked from 48 and 27 down to 48 and 33 over this one mile stretch okay one that's correct yes sir does the applicant have anything to say good evening mayor members of the commission and City staff and guest for the record Michael Rank and managing member of land Planning Group as this is the first hearing the public hearing um and transmittal I will yield my comments uh for the second reading thank you commission comments any other comments from the Commissioners I do I have one more for Dan just for the record yes sir our Planning Commission voted how on the subdivision uh they actually yes sir thank you for the question um Planning Commission voted to uh deny by a vote of four to two four votes to deny two to approve and the reasoning was do you know Dan mostly had to do with uh the concern over the roads and the width current width of the roads um for next hearing I can go back and get the minutes and double check that to make sure we didn't miss any comments in there but and listen to the meeting as well but mainly had to do with roadways okay yes I I just want to follow up again another subdivision on the same stretch this road that's absolutely just beyond bad our Planning Commission even recognized we don't need any more traffic on this road um the density I think is out of control pushing four units an acre for this two-lane road where the County you could only have one one unit to five acres so 15 units developed in the county 283 they proposing here I would like to see us this just deny the annexation we don't even need to move this to the state level just not the an annexation is be done with this tonight any other commissioner comments before we move to public comments so Dan uh this uh if this was just residential com in the city how many units would they get if it was could you repeat the question it was just residential completely residential you take if you took out you know add about 18 more units um to that if it was six I believe it was six acres on the South Side probably add about 18 18 to 19 more units something like that um the unit count can vary because of the future land use and Zoning so um I think it came in originally at a much higher density and staff wrestled around with the applicant a little bit and encourage them to lower that so this is so this is the this is the reduced density from the original application yes believe it's around 3.6 to 3.7 right now as it sits yeah I'm I'm getting 3.67 [Music] again I think you know we we have a Planning Commission for a reason and if they see issues with the traffic I really think we should take that in consideration and just not even move forward with the annexation on this any other commissioner comments public comments on these items seeing none all right uh 6b2 um we will either need a motion or to submit or not submit I'll move to submit it second we have a a motion in a second okay roll call commissioner Peterson yes commissioner Barry yes commissioner conell no commissioner bur yes mayor reesman yes these ordinances will lay over to our next meeting in March 24th thank you all right we have no 6C no non- routine items we have none none seven informational reports none eight City attorney items yes sir briefly um so as the commission may recall the city is currently under contract to sell a parcel across the street from the airport to Blue Rock we've had a couple of uh variations of um agreement extensions and things come come before the commission so we're almost at the Finish Line we are scheduled to close Wednesday uh however uh there are some recording issues that we might not have sorted out before Wednesday um and so with that it's more of a request I guess than a comment that if the commission would give us approval to extend until the end of January to allow us to sort everything out just to get you know we would hope to close before then but that would give us a little more flexibility to make sure we get everything recorded before the closing that needs to be recorded um so that's that's basically it everything seems to be on track and uh ready to go we just need a little bit more time flexibility and this is the last time I'd see you guys before uh the 15th rolls around so um if you would be agreeable to that then I would appreciate a motion and a vote of approval if not I understand um but that's that's basically the request I'll make a motion to extend the closing date to January 31st 2025 yes sir I said we have a motion on the floor and a second on extending to the January 31st roll call commissioner Barry yes commissioner conell yes commissioner bur yes commissioner Peterson yes mayor re yes thank you all uh no more comments for me this evening I look forward to seeing you out the next meeting thank you uh city manager items no matters for you this evening all right thank you uh roll call commissioner canell no commissioner bur no commissioner Peterson nothing tonight commission Barry nothing tonight mayor re a couple things um Dustin Boise is my appointee for the public Arts Advisory board he serves as an associate professor of Studio Arts at Beacon College I think he'll be a great uh addition to that board um just a couple of announcements uh the MLK parade is this coming Saturday at 11:00 a.m. followed by soulfest at noon this coming Thursday or the 23rd is the chamber sunrise breakfast and then hopefully all of you all can make out make it out to opening night at the trop the melon patch theater has their opening night on January 24th and then I had the pleasure of attending and speaking at the lebur firefighter pinning ceremony and I just want to say welcome to all of our new firefighters and congratulations to all of our promotions and then last week was uh national law enforcement day so I just want to say thank you to all of our lebg police officers and with that I'll have a motion to adjourn so Mo meeting adjourned 6:30 I got it on the second one