We'll call the Monday, November 24th city commission meeting to order. If you would please stand for the invocation and the pledge. >> Dear heavenly father, we come to you this evening. We ask that you give us wisdom to make the best decisions for the city of Leburg in your precious name. Amen. >> Amen.
>> Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Uh we have no proclamations
this evening. We do have one presentation, a special magistrate update by Miss Candy Harper. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, commissioners, staff was asked to make a brief presentation um
about the difference between a special magistrate and a planning commission. Thank you. So, a planning commission is made up of appointed citizens. They're appointed by this elected body. Um, and a special
magistrate is a professionally trained and qualified individual who's hired by the city for the same purposes as you would have a planning commission. That is to be responsible for the conduct of public meetings regarding land use and zoning decisions.
The planning commission ensures community representation. They are members of the community. They provide transparency and public trust and they provide checks and balances. However, there could be a potential for
inconsistencies in decision making and perceived political influence as well as a lack of training and education. A special magistrate has been um seen as a more efficient uh way to provide more expertise and
provide consistency in decision making and provide legal clarity. However, the public may perceive that they have less involvement and there may be a perception of lack of accountability. Uh Mr. Miller prepared um this
presentation for you should you wish to have further detail and I'm here for questions if you have any. >> Once you hit the pros and cons list that's really the heartbeat and you know just and Candy touched on real quick. So I think about a month ago
you the commission asked that to look into me. So, you know, pros in keeping the the the the planning commission was just the community representation, um local people involved, uh that that that process seems to have a little bit
more transparency, public trust that's supposed to do and checks and balances, the cons just those type of the things up there. I mean, probably the biggest cons just some of the emotional things that come along uh with people doing it. And uh I think there's uh when your LPA
is volunteers, you you you have more a little bit more emotion that leads you away from potential legal matters that in this quasi judicial process that come to you. And then if you hit the slide and then if you go special magistrate, a little bit more efficiency, um less
emotion, um more legal clarity, but then the opposite is is is the the the the opposite is we'll point out the cost. Um and then kind of just the opposite of what your your local folks do. Um, so you know, even though I
don't think there is a bias or lack of accountability or certainly not less public involvement because that's statutory, um, I think I think in the age here is there those things are certainly seen as why you would have a
special magistrate. So really that's the heartbeat of our presentation and look for your direction at this stage. You know, we would encourage the commission to give staff clear direction on which way you want to go. um if you want to go to the special magistrate, you know, perhaps a motion um going that way um or
or vice versa, I would ask that you put the motion in the affirmative just because it it's a lot easier to to to move that way. So you don't vote yes for a no. So if you would, you know, to make a motion to move forward with the
special magistrate um and then vote that way so we have clear direction after tonight on what to do with this topic. >> Thank you, Miss Harper, and thank you, Al. Any comments or motions from the commission?
>> Ju just a few comments. I am the commissioner that asked for this to be put on the agenda. Um, for those who don't know, I'm I I'm a commercial realtor in my day job. Uh I have been in front of the special magistrate in Sumpter County on a couple occasions and
that's when it really got my attention um that I thought it was something to consider. Um some of the things that I think have concerned citizens um is well first of all it really functions just like the PNZ commission um that they are
just making a recommendation there. It is not a binding decision uh on the on the city commission. So, I want to be sure the everybody's clear on that. Um, the community still has input. Uh, I've had people, you know, complain to me that this, you know, blocks out community input. Uh, once again, it's
just like the PNZ commission. Uh, citizens can attend. Uh, they have a right to speak. Uh, it is quasi judicial. They will be sworn in, so it is a little bit more formal. Um, let's see. Um, really, that's really about all I can
add to it. Um, I think it's uh not that this makes it right, but it is a it is a trend. Um, Wild uh Futland Park just approved it. Wildwood has been doing it for years. U there's some other cities looking at it right now, but uh I'm
open-minded too, but uh and you know, I'll support whatever the commission wants to do. >> I I I think it's important that we keep our planning commission. Um I think they do an outstanding job. Um, I think they look at each individual case. I I I have not found or at least in my opinion that
they have any type of bias from one development to another. I think they really put the time and effort in. I think it it helps keep the community involved. Uh, they feel like they have a better handle of of what's being approved or disapproved in the city. The the cost of the special magistrate um
after speaking with city manager this morning is somewhere between $50 to $100,000 a year. uh are we really going to spend $50 or $100,000 a year of taxpayer money on special magistrate when we have a plan and zoning board is basically volunteering their time because they want to be involved? Uh
just it just doesn't just doesn't seem like the right thing to do to me. >> I'd like to make my comments, please. I think that um I agree with Jay on that one and I think that if we lose our residents that have been here for long long time, we'll lose a wealth of
information that would be very supportive in decision making for things that come to the city. Um I think the planning and zoning has done a great job as leading us. There has been some back and forth of maybe questions afterwards with one decision to another, but um I
think the important part of making Leburg Leburg is to include our community in our decision-m process. And the more we do it and encourage it, I think we'll be a better city. >> Any other comments?
I'll just go ahead and make a motion that uh we approve moving forward with the magistrate. >> So, we have a motion on the floor. Do we have a second? >> Second. >> We have a second on the floor. Any
public comments? >> I have a question. >> You can you'll have to state your name and address for the record. Ma'am, >> Barbara Rupert, 31810 Harris Road in Tavaris. Just a question and that is whether or not the magistrate needs to
be from the immediate area or can they be from anywhere else. Do they live here? Do they have actual community feelings and belongingness? That's my question. >> Yeah, that would just that would be up to the the body what the legislative body wants.
>> So the answer is no. They don't have to be they could be from anywhere, live anywhere and have nothing to do with this community theoretically. >> Correct. >> Correct. Well, my comment is that I don't believe that's correct. I I agree with what the
two commissioners just recently said that the community, the local community needs a say, needs to feel like like everyone has a say and belongs and um I think taking that away is very detrimental to the area.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Seeing no more public comments, we'll close public comments. Any further discussion from the commission? No, I'm just going to reiterate what we already said. I think it's important that the the citizens have a an input in our local boards. Um
I I don't think it's money well spent to spend $50 or $100,000 a year to hire a special magistrate when we have our citizens willing to step up and and fill those roles. I think they've done an admirable job in doing that. Um, and I
just think it's been we've had the plan of zoning board forever. I I just don't see the need to change. If it's not broke, don't fix it. >> Just my last comment is I I do have friends uh on the PNZ commission, so I don't take this lightly and I don't want
them to feel disrespected by this. I just thought this might be an effort to it is change uh you know, something going forward, but I'm fine. >> One more question, please. this magistrate um officer would be in charge of planning
and zoning as well as >> any other info I mean what else would that involve for decision- making just >> just >> well I don't like I don't like the qu the way you phrase the question in charge so >> well making a decision >> the special magistrate the special
magistrate would serve as what we statutoily call a planning and zoning commission a local planning agency. Okay. >> So, a local planning agency is an agency that reviews planning and zoning matters. >> Uh, land use cases, PUDS,
comprehensive plan changes, all the things that the planning and zoning department does that then needs the requirements of a a local planning agency. Local planning agencies are then filled two ways. through a planning and zoning board, a body appointed by the
elected board over that body or a special magistrate. So essentially in this case, we're talking about a seven member LPA that's appointed by you or a special magistrate, one person who would
who would preside over planning and zoning matters. >> And where would that put the planning and zoning department far as their roles and not affect the planning and zoning department's day-to-day operations. >> Any other comments from the commission?
>> Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Conell, >> no. >> Commissioner Bur, >> no. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> no. Mayor Reeseman, >> no. >> Moving along to public comments. This section is reserved for members of the public to bring up matters of concern or
opportunities for praise. Please note that issues raised during this time will not be discussed in detail during the current meeting. They will either be referred to the appropriate staff or scheduled for consideration at a future city commission meeting. Each speaker is allocated three minutes to provide their comments. Kindly adhere to this time limit to ensure equal opportunity for
all participants and to support the efficient conduct of the meeting. Thank you. Are there any public comments for any items on the agenda that are that are not pertaining to any items on the agenda? Any no public comments? Yes, sir. Any others? All right. Just state your name and
address for the record, sir. Um, >> I'm Bill Leech and I live at 1018 Monterey Drive here in Leburg. And I wanted to talk to you about salt. I have here a one pound iodized sea salt container
that my daughter purchased for me in Orlando. It's also happens to be a product of Israel. Interesting. It it is iodized because iodine is absolutely essential for the thyroxine which is a hormone produced by your
thyroid gland right here. Without it, you don't function. And if it's low, you get a big swelling in your neck called goer. and it's not all it's not found in some areas. So they decided the best way to handle it
just put it in the salt and that way everybody got it. According to um AI sea salt contains enough fluoride to be therapeutic. So if you're using sea salt as a table
salt you're getting your fluoride that you need. There's no need for the city to put fluoride in the city water. And if you don't want fluoride, you just don't buy sea salt. Uh although that's probably a good idea, I think,
especially if you have small children. One more thing, why does why does the fluoride actually work? Because the calcium that's in your teeth here is a crystal. And the fluoride is a very
small molecule that fits in the crystal lattice and makes it stiff. Is there anything else that works that way? Actually, there is. If you have cast iron, that is crystallized iron. If
you take cast iron, melt it, and mix it with carbon, and then let it cool, you have steel. And that's basically what the fluoride does in your teeth. That's all I have to say.
>> Thank you, Mr. Leech. Any other public comments? Seeing none, we'll close public comments. We'll move to the consent agenda. Routine items are placed on the consent agenda to expedite the meeting. If the commission or staff wish to discuss any item, the procedure is as follows. One, pull the items from the consent agenda. Two, vote on the
remaining items with one roll call vote. Three, discuss each item and vote by roll call. Are there any items the commission would like to pull this evening? 5C5. >> Uh I would like to pull 5C2 just for the library appointment. Any other items
this evening? Could I get a motion to approve the remaining consent agenda? >> So moved. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry? >> Yes.
>> Commissioner Connell? >> Yes. >> Mayor Reeseman? >> Yes. Would someone please introduce to be read by title 5C2 please? >> I'll introduce item 5C2 to be read by title only please. >> Thank you sir. >> Resolution of the city commission of the
city of Leburg, Florida appointing one member to the library advisory board to a 5-year term ending September 30th, 2030 and providing an effective date. >> Motion to approve. Second. >> We have a motion and a second.
discussion. >> We need to appoint >> We have uh we have one position, two people. >> Yeah, we have correct. We have looks like Mr. Beachch and Miss Susan Feder, but I think Miss Susan Federer is >> she's an alternative. She's an alternative >> on the county board. >> Yeah.
>> On the county board. So, >> so I'd like to make a motion to uh nominate Mr. Beach. >> We have a motion on second. We have a motion on the floor and a second for the nomination of Mr. Beach to the library board. Any further comments? Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call.
>> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Connell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Mayor Reese, >> yes. Would someone please introduce a 5C5? I'll introduce as be read by title only, please. Resolution
of the city commission of the city of Leburg, Florida, authorizing the mayor and city clerk to execute a first food service concier agreement with Limy's ICE LLC for space at 305 West Main Street and providing an effective date.
>> Move for approval. >> Second. >> Have a motion and a second. Discussion. >> I'm the one who pulled this. My only question or well my my only issue is I would like for us to amend it to really just a five-year lease that basically expires on its own maturity or at least
put a clause like we have in year 10 where it is city and tenant may agree to extend. So right now it's five-year lease tenant option to extend five years and then year 10 it's tenant and city. So I'd like to be I just want to have the right of review at five years is my point. So, if I'm not mistaken, I think
I think that's I would be okay with that. And I think we have a 90-day out clause by either party. >> And I looked for that and I've read it as if it was in default. Um, >> yeah, that's correct. >> Is it in default? Okay. >> So, I mean, I guess my point is I'd like to just make it Well, I'll go either
way. I mean, I guess if we just mirrored the 10ear option, which basically city and um tenant, I'm I'm fine with that. I just feel like they're going to be using the sidewalks. If there's issues, we should have just a chance to get out if needed. I hope not. I think it's good for downtown. >> Yeah. >> Any other further?
>> Just ask any comment from Grant on that? Uh a legal opinion? >> No, I I think that however you guys want to do that's fine. Um I do agree as far as that there wasn't like a 90day out necessarily within the agreement. So I think that there would need to be some cause or some basis to terminate the
agreement. So if you wanted to switch it to a situ a scenario where it was basically five years and then after five years it's a mutual agreement moving forward. I don't have any issue with that. >> And that would be my motion. I can restate if needed.
>> Um so so my motion would be at the end of year five that the agreement requires cons uh an agreement by the city and tenant to extend another five years >> which is consistent with the the lease agreement in year 10. So, we have a motion on the floor. >> Second.
>> Any further discussion? >> Any public comments? Seeing none, roll call. >> Commissioner Barry, >> yes. >> Commissioner Conell, >> yes. >> Commissioner Bur, >> yes. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. >> Mayor Reese, >> yes. Public hearings and non-reine
items. During public hearings and non-reine items, the commission requests that those in attendance respect the process and maintain order. As such, in accordance with Robert's rules of order, please refrain from speaking out, cheering, or applauding during these proceedings. Your cooperation helps ensure a fair and respectful hearing. I would ask that our city attorney would
swear in anyone speaking this evening. >> Sir, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Anybody here who is present to speak on item 63, which is the Legacy Commerce SPUD resoning, or 6A4, which is the Leburg Lakefront PUD resoning. If you would
please stand and raise your right hand so we can swear you in. Do you swear or affirm that all testimony you'll give tonight will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> All right. Thank you. All right. They're good. Mr. Mayor, someone please
introduce 61. >> I'll ask be read by title only. 6A1, an ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, annexing certain real property consisting of approximately 7.3 plus minus acres being generally located west
of US Highway 27 and north of University Avenue, lying in section 24, Township 20 South, range 24 East, Lake County, Florida. Provided that said property so annex shall be liable for its proportionate share of the existing and future indebtedness of said city.
providing that such annex property shall be subject to all laws and ordinances of said city as if all such territory had been a part of the city of Leburg at the time of passage and approval of said laws and ordinances providing that such annex territory shall be placed in city
commission district 3 and providing an effective date 62 an ordinance amending the future land use map of the comprehensive plan of the city of Leburg changing the future land use map designation of certain property contain
containing 7.3 plus minus acres from Lake County urban low to city leburg general commercial for property journey located west of US 20 highway 27 and north of University Avenue lying in section 24 township 20 south range 24
east lake county Florida and providing an effective date 63 an ordinance of the city of Leburg changing the zoning on approximately 7.3 plus minus acres from Lake County Agricultural to City of Leburg Spud
small plan unit development to allow for 50,200 square ft of multi-use office warehouse buildings for property generally located west of US Highway 27 and north of University Avenue lying in
section 24 Township 20 South Range 24 East Lake County, Florida, and providing an effective date. >> Thank you, Andy. Welcome. >> Get a motion for approval. Move for approval. >> Well, just a question. It says >> we move for approval, then table it.
>> Okay. Thank you. I know I questioned that earlier. So, we have a motion and we have a second by Miss Commissioner Barry. >> Did we You did second. Okay. Um the applicant has requested a continuence to December 8th. So, if we could get a motion stating that >> I'd like to uh make a motion to move all
three items to uh December the 8th, 2025 here in the chamber. >> Thank you. 5:30 >> 5:30 p.m. >> 5:30. >> All right. So, we have a motion. >> Second. >> We have a second from >> Second. >> Thank you. Any further discussion?
>> Roll call. >> Commissioner Conell. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Bur? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Peterson? >> Yes. >> Commissioner Barry? >> Yes. Mayor Reeseman? >> Yes. Would someone please introduce 6 A4, please?
I'll introduce Nasp read by title only. An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, changing the zoning on approximately 20.36 plus minus acres from City of Leburg PUD planned unit development and C3 Highway commercial to
City of Leburg PUD Planned Unit development to allow for a mixeduse development for property generally located north of US Highway 441 and east of Pimble Road lying in section 20, Township 19 South, range 25 East, Lake County, Florida, and provid iding an
effective date. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second on the floor. Uh Miss Candy. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Commissioners, this project was before you some time
ago and it was um glam glam camping and RV. It's come back now as a PUB uh revision. Um future land use is in place. It's been annexed. Um
it's just the PUD conditions of approval that are changing. So it's going from the glam camping and RV and that type of use into apartments. Um this project will be subject to a mitigation agreement to approve adequate
stations within the school system. Uh the applicant will have to provide adequate student stations or adequate uh stations must must exist within the system for the project to move forward. Um staff is in constant communication with
with Lake County staff, particularly public works regarding transportation as well as Florida Department of Transportation. I believe there was some question about whether or not the trail would be affected by this development. It will
not. It lies within the Duke Power Easement and no one has permission to be inside the Duke Power Easement. So that this application will not affect the trail system for Lake County. Um if you have any other questions, Mike
Ranken is here, I believe, to answer some questions. It is 278 multif family units, apartments. It's going to be commercial. Um, four floors is the maximum height and Mike can answer any questions you might have.
>> Before we move to Mike, any questions for Miss Candy from the commission? Seeing none, Mr. Ranking. >> Thank you, Miss Candy. >> Mayor, members of the commission, staff, and audience. Uh for the record, Mike Rankin, owner of Land Planning Group,
2050 Classic Avenue in Tavaris. And before I get started, happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. So, this is Leburg Lakefront as you have seen. Uh this is a request to reszone to a PUD.
The owner of the property is Leburg Lakefront RV Park LLC. And I want to make it very clear out of the gate, this has nothing to do with RVs. This is just the name of the company that owns the property. And this is uh a PUB that I
will describe here that uh is also in your packet. So no RVs, no RV park. Even though the owner is Leburg Lakefront RV Park LLC, it's going to be a PUD for a lakefront development. Also with me
tonight is Major Stacy with CFB INC. Uh so this is a PUD. We're asking for 278 units, 12,000 square ft of commercial use to the front of the property there on the other side of the
Duke uh easement. There will be a 2800 foot clubhouse, a leasing office, boat house, and marina. Uh there are 14 permitted uses on page two of the PUD that we are good with. I
want to make sure that we know that a Dollar General, a mattress factory, or a resale shop is not on that list. So we are uh happy to make sure that's not on the list. The development standards uh
are C3 highway commercial, 35% of open space with a total of 588 stalls, 556 surface car park, 24 garage stalls, eight trailer stalls, which makes 2.08
spaces to the unit. The architectural standards in dark sky per city code 25360. We have buffers of 25 feet 30 ft in addition to 6ft privacy fence. Uh we will utilize all city utilities
including natural gas and we are engineering as per city code and St. John's river water management transportation as per city, county and state codes. Uh, and then as Candy mentioned, Lake County September 2018
parks and trail master plan. Uh, the trail is within the Duke easement. I do have maps if you would like to see that where the the trail is in the easement. Be more than happy to pass those out if you need them. If not, I'll just hold
them here. Uh, couple of things that uh I do want to point out. I know there's a lot of people want to talk, so I will be as brief as possible and respectfully ask to uh respond to any comments. Uh we want to make sure this
is 20.36 acres, not 29 acres. And there's some concern of uh this project being highly harmful to this lake without strict precautions. One advantage to living in the area is I get the information on there as well. Uh and
that's true. If if it's not built appropriately and we follow St. John's rules and regulations, uh the environmental report, the traffic and the city and the county, uh that's absolutely correct. It could be harmful, but it's not because we are going to
follow all the conditions to assure that's not the case. uh and protecting the fragile water body and its wildlife, including trees. We're of the opinion that we will aid in the development of some of the man-made canals and the canals that are there
that uh wolffully need to be cleaned and dredged. Um 441 will be protected against flooding for this property because we're not going to build in the flood plane. What measures taken to prevent neighbor properties in their access from being flooded or blocked by
sand or silt? simple. We can't cause a hardship on our contiguous property owners. Th those are my comments. Again, I'll yield additional comments or be happy to answer any questions after these good folks uh weigh in with their
comments. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Ranken. Any questions for Mr. Ranken before we open to public comments? >> See? Yep. Go ahead, sir. >> Mike, just just one question. Um yeah, I see buildings one, two, and three are
fourstory, and I see buildings four and five are threetory. >> Am I making sense? >> That is correct. >> Okay. Um >> I'm I'm sorry. Can you pull that one up? >> It should be the fourth slide
to the maps. Yeah, the answer is yes. there will be uh not to exceed four stories and with those three buildings uh located to where they'll have a view of the of the lake if you would
>> and the basis of my question was just looking at building five you know I've taken some complaints from the residents to the west yeah you I don't I don't know if there's a solution you know with more trees or I don't I'm sure the developer doesn't want to go twotory but I mean other than that I'm actually okay
with it. I just I bring that up for discussion. >> Good, good points. We've spent a lot of time on this project. Uh we have convinced the owners to patiently wait till we bring a project that we think could be uh much of an improvement from
the RV park that was being proposed there at one time. U and you can see there's 35 spa 35% of open space. So we have in excess of open space. We were mindful of the contiguous property owners to the west. Uh you'll see that
uh building five is positioned for view of the lake, but yet you you don't see anything but a buffering to that property. And then the gentleman that lives out to the lake, we would be putting a fence up in that area as well. We discussed that at planning and zoning
and then we brought it up on the first read at city commission meeting. and the gentleman there with with the nice house on the lake. He was okay with the RV park is my understanding. Is he okay with this? And >> I I can't speak on behalf of that, but at the time I thought he was content at
the time. >> Okay. >> Um >> that was not a fair question. I'm sorry. >> So the RV park was approved how long ago? Two two years maybe. >> 2023 I think it was >> uh 22 or so. Candy, Dan, and I worked on that project. Um, it was respectfully
with a weaker property owner that just didn't have the horsepower to put that project together. I think in my opinion, they were trying to get it entitled to flip it. These guys came along, bought the property, and spent some time to look at a multi- uh use development
commercial in the front. You take a run from the the mall area in the downtown, shorter racetrack, you got a little bit of void when it comes to eeries in the area. So, we see the opportunity there. And we also wanted to be mindful that we didn't uh cause issue with the road to
the uh west there. You can see where our ingress egress with a roundabout that Mr. Miller really wanted to have. So, we put that in as well. One question, Mr. Ranken, is on Pemble Road, did I hear it correct? It's going to be a 4ft BM 6oot wall
>> at the planning and zoning meeting. >> I believe that is accurate. Yes, sir. 4 foot. Okay. All right. Any other questions for Mr. Rankin? >> On Pemble Road. >> Yeah, I'm on >> Well, and that'll
>> the entire road. >> The entire road and then it if I remember the it goes there's like a red line there. It goes from the highway all the way back and then back towards the lake, I'm assuming. So, >> yeah. Uh I I know it's in your packet. I apologize. It might be a next page or
two. So, I've gone through this in my sleep. You think I would know the order of the slides? So, all right. Any other questions for Mr. Ranken? All right. We're going to open it up to public comments. If I would ask that you would form a line up here, uh,
state your name and address for the record, and everyone has three minutes. Are there any public comments on this item? Any public comments on this item? >> Oh, we have comments. >> Okay. I would ask >> if you would please form a line.
>> Hi. >> For everyone. >> My name is Louise Chen. I live at 8010 Treasure Island Road in Leburg and we live along the greatest lake in the world, Lake Griffin. We love it. However, we've been noticing that the last few years it's the lake has been
deteriorating and we have a contact with St. John's who affirms that that is right and that is because of some of the you know because of so many developments around the area. So, I know that Leburg says that they're the lakefront and city. I want to just make sure that we keep our lake as pristine as possible by
taking some measures. I think that we need to look at how we're keeping track of the storm water, the sediment contamination that comes off these construction sites. We're having problems with Silver Lake Point in that um
well, this is one they had a burm there. This was last year after just one inch of rain July uh June 27th, they broke the burm. It just flew down and went down into um CR44 and it went into another adjacent property. So it after
three years it's still not being contained. And then the favorite thing of containing uh this contamination from reaching the lakes is the silk fences and they just don't work with water or when we have storm water. They're not maintained
enough. They're not doing. So we need to look at other options and I would like to request that you have an open meeting to discuss what some of these options can be. Um here's one option that I have here for this one. I think this is going to be a disaster for the lake. It's just
too many buildings. It's got too much impervious service. It's going to be like a cookie sheet. You're just going to have that water just come in and just flow right off and go into the lake and it's going to carry everything with it. And um one thing that you could do now I
measured this out. This has got over 3,000 ft of lake frontage when you have all these these closed inlets in here. Now, one thing that I've been reading up on, been using AI a lot, Lisa got me going on this, is they suggest that you
put in an untouched natural buffer between what you're developing and between the wetlands and the lake. So, I suggest that you put the 50 ft in here, but then of course this will knock out some of the you won't be able to have some of the buildings, but it will help
to keep the lake safer because the wetlands and the lake, this is the number one pollution right now is the construction sediment. So anyway, um I'm just I just think that Leburg
deserves really really good high quality developments. I don't think this is it. I think a smaller amount. This also is going to be 55 ft from the floor all the way up to the um not counting the roof that's going to dominate the whole neighborhood all over the lake. Well,
thank you very much for your time. Hi, Alan Chen, 810 Treasure Island Road, Leburg. Uh, my concern with this PED plan is related to what you don't see in these pretty renderings. As you know, we have been seeing flooding across the R44 Louise mentioned by Silver Lake Point
started in 2022 after clear cutting still going on today. You're also probably aware of the construction just down the road in Morningside, uh, which you also annexed where huge amounts of fill were brought in forming piles 20 ft high plus. graded and solded along CR44.
Most recently, we had that four and a half inch rainfall during that historic event. So, locally four and a half inch. So, despite soding, uh a large amount of sand and still washed across the R44 and into the Silver Lake Springs development across the street, flooding there would
not have occurred if not for these steep man-made hills. So, you can um so uh we don't necessarily trust what developers say. So, um, just wanted to mention that one of the fixes was to add silt fences on the other side of CR44 away from
Morningside. That's kind of presumptuous since it assumes more runoff will cross CR44 future rain events. As we have not had any rain events crossing CR44 prior to those two developments, others can verify that both examples I mentioned highlight the failures of keeping excess
runoff within property borders, which is against St. John's policy even during construction. for today's today's PUD it mentions that a minimum of 35% will be open area given that much of the property is wetlands approximately 35 to 40% that specific requirement is met
however the remaining buildable area will have a very high impervious surface ratio large building complexes and huge parking lots fill much of that property one thing you don't see in the plans is the postdevelopment elevation contour maps today most of the property is quite flat not much higher than lake level
except for the far southwest corner. In other words, how much fill is going to be brought in, raising those monstrosity apartment complexes even higher. The pre-development area's flat terrain, well- draining sandy soil absorbs much of the rainfall with excess unpolluted
runoff flowing to the wetlands or to the lake. With postdevelopment, we don't know if flooding will occur to the neighbors, to the Highway 441, or if excess now polluted runoff goes directly into Lake Griffin or the wetlands. In addition, those detention ponds will be
wet given the proximity to the lake and wetlands uh fill need to be brought in to ensure added capacity. But how many feet? Developers always say they conform to all environmental regulations as we heard today, but we have little confidence in that given your track
record along CR44. So, one request I would like to make for any annexation or PD change is to require mandatory final elevation or contour maps to better understand the potential for damaging runoff before considering a vote. Pretty renderings shouldn't be enough. For
those reasons and further impacts to an impaired, Griffin, I'm asking that you deny this PUD. Thank you. >> Oh, don't start me yet. I got to hand these out. Thank you. >> I apologize. Thank you so much. You mind seeing an email coming in from
me that have these just beautiful little tight pictures and you all will have to share. Do you mind? Thank you. I know you'd love to share. >> Go ahead. >> Start soon. >> Hi, my name is Katherine Wright. I live at 82 Mark Road Leburg, Florida, 34748
Britney Estates. Greetings, mayor and commissioners. I'm here to express my concerns about the proposed development 25-687. This development started as upscale RV park with drainage, but it is now being proposed as a multi- family multi-level
apartments, boat house, docks, restaurants, and other businesses. This will require a lot of parking and will be over 500 spaces as you heard a black top. Where will the water go? From a hard rain or hurricane such as
Milton October 2024, which had an initial estimate cost of $10 million to Lake County per research that I found. How much fill will be needed and how high? Boy, that's a hot topic, right?
As you can see in this picture, because I'm really multi-talented. Clear, cutting, filling, contouring the Leburg lakefront properly will likely increase flood risk for neighboring properties and send storm water pollutants into Lake Griffin unless
precautions are taken prior to construction. These precautions must be added to PUD2-687 prior to final approval. Nobody wants to be flooded out, especially the seniors and veterans along with Highway 441 and
all the people who utilize this highway. This impact will also be negative to Lake Griffin because of all the sediment which can be toxic for its large assortment of wildlife such as birds, manatees, fish, and more. The pictures before you that I've given you show
Highway 441, which is already a challenging road. Pulling out of Britney Estates. To go left first, you have to pull out right, cross over multiple lanes, make a Uturn, and and it's just a hot mess. Anyway, it
can take 45 minutes if there isn't an accident or traffic stop. Adding these adding this development will certainly not be suitable for this area. Can you imagine the additional cars apparently over 500, so like a thousand more cars a day just pulling and out of the
apartment complex, let alone a school bus trying to pull out onto the highway 441. Also, due to rapid growth, how much more can this beautiful way station handle? such as Hurricane Milton 2024. My research shows significant breach
capacity overload resulting in approximately 2 million gallons of sewage overflow into canal and out into Lake Griffin. People from Britney Estates had no clue about that. By the way, I urge you all to please say no. Put a pause on development.
Take a proper assessment. We need to come to together prioritize the well-being of the residents, wildlife, and infrastructure. I thank you for your time. No, I do not like speaking to y'all. Can we just make a great judgment on this?
>> This is really >> Can I ask you one question? Can you your um name and address for the record? >> Catherine Wright at 822 Mark Road, Leburg um inside of Britney Estates. And you may not have found me because I own another house in Lady Lake at 40216
Gator Lake Road. So we we had to deal with Harbor Hills out there, but long story. But thank you. Any other questions? >> No, ma'am. >> No. >> Hi, good evening. Ray Hayden, 35121 Dennis Road, uh in out in the county territory. Uh and that's actually the
point here. Um, all the roads around these various developments are not owned by Leburg and Leburg has no responsibility for those roads outside of these developments. Yet, uh, in our research and recent, uh, discoveries,
it's actually St. John's is doing all in because they're dropping this water on other properties that are located within the county. In fact, 44, county road. Oh, by the way, that's a state road 44 through your city and it's county road
44 out that way. And um but all these areas that are being annexed by Leburg and then developed are done in such a way where the runoff from the property has been unfortunate to the county residents around it that are not uh you
know uh taken into the city of Leburg, nor do we want to be. But the fact of the matter is your actions are causing us environmental, financial, and emotional distress. And that's that's just that's our right in any way, shape, or form.
But over here in this particular area for this specific development, uh I would ask that you boot that down this street. You take a couple of months off on that and bring it back. And check out the size of the parking spaces. I
heard 2.08 08 on uh the the uh number of spaces per unit. Okay. I don't know where you all live, but I know where I lived in South Florida and Broward County and where we live up here, there's not a single neighbor that's got less than more more than two vehicles,
you know, in in their property. So, and you're going to have uh people who are residents there, people who are going to be visiting those residents there, and you've got commercial property out in the front, and people are going to have to be uh parking there as well. All of this has been stated that yeah, it's
it's it's impervious. You're not going to get any water collection in the ground that way. So, you have to do other things about it. I know there's ways to do about it, but you know, and then to solve these problems, but I'm saying with the size of the parking spaces, the number of the parking spaces, the height of the apartments,
you're going to be basically bringing in more problems into the city of Leburg because you've annexed the property into Leburg. And I think a really important note is that, you know, that that there's a a video game called Sim City or something like that where you can create and manage a city. Hopefully, it
does well. But what y'all are doing and doing this stuff and you really, you know, it's reality. It's just facts. You won't be here. I'll be long dead. The great great grandchildren of the people who haven't even been born
yet are going to be paying a price for the mistakes made today. And that's a heavy burden. And I wish that you all just take a little more time, a little more research, make sure it's done right because you're hurting other people who haven't been born yet.
>> Yes, sir. >> Hi, everybody. Uh my name is Shabbaz Chima. Uh for the record, I am that gentleman who lives um right next to this property. The address is 1004 Pemble Road. Uh my only concern is the
uh driveway. I have a long driveway uh which I use to get out of the house every day and I was informed that uh they might be bringing a lot of fill to raise the level of the property and I'm just concerned that during the flooding or during the heavy rainfall uh it may
flood the driveway or bring sand or gravel to my side and may prevent me from uh leaving the house. Basically, that's it. Yeah. Any other comments? Mrs. Hayden, >> Lisa Hayden, 35121, Dennis Road, Leburg.
I think we were all shocked to see how much fill was bought in on County Road 44. And uh Dr. Chima has a point. It's a big concern when you see these mounds of of fill going up next to you that if there is a rainstorm, and we have
significant rainstorms, that that is going to come and inundate your property. And I think that we have to look to really protect the people who live there now, the people at Britney Estates as well as Dr. Chima. And I hope that we can look, you know, we unfortunately, as we've learned, you
know, um over over the years, we can't count on St. John's to do that heavy lifting for us. We have to make sure that the plan makes sense. We have properties at 60 ft that are going to be impacted by whatever kind of fill they bring and to especially support these
multi-story buildings. Thank you so much, Any other public comments? We're going to close public comments and bring it back to the commission for discussion. Any further commission comments or I have a couple. >> Yes, sir. >> Just want to make sure I understood
correctly. The proposed PUB is 278 units on 20 acres. Was that correct, Andy? That reflects the note that I have, Commissioner Canel. >> Okay. So, at 278 units at 20 acres, I
mean, that's that's right at 14 units an acre. Um, I mean, that's that's pretty high density uh community here at 14 units an acre. Um, I I do think threetory, fourtory units
are are pretty excessive for that area also. So with the the the amount of units the density I think is way too high at 14 units an acre. Four stories is is getting pretty high also for around the lake. Um yeah I I just think if if going to move
forward on on a residential development there the density needs to come way down on that which would in turn probably reduce the the the height of the apartment buildings. Also, >> I just want to comment, be sure that the public is clear. We and I appreciate I know Lisa Hayden and I have spoke and
I've told her that I appreciate her efforts with St. John's Water Management District. We rely on them. They're the ones who approve these sites and represent to us. They are self-containing. I know I've made those representations to adjoining land owners and and I know there's some concerns out
on County Road 44, but I do appreciate you staying after St. John's, but I want the public to know we when we sit up here, we do rely on St. John's to make this project to make sure the developer builds this in a manner where it is self-contained. That means it does not run off on other people's property and
does not run off into the lake. And just want to be sure that the public is clear on that. >> Any other commissioner comments? Yes, >> I I have one. Um, so roughly two years ago, we approved
this piece of property to come into the city. And part of that approval process was it was going to be an RV park that was going to attract quote tourists to come to Leburg to spend money to stay
in our glamping RV park, I think is what they referred to it as. It was a supposed to be a very upscale park and uh to have access to Lake Lake Griffin. Uh you know, as was brought up earlier,
we we're the lakefront city and we've got one little boat ramp down at Hurloan Park to try to get on one of the biggest lakes that's here at our lakefront city. And we cannot even get the county interested in building more. We've
already been down that avenue. So, uh, in, you know, I see this as, like I say, two years we're promised one thing and now it's a whole different thing. And I'm not in favor of it. And
that's it. >> Any other commissioner comments? Seeing none, we'll go to roll call on 6 A4. >> Commissioner Burie, >> no. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> yes. Commissioner Barry, >> yes. Commissioner Conell, >> no.
>> Mayor Reeseman, >> yes. We're going to move to first readings of ordinances. Would someone please introduce 6B1? >> I'll introduce as be read by title only. An ordinance of the city of Leburg, Florida, amending chapter 25 of the code
of ordinances to create section 25-165 establishing procedures for request for reasonable accommodation for certified recovery residents and other persons with disabilities. Providing for purpose application review, appeal and
enforcement procedures. Providing for annual reertification. Providing for inclusion in the code ordinances. providing for conflicts, providing for severability, and providing an effective date. >> This is a first reading and we'll lay over to December 8th. I would ask our
city attorney to give us a just us and the public a quick debrief of what this is all about. >> Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh this does seem perhaps a little odd kind of of looking at it in a a vacuum here, but basically um we have all cities and and
local governments in Florida have been required to include procedures to allow accommodations uh for folks who are looking to develop or perhaps open a certified recovery residence within town. And so it's not
something that is specifically contemplated in the city's code as it stands, but the state has told us we need to create a process to allow this to happen. And so that's basically what this is. We're required to pass an
ordinance before the end of the year uh to create this process to u evaluate or allow accommodations for these recovery residences. And so that's all this is is basically trying to satisfy the state's requirement that we have this on the
books before the end of the year. >> I have a question. Do you do we know where the homes will be located? Do we have a choice or >> No, it's it's whoever applies. It's just creating an application process for folks so that they could apply to open
one of these recovery residences with the focus being on substance abuse. And will it be one that was will be obtained with someone living there as well as a overseer of the house or will they all be on their own individually? >> It would be so this would be for certified recovery residences and the
state has a sort of a definition of what a recovery residence is but they also has a a certification process so that I don't remember exactly the agency department of health most likely uh is overseeing that certification process. So they would need to uh demonstrate
that they are compliant with the state's requirements, have the certifications and all of that. Um but as far as that goes, it would be if if you have a certification and uh you own a piece of property and you want to apply then you could apply.
>> Grant will zoning have any effect or does this mean basically they can put it wherever they want? >> Yeah, the idea is an accommodation to any existing regulation. And so it's almost like um if you think about a housing context where someone may need
some type of accommodation gu you know handrails or something in the shower um it's a similar analysis and so you kind of look at it through that that lens and and that's sort of where this is coming from. >> Okay. >> But I thought I read you know the normal
building what am I trying to say? Building permit guidelines and zoning still apply. or is that incorrect? I mean, they couldn't build it just anywhere. It does have to meet >> there. There are some requirements, but again, kind of to the, you know, and and
I'll go back to kind of the apartment complex situation because that's where a lot of these accommodation requests come up frequently. Um, you know, think about, um, you know, maybe you have a restriction that does not allow anyone except the person on the lease to live
in the unit and someone has some kind of disability and they need a a caregiver to live with them or at least visit visit them for some period of time. So, you have a rule that says can't do it, but they have this situation where they have requested an accommodation to that
rule. So it operates and functions the same way. There may be a rule that says you can't do A, B, or C, but they say look at our situation, review this, and then if you want to uh if you don't believe it's a good fit for that area,
you can deny it. You need to send written uh reasons and and a basis for that denial, though. Uh but but again that's sort of the the operation is there's a rule they're looking for and
relaxing of that rule basically and and this state mandate kind of creates the structure for us to review those under a more relaxed standard I guess. >> Did you say apartment? Did you say apartment or home? I thought it was a recovery home.
>> Yeah. I was just using apartments as an example of where you see these accommodation requests a lot of times. Yes, ma'am. >> Any other public comments on this item? This item will lay over. Was there a public comment? Sorry. December 8th. Uh moving along to non-rated items. We have
noneformational reports. City attorney. >> Uh yeah, just just one report this evening. Um we late this afternoon. Um I guess I'll back up. Last week, we had our hearing on the injunction for the shuffleboard lawsuit uh late this
afternoon. I just got the order sent in denying the request for temporary injunction. So, there is no temporary injunction at this point. Uh the next action in our case would be January 28th when we have our motion to dismiss hearing. So, at this point, the request,
the exparte request was denied and then the request uh during the hearing was denied as well. said there is no injunction at this point. Um, and I guess based on the last meeting, the decision was to go ahead and execute and
record the warranty deed. So, we've got that uh this evening uh ready to move forward on that. Uh any questions on that issue? Um, and then I would just add also, I think we went over this last time, but the, uh, Venice at Lake
Harris, that special magistrate process is now officially done. Uh, they've withdrawn the the challenge there. Uh, so that one's wrapped up now. So, this is really the only one we've got floating out there. And that's all I've got other than that. I hope everyone has
a wonderful Thanksgiving. Uh, and look forward to seeing you guys on the other side. >> Thank you. >> City Manager. >> Yeah. Uh, I don't have any matters. Uh, wish every again wish everybody happy Thanksgiving. Um, I will be out of town um probably within the next hour or so.
We're driving up to Maryland to see my mom. She's been hitting me all day. She's so excited. It's like it like when you're I guess when you're my mom's 86 and she will never she every you when you meet her she'll say, "Hi, I'm Judy Miner. I'm 86." And so when you get when
you get to that age, you know, she's like a kid on Christmas. My boys come home. So, we're excited to go. Anyway, I wish everybody happy uh Thanksgiving. Um Rob will be here. I will be back on Tuesday. Um contrary, I will be available by phone the whole time. So, I
will have 12 hours in the next 12 hours and probably 12 hours on Sunday. I'll be very available if you need me. So, um all the best to everybody and h happy Thanksgiving. >> Thank you, sir. Uh roll call. >> Commission Commission. >> No,
>> Commissioner Bur. Yeah, just one question. You said uh because of the way we had voted at the last meeting with regard to the warranty deed that it will be available. So we will how does that happen or what what is it we're going to >> the deed's here to for execution.
>> So it's just ready for >> sign it and record it. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> Commissioner Peterson, >> I just want to say happy Thanksgiving everybody and if you're traveling, be safe. Commissioner Barry, um, just want to wish everyone a happy holidays, happy
Thanksgiving, and enjoy your family. >> Mayor Lason, >> I just want to let you know hopefully everyone's going to the Leburg Chamber Gala on December 4th. Uh, Christmas festivities downtown and the parade on the 6th, light up Leburg and the boat parade on the 7th, and uh, I wish you
all a happy Thanksgiving and everyone uh, watching us and in the audience. So with that, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Second. We have meeting a journ.